The Seahawks have drafted Christine Michael, running back out of Texas A&M, with the #62 pick. They drafted Penn State defensive tackle Jordan Hill at #87.
Right, change of plan. Cover it Live have stopped running their free service. Who knew? It was only allowing 50 people into the room instead of the thousands we’ve had the last two years. I checked the cost and it’s not cheap. So I’m going to have to cancel that portion of the LIVE BLOG. Instead I’ll update the picks on here with commentary. Please use the comments section for reaction. Not ideal.
#33 Jacksonville Jaguars select Jonathan Cyprien (S, Florida International)
The Jaguars start things off with a functional safety. This is a pure Gus Bradley pick. And a smart one. Grade: B
Tennessee trades up to #34, San Francisco moves down to #40
#34 Tennessee Titans select Justin Hunter (WR, Tennessee)
The Titans move up to get a receiver for Jake Locker. Hunter is inconsistent with some upside. Can you rely on him? Grade: B-
#35 Philadelphia Eagles select Zach Ertz (TE, Stanford)
This is great value for the Eagles. Chip Kelly knows all about Ertz. Grade: A
**Contract news** Following on from the Packers re-signing Aaron Rodgers earlier today, reports are emerging that Cincinnati has agreed terms with tackle Andre Smith.
#36 Detroit Lions select Darius Slay (CB, Mississippi State)
They needed a corner and had the pick of the bunch. Slay is fast but much less physical than Johnthan Banks. I prefer Blidi Wreh-Wilson. Grade: C+
#37 Cincinnati Bengals select Gio Bernard (RB, North Carolina)
I like Bernard. They picked him over Eddie Lacy and Jonathan Franklin. Grade: B-
San Diego trades up to #38, Arizona moves down to #45
#38 San Diego Chargers select Manti Te’o (LB, Notre Dame)
So Te’o finally leaves the board. San Diego trades up to get him, while only spending a 4th rounder to make the move. It’s a nice fit for their defense. Grade: B
#39 New York Jets select Geno Smith (QB, West Virginia)
There you go. The Jets are killing the draft. Dee Milliner, Sheldon Richardson and Geno Smith. Superb. Grade: A+
#40 San Francisco 49ers select Tank Carradine (DE, Florida State)
If he’s healthy, this is a dangerous pick. Very low gamble at #40. Adds another dimension to the pass rush for the Niners. They turned Alex Smith into a Tank. Grade: A
#41 Buffalo Bills select Robert Woods (WR, USC)
Great pick for the Bills. Woods is incredible value here. They needed to get a weapon for E.J. Manuel. Grade: A+
#42 Oakland Raiders select Menelik Watson (T, Florida State)
This guy is from England, so all power to him. But he was just announced as ‘Men Lick, Washington’. Grade: B-
#43 Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Johnthan Banks (CB, Mississippi State)
Do the Buccs realise they also have to field an offense, plus a defensive line? It’s all going on the secondary. Grade: C-
Players still available: Eddie Lacy, Arthur Brown, Keenan Allen, Margus Hunt, Matt Barkley, Jamar Taylor, Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Terron Armstead, Khaseem Greene, Jesse Williams, Christine Michael.
#44 Carolina Panthers select Kawann Short (DT, Purdue)
Wow. They had a need at tackle, but they picked up Star Lotulelei yesterday. I always liked Short, but struggled to find a fit. His first NFL game? Vs Seattle. Grade: B-
#45 Arizona Cardinals select Kevin Minter (LB, LSU)
He’s not a pass rusher but this is a solid pick here. Ten more players to go before Seattle is on the clock. Grade: B-
#46 Buffalo Bills select Kiko Alonso (LB, Oregon)
I know some people love this guy, but I’m not sold here. For me there were better players available like Arthur Brown. Grade: D+
#47 Dallas Cowboys select Gavin Escobar (TE, San Diego State)
Solid pick-up for the Cowboys. They’re relying on Monte Kiffin to work with what he has. Grade: B+
Eight picks to go. Arthur Brown, Khaseem Greene, Sio Moore all still available if Seattle wants to go linebacker. Terron Armstead is still there. Jesse Williams is still there. Lot’s of talent for the #56 pick.
#48 Pittsburgh Steelers select Le’Veon Bell (RB, Michigan State)
Wow. Eddie Lacy’s terrible off-season is having a big impact. Bell is the first power back off the board. Grade: C
#49 New York Giants select Johnathan Hankins (DT, Ohio State)
Big tackle with a sloppy build. Needs to get in better shape to max out his talent. Grade: C+
#50 Chicago Bears select Jon Bostic (LB, Florida)
Another shocker. I had Bostic as a sleeper for the Seahawks and I liked his upside. The shock is the other linebackers who remain on the board. Grade: C+
#51 Washington Redskins select David Amerson (CB, NC State)
Another player off the board I had no interest in for Seattle. Nice size/speed. Awful tape. Grade: D
#52 New England select Jamie Collins (LB, Southern Miss)
What was Kevin Faulk wearing? Good pass rusher but hit and miss tape. Grade: C+
#53 Cincinnati Bengals select Margus Hunt (DE, SMU)
Surprised they didn’t go linebacker here. I like the pick, they have a lot of pass rushing options. If they didn’t have a rank average quarterback they’d be a definite Super Bowl contender. Grade: B+
#54 Miami Dolphins select Jamar Taylor (CB, Boise State)
Good player who was late to the part in terms of hype. The Dolphins needed a corner badly. Grade: B+
San Francisco trades ABOVE THE SEAHAWKS, swaps picks with Green Bay!
In 2010, two teams moved ahead of Seattle to draft running backs. I remember at the time wondering if the Seahawks would’ve taken Ben Tate or Montario Hardesty had the Texans and Browns not moved up. Have the Niners moved above the Seahawks to specifically target a certain player?
#55 San Francisco selects Vance McDonald (TE, Rice)
So, were the Seahawks targeting McDonald? He’s an athletic, joker-stile tight end. But he did not look a natural catcher. The tape was bog standard. Grade: C
THE SEAHAWKS HAVE TRADED THE #55 PICK TO BALTIMORE!!
The Seahawks move the #56 to the Ravens for the #62 pick, the #165 pick (round five) and the #199 pick (round six).
#56 Baltimore Ravens select Arthur Brown (LB, Kansas State)
The Seahawks pass up the chance to take Arthur Brown themselvs, and Baltimore makes another great pick. Every year. Ozzie Newsome. You are the king. Grade: A+
#57 Houston Texas select D.J. Swearinger (S, South Carolina)
Talented safety. Smart choice, emphasising the value late in the second. Grade: B+
Players still available: Eddie Lacy, Keenan Allen, Matt Barkley, Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Terron Armstead, Khaseem Greene, Jesse Williams, Christine Michael.
#58 Denver Broncos select Montee Ball (RB, Wisconsin)
Love this pick. Underrated player. More of a playmaker than you think. Eddie Lacy is sinking big time. Grade: B
#59 New England select Aaron Dobson (WR, Marshall)
The third most productive receiver for Marshall in 2012. Grade: D
#60 Atlanta Falcons select Robert Alford (CB, SE Louisiana)
I think there are better corners available, but a lot of people like this guy. Two corners so far for the Falcons. Grade: C+
#61 Green Bay Packers select Eddie Lacy (RB, Alabama)
Great value for the Packers here. This is no gamble. Grade: A-
SEAHAWKS ARE ON THE CLOCK
#62 Seattle Seahawks select Christine Michael (RB, Texas A&M)
BOOM
(polls)
For the last couple of weeks we narrowed down the options at #56 and considered Quinton Patton, Khaseem Greene and Christine Michael as the three most likely players to target. As it turns out, all three were available. And the Seahawks drafted Michael.
Pete Carroll stock piled running backs at USC. This shouldn’t be a surprise. This will help keep Marshawn Lynch effective, it will maintain a relentless running game and provide some kick-return relief for Percy Harvin.
I’ll have more thoughts on the pick and the choice in round three later, but to get a player of this talent at #62 is another great job by this front office. An impact player.
There’s still some incredible value heading into round three. And with ten picks on day three, maybe the Seahawks do look to move up here?
ROUND THREE
#63 Kansas City select Travis Kelce (TE, Cincinnati)
Character concerns, but athletic and should have a quick impact in KC. Grade: B+
#64 Jacksonville select Dwayne Gratz (CB, Connecticut)
The Jaguars are rebuilding their secondary. I can’t believe Wreh-Wilson is still available. Grade B
#65 Detriot Lions select Larry Warford (G, Kentucky)
Fantastic value here. A home run pick. Grade: A
#66 Oakland Raiders select Sio Moore (LB, Connecticut)
I prefer Khaseem Greene. But I’m not in the Raiders war room. Grade: B-
#67 Philadelphia Eagles select Bennie Logan (DT, LSU)
I’m not a fan of Logan and I’m not sure how he fits into the 3-4. Grade: D
#68 Cleveland Browns select Leon McFadden (CB, San Diego State)
Apparently this is the 2013th draft. Who knew? Grade: C
#69 Arizona Cardinals select Tyrann Mathieu (CB, LSU)
So there we go. Good for him that Patrick Peterson is also in Arizona. He stayed with his family to get away from the trouble in Louisiana. Grade: C
#70 Tennessee Titans select Blidi Wreh-Wilson (CB, Connecticut)
Great pick. He fell. The Titans benefit. Grade: A-
#71 St. Louis Rams select T.J. McDonald (S, USC)
The Rams needed to get a safety. I like McDonald and he suffered last year playing in a defense that had no idea how to deal with speed. Grade: B-
Players still available: Keenan Allen, Matt Barkley, Terron Armstead, Khaseem Greene, Jesse Williams, Quinton Patton. I feel bad for Matt Barkley right now.
#72 New York Jets select Brian Winters (G, Kent State)
Great pick. There was talk he could go in the second. Again, kudos to the Jets. If they get Chris Ivory… Grade: A
#73 Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Mike Glennon (QB, NC State)
I can’t believe Matt Barkley is still available. A lot of others will be surprised Ryan Nassib is too. This puts Josh Freeman on notice. Grade: C
#74 Dallas Cowboys select Terrance Williams (WR, Baylor)
Pure body catcher. Not as fast as advertised. Suits the Dallas offense but needs to improve catching technique.
#75 New Orleans select Terron Armstead (T, Arkansas Pine-Bluff)
Great pick. They had a need at tackle. You can’t ignore his upside in this range. Grade: A
In case anyone cares, I had Christine Michael as the 17th best player in the draft and the #1 running back. You can see the full list here.
Here’s area scout Matt Berry discussing the Michael pick:
#76 San Diego Chargers select Keenan Allen (WR, California)
It was only a matter of time. They needed a receiver like this. Grade: B+
#77 Miami Dolphins select Dallas Thomas (G, Tennessee)
Great choice. Thomas is too good to go in this range, considering who went in the first two rounds. He can play tackle or guard. Grade: A
#78 Buffalo Bills select Marquise Goodwin (WR, Texas)
I’m a big Robert Woods guy, but I hate the other picks made by Buffalo. It’s like they’re taking this whole read-option thing too seriously. Grade: D
#79 Pittsburgh Steelers select Markus Wheaton (WR, Oregon State)
The Steelers and Ravens just ‘get it’. Awesome pick. Grade: A+
#80 Dallas Cowboys select J.J. Wilcox (S, Georgia Southern)
I’m surprised they left it this late to get a safety. Grade: C+
#81 New York Giants select Damontre Moore (DE, Texas A&M)
Expected him to go in round three. Worth the risk here. Grade: C
New Orleans trades up to #82, swapping picks with the Chicago Bears
#82 New Orleans select John Jenkins (DT, Georgia)
They’re switching to the 3-4. Credit to the Saints, they’re filling big needs. Grade: B
#83 New England select Logan Ryan (CB, Rutgers)
The best Patriots pick so far in my opinion. Grade: B
#84 Cincinnati Bengals select Shawn Williams (S, Georgia)
When you can get a safety as good as this in round three, it’s understandable why they waited. Grade: A-
#85 Washington Redskins select Jordan Reed (TE, Florida)
A nice get for the Skins here. Mobile and will constantly look for ways to get open when the QB is on the move. Grade: B
#86 Indianapolis Colts select Hugh Thornton (G, Illinois)
Nope, I don’t know anything about him either. Grade: C
SEAHAWKS ARE ON THE CLOCK
#87 Seattle Seahawks select Jordan Hill (DT, Penn State)
There’s your answer at defensive tackle. AND — a pure three technique. Loved him on tape and another guy we’ve talked about. Flashes some Geno Atkins.
#88 San Francisco 49ers select Corey Lemonier (DE, Auburn)
Hard to argue with this. Amazing value for the 49ers. Grade: A
#89 Houston Texas select Brennan Williams (T, North Carolina)
The value in this range is pretty stunning. Grade: A
#90 Denver Broncos select Kayvon Webster (CB, USF)
I’m stumped, not watched the guy. Grade: N/A
#91 New England Patriots select Duron Harmon (S, Rutgers)
I’m surprised Khaseem Greene is hanging around. Smart pick. Grade: B
#92 St. Louis Rams select Steadman Bailey (WR, West Virginia)
So Tavon Austin and Steadman Bailey are reunited in St. Louis. Now I’m scared. Grade: A+
#93 Miami Dolphins select Will Davis (CB, Utah State)
This guy did a great job against Quinton Patton, who remains on the board. Grade: B+
#94 Baltimore Ravens select Brandon Williams (DT, Missouri Southern)
Big body but hard to judge on the tape that was available. Grade: C
Jordan Hill speaks to the media after being picked by Seattle:
#95 Houston Texans select Sam Montgomery (DE, LSU)
About where he was expected to go. Character concerns killed his stock.
#96 Kansas City select Knile Davis (RB, Arkansas)
Loved his 2010 tape. Fumbles an issue. What’s the issue with Jonathan Franklin? Grade: B
#97 Tennessee Titans select Zaviar Gooden (LB, Missouri)
And that’s that. The end of day two. Grade: C-
Again, apologies for the lack of Cover it Live coverage. We’d done it for the last two years. Would’ve been great to do it again. But they want money. I’ll have a post on the blog shortly reviewing day two.
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For some reason, I can’t seem to be able to join
Rob….. I can’t get on because it’s full….. can you expand at all?
Menelik Watson, Terron Armstead, John Hankins, Kawann Short, Sio Moore, Khaseem Greene. So excited!
Rob…where do you think Steadman Bailey falls? Seeing all of these Geno Smith highlights make me really intrigued by him.
The Jets should take him in R3.
Jets continue with their very strong draft.
Sando called Tank C.. good pick. If healthy
crazy how the 9rs are able to move up for practically nothing, and then move down for a bevy of picks. Damn I hate that team.
It shows you the leverage of timing. Have to respect it .. but yeah hate them lol
some other team needs to throw a lot of money at their GM and get him out of the NFCW 🙂
LOL… Well I was thinking the new Browns owner was a smart guy. But recent news says otherwise 😛
Ya have to like what the Bills have done.
Like the Woods pick. E.J Manuel in the first round not so sure of.
Whos Oakland going to take?
Honestly Tank Carradine didn’t impress me much at all. I was holding my breath when the niners were picking and they picked a player I wasn’t a fan of so I guess I can breath a little sigh of relief. Although you never know.
no grade for the Raiders pick eh Rob? 😉
I’m losing it over your “Men Lick” comment.
Same!
Almost as good as the “king of mock drafts” – abdication, syphylis comment.
Man…Hawks could have the pick of the linebacker litter here.
Short off the board….
Was Carradine a fit for the Hawks?
Carolina loading up on some good D- tacks
Pretty solid draft for the Cards so far.
I’m sort of disappointed to se them take Short. Not because I wanted him, but I want as many viable targets for Seattle to be on the board at 56 because it will be interesting to see who they pass on.
Arthur Brown still in range… crazy
Just commented on that lol. Interesting
And Greene.
Anyone have any thoughts as to why Brown is still on the board with Minter and Alonso both gone?
There goes Escobar. Sigh…
And Dallas pick up Witten 2.0
Hodge = Big Mouth. Square Head.
LOl… and yet very true
Dang, there goes Hankins.
Any of these teams in front of us taking a linebacker??
Rob, with both still on the board who would you prefer for the hawks; Arthur Brown or Khaseem Greene?
Hard question I like both. I’d give the edge to Greene.
Another LB. 6 picks to go
Would it be ironic if Matt Barkley is available when we pick?
Not so much ironic but it’s probably going to happen.
I still like Barkley to Houston.
Damn, I shitload of awesome players still on the board!!!!! Can’t wait for this pick!!
How are you gonna feel when they pass on all those “awesome players” and take someone you’ve never heard of? Haha
I’m gonna say they don’t go linebacker at 56 even if Arthur Brown and K. Greene are both available, although I’m not confident in that prediction. I’d be very happy with either.
Margus Hunt to Bengals. Wow, so many options falling to us.
Cincinnati likes those raw freak DE’s, They got Michael Johnson in this same range a few years ago and he’s turned into a pretty nice player. Only problem is that Hunt is already older than Johnson I think…
Can I now begin to hope for Aurthor Brown
Looks like the ‘Hawks might have their choice of Lacy or Michael if they wanna go RB.
This pick can go anywhere for us. Nice option to not have to really pick for need.
No Lacy Please
Matt Barkley !!!!
Whoever it is, should be an immediate impact player with all the talent here.
Greene or Patton and it will be a good day.
Shit, Niners trade with Green Bay, wonder who they want?
SF right in front of us. Yikes.
Jesse Williams is the pick
I am still hoping for Terron Armstead here
Fuck the Forty Niners and their shitload of picks
Cmon….. let’s get Arthur Brown.
Dolphins take a CB, wow, wonder who was so important that SF jumped in front of us to get?
Still wouldn’t be surprised to see them grab Cornelius Washington out of left field…
2 more picks!
SEA!!!!!!!
Niners take Vance McDonald
Fuck!!! Seahawks trade down. Must feel like their guy is going to fall to them later
Did we trade back?
Did we trade back?
Sorry. My computer locked up.
I really wish they would stop talking about Teo…
Ravens trade with Hawks, probably Arthur Brown
Seattle trades out with Baltimore?
and they take a player that most of us would have liked…
Yep, Arthur Brown, wonder what we got??????
Seattle gets picks 62, 165, and 199
Traded down! LOL So Seahawks!
Either they have so many guys they like, or they’re targeting a guy that no one is going to take. Gonna be something crazy like Denard Robinson if that’s the case.
What did we get to drop down? Anybody?
We have 12 picks now!
Any word on what we acquired?
Wonder what the chances of Kaseem Greene making it to our 3rd rounder are.
Why not Matt Barkley… why not!!!!
Matt Barkley… Matt Barkley… Matt Barkley!!!
Not in round 2.
why not? we scared?
Armstead?
Jesse is still there
At some point, we’re gonna draft someone from Wisconson.
i’m not that angry. the drop off from a second rounder to a third rounder is minimal in this draft.
as long as you don’t need anything, might as well trade down. so you can shoot till you hit.
Trade down again?
Dobson to Pats, Alford to Falcons. Another corner for them.
so we get a 5th and a 6th for dropping back 6 spots? sold!
Love our GM, keep the picks coming, so many late round prospects to be had.
And still got our guy.
More more (if we actually make the pick this time)
I’m stunned that they didn’t take Arthur Brown while he was still on the board. I think they have someone targeted that they know others consider a reach, because you know that was tough for PC to not pick Brown. I’m guessing they have their eye on a WR that people think should be a lot lower. Or they just look at the WR’s still on the board (Keenan Allen, Wheaton, Bailey) and know someone will still be there. Don’t be surprised if they move down again.
I would love to trade down again, more picks and lots of great options still out there.
still a ton of great players out there. wouldn’t be surprised to see them drop back again
seattle just traded up
maybe not.. I just saw their logo on the screen..
Eddie Lacy to packers
Not surprising at all.
We’ve got a lot of options here. I love it.
So what happened? Did SF trade down again?
Finally!!! Who will it be. Rob???
Kaseem Greene, #62.
prediction or inside info?
Obviously not inside info… Lol.
Greene
Swope
Lemonier (he’s still out there?)
Christine Michaels
Chistine Michael!!
Wow, Eddie Lacy…
RB of the future
It is Michael, though I wanted Armstead here.
Lemonier
wow! we picked!
I have to wonder if the Hawks had Lacey somewhere around this spot. I love the trade back btw
two late round picks is awsome for the way this FO drafts!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!
Woo Hoo! CM!!!
Money!
Chistine Michael!
Michael!
yes yes yes yes yes yes!!! best back in the draft!!!
Well played Seahawks. Well played!
ok, help me out here guys, why take a RB with our 2nd round pick if we have Marshawn and we just drafted Turbin?
Because he’s a RARE talent that fits perfectly with our offense. Because he’s arguably the best player available. Because Lynch can’t keep taking as many snaps as he has, and Turbin just isn’t on the same level as Michael. Trust me on this…you’ll be very pleased with this.
cool, I’ll trust you (and JS and PC 🙂
BPA, fits ZBS system, Marshawn takes a pounding, we’re a run oriented team, and Turbin doesn’t look like a feature back
I haven’t though Turbin looked like a feature back either, I just didn’t think anyone agreed with me 🙂
Well, he wanted to be here. Love the pick, amazing athlete!!! Love our ground and pound.
Agreed. When looking his numbers jump out. Go back and look at the film and this is a solid solid pick. Love it
Yeah….220lbs with some wiggle. I like it!
Very interesting pick, going to be excited whoever we pick though!
Hahaha, the sports radio guys sound like they want to jump off the roof of the VMAC.
Michaels tex am
It was the picture of him with E.T. hehe. I saw that and took the omen
That’s right. Respect the omen.
“Christine Michael to the Seahawks? This one should catch everyone off-guard.
Seattle appears stacked at running back with Marshawn Lynch and Robert Turbin. The team could use a defensive tackle, an outside linebacker, a tight end and possibly depth for the offensive line.
NFL teams drafted no running backs in the first round. Michael was the fifth and final one taken in the second round.
I’ll be interested in hearing the Seahawks’ explanation for this pick. I’m guessing we’ll hear the team talk about taking the best player available.” – Mike Sando
Sando reads the Seahawks blogs. He should know better.
It is pretty cool to pick someone who was so pumped about possibly coming to the hawks.
I said I like to see Khaseem Green in a picture with E.T. and when that photo of Christine Michaels showed up on the blog I said this is a omen and he was was my pick every since. The trade back was a bonus.
Sorry but I’m not buying this. I would’ve much rather have had Arthur Brown, who could start and also fills an immediate need. We don’t hit on every pic- Jaye Howard, Bruce Irvin- and this I see as another whiff. I’m not feeling the way I did last year when we drafted Wagner and Wilson.
They didn’t miss on Irvin. The kid led all rookies in sacks. That is not missing.
He nerver truly impacted one game. And they brought in Cliff Avril to replace Clemons with Irvin on the roster. not exactly a roaring endorsement. And last year is a weak year for pass rushers. Who esle was around, Mel Ingram or Quinten Couples? Come on, now
Really? That sack fumble that sealed the game against Carolina wasn’t an “impact”? I’m sorry you hated the pick and have been seeking reasons to dislike him.
Hmmm…so you’re not buying this? After JS and PC have created a SB favorite in a matter of 3 years by BUILDING THROUGH THE DRAFT? You’re not trusting their picks? Really?!
Agree totally.
Ya because Carpenter has been such a great pick? OR Moffitt? a 3rd pick who lost his starting job to a 7th round pick who had never played the position before. or Kris Durham is he still on the team?
Spare me the “every pick they make is gold” B.S. 9 picks in 2011 and only 2 turned out to be worth it. Now dropping a 2nd round pick on a 3rd string RB? I expect him to be right up there with Carpenter and Walter Thurmond in the total waste of a pick.
LOL. We have a disagreement and suddenly we have a new member. funny how that works.
His point is valid if he’s new or not.
Irvin a whiff? Seriously?
The draft is far from over and this FO has proven they can find great LB talent in the later rounds. How could you pass up on the heir apparent to Lynch? The guy has elite, first round caliber talent.
I can see what you mean with a need there. But if the front office doesn’t see something that is there you go with the player you have rated the highest. No team is build in one draft which drives me crazy when a bad team passes over a better player to take a solid need position. Take the better player now and see what you can get in the late rounds then next year you pry have a chance to address that need. Chances are if you are a bad team or even a good team that one spot wont be the end all.
Its rare IMHO that you draft for need.
Michael will be Lynchs successor. Not an “impact now” pick, but we’ll be reaping the benefits here in a few years. Great pick.
Love it!! Adds a great option to our offense. Maybe Marshawn and Turbin won’t reach their respective goals of 2,000 and 800. Sweet. Nice transition into the future at RB.
This seems like the spitting defiintion of a luxury pick. I guess that’s it for turbin, that’s too bad. We could have used a weakside linebacker, tackle (D or O) or receiver depth. When John Schneider said this draft was about ‘depth’ I didn’t know he meant drafting for filled out positions on the roster instead of spots that actually need depth.
That’s it for Turbin? Such a stupid comment.
we still need a OLB Malcolm Smith is not starting quality.
Would like to know what we got for the trade back? the TV guys haven’t told me anything yet
Fifth and a sixth, I think.
Late one’s
5th and 6th rounders this year
We received the 165th (5th round) and 199th (6th round) picks
Is he big enough to spell MRob, too?
Probably not.
Na, hes not a full back. I can see them getting creative with having Harvin now and using some two split back sets. But hes not a fullback.
We will have the best backfield now. Christine Michael will carry the ball 100 or so times this year. He will help us get to the 2800 yard mark we want to get too
Not if we don’t get better play from our OGs, if they don’t step it up we will still only be able to run outside.
Depth at running back is very important. Look at Dallas, Arizona, and Green Bay when your 2 running backs get injuried then its your QB getting hit.
We have more pressing needs but Christine Michael is crazy talented. Dude is super explosive. I like the pick.
If you don’t trust these guys in the draft room by now, you never will. I am shocked by this pick even though I wanted a RB in a later round. I think I will just go ahead and shake my head and look forward watching this backfield roll over oppossing defenses this coming season.
This is a run heavy team that just picked up a very dangerous RB to bolster an already good tandem. I like it.
Don’t over hype their picking. Russel WIlson as a 3rd round good James Carpenter as a 1st round bad. Bobby Wagner 2nd round good John (I got beat out by a 7th rounder who had never played OG before) Moffitt bad. Richard Sherman 5th round good Walter Thurmond 4th round wasted pick
Thanks for helping me to realize that some of the Seahawks picks are good, while others are bad. Carpenter had a devastating knee injury his rookie year and suffered related complications when he resumed play last year. How does that make him a bad pick. There is a good chance he will be a road grader at LG this year.
The concensus opinion is that the Seahawks FO are very adept at finding great players in the Draft, even in the mid – late rounds. So to point out a few picks that haven’t worked out is stupid. I suspect you are not even a Seahawks fan, but rather a 49er troll…Thanks for your edifying contribution…Good luck, giners…
So, if CM proves he’s grown up enough to be a productive player in the NFL . . . what’s the cap hit if we cut Marshawn after the ’13 season?
Should say, rather, what are the cap effects (hit, savings, etc.)?
There goes Tyrann Mathieu…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-BW2gKnVz8
thank god.
Lol, nice.
listening to his interview, the dude is SO excited to be a seahawk.
So what does this mean for Turbin? ‘is he now our Leon Washington running back or are we going to move him?
I would love to trade up in the 3rd to grab Greene or Armstead.
I would’ve rather had a LB, but I trust this front office so much I know this is the right pick. I wondered if they viewed Turbin as the heir apparent to Lynch, obviously not.
Nothing about the Cardinals draft scares me…
Firstly, we are not a SB “favorite”. Seahawks fans know what a dominating team we have, but I doubt few outside of the Seahawks fan nation would consider us favorites to go to the SB. Secondly, if the whole post was read- I clearly state that we don’t hit on EVERY pick. Which we don’t. No one does. I remain objective and believe that Arthur Brown would have been the preferable oprion- hence the disappointment. I stand by my comments about Irvin.
And right now your comments about Irvin are wrong- even if I agree about Arthur Brown.
If only you hadn’t of written, “I remain object”..
*”Objective”
Objectivity is important, I love the Seahawks and have for years. But I don’t agree with or like every move they make. Some fans do. And for the previous comment, some disagree with me about Irvin but I feel he has not had the impact that a 1st round draft pick should have. Watching the games showed this to me, regardless of his stats compared to other rookies.
I’m with you on this one. Irvin was very underwhelming last year. It never seemed like he picked up any additional “moves”. Also, Carpenter has been a total bust.
Here are links to prove part of your argument wrong-
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/24/4260774/nfl-power-rankings-2013-49ers-seahawks-broncos
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/94693/power-rankings-seahawks-49ers-opener
I like the idea of grabbing Greene too but I want Brennan Williams T UNC.
If Quinton Patton gets by Pittsburg I think we have a chance at 87. Hoping its Travis Kelce TE thou.
He’s gone
Kelce that is…
Kelce is gone. Went to KC.
Kelce is gone.
Can’t believe AZ didn’t want Barkley with that 3rd rounder.
Maybe there’s more to this OMEN and we get Khaseem Green at 87 I’m really hoping because as I thought theres been a run on the TE.
Man the QB’s are coming off a lot slower than I thought… Maybe Scott or Barkley will be there in the 4th or 5th!
They are doing an interview with the RB coach, and he is in front of our draft board.. WTF??
i hope they moved the fake one in before doing it lol
Sure doesn’t look like it.. pretty interesting to see where they had some players graded…
Ive watched a good amount of film on Glennon. Mostly because he looks like a pro qb. The way he moves the throwing motion all of it. Then you watch him play and hes not really accurate and just doesnt seem to put it together.
Cant say id take him here in rnd 3
Glennon won’t be a starter in the NFL. I think Tampa wants to light a fire under Freeman’s ass.
Did you guys know that this is the 213th NFL draft? Haha
The question here now is, do you consider Barkley if he happens to get to 87? I might…
Wow. Still no Matt Barkley. I’m stunned. F*ck you Greg Cosell.
Cosell’s guy Ryan Nassib is still available too. So he’s not looking all that.
Yea, and his boy “with the best arm talent” Ryan Lindley didn’t turn out to be much either. I’m pulling for Barkley. I hope he tears this league apart…. just not from inside the NFC West 🙂
So is Barkley.
Not big on the Michael pick and I hate that Williams (WR) is gone. I hope we get Patton or Greene (or even both) with our upcoming picks.
Darn… I wanted Armstead
I still cant believe all the talent that would make sense to the Hawks still being on the board. those 3 round 5s are going to be great.
darn i liked goodwin a lot
Schneider is not done trading. I think he will use one or more of those 5th rounders to move up into the 4th.
wouldnt be surprised
Wheaton to Pittsburg… Perfect guy to replace Mike Wallace. Damn those Steelers!
*Pittsburgh
So true, great pick
Every year Pit gets solid players. And they do it so easily
In contrast I dont see SD having a great draft and continue to move backwards as a organization.
wideouts flying off the board…patton, swope, or da’rick!
Jarvis Jones will be one of the biggest 1st round steals. Who cares about his workouts. Just watch his tape. Steelers let the draft come to them.
Khaseem Green at 87 Woot
I hope so. I’m afraid reality will probably be that he’s available and we don’t pick him.
New England … TE?
Is it me or does Tyrann Mathieu look stoned in his interview?
Remember when you used to make a face, and your mom told you it would get stuck like that? I think he’s just smoked so much weed that he looks like he’s baked all the time…
He sounds it…
I thought he looked high too.
Rob had Dallas Thomas been there for the Hawks, you take him?
In round three? He’d be on my list.
Yeah Rnd three. I love the guy.
Seahawks can still get Greene and Patton!
Swope, Simon or Greene please!!
Its looking like Swope and Simon are mid 4s
Nice!!
Jordan Hill
Jordan Hill…. Money. Go back to his 2011 tape vs ‘Bama. great great pick
Wisconsin tape is great too. I’m sure Rob is putting it up now.
No doubt.. I cant say how much I love this pick.
Jordan Hill! I like this pick
Greene and Patton and we pass. I really thought Hill would be 4th rd
Sounds like a young Mebane.
Not a bad comparison. Honestly when looking thats how I found him. Same measurements. Watch the film he plays much bigger.
If only Curry had been better in Oakland.
If only Curry had been better in Seattle =D!
Lol… I think we salvaged enough for a bad player. And the depth in this draft is perfect timing
Bailey’s an amazing value for STL. What a pick. Dangerous tandem with Austin.
Yeah watching some of these players go is painful when you know we have have had more picks in round three.
Looks like all those later round guys ya wrote about will come in handy with those 2 other picks.
Sad to see Brennan Williams go. Houston knows how to pick offensive lineman.
Seems like every year they get value in Rnd 3 for a offensive lineman
I agree totally – I like how they’re always stocking their line….seems like scheme -wise too that we’re competing for the same players
I like what Houston has done given their needs & draft position….good draft for them.
San Francisco and Baltimore have just punked us in the draft.
Yes, BIg time Punked. They moved up twice and got very good players that filled a need. We just got a couple of stiffs. Totally bummed.
A couple of stiffs? How are you qualifying that?
We drafted three year backups.
Right day 2 over, cant wait to see preview of a very busy day 3!!!! Who are BPAs left? LB: Greene, Diamache, Stewart; WR: Patton, Swope, Harrison, OL:…….
Patton, Greene, and Swope all still on the board
I am so upset with this draft! I swear PC/ JS have become too cocky for their own good. They think they can just draft a bunch of nobodys with lower round grades and turn them into stars. Idiots!!! How much of it is ego? Yea, they rolled the dice and got lucky last year, but they can’t count on getting pro bowl players year after year in the late rounds. Its like they purposely refuse to grab a talented guy and take a stiff so they can mold them into something so they can get all of the praise.
Christine Michaels, are you kidding me!!! Not only is he average at best, he doesn’t even address a need that the Hawks have, like OLB and DT, or a joker TE. To #@$#@ with the the future and picking talented players in positions of need in case of injury, or replace players when their contracts are up. NNNNOOOOO!!!!!!
The Hawks passed on Khaseem Green, Quinton Patton, Kecle, Jordon Reed, Dobson. No we don’t need any of these players who are good enough to start. They take Michaels and some stiff named Hill, who was graded far below where they drafted him (see NFL.com draft tracker). Brandon Williams was ranked much higher and they ignored him, which he was taken a few picks later.
Years from now none of these lousy picks will be around, and if they are, the Hawks will be back to average. Meanwhile everyone else in the NFC West loaded up with more players, and all of whom with higher rated talent. They better win the super bowl this year because the NFC West just got a lot better and the Hawks just screwed themselves. They can pat themselves on the back because they got a bunch of 6th and 7th round picks, WHOOPIE!!. While the 49’s just got a lot more talented.
Had could have had LB Green with #56, and DT Williams with the #87. I am so bummed out, can’t beleive the we just got a couple of nobodys.
They obviously don’t know what they are doing. Don’t they read Internet draft ratings like you do? I’d just give up on the Hawks and stop posting if I were you.
Hey, I said they got lucky last year. But just because you got lucky doesn’t mean you can count on being lucky again. For months we read and hear about these other players who make a difference, getting out hopes up, and then they get these nobodys?
Looking at them on video they don’t even look that good, not compared to the other players they passed on.
How are they “nobodys.?” Both were addressed by Rob and Kip and encouraged as positive, potential picks. I don’t know what to say man…
Lucky last year.
And the year before.
And the year before.
Sorry, but they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt on most things. I don’t like the RB pick either. Hill wasn’t a surprise though. Perhaps half a round early, but nothing egregious.
I should say, I don’t like RB in the 2nd. I do like the RB they picked though. This guy might’ve been my favorite of the RBs.
When they get “lucky” year after year it just might not be luck. If a team simply takes the top rated player on any .com website then they will be perrenial losers. That is where actual scouting comes in. You find the players that best fit your scheme. You draft for the team and don’t care how anyone else ranks the player. Sherman, Browner, Wright, Wilson, Turbin, Tate, Chancellor and company were not lucky picks. They were the results of hundreds or thousands of hours of scouting to find the best players that fit a particular offense and defense and that compliment each other.
To put it bluntly you just don’t know what you are talking about. Don’t feel bad. Even the most knowledgeable of us here know only a small fraction of what Schnieder and Carroll know. All those ESPN guys only know a small fraction too. The more you know, the more you realize you don’t know.
Dear Don,
Don’t be so stupid/critical.
-Everyone ever
Don is just upset he lost his job a few years ago as a Seahawks scout when PC/JS came on board…oh wait! No?…Not a scout?…oh…weird!
I can’t believe how badly the Seahawks screwed up…they obviously aren’t on Bleacher Report stealing the scouting information being dug up there. I predict JS/PC will be out a job by training camp if these trends continue
Calm down, you may have wanted different players but the ones we drafted were great picks with high upside. We still have plenty of pics and both Khaseem Green and Quinton Patton could be there in the 4th round.
lol, this is pretty funny.
Hill is a great penetrator that is probably the most sure tackler in this draft class at any position. I don’t think I saw him miss a single tackle against Wisconsin or Iowa. He gets blown off the ball, but if he’s used at 3-tech in base, having Mebane and Red on the line will definitely mask this. I agree with the assessment that he is at worst a situational DT replacing Clinton McDonald. At best he becomes a double digit sack artist in the Stubblefield mold.
Instead of looking at a couple big boards and mock drafts, watch the Wisconsin video. Quick off the snap, good at keeping defenders off his body, good interior swim move, great moving down the line and in traffic, good short area quickness, elite tackler.
Oh man, isn’t it obvious that the Hawks passed on the best DT available in Jesse Williams. I mean, jeeze nobody else has picked him yet. Must be way to good to pass on if every team has done it three times.
Come on man
The fact that other teams haven’t snapped him up should tell you something.
3 years ago, PC/JS purged the entire Seahawks roster and began to rebuild. This is their 4th Draft. The previous 3 Drafts were ridiculed by the experts. But the quality of the players they chose soon proved to eveyone that PC/JS’ Draft decisions were genius. One good Draft could be lucky; but 3 years in a row and they have kiled it! So let’s wait and see. In the meantime, I must alert you that your comment was equal parts hilarious and borish…
Lots of good players left in fourth Darrick Rodgers, mark Harrison, Matt Barkley arey three favorite
RB #1
6’1″
217lbs
40yd dash – 4.4 seconds
3-cone drill – 7.09 seconds
20-yd shuttle – 4.40 seconds
Vertical leap – 38.5 inches
broad jump – 127inches
RB #2
5′ 10″
220lbs
40yd dash 4.54 seconds
3-cone drill – 6.69 seconds
20-yd shuttle – 4.02 seconds
Vertical leap – 43 inches
broad jump – 125inches
RB#1 is Adrian Peterson
RB#2 is Christine Michael
kinda puts into perspective just what level of athletic freak running back we just drafted. Consider me excited.
I hope he is as good as everyone says he is, he isn’t the guy I wanted and running back just seemed like a spot I wouldn’t pick, I’m not sure turbin is the heir apparant but I though he was good when he had chances, and I think would be capable of filling in a game or to for lynch if there was an injury. However if micheals is a future star then it’s still a good pick but that’s the only way I end up liking this pick is if micheals turns into a star and that’s a pretty high bar to clear for a 2nd rounder.
I’m pretty confident he’ll be a star. We’ve got two more seasons of Lynch before he becomes to expensive and will probably be a cap casualty. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Michael contend to lead the league in rushing in 3 years from now. He has the tallent and physical tools and will have a top offensive line and scheme. He’ll be a stud.
I would have honestly taken him over Doug Martin and probably even Trent Richardson.
He’ll be a darling of fantasy football keeper leagues this year no doubt.
Cysco, thanks for looking that up. I watched some of his tape and CM’s measurements accurately show how he plays. His lateral quickness and lower body explosiveness is amazing, and I would argue that he is quicker than AP. His 43″ verical was the best at the 2013 combine. Cheers!
Thanks for a positive post! I have been kinda bummed seeing all the negative crud from UN’s I do not recognize. PC/JS have made the Draft experts ridicule look dumb 3 years in a row. It just takes a while to see how our new players will perform…and perform they have!!!
We knew SF was going to kill it in this draft. They are a good drafting team with a lot of picks. A lot of low picks too.
I think the Steelers have drafted well again. Jarvis Jones, Le Veon Bell, and Marcus Wheaton. I know the Bell pick has been panned but I like the guy and he just seems like a Steeler.
GFO, we have a 4 (123), three 5’s (138, 158, 165), two 6’s (194, 199), and four 7’s. The Seahawks have some ammo too.
Hey Rob! Nice work on the draft this year and good call on Jordan Hill. Could you put together a new list of Best Available for 4th round +? If not that’s cool I totally understand. Thanks for all you do.
This draft to me, is the worst performed by JS/PC. They are forcing picks in my mind this year. Brown was there. He is worth a 5th and 6th pick. Stupid.
Day two review post is now up on the homepage.
I think it’s time to move up the board and take Matt Barkley. Good back-up at very least and easy flip potential.
I like the Christine Michael pick and the trade down to stockpile picks. Jordan hill looks like a good DL pick for the hawks, but he’s not a 3-tech. He played NT most of the time at penn st. Also he isn’t the prototype 3-tech size we look for. I think this guy is just another DLine depth for Quinn to work with. I’m kind of surprised we didn’t grab a 3-tech competition for McDaniel with this pick, but I guess we will see what they do
WOW!
R1 – Percy Harvin (Counts)
R2 – Christine Michael – Awesome call Rob! Makes TONS of sense to me. Run the most, get the best RB.
R3 – Jordan Hill – Again, only know this guy because of this blog!! !! Delivered. His radio interview made clear he is a RW type worker. Early IN, late OUT. If we can add Khassem Greene to that – nice…
R4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 77777… Ecstatic!
Rams getting Tavon bugged me if any of you remember how much I wanted him – thankfully PC/JS got a “proven” player of that nature. When they added Stedman Bailey – Rob pointed out his Quality also – That is AMAZING drafting. Dammit! Oh well, should make the games between the NFC West the best in the BiZ… If Bradford, with his first consecutive year with a playbook and OC, has his chance and also “wake-up call”. Play ball, we armed u to the teeth, our bye bye…
ANTOINE WINFIELD is going to eat some ram for dinner…
I’ve got a serious man-crush on a couple of linemen, (Marquardt and Faulk), and Dimanche, Greene would be excellent values at olb. Armanty Bryant/Montori Huges would be a calculated risk worth taking this late as well. So many options left. This is the strangest draft I can remember in that I wanted no part of the mid to late first round, but I’d love several mid-round prospects. Oh, and Don…
YOU MAD, BRO?!