Live Blog: Combine day one (DL, LB)

March 2nd, 2023 | Written by Rob Staton

Welcome to the 2023 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog

Throughout the next few days I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis. I will also post a daily recap article and a daily live stream.

On top of that, Robbie Williams is attending the combine and will provide insight from his perspective inside Lucas Oil Field.

Keep refreshing this page for updates

The workouts begin today at 3pm ET (12pm PT).

Some things to note — Will Anderson is working out with the linebackers (which, frustratingly, means we won’t learn his 10-yard split time as they don’t show it for LB’s). Tyree Wilson isn’t testing as he continues to recover from an ankle injury.

This is a critical day for the Seahawks with a big focus on the front seven expected in the draft, even if they go in a different direction at #5.

Feel free to use the comments section as an open thread as the community discusses day one at the combine!

For a handy combine guide on who or what to look for, check out our ‘ultimate combine preview’ by clicking here.

On a quarterback note…

Measurements

These are starting to trickle in…

Drew Sanders
Height: 6040
Weight: 235
Arm: 32 1/8
Hand: 9 3/4

Trenton Simpson
Height: 6020
Weight: 235
Arm: 32 3/8
Hand: 10 1/4

Jack Campbell
Height: 6050
Weight: 249
Arm: 31 7/8
Hand: 10 1/4

Tyree Wilson
Height: 6060
Weight: 271
Arm: 35 3/8
Hand: 9 5/8

Myles Murphy
Height: 6050
Weight: 268
Arm: 33 3/4
Hand: 8 1/2

Nolan Smith
Height: 6020
Weight: 238
Arm: 32 5/8
Hand: 9

Mike Morris
Height: 6050
Weight: 275
Arm: 33 1/2
Hand: 10

Will Anderson
Height: 6034
Weight: 253
Arm: 33 7/8
Hand: 9 7/8

Calijah Kancey
Height: 6010
Weight: 281
Arm: 30 5/8
Hand: 9 1/8

Gervon Dexter
Height: 6060
Weight: 310
Arm: 32 1/4
Hand: 9 1/2

Mazi Smith
Height: 6030
Weight: 323
Arm: 33 3/4
Hand: 9 3/4

Jalen Carter
Height: 6030
Weight: 314
Arm: 33 1/2
Hand: 10 1/4

Bryan Bresee
Height: 6054
Weight: 298
Arm: 32 1/2
Hand: 10 1/4

Felix Anudike-Uzomah
Height: 6031
Weight: 255
Arm: 33 1/2
Hand: 9 5/8

Will McDonald
Height: 6035
Weight: 239
Arm: 34 7/8
Hand: 9 1/2

Zach Harrison
Height: 6054
Weight: 274
Arm: 36 1/4
Hand: 10

Jalen Redmond
Height: 6-2
Weight: 291
Arm: 32 5/8
Hand: 10 1/8

Ivan Pace Jr.
Height: 5-10
Weight: 231
Arm: 30 1/4
Hand: 9 1/2

Owen Pappoe
Height: 6-0
Weight: 225
Arm Length: 31 3/4
Hand Size: 9 1/8

Noah Sewell
Height: 6-1
Weight: 246
Arm Length: 31 5/8
Hand Size: 10

DeMarvion Overshown
Height: 6-3
Weight: 229
Arm Length: 32 1/4
Hand Size: 9 1/2

Ventrell Miller
Height: 6-0
Weight: 232
Arm Length: 32 1/2
Hand Size: 9 1/8

Daiyan Henley
Height: 6-2
Weight: 225
Arm Length: 33
Hand Size: 9 1/2

Tyrus Wheat
Height: 6-2
Weight: 263
Arm Length: 32 7/8
Hand Size: 9

Dylan Horton
Height: 6-4
Weight: 257
Arm Length: 33 1/8
Hand Size: 9 1/2

Nick Hampton
Height: 6-2
Weight: 236
Arm Length: 33 5/8
Hand Size: 9 1/2

Adetomiwa Adebawore
Height: 6-2
Weight: 282
Arm Length: 33 7/8
Hand Size: 10 1/2

Andre Carter II
Height: 6-6
Weight: 256
Arm Length: 33 3/8
Hand Size: 9 3/8

Keion White
Height: 6-5
Weight: 285
Arm Length: 34
Hand Size: 10 1/8

KJ Henry
Height: 6-4
Weight: 251
Arm Length: 33
Hand Size: 10

Lukas Van Ness
Height: 6-5
Weight: 272
Arm Length: 34
Hand Size: 11

Tuli Tuipulotu
Height: 6-3
Weight: 266
Arm Length: 32 1/4
Hand Size: 10 1/8

Derick Hall
Height: 6-3
Weight: 254
Arm Length: 34 1/2
Hand Size: 10

BJ Ojulari
Height: 6-2
Weight: 248
Arm Length: 34 1/4
Hand Size: 10 1/2

Moro Ojomo
Height: 6-3
Weight: 292
Arm Length: 34 1/2
Hand Size: 10 3/8

Byron Young (Alabama)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 294
Arm Length: 34 3/8
Hand Size: 11

Keeanu Benton
Height: 6-4
Weight: 309
Arm Length: 33 7/8
Hand Size: 9 3/4

Zacch Pickens
Height: 6-4
Weight: 291
Arm Length: 34 3/8
Hand Size: 10 3/8

The main note here for me is Mazi Smith’s near 34-inch arms. That is a huge plus and given how he’s expected to test, could easily put him on Seattle’s radar (plus other teams).

I feared Bryan Bresee would have sub-33 inch arms at that is proven to be true.

40 yard dash (defensive tackles)

10-yard splits in brackets

Keeanu Benton (1.79) 5.13 & (1.79) 5.16
Bryan Bresee (1.71) 4.93 & (1.72) 4.93
Jerrod Clark (1.82) 5.34 & (1.84) 5.30
Keondre Coburn (1.82) 5.26 & (1.82) 5.27
D.J. Dale (1.81) 5.30 & (1.83) 5.34
Gervon Dexter (1.81) 5.00 & (1.75) 4.93
Siaki Ika (1.88) 5.45 & (1.90) 5.49
Calijah Kancey (1.64) 4.78 & (1.64) 4.73
P.J. Mustipher (1.88) 5.45 & (1.90) 5.48
Moro Ojomo (1.77) 5.12 & (1.79) 5.23
Zacch Pickens (1.74) 4.96 & (1.75) 4.98
Jalen Redmond (1.72) 4.85 & (1.71) 4.86
Nesta Jade Silvera (1.77) 5.21 & (1.77) 5.20
Dante Stills (1.72) 4.92 & (1.72) 4.94
Cameron Young (1.80) 5.18 & (1.81) 5.20

These are also trickling in…

Vertical jumps

Jalen Redmond: 34.5
Moro Ojomo: 33
Gervon Dexter: 31
Zacch Pickens: 30.5
Keeanu Benton:: 29.5
Nesta Jade Silvera: 29.5
Bryan Bresee: 29
Dante Stills: 28.5
Jerrod Clark: 27.5
Keondre Coburn: 27.5
PJ Mustipher: 27.5
Byron Young (Alabama): 26
DJ Dale: 25.5

Broad Jumps

Jalen Redmond: 9-8
Zacch Pickens: 9-8
Dante Stills: 9-5
Moro Ojomo: 9-4
Keeanu Benton: 9-3
Gervon Dexter Sr.: 9-2
Nesta Jade Silvera: 9-2
Byron Young: 9-0
Jerrod Clark: 8-6
Keondre Coburn: 8-5
DJ Dale: 8-2
PJ Mustipher: 8

Moro Ojomo is showing some good testing numbers. There’s a possibility I will have a chance to interview him in the coming weeks.

John Schneider is live on the NFL Network within the first hour of it starting. He really is increasing his media work this year. He has never done any of these interviews before during the combine.

He says they adjusted their approach to grading changed slightly last year because they had new defensive staff and a scheme tweak. He spoke confidently about getting something done with Geno Smith. Aside from that, nothing major was discussed.

How does Calijah Kancey compare to Aaron Donald?

Kancey ran an official 4.67 with a 1.64 split at 281lbs. Aaron Donald ran a 4.68 at 285lbs with a 1.63 split. So, they are very similar physically.

However, Kancey has 30 5/8 inch arms. Donald’s are 32 5/8 inches. There’s a big difference there.

Notes on the drills

First it’s the wave drill which I really enjoy because you get a sense of movement and athleticism.

Moro Ojomo just looks fantastic. His drill wasn’t anything special because he was hesitant but just look at the guy. He looks like a machine. His body has barely any bad weight. He’s long, athletic, quick and explosive. He is very interesting.

Zacch Pickens looked as smooth as silk running his wave drill.

I thought Alabama’s Byron Young, who didn’t run a 40, did a good job with his effort. He moved across the field quickly. Cameron Young also impressed.

Now onto the four-bag drills. Bryan Bresee looked tremendous going in and out of the bags. That’s not a surprise — he’s a quick, agile, natural athlete. Siaki Ika did a good job for his size and Gervon Dexter looked good in this drill.

Moro Ojomo is going at his own pace getting into position for these drills but he still looks good to me. Zacch Pickens is putting on a show and flashing the athleticism that was very evident on tape. Pickens’ conditioning meant he got a bit gassed during games so let’s see if he can keep up the pace here.

There’s some tightness in Byron Young’s hips but he’s a 294lbs brute-force attacking linemen. So it doesn’t bother me too much.

Keeanu Benton and Bryan Bresee on the pass rush bag-drills were quick, aggressive and powerful. I wish Gervon Dexter played as well as he’s looking in these bag drills. Moro Ojomo continues to impress with a powerful, sudden rep. Zacch Pickens is just making it look easy with such clear natural athleticism and fluidity.

I really like the run-and-club drill through the bags. Keeanu Benton and Bryan Bresee are launching into every drill and setting the tone. Tremendous effort, power and mobility from both. As with most of the other drills, Moro Ojomo and Zacch Pickens then carry it on. I have a man crush on Ojomo with his length, athleticism and power.

Cameron Young was asked to open his hips during his rep and he and Byron Young do have a bit more stiffness compared to the big-time athletes impressing here. However, they just look powerful and sturdy. Byron Young in particular just looks like the BAMF we know him to be.

Now it’s the figure-eight drill which the NFL Network is calling ‘run the hoop’. I love this drill for ankle-flexion and agility. Keeanu Benton was incredibly smooth on his rep and he’s having a great workout. Gervon Dexter looked very athletic again and Siaki Ika was very impressive with the calmness and fluidity of his effort at his size.

Moro Ojomo looked like a terminator on his rep. Again, Zacch Pickens looks in complete control. Byron Young dropped the towel at the end of his rep but otherwise leaned well around the hoop and looked very quick. Cameron Young again looked stiff — I’m not anticipating a great short shuttle but we’ll see.

Mazi Smith isn’t testing

Apparently he has tweaked a hamstring injury. That’s a real shame because he was set to be one of the stars of the combine.

Official 40 times (DT)

Calijah Kancey — 4.67
Jalen Redmond — 4.81
Dante Stills — 4.85
Bryan Bresee — 4.86
Gervon Dexter — 4.88
Zacch Pickens — 4.89
Moro Ojomo — 5.04
Keeanu Benton — 5.08
Cameron Young — 5.10
Nesa Jade Silvera — 5.16

10-yard splits (DT)

Calijah Kancey — 1.64
Bryan Bresee — 1.71
Jalen Redmond — 1.71
Dante Stills — 1.72
Zacch Pickens — 1.74
Gervon Dexter — 1.75
Moro Ojomo — 1.77
Nesa Jade Silvera — 1.77
Keeanu Benton — 1.79
Cameron Young — 1.80

I always say anything in the 1.5’s is ‘elite’ for an edge rusher. So Kancey’s 1.64 is a special time — and those early 1.7’s are very impressive too for the bigger guys.

Could the Cardinals trade down from #3?

Looks like Arizona wants to move down with a QB hungry team. If the Bears trade down to #4, with the top-three QB’s going off the board then potentially Will Anderson, that would possibly be a worst case scenario for Seattle.

DE/Edge forty yard dash times

The 10-yard splits are in brackets. Remember — anything in the 1.5’s is an elite split for an edge rusher in the 250-260 range.

Adetomiwa Adebwarore (1.61) 4.54 & DNR
Habakkuk Baldonado (1.67) 4.78 & (1.68) 4.83
Robert Beal (1.64) 4.58 & (1.62) 4.53
Brenton Cox Jr (1.65) 4.85 & (1.77) 4.88
YaYa Diaby (1.56) 4.56 & DNR
Ikenna Enechukwu (1.66) 4.77 & (1.67) 4.84
Isaiah Foskey (1.67) 4.64 & (1.66) 4.68
Nick Hampton (1.66) 4.68 & (1.65) 4.71
KJ Henry (1.65) 4.71 & pulled up injured during second run
Thomas Incoom (1.65) 4.75 & (1.68) 4.81
Tyler Lacy (1.72) 5.15 & (1.75) 5.19
Isaiah Land (1.67) 4.70 & (1.65) 4.66
Isaiah McGuire (1.73) 4.84 & (1.72) 4.86
Mike Morris (1.72) 5.04 & (1.77) 5.11
Caleb Murphy (1.65) 4.82 & (1.72) 4.86
Jose Ramirez (1.65) 4.80 & (1.63) 4.79
Tavius Robinson (1.64) 4.72 & (1.63) 4.72
Nolan Smith (1.52) 4.44 & DNR
Lukas Van Ness (1.64) 4.64 & (1.65) 4.66
Colby Wooden (1.71) 4.84 & (1.68) 4.86
Byron Young-Tennessee (1.63) 4.51 & (1.62) 4.48

Adetomiwa Adebwarore is heavier than Calijah Kancey, has none of the length issues and just ran a faster forty and split. He’s already jumped a 37.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad as well.

In cased you missed it, here’s my interview with ‘Ade Ade’:

I liked YaYa Diaby at the Senior Bowl and he ran in the 1.5’s.

Why is Nolan Smith working out with the D-liners and Will Anderson working out with the linebackers? A nonsense.

It’s a really good time for Lukas Van Ness at +270lbs.

A lot of the pass rush group didn’t run, which is a shame. We’ll see how many of these show up in the linebacker runs but Will McDonald, Myles Murphy, Keion White, B.J. Ojulari, Zach Harrison, Derrick Hall, Andre Carter, Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Dylan Horton, Tyrus Wheat and Ali Gaye didn’t run here.

EDGE drills

It’s the wave drill up first with Ade Ade kicking things off. He ran around well enough, little bit tighter than some of these guys but he’s +280lbs.

Despite the NFL Network hyping this class up — I don’t think this group has run particularly well and they don’t look like that athletic in the initial wave drills.

Will McDonald is the first person to do the wave and look somewhat electric. He’s been suffering with illness. Tuli Tuipulotu looked sharp and Lukas Van Ness was incredibly smooth. He just looked like a natural athlete. Keion White looked a bit stiff but again he’s a bigger guy.

Onto the four-bag drill. Ade Ade moved in and out quickly enough to keep his momentum going.

The NFL Network are talking about Nolan Smith like his performance was a big surprise. He’s one of the best SPARQ testers ever. Why is it such a big deal? He’s a tweener — that’s the more pressing issue.

Ali Gaye did an excellent job on the four-bag drill. Will McDonald was very quick and athletic as expected.

Myles Murphy apparently tweaked a hamstring and isn’t doing anything today.

I don’t want to be mean but Mike Morris just looks like a big lump out there today.

Tuli Tuipulotu just looks like a ball of power and quickness. Keion White was good in the four-bag and flashed athleticism. Byron Young’s rep was very hesitant and the coaches yelled at him to be quicker.

Will McDonald doesn’t look 100% but the fact he’s out there working despite being ill is going to impress teams more than the players ‘protecting themselves’ this week by not doing anything.

Tuli Tuipulotu showed great power slapping the bags in the pass rush bag drill. He is looking sharp here. Keion White also had an impressive rep, as did Lukas Van Ness and Byron Young.

Onto the run and club through the bags. Another good rep from Ade Ade who is having a day. Yaya Diaby — who again, had a very good Senior Bowl — looked great in this drill.

Isaiah McGuire had a really good rep. He’s an underrated player who showed well in the SEC. Another fantastic rep from Tuli Tuipulotu who has been one of the stars of the on-field drills.

Keion White, like Moro Ojomo earlier, just looks like an absolute beast. Big but with no bad weight. The coaches liked Byron Young’s rep.

Ade Ade did the linebacker drills at +280lbs and didn’t look out of place. Incredible.

D-line broad jumps

Byron Young (TEN): 11-0
Will McDonald IV: 11-0
Nolan Smith: 10-8
Derick Hall: 10-7
Isaiah Land: 10-6
BJ Ojulari: 10-6
Adetomiwa Adebawore: 10-5
Isaiah Foskey: 10-5
Robert Beal Jr.: 10-3
Isaiah McGuire: 10-2
Habakkuk Baldonado: 10-0
YaYa Diaby: 10-0
Ikenna Enechukwu: 10-0
Dylan Horton: 10-0
Lukas Van Ness: 9-10
Keion White: 9-9
Tyrus Wheat: 9-5
K.J. Henry: 9-4
Mike Morris: 9-2
Andre Carter: 9-1

D-line vertical jumps

Nolan Smith — 41.5
Byron Young — 38
Adetomiwa Adebawore — 37.5
Yaya Diaby — 37
Isaiah McGuire — 36.5
Will McDonald — 36
Nick Hampton — 35.5
Habakkuk Baldonado — 35
Jose Ramirez — 34.5
Isaiah Land — 34.5
Isaiah Foskey — 34
Keion White — 34
Dylan Horton — 34
Derick Hall — 33.5
Ochaun Mathis — 33.5
Tavius Robinson — 33.5
Brenton Cox — 33
BJ Ojulari — 32.5
DJ Johnson — 32
KJ Henry — 31.5
Lukas Van Ness — 31
Andre Carter — 30
Robert Beal — 30
Mike Morris — 28.5
Tyrus Wheat — 28.5

D-line official forty times

Nolan Smith — 4.39
Byron Young — 4.43
Robert Beal — 4.48
Adetomiwa Adebawore — 4.49
Yaya Diaby — 4.51
Isaiah Foskey — 4.58
Nick Hampton — 4.58
Lukas Van Ness — 4.58
Isaiah Land — 4.62
KJ Henry — 4.63

Adetomiwa Adebawore running in the 4.4’s is an absolute joke.

Linebacker broad jumps

Yasir Abdullah: 10-9
Jack Campbell: 10-8
Owen Pappoe: 10-6
Jeremy Banks: 10-6
Daiyan Henley: 10-5
Charlie Thomas: 10-4
DeMarvion Overshown: 10-4
Anfernee Orji: 10-2
Dorian Williams: 10
Dee Winters: 9-9
Henry To’oTo’o: 9-8
Shaka Heyward: 9-8
Noah Sewell: 9-7
Micah Baskerville: 9-7
Jalen Graham: 9-4

Linebacker vertical jumps

Anfernee Orji: 38.5
Jack Campbell: 37.5
Jeremy Banks: 37.5
Yasir Abdullah: 36.5
Owen Pappoe: 35.5
Daiyan Henley: 35
Dorian Williams: 33.5
Cam Jones: 33
Noah Sewell: 33
Charlie Thomas: 32.5
Henry To’oTo’o: 32
Micah Baskerville: 31
Shaka Heyward: 31
Dee Winters: 30.5
Jalen Graham 30.5

Linebacker forty times

Same complaint every year. They put edge rushers in the linebacker group and then don’t show the 10-yard splits on the TV. Thankfully, the NFL Network read out Will Anderson’s split and NFL.com are updating with the times.

Yasir Abdullah (1.62) 4.57 & (1.56) 4.53
Will Anderson (1.61) 4.69 & DNR
Jeremy Banks (1.56) 4.74 & 4.59
Jack Campbell (1.59) 4.71 & 4.74
Jalen Graham (1.68) 4.69 & 4.71
Derick Hall (1.62) 4.57 & (1.59) 4.61
Daiyan Henley (1.56) 4.63 & (1.55) 4.67
Nick Herbig (1.59) 4.71 & 4.83
Shaka Heyward (1.60) 4.57 & (1.54) 4.58
D.J. Johnson (1.60) 4.60 & (1.59) 4.55
Andre Jones Jr — pulled up injured
Cam Jones (1.64) 4.76 & (1.62) 4.76
Ochaun Mathis (1.66) 4.87 & (1.64) 4.78
Anfernee Orji (1.57) 4.61 & 4.58
DeMarvion Overshown (1.59) 4.59 & DNR
Owen Pappoe (1.56) 4.50 & 4.46
Lonnie Phelps (1.62) 4.62 & DNR
Drew Sanders DNR
Noah Sewell (1.57) 4.72 & 4.74
Trenton Simpson (1.57) 4.50 & (1.55) 4.53
Charlie Thomas (1.55) 4.58 & 4.57
Henry To’oTo’o (1.61) 4.69 & (1.57) 4.57
Tyrus Wheat (1.62) 4.68 & (1.59) 4.70
Dorian Williams (1.57) 4.54 & (1.54) 4.56
Dee Winters (1.56) 4.58 & 4.57

Drew Sanders did not run a forty which is disappointing. Neither did Andre Carter.

Short shuttle times

Once again, a disappointing number of players took part in the shuttles. Fair play to those who did — but we’re not getting much info here.

EDGE

Jose Ramirez — 4.30
Lukas Van Ness — 4.32
Isaiah Foskey — 4.41
Habakkuk Baldonado — 4.44
Caleb Murphy — 4.45
Colby Wooden — 4.52
Isaiah Land — 4.56
Tavius Robinson — 4.62

DT

Jalen Redmond — 4.51
Dante Stills — 4.61
Zacch Pickens — 4.62
Keeanu Benton — 4.65
D.J. Dale — 4.80
Jerrod Clark — 4.83
Siaki Ika — 4.99
Jaquelin Roy — 5.00
PJ Mustipher — 5.03

Three cone times

Jose Ramirez — 6.95
Lukas Van Ness — 7.02
Habakkuk Baldonado — 7.11
Byron Young (TEN) — 7.19
Isaiah Land — 7.20
Isaiah Foskey — 7.28
Caleb Murphy — 7.28
Isaiah McGuire — 7.39
Colby Wooden — 4.52

Tavius Robinson — 4.62

DT

Jalen Redmond — 7.30
Keeanu Benton — 7.34
Dante Stills — 7.38
Zacch Pickens — 7.45
Gervon Dexter — 7.50
Jerrod Clark — 7.60
Tyler Lacy — 7.60
Byron Young (ALA) — 7.68
D.J. Dale — 7.69
Siaki Ika — 7.80
PJ Mustipher — 8.01
Jaquelin Roy — 8.01

Linebacker drills

I haven’t seen anything yet to make Will Anderson standout athletically.

Jack Campbell looks about my age but moved in and out opf the bags nicely. Derick Hall looks like a beast but there’s some stiffness. Daiyan Henley was very quick around the bags — no wasted movement, shifted around the drill nicely.

In the change of direction drills, I don’t really know why they’ve got Will Anderson doing all this. Why is he doing linebacker drills and Nolan Smith was with the edge rushers? It’s ridiculous. We need to see Anderson doing the pass rush drills, not running around in space. Daiyan Henley looks like a natural moving around and changing direction.

The NFL Network is barely showing any of the LB drills. And when they finally get to the pass rush bags, they go to commercial when Will Anderson does his rep. They eventually showed his two reps. He looks fine. Nothing more, nothing less.

Drew Sanders showed quickness and aggression on his reps. He looked fantastic on the change of direction drill — shifting around the field with ease.

Official linebacker forty times

Owen Pappoe — 4.39
Trenton Simpson — 4.43
Will Anderson — 4.60
Yasir Abdullah — 4.47
Dorian Williams — 4.49
Dee Winters — 4.49
D.J. Johnson — 4.49
Charlie Thomas — 4.53
Anfernee Orji — 4.53
Jeremy Banks — 4.53
Shaka Heyward — 4.53
Daiyan Henley — 4.54
Derick Hall — 4.55
Lonnie Phelps — 4.55
DeMarvion Overshown — 4.56
Henry To’oTo’o — 4.62
Noah Sewell — 4.62
Jalen Graham — 4.64
Jack Campbell — 4.65
Tyrus Wheat — 4.65
Cam Jones — 4.69

I’m ending the live blog now with the NFL Network no longer showing drills.

I will have some thoughts in a recap post coming shortly. Stay tuned.

353 Responses to “Live Blog: Combine day one (DL, LB)”

  1. Glor says:

    Thanks Rob and Robbie!

  2. Kuya says:

    Looking forward to the coverage. Thanks, Rob and Robbie!

  3. cha says:

    Adam Schefter
    @AdamSchefter
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    Georgia DT Jalen Carter is back at the combine in Indianapolis to finish his interviews, measurements and other activities, per source.

    • Peter says:

      I’m almost out of thoughts on this but after doing my usual hawks round up while making dinner last night. Stacy and bump. Locked on hawks. A few others….one thing that struck me is the absolute hard wringing, excuse making for a player who isn’t even on the team. That prior to yesterday and moving forward no one knows if Seattle would draft him -or- if he would even be available.

      It’s kind of gross the bandwidth spent on a player that I guess most ( all?) Talking heads think is a nailed on lock for Seattle to draft him they already went out and bought custom “Carter,” jerseys like he’s a borderline ring of fame candidate.

      Folks….there are literally by my count a half dozen dlinemen that based on size, scheme, and other factors that can improve the dline not counting possible free agents and none of them as far as I can tell are doing windsprints for cardio let alone all the other possible b.s Carter may be part of….

      Why are people playing a game of solo “twister,” contorting themselves in pretzels to justify a player this hard?

      I’d get it and kind of hate it if he was already a hawk. But he’s not.

      • Rob Staton says:

        It’s staggering

        No idea what’s going on

        • Matt says:

          Russ being weird. End of the world to these people.

          Absolute brazen behavior resulting in the actual death of people. “What’s the big deal? He’s just a kid.”

          Pardon my language…that’s fucking mind blowing to me. We are talking about two young people dying and they are treating this like Carter shoplifted a snickers bar at 7/11. Much of our local sports media has exposed their rot over the last year. The moral preening they are willing to put on top of everything while doing the “no biggie” routine…I can’t stand it.

          • IDhawk says:

            💯

          • cha says:

            Remember when Salk implied that Russ was on the juice because his finger recovery was going so well?

          • Rob Staton says:

            I think people are trying so hard to appear ’empathetic’ that they’re actually sounding pathetic

          • Big D says:

            Carter is like most people in their early twenties…a complete dumbshit. People remember how stupid they were at his age and by dismissing his behavior they dismiss their own. It’s comforting. Russell by most accounts is a good person. People see him setting a standard as a husband, father, and a man that they know they themselves do not live up to and want to tear him down for it. It’s comforting.

      • cha says:

        Sometimes I think I overthink things.

        Their viewpoint could be as simple as “Geno Smith good, Run Defense bad. Sign Geno, draft Carter. Job done.”

        And it is so terribly hard to break from that thinking you’ll do anything to shoehorn it into your reasoning.

        • Peter says:

          You’re not wrong. Geno is good. Run defense is bad.

          But this is a whole level of weird.

          Like I said it’s as if they are explaining away behavior from an existing player which I get why fans do that.

          Total “what if,” but what if Carter already wasn’t on the board simply because they were going to continue with the all ball players?

      • Katal says:

        After Russ was gone last year but before Deshaun Watson was traded to the Browns, there was speculation he could end up a Hawk. I remember the 710 afternoon show making excuses for Watson – he hasn’t been convicted, some women settled with him maybe that means the charges were overblown, etc – only for them to drop the Saint Deshaun act once he joined Cleveland. It’s pretty gross how much water the media will carry even for players who may potentially play here.

        • Peter says:

          I do remember all that when it was believed Seattle would be a Watson landing spot.

          • Rob Staton says:

            Daniel Jeremiah:

            “There is expectation around the league Deshaun Watson will be traded to the Seahawks”

            Great work DJ

            • Big Mike says:

              What I want to know, and no offense to any of you, but why in the hell do you listen to these idiots? Can’t you get the same info from KJR without the flagship station slant? I hear Hugh Millen is pretty decent *shrug*.
              Look I don’t live in the Seattle market but I did try listening to 710 via internet on some of my many trips between Vancouver (WA) and Spokane and after 4 or 5 times I’d simply had enough of the stupidity and defense of the Adams trade by Wyman and so on and so forth.

      • Roy Batty says:

        I leave the app as soon as Bump and Stacey come on. Seattle would have already signed Geno to a massive contract, if they were in charge.

        They’re a waste of my time.

      • Madmark says:

        Carter going to be taken somewhere in the 1st but it won’t be Seattle then again at pick 20 they may take him as 2nd chance project. I think they move on.

      • Hebegbs says:

        Agreed Peter. It is complete nonsensical.

  4. Peter says:

    Absolutely stoked that the drillsgot broken up from the bench press.

    There are so may players today I am excited to see what their numbers are like.

    Really have come around on Will Macdonald thus far. But there are some big boys: mazi smith, keion white, ade ade, benton, and quite a few more I hope have great results.

    Will Anderson of course.

    I’ve been tinkering with a move up in the draft for a qb but if somehow some way Anderson gets to Seattle and any of the big(ger) three qbs falls perhaps the move up is a less costly 20 plus 37 move up to snag a qb.

    Still think qb is the move at five if possible. I just can’t see John hanging his hat as future gm beyond Pete with a 40 million dollar 33-34 year old qb.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I worry that most still won’t bother with the bench press and will simply go home because it’s on the last day

      It should’ve been replaced by a powerball toss ages ago anyway

      • Peter says:

        I “like” the bench as a very rough guide to effort applied in a gym.

        Totally agree that the powerball toss is more instructive and probably safer.

        I follow pro days fairly well as I can. But you would know better than me. Are players doing strength testing at prodays?

        At least a guy like Ade Ade has verifiable gym proof that he’s rocked up.

  5. no frickin clue says:

    Rob – any thoughts on Grimsby making the quarterfinals of the FA Cup? Per an article in The Athletic, the owners of the club seem really down-to-earth and about as far removed from a guy like Daniel Snyder as one could find.

    Plus a shout-out of thanks for everything you and Robbie are doing around the combine. It’s like drinking out of a firehose. 🙂

  6. Volume12 says:

    Zach Harrison w/ 36″ arms is crazy!

    Why is Michigan EDGE Mike Morris not getting more love from the media? Pretty rare traits for a guy w/ his size.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Because Mike Morris picks and chooses when he can be arsed on the field

      • Steve Nelsen says:

        I saw Mike Morris interviewed with Seattle and was wondering if you had watched him Rob. Do you think he can play 5-tech and set a strong edge?

        • Rob Staton says:

          He can play five technique but he goes through the motions too much. Played his arse off against Michigan State and picks and chooses in other games when to bring it. Inconsistent effort

          • PatrickH says:

            Wasn’t he injured for the first 2 years? Perhaps he was still recovering or being careful with his body in his last year with Michigan.

  7. Adam says:

    Does anyone know if combine measurements/results are easily accessible anywhere? I’m seeing an occasional bit of info on Twitter, but I can’t find a repository with all the information.

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      It sure does. I have been dismissive of the possibility that they would pursue Geno because I can’t figure out how they deal with their cap if they “take all their pain this year” on the Brady contract like they have said they will. But, this sure sounds like they don’t see their cap problems as a barrier so I am going to keep an open mind from here on out.

      • Rob Staton says:

        But the point is — whether they take the pain from the Brady deal or not is irrelevant to their ability to sign Geno.

        Whether they take the Brady pain or not, they were still going to need to re-work contracts to get under the cap.

        So they are going to do that anyway, to make space.

        The point on Brady is they want his cap hit to come off the books now so they are not pushing even more onto the credit card next year

        Either way, if they want Geno they can make a move. And their coaching choices at OC and QB coach couldn’t be any more obvious

    • cha says:

      Jeremy Fowler
      @JFowlerESPN
      ·
      47m
      #Bucs are expected to release tight end Cam Brate in the coming days, per source. Brate, who played nine seasons in Tampa, has a cap hit of around $5 million. A good run with 273 catches and 33 touchdowns.

  8. Thomas says:

    Rob,

    Who are your surprise picks at 5? A lot comes down to how the Seahawks evaluate Young’s injury potential. If they think it’s too risky (as I do) then who do you pick if Anderson and the other three QBs are gone?

    Probably a trade back. But after that, who?

    • Peter says:

      If. If the bigger qbs are gone but Anderson is there I could see both Pete and John stoked on him at five.

      The “seahawks surprise,” to me is a break from their type for Kancey. A multi spot player that has very very good production.

      • no frickin clue says:

        My Seahawks surprise would be trading out of #5, maybe with Carolina, followed by a 2nd small trade down into the teens, and then selecting Bijan Robinson. Then watch Twitter explode over the lack of value from a RB in round 1.

        The argument in favor: any team having to defend a running game with K9 and Bijan is going to take pressure off of our QB, no matter who it is.

        I’d still rather get a QB if Pete and John are confident that they’ve found their guy – but what if they don’t have confidence?

        If Anderson, Stroud, Levis and Richardson were all gone after the 4th pick, I could see the Hawks enabling someone in love with Bryce Young to trade up to #5 and then acquiring more 2nd round picks.

        • Hawksorhiking? says:

          We have so much 2023 capital, I’d rather have 2024 picks. You can only hold onto so many rookies per season.

        • DJ 1/2 way says:

          “If Anderson, Stroud, Levis and Richardson were all gone after the 4th pick….”

          This is the worst case scenario in my opinion. I think you have to pick Young and make it work with a tiny QB. The advantage is you may not need a bridge QB and thus save some $ on the cap. Also, maybe you take that giant tackle at 20, slide the RT to guard and spend the money saved on Geno on a FA center so the petite QB is better protected.

  9. Matt says:

    The contrast between Will Anderson and Jalen Carter is truly shocking. Carter better hope none of his interviews follow that guy.

    • Roy Batty says:

      The PFT interviews with the defensive linemen are a nice watch.

      • Rob Staton says:

        I’ve just watched the Tyree Wilson one

        Liked it but take issue with one thing he said. He said he’s fully healthy enough to run and do everything at the combine but ‘because he’s a competitor’ he’s going to wait until pro-day ‘to get the best times’

        Errrr… that’s not competing pal

  10. ErickV says:

    Richardson’s met with Colts, Panthers, and Raiders already. Sorry for my ignorance but do the players meet with all 32 teams at the Combine or is it the teams that choose to talk to specific players ?

  11. DK says:

    The more I think about it, I really think Richardson and Levis are the top QBs on Schneider’s board. Those two played their backsides off with weaker supporting casts and if it weren’t for them, I do t see Kentucky and Florida winning as many games as they did.

    Quick character note on Anthony Richardson, prior to last season he asked for people to stop using the AR-15 nickname, because of it’s association with the assault rifle and it’s use in mass shootings. Just a little insight into his thinking that I remembered.

    • TomLPDX says:

      That’s a nice nugget of information. Glad he was sensitive to it.

    • BK26 says:

      I’ve been mentioning it too. Tells me that he’s aware he has a platform too. I also read that he wanted to be a fire fighter before football was a legit option so he can go back home and help his community. I have no doubts on his character.

    • God of Thunder says:

      Although as we know AR has nothing to do with “assault rifle”

  12. Peter says:

    Rob that stat about Richardson….!!!….

    • cha says:

      Field Yates’ producer: So only your head and shoulders will be on camera. See if you can work your hands into the shot. Jazz hands if you have to!

  13. Volume12 says:

    Man. I really, really like Luke Musgrave. His size jumps off the screen. Easy separator/good route runner, think he’ll be a 4.6 guy, some of the softest hands I’ve seen so far and that includes the WRs in this class. Not a great blocker, but his potential is through the roof.

    Might be alone in this, but if the TEs are there @ 20 I’d consider taking 1. BPA from 1 of the best position groups in this class. No different than taking Breece or K9 last year

    • Blitzy the Clown says:

      He looks like a true joker. A real x factor that could give DCs matchup nightmares

    • Madmark says:

      Pick 38 the Saints keep stealing my WR so I took a different and Darnell Washington TE Georgia he’s a monster road grader.

      • cha says:

        A blocking TE in the 2nd round? Really?

        • Madmark says:

          He had 27 catches and that’s what Travis Kelce had at Cincinnati before He was drafted.

          • cha says:

            Oh I see. You just mentioned road-grader and I went off that.

            For the record, Kelce went a full round later. And I cannot see Kelce traits in him. At all.

            If the Seahawks draft him there and I’m wrong, hallelujah.

            • Madmark says:

              I actually draft Kelce in 2013 to replace Zach Miller but Seattle took Christian Michael and the very next pick Kansas took Kelce. I think about what if we took him and didn’t do the Jimmy Graham trade.

        • Ben says:

          They paid $8m for a blocking TE last offseason, so nothing would surprise me. That said, Washington is much more athletic than to just be a blocking TE. Not sure if he got to showcase all of his abilities last season with Bowers basically handling the receiving for Georgia’s TE. Agree with you that a 2nd round pick for him would be a bit of a reach

          • Sean says:

            I worry how much damage Washington can do between the 20’s. Should be a great red zone guy who can also provide juice in the run game as a blocker, just not sure he is fluid enough to make a ton happen in the middle of the field as a receiver.

  14. Scot04 says:

    Will Mcdonald, Zach Harrison, Felix Anduke-Uzomah all with good measurements from Daniel Jeremiah. Zach Harrison 36 1/4 inch arms.

    • Volume12 says:

      IDK if its official but I saw 1 of the Iowa reporters say Lukas Van Ness was 6’5, 272, 34″ arms, 84″ wingspan.

  15. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Ah the Combine. Finally!

    Jim Nagy @JimNagy_SB

    Looking Combine stud from today’s DL workout?

    If Northwestern’s Adetomiwa Adebawore hits all marks reported last summer in “Feldman’s Freak List”, he will have better numbers in every category than last year’s entire DT class. 👀

    BP: 30 reps
    VJ: 37.5
    BJ: 10-5
    SS: 4.05
    3C: 6.90

    Better numbers in every category than the entire 2022 DT class. A class that included super freak Jordan Davis.

    Those agility numbers alone are staggering for someone weighing 280+lbs.

    I am officially pounding the table for Ade Ade with the 37th pick.

  16. Scot04 says:

    CBS Sports now has us taking Kancey at #5, Stroud at #8. SMH
    Carter drops to #17. Richardson, Young, Levis go 1-3.
    Will be interesting to see all the new changes as things develop and after todays measurements for DT’s.

  17. Hoggs41 says:

    People keep saying we have Geno. Last I checked he is still a free agent. I agree perfect scenario is trading back to 9 and taking him.

    • GrittyHawk says:

      I just don’t see how it makes any sense to trade back if Richardson is “the guy”. Just take him at 5. It’s not worth the risk that one of the many, many QB-needy teams will grab him, especially when we already have 3 other top-60 picks.

  18. Elliott says:

    Any consideration for moving Zach Harrison up your board? I’ve heard he’s an athletic freak and he seems to be of the same mold as Tyree Wilson, maybe a touch more twitch. Perhaps he could be an alternative at #20 or #38 depending on testing? I’ve only watched him play in the Michigan and Georgia games this year but caught some glimpses of him when I was watching Tyreke Smith stuff post draft and got the feel he has markedly improved his game since the 21 season.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Zach Harrison will test very well. He was an elite high school athlete

      But he is so stiff trying to bend the arc — and at his position, that matters a lot

      • Spectator says:

        As a 3-4 end, does it matter as much? He also seems well large for a OLB. A lot different player physique to say Taylor and Owosu.

  19. Sneekes says:

    Watching the Combine is doing my head in already: third discussion in an hour on Daniel Jones contract.

    • Roy Batty says:

      All the GMs and coaches in one place will do that to the broadcast. All the gossip, speculation and outright guesses will be on full display through Sunday.

  20. JD says:

    Rob thank you for the constant excellent coverage. It is incredibly appreciated.

    My strong preference is QB at 5 with Stroud, Levis and Richardson the priorities. If those 3 go and Will Anderson is available, I think it is a difficult decision between him and Bryce Young.

    But I’m more looking now towards what we do at #20. I think it has to be defense unless Bijan or Mayer are falling. My top choices at #20 for BPA defense would be Will McDonald, Drew Sanders, Calijah Kancey and Keion White. All seem to be high impact worthy defensive options.

    My hope is for a lot of CB’s and OL to go between 5 and 20 and that seems probable.

    Does anyone else have someone they are hoping for at #20?

    • Madmark says:

      Seattle has to get ILB especially for new defense. I know everyone will say I’m reaching but Drew Sanders is the best LB in this class. Look at Rob’s big board after him the talent drops to 4th round. To me it seem fitting that the first picks are to replace the 2 guys we lost last year. QB, Russel Wilson is replaced Anthony Richardson and Bobby Wagner with Drew Sanders. He’s fast and he had 9 sacks.

      • MountainHawker says:

        You’re focusing on need. Plenty of good lb’s available in free agency

  21. Ashish says:

    Dang it watch the video they are talking about something Rob mentioned in Dec 2022. Thanks Rob.
    https://www.nfl.com/news/anthony-richardson-landing-spots-which-nfl-team-is-most-likely-to-draft-toolsy-q

  22. Steve Nelsen says:

    I was driving this morning and heard Bump and Stacy talking about Jalen Carter. I got so frustrated I had to text them.

    Guys, I think you need to stop talking about Jalen Carter because your takes are terrible. “He won’t fall in the draft.” Wrong. And a terrible take. “The NFL overlooks some things for talent.” Terrible take. “He provides a service.” Terrible take.

    The story is A young man with prior character concerns who was definitely on Seattle’s radar with pick 5 made some stupid decisions that bring his maturity into question. Given the statements from Pete and John yesterday about the importance of character, is he too big a risk for Seattle to take at 5? The question isn’t whether he is a criminal. The question Is he another Malik McDowell?

    • Roy Batty says:

      If I’m out doing stupid crap with friends and something goes terribly wrong, I don’t leave them for dead.

      The guy is all things un-Seahawky.

    • JimQ says:

      I think the problem with Carter isn’t just maturity but “entitlement”. He thinks he’s regarded so highly by the medias, that he feels like his s*it doesn’t stink. Why not take snaps off during games and practices and put forth much effort when you are already a draft “TOP 3 pick “LOCK” in the draft”, per the medias? His total lack of judgement, his attitude, his lack of love of the game and also potential alcohol/drug problems may be evident.
      I wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole.

  23. Brett says:

    What’s a good source for seeing what players the Seahawks are interviewing at the combine?

  24. Rushless pass says:

    Kancey 30 5/8” arms. Damn

    • Roy Batty says:

      Suddenly I’m making T-Rex sounds in my head.

      • clbradley17 says:

        That’s bad. No way we draft him with those short arms. Where are you finding current or live updated measurements? I tried looking and can’t find any info like that.

        • Blitzy the Clown says:

          Refresh the article. Rob’s posting them

          • clbradley17 says:

            Thanks. Good news on Mazi Smith’s long arms. Maybe he’ll be available for us at 20 or 38 if we draft QB or Anderson with #5.

  25. Cheese22 says:

    News about Will McDonald:
    He’s an animal! Not that anyone didn’t know that already, but he’s proving it again at the combine. He reportedly has lost several pounds recently due to illness. As late as Tuesday night, he had a fever as high as 104! But, he insists on doing all the drills today. Wow!

  26. Rob Staton says:

    I have added measurements to the article

    Keep refreshing for updates on the 40’s

  27. Blitzy the Clown says:

    👀 Mazi Smith with decent arm length. I guess they just look short next to his squat 323 lb frame.

  28. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Strong 40 for Bresee

  29. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Carroll sighting

  30. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Kancey smokin’ 4.78

    But man, those arms…

  31. Awm says:

    Maxi Smith should be high on the Hawks board. Is 20 to high? I fear he’s already gone at 38….

    • Peter says:

      20 is perfect. Need/bpa if he’s there. Seattle needs to get off the old man road Dawgs moving forward.

  32. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I feared Bryan Bresee would have sub-33 inch arms at that is proven to be true

    It should take him off Seattle’s board, and I’m in favor of that

  33. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Zacch Pickens — 9-8

    Pickens ran a sub 5 second 40 too (4.96 I think)

  34. Blitzy the Clown says:

    John Schneider on NFL Network right now

    • Bballin says:

      All speculation but seems like hawks are preparing for him to be more of the “face” of the team as Pete is likely to retire in next few years.

  35. Andrew says:

    @Rob, great bews on Mazi Smith arm length, first rd lock as you stated a while back. Cheer

  36. Zane says:

    Rob, any thoughts on Zach Harrison? Those arms are nuts; his highlights (strip sacks for days) seem impressive too.

  37. clbradley17 says:

    Rob. Any measurements for Jalen Redmond? He’s showing up good on the explosive tests of Broad and vert. – so far leading the DTs.

  38. DK says:

    Rob, should we be paying attention to the 10-yard split for the D-linemen? If so can you remind us what it is.

  39. Matty B says:

    Is John Schneider auditioning for the new owners? Is he auditioning for a new job with another team? Is he trying to get his face out there as much as Pete does so he can have more leverage in Jody’s eyes…?

    Something is going on here as Schneider’s media uptick is beyond notable compared with the past decade of offseasons.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Agreed, there’s a reason for this

      • Peter says:

        John is the future of this team if he kills this draft.

        • Roy Batty says:

          When your team has the #5 & 20, plus has no current QB under contract, I would think you would be called on by any and all media. Especially after proving everyone wrong on trading away Russ.

      • Wilson502 says:

        If that’s the case, a bold move to move up and get the QB of the future should be a serious consideration. I just don’t like the idea of staying at 5 and sending a hope and a prayer that your guy is there. Make it happen by moving up to 1 or 3.

    • Madmark says:

      I imagine if JS hits the draft again like he did last year and media attention. General manger of the year.

  40. Volume12 says:

    Zacch Pickens is having a fantastic combine. He’s moving

  41. Rob Staton says:

    Loads of measurements updated in the live blog

    Keep refreshing

  42. Brett says:

    Mazi Smith isn’t doing any testing or drills. Tweaked his hamstring. Bummer.

  43. Seattle Person says:

    A little disappointing that Gervon Dexter’s arms are only around 32 inches. But great news that Bryon Young (Alabama) has great length.

    • DarrinM says:

      B Young (Tenn) arms at Sr bowl were 32 1/8. How the heck did he grow them that much in a month?

  44. Brett says:

    Henley at 225 worries me a little. Excellent coverage LB but how will he hold up against the run?

    • Seattle Person says:

      Yeah…But those 33 inch arms are a positive. You can always gain weight but can’t grow arms…

  45. SoCal12 says:

    Lotta long bois with plus-33 inch arms. At least there seems to be good depth at this position so we can stock up with our capital.

  46. Ben says:

    4.67 official 40 for Kancey. Those arms though…Do we know anyone that succeeded with arms that’re that short?

  47. Rob Staton says:

    Full vertical and broad jump numbers now updated for the DT’s on the live blog

    Keep refreshing

  48. Peter says:

    With some of these performances I’m very happy to shown wrong a bit. Breese for one.

    Tyree Wilson low grade loser of the combine. Come on man….

    • Peter says:

      Getting stoked to look at the “the other Jalen,” redmond. Some very nice numbers.

  49. Madmark says:

    Byron Young wow he has the build for RDE spot. Really interested in movement drills.

  50. Matt says:

    Might be overkill, but I’d be pretty excited about Mazi Smith @ 20 and Benton @ 37. I feel very strongly that both will be good players. Don’t expect either to be a superstar, but again, a lot of faith those are good players, ready to go right now.

    • Peter says:

      Not overkill for me. I’ve been thinking two of the big boys between 20-52 for awhile.

      • Matt says:

        With picks 20-100; I’m comfortable settling in on good football players. They need the athletic traits but if we walk away with two DL, G/C, and solid LBer – I’ll be happy.

        Let’s hit the homerun at 5.

        • Peter says:

          More reason why all this no qb at #5 talking silly.

          Homerun. Lottery ticket. Whatever term. Then use the rest of the picks to keep building on last year.

    • Sean says:

      Smith does some nice things, but not sure about taking a DT top 20 who has limited pass rush skills.

      • Peter says:

        Yeah I see that. But when you’re run defense is nearly the worst in the league but your edge, olb rushers can almost be very good you need, need, need, that guy to be good not just a big chunky boy.

  51. HawkFan907 says:

    Nolan Smith with a 41.5″ vert! I knew he was going to test well, but that is insane.

  52. Kuya says:

    Zacch Pickens totally seems ideal for Seahawk inside/out DL
    6’4″ 291lbs
    34 3/8″ arms
    10 3/8″ hands
    9-8 broad
    30.5″ vert
    1.74 split
    4.96 40

  53. MountainHawker says:

    Boy Murphy has tiny hands

  54. Chase says:

    Did JS say anything worthwhile when he was on?

  55. samprassultanofswat says:

    Someone mentioned that John Schneider is doing more interviews. Makes you wonder why.

  56. Palatypus says:

    I told you Keanu Benton was going to rip up the drills.

  57. cha says:

    Looks like Arizona wants to move down with a QB hungry team. If the Bears trade down to #4, with the top-three QB’s going off the board then potentially Will Anderson, that would possibly be a worst case scenario for Seattle.

    I’m assuming you mean Bryce Young is left at #5 ?

    • Rob Staton says:

      Chortle

      But actually, it’s possible that is right

      • cha says:

        I can live with Young just fine.

        I just thought you mean JS’s top-3 QBs by profile.

        • Wilson502 says:

          Meh, I don’t want to deal with another short QB for a decade. We already did this song and dance with Russ. If AZ and CHI are looking to move down SEA should be ALL OVER that and make the move up to #3 or #1 so they aren’t left hanging when the music stops.

          • Thomas Wells says:

            The song and dance got us a Super Bowl win and the most successful decade in team history. If young is Wilson sign me up

            • Wilson502 says:

              Wilson has a thicker frame than Bryce Young does. While similar in height, Russ had the advantage of large hands and a thicker frame. I like most people on SDB want a taller QB that can actually see over his OL. Weve seen guys smaller framed guys like Tua and Kyler Murray deal with injury issues which most people fear with Bryce Young ((including myself).

            • Wilson502 says:

              Also, Russ rode on the coat tails of the prime years of the LOB and Lynch. We dont have anything remotely close to resembling that now.

    • Peter says:

      I’m trying not to be too worried. I think some team *indy, cough* will rate young much higher than say richardson.

      • SoCal12 says:

        There’s a possible Will Anderson scenario here if let’s say Carolina move up for #1 and then Las Vegas moves up to #3.

        Carolina – Stroud
        Houston – Young
        Vegas – Richardson
        Indy – Levis
        Seattle – Anderson

        Not exactly counting on it, but I feel like it’s plausible and I’m still not too worried about an Arizona trade down.

      • Big Mike says:

        Agree Peter tho I wouldn’t be sad if JS traded up.

    • Wilson502 says:

      Seattle should just bite the damn bullet and move up to #3 or #1 so they can guarantee they get their QB. It’s just too risky to stay at 5 and potentially not get the QB of the future. Not getting a QB out of the RW trade is a massive failure

    • Michael Gustafson says:

      If the last QB is on the board at 5, could it also be a positive? As in every QB-needy team would have one more chance to trade up – could be a high-leverage situation. Or if the right QB falls, the Hawks could snag him.

  58. HOUSE says:

    How are Myles Murphy’s hands so small compared to everyone else’s?

  59. HOUSE says:

    Will McDonald Pro comp on NFL network was Bruce Irvin… 🤔

  60. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Let’s go Ade Ade!

  61. Brett says:

    Good lord Ade Ade was moving on his 40.

  62. MountainHawker says:

    Holy shit Ade. Not sure he lasts to 20

  63. dand393 says:

    Ade ade with a 4.54 40 time wow

  64. Blitzy the Clown says:

    1.61s 10 yard split for Ade Ade at 281 is elite

  65. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Wow this second DL group is quick

  66. Rob Staton says:

    Jeremiah saying great time for Isaiah Foskey

    It was not a great time

    • Roy Batty says:

      What is with that guy?

      He used to be good, did his research and gave decent opinions. Now he’s just an empty suit talking into a mic.

  67. MountainHawker says:

    Rob’s Ade interview about to get a lot of views lmao. Give me Richardson at 5 and Ade at 20 please.

  68. DJ 1/2 way says:

    Is “arm length” including the hand? Do they measure from the shoulder to the finger tip?

    This is the correct procedure for basketball because the figer tips are important in that game. With NFL lineman they push with the palm mainly. If so, a guy with short fingers is disadvantaged with this measure.

    The measure to the finger tip is important for tipped passes, but maybe not as important for the push.

  69. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Nolan Smith 👀 wow that’s fast at 238lbs

    4.44/1.52 is just amazing

  70. MountainHawker says:

    Nolan Smith’s get off is freaking nuts

    • Cheese22 says:

      And Tyree Wilson looks like the last guy on the entire line of scrimmage to get out of his stance, at least that’s how it looks on his tape.

  71. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Byron Young (T) is a freak athlete too

    This second DL group is LOADED

    • There’s more DL talent in this draft than the average Joe thinks. Jalen Carter’s stock getting worse every day.

      • Peter says:

        Been harping on this for a while.

        Watched a ton of dline tape this year. Lots, and I’m not being hyperbolic, of guys have caught my attention, provide tremendous value, and don’t “need” to be drafted at five, that I think are as good are can be as good as Carter is supposed to be.

  72. Volume12 says:

    Ade Ade is showing some special athleticism. Blown away by that combined w/ his size & length.

  73. SoCal12 says:

    Lukas Van Ness faster than I expected. Thought he looked kinda slow on tape.

  74. MountainHawker says:

    Man I don’t know if it’s because I’ve got the draft bug but seeing some of these guys is getting me hyped! Byron Young has every measurable you could want and he was movinnnn

  75. Hoggs41 says:

    Suprised by Tuli’s weight. He has always been listed at 292.

    • Ben says:

      It makes him being an edge rusher with the ability to kick in (in college) make more sense now.

  76. Dregur says:

    Is Keion White running any of the drills? Not sure if he was in the DL or DE group.

  77. Rob Staton says:

    Poor times for Mike Morris

    Just wasn’t that impressed watching him

    • Blitzy the Clown says:

      Thought the same. Also didn’t like his body language. Seems like a broody sort

  78. Steve Nelsen says:

    I have been wondering about the possibility of trading back as the number of Day 2/3 targets has been growing. I’m still OK with any of the QBs or the Alabama edge at 5. But, if they trade back a bit because they don’t like all the QBs, I’ll be fine with that.

    I was thinking a trade back from 20 was more likely because there might have been only a few players worth picking and they could be gone. But, today has me thinking some of the names from 35-45 might actually be in play at 20.

    I would love to have enough 3rd/4th round picks to get LB Henley, CB Brents and S Skinner. Plus WR Downs in 2nd.

  79. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I thought Tuli looked pretty good moving

  80. MountainHawker says:

    NFL network reporting Nolan Smith was pissed with his time because he wasn’t going full speed and has been training for 4.3’s.

    • MountainHawker says:

      I think the guys sitting out because they think their draft spot is safe made a poor decision

  81. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Oh yeah Ade Ade just destroyed the foot bag drill

  82. Trevor says:

    How can any prospect say they are competitive and then come to the combine and not run and compete? Unless they have an injury those guys would have a mark against them in my book.

    I want guys like Nolan Smith who say they are competitors and then come in a compete.

    Really disappointing how many guys are not competing and I don’t care if it is advice from agents etc.

    • MountainHawker says:

      Absolutely. Seeing Ade’s numbers today has me hyped. His play at the senior bowl was great. Interview was great. I’ll take that over the non tester hype bois every day of the week

      • Trevor says:

        He really made money by dominating at the Senior Bowl and again today. Really like him a lot. Wonder how he is as a scheme fit for the Hawks.

        • Peter says:

          I agree with the testing. You’re already here. You’re going to have to run at your proday. Just show out.

          I have a little love for the poor testers. At least their taking their shots.

          And for nflpa president Smith. Give me a break. The combine is just about pushing guys down? Tell that to Ade Ade and a few dt’s that gave themselves draft stock pushes today.

  83. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Mike Morris physically reminds me of Malik McDowell at the combine

  84. Trevor says:

    Kancey will get the headlines for the 40 run but I thought Zack Pickens was the most impressive DT by a pretty wide margins looking at both the testing and drills.

  85. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Will McDonald is such a natural athlete he’s all arms and legs and moves so well

    • Trevor says:

      He moves at a different speed than everyone else it seems. Was the same way at the Senior Bowl. Would have loved to have seen his 40 and 10yd split.

  86. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Low key impressed with Yaya Diaby

    • Peter says:

      I wonder if they’d consider diaby to add to the rotation. He and mafe are very near to each other.

  87. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Tuli continues to impress me

  88. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Ade’s 40 time officially 4.49s/1.61s

    At 281 lbs

  89. Hoggs41 says:

    Nolan Smith seems like as good as a dude as he is an athlete.

  90. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Anyone else see a little Cliff Avril in Yaya Diaby?

  91. MountainHawker says:

    Ade is doing linebacker drills and he looks GREAT doing them 🤣 what is going on. He moves very very well. Very smooth

  92. Trevor says:

    The Anthony Richardson hype train is going full speed and he has not been even done any drills yet. Wait till he puts on a show. That Anthony Richardson going #1 bet is looking better by the day. Sucks as a Hawks fan though because I was really hoping he would be there at 5.

    • Wilson502 says:

      You know the hawks can move up if they really wanted to, they have the draft capital to do it….

    • Bballin says:

      I’m pretty sure rob had a post months ago that this was gonna happen with Anthony Richardson. I think there was a post about him eventually ending up #1 overall.

      Crazy how some media were saying he’s a second round pick a couple weeks ago 😅

    • MountainHawker says:

      He may last. I’ve seen a lot of Young praise regarding his intelligence and knowledge of the game. It’s all stemming from interviews. We’ll see

  93. Volume12 says:

    I’m a big Lukas Van Ness guy but he’s looked smoother than I thought he would. Really impressed by him

  94. Sea Mode says:

    Unable to watch at all today 😢 so I’m very grateful for the live blog, Rob.

    Hoping I can catch some DBs and WRs the next couple days, but things have been crazy.

  95. Rob Staton says:

    Daniel Jeremiah just said Tuipulotu has long arms

    32 1/4 inches

  96. Trevor says:

    Just saw this treat.

    Adetomiwa Adebawore joined elite company at his size and position, becoming just the fourth edge defender since 2003 to weigh over 275 pounds and jump at least 37″ in the vertical.

    🔹 Mario Williams (40.5″ @ 295 lbs)
    🔹 Rashan Gary (38″ @ 277 lbs)
    🔹 J.J. Watt (37″ @ 290 lbs)

    • MountainHawker says:

      I get the feeling he tested out of our reach today.

      • Rob Staton says:

        I’m not sure about that

        A great day but an option at 20

        • MountainHawker says:

          I certainly hope so

        • Group Captain Mandrake says:

          You’ve said a couple times that the draft is really shallow in regard to top end talent. Do you think this affects Seattle’s chances of getting him? In a normal year I can see him lasting to 20 but I would not be surprised to see him go in the teens.

    • Hawk Mock says:

      With the show today that he put on and how well he did at the Senior Bowl, as well as how good he interviews, I just can’t see him being there at 20 anymore. Freaky Deaky that one. Anyone that watches a lot of tape, do the measurables match up with the performance on the field?

      There were good performances today. Should be some good options at 20 and 38.

    • Ben says:

      Holy crap…Mario Williams…That’s absolutely ridiculous.

  97. Trevor says:

    Northwestern EDGE Adetomiwa Adebawore put up an elite combine performance for his weight (282 lbs), earning a 97 athleticism score pending shuttle drills.

    Combine Ranks since 2003 (275+ lbs):

    🔹 4.49 40-yard dash (1st)
    🔹 10′ 5″ broad jump (T-2nd)
    🔹 37.5″ vertical (3rd)

  98. Trevor says:

    Rob that Ade interview is looking like a stroke of genius today and should get a ton of views. Congrats and I hope it helps hilight your amazing work.

    • Ditto. More of the world needs to appreciate the gruntwork that guys like Rob do to pour over tape and ultimately tell the truth about what they see. In a world full of sportswriters who pump out lazy-ass takes and BS mocks that make no sense,it’s a true service to read publicly what most NFL scouts worth their salt are noting privately.

      Sadly, the day will come when some shrewd GM adds Rob to their scouting dept and the blog here runs dry… 🙂

  99. Hawk Finn says:

    So based on what we’ve seen so far, let’s assume (safely) Carter is out of the top 5. Who is the most likely candidate to jump into that range? Is there a fringe guy other than Tyree that could rise?

    • DarrinM says:

      Might be a big jump but Ade’s numbers are freakish. My bet would be Lukas Van Ness. Lot of comparisons to the Bosa’s. He’s probably a smaller version of JJ Watt.

      I’m not counting Carter out of top 5 yet. We’ll see a month from now.

    • DJ 1/2 way says:

      There does not seem to be a top 5 riser from todays action, but there are days to go and somebody from the other groups might do it. Today I think it is the four QBs and the DE from ‘Bama. Let all root for a left tackle, a cornerback or somebody else to have a perfect day and get a headline on ESPN for some number. It likely has to be a 40 yd dash to do it or likely a combination of a few other measurables.

  100. Sean says:

    4.69 unofficial for Will Anderson. Thought he looked slow and almost like he was running through mud.

  101. Hawkdawg says:

    Sewell’s 1.57 10 yard surprises me….

  102. cha says:

    In the change of direction drills, I don’t really know why they’ve got Will Anderson doing all this. Why is he doing linebacker drills and Nolan Smith was with the edge rushers? It’s ridiculous. We need to see Anderson doing the pass rush drills, not running around in space.

    It’s obviously been requested by the Seahawks, as they plan to use him exclusively in coverage.

  103. Volume12 says:

    Great times for Owen Pappoe & Dorian Williams

  104. Trevor says:

    Lukas Van Ness
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 272
    Arm Length: 34
    Hand Size: 11
    40yd:4.58
    10yd split: 1.62
    Vert: 31”
    Broad: 9-10”
    Short Shuttle: 4.32
    3 cone: 7.02

    Nick Bosa
    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 266
    Arm Length: 33
    Hand Size: 10 3/4
    40-Yard Dash: 4.79
    10-Yard Split: 1.55 Sec
    Vertical Jump: 33.5’’
    Broad Jump: 9’ 8’’
    3-Cone Drill:7.1 Sec
    20-Yd Shuttle:4.14 Sec
    Bench Press:29

  105. cha says:

    Did Simpson just miss the bag completely and slap the coach holding the bag?

  106. Palatypus says:

    So, how has your Christmas list changed today?

  107. SoCal12 says:

    With how freaky this frontline class looks it really is looking more and more like the plan is to go QB (if possible) with #5 and then double or even triple dip on a deep D-line class with the rest of the first two days of picks.

  108. Brett says:

    The official 40 times are like 0.1 faster than the initial unofficial times for LBs. Interesting and comforting because the class is already underwhelming.

  109. Gonna be fun to see the QBs go. I think Richardson, Stroud, and Levis will probably lock themselves down as top 4 picks. Carter’s mess has made this harder for us now – feels like we just dropped another draft slot. Time to seriously dig in to whether I can see Bryce Young as our QBOTF at #5. Guy was a lock to be #1 overall not long ago, but I think these bigger QBs are going to show out and make him the clear #4 which means he’s our guy unless we move up to get John’s guy. Maybe Young is JS’s guy anyway???

    If by some miracle Will Anderson is there at 5 though I can’t see us passing on him. Talk about a guy that checks every box. It’s gotta be him or whichever of the top 4 Qbs drop, right?

    • Meaning – if we’re somehow sitting there at #5 in the unlikely situation that Bryce Young and Will Anderson are still there, what do we do? QB value is so hard to pass up, but I would laser my Will Anderson pick to the podium.

      • Wilson502 says:

        Or just avoid the whole situation and move up to 1 or 3 and get the best QB available. You may not get another opportunity like this again. Just sitting at 5 and leaving it to chance one of the QBs other than Young falls to you is a recipe for disappointment.

        • Well yeah, if there’s one QB that JS is locked on and is willing to give up a #20 and 2nd this year to move up a few picks and get him, ok. Or maybe it’s #20 and next year’s first? I think Richardson may be that guy, but damn that would sting.

    • DJ 1/2 way says:

      I think Young could be the best of the four, certainly for the first 4-5 years. His size may impact long term performance, but the cheap rookie deal approach has the team trading or letting him leave after the five year first round contract.

      My 1st pick would have a bigger arm and run better, but Young could be the ultimate game manager. A minature version of Tom Brady. It will be cute to win with a tiny QB.

      • Mini Tom Brady is a good comp. Looks to me like he has that quick release, excellent mechanics, reads the D quickly and, despite his size, can see the field and the windows. He can definitely make the throws. He could be Brees 2.0 Problem is, he could also be a total bust in the wrong situation. We have a young OL that will hopefully get better and better over the next 2 years and that could help.

        Will Anderson has NFL gamewrecker written all over him to my amateur eye. That’s the guy I would take if he’s there at #5. I wouldn’t move up for anyone other than the QB that we are in love with. This is where JS makes (or doesn’t make) his money though.

    • Nick says:

      Great points. Don’t forget Hooker.

  110. Justaguy says:

    Nolan Smith won day 1. Just saying sleeping on him

    • Hawkdawg says:

      Ade for me. Those numbers at that weight are elite. And his drills looked very good.

      • Justaguy says:

        Nol’ did something NOBODY HAS DONE BEFORE. This is HOF potential. Ade is beast and would be outstanding with the 3rd pick… if he lasts that long.

        • MountainHawker says:

          Not to diminish what Smith did because I like him as a prospect, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard of a 280+lb man running a 4.4. They’re both freaks

    • Rob Staton says:

      Nobody is sleeping on Nolan Smith on this blog

      I’ve been saying he’s an elite athlete for a year, been saying he has amazing character for a year

      Nothing about today was a surprise

      And thus — nothing about today should change my grade

      He’s still a tweener and it’s still not obvious where he plays at the next level

  111. Wilson502 says:

    I think u have to move up and get one of the QBs not named Bryce Young. We have the draft capital to move up and make it happen. This opportunity may not come around ever again

    • Wilson502 says:

      This was meant to be a response to PJ in Seattle

      • Got you, my man. I’m belive Bryce Young can be a very good NFL QB. Elite may be a stretch, but the potential is there. All the measurables tell me that he can’t, but he’s got some intangibles that are hard to ignore. He’s small, but hasn’t spent more time injured than anyone else.

        I agree tho that if you are locked on to one guy and you don’t think he’s going to be there at #5, you do what you have to go get him. And you push all your chips in and hope ther river doesn’t bust you.

        • I feel this way too. If you your draft crush isn;t there at #5. trade out with someone desperate and stock up with multiple day two picks in this draft because there is hella meat on that bone.

  112. KD says:

    I’m really only worried about #5 now. The list of players that I would be happy with at #20 is well over a dozen at this point and today added a few more names. Not worried at all. Personally, my favorite at #20 would be Drew Sanders, but you will not hear me complain if it’s Ade Ade, Skinner, Kancey, Mazi, Keion, Bijan, Mayer, Tuli, Jones, Wright, etc

  113. Ishmael says:

    The Carter situation would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic, just unbelievably dumb. I’m amazed some of these guys don’t forget how to breath. On the plus side, it makes him totally undraftable at 5. Anyone still saying he should be taken there deserves no time or consideration. Put a line through Tyree Wilson too. No worries if you want to put your best foot forward at your pro day, but then don’t make a song and dance about being a competitor.

    Always fun to see guys putting on a proper freakshow. Ade Ade and Nolan Smith the obvious highlights, but plenty of juice out there. QB at five, then double dipping on the DL with 20 and one of the second round picks seems a fairly logical approach. I still want Richardson but hard to see him lasting, the ceiling is so ludicrously high.

  114. James says:

    Apologies if already noted, but Will Anderson not athletic? NFL Network just showed a chart comparing Will to Khalil Mack and DeMarcus Lawrence, and Anderson’s numbers were superior in every category. 40 speed is not the key indicator for an Edge. Speed is essential, but it is first step burst combined with power, bend and technique that gets to the QB.

  115. Cameron says:

    Just saw an interview from a reporter there at the combine in Indy. Affiliated with the bears but noted that hes heard Seattle really likes Kancey with their 20th overall pick. Interesting to hear considering the questions about his arm length

  116. EIEIO says:

    After (hopefully) selecting any of the Top 4 QBs at #5, my preferred “defensive” draft picks are: Mazi Smith-DT; Ade-Ade-DE; and Jack Campbell-ILB. They are, “…football players who make “football plays”, to paraphrase Chuck Knox. Alternatively on my list are: Calijah Kennedy, Will McDonald, Tui Tuipulota, Drew Sanders. Why these players? They make us stronger up-the-middle. I want throw-back, enforcer-type players; especially a linebacker to rule the middle…a Levon Kirkland or Brian Urlacher. I believe Jack Campbell fits that role. There’s guys who are faster or test better, but Campbell is no slouch; he makes plays. Mazi Smith is a natural point-man on the defensive line. He meets pretty much all the Seahawk criteria at that position. After watching Ade-Ade at the Senior Bowl and re-watching his interview with Rob, I am convinced he will be an immediate contributor and future Pro-Bowler.

  117. Hawks Fan 0503 says:

    Hey Rob,

    Another great article. Love reading your stuff. I know you mentioned you need to take a closer look at Jack Campbell. He has been a favorite of mine in this class due to his size (6’5″ 249 lbs) He reminds me of Logan Wilson of the Bengals. Then, I heard an interview of him with Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan on NFL network yesterday and I liked him even more. Really knows football and schemes.

    Just read this morning he ran a 6.74 3 cone drill which is insane, especially at his size. Add that to his explosive numbers 37 .5″ vertical and college production (Butkus award winner) and I think Seahawks should really look at him with our second 2nd round pick. We need a thumper like him in the middle of our D. When Brooks returns, he can slide to the other backer spot like when Bobby was here.

    Would love to hear more of your thoughts on him as a potential Seahawks target. He hasn’t gotten much run around the league or this site yet. Thanks and keep up the great work!

    • Rob Staton says:

      I really liked Logan Wilson — I thought he was quick and sudden to fly to the ball, showing the instincts to match. He was one of my favourite players in 2020.

      I don’t think Campbell has that same quickness. I know their testing numbers are very similar but you don’t see a lot of plays where he flies to the ball, shoots traffic and gets to the man. To me he looked very average on tape.