Live blog: Combine day two workouts — QB, WR, TE

Welcome to our coverage of the 2018 NFL combine. Every day we’ll be updating events as they happen in Indianapolis, posting workout numbers and information.

This post will be updated consistently so keep hitting refresh.

We’ll end each day with a separate ‘review’ piece. In today’s we’ll be looking at the performance of the receivers and tight ends. The Seahawks are likely to keep an eye on both positions, particularly the TE’s.

The three players I’m going to be focusing on the most are Stanford’s Dalton Schultz, Notre Dame’s Durham Smythe and Washington’s Will Dissly. Sadly, Schultz has the same arm length issues as Smythe. Both have sub-32 inch arms. Not ideal for blocking. In comparison, Nick Vannett had +34 inch arms.

Defensive back measurements

A reminder — the Seahawks don’t draft cornerbacks with sub-32 inch arms. I’ve included a players wingspan in brackets too. The average NFL cornerback has a wingspan of 75.5 inches (31.5 inch arm length).

Denzel Ward — 31 2/8 (74 6/8)
Josh Jackson — 31 1/8 (74 2/8)
Mike Hughes — 31 1/8 (73)
Isaiah Oliver — 33 4/8 (80 5/8)
Jaire Alexander — 31 1/8 (74 6/8)
Anthony Averett — 30 2/8 (71 5/8)
Chris Campbell — 33 4/8 (79)
Tony Brown — 31 4/8 (74 6/8)
Andre Chachere — 31 3/8 (75 6/8)
Carlton Davis — 32 6/8 (79 3/8)
Duke Dawson — 31 4/8 (74 4/8)
Dee Delaney — 30 4/8 (74 3/8)
Brandon Facyson — 32 5/8 (78 4/8)
Rashard Fant — 30 (72)
Rashaan Gaulden — 30 6/8 (73 1/8)
Grant Haley — 29 6/8 (72 2/8)
Davontae Harris — 31 1/8 (75 6/8)
Holton Hill — 32 (77 2/8)
Donte Jackson — 29 4/8 (71 5/8)
J.C. Jackson — 31 4/8 (75 2/8)
Danny Johnson — 31 1/8 (74 1/8)
Taron Johnson — 30 7/8 (74)
Chris Jones — 32 6/8 (78 2/8)
Michael Joseph — 30 2/8 (73 1/8)
Jamarcus King — 32 7/8 (78 3/8)
Avonte Maddox — 29 4/8 (71 3/8)
Tarvarus McFadden — 32 4/8 (78)
Quenton Meeks — 31 6/8 (76 2/8)
Kam Moore — 31 3/8 (75 7/8)
Chandon Sullivan — 32 3/8 (76 6/8)
J.T. Thomas — 32 (77 6/8)
D’Montre Wade — 32 3/8 (76 7/8)
Levi Wallace — 32 6/8 (77 3/8)
Isaac Yiadom — 32 3/8 (75 6/8)

The safety numbers are being posted too:

Derwin James
Height: 6-1 6/8
Weight: 215
Hand: 9 4/8
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 78 5/8

Ronnie Harrison
Height: 6-2
Weight: 207
Hand: 9 4/8
Arm: 33 3/8
Wingspan: 80 3/8

Jessie Bates
Height: 6-1 1/8
Weight: 200
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 31 5/8
Wingspan: 75 3/8

Justin Reid
Height: 6-0 4/8
Weight: 207
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 31 5/8
Wingspan: 77 4/8

Quarterback forty yard dash (Group One)

Austin Allen — 4.84 & 4.82
Josh Allen — 4.76 & 4.76
J.T. Barrett — 4.76 & 4.71
Kurt Benkert — 4.97 & 4.95
Sam Darnold — 4.86 & 4.91
Danny Etling — 4.76 & 4.76
Luke Falk — DNP
Riley Ferguson — 4.99 & 4.99
Quinton Flowers — 4.64 & 4.70
Lamar Jackson — DNP

Wide receiver forty yard dash (Group One)

Marcell Ateman — 4.63 & 4.65
Braxton Berrios — DNP
Deontay Burnett — DNP
Deon Cain — 4.46 & 4.44
Antonio Callaway — 4.44 & 4.41
Dylan Cantrell — 4.59 & 4.60
Darren Carrington II — DNP
D.J. Chark — 4.34 & 4.38
Simmie Cobbs — 4.68 & 4.65
Keke Coutee — 4.44 & 4.48
Robert Foster — 4.45 & 4.42
Michael Gallup — 4.52 & 4.51
Davon Grayson — 4.52 & 4.53
Daesean Hamilton — DNP
Quadree Henderson — 4.51 & 4.51
Richie James — 4.48 & 4.53
Christian Kirk — 4.46 & 4.48
Chris Lacy — 4.53 & 4.51
Jordan Lasley — 4.50 & 4.58
Allen Lazard — 4.62 & 4.56
Tavares Martin — 4.84 & 4.80
Ray-Ray McCloud — 4.60 & 4.54

Pete Carroll is watching on…

We’re onto the opening QB/WR drills. The first mimics the back end of a comeback route. Some of the quarterback throws have been terrible so far, not giving the receivers an opportunity to catch the ball at the sideline. I’m keeping an eye on catching technique for the wide outs.

Next they’re onto the ‘over the shoulder’ drill. Most of the receivers are jogging on the deep route to make it an easier catch. Fair play to Jordan Lasley for doing it properly, tracking the ball and making an adjustment. DaeSean Hamilton looked comfortable catching a nice pass from Lamar Jackson. Marcell Ateman made a nice adjustment on a pass from Jackson too.

I noticed this live earlier — not sure anything will top this today…

Onto the gauntlet next. Ray-Ray McCloud looked sharp among a pretty bad bunch. Catching technique was lacking among group one. Antonio Callaway showed ideal catching technique. Big positive there. Keke Coutee also showed very well. They were three most impressive players in terms of technique.

Callaway looks like the top talent he is. He has major character flags and might go undrafted as a consequence. Clearly, however, he is a natural receiver.

Lamar Jackson wasn’t throwing particularly well here — looked to be guiding his throws too much rather than just letting rip. Mayock called Jackson, ‘skittish and erratic’. Luke Falk’s footwork was fine but he had a handful of ‘off’ throws. Josh Allen’s deep throws were extremely pretty. Huge arm, great spiral. Looks the part here.

Quarterback forty yard dash (Group Two)

Kyle Lauletta — 4.85 & 4.77
Tanner Lee — 4.99 & 5.00
Chase Litton — 4.87 & 4.90
Baker Mayfield — 4.81 & 4.88
Josh Rosen — 4.85 & 4.93
Mason Rudolph — 4.85 & 4.93
Nic Shimonek — 4.86 & 4.90
Mike White — 5.08 & 5.10
Logan Woodside — 4.72 & 4.72

Wide receiver forty yard dash (Group Two)

Anthony Miller — DNP
Steven Mitchell — 4.59 & 4.57
D.J. Moore — 4.43 & 4.48
J’Mon Moore — 4.60 & 4.70
Dante Pettis — DNP
Cam Phillips — DNP
Byron Pringle — 4.47 & 4.47
Trey Quinn — 4.56 & 4.57
Calvin Ridley — 4.44 & 4.46
Korey Robertson — 4.59 & 4.57
Jaleel Scott — 4.58 & 4.57
Tre’Quan Smith — 4.53 & 4.50
Equanimeous St. Brown — 4.48 & 4.53
Courtland Sutton — 4.55 & 4.55
Auden Tate — 4.69 & 4.74
Marquez Valdes-Scantling — 4.43 & 4.37
James Washington — 4.54 & 4.56
Jester Weah — 4.44 & 4.43
Ka’Raun White — 4.53 & 4.60
Jake Wieneke — 4.68 & 4.72
Cedrick Wilson — 4.56 & 4.60
Javon Wims — 4.54 & 4.59

D.J. Moore jumped an incredible 11-0 broad and a 39.5 inch vertical. He then ran a 4.43. He was a top-50 talent anyway — this performance could push him into the back end of round one.

Auden Tate and James Washington both ran a little slower than perhaps they needed.

This is a real shame. Maurice Hurst is a fantastic talent. Star Lotulelei faced a similar experience and still went in round one and hasn’t had any issues in his career so far. Let’s hope it’s the same for Hurst.

Josh Allen put on a display in the first group. Here, Josh Rosen took his opportunity to impress. His arm talent is fantastic. Calvin Ridley and Auden Tate both showed well on the go-route drill, adjusting to the over-the-shoulder throw.

In the gauntlet, Jaleel Scott struggled with catching technique. Equanimeous St. Brown had similar issues. Courtland Sutton on the other hand looked like a natural. Very comfortable. Auden Tate also showed well, as did James Washington and Cedrick Wilson.

Steve Smith is working for the NFL Network and is complaining about the overall catching technique. He’s not wrong. It’s been quite a tough watch so far.

It’s not a big surprise but Calvin Ridley looks very crisp running the routes for the quarterbacks. Josh Rosen equally is clearly the most talented QB on show in group two.

The QB/WR drills have taken five hours to complete. Unfortunately I need to head to work to cover some boxing so I’m going to finish up the live blog. I will watch the TE drills/forty’s when I return and put up a review post for the day. Pretty underwhelming overall I’d say but not totally unexpected. It’s not a particularly exciting receiver class and Sam Darnold didn’t throw. Rosen and Allen showed off some arm talent and the likes of D.J. Moore had some good testing drills.


  1. JakeB

    If Facyson was around on day three I’d love that

  2. drewdawg11

    I thought Coutee would easily break 4.40. I’ll bet his pro day shows a 4.38 or something absurd. I’m dying to see if Pettis participated in the testing. His vertical leap should be impressive.

  3. Trevor

    DJ Chark had a great Senior Bowl and that is an amazing 40 time. He is going to be a huge riser!

    • peter

      That’s a really nice time for a slightly taller we for sure.

      Overall not super impressed with the speed in this class but there are a decent amount of bigger players.

      Pretty hard to follow the testing for wr’s since ol and rb may change “type wise,” this year. ..Though if out it, we have some numbers to quantify for Seattle.

      The wrs however have been all over the map…fast for early picks but that’s about the only common stat.

    • C-Dog


      Doesn’t feel like he’s going to make it out of R2 anymore.

  4. Trevor

    Sucks that Lamar Jackson is not running the 40 I really wanted to see his time.

    • C-Dog

      Actually, I think it’s shrewd on his part to squash the whole “try out as a WR” thing. If I were him, I’d do the same thing.

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      I hope Lamar is not running the 40 to spite the naggers who keep telling him he should test with the wide receivers.

      In the word’s of some awesome old dude who first said it.

      “Suck It” !!!

    • Ishmael

      He can do it at his Pro day. Great move on his part. Any of the scouts or GMs who asked him to try out as a WR should be fired on the spot.

  5. D-OZ

    Oliver is long Man!!! I am interested in McFadden, will be watching him closely today. He has good length. Kind of had a down year for whatever reason. I think he was being avoided more than anything. He was dinged up a bit too.

    • Trevor

      I really like McFadden too. He struggles with his back to the ball at times and needs work on technique but has all the traits to be elite. I think he would make a great FS!

  6. peter

    That clip made my morning! Dude is stoked.

  7. Del tre

    Wow Chark is a total burner!

    • Trevor

      He would be a great replacement for P Rich. Then add Pryor in free agency.

      WR Group

      Baldwin, Lockette, Pryor, Darboh, Moore and Chark

      That would be an awesome group IMO.

      • Del tre

        Not a Pryor fan but thats still a strong depth chart. Liking the faith i see in Moore. With JS’s comments i wonder how they feel about their rookies. I bet they feel like a lot of them are still right on that line and need to sink or swim, i have a feeling thats where theyre at with Darboh.
        Exciting season next year, i think we will be seeing lots of second year players turn into core guys.

        • Thy Hawk is Howling

          Del tre, you really think that Pryor would come back after we cut him 3-4 year’s ago? I realize Michael Bennett did so it’s a possibility, I mean we do know who he is and he’s grown alot at a different position since then.

          • Del tre

            I think he’s a guy we either sign to a 2 or 3 million dollar deal because we have faith, or one we kick the tires on after we don’t have to guarentee any money. I’m not sure who he is at receiver, Doug Baldwin might help him with his catching but i don’t know if his season in Cleveland was more about opportunity than talent. I would love to see SamIRgold or Voch Lombardi break him down.

      • Thy Hawk is Howling

        You mean, Baldwin, Lockett , Darboh, and clone a couple Pettis’s Trevor?

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      Chark could be the C-Link Shark, he’s gonna eat you alive!

  8. Thy Hawk is Howling

    Rob, is there two Ronnie Harrison’s for real? Was one of them cloned because I’ve been waiting for that! I completely trust you will catch that. I believe that is your first error I’ve ever caught in 4 years and that’s part of the reason I Love you!

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      Rob you caught it so fast I knew you would. Go ahead and erase this and the Ronnie Harrison comment please. For me, For you Buddy.

  9. drewdawg11

    That little warmup looks like half of my students who think they are dancing. That one little move is all they’ve got, and they repeat it over and over again. The bar is set low. 😂😂😂

    • 4Thy Hawk is Howling

      I dance as a Free Spirited Gothic Hippie! What is that dance move crap anyway, did some hip rapper make that up? I don’t know and I don’t care!

      Kid’s these day’s !!!

      They’re Kids!

      • drewdawg11

        Yeah, something like that. But it’s one damn move… and they keep doing it. Over and over and over again. Between that, the water bottle flipping and the fidget spinners last year, I almost stopped teaching altogether. 😂

        • Thy Hawk is Howling

          What grade do you teach and are you a core teacher? I’m hoping Science, though there is a strong possibility that you’re Physical Education maybe?

          In Washington State?

          • drewdawg11

            Middle school math and science. Mostly math these days, (state testing, blah). I am
            From WA, but moved to Florida and now AZ. Want to see a difference in talent? Grow up playing and coaching in Washington, then go to Florida… night and day. I got to see Sammy Watkins first hand as he flew by us on the sideline. My first FL high school coaching experience. Also got to see guys like Carlos Hyde at Naples. That team was loaded.

            • peter

              I’m not trying to get into a heavy “race,” conversation on a pleasant Saturday morning but when talking heads fill up down radio space talking about how football will end in 10 years I think of places, like much of the South where sports and particularly football is an economic driver to improve families.

              Frankly football may die a bit in places like Washington as kids of amazon and Google families take up more soccer camps, or the hot new sport ( and just as dangerous) of lacrosse.

              But for a lot of kids in parts of the country football more than any other sport is going to get you to college and just maybe beyond.

              • Thy Hawk is Howling

                I agree with your statement Peter! Life as a human isn’t easy, take what opportunities you can or have been given.

              • Kenny Sloth

                Soccer could not get these kids to college tbh.

                It just doesnt mechanically work like that in this country.

                There are very very few full ride scholarships anywhere in college soccer

                Its a downright shame

                • Kenny Sloth

                  But we do need to footballs at these kids’ feet.

                  At any given time there is about 20x the number of jobs for soccer athletes that there are for NFL and NBA players combined.

                  If a kid on a blacktop was juggling soccer instead of shooting hoops we could be a dominant soccer nation.
                  Football is very difficult to practice alone and takes a lot of organization.

                  Soccer is just drop a ball and kick it till you’re better. Point blank.
                  And these kids are underserved in the heartbed of our sporting nation.

                  Our best soccer players come from Jersey, why? Because thats where the immigrants landed and just kept playing.

                  But not all the chicanos in the south nooooo. Couldn’t possibly be any good at futbol.

                  We need some more swagger in American soccer. Deandre Yedlin is a mixed race guy from Seattle playing at one of the highest levels in soccer and he drips swag. He is the future of American sports

                  • peter

                    Succeed problem is the winter sports problem at the olympics. Say what you will about Landon Donovan but he made some very cogent points a while back about the elitist nature of soccer in this country.

                    and it’s all true.

                    I played at a level just high enough to barely consider college but as soccer broke off into at the time referred to as “select”the dividing factor as even you noted is not, juggling a ball in your backyard but how much organic time you get learning team flow and mechanics.

                    It should be a sport where Americans just crush it due to its ease of play, but the fields get relegated to the suburbs and it’s easier to maintain a scrappy asphalt or concrete half sized basketball court at a park or have “our,” athletes play American football at well organized and funded highschools.

            • Thy Hawk is Howling

              Yeah I’ve heard about Football and Florida. Like Texas, Georgia, Alabama etc. it’s participation is religious!

              My Favourite band is from St. Augustine Florida, “Autumns Grey Solace”
              I want to go there just for the chance to possibly encounter them. I read it’s one of the oldest cities in the U.S. colonized by the Spanish in the early 17th Century I believe. The Gorgeous Architecture still thankfully

  10. Trevor

    Looking forward to seeing some of the big WR (Tate, Scott, the kid from ND) run and do the agility drills.

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      After Dante Pettis(That’s right I said it again) my second favourite Wide Receiver is Auden Tate! Vol brought him up 6 or so months ago and damn he has range! Take over for Soft Jimmy Red Zone Range! I’m down with that Seminole!

      Joke of the day

      What do you call your Girlfriend/Wife with voluptuousness hips?

      Answer – A Wide Receiver

      Football Wide Receivers don’t like that joke.

      Is that acceptable Rob, I’m just having a Laugh (Joking in American)!

      • Mark Souza

        That kid from ND, St. Brown, looks awesome. Looks like his numbers suffered from bad QB play. Hope he doesn’t rise in the draft off his combine numbers.

    • IG:Nem Beselek

      Jester Weah. I haven’t seen Pittsburg play this year, but the guy has some pretty impressive highlight video out there. Good length, excellent speed, and seemingly a good hands catcher. If there is a sleeper WR out there that not a lot of people are talking about, it’s this guy.

  11. Trevor

    Callaway could be the new Percy Harvin. If he is there late on the board might be worth a flier. Definitely could be an impact player on special teams and some gadget plays from day #1.

    Lots of off field crap but has moved in with his agent to get his life turned around. Sometimes these guys just need to get out of a toxic environment and the people they are hanging around with and influenced by. I think about the Honey Badger for example or even Frank Clark.

    • Del tre

      I’m torn on if the Hawks want another 5-10 to 6-1 receiver though.
      Its like we wat a go up and get them guy but you always want a guy that gets open!
      Callaways highlights are just something else, if he had his head straight he may have been a first rounder.
      The trouble he got in seems similiar to Rawls coming out both got in trouble for theft, I’m usually not opposed to picking up players who made mistakes to make ends meet.

      • peter

        the problem for me with him is looking back on his game logs he will have some really big games and then go 4-6 games in a row w/o being a factor. Just some real duds. Evening 2016 he started on fire but just sort of had a nondescript year for the most part.

        I could see it if he falls to the 5th round or maybe the fourth but, for me, with the limited draft stock he doesn’t provide any value.

        • Del tre

          Maybe he can trade off with Lockett! Lol. Personally i think its high time we drafted a big wideout with production.
          Also though you might like this

          A breakdown of Tedric Thompson’s game. At this point i think the consensus is that Sherman stays since we can’t trade him and there are no real guarentees in cutting him. Which is why i assume they feel comfortable cutting ties with Earl since having 2 great cover corners frees up Thompson to roam. But Tedric is probably who they are looking at to fill in for Earl if the Hawks are getting big time offers.
          I didn’t like the value formulas i was seeing, but if teams are bidding and competing, a top 20 pick doesn’t seem insane, they could spend one of their first round picks on defense and use the other to move back to select a WR and Runningback combo while addressing guard in free agency.
          I just don’t think you can get away with trading Thomas without adding Terrell Edmunds, Vita Vea, or Tim Settle, but seeing that video reminded me just how good Tedric has an opportunity to be. That and JS’s comments at the combine made me really consider the possibility of them actually believing in Tedric, since in my eyes resigning McDougold would essentially destroy the value of the trade.

          • peter

            Del tre,

            I just want it be clear in our arguments that I am very much in the camp of I wish that the lob would have grabbed multiple rings and literally earl is way up the list on favorite hawks ever.

            I like Thompson and I know people wanted to dog him for his speed but maybe the 4 dbs out of the draft last year was some winky super plan.
            Great link by the way. I’ve never seen that YouTube channel before. That’s some cool info.I

            Last year I watched a ton of Colorado since they had arguably the second best secondary in the country and thought Thompson was a great pick.

            Finally I totally agree with you if they lose earl I would absolutely love to see them pick up a big time defensive player.

            • Del tre

              Oh for sure, i was more baffled by the suggestions of 2nd rounders for Earl and McDougold starting pretty much forgot about Thompson 😂
              I don’t think thompsons speed is bad, i just think a 4.6 was a bad day, he’s fast enough on the field, and his anticipation and ball skills make up for any lack of athleticism, although i really dont see it when he plays, definetly looks like an athlete.
              Last years draft was really loaded, and they must really like the player development to be this ready to move on.

              • peter

                Agreed there had done some plan cooking with all those guys. Half of which if we are honest no one mentioned in the blog until draft day. Hill and tyson.

                • Del tre

                  I think Hill is like a rangier, playmaking Derwin James tbh. He made so many tackles on 4th and short for Michigain, the guy just flies across the field. I’m interested to see how they bring Tyson along. Maybe one day he can become a starter but i can’t say i have a good idea from his college tape.

                  • Thy Hawk is Howling

                    Plus he has just a moustache in his collage picture, Hill that is. Maybe he’s a Slumlord or a Cop in the off-season?

                    Maybe he just Loves Pastacious and Tom Sellic( Is that how you spell his name, I don’t give a damn). Somebody please tell me you equated my riddle!

    • Patrick Toler

      His 40 time wasn’t what people hoped, but the player who shows that insane Harvin acceleration on his game tape is Keke Coutee. That guy just explodes away from defenders.

      • peter

        He does look explosive. I worry about his size. That is a little dude going to the next level. I know there are a good deal of players at around that size but man 181 @ 5’9″ is a bit concerning .

        • Mark Souza

          I’m not so worried about his size. It’s pretty clear from performing in shorts, the guy is built. He looks pretty powerful for his size, unlike PRich at 6′ 165 lbs who looked like he’d snap in a stiff breeze.

          • peter

            Being a bit shorter helps in this case to make him a bit more stacked.

  12. drewdawg11

    I would be fine if we don’t take a WR until day 3. I would rather have a running game and some upgrades LB play.

    • peter

      That a where I’m at. About the only receiver in the second round or earlier I like is Anthony miller, and even then Seattle has so many other needs.

      CHark is having a nice post season run and may work himself into the late 2nd early third so that might out him out of Seattle’s range. Id love to see the team go after a bit bigger size speed player like him.

  13. Millhouse-serbia

    Sherman has his show on twitter.

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      Millhouse, are you really a Simpson’s fan from the country Serbia at least that’s my guess? If so how did you become a Hawk like us?

      Myself I was born and raised in Wenatchee Washington. My Gramps was a huge Seahawks and Mariner’s fan so I became a fantastic in 1988 when I was in the 5th grade( That’s grade 5 in UK speak)

      I sincerely want to know your story Mill- To the- House!

      • Millhouse-serbia

        I am not a Simpson’s fan. When i was a kid i played a counter strike a lot and i had to choose a nick. Because i have opticals since i was 7,one of my friends give me idea for millhouse nickname. And since then i am millhouse on every forum i wrote. Most of them are about Red Star.

        Yes I am from Belgrade, Serbia.

        • Millhouse-serbia

          Spectacles not opticals. 😀

      • Millhouse-serbia

        At the start of 2000’s i was able to watch NFL games only on one TV chanel at 7pm and 10:30pm local time (1pm and 10:30pm ET). The same TV scheme lasted for 4,5 years and ut was canceled after that. During 2012 the NFL games were available again on TV channels in our country, but i simply hadn’t been following it for years and the first game i watched after multiple years pause was play off game vikings vs seahawks with well-known Walsh’s missed field goal. Ever since 2000’s i was always rooting for teams with character, solid defense, good runing game and dual threat QB’s. So you realise why i didn’t have any doubt who i wolud be rooting for in the future. For the next seasone i managed to get a game pass for 25 euros (don’t ask me how 😀 ) and since then i’ve watched every single snap of seahawks games. Very often i sleep just 3 hours after the game (because the end of 4:30pm ET games here are at 2 am) and wake up at 5:15am for work. 😀 Seahawks became integral part of my daily practice. Thanks to Rob Staton i became a draft junkie.

        • Thy Hawk is Howling

          Thanks for responding my Brother Hawk Millhouse! You are most welcome in the Home of Thy Hawk’s my friend!

          Do you want to move to Washington state? I’m pretty confident I could hook you up. I sincerely enjoy helping people, and I’m a clever Boy!

          Go Hawks!

  14. Nashhawk

    I haven’t been watching. How does Quinton Flowers look in the passing drills?

  15. peter

    Allen lazard has some okay speed to go with his size. 6’4 225. 4.55/40 yrd. He kind of only had one move which is the old box out the defender but maybe seattle needs someone like thst.

    • C-Dog

      I was surprised to see that speed. Moves him up the draft boards some, I would think. I thought he looked slow during Senior Bowl week.

      • peter

        I thought he looked slow watching clips. A lot of his game just see to be run a oost , turn, let the ball come to him.

        Maybe after the combine there will be more videos. It seems to be the way for intriguing prospects.

  16. C-Dog

    Epic video bomb warm up. That is how you do that. Epically done.

  17. peter

    I feel like the blog has some Christian Kirk fans. He seems to having himself a nice combine.

    • drewdawg11

      Kirk is pure excitement and swagger. He’s explosive, and frankly, I’m surprised he didn’t run even faster. We don’t have the luxury of taking him, but he would be a luxury item for sure.

  18. Kenny Sloth

    Hey, Jester Weah is the nephew of Liberian president George Weah

    Oh George Weah is also a legend footballer, former world player of the year, his son was born on Brooklyn so he plays for the USA 😎

  19. Kenny Sloth

    Those 33″ armed players are pretty swell at CB. I really like Isaiah Oliver. Christian Campbell looks like a late round option for us

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      How the Hell do you know all these players Kenny? Aren’t you 23 or something? Your 20’s are for the Lady’s Kenny, one day you’ll be Farting Dust like Uncle Cragie reminiscing the Good times!

      Get on it!

      Or don’t

      Go Kenny Duck!

      • Kenny Sloth

        Mostly from Rob. I like showing him a player he’d like.

        I’ve been coming to this site since I was like 13!
        Player evaluation is second nature to me, but its important to have a community to reflect thoughts off of, because thats how draft day war rooms work. So much of a draft class has to come down to compromise between coaches and managers and the groupthink that goes into the process.

        I imagine us as one big war room and I consider every opinion as if it was a regional scout in my war room.

        Some guys think Lamar Jackson should play WR.

        Some NFL personnel totally think that too.

        They’re wrong, but they exist, so its important to heed those voices because a GM might have the same words said to him in his office

        • Thy Hawk is Howling

          You know I was just flipping you shite (Do you spell Shit – Shite in the UK or is that how it’s just pronounced) in good spirit spirit my Friend Kenny. I think very highly upon thee, for you are a thoughtful, kind, intelligent, clever, and funny man! I’ll always remember that you were the most supportive person here for me when I went to treatment for being s God Damn Drunkard.

          For that I will always care about you and Love you

          • Kenny Sloth

            As Rob always says its really the community that makes this site special

            • Thy Hawk is Howling

              Tis be thy Truth!

              I Love you my fellow Hawk’s, though more importantly my Brother’s and SheHawk!

              Wait is there a SheHusky?

              Go Us!

              • SheHawk

                SheHawk also SheHusky. Bummer Pettis DNP?? Still recovering? Dawgs likely remember happened last UW pro day & Sydney Rice achilles and want limit risks. Coleman did well (quicker than he is fast) and still later round option for Hawks.) K. Bierria at LB . Only consolation if we trade Earl is Vita Vea may still be there at 18 = RUN to podium.

                (Maybe its just a hold over from years of despising the Trojans but it seems PC doesn’t love the dawgs or we would have grabbed King or Baker last draft — just sayin’

                PS Luke Faulk & Marten did well today for the Cougs. Lots of interest in Luke – Heard Pats interested in developing him under TB12 Please god NO! anywhere but there….

                • Thy Hawk is Howling

                  You’re the Babe of the Blog SheHawk/SheHusky!

                  You are our Queen!

                  Universe save thy Queen!

                  Go Hawks Forever, eternally!

  20. Trevor

    Tate looked good on tape but that 40 was slow.

    That was an incredible 40 for St. Brown at that size.

  21. Trevor

    DJ Moore is making some serious $ this weekend. Bigger, faster and more explosive than anyone thought. His tape is awesome. I could see him in top 3 WR off the board.

  22. Kenny Sloth

    Disappointing runs from Auden Tate and James Washington

    J’Mon Moore is trash. He neeeeeded a huge combine to even get back on my radar and a 4.6 followed by a 4.7 is just not gonna cut it.

    I want a player thats here to prove something

    You don’t think Saquon Barkley wanted to prove something this weekend. He sure did that s***. Braden Smith proved something.

    DJ Moore expressed himself athletically. He said “I’m an athlete and you want me on your team”

    Wouldn’t it be the biggest unshocking surprise pick if we took DJ Moore?

    • Kenny Sloth

      Good runs for Deon Cain, Antonio Callaway, DJ Moore, Chark, Ridley, Equanimeous St. Brown.

      • Sea Mode

        My guys coming into this have been Chark and Callaway. Glad to see they put in an awesome performance. Would gladly take either in R4 if they last.

        • peter

          I think people are going to buy in on chark earlier and chalk his production up to bad qb play.

          so far he’s the most overall impressive we today. Fast, 40″ vert. ….

          Judge went back over chris conleys combine and he was just a tad more explosive but he went in the mid third.

          • Sea Mode

            Right on.

            I also love his attitude and he is super young as well. Only gonna grow.

            • peter

              We spend a lot of time on this blog talking the obvious needs but if Seattle nabbed a 3rd round pick….id be into Chark right there.

            • Kenny Sloth

              I really like Eq. St. Brown’s baby brother, Amon-Ra. I don’t hype high schoolers much, but this kid is nuts

              • Mark Souza

                Kind of like what I’m seeing from Eq. so far for this year.

    • peter

      He’s exactly where I thought he’d be. Too me he’s never been higher than a fifth round pick. Maybe a 6th.

      His value to me is his run game blocking. I’m the few game clips I’ve seen he’s a very willing and at times tenacious blocker.

      Kearse made his bones with the acrobatic catches and his run blocking. Seattle needs someone like that again. Absolutely there’s more interesting players but he had better than average production and came to the combine strong.

      Maybe he really is slow….or maybe he had bad day running .

      • Kenny Sloth

        Are you talking about Moore?

        I think he didnt prepare or lacks the mentality to succeed under these conditions

        He’s not worth a contract based on this amd the tape

        • peter

          That’s a bit hyperbolic! Come on. didn’t prepare? Lacks the mentality? I could see that with Orlando brown but not a guy who is considered a late round pick. I mean if we’re doing this then it’s not like Callaway who has a lot to prove did himself many favors. He’s a small, fast but not world beatingly so, wr. Or jaleel Scott who did well in a super crappy conference didn’t do really anything for himself today. And I like Scott quite a bit but he’s just tall…Not particularly fast, not particularly explosive.

          He, moore, came to the combine ready to roll with the bench an event everyone knows is coming and jumped just fine and sure had a slow forty. so did kj wright and tedric thompson.

          Again moore had actually decent production in the sec and I got to be honest the last 4 drafts for Seattle it’s not like they are doling out contracts from the fifth round and later to amazing talent.

          • Kenny Sloth

            The tape was shit. I just do not believe in that guy.

            He can go do his best for someone else

            • peter

              That’s fair. I don’t think the tape is bleep. and the production doesn’t lie. My comp forever has been a kearse role.

              which seattle needs.

              I’m just trying to find players late who do something besides one thing. so if you run block and put up solid numbers in a big boy division I’m about it.

              • Kenny Sloth

                Kearse had those nagging drops in college too.

                You make a good case, but Kearse was udfa.

                Ill have to go back and look again. Drew Lock is intriguing enough on his own

  23. CharlieTheUnicorn

    Welcome one and welcome all.. to the UNDERWEAR OLYMPICS!

    • Thy Hawk is Howling


      I should definitely watch the Laungerie league however! What’s Seattle’s team again? I looked them up a couple year’s back and in the video Rob was actually in the promotion. Is that right? I don’t wish to embarrass you and you have my permission to erase this comment if you wish.

      • CharlieTheUnicorn

        Seattle Myst (or it used to be called that)

        • Thy Hawk is Howling

          Yeah that’s right, Cheers Charlie!

          That League takes favorite player to a whole new meaning!

          I am Mystified!

  24. Thy Hawk is Howling

    You know I was just flipping you shite (Do you spell Shit – Shite in the UK or is that how it’s just pronounced) in good spirit spirit my Friend Kenny. I think very highly upon thee, for you are a thoughtful, kind, intelligent, clever, and funny man! I’ll always remember that you were the most supportive person here for me when I went to treatment for being s God Damn Drunkard.

    For that I will always care about you and Love you for being a good person my friend!

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      We’ll oops duplicate, Blame it on my Phone. Sounds like a R +B song!

      Blame it on my Phone, I was so Alone!

  25. Sea Mode

    Rob, a suggestion if you have a moment: maybe you could put in bold the CBs that hit the 32 arm, 77.5 wing threshold Seattle uses.

    Suppose it will be included anyway in the review piece, but it’s nice to be able to spot them on the list easily.

    Thanks for the great coverage. I haven’t been able to tune in today so it’s a life-saver. 🙂

  26. Thy Hawk is Howling

    Kenny, C-Dog all of you close to Seattle we have to meet up and toss the football around! I live right next to a massive Park on Mercer Island it would be so fun! I appreciate all of you who have been kind to me. I realize I’m a different Cat for some of you. I’m not a jock or sport’s addict. I’m a musician who is a Nature lover and I enjoy the diversity of our People of this Earth! Love, Kindness, and thoughtful caring is what matters to me mostly.

    I only watch the Seahawks and Husky’s American Football that is the only sports I watch.

    It’s because It’s something to give a Damn about, and get involved with emotionally. I see it as Human Chess, it’s very fun to watch!

    Go Hawks!

    • Kenny Sloth

      We’ve been meaning to do a community get together for the last few years.

      Hoping to get Vol up here for it too.

      I always think training camp because its for the fans and in the summer
      But we could do some viewing parties at a bar or something

      • Thy Hawk is Howling

        I’m so down Ducky!

        Yep, yep yep!

        • Kenny Sloth

          Lol land b4 time. Nice.

          I’ll try to get something thought up by the time the draft rolls around.

          Coordinate subsequently

          • Thy Hawk is Howling

            You caught that, Hell Yeah!

            You’re Awesome Kenny!

    • Shady_Hawkster

      Glad to hear you enjoy the site, but can we please dial down the non-football material? The signal-to-noise ratio of this thread is getting out of hand.

      • Thy Hawk is Howling

        Sure, all anyone has to do is ask. I choose to be respectful of others wishes.

        Peace to you Shady!

        I appreciate the shade of Tree’s in the blistering Heat.

        You and me are both Shady Bro!

        Unless you meant the negative connotation of “Shady” and with your comment I think you just may have.

        Doesn’t bother me at all if that’s you.

        We’re all just individual’s! We choose who we are.

      • Thy Hawk is Howling

        You know what Shady? I changed my mind, who are you to tell me what to say! I enjoy having personal conversations with my Fellow Hawks because it brings me Joy. I wish that my word’s didn’t make you feel uncomfortable. I don’t wish to tell people how to feel, though you remind me of my Father and Brother. They are uncomfortable with their feelings and just talking about Life. We’re all just Hawk’s Geek’s man.

        You can say whatever is on your mind, and if I read it I will Listen.

    • C-Dog

      I’d be down for it. Something before the draft could be cool. Alway, I love to get out to the VMAC for at least one training camp visit. Would be happy to watch the 1 v 1s with some SDB diehards than my usual casual football watching buds.

      • Thy Hawk is Howling

        Sweet C-Dog, I asked you before I believe but I Lost where I thought I left the comment. Everyone who is in the area is invited as long as you consider yourself Good People!

        We shall figure something out, it will be a blast!

  27. peter

    Trequan Smith ucf? Is the blog sleeping on him? He’s putting in a nice upper end combine and had some pretty good production at a school Seattle knows well.

    • JimQ

      WR-Smith is very underrated IMO and could be a nice value pick on day-3.

      WR-Tre’Quan Smith, UCF, 6-1/205, (a real good blocking WR), looks a lot like Kearse with better hands IMO.
      2017: 59/1171, 19.85-avg, 13-TD’s, 79-long, 43/1-st downs, 30/15+, 17/25+
      Career: 168/2748/16.4/22-TD’s. Smith was UCF’s best receiver for the last 3-years. = Ideal late rd. pick?

  28. FAN Person

    Rob, how can you say Rosen is having a great day when he completely missed on out routes?

    Mayfield looks Better to me,personally…

    • Rob Staton

      I’m not bothered about misses. Throwing completions isn’t the order of the day here. It’s the drop, the mechanics, the velocity on the throw. These QB’s haven’t ever thrown with these guys, don’t have any chemistry with them.

    • FAN Person

      Even the Crew said Rosen had a BAD DAY…

      He also totally missed those last down and out routes…

      • peter

        Maybe he didn’t have he smoothest day but nfl network getting lathered up because Josh Allen can throw it 70 yards is terrible.

        Deshaun Watson got drilled for having a weak arm at the combine and dude was the best thing going in football last year.

        Alternately jamarcus Russell and jake brohm throwing from his knees say hi to Josh Allen’s 70 yard throws.

  29. red

    Gesicki 41 inch vert

    • peter

      What is going on with the te’s? Might be time for Seattle to consider a new contract for willson. Gesicki with good numbers but the rest? Not so much.

  30. red

    Via Charles Robinson twitter

    So….we’ll see if it happens, but I’m hearing there’s a very real chance #OhioState LB Jerome Baker comes in at 4.4 flat in his 40-yard dash.

    would not mind looking at a will in this draft

    • JimQ

      Tall & Fast WR – sleeper?, likely Rd-7/UDFA, seems like a developmental WR like Moore from last years draft.

      WR-Marquis Valdes-Scantling, So. Florida/N. C. St., 6-5/207, 32-1/4″-arms, 9-3/4″-hands,
      ****4.37/40, ****, 30.5″-Vert, 10′-4″ broad, 15-bench
      2017: 53/879/16.6-ypc/6-TD’s, = pretty good production.

      • D-OZ

        He looked good out there today…..

  31. Volume12

    Geisecki out here killing it! 4.55 40 at 255 and a 40″ vert?

    More of a Jimmy Graham type though. Not a blocker.

    • Kenny Sloth

      He plays like Jimmy too. In and out. Might be a better pro than college player though

      • Volume12

        He really does. He’s gonna be a matchup nightmare.

  32. Volume12

    How did Shaquem Griffin put up 20 reps on the BP with one hand!?l

    • Kenny Sloth

      Cuz he has a point to prove.

      • Volume12

        Well yeah, but it’s humanly impossible.

        • Volume12

          Oh OK. Prosthetic hand. That makes more sense. Still though. I’m gonna be disappointed if Seattle don’t leave the draft with this dude.

          • peter

            On gameday last year they just showed him lifting with literally what looked like a pad and no grip.

            20 reps. Time for some more olinemen and a good deal of the te’s to hit the bricks.

          • peter

            Is he a sam or a will? PC has dogged this idea before but I see him as a hybrid backer.

            • Volume12

              I don’t know. He’s everything PC/JS claim they look for though.

              • peter

                Literally though. while dudes are gonna dude mental gymnastics to make Josh “Phillip rivers,” Allen make sense for their teams. Most I think won’t touch shaquem.

                and in Seattle land dudes makes too much sense by a mile.

                • peter

                  Minus all the dudes I just typed. I wonder if the Steelers would be the bold team to go in on shaquem? They seem like it might not be a concern to them and who knows if shazier ever plays again…

        • Kenny Sloth

          I mean he could have something to support it, is that cheating?

          • Brett

            I was wondering the same thing. Guys play with clubs all the time, could he do that or something similar?

    • C-Dog


      • FresnoBrad

        He’s a great fit for our team, we need to draft him, he will have an immediate impact! We need a culture change with his brother, Russ, and Baldwin build a positive positive, appreciation of life organization. This kid lights up the room he brings JOY, he’s a champion, he’s a winner and he’s a leader that makes everyone better! After drafting his brother how can we not be 1st in line for this kid.

        • SheHawk

          +1000 There’s a “psychic connection” between twins…. playing on same D they’d only make each other BETTER. Griffin X2 = AWESOME, STRONG, FAST & JOYFUL LOBv2
          Great Griffen family. They already have their Hawks gear from last years draft photo so are ready to roll!

      • FresnoBrad

        He doesn’t have wingspan or a hand but the other hand does intercept balls and he’s got a weapon that pokes the ball out! His unique style of play screams Seahawks

    • Forrest

      Honestly the one player I want Seattle to get more than any other. Chubb and a few others are up there, but Shaquem is a gritty underdog with a point to prove, and he’s talented. He’s what that defense is lacking right now in terms of grit and hunger.

      • DC

        It would be incredible for the Griffin brothers to share the field as pros. Where does he go? 4th round?

        Anyone seen the documentary “Bigger, Faster, Stronger”? Kind of a bummer but I bring it up for this reason. When comparing what people do for a competitive advantage they brought up how glasses/contacts lenses could be considered a performance enhancer in the same vein as all of the other options athletes have. If they are okay, can Shaquem wear something if he wants to? Shouldn’t be a big deal.

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      Oh Heavenly Super Nova, that is so awesome. Shaquem gives me strength in Spirit!

      I Fracking Love that Kid!

      Draft him with our 1st 5th I say, or sooner. Not too Late

  33. Volume12

    Miss St TE Jordan Thomas is interesting. 11″ hands? 34″ arms, 6’5, 265 lbs. Former JUCO guy. Ran well too.

    • Kenny Sloth

      JoTho? He moves really well for a guy that size. Nice hands and has room to grow as a blocker.

      • Volume12

        JoTho? 😂

      • DC


  34. Volume12

    That video of dude dancing in the background is he had everything. My man is out here just living life.

    • Volume12

      Dammit. I had a stroke mid sentence there. LOL.

      • peter

        Champion of life

  35. Mike L

    a little ot here..but if you guys want to hear an awesome interview..listen to the Johnny Manziel interview on the “Thomahawk Show” podcast (Joe Thomas and Andrew Hawkins) this week (Thomas and Hawkins were teammates of his at Cleveland). Incredibly funny and interesting interview..and I emerged completely impressed with Manziel also (I was never a fan before).

    Maybe the Hawks should invite him (Manziel) to camp this year..6’2″ 215..25 years to be in the best shape of his life. He’d be an awesome back-up to RW I think.

    • Mark Souza

      The time to be impressed by what comes out of Manziel’s mouth has passed. It’s all about actions now. Prove it at practice. Prove it on the field.

      • Mike L

        that’s what I’m saying..invite him to camp..what do you have to lose?? He’d be the perfect RW back-up when you think of it…the offense they run for Russ would be perfect for him.

  36. Volume12

    Do you guys ever think about how close this team was to being a dynasty in a league the favors parody and now they’re in rebuild mode?

    What a time.

    • Volume12

      I mean Ray Lewis is kinda right.

    • Mike L

      yeah..they didn’t handle the loss to NE very seems like it’s been downward ever since

      • peter

        Honestly it’s why it’s probably time to move on from a lot of these guys…….

        • Volume12

          It’s tough. On one hand your in trouble when your franchise players who are on 2nd contacts start to get hurt.

          On the other hand, when you want picks and your track record indicates those picks haven’t translated to success those same guys realize this.

          • peter

            No one will ever really know why but I think it got weird when they did that trade for Percy. and at the time I was stoked for him. But in hindsight the team was basically the bad news bears/goonies before that and then the equilibrium went all kinds of out of whack.

            • Volume12

              Me too. I loved the trade at the time.

              Looking back though, letting Tate walk was the wrong move.

              • peter

                Tate was a gamer and him talking junk while scoring tds against the rams was some Steve Smith senior level..stuff…

                • Thy Hawk is Howling

                  Steve Smith SR and Randy Moss are my two favourite Recievers of all time.

                  For those who don’t know Dougie “Fresh” Baldwin emulates Steve Smith. It’s the reason he chose “#89” and Baldwin is creeping up on my list!

              • 12th chuck

                so you don’t think there was anything about him sleeping with Wilson’s wife was true?

              • DC

                There were plenty of *wrong* moves viewed from March 3, 2018. Tate, Unger, Graham. Most of the FAs we brought in. Poorly timed extensions for Lynch, Kam & MB. We just got away from Pete’s vision. Awareness is perishable. He has relearned what he already knew. Time to put the hard hat back on and pick up the lunch pail.

                Interestingly, the most stinging loss in Hawks history, Hutch, had to happen for this incarnation of Seahawks football to take place. The things I think of as mistakes today may prove to have been required to reach the top again. Or… I’m just bsing myself and we totally f’d up exactly the way it looks like we did, wasting a historically good defense with an equal and opposite offensive line. Water under the bridge?

              • AlaskaHawk

                I think not signing Tate was the first big mistake. Seahawks had two good receivers that had roughly the same yardage per year, but were trading off for who had the most. Both were proven. In retrospect, 6 million a year was cheap. They should have just offered Tate a good long term contract.

                The Seahawks have never been able to replicate having two good receivers of their caliber since that time.

                Don’t get me started on the Percy Harvin trade. Overpaid when they got him – and two years later they gave him away for peanuts. What a waste of talent.

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      Vol I don’t l myself think about what could of been. I used to feel that getting 10 wins would be quite the accomplishment. We have had an Awesome team since Wilson and I don’t take it for granted one bit!

      I can still See The Second half kickoff return by Percy as it was yesterday. I was freaking out telling all it was game over with our Defense! I knew at that very moment that the Seattle Seahawks had just won the Super Bowl or something about Owl’s?

      I want more!

      Though I am thankful, and my Hunger has been satisfied!

      Go HAWKS!

  37. Volume12

    Fieldgulls. What happened to that site?

    Running an article about Eddie Lacey being a ‘big FA signing for Seattle.’ And ‘what caused his performance to be so poor?’

    Probably the fact my man is completely washed as a talent? Peaked like 4 years ago? Overweight? Soft?

    • FresnoBrad

      Last year was a complete nightmare so many things went wrong, we are long overdue for a few lucky seasons.

    • peter

      why do all as sites go that way? I’m not sure I read more than a dozen articles this last year from there. And I like kenneth. He’s still the editor of is it someone else?

      • Volume12

        I haven’t got a clue. Seems like when Danny Kelly left it went downhill.

        Haven’t read but more than a handful of pieces since he left.

        • CharlieTheUnicorn

          Danny Kelly was a newspaper guy long ago….. so he understood how to write and compose interesting articles. Lately, garbage.

          • Del tre

            I was beyond peeved when i saw the article saying we shouldn’t sign ASJ because he’s a recovering alcoholic.
            But they dont let me on that site anyways 😉

            • Thy Hawk is Howling

              Del Tre me as well. “Something P. Gilbert” who wrote that article is so negative and cynical I rarely even go there. I do appreciate Kenneth Arthur he’s all good. What’s the fun in writing negative content on the Seahawks, Seriously!

              Hawk’s are going 19-0 next year! I always believe they’ll win every game since Mr. Wilson!

              Go Hawks!

            • Mishima

              Same. Won’t go back until Gilbert is gone.

            • Thy Hawk is Howling

              Del Tre just create a new email and g
              Sign in through Incognito Mode.

              Give Gilbert your sincere thoughts!

              I don’t know if he’s an athlete or just loves sport?

              I will say this, I will challenge him to Live Seahawks draft Blog vs Field Goals Wrestling match. See if he can take my Pathetic Alcoholic Arse!

              When I win maybe he will start to look at People as unique Individuals!

              I’ll be ready!

              • Del tre

                Exactly, its too bad because i used to really enjoy the conversation there. But who cares the Seahawks draft blog is where its at! Perfectly happy here 🙂

        • Mishima

          This. Arthur and Gilbert don’t know football.

    • Ishmael

      Danny Kelly left. I feel for the Site Managers at SB Nation, they get screwed by the main site – as Deadspin and others have covered over the last few months. It’s hard for them to find time to write, let along manage unpaid freelance writers, while hitting certain viewer/reader benchmarks.

      That said, I think the tone has dived since Kenneth Arthur took over. He’s always been a punchy, adversarial, writer – see his rabid anti-Luck and anti-Newton campaigns over the last few seasons, or his obstinance about drafting RBs high – and that style and voice has carried over through to the site commentary and the style of articles written. Kelly wrote a lot of Xs and Os, and had a lot of guys writing, or trying to write, analytically minded pieces.

      The tone has changed, more unabashedly homer-ish than it used to be. I don’t know if it’s worse, but it’s not really what I’m after these days.

  38. Jason

    Anyone have a list of who hawks have met with?

    • Volume12

      You want just combine so far or SR bowl too?

      • DC


  39. Sea Mode

    Ian Thomas catches real naturally. Can he block?

    • Kenny Sloth

      I’ve seen him sort of surprise himself when he smothers a DB

      Not gotten to see him inline. Sure is big tho

      • Sea Mode

        Olsen said he looked good in the 3 point stance. I’m definitely going back to the tape on him.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Thought you said Jordan Thomas who ran a similar time.

          Ian Thomas has met with the Packers and Ravens

  40. Volume12

    Shem is on twitter feeling some type of way and I can’t blame him honestly.

  41. Coleslaw

    If you want to change the attitude of the team, get Quem on the field. He’s a baller, and the rest of the team will feed off his energy. Gotta get the brotherhood mentality back.
    Also, Hayden Hurst looks smooth, maybe a 5th round Zach Miller type for Wilson.
    Michael Gallup also cemented himself as a target in my eyes. He doesn’t have much type, but he runs a full route tree, has height, runs a 4.51. He’s a little light but I think his potential is really high.
    Gesicki gonna get picked in the 1st or What? He’s a different kinda dude out there compared to the other TEs.
    Calvin Ridley is going in the top 10.

    That’s about all I got lol

    • Coleslaw

      Doesn’t have much hype*

    • Coleslaw
      Gallup should be one to watch

      • Sea Mode

        Looked veeery smooth in the gauntlet drill.

        • Coleslaw

          I missed that. Just found he had 4.34 yards per route run, most among draft eligible receivers

  42. Ed

    Chi #8 and Howard for Mia #11, Landry and 3rd. Don’t like it if it happens. Drake is a good RB and Chicago, Howard is your best weapon.

    • peter

      Is this real or rumor…..what is going on in chicago? could a dynasty team be any less relevant? It’s been what 12 seasons since sexy rexy took them to the superbowl….

      • Volume12

        For ma second there I was like ‘Rex Ryan?’ But I forgot about Rex Grossman. I can’t be the only one.

        Yeah, that’s bad trade.

        • Volume12

          I gotta turn on the auto correct or switch to my laptop. This tablet is driving me nuts.

        • peter

          How do you forget rex grossman?

          • Volume12

            I mean, he’s entireably forgettable. We wouldn’t he talking about him and if it wasn’t for Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Tommie Harris, ‘Peanut’ Tillman and the likes.

            • peter

              should have put a sarcastic emoji on the end. I worked in Minneapolis and Seattle during those years so id fly into Chicago and stock up on all the newspapers. It was amazing how many writers and fans thought they had found their man with that guy.

  43. peter

    Shameless plug for Rob and his work on tef scores and why they matter…..check out the first numbers coming in on bench for the d line men.

    Phillips, veae, and senat all getting nice and besting their online brethren.

  44. Sea Mode

    Dang, that Dylan Cantrell is some athlete. Put up a 6.56 3-cone at 226lbs on top of the 10’10” broad and 38.5 vert.

    J’mon Moore tied him at 6.56 as well (but weighs 207).

    • Sea Mode

      And 4.03 shuttle. Freak.

    • Volume12

      Cantrell was someone I just discovered earlier this week. Great blocking wide out, but had no idea he was that kind of athlete.

      • CharlieTheUnicorn

        Who would you take DYLAN CANTRELL or EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN ?

        Both have showed some good measurables at the combine.

        • Sea Mode

          I didn’t like St. Brown’s tape at all. Haven’t watched Cantrell, but you can be sure I will now!

          • CharlieTheUnicorn

            *thumbs up*

          • peter

            Did st. Brown get hurt? I haven’t seen any of his jumping or share area numbers….

        • Volume12

          I like Brown more upside wise and in terms of just pure talent, but he’s kind of soft.

          Personally, I’d take Cantrell on day 3 after signing a vet in FA.

  45. Volume12

    Does anyone have a link to a combine spread sheet?

  46. Sea Mode

    Wow, wow, wow. His 40 was just solid not spectacular, but look at these short area agility numbers for Courtland Sutton!

    6.57 3-cone
    4.11 Shuttle

    Those are the 3rd and 4th best numbers for both drills in the entire class. And he is 6033, 218.

  47. CharlieTheUnicorn

    I’m thinking our pal.. and future Seahawk… Shaquem Griffin is a SS/LB hybrid.
    He is everything you want in a player……

    • Volume12

      Yes! And he instantly upgrades your STs.

      Give me…

      RD1 (after a trade back) Will Hernandez
      R2/RD 3 Bo Scarbroiugh or Royce Freeman
      RD 3/RD 4 Shaquem Griffin

      • peter

        I think both runningbacks are third round guys giving you an extra spot for an impact defender. Though I’m tilting towards an outside the box answer to running back right now.

        • Volume12

          Scarbrough probably is. And if they can add a 2nd & 3rd, then add a safety or pass rusher in round 2

      • DC

        No tap dancing 🦆s!

        • Greg Haugsven

          No thanks on Scarborough or Freeman but Griffin has to be a Seahawk and I love me some Hernandez

  48. CharlieTheUnicorn

    John Clayton mentioned earlier that Josh Allen looked ok at Combine, but was having problems connecting with WR to his right side. Big time arm….. but some teams are suddenly very nervous about drafting him early in the draft. He also mentioned that he had more athleticism than Carson Wentz.

    • Mike L

      if he’s there at #18..just sayin’

  49. Volume12

    Vea with 41 reps on the BP!?!

    • Sea Mode

      Yup. And Harrison Phillips with 42!

      • Volume12

        Damn. That’s something else. Phillips is a good looking prospect in his own right.

        I wouldn’t mind Vea either. Probably fits better as a 2 gapper in a 3-4, but he’s one of the more unique prospects in this class.

        • DC

          Big Red used to 2 gap in the hey day. Pete would make it work. Then we would have to find his Clemons on the other side.

  50. Mark Souza

    I am baffled by Jaylen Samuels inclusion in the TE group at 5′ 11″. What do you think of him as an end of draft or UDFA pick-up for fullback? I know Pete wants to get back to using one. The man can definitely run and catch, as shown in his highlight reel, the main question is can he block?

    • Sea Mode

      1. He’s not going to last until the end of day 3. Too athletic and versatile.

      2. Not a blocking FB, but a mismatch guy you can line up all over the formation. Just get the ball into his hands, he’s a playmaker. There’s really no positional fit for those guys, so they put him with TEs.

  51. Sea Mode

    Good news for my man too:

    Jon Ledyard

    Chris Herndon said his medical exams have gone very well and he’s received reports that his leg has healed very well

    12:09 PM – 2 Mar 2018

    • Sea Mode

      Wait, he was 6044, 240 at the Sr. Bowl. Now he’s 6036, 252?


      • CharlieTheUnicorn

        240 to 252… he had some good eats

  52. CharlieTheUnicorn

    So I proposed a hypothetical trade scenario yesterday…. a crowd pleaser.

    The trade was the Tampa Bay #7 and #121 Picks for the Seahawks #18 and ET and MB…..
    (here is where this actually starts to really shine.)
    JS then trades the #7 pick to the Bills for their 21/22 picks.

    Right now, Seattle would then have the #21 and #22 picks. Along come our pals the Browns… who JS knows the GM rather well from the GB days. The Browns would trade the #35 and #65 picks.

    Seattle would then have the #22, 35, 65, 120, 121, 141, 146, 168, 226, 248 and 250

    #22 OG Hernandez
    #35 RB Chubb
    #65 C/OG Price**
    #120 TE Thomas
    #121 LB/ST Griffin
    #141 SS/FS Edmunds
    #146 DT Hill
    #168 RB/FB Warren

    and 3 more picks in 7th….. probably grab that punter who they had stare-down with at combine.
    A late round CB, RB and TE are also very likely. It is all about competition you know. 😀

  53. Volume12

    Mike Gesicki had the 3rd best combine ever after Vernon Davis and Dustin Keller. A 2 sigma athlete in the 99th percentile. Incredible. He’s a wild card to keep an eye on.

    SPARQ RBs:

    1. Saquon Barkley
    2. Nick Chubb
    3. Bo Scarbrough
    4. Justin Jackson
    5. Kallen Ballage

    • Volume12

      * 3rd best combine ever for TEs.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Several of the scouting services said he was a 3rd/4th round guy, but with this showing, he has to be elevated to borderline 2nd rounder now.

    • Volume12

      Royce with a 123.5 SPARQ. Texas’ H-back Chris Warren with a 121.5

  54. CharlieTheUnicorn

    By the way, SPARQ scores for some of the WR/RBs/TEs are now up….
    Chubb was ranked #2 at 90.3%… and just for reference, Barkley came in as 99.3% percentile.

    Something of interest, Gesicki also blew the SPARQ score up… 99.3% percentile.

    Sadly, OL is not up yet : (

  55. Volume12

    For DC, Jason, and anyone else.

    SR. Bowl:

    ‘Bama DL Da’Shawn Hand (meeting or interest)
    Iowa HB Akrum Wadley
    Nevada OL Austin Corbett (meeting or interest)
    LSU WR DJ Chark
    LSU HB Darrell Williams
    Jax St DB Siran Neal


    Udub TE Will Dissly
    UTEP OG Will Hernandez
    Texas HB/H-back Chris Warren III
    Texas P Michael Dickson
    UCF LB Shaquem Griffin (only FORMAL meeting he’s had is with Seattle)

    * they like W. Forest S Jessie Bates III (Tony Pauline)
    * according to someone on twitter who claims to be a former scout, never heard of this guy, Seattle and Kris Richard have had their eye on SD St. DB Kam Kelly for a couple years

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Kameron Kelly 6’2″ 200 SDST

      *excerpt from one website*

      Kelly spent his days at San Diego State playing both corner and safety, where he excelled at both. This type of versatility has allowed him to become an intriguing prospect. Teams understand that Kelly can be plugged in to the secondary in a variety of ways. While his build and athleticism may make him a stronger NFL corner, Kelly has the experience and overall intellect to play in coverage as well.


      The former San Diego State DB may have the strongest hard-hitting ability out of all corners in this draft class. Throughout 2017, Kelly utilized his hard-hitting ability when put up against bubble screens and run plays to the outside. In a way, he demonstrates a lot of similarities to Jamal Adams, who also possesses the ability to tackle in open space. The difference with Kelly is that he has successfully combined that talent with his fluidity as a corner.

      Expected Draft Range: Round 4

      • Volume12

        I caught a game of his this year and what’s online. Was impressed by what I saw. This was his 1st year playing corner I beleive and he looked like he belonged.

        • DC

          Thanks man

  56. KingRajesh

    Apparently Vita Vea put up 41 reps on the bench.

  57. RealRhino2

    If you are Denver, you sign Cousins and are sitting at #5, you take Barkley or Q. Nelson?

    • Rob Staton

      Barkley won’t be there.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      If I’m Cousins, I’m going North to Vikings country. Ready made team, built to win a SB right now.
      They have plenty of cap space. If he is simply about money, then he might end up with the Jets or the Browns…. 30M per year is the said amount right now… but it might go higher than that. YIKES

      I’ll echo Rob, no way Barkley gets to #5…. farthest he falls is #4.

  58. Volume12

    Top 10 SPARQ for O-lineman:

    1. UCLA’s Kolton Miller
    2. Pitt’s Brian O’Neil
    3. UCLA’s Scott Quessenberry
    4. Auburn’s Braden Smith
    5. VA-Tech’s Wyatt Teller
    6. Texas’ Connor Williams
    7. Idaho St’s Skyler Phillips
    8. UTEP’s Will Hernandez
    9. NC St’s Will Richardson
    10. Nevada’s Austin Corbett

    Couple things:

    1. As much as I love Will Hernandez, I wonder if Seattle would pull the trigger on a guy from outside the P5 conferences with their 1st selection. Which leads me to my second point.

    2. Connor Williams. This guy has to be a legit option.

    3. That I can find, and I’m sure there’s more, JS personally scouted the UCLA @ Udub game. Beginning to wonder if on the UCLA side he was looking at one of those O-lineman.

    • Thy Hawk is Howling

      Yo Vol I have a thought about Miller. He’s 6’9 and I’m guessing he could be our right Tackle for you wouldn’t want him at Guard for he would block Wilson’s lane’s of vision. Even at Tackle in my mind he’s too tall for Wilson I feel.

      I Trust Robbie more then anyoneu else with their American Football Knowledge. He is really High in Wynn with Price second. I would be stoked on either one of them of course. However it seems more likely that Hernandez as a Run Blocker with his nasty nasty ways makes sense after a trade down which would also secure us taking a RB higher up on our Board as in Chubb, Johnson, Michel and so on.

      There is still a part of me that thinks don’t mess with fate and take Ronnie JonesII at 18.

      Oh the anticipation!

      • CharlieTheUnicorn

        I read somewhere there is concern he is TOO tall. DE/DL can get underneath him or around him… he would have a hard time getting leverage to stop bull rushing types.

        • Volume12

          Yeah, I could see how that would be a concern.

      • Volume12

        I’m not against them taking a RB at 18 and wouldn’t be the least surprised if they did. Chubb, Guice (for me and least), Jones are all good options.

        I just think with the depth at the position this year, much like last year, they can still come away from this draft with a potential starter there while addressing either the O-line or one of the many holes they’ll have to film on the other side of the ball should most of these vets be traded and/or released.

        Whatever the case may be, they should spend multiple picks on the position. They have some talent currently on the roster at RB, but those guys are all coming off injuries as your well aware.

  59. Hawktalker#1

    Really liking the tape on Chris Warren III.

    Great late round pick.

    • peter

      He’s a player i think the team could really use.

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