Live stream today: Seahawks vs Broncos preview

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  1. Mick

    Rob, how many hours of sleep you get a night?

    • Rob Staton

      Sometimes hardly any

      Needs must 😴

  2. Tomas

    Labor Day just got even better.

  3. Big Mike

    Anyone joining you Rob?

    • Robbie

      Just me…no one super cool :/

    • Rob Staton

      Robbie & Adam

    • Robbie

      I change my answer…Adam is cool 🙂

      • TomLPDX

        No worries Robbie, you’re cool too!

        • Big Mike

          You are cool Robbie,……….but your dog is cooler.

          • Robbie

            Sweet, fishing for compliments works… 🙂 where else can I try such wizardry

            • TomLPDX

              Don’t press your luck! 😉

  4. Elmer

    Very interested to see how the top college QB’s do this year. It is difficult to know which college QB’s will be the best NFL QB’s. The 2018 draft is an example (Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Allen, etc). Really hope the Hawks don’t use a first round choice on a Rosen (no personal insult intended) for

  5. Romeo A57

    The Seahawks are a touchdown underdog at home in Week 1. Their Offense, Defense and ST all looked pathetic in all of the Pre Season games.

    Rob Staton ” The Seahawks are going to win their first game.”

    I love the optimism or is it delusion?

    🙂

    • Rob Staton

      It’s neither

      It’s an appreciation that anything can happen in week one

      I’m not invested in this season at all to be considered ‘deluded’ or ‘optimistic’

      • Romeo A57

        Fair Point, I am way too down on this current roster, coaches and FO to be considered impartial.

  6. Ryan Purcell

    I disagree with the strategy of blitzing Wilson. He’s proven he can beat the blitz. First off the Seahawks need to stop the run. I’d try and make Russ beat them with checkdowns and long methodical drives. He could start pressing and make mistakes because of what he feels he has to prove.

    • Rob Staton

      Russell has not shown anything of the sort

      And if you play the run and sit back, you’ll be 14-0 down in no time, chasing the game. They might not run the ball in the first half!!

      • Ryan Purcell

        He’s the best deep ball passer in the NFL. I’d prefer not to give him better odds. I’m not the only one to thing he’s good against the blitz: (Lets see if I can do this)

        https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/1441480680253259779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1441480680253259779%7Ctwgr%5Ea4ba8232af3f73a748a6c096afcecedba2f7d53d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fsports%2Fseattle-seahawks%2Frussell-wilson-best-nfl-against-blitz%2F

        • Rob Staton

          That tweet shows… eight passes. And is extremely vague. I mean, when did those eight passes happen? Did opponents not feel obliged to blitz Seattle last season as they struggled for the most part? Were there less opportunities late in the season to blitz because of the performance of the running game?

          If you are worried about Wilson’s deep ball — giving him time in the pocket to launch downfield and give his receivers time to get downfield would be a recipe for disaster. Blitz him, make him get it out quickly on the shorter routes he isn’t as good at. Get in his head. Eliminate the long-developing routes due to pressure.

          Seems like a no-brainer to me.

          • Ryan Purcell

            Stop the run. That’s number one. Bring pressure when appropriate. Hopefully on 3rd and long!!! Great game to have right off anyhow. Cheers.

            • Rob Staton

              Stopping the run is NOT going to be the key

              Russell Wilson has spent the last five years begging and pleading with the Seahawks to let him cook

              Do you honestly reckon the Broncos are going to come out RUNNING against his old team in week one???

              • Peter

                First play. First series? No.

                But I expect to see a lot of rushing. I get wilson and the hubristic let him cook. On the other hand stopping the blitz and chewing clock are going to be helped by two guys who both top 900 yards on 200 carries.

                The let him cook stuff was ridiculous. On the other hand not more ridiculous than the inconsistency we all watched until about the 10th week or so of the rushing attack.

                Keys for seattle….send the heat early. Keys for denver….run right at the non descript dline.

                • Rob Staton

                  Run at Al Woods, Bryan Mone and Poona Ford???

                  Instead of attacking Seattle’s secondary?

                  • Hawkdawg

                    Go at the rookie CBs until they prove that’s a bad idea. Assuming they play.

                    Otherwise, pressure up the middle, keep him inside and try to make him throw to the middle of the field.

                    All easier said than done.

                  • Peter

                    The run got quite a bit better the last half of the season. They still weren’t formidable early. That soft inside LB corps that’s nothing to worry about.

                    I think you assume (?) Maybe I’m not getting it. Of course russ wants to cook up a Xmas dinner that first game.

                    Alternately, the chicken/egg, of the last few year’s was how else does he take it playing in a bombs away offense that wants to run the rock….that can’t.

                    All I’m getting at is I expect him to chuck it around but wouldn’t be surprised to see a steady diet of rush plays since they have proven backs. It’s hard for anyone in a team to trust the process when the process isn’t working.

                    • Rob Staton

                      Russ is going to cook like he’s never cooked before in this game

                      Stopping that is the key

  7. Jabroni-DC

    Listening as I type. Fully agree about sending non stop heat all game long regardless of the score. Keep Russ as uncomfortable as possible. Not the first to mention this & of course I’m not rooting for it but… Russ has finally proven mortal health wise. I see him getting dinged up at some point this season & that being said, it might as well happen week 1.

    ps, Is it time to add Bo Nix to the QB watch list???
    Ahahahahaha!

    • Peter

      Throwing heat to start is a great idea.

      Throwing heat regardless of the score is an awesome way for Seattle to get blown out. If denver solves that and Seattle keeps blitzing I’d watch for three things:

      1. Boos raining down
      2. Denver to score a bleep ton
      3. And players like Bolles to take matters in their own hands

      It’s a great way early to get him off his rhythm but Seattle and Denver have suspect run defenses but only one team has two starting rb’s.

  8. Jabroni-DC

    Also, if I’m Denver, run at Barton, throw at Adams. (assuming they’re healthy)

  9. Jabroni-DC

    The 1st 3 rounds of the 2023 draft are over. We got;

    Anthony Richardson QB Florida
    Gervon Dexter DT Florida
    Henry To’oTo’o LB Alabama
    Andrew Vorhees OG USC
    Marvin Mims WR Oklahoma

    • CaptainJack

      Is Henry To’oTo’o, uw recruiting legend, actually good???

    • Big Mike

      Seems like a possible PCJS draft since yet again a Center was not taken.
      Creed Humphrey liked this post.

      • Jabroni-DC

        Buy the best C or OG you can find & draft the other.

  10. Thomas

    Rob,

    In defense of UWs Michael Penix’s performance, take a look at the offense the new coach is running. I think UWs new coach is the real prospect the Seahawks should consider a few years from now(though I’d hate to seem him go).

    Anyway, I hear you on Penix and it was only one game against a lower opponent. Still, keep an eye on the UW offensive scheme. The real test is Michigan State. The “prospect” of interest is the UW offense.

    But hey, just one game…

    • Rob Staton

      But the Seahawks are not drafting the UW offense

      I can’t be dealing with fans of teams getting upset about their players this year, whether it’s UW or Ohio State

      • Thomas

        Oh no Rob, I understand. The only player you’ll be evaluating on the UW offense this draft is an O-line guy who didn’t play on Saturday. And he’s probably a later round pick.

        I’m just saying keep an eye on the UW offensive scheme. I’m sure you’ll watch a few snaps if they get hot. The coaching is what would interest you. But only so many hours in a day and I honestly don’t know how you do what you do – this is your hobby! It’s very early for UW, but all the same keep an eye on their scheme and coaches.

        And the real test is Michigan State.

  11. CaptainJack

    The perfect result will be randomly beating denver then losing every other game on the schedule.

    • Hawks4life

      Hell I’ll take 0-17, if we beat Denver Pete will double down on his nonsense and the Seattle media will suck it all up

      • Big Boi

        Yea, that’s a sneaky good point. I don’t think I can handle Mike Salk if we beat the Broncos.

  12. Rob Staton

    This is what I mean when I say Carroll has done a really bad job this summer managing expectations

    https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1567062465346682882?s=21&t=pGpZ1IuumytqhQoIcK3Ywg

    • Big Mike

      I love it though because it can only make the fanbase angrier when the team inevitably is like 2-7, 4-11, etc.(Geno!) thus increasing the calls for his firing. Then we’ll see if Jody cares one bit about the product on the field (I don’t believe she does myself).

      • Big Mike

        Because it’s obvious a good chunk of the fanbase has bought into his happy bs. All it takes is looking at the chats on your live streams or comments on other sites to see it.

        • Peter

          The live streams, other sites, etc are great barometers of where fans see this team.

          Did my first fantasy draft in years yesterday since I need a reason to be invested in this season and there’s a decent chunk of fans that apparently think penny is going to be the next Shaun Alexander and Geno smith is going to go: 3800 yds, 26 tds, 6 ints and though we just saw that it will somehow work out better this time.

          Just read a piece on a “competitors,” site about how Geno’s stats stack up to Wilson’s. It’s like trying to make kool-aid out of sawdust and vegetable oil.

          • Roy Batty

            Anyone drafting a seahawk with a high pick in their league is either stoned, drunk or a combination of both.

            • Palatypus

              In my defense, I gave blood that day to get money for the drugs and booze.

    • Gross MaToast

      In his defense, it would be a bad look to admit he’s being paid to babysit the franchise until it’s sold.

      • Rob Staton

        But I’ve said this a few times now…

        The only two options are not what he’s doing, or admitting we are going to be utter shybo.

        There is a middle ground

        • Big Mike

          Well Rob, in fairness to Pete he did say this was a near Super Bowl caliber roster after that win against the Cardinals last season. Bwa ha ha ha………………

        • Gross MaToast

          Agree. This is a complete rebuild and not one that Pete is likely to see to the end and yet another reason he should’ve been replaced in January, but here we are and I think he sees any statement other than something about chasing a championship as weakness. They’re closer to utter shybo (which I have now completely adapted into my golf game, thank you) but I’d like to see how he pitched the building of the team back in 2011 and 2012 for comparison.

  13. Robbie

    I’ve seen a few things that I’d love to hear some peoples opinions on. Over or under 5 wins this season? In my opinion either Lock or Smith will have to have career years to get us over the 6 win mark. Even that doesn’t seem plausible to me. Also, whats every ones predictions on how long Geno starts. ESPN posted Lock would take over after the bye.

    • AlaskaHawk

      I’m of the opinion that the running game will be more important than the quarterback this year. Just looking at the roster, it seems like the most offensive talent lays with 2 receivers and 2-4 running backs (and hopefully the offensive line). Of the two, one play requires an accurate pass, the other play an accurate handoff. I’m betting we see a run heavy season.

      What could nix the running game? The quarterback fumbling the ball or throwing interceptions and the team falling behind. Asking the current quarterbacks to throw more often is a recipe for disaster.

      Anyway, I’m willing to predict 5 or less wins. Hopefully it will be in the 3 win range for best draft positioning.

      Lock needs at least a month or two more of practice, If he proves his worth he will be starting before the bye. They will test Lock by offering him limited minutes in a blowout game.

    • Peter

      Great questions.

      I think it’s very possible that if the defense tightens up and the rushing attack starts way better than it did last year 6 wins is possible.

      Going under, for me, is the ridiculous slow starts to the season that have happened coupled with an yet unseen rushing attack. Yourself, Rob, Adam, and others have noted Geno isn’t winning games. If he has a career year and throws 2:1 for say 26/13 and 3600 yards that’s not going to cut it. An improved defense and rushing attack will still labor under that sort of qb performance.

      If he’s forced to press and abandon the run or worse the run is like the first half of last year (nonexistent,) watch out. I think in that scenario lock comes in the week before the bye to get reps and then the bye week to try somethings out.

    • no frickin clue

      I think the problem that Pete is going to discover is that being predictable on offense is a recipe for failure.

      When the Hawks have the ball, why would ANY defense not load up against the run and stack the box this year? We are predictably going to try and establish the running game with maybe some short passes sprinkled in. And then we will discover that Geno lacks the magic gene that Russ had, to successfully navigate those choppy 3rd and 9, 3rd and 8 waters.

      I’d love to believe that we can game-theory our way over to “well in that case, let’s sling it on 1st and 10, catch them napping”, but I don’t think Pete has it in him. His devotion to Geno can probably be reduced to a belief that he won’t kill us with brain-freeze interceptions.

      Best guess, we lurch out of the gate at 1–3, Pete talks nonsense about being thisclose to figuring it out, guys are busting their tails out there, and we give way to Lock halfway through the season and 2–6. If I’m being generous I could get to 6 wins, but I think more likely 4-5 wins this year.

      And I give it about 2 games before DK starts slamming his helmet on the sideline for being under-used.

    • Big Mike

      I’m right at 5 Robbie. If you go 5.5 which is what I’ve heard Vegas has the Hawks at, I’ll go under.

    • Roy Batty

      I don’t hink we have the defense to get over 4 wins.

      Geno gets 3 starts. Then Lock gets the next 2. Then back to Geno.

      Rinse and repeat until week 18.

    • Cambs

      Lol 5. They’re liable to go 0-10 against the AFC and NFC Wests as their baseline. The Seahawks are the “winnable game” on other crap teams’ schedules — what reason do we have to be cocky about playing the Jets, Falcons, Giants, or Panthers? This isn’t 2011, it’s 1992, the violent crash slamming the door on a lapsing era of competitiveness right down to the empty QB cupboard and the uninterested ownership (at least the Trust isn’t trying to move the team, right?).

      When you’re a bottom-feeding team any QB that’s not a highly-drafted youngster in for development come what may is gonna get pulled for a spark sooner or later. The Hawks have a brutal early schedule with a strong prospect of opening 1-6 or 0-7. If that happens there’s no chance that Geno Smith took every snap along the way just because Pete named him starter in August.

  14. Gaux Hawks

    such a bummer that the year we have a real shot at a top three pick, there seems to be so many other terrible teams out there (at least 10 teams), at least our division is still looking strong.

    best case scenario for me? beat the broncos, rams, niners, cardinals (all at home)… and loose the head-to-head matchups with the other high drafters.

    4-13.

  15. UkAlex6674

    I think Lock by Week 4 or 5.

    As for the record – it certainly won’t be the 10-7 as per Field Gulls!

    I think 6 is doable though, but Peter nailed it when he said the slow season starts. I think Denver, Detroit and Atlanta are all winnable IF we start out the gates fast.

    • Peter

      Wait what?! 10 wins? How. Even prime wilson against the afc west and our normal split against the division that would be hard.

      Wow I’ll have what they are having, barkeep.

    • Starhawk29

      To be fair, I think the article you’re talking about is an “Optimist’s Guide” type article, not an actual prediction. More of a “what if the best case scenario unfolded” type of deal.

  16. no frickin clue

    I hope we come out in a 4-1-6 alignment with Brooks as the only LB. I think we have to assume that Russ will be all “this is what happens when you let me cook along with a proper offensive line!” and try slinging it all over the place. Question is, do we have enough serviceable DBs on Monday to do that?

    I also set the over/under on Russ side-eye glares over at Pete during the game to be 3.5

    • Big Mike

      I think he utterly ignores him and then is all smiles and hand shakes after he’s led them to a 31-6 win. The next day he’ll be “on to (the next opponent)”.

      • Peter

        Same thought. Essentially the same score.

  17. Canadian Hawk

    You called it Rob…the Trey vs Jimmy circus has already started.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCmSYM6GkmY

    • Rob Staton

      And it’ll only get worse if/when Trey Lance struggles

  18. Palatypus

    Over or Under five wins?

    I’ll take the under.

    Broncos 43

    Seahawks 8

  19. Gary

    “The reason Wilson and agent Mark Rodgers worked so hard with GM George Paton and cap guy Rich Hurtado to get the five-year, $245-million extension done last week is that Wilson, as he went through training camp, was positive he’d gotten to the right place to spend the rest of his career. He knew because of sessions like he had last Monday—when he and coach Nathaniel Hackett spent a couple of hours inside the Denver facility in an office together, just the two of them, watching tape, scribbling plays and formations and adjustments on a white board. Together. In Denver, Wilson feels he has a bit of authorship with someone he considers a football savant, Hackett. It’s the kind of relationship he’s wanted with his play-caller and play-author. That’s why Rodgers spent four days in Denver hashing out the deal with Hurtado, and why Wilson thinks this is the perfect place to spend the second half of his career.”

    This from Peter King might be the most damning indictment yet of Pete Carroll. If Pete could have seen past his own ego and moved off his arrogant and unwavering commitment to “Pete’s Way”, we might have been able to create the same situation in Seattle, and we’d still have an elite quarterback instead of … Geno.

    • Rob Staton

      This is all Russell Wilson ever wanted

      • Gary

        There’s a part of me that hopes he comes in and humiliates Pete on Monday.

        Proudly wearing my “Let Russ Cook” shirt today.

        • Rob Staton

          Rest assured, the most wildly driven player imaginable will be intending to hammer the Seahawks in week one

    • ScottS

      I’ve a feeling that Russ is going to go off and absolutely destroy Pete’s new defense, yet the Pete apologists will wave it away.

      • Big Boi

        Actually, I suspect that we’ll lose by double digits but the offense will put up 2-3 TDs. Then the stans will all say “See, the offense is fine without Russ and it’s so nice throwing over the middle, but losing Bobby Wagner made the defense bad and therefore Bobby was waaaaayy more important than Russ!”

  20. Big Boi

    Rob might be on to something predicting a W. I find it interesting that the Broncos opened 4.5 point favorites, slowly going to 5, then 5.5, then 6. But it seems to have stalled out at 6.5 in spite of the fact that over 90% of the money is going the Broncos’ direction. Normally I’d expect the line to keep going out until the money becomes more even on each side, assuring Vegas makes money on the vig. The fact that they are keeping this less than a TD means that Vegas really believes in its number and is willing to take the risk of getting crushed to stick there. One thing I’ve learned is that when a line doesn’t seem to make sense, it isn’t because Vegas made a mistake- it’s because Vegas knows something you don’t.

    • mtpgod

      Being favored by 6.5 on the road for an NFL game is a lot, and Denver’s roster isn’t like Brady got in Tampa. They lost Von Miller and Shelby Miller on the dline, their best te and didn’t have a lot of draft help due to the Russ trade. In my irrelevant opinion, I think Denver could go 9-8 (even 8-9) and still finish in last place in their division.

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