Monday draft notes: EDGE rushers shine

— Alabama’s Tim Williams had another big day vs Tennessee and is being seriously underrated in the media. He looks every bit a top-ten pick. I’m working my way through the TV tape now and in the first quarter already he has a sack and a half. On the full sack he fakes to the outside before darting into the B gap and exploding to the QB. His body control, change of direction and quickness are top-tier. On the second play he uses one arm to control the right tackle and walk him into the QB. The interior collapses thanks to a pressure by Jonathan Allen and both players hit the quarterback at the same time. If Myles Garrett is the top edge rusher eligible for the 2017 draft, Tim Williams is probably #2.

— I spent the last few days focusing on Dawuane Smoot (EDGE, Illinois). He’s had an underwhelming year statistically but it’s a red herring. Smoot is pretty much the complete package. He has the speed to win off the edge, a terrific first step and get-off, the power to win when engaging and great hands. There are no obvious issues vs the run despite his lighter frame (6-3, 255lbs) and he does a good job controlling the edge. When he has a lane to the QB he explodes like he’s shot out of a cannon — he is going to run a fantastic 10-yard split at the combine. He gives you energy and intensity and his best football is ahead of him. While Derek Barnett has the playmaking stats in a big conference — Smoot has the better physical profile and arguably a much higher ceiling. Based on potential he could be #3 EDGE behind Garrett and Williams.

— Demarcus Walker (DE, Florida State) continues to make plays. He has 8.5 sacks in six proper games (let’s not count minimal snaps vs Charleston Southern, a game where he still forced a fumble). It’s slightly frustrating that he lurches between major impact plays with great technique, grit and finishing ability and passive ineffectiveness. He took over the week one victory against Ole Miss in the second half, won FSU the Miami game with a blocked extra point and did as much as anyone to lead the Seminoles to a win over Wake Forest. His hand-use and ability to shed blocks, at his best, is unmatched in college football. Yet he also goes for long stretches in games where he doesn’t really feature and you barely notice he’s on the field. If he could be more consistent and play with a relentless motor he could be a really high pick. Only Ejuan Price has more sacks in the country.

— Georgia are a strange team to watch this year. Starting a freshman QB will do that to you but they also flit between effective and hopeless. For that reason it’s difficult to judge running back Nick Chubb. Teams are keying in on the running game and daring the young QB to beat them. The result is a game like Saturday vs Vanderbilt — Chubb had 40 yards on 16 carries for a 2.5 YPC. For the season he only has two catches so he’s a non-factor in the passing game. He’s had good days (222 yards vs North Carolina, 121 vs South Carolina) but Missouri, Ole Miss and now Vandy kept him in check. It’d be easy (and somewhat lazy) to just say he isn’t the same player after the knee injury. I’m not sure that’s the case. Georgia are transitioning with a new coach and setup this year. They have the freshman at quarterback. NFL teams will test Chubb’s knee but he’s out there competing. Frank Gore ended up being a third round steal after he had a bad knee injury in college. Chubb isn’t just a similar player — he could end up being a similar success story drafted in a similar range.

— I watched Clemson struggle to beat NC State on Saturday and it was another underwhelming display by DeShaun Watson. I’m surprised he hasn’t been able to reach his 2015 level yet. He is such a talented, creative player. That said, Deshone Kizer had an absolute stinker at the weekend in another Notre Dame loss (this time to a Stanford team missing Christian McCaffrey). He threw two picks, managed only 154 passing yards and ended up being spelled by Malik Zaire again. One of the picks was a horrendous mind-blowing bad decision thrown into a crowd of defenders. Kizer is physically very talented and he has an A+ character. He isn’t playing very good football though at the moment. It’s hard to imagine him going first overall playing this way with so few starts under his belt in college. The hype might be a little too rich.

— Another week, another big day for Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss). This is is 2016 stat-line so far:

vs Florida State — 121 yards, one TD
vs Alabama — 138 yards, one TD
vs Georgia — 95 yards, one TD
vs Memphis — 82 yards, one TD
vs Arkansas — 111 yards, one TD

In these five games he’s averaging 109.4 YPG and 15.6 YPC.

Engram is an explosive X-factor weapon with fantastic football character, superb hands, a great vertical jump and the ability to dominate at multiple positions. He could be the perfect modern day target on the right offense.


  1. Therick05

    Rob, what is your opinion on Ryan Anderson? He should be a target to take SAM and he adds another pass rushing option…
    My dream scenario right now is:
    32- Dawuane Smoot (DE) – Pass rusher in his rookie year and takes over Cliff’s spot in 2018. He and Clark would be the Avril and Bennett of the future.

    64- Dorian Johnson (OG) – battles for RG spot with Rees in 2017, our line would look like
    LT-Gilliam, Sowell or Fant
    RG- Rees or Johnson
    RT- Ifedi

    95- Alvin Kamara (RB) – he can be a backup at the starting RB and 3rd down RB.

    • Mr. Offseason

      I really like the idea of drafting a guard early and kicking Ifedi out to guard. We really need that bully presence at right tackle- we haven’t had it since Giacomini.

      • Mr. Offseason

        D’oh I meant kicking Ifedi out to tackle.

        • Sea Mode

          Just wanted to say I love the username! See you around. =)

      • FKA_Mousecop

        I wonder if Odhiambo could slide into that guard position, and Fant/Gilliam/Draft Pick fight for the more finesse LT spot. None of us really know the coaches thoughts on Odhiambo, but I’m hoping they see him as a starter at some point.

        • C-Dog

          I’ve heard on 710 from the likes of Danny O’Neil and John Clayton that they like Odhiambo’s potential at LT down the road. They might be redshirting him this year to get him healthier and stronger for next season.

  2. RealRhino2

    Was Watson better last year? Didn’t watch him. He hasn’t looked good to me when I saw him this year. Same thought for a lot of these guys: when your best attribute is that you can take off and run to make plays, you aren’t an NFL QB. Where’s the touch? Accuracy?

    Falcons game cemented for me that I’d like another pass rusher OR a true outside WR.

    • Rob Staton

      Yes Watson was better last year

      • Mr. Offseason

        And yet he’ll still get taken in the top 5.

        • RealRhino2

          I might be crazy, but I’m not sure he will. We all “know” the Browns and 49ers need a QB, but I’m not sure they know that. Particularly the Browns, who seem to be following the “build the team and wait/hope for a good QB to add later” approach, as opposed to the Colts’ “Suck Forever” approach. That might leave the 49ers and Bears the only teams near the bottom looking to draft a QB that high. Is Watson good enough for Chip?

  3. CharlieTheUnicorn

    Dawuane Smoot (EDGE, Illinois)

    The DE/LB position has been mentioned as a weakness.. or in need of reinforcements. Let’s say the above mentioned player is available when Seattle drafts (highly unlikely), would you pull the trigger on him compared to any other available player? This would create a Bennett / Avril as veteran starters, then you would have young Clark and Smoot as back-ups. This would be ridiculously talented and could terrorize OLs in the NFL. There might be some size concerns, to hold up in the run game, but talk about dynamic and electric to watch.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Maybe one of these solid DTs will drop to complete our line.

    • C-Dog

      I think it could be pretty tempting, especially if I was certain he could come in and play SAM and DE like Irvin. If not, I’d probably be more inclined to go after a Demarcus Walker type who could be inside/outside like Bennett. Seattle has Clark and Marsh at rush end, Q Jeff backs up Bennett at 5 tech, but I kinda think he might be more of a DT than DE. Walker or Taco Charlton might offer something more closer to Bennett.

      • Ukhawk

        Wish I could tick “Like” as a comment on this. Agree we need to go ‘unique’ and diversify our pass rush options. Loving Charlton’s length and he reminds me of another guy coming out who i liked and fell to our nemesis Arizona due to character concerns – Calais Campbell. My recurring thought is that Charlton could be had in the 2nd a la Frank Clark.

        • C-Dog

          I mocked Charlton to Seattle in Rob’s Instant Reaction post, but I think he could end up being taken R1 if he has a strong combine, which I think he could pretty easily. If that be the case, and they snag him in R!, not going to complain.

          Right now I’m leaning more towards Seattle targeting RB early, and starting to believe they might pull the trigger on McCaffrey, even though he doesn’t fit the mold, physically, with what they’ve targeted in the past. He might tick a lot of other boxes to tip the scale, a la RW3, Tyler Lockett, and it’s fun to imagine how he would fit into this offense.

          I really like Seattle to take advantage of the depth of Edge/DL, LB, RB, DB, and TE in this draft, still draft OL at some point. Kinda falls in line with who are

          25: R1P25

          57: R2P25

          89: R3P25

          135: R4P33
          CB KEVIN KING

          203: R6P24

          214: R6P35

          229: R7P11
          S XAVIER WOODS

          • vrtkolman

            Hard to see many of those players lasting as long as you have them…

            • C-Dog

              Yeah, that could very well be.

          • Mr. Offseason

            I like your draft! Obviously all those players would be awesome to have. If it panned out that way I’d be stoked at this point.

            • C-Dog

              Yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath on these players all landing like this. I just makes selections on fanspeak on BPA at need positions, and at times big name talent slide there. It’s possible McCaffrey would be available at 25, gets harder to imagine Charlton lasting until 57, and Victor lasting to 89. But again, crazy things happen on draft days. Reed lasting to 49 was a bit of a shock, and Seattle is clearly reaping the benefits of that slide.

              • Mr. Offseason

                I love fanspeak. The way the board shakes out is always pretty unrealistic, but it’s just fun.

                • C-Dog

                  Yeah, I enjoy it myself. On the surface, I think it is pretty unrealistic, but I think the whole process of the Draft, on the whole, once you get past the small hand full of blue chippers, is a fairly difficult thing to predict. Last year, we were talking about Jonathan Bullard, Andrew Billings, and Kyler Fackrell as fringe first round talents, and they didn’t get drafted until the 3rd and 4th rounds. Some thought Alex Collins would be a second round pick. I go back to the perception of Jarran Reed being thought of as a top 15 to 20 talent, and slid way down to R2, Schneider said they were considering taking him at 32, and were shocked he was still there.

                  I like fanspeak to help sort out the players based on procieved needs, what Seattle may target where, and like you say, it’s just fun.

        • D-OZ

          If Charlton goes in the 2nd, it will be early 2nd…

          • C-Dog

            Very possible. I’d wouldn’t be upset if he was their first round pick.

  4. Kenny Sloth

    Hey Rob, you should check out Temple’s LT Dion Dawkins and South Carolina’s LT Mason Zandi.

    The former is nice and thick and very technical. He might struggle to find a fit at the next level. Just want your opinion.

    Zandi on the other hand looks very raw but plays with a chip. Former 2 star recruit from instate. Played TE-ST-RT-LT in that order. Local boy makes good/afterthought recruit becomes crucial player.

    • Volume12

      Minnesota RT Jonah Pirsig is a gem man. I think this kid is gonna be a steal for someone. He’s very good.

      • C-Dog

        I’ve been curious about him as a RT prospect. What are you seeing out of him?

        • Volume12

          He’s got natural traits. Completely different player from last year to this year. He’s meaner and has lost about 15 lbs or so. Had something like 41 knockdowns in 4 games earlier this year. He’s gonna be out 2-3 weeks with a high ankle sprain. Spends a lot of his time volunteering at elementary schools.

          Dude is a monster. 6’8, 315-325 lbs. Played with a torn up elbow last year, but didn’t miss any time. Injuries are something he’s battled with. Not an early pick by any means. More of a late day 3 guy to develop.

          Tough kid. Very raw. Moves effortlessly. Gets to the second level quickly. Keeps his head on a swivel. Doesn’t lock his arms out enough. Not great at using his hands. Gets/sets too deep on his pass protection/sets. Once he gets his hands on ya its over. Plays to the whistle.

          He’s built a little bit like Breno Giacomini and plays a bit like Ty Sambrailo. Gonna be a project for someone, but man once that potential is unlocked some team is going to get a very solid RT.

          • Volume12

            Like a lot of these big, huge kids his technique can be all over the place. But, guys that move and are built like him aren’t common.

            • C-Dog

              Cool! Thanks for the breakdown. It’d be nice to get another big physical mauler on that right side to go along with Ifedi.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Still waiting for Jared Stangers Draft Jewels lol

  5. vrtkolman

    Rob, what do you think is the cause of Demarcus Walker’s boom or bust play? Does he take plays off? I’m very curious as when he’s on he just looks fantastic.

  6. Mr. Offseason

    Seahawks put Garrison Smith on IR and re-sign Sealver Siliga.

    What do people think about this move? Hopefully Siliga has used his time off to get in better shape. He should be a better player than Smith this year.

    • vrtkolman

      Smith played pretty well in run defense, that’s kind of a bummer.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Smith had great lateral agility, but was pretty weak against double teams. Which is a strength of Siliga’s

        • Volume12


          As mentioned, Siliga’s strength is eating double teams, filling run lanes, and not getting blown off the LOS.

          PC mentioned yesterday on Brock & Salk that this could be his ‘pressure defense’ with the LBs blitzing more. So it makes sense to add a guy like Siliga who’ll let these backers attack downhill even more if needed.

    • C-Dog

      If he’s healthy to go, I really like this move, great depth at nose tackle. A DT rotation of Rubin, Reed, McDaniel and Siliga is pretty darn stout and beastly. Factor in a healthy Q Jefferson into the mix, who Carroll seems pretty excited to get back, I think we could legitimately start comparing the DL to the 2013 group.

      Like was Smith was bringing, but love the stout of Siliga. The linebackers are going to love this move.

      • nichansen01

        I wasn’t two impressed with Smith… admittedly I didn’t pay close attention to the individual d line performances but I don’t remember him ever standing out in any way.

        • C-Dog

          He looked pretty active and was making tackles.

          • Sea Mode

            Finding an “excuse” to IR a player is definitely a great way to stash a player without using roster or PS spot. (depending on salary, of course) Besides needing the surgery, he probably is best off with a red-shirt year anyway, though what he was bringing I agree looked promising.

  7. Ukhawk

    Rob, great update, many observations hit home. Agree Tim Williams is underrated by consensus and this is probably due to Alabamas rotation which limits his stat line. Smoot is growing as the season progresses; looks and plays with suddenness & power for his size. Chubb I have felt is still a late R1 talent with huge upside as he recovers from injury but he will probably go R2+ as u say; as stated before he still runs up the gut hard which I see as a great fit in Seattle ad I believe he could be a great value pick. Evan as you identified earlier than most looks like a great prospect and may be the big WR / move TE the Hawks have been searching for since Pete arrived (he reminds me of Redskins Reed who I always get slight pangs of jealousy when I watch).

    • Volume12

      Williams isn’t underrated due to stats.

      There’s a lot of questions and things to be seen from him.

      For example. He’s not as thick as Aldon Smith was coming out of Mizzou. Williams is a pass rush specialist right now. If he’s a DE, can he hold up against the run? If he’s more of an OTTO, how will he hold up in coverage? No one has seen any of that from him.

      Nothing wrong with being a designated pass rusher. Those guys go early all the time. But, if that’s what he is at the next level, then he’s a 3-4 fit and not very scheme diverse.

      The Senior Bowl is going to be huge for him. Because he’ll be asked to do different things other than teeing off on the QB.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Great thoughts Vol. It’ll be interesting to see where the Senior Bowl coaches line these players up as it seems to be a 3-4 heavy draft.

        Which is great for us, as we mostly employ 3-4 personnel and have used those looks more and more under Richard this year

        • Volume12

          Right. Employing 3-4 personnel in a 4-3 defense is smart because teams that do run a 3-4 are hardly ever in that alignment or formation anyways except in base downs.

      • Ukhawk

        I agree with you. I made the same points a few weeks ago in the blog regarding his less proven run & pass defense skills. Nevertheless if he played more/all snaps, he’d both have better stats thus moving him up the board and he’d also get a chance to display his versatility again possibly solidifying him in the first half of round 1. I think athletically he can do it, he flashes, but is not enough chances. I also think he frame is perfect for LEO/SAM.

        • Volume12

          Oh, I’m confident he can do it as well.

          He’d be a great fit in our defense. No doubt about that.

          For me? He’s a top 15-20 talent right based on his pass rushing skills alone. When he does show up at the Senior bowl and if he does excel in other areas of his game, it’ll only enhance his stock.

  8. Volume12

    It sure seems like Seattle is trying to find that bigger bodied hybrid DE/DT with all the guys they’ve worked out this season so far.

    • Sea Mode

      So, do you guys think we have moved away from the idea of a pure passing-down specialist DT like Hill, Brandin Bryant or that we just haven’t found one yet? Maybe we value the versatility and stoutness vs. run as our depth on the DL over a so-so interior rusher?

      Also, on the topic of Hill, does he even accrue a season this year? (i.e. will he be FA this off-season?)

      • C-Dog

        My hunch is that they think Q Jeff can be that. Pete was pretty excited in his Monday presser to state that they are finally getting him back this week. Also, it was interesting to see that they had Reed in there on some passing downs last week, and he was getting good pressure on the Marsh sack in the 4th. Reed’s a run stopper, but I think he has the athletic traits to rush as well, just raw right now.

        As for Hill, he’s a free agent. He was on the IR, but they released him from it last week. If he doesn’t get picked up by another team, he could end up back in Seattle, if they need him.

        • Mr. Offseason

          The thing I noticed about our Interior DLine this week is that, while it doesn’t have those quick twitch athletes that swim to the quarterback, we were getting some good pushes on the guards to collapse the interior right into Matt Ryan’s lap. I think that’s part of the reason why the Falcons took deep drops in the second half. I think that could be the single most important improvement of our defense this year. If we can keep collapsing the pocket of the interior with Reed, Rubin and McDaniel, then Mike B. and Cliff are going to be waltzing into the backfield regularly.

          • C-Dog

            Yup, I’d agree with all that.

            • Mr. Offseason

              I don’t want to sound overly optimistic. But here goes.

              I think the Seahawks are going to crush Arizona this week. Last week against the Jets, Carson Palmer completed zero passes over 15 yards against the weak Jets secondary. On top of that, both their starting guards are out. Since our interior DLine is getting such good push, and assuming our EDGE players are healthy and ready to go, I see us getting in Palmer’s grill a lot in this game. I think the Seahawks are going to create at least 2 turnovers in this game and get at least 4 sacks. This will help tilt the field and ultimately lead to somewhere between a 10 to 13 point victory for the Hawks.

              That is my prediction.

              • C-Dog

                I think the Seahawks matchup pretty well against the Cardinals. The thing is, though, this is a pretty big matchup for the Cardinals if they hope to contend in the NFC West, a loss at home to Seattle will make things pretty difficult for them to stay in contention. I expect them to be fired up. On the flip side, this is a great opportunity for Seattle to further their lead, and they might be pretty fired up themselves to rebound from the 3rd quarter weirdness against the Falcons. Right now, I give the edge to Seattle. If they continue taking away the run and make the Cardinals one dimensional, it could be a pretty rough day for Palmer.

      • Smitty1547

        Did Brandin Bryant ever get picked up by anyone?

        • Mr. Offseason

          As far as I know, he had a couple of tryouts but was never picked up by anyone. Surprising given his potential.

          • Sea Mode

            Another ghost roster guy for us then!

  9. Volume12

    Damn. Looks like Tennessee RB Alvin Kamara might have a meniscus injury. Wonder if he’s gonna return next year after this.

  10. East Side Stevie

    Pro Football Focus ranked the best offensive lines in college football. This will be helpful for us on this blog we can chec out the teams and start watching these players tape

    Here it is if anyone wants to check it out:

    • J

      Riley Sorenson as a jumbo center (330 lbs) and Cole Madison as a guard.

      Madison interesting – almost made the team as an air raid WR as a 260 lb freshman but coaches decided to move him to OL. Very athletic, wonder if he has the length for tackle.

  11. Volume12

    Couple under the radar pass rushers.

    Temple OLB Haason Reddick- 6’1, 235 lbs. Leads the country in TFL with 14. Has 6.5 QB sacks. The last 2 weeks he has 14 pressures. Flys around the field from sideline to sideline in the run game. Can put his hand in the dirt. His bend around the edge is ridiculous. Former walk-on, been in trouble off the field. Listen to his IV’s. Kid sounds like a Hawk. Talks about his love for competition and wanting to compete. Stats don’t matter. Wins do. Team leader.

    Did I mention Seattle scouted Temple in back to back weeks?

    L’ville DE/EDGE James Hearns- 6’3, 260 lbs. 4.5 QB sacks, 4.5 TFL, 4 FF. Long, disruptive, highly athletic defensive end. Only a Jr, but this kid is much better than teammate DeVonte Fields. Lost his grandma who helped raise him. Real exciting looking kid.

    • Volume12

      And UCLA’s Takkarist McKinley. He’s coming on strong.

    • Rob Staton

      Watched Reddick vs Notre Dame from 2015 — definitely more of a DE/LB hybrid than a DE (he lined up in this game a ton at DE). Like you say moves around a lot — better in space than in combat.

      • Volume12

        Absolutely. He’s bigger this year too. I wanna say like 10 lbs or so.

        When I was listening to one of his interviews he said scouts had told him his position at the next level was OLB. With his pass rush ability though, and Seattle blitzing more with this years defense, he’d be an exciting blitz package guy. Definetly think he could be a SAM for us.

        • Volume12

          Last year we thought DT wasn’t an early round need, but it turned out to be. They never really ‘needed’ one before though.

          I’m just wondering if the same thing could happen this year with SAM. I know the DT position is hugely important because they want to/have to shut down the run for this defense to play the style they want. But, with the influx of insane talent at the RB position coming into the league these next 2 years, I’m curious how teams will respond and adjust. Will we see less nickel packages?

          • C-Dog

            I think it’s possible. I would look at versatility at SAM, just like they like versatility on the DL. LEO and SAM being interchangeable, those are some of the words from Carroll I keep having onto. I kinda think they may have been looking at this draft coming up, seeing all the edge talent, went DT last Spring knowing what’s coming around the corner in 2017.

          • Sea Mode

            This is something I have been wanting to talk about after last week’s game. KPL at SAM I think showed us something we might be seeing more of in the future. I’m not sure it was just because Morgan was hurt, but he was the perfect answer for Coleman. (there is a full breakdown of his performance on Field Gulls)

            Since he is a ST contributor (i.e. not a useless roster spot when he doesn’t play defense), I could see us playing him vs. shifty, pass-catching RBs and looking for a bigger guy vs teams with a power runner. I’m thinking like vs. White when we play NE, for example.

            • C-Dog

              Carroll was pretty positive about him after the game. I think there’s definitely a chance he plays better at SAM than WILL, I think at Boston College he wasn’t asked to cover much, and he was more of a blitzer. It will be really interesting to see how he holds up there. My only concern is his frame and if he can stay healthy.

  12. Volume12

    Some interesting notes from PC’s presser:

    Looks like Bennett and Clark will play. Bam Bam is day to day.
    Said he expects Prosise to play.
    Big opportunity for TE Nick Vannett. Baldwin said he reminds him of TE Zach Miller.
    PC said he doesn’t think ET was 100% last year. Needed this years off-season.
    Sherm said that DT Tony McD has been their ‘quiet MVP’ this year on the defensive side of the ball.
    PC got on C-Mike about ducking outta bounds before the sticks.
    They cut DL Garrison Smith because he needs surgery on a cartilage issue.
    LB Mike Morgan is going to be their IR designated to return player.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      They placed DL Garrison Smith on IR **

    • Rob Staton

      He did not sound positive at all about Kam. My guess would be he doesn’t play on Sunday.

      • Volume12

        I think your right. Did not sound optimistic in the least bit. At least McCray has some experience facing this Cards squad from last year.

    • C-Dog

      I thought it was interesting how fired up Pete was about Prosise playing, saying he views him more than a 3rd down back. Especially interesting on the heels of his words about C-Mike. IMO, it could be great for the team if Prosise pushes him a bit, gets him a little more focused and determined.

      • Sea Mode

        I remember after drafting him, PC was talking about his size/speed combo and mentioned “he will get even bigger”, meaning they see more in his future than just 3rd down back. I imagine he does have a good deal of catching up to do on the mental end though since he played so little RB in college. But they obviously saw that potential and were clear from the beginning that 3rd down would just be his initial role.

        Then add in on top of that the fact that he has WR hands and can run the whole route tree. Definitely exciting!

  13. DavidM2


    Thought everyone may be interested in this:

    Links to lots of college ballgames in case there are some they missed or want to watch.

  14. Volume12

    Rob, what do you think of the other 2 D-lineman has? LEO Caroll Phillips and DT ‘Chunky’ Clements?

    • Volume12

      *Illinois has

  15. Vista

    Just some interesting news from the Saints. Apparently they have taken Rankins off of IR.

© 2024 Seahawks Draft Blog

Theme by Anders NorenUp ↑