Monday notes: Jace Sternberger & Nick Perry

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Texas A&M tight end Jace Sternberger will be travelling to the VMAC on April 11th according to Jared Tokarz.

So far the other reported names visiting Seattle are Parris Campbell (WR, Ohio State), Darnell Savage (S, Maryland), L.J. Collier (DE, TCU) and Dre Greenlaw (LB, Arkansas.

Sternberger is a terrific pass catcher from the tight end position. He’d not been on my radar for the Seahawks because he’s not the best run blocker and he lacks length. If you’re drafting him it’s to be a move-TE who can get down the seam, exploit zones and provide a reliable target. He’s only 6-4 and 251lbs with 32 inch arms. That’s not exactly a Y-TE profile.

That said, he had a good game as a blocker against Kentucky and he is a weapon in the passing game. His short shuttle time (4.31) matched Drew Sample’s as the sixth best at the combine and was a bit quicker than Irv Smith Jr’s 4.33.

(Trevon Wesco at 267lbs — considerably heavier — ran a 4.38 short shuttle and has to be a name to watch)

It really comes down to what they’re looking for. Nick Vannett and Will Dissly are both long, big tight ends. Sternberger isn’t. If they’re looking for a different type he’s an option. In a deep class at the position, however, there are plenty of good blocking TE’s who can make plays in the passing game.

Sternberger doesn’t have exceptional traits or speed (he ran a 4.75, the 11th best forty by a tight end at the combine). He does make some very difficult catches look easy though. He’s a natural running routes and does an excellent job shielding defenders to gain position to make a play. He’s very good at contorting his body and adjusting in the air. He always finishes runs and he’s tough to bring down. There’s just nothing outstanding about his athletic profile even if his tape as a pass catcher is excellent.

He’s a fun player to watch and he certainly makes up for the lack of pure speed and size with quick, technical routes and he’s fluid enough to latch onto mismatches at the second level and win as a big slot. We’ll see if he’s a fit in Seattle but as a prospect — in the right scheme — he can be a weapon at the next level.

Nick Perry is visiting the Seahawks

According to Jason La Canfora the meeting will take place this week. Perry is an old Pete Carroll recruit at USC who’s been with the Packers since entering the league in 2012. He had some productive seasons without ever really threatening the leagues best. He has 32 career sacks.

Athletically it’s not a big surprise Seattle chose Bruce Irvin instead with their first round pick. Perry had an explosive workout (38.5 inch vertical) and ran a good forty yard dash (4.64 at 271lbs) but his 4.66 short shuttle wasn’t good at all. That’s a key test for Seattle EDGE rushers and defensive linemen.

Perry was cut by Green Bay so won’t impact Seattle’s 2020 comp picks. For that reason he’d be a decent addition. They’re scraping the barrel now for available pass rushers and anyone who comes in will likely get a low salary. This will be Perry’s first visit and might be his only option. He’s only 28 (turns 29 in April) so there’s time for a career resurrection. A one-year contract to prove he’s healthy and can be productive could rejuvenate his earning potential in 2020.

It feels like the Seahawks will add a receiver and a pass rusher before the draft (and possibly a defensive tackle). We’re in ‘draft hedge’ territory now though. Clearly D-line and receiver are big targets in the draft. Tight end and safety/nickel too — plus they’ll get a cornerback at some stage after trading down to accumulate more picks.

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117 Comments

  1. Greg Haugsven

    Could be a decent rotational guy. Had some good stats in 2016 and 2017. Was hurt quite a bit last year. Seems like a typical Seahawks value guy.

    • SoCal12

      The fact that he’s a former first rounder probably gives Perry a big bonus in PCJS’s eyes. I seriously think they keep a list somewhere of every 27-30 year old first rounder who never quite fit or was injury-prone, and dial ’em up as soon as free agency hits.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Probably less so than the fact that he was cut preserving our comp picks if signed

      • Elmer

        If they sign Perry I wonder if it means that they won’t re-sign Dion Jordan. Another injury prone former first round guy.

        • GerryG

          Jordan is worth bringing back on a cheap one year deal. Most likely he won’t be healthy enough to contribute but hopefully this year they have another vet option(s) too (like Perry).

          Broken record time: really wish we had more picks!

        • Bulldog

          Cheap no risk contracts, the more the better.

  2. Misfit74

    Sternberger is a fun, quality player. Hopefully at least indicative of our interest in this year’s TE class.

    I REALL like Darnell Savage. I think there’s a chance he could be in the conversation as an Earl Thomas role replacement and allow us to run single-high looks. 4.37 wheels. Not many fit the Earl role. I think he’s one of the few in this class.

    • Trevor

      I really like Savage too. My favourite Safety in the draft!

      Not sure we will se another Earl but he has elite speed and boy does he bring a thump for a guy his size.

  3. Rik

    Sternberger just keeps those legs churning (Churn-berger?) – he’s a YAC machine.

    And Perry would be a very nice pick up at this point. A veteran DE to share time with whichever rookie DE we end up with.

  4. Misfit74

    Yay! Comments seem fixed!

    Anyone else see Bucky Brooks mock that has DE Jaylon Ferguson to Seattle today? What a lazy, totally lame forecast. Ferguson isn’t even close to a top-40 player. Production/counting stats only. Dislike.

  5. TomLPDX

    I brought Jace up several months ago and think he is a Nick replacement. Not flashy but steady. I watched every TAMU game and he was always a goto guy. Goooo Aggies!

    • Rob Staton

      Sternberger and Vennett are very different players though. About 10lbs difference coming into the league, Vennett has great height and length. Was viewed as a Y-TE coming into the league. Sternberger’s a big slot, move-TE type.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Never really could get behind the Vannett pick. He’s too jaggy for me. (If that wasnt a word it is now.) He looked like a beast, physically but I just never really saw him put anything together on film. Just a bunch of mediocre traits nothing that made you sit forward, even in the blocking department.

        • CaptainJack

          I’m still waiting for Vannet to “break out”

      • Doug

        Tape looks great–catch radius, hands, sideline awareness, just enough speed to make people miss and/or drag them for YAC. If Dissly/Fant are the in-line TEs, we could make room for Sternberger as the move guy.

  6. ZB

    Every year I watch the combine I write down players at each position that I like. I looked back at my notes and was surprised to see Sternberger there. Apparently I liked him though I don’t remember much about him.

  7. LLLOGOSSS

    Nice tape for Sternberger, but did anyone else notice his QB? I am no draftnik, by far, but he impressed me with some of those throws. That was no Jake Browning offense (no offense [pun unintended]).

  8. RWIII

    Well if anyone can resurrect Nick Perry’s career it is Pete Carroll and Ken Norton.

    • Bulldog

      +1

  9. Dale Roberts

    Here’s an article that sheds some light on why Aaron Lynch might have left without signing. He simply wants more than the Hawks are willing to spend. https://beargoggleson.com/2019/01/25/chicago-bears-keep-or-pass-aaron-lynch/

  10. Dale Roberts

    Over the years the Patriots have fielded a string of slot receivers who weren’t Marvell superheros but were tough a nails and had knack for getting open. Doug Baldwin and Steve Largent also fit that description. If Churn-berger fits that description too then sign me up.

  11. Future

    Jace Sternberger is going to be drafted by the Patriots. The exact player they target. Reliable, gets up field quickly, comes in and gets the job done. He looks like a bigger version of Edelman.

    • CaptainJack

      I think they double dip at tight end.

  12. charlietheunicorn

    What about bringing Luke Willson back on a 1 year deal?
    I think he is still available and knows the offense.

    • Michael Matherne

      When people say, “he knows the offense” what do they mean? Would Luke’s familiarity with Russell Wilson be enough for him to have a considerably easier time than someone who has never been on the team?

      • Michael Matherne

        But even more generally, what does it mean to, “know an offense?” Is it mostly about knowing the lingo/terminology, or are coordinators really running mostly the same stuff all the time and not really evolving all that much year to year?

    • Dale Roberts

      Did they let him go because he got too expensive or because he didn’t give them the “Y” tight end look they were after?

      • charlietheunicorn

        They drafted a guy to fill his spot I thought, but now they could use one more TE in the stable.
        He already would understand the basics of scramble drills with RW and all that, so it would not be as big of learning curve for a veteran TE… instead of counting on a pure rookie to pick all that stuff up from day 1.

  13. joek

    Bringing Jace in for a visit feels like more of a fact-finding visit than anything else. He forego his senior year with A&M after playing with them for one year. Before that he had two seasons with two different colleges. The lack of time with each college coaching staff doesn’t give a scout a lot to learn from.

    • Rowlandice

      Or creating demand for a team like NE with a ton of picks and a clear need at TE to consider moving up to get their target player.

  14. Dale Roberts

    You’re on the clock looking for a second round receiver and Terry McLaurin, Paris Campbell, and Deebo Samuel are available. Whom of these three do you take or is it none of the above?

    • SoCal12

      I would go Campbell personally, although all three are good. I think Campbell’s ceilings the highest and would really add an extra gear to the offense. McLaurin could develop into a really nice deep threat and Doug replacement in the locker room, but I have feeling he might need a season or two to marinate. Deebo is probably the safest pick to be a good contributor and WR2, but I don’t know how high his ceiling is and if he’ll ever be ‘The Guy’ on offense.

    • Trevor

      Mclaurin for me. I think he he will come in day #1 and be an elite special teamer and develop into a true replacement for Baldwin within a year or two. Everything you hear about him is what a great kid he is and he would be an ideal pairing with Locket.

      Really like Campbell but I think he goes round #1. Samuel will proably go to the Steelers in Rd #2 and be thier next star receiver.

    • Simo

      It doesn’t feel like you could go wrong with any of those three, but I’m with SoCal on this one. Campbell just looks to be a playmaker, no matter where you line him up. His game seems different from that of Doug or Tyler as well, which would add a different wrinkle to the offense. I love the thought of a dynamic screen game with Campbell as the centerpiece.

    • GoHawksDani

      Depending on what you want. All of these players are great. If you want a “next Doug Baldwin”, I’d go with McLaurin. Seems like he’s good, but not great, but has some X factor in him that could make him special.
      I feel Deebo could be good for shorter-medium routes. Good hands and probably can survive hard hits and break some tackles.
      Not sure if Campbell will be a #1 WR ever, seems more like a gadget player. But man…he could be really fun to watch!
      Personally I’d get Campbell. McLaurin and Deebo are really good WRs, but I feel like you can get guys like these every year. Campbell might not be the best, most complete WR, but it could open up the playbook a lot. Jet sweeps, screen passes, he could go deep with Lockett (good luck with the safety help then).
      I feel the Hawks would not select him, or if they’d do, they wouldn’t know how to use him.
      He’d be probably more fun in the Chiefs/Rams offense.
      I feel PCJS would select McLaurin from these bunch. I wouldn’t mind get any of these guys to be honest

    • dylanlep

      Samuel for me, much better data profile than the other two.

  15. Darth12er

    Anybody? Does Perry have inside out versatility for the Hawks, or is he strictly DE?

  16. clbradley17

    PFF article on G Dru Samia of Oklahoma, praising his intensity and pass-blocking and questioning his run-blocking misses, but overall seems positive with some minor pad-level and technique changes needed.
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-guard-prospect-dru-samia-to-put-technique-first-intensity-a-very-close-second-in-the-nfl

    Heard on Journey to the Draft’s 3/18/19 podcast Tony Pauline assessing the OK OL that Samia didn’t play as well in 2018 as in 2017, was sub-par at the Senior Bowl and may be available late day 3 – round 7 if not as a priority UDFA. Just after the 9 min. mark he shifts from the OK tackles to the guards.
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/journey-to-the-draft-podcast/id1012581127?mt=2

    • Rob Staton

      I would disagree strongly with Tony’s view on Samia.

    • Trevor

      If Samia is on the board into the 5th or 6th round JS has to find a day to make that happen. He looks like exactly the type of guy Solari would love. I love the fact that for a big nasty Guard he is a solid pass blocker.

      I like almost the whole sooner OL. Also love that they spent a year blocking for a short QB who loves to run around. If the Hawks go OL I think it could very well be one of the Sooners.

      BJ Autry is another day #3 guy who looks like a DJ Fluker type Guard.

      • Rob4q

        Speaking of the rest of the Sooner OL…what about Ben Powers and Bobby Evans? I know Rob has mentioned Powers in the past, but I don’t remember hearing much of anything about Evans…

      • Wall Up

        With Iupati’s choice over keeping Sweezy, it appears that they prefer more bulk, ala Autry, than a Samia type.

        • David

          Need that weight to be an earth mover. You can be an aggressive blocker and if you don’t have the weight behind you ain’t pancaking folk. I think Solari values the ability to knock Dline off their spot

  17. clbradley17

    While it would be fantastic if we could bring Samia in like Roos, Poona or Jefferson the last 2-3 years with a 5-20k bonus as a UDFA or could draft him with a potential 7th rounder, Pauline’s take seems like a pipe dream and we would be lucky if he dropped some and we got him in the 4th-5th with some trade downs for additional picks. He was correct last year about Poona being a UDFA, but Samia was 1st team Big 12 in 2018 and isn’t 5’11” like Poona is.

    • Rob Staton

      I think Tony is way off on this one. I’ve seen quotes from one scout saying he’d consider Samia in R1.

  18. Trevor

    The six players I think are mostly to be a Seahawk from the 2019 Draft

    #1 Terry Mclaurin (WR/Ohio St) – Whether or not Doug Baldwin retires WR is a position of need for the Hawks. IMO Mclaurin is the perfect Hawks WR prospect and seems to tick all the boxes. Great speed tick, ability to get separation tick, elite gunner and special teams contributor from day #1 tick, solid character and work ethic tick. After the inevitable trade back I think Mclaurin is the most likely Hawks target unless he is already off the board.

    #2 Trysten Hill (DT/UCF) Ro has covered this guy in detail already. The Hawks should have some real insight into this guy with the Griffin twins at UCF. He has all the talent in the world and could be a Tyler Locket, Frank Clark type steal pick if they are comfortable with his character.

    #3 Trevon Wesco (TE or FB/WV) – Wesco would excel in the Hawks run heavy offense and give the Hawks a versatile piece to use as with a fullback, half back or inline TE. He is already a great blocker and has shown flashes as a receiver. Imagine a formation with Dissly and Fant at TE with Wesco as the fullback. That would be power football. He would make a ton of sense for the Hawks in round 4 or 5 and they have scouted W.Vir heavily this year.

    #4 Justin Hollins (Edge/Oregon) He has had an incredible draft process. He was far and away the best player at the Shrine Game week and he had an amazing combine. He looks like an ideal Hawks edge prospect physically. Great length, speed and I was impressed with how well he set and edge in the run game. His tape is underwhelming and that is why he could be there early on Day #3. The reports from the Shrine game were that he responded really well to coaching. He could be true Bruce Irvin type player with a year of development. Really hope the Hawks take a flier on this guy and they have shown interest.

    #5 Dru Samia (G/Oklahoma) The Sooners had the best OL in CFB last year and Samia looked like the glue. Really glad Rob brought him to the forefront on the blog because despite not being a great tester he looks like the type of Guard that Solari would like. He is solid in pass pro and nasty in the run game. I love that he has experience blocking for some small mobile QBs as well. He would be great depth at the Guard postion and who knows might compete with Iupati for a starting spot.

    #6 Devin Ozigbo (RB/Nebraska)- Physically he is exactly what the Hawks look for based on everything Rob has hi-lighted in the past. He was on a bad team but I think his tape is decent and he will be a steal for someone. Pete always likes a full stable of RB and with Carsons injury history and running style I makes sense to keep adding talent at that spot on Day #3.

    • GoHawksDani

      If this would happen, I’d be really-really-really-really happy.
      But I feel no way in hell.
      McLaurin R1 or early R2.
      Hill somewhere between end of R1 and early-mid R3.
      Wesco R3-R4
      Hollins R4-R7
      Samia end of R1 possible, but doubtfull, R2 entirely possible. R3 most likely, but he could drop a bit too into R4 or early R5 territory (but I feel he’ll be drafted R3)
      Ozigbo no idea, but I guess R5-R7.

      So to draft all these guys we’d need: early R2 (McLaurin), early-mid R2 (Hill), early R3 (Samia), late R3 (Wesco), R5 (Hollins), R6 (Ozigbo)

      I feel we could get either McLaurin or Hill. Rest is possible.
      Maybe Saunders instead of Hill? He might be R3. And maybe Wesco will be there at R4.
      This could work.
      Trade back to ~40 and get R3, R4, R6
      R2: McLaurin
      R3: Samia
      R3: Saunders
      R4:Wesco
      R4:Hooker (S/nCB)
      R5: Hollins
      R6: Ozigbo

      I’d also love Savage. I don’t think the Hawks will draft him, he’ll go early, but he seems really good with a ton of potential.

      A long CB could also be good late

  19. Trevor

    I don’ think any of these guys will be Seahawks come draft day but all three could be on the board when the Hawks make thier first pick and would be true impact players IMO.

    #1 Darnell Savage (S/ Maryland ) I don’t think the Hawks view Safety as a major need but I think Savage is the type of player Pete would love it insert into his secondary as versatile Honey Badger type player who can come downhill against the run, cover slot receivers and also have the speed and range to polar center field. He plays with passion and brings a thump for a guy his size. Also showed elite speed at the combine. Unfortunately I think they would have to take him in Rd #2 likely and I am not sure they have the draft capital. That being said if the WR and DL they have targeted early are off the board they could take a close look at Savage

    #2 Dexter Lawerence (DT/Clemson) Criminally under rated by draft pundits. I see him mocked the end of Rd#1 or Rd#2. That is crazy talk to me. I am a not sure there has ever been a man that size with that kind of speed, explosion and movement skill. Still really raw and young but he would be the ultimate fix for the Hawks run defense. This guy is a 5x + pro bowler in his career I bet. All he has is a bull rush now imagine if he develops some pass rush moves. Think about Reed, Poona and Lawerence as a DT rotation. Wow!

    #3 Justin Layne (CB/ Mich St) The ultimate prototype Hawks CB physically. Long, explosive and fast. He is still a little raw but his tape is solid and the sky is the limit. If Pete got his hands on a physical talent like Layne I think he will be a pro bowler within 2 years. He is my CB #1 in this draft and I think ends up in Rd #1 unfortunately before this is all done.

    • GoHawksDani

      Oh, you also mentioned Savage.
      Matty F. Brown wrote an article about him (and CGJ) – on an offtopic note: Matty writes really good articles on FG
      https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/3/22/18277282/nfl-draft-2019-scout-chauncey-gardner-johnson-darnell-savage-seattle-seahawks-projection-weapons

      Not sure about the need, impact on this defense, but I would be pumped if we’d get Savage

    • schuemansky

      Dexter Lawrence talent wise should definitely not be there at the end of round 1, but he is an NT with seemingly no pass rush potential, so let’s wait and see. Imagine trading back to the Patriots pick and still getting Lawrence.

      • David

        Big NT are weird. Sometimes they get ignored other times they go top ten. If he lasts I think he fills a upside and a position of need that would fill a gap and be a talent upside.

    • Volume12

      I actually think Lawrence is being rated 100% fairly. Offers no pass rush, scheme limited, highly touted because he was a 5 star recruit.

      • Rob Staton

        And I think this is 100% the type of dismissive rhetoric that we’re seeing too much with Dexter Lawrence.

        • Volume12

          Lol. Why is it dismissive? He can’t still be a good player if he’s being underrated?

          • Rob Staton

            Describing him in negative terms when you would never draft a +340lbs defensive lineman to rush the passer consistently is dismissive. Ditto scheme specific. He’s athletic enough to play in any scheme.

            • Volume12

              He’s a NT. There’s no value there. He can still be a good player, but I don’t see round 1 like at all.

              You wouldn’t ask him to pass rush? So your taking a 2 down player in round 1?

              • Rob Staton

                It’s not as simple as that. One thing he does so well is carry blockers. His rare combination of size, quickness and athleticism still demands attention even if he’s not a 10-sack guy. I bet if you spoke to Clelin Ferrell and Christian Wilkins they’d both be gushing in praise for Lawrence.

                I think he can easily play three-technique and play third downs. Seattle has had bigger three-techs before. And he will create pressure, he just won’t ever be a sack artist or be talked about as a great pass rusher. He will still impact an offense regularly.

                I’ve never understood all the Lawrence-knockers. A fantastic talent.

                • Kenny Sloth

                  Yeah he’s easily a top half guy for me

                • CaptainJack

                  Saying Lawrence has no Pass rush is false.
                  He had 7 sacks as a true freshman.

                • Bulldog

                  Still a kid, no NFL training his body will change, imagine what he will be in a few years.

            • Kenny Sloth

              I agree that he’s been underrated for some reason. DL are getting smaller it seems like and everyone wants an Aaron Donald so bad that we forget how extremely rare and game changing a dominant NT can be.

              I also think he is scheme diverse, just needs to be in a good system.

              • Volume12

                This is the NFL we’re talking about. The league that hired the same coaches from the same coaching trees, values tall, white QBs. You think they see a 350 lb DT and won’t pigeonhole him as a NT?

                • Kenny Sloth

                  Point well-taken, but it’s more about the profile than the evaluations because it’s only gonna take one team. Teams like a safe prospect imo

            • David

              It feels like when Reed dropped. If you get enough talk that a player is just stopping the run it kills their value. Could workout in our favor though if he falls. I’m snatching him up no questions asked.

              • Kenny Sloth

                Not to me because it was an unexpected fall on draft day imo. I remembered right up to the draft he was a top 20 guy for most.

                With it Dex it’s a pre-emptive projection

              • AlaskaHawk

                I guess I would compare Lawrence to Vita Vea, who went at #12 last year. I had some doubts about whether he should go that high, but he did. So I don’t think Lawrence is slipping past #20.

                • GoHawksDani

                  I’d take him in a heartbeat if he’s a younger maybe even a bit more dominating version of Damon Harrison.
                  I “don’t need” two 8+ sacks guy inside. You’ll never be able to keep both when FA comes. If Lawrence would stop most of the inside runs and get 2-3 sacks yearly and eat blockers while Reed can move more freely I’d be super pumped. That would also mean less double team for Clark and co. If he’d be there between 27-32 after only one trad eback and +2 picks for us, I’d take him without questions

  20. calgaryhawk

    Off topic but I was wondering Rob if you had a chance to have a look at next years draft class (2020) and how does the depth of that class look. Looks like the Seahawks will end up with extra picks next year.

    • jj

      After the draft he usually does a players to watch post.

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve done some work on it. Will do a more thorough piece after the draft. Looks like a potentially good year at WR.

  21. millhouse-serbia

    If someone find mel kiper mock 2.0 , it would.be great if post it here.

    Mclaurin is 26th pick @Colts.

    • Sea Mode

      As Rob has mentioned, it can be read on the ESPN app for free. But here it is on Reddit if you prefer.

      I like Lindstrom. Not at 21, of course, but at least the fit is good. They will like his flexibility. I think he can play anything but LT, though his best fit is surely inside.

      21. Seattle Seahawks: Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College

      The Seahawks’ offensive line was one of the most improved units in 2018. And while Seattle re-signed D.J. Fluker and added Mike Iupati in free agency, the guard position isn’t solidified for the future. Lindstrom (6-foot-4, 308 pounds) is rising after his combine workout — he ran a 4.91 40-yard dash and tested well athletically — and he’s getting some first-round buzz.

      • millhouse-serbia

        I can’t read on espn app. Tnx for this.

  22. Zxvo3

    Rob have you gotten a chance to look at Foster Moreau? I remember he had a great short shuttle (I think 4.11) so I was wondering if he could be a late round target for the Seahawks.

    • Rob Staton

      Not full yet

  23. Sea Mode

    More rummaging through the bargain DT bin:

    ProFootballTalk
    @ProFootballTalk

    Earl Mitchell visiting Seahawks this week

    7:19 AM – 26 Mar 2019

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/26/earl-mitchell-visiting-seahawks/

    Mitchell spent the last two seasons in the NFC West with the 49ers, so the Seahawks have some recent experience playing against him. He started 28 of the 30 games he played over that span and recorded 61 tackles and a sack.

    Mitchell has also played for the Dolphins and Texans since Houston made him a third-round pick in 2010.

    • Nick

      He’s 6’3 and 308. Trysten Hill’s size…

  24. Stephen Pitell

    No one is mocking a QB? My hopes are that PC/JS have someone in their pocket who no one will have guessed but that makes our hearts skip a beat when see his film. Maybe from some pee wee league team we overlook. A future HOF QB hidden in plain sight?

    Anyway, no one seems to have taken Rob’s advise to heart. In order to put pressure on RW to sign a contract we have to have a plan B guy sitting in the wings….

    • Volume12

      I invent chimed on on this because it’s a little future tripping, but Pete seems like the type of the guy who lives in the moment. Or at least that’s the facade he puts on.

    • Elijah

      Having a proverbial Plan B is only useful if you actually believe that player is the right choice – given our limited draft capital and the fact that the only good QB prospect we probably could realistically get out of this draft is Grier, we’re probably just gonna roll with who we have in the QB room right now.

      Unless you think taking a flyer on someone like Kyle Kempt or Jake Browning in the 7th-rd changes everything.

    • AlaskaHawk

      I would prefer finding a QB next year. That would maximize their rookie value, and it would allow the Seahawks to use a number one pick on them.

      Rob has offered up a mid draft choice of Grier for this year. He is as good as any and does have some accuracy in the long passing game. I just think there will be better choices next year.

      • charlietheunicorn

        Seattle will not get a top 3 QB next draft (2020), so who is the guy they would take that could step in and be natural fit in the offense? If you think you can get the guy in any draft, you take him. This year is down year for QB, but you never know…. some small school guy might be the diamond in the rough waiting to be found.

        • Eli

          I think next years QB crop will be more promising/interesting than this one by a long shot:

          Tua, Jake Fromm, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Steven Montez, Jacob Eason, K.J. Costello, Joe Burrow, Nate Stanley, Shea Patterson, Khalil Tate, Kellen Mond, Jake Bentley, Feleipe Franks, etc.

          Maybe they don’t all declare, maybe they’re not all Top 10 pick worthy, but I think there’s considerably more potential in the class next year than in the current one.

  25. Sea Mode

    Bob Condotta
    @bcondotta

    Carroll on Bobby Wagner’s future: “Bobby’s going to be a Seahawk.” Said Seattle re-signing KJ Wright “might have been the best thing we did to negotiate with Bobby.”

    9:23 AM – 26 Mar 2019

  26. Volume12

    Volume12 says:
    March 1, 2019 at 2:59 pm
    Texas A&M TE Jace Sternberger can flat out play!

    Has NFL TE written all over him. Can’t wait to see him tommorow. Movement skills are excellent, silky smooth in and out of his breaks, physical and willing blocker but not his greatest asset, great hands, and has a RAC skill set you don’t usually see from TEs.

    Led the FBS in TDs from a TE, broke records at A&M, and has really only played 1 season coming from the JUCO ranks. A 20+ yd catch in 12 of 13 games and averaged over 17 YPC.

    Jace Sternberger vs Ole Miss (2018):
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7PL101R-I2o

    * There’s a play in the S. Carolina game were he drags a defender probably 20 yds, but it’s a 20:00 clip and I wasn’t about to post that.

    • Hawktalker#1

      There are a lot of prospects that can play. Doesn’t mean they’re the right fit for the Seahawks.

  27. Volume12

    CJ Prosise will have chance to fill Mike Davis role. How? He can’t even stay healthy long enough to finish a game as the 4th RB on the depth chart. Now he’s gonna be counted on to have a pretty steady workload?

    • charlietheunicorn

      I look at it like this, they might be trying to get him right so they can trade him for a bag of peanuts. Pencil him in for the 3rd down back role, but I would not be shocked if another player was brought into the team (draft or FA) and wins that spot…..

    • CaptainJack

      I honestly forgot he existed.

      • Bulldog

        I haven’t he’s been injured. If he gets healthy he should be a star! Many athletes never get an opportunity to hit it big due to injuries especially in the NFL.

    • AlaskaHawk

      When am I going to see Bo Scarbrough play? Hopefully he tears up the field in preseason.

      • Bulldog

        Oh ya! I fantasize how good Bo could be. Carson had endurance issues and probably still has some mental stuff and he could be a Probowler. No reason Bo can’t overcome his weird behavior. Frank Clark if their thinking about paying him big $$$… Sternberger he doesn’t fit the profile but there’s gotta be something there.

  28. Mark Souza

    Sternberger looks very interesting. Great hands, great route running. Tons of yards-after-catch. He’s hard to bring down and hard to chase down. If he’s willing to learn blocking technique, he could be a great addition – because with blocking, “want to” is the biggest key.

  29. Sea Mode

    It’s not much, but it’s better than nothing at least…

    Bob Condotta
    @bcondotta

    Carroll on contract talks with Russell Wilson: “We’ve been in communication, sure. It’s very topical. We’re on it.”

    11:10 AM – 26 Mar 2019

    • Rob Staton

      “It’s very topical”

      🙂

      Pete is so comfortable surrounded by noise, it’s as if he prefers it.

      • Trevor

        I agree Rob. I think Pete thrives with a certain amount of chaos and thinks it provides and energy.

        I get the impression he would like the pot to always be bubbling. The key however is for him to have that but not have things boil over.

        • Bulldog

          I love the Seahawks because there are no average athletes on the roster, if they don’t measure up one way, they certainly will another way. A lot of it is luck because there are so many ways a football player’s career can go south. Lots of impatient folks on this board, lots of folks with little faith (Prosise). Be wary the rain in Seattle can get the best of you.

  30. Sea Mode

    Bwahahahahahaaaa! Salty!

    Bob Condotta
    @bcondotta

    Pete Carroll when told Malik McDowell’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said an independent doctor has cleared him to play: “Who said that? Dr. Drew? Makes sense now.”

    11:02 AM – 26 Mar 2019

    • Rob Staton

      Pete with the banter!

    • Trevor

      Love it!

      Why would the Cowboys even bring him in? I get the impression that the Hawks and Cowboys front offices really don’t care for each other.

    • charlietheunicorn

      Sometimes you have to protect the player from themselves. IF the Seahawks truly believe Malik is unable to play, they have a “moral” duty not green light him. If another team can look past whatever health and personal problems he has to green light him… it is on them.

      PC is a pretty wry for a mid 60s oldster.

  31. DCD2

    Is DL the position that Seattle has only ever drafted guys with 33″ arms? Was looking at Khalen Saunders last night and he looks like a great rotational guy. Big knock on him was that he gets gassed often.

    He’s got 32.25 arms, so I’m not sure if that would likely rule him out. Still, he looked good from what I saw as a DT with some rush. Small school (W. Illinois) so not the greatest competition.

    Anyone else watched him?

    • Volume12

      No. They’ve taken guys there with less than 33″ arms.

      Jesse Williams
      Jacob Martin
      And someone from the 2010 class IIRC

      Which is over 90% of guys drafted that do.

      • DCD2

        Thanks. Pauline has the exact same grade on him as Trystan Hill, and projected as a 3rd rounder. Seems like those would be two good options in the 3rd round if you’re looking for an athletic 3 tech with some rush skills.

        Renell Wren is right there too. That seems like it could be a pocket where they ID 2 or 3 guys that they’d be happy with and try to maneuver around while still landing one. They could then focus on another position with their first pick, and target the safety/nickel in round 4-5.

  32. Hawktalker#1

    Just saw the seven round mock draft on field gulls.

    So tired of looking at these poor efforts. At least there were some trade downs proposed. Without at least that, you can throw it in the garbage straight away.

    • Hawktalker#1

      I have a new name for all of these similar really bad mock drafts. I’m going to call them mock bullocks drafts. Why waste your time? Ha ha ha

    • JohnH

      Entertainment? Even the best, most accurate, close to the team fully informed mocks (of which I’d say Rob is tops) gets it wrong more often than right. And at the end of the day none of this makes any difference.

      Mock drafts are just fan fic for football.

    • DCD2

      Hopefully you read his vast disclaimer before just scrolling down to the picks. He says that doing the mocks is just his fun way of looking at all of the players. He puts out like 7-10 of these and never mocks the same guy to us. He always uses trade downs and tries to focus on various guys that would be available after that.

      There are a lot of garbage mocks out there, but the FG guy clearly states his intentions in the preamble.

      • DCD2

        Here’s what he says:

        These are not intended as a prediction of what will happen, they are merely a vehicle to look at different players that the front office may be looking at. With that, I will probably change who I draft just about every time, just to take a little bit closer look at more players at different levels of the draft at different positions. I will also trade out of the 1st every time I publish one of these. There are plenty of other places where you can learn about the first round and even the top of the second, here we want to look at all the other guys. In the end, we may find some draft “crushes” and know more names throughout the draft.

    • GoHawksDani

      These mocks are mostly suck because they use fanspeak’s mock draft simulator. IT has afwul trade mechanics and bad big boards and draft algorithm. I tried to program one only for the Hawks which would use the draft trade chart values for proposing trades (so at least you wouldn’t get two 3rd round picks for moving down 2 spots), but hard to find a decent big board and didn’t have much time to work on it, so I guess I’ll make a simulator for next year maybe

  33. Volume12

    NC LB Cole Holcomb (6’1, 235 lbs.) led the ACC in tackles

    4.48 40
    11″ broad
    39.5″ vert he put up at a regional combine
    6.77 3 cone
    4.18 SS

    • Trevor

      Those are really good numbers and production. Have you watched much tape of him?

  34. Hawkin

    Rob,

    Any of these TEs stand out to you as a good WR convert? Sternberger could be, but maybe also Fant?

    • Rob Staton

      Fant is basically a bit slot receiver. Sternberger too. Irv Smith Jr too.

      I wouldn’t call them converts though. Mainly just guys who are far better at pass-catching than blocking. But they’ll still line up at TE etc.

  35. Trevor

    Interesting when Pete gets asked about Clark and Wagner he is definitive that they will be Seahawks. When asked about Russ all you get is they have have some conversations. Maybe reading too much into that but why so adamant about Wagner and basically silent about Russ.

    • Rob Staton

      Probably a review of the situation.

      They’re determined and probably feel confident in retaining Clark or Wagner. Or at least they’re relaxed about the situation.

      With Wilson it’s a massive dilemma that is not close to being resolved. And that’s why we’ve spent so long talking about it this off-season.

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