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  1. Sea Mode

    [ben Arthur] McLaurin impressive? “Really good. Really liked him. Toughness and playmaking, great speed. Great kid. Liked the heck out of him coming out. One of the guys confident if we put him on our club he’d be a terrific player. Legit.”


    • Denver Hawker

      But but Collier and Blair are great depth..

      • Big Mike


    • BobbyK

      I really like both of those Ohio State WRs that year and really hoped we would draft at least one of them. Of course, DK was the cream of the crop and I wouldn’t have taken him. I would have taken Campbell or McLaurin but I wouldn’t have been opposed to double-dipping either (with the Baldwin retirement). In retrospect, people would be calling me an idiot for taking Campbell.

      The reason why I wouldn’t have taken DK (questions – like his neck; McDowell – character; Taylor – injury) is the exact same reason I wouldn’t have taken McDowell or Taylor though (I would have taken TJ Watt over McDowell and JK Dobbins over Taylor… though I never would have traded up for Dobbins, so that would have left me with the best available safety I liked – Jeremy Chinn [cause there’s no way I would have gone into the draft with Mayowa as my “best” pass rusher]. So much hindsight because my Seahawks draft would have been; 1. Jonathan Taylor, 2. Logan Wilson, 2. Jeremy Chinn, though I would have gone DaVon Hamilton over Chinn had the Seahawks DL really been that terrible as it was on draft day (which no sane person should ever have allowed).

      Loved the cha piece earlier this week. It would be interesting to note how people would have done better/worse than the Seahawks in various stories at some point in the off-season. Like I said, I would have taken Campbell over DK and I would have tapped into that WR draft class (yes, I’d have taken Campbell over Blair in R2) but that draft class would have sucked for us because I would have taken the bust of the lot.

      Kind of like a guest article of the best thing you wanted badly that would have made the Seahawks great if you’d been able to call the shots, and the dumbest thing you would have done that you would have screwed the team over. You know, it couldn’t be worse than drafting McDowell, Collier, or Darrell Taylor.

      • Sea Mode

        I wanted McLaurin over Blair so bad. Always thought Blair was more a R4 talent and they probably still could have got him there. Oh well…

        • clbradley17

          I was keeping track of the draft on my break at work 2 years ago, and was pulling for us to somehow swing taking McLaurin in rd. 3, and was very disappointed when Washington took him. He was the class of the WRs at the Senior Bowl along with Deebo Samuel, and ran in the 4.3s at the combine.

          Besides the need obvious even to Pete and JS, another reason we could and should have loaded up on good DL again this past FA period, as Rob has pointed out then we could have picked OT, RB, WR or anything with our top picks. Still very happy we got Lewis at G, but we could have taken for instance Chinn to go with Blair and saved our other 2nd rounder, not traded away the farm for Adams and gotten another RB or WR in the 2nd. Chinn is competing with Chase Young for defensive rookie of the year and was taken rd. 2 #64. “Chinn leads all rookies with 94 tackles. He’s further loaded the stat sheet with five pass breakups, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries, and a pair of return touchdowns. Chinn too has assumed significant responsibilities as part of Carolina’s defense, incredibly impressive for someone who was playing FBS football at Southern Illinois just a year ago.

          He’s played 299 snaps in the box, 191 as a slot corner, 21 as an outside cornerback, 188 as a free safety, and 74(!) on the defensive line. Chinn has been ubiquitous. The 6-foot-3, 221-pound freak athlete has 10 pressures on 53 pass-rushing snaps. That 18.9% pressure-creation rate is third among all rookie safeties and linebackers with at least 20 attempts at rushing the passer to date.
          There have been 32 receptions in Chinn’s target area, but those connections have only averaged 8.3 yards, that pedestrian figure is tied for the ninth-lowest among 94 qualifying safeties.”

  2. Elmer

    This is totally off topic. Elmer had to have seriously surgery and I will be unable to participate in SDB for awhile. I will miss Rob’s well written and informative articles and the insightful comments of the SDB community. If it’s awhile before I can rejoin you Happy Holidays, be safe, go Hawks!

    • Kenny Sloth

      Get well soon 12

    • TomLPDX

      Get better, Elmer, we’ll be thinking of you! Check in with us if you can so we know you are doing ok.

    • BobbyK

      Get well soon and please comment/come back when you’re ready. Best wishes and look forward to hearing from you!

    • Big Mike

      Hope everything goes well and the surgery is 100% successful

    • Sea Mode

      Prayers for a speedy recovery, fellow SDB junkie.

    • Rob Staton

      Get well soon Elmer!

    • Volume12

      Stay safe & get well Elmer. 🙏

  3. cha

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    Gregg Bell

    A, um…interesting way to view how this season’s gone for the #Seahawks’ defense, from its coordinator Ken Norton Jr.: “In order to know what good looks like, you’ve got to have bad show up.”

    3:29 PM · Dec 16, 2020

    • KennyBadger

      I remember all the good defenses I’ve ever seen because of how terrible they were at different times. If only he coached for a team that has experienced historically good defenses.

    • Matt

      I can confidently say that no one thinks Ken Norton is splitting the atom anytime soon….

  4. Ashish

    Game plan should be similar/same like 2013 hawks. Protect the ball, win turn over battle, field position, run the ball, bootlegs and RPO. Don’t wait/plan for long pass this is true for rest of the remaining games. Wilson should take what given by defense instead of taking negative plays.

  5. All I see is 12s

    “…so they can put it in a spread sheet.”
    Thank you for that Rob. Made my day.

  6. CL

    Someone just posted this on reddit

    • Rob Staton

      Oh my goodness.

      I don’t know what to say. Devastating news.

      • CL

        And he just became father 20 weeks ago..

        terrible 🙁

        • Rob Staton

          This news has floored me to be honest. I’m sure you’re all the same.

          Cannot believe it.

          • CL

            I don’t have an Instagram account, but my girlfriend does.

            Tyler posted something 5 hours ago, so it wasn’t him I guess.

            Terrible news either way, the woman also lost her life according to twitter…

            • Rob Staton

              Is it possible to time things to be posted on Instagram? I don’t have an account.

              Obviously I feel for whoever this individual is but I also really hope it isn’t our Tyler Ott.

              • CL

                I just googled it and it appears to be possible to time Instagram posts and stories..

                So it seems like we just have to wait and hope for the best :/

                • Big Mike

                  Now at the bottom of the story:

                  Editor’s Note: There is a player for the Seattle Seahawks named Tyler Ott of the same age but a WSP spokesperson confirmed the victim is not the same Ott.

                  • CL

                    Just saw it too.

                    Still a very very sad story, though I’m glad it’s not him.

  7. clbradley17

    2021 Senior Bowl participants
    Note: Roster is subject to change based on announcements from the Senior Bowl.

    Ian Book, Notre Dame
    Sam Ehlinger, Texas
    Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
    Jamie Newman, Wake Forest/Georgia
    Kyle Trask, Florida

    Michael Carter, North Carolina
    Khalil Herbert, Virginia Tech
    Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
    Larry Rountree III, Missouri
    Trey Sermon, Ohio State

    Nico Collins, Michigan
    Frank Darby, Arizona State
    D’Wayne Eskridge, Western Michigan
    Demetric Felton, UCLA
    Trevon Grimes, Florida
    Cade Johnson, South Dakota State
    Racey McMath, LSU
    Josh Palmer, Tennessee
    Amari Rodgers, Clemson
    Ben Skowronek, Notre Dame
    Shi Smith, South Carolina
    Marquez Stevenson, Houston
    Kadarius Toney, Florida
    Tylan Wallace, Oklahoma State
    Austin Watkins Jr., UAB

    Kylen Granson, SMU
    Tre’ McKitty, Georgia
    Tony Poljan, Virginia
    Kenny Yeboah, Mississippi

    Spencer Brown, Northern Iowa
    Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame
    Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State
    Thayer Munford, Ohio State
    Dillon Radunz, North Dakota State
    D’Ante Smith, East Carolina

    Jack Anderson, Texas Tech
    Deonte Brown, Alabama
    Ben Cleveland, Georgia
    Landon Dickerson, Alabama
    Robert Hainsey, Notre Dame
    Zion Johnson, Boston College
    Michal Menet, Penn State
    David Moore, Grambling State
    Josh Myers, Ohio State
    Royce Newman, Mississippi
    Trey Smith, Tennessee

    William Bradley-King, Baylor
    Jonathon Cooper, Ohio State
    Daelin Hayes, Notre Dame
    Patrick Jones II, Pittsburgh
    Malcolm Koonce, Buffalo
    Jeremiah Moon, Florida
    Dayo Odeyingbo, Vanderbilt
    Hamilcar Rashed Jr., Oregon State
    Quincy Roche, Miami
    Elerson Smith, Northern Iowa
    Shaka Toney, Penn State

    Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest
    Ta’Quon Graham, Texas
    Malik Herring, Georgia
    Tarron Jackson, Coastal Carolina
    Osa Odighizuwa, UCLA
    Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Notre Dame
    Levi Onwuzurike, Washington
    Cameron Sample, Tulane
    Payton Turner, Houston
    Rashad Weaver, Pittsburgh
    Marvin Wilson, Florida State

    Tuf Borland, Ohio State
    K.J. Britt, Auburn
    Baron Browning, Ohio State
    Riley Cole, South Alabama
    Jabril Cox, LSU
    Tony Fields II, West Virginia
    Monty Rice, Georgia
    Charles Snowden, Virginia
    Grant Stuard, Houston

    Tariq Castro-Fields, Penn State
    DJ Daniel, Georgia
    Thomas Graham Jr., Oregon
    Bryan Mills, North Carolina Central
    Elijah Molden, Washington
    Aaron Robinson, UCF
    Robert Rochell, Central Arkansas
    Keith Taylor, Washington
    Ambry Thomas, Michigan
    Kary Vincent Jr., LSU
    Mark Webb, Georgia
    Rodarius Williams, Oklahoma State

    Joshuah Bledsoe, Missouri
    Jaquan Brisker, Penn State
    Shawn Davis, Florida
    Divine Deablo, Virginia Tech
    Tyree Gillespie, Missouri
    Richie Grant, UCF
    Damar Hamlin, Pittsburgh
    Richard LeCounte III, Georgia
    Hamsah Nasirildeen, Florida State
    Christian Uphoff, Illinois State
    James Wiggins, Cincinnati

    Jose Borregales, K, Miami
    Riley Patterson, K, Memphis

    • Gohawks5151

      Definitely some names on this list to keep an eye on. Man… My guy Hamilcar Rashed needs to have a good showing. People criticized his size last year and I think he got too big before the season. Lost some of what made him special.

  8. clbradley17

    For anyone who’s interested and has the NFL network, next Mon. night at 8:15 PM there’s a NFL Films Presents Then and Now half hour show, and it says that the first segment is Catching up with Seattle’s all-time leading rusher, Shaun Alexander.

  9. Rokas

    Sick coincidence.

  10. Sea Mode


    Tom Pelissero

    The #Lions plan to interview former #Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff next week for their GM job, per sources.

    Dimitroff, 54, is a two-time NFL Executive of the Year. He built the ATL team that reached the Super Bowl four years ago and was part of two championships in New England.

    I’m neither for nor against it, I guess just surprised that the same lot of names gets recycled over and over by the NFL teams. You could say it’s because they value experience, or because of a fear of the unknown, or some combination of both.

    • Sea Mode

      Tom Pelissero

      Dimitroff is the second former GM known to be on Detroit’s interview list, along with Rick Smith. They also have interviewed three internal candidates and spoke with ESPN analyst Louis Riddick yesterday. All interviews with external candidates are virtual until the season ends.

      • Rob Staton

        I don’t understand why Louis Riddick gets interviews.

        Being on the TV shouldn’t make you a candidate for these jobs. Did he get GM interviews before joining ESPN???

        • cha

          Matt Millen says hi.

          • Rob Staton

            I could understand Mayock. He really put in the work for a draft. Did all the pro days. Clearly was respected by the coaches (Belichick etc) and would put his views out there for scrutiny.

            These people who call games and just pop on to talk about the topic of the day? What justification is there to be put in charge of a whole operation??

            • cha

              The symmetry with Detroit having hired Millen and putting Riddick’s name in the hat is very interesting. We all saw the results of hiring Millen.

              What’s also symmetrical from my viewpoint – I never cared for Millen’s color analysis, and I don’t care for Riddick’s either.

            • icb12

              While I confess to not lean not one way or another on this, to be fair to the man.

              Riddick has a bachelors in economics, several years as a pro scout for the Washington Football team, several years as director of pro personnel for the Washington Football Team, as well as holding the same positions for the eagles. Not to mention he has actually played in the league and extensively been involved in the draft and draft coverage.

              Honestly, whether he gets the job or not, I can see why teams might kick the tires there looking for an outside the box solution.

              • TomLPDX

                I’d be more interested in Rick Smith personally. He got a raw deal in Houston and I’d love to see him get back into a GM role to see what he’s got. Definitely doing the due diligence on Riddick.

                • icb12

                  I thought Smith left the Texans because his wife had cancer and he wanted to be with her? Was there more to that? I mean- yeah in and of itself that is an incredibly raw deal, but was there more to that?

                  And just for arguments sake- Prior to Smith becoming the youngest GM ever, and heading up arguably the most successful run the texans have had, Smith had a Resume similar and less impressive than Riddick does now.

                  He was DB coach, turned director of pro personnel for the broncos.

                  But yeah- agreed that Smith would be the more qualified, less risky, experienced choice. He ran the ship in houston for what.. 12 years? I see him as a great fit with Atlanta.

                  • TomLPDX

                    I thought he wanted to come back to Houston after his wife passed away and instead, BOB became the GM if I recall correctly. I do like the Atlanta fit too.

                    Not a real fan of Riddick to be honest. I think Rob is right, mainly because he is at ESPN but who knows.

              • Rob Staton

                I don’t dispute any of that.

                But there are plenty of other people who were once pro personnel directors. He was fired in Philly. The only reason he is getting an interview for a GM job is because he is on ESPN.

        • Darnell

          More experience in NFL front offices working in personnel than John Lynch and Jack Easterby prior to getting their high profile jobs.

          • Rob Staton

            So what?

            Jack Easterby is not the GM. He is someone who was wormed his way into a nondescript job with Houston and has the owner wrapped around his finger.

            Just because John Lynch was given a job as GM doesn’t mean Louis Riddick should get a job.

            • Pran

              See from Lions standpoint.. what to lose? nothing changes worst case.

    • TomLPDX

      Probably doing their due diligence. Dimitroff wasn’t a horrible GM and probably has a lot to offer. It just got stale in ATL for him.

  11. Sea Mode

    That’s one way to put it, I guess… 😂

  12. cha


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    Ben Standig


    Washington practice update per team PR:

    QB Alex Smith (calf), RB Antonio Gibson (toe), LB Kevin Pierre-Louis (ankle) are at in attendance but not participating in individual drills.

    No Smith means 1st-team reps for Haskins.

    Meanwhile, S Deshazor Everett is not at practice.

    10:26 AM · Dec 17, 2020

  13. Phil

    I enjoyed the video. I think the Hawks’ Defense will be the key in winning this one. They will smother the Football Team’s run game, and then really heat up the pressure packages on their passing game.
    >I could see the Football Team being held to just 2 or 3 Field Goals.

    *The offense just needs to make sure to not give up turnovers by being overly aggressive. Take what is given. Start the game by only trying quick stuff…then if it looks like the O-Line can hang in there against this great D-Line, then consider trying an occasional shot. But Schotty and Russ can’t just come out trying big shots until they know if their O-Line can hold up.

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