The 2017 draft class podcast and thank you

Below you’ll find the final podcast of the 2017 draft season. Kenny and I run through Seattle’s class and discuss why it should be considered a really good haul for the Seahawks.

This will be my final post for a while. I want to thank the great community here for making this place what it is. When I started writing the blog in 2008 I never imagined I’d still be doing it nearly 10 years later. This is completely 100% down to you. Your contributions, civility and support.

We’ll start again during training camp, into pre-season and then dig into the new college season. If you only discovered the blog in the weeks leading up to the draft — come and check it out from September onwards. It’s arguably the best time to talk draft as we identify possible targets for the Seahawks.

I’ll leave you for now with the podcast below. It’s time to reintroduce myself to my wife, three-year-old son and three-month old daughter. Thank you again for everything.


  1. Ed

    Come on Rob, quit making us ask a way to treat you and your family for all the hard work. Insert donation button and watch it flow. Some toys for the kids, some jewelry for the wife, some Hawks swag for you. Get some!!

    • Hawks22Fun

      +1 – …to infinity!

      Your efforts are astounding Rob. I agree it’s time to allow us to give back, with more than words…

      It’s voluntary from us, and you deserve more recognition for being so accurate and on it…

      • Hawkfan086


        • Redhawk87

          Ditto! Even if it’s us buying stuff from amazon for your family. We love your hard work and dedication. Please let us support you. I know you don’t need our support for your livelihood, but it’s something we want to do.
          Thank you for all your time and hard work. Have a great summer and I hope we get this option from you. 🙂

        • Jeremy


    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      You know he wants to roll in a Bugatti Veyron… make it happen!

      • Myfanwy365

        No such thing as a Veyron in Yorkshire

    • Kenny Sloth


    • Kenny Sloth

      Hey, but if you guys are really trying to do it, he does see a portion of the proceeds of nfl gear bought from the banner link on the side of the page.

      The new hawks draft cap is pretty sweet.

      Win-win for everyone

      • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

        I love my new Seahawks T-shirt. Got the High performance Nike and it is both warmer and cooler. Cough up, ya lurkers. Do what you can!

  2. Preston

    Thank you Rob for your tireless effort and quality analysis. Something you don’t get from TeamStream anymore. Enjoy the offseason!

  3. sdcoug

    A tear slowly trickles down my cheek as I read “this will be my final post for a while.”

    Thanks for the great year Rob and posters. Until we meet again…

  4. No frickin' clue

    Thanks Rob! Your posts and the discussions they generate are invaluable for Hawks fans. And not just for draft day either. You make us think holistically about this team and where we hope to be in 1, 3, 5 years. Enjoy your family time!

  5. bankhawk

    As always Rob, thank you seems to fall short when considering the dedication and devotion you bring to your endeavors. Make the most of this family time, and thanks to the missus for being the understanding soul she must truly be to let us have you *on extended loan* for so much of the year.

    And to the regulars as well, thanks for the richness of perspective you bring and for keeping the usual *net-junk* out of it. Feeling blessed to have such a congenial space as my on-line Hawk-hangout!

  6. Hoberk Unce

    Another draft year, another amazing body of analytics work. Thanks for everything, Rob.

  7. Hawk Eye

    no new posts!
    I look forward to visiting the site and seeing something new, reading comments from a pretty civil and well informed fan base. I will either need a new hobby or start to do all the things my wife keeps asking me to do.

    Really hope you find a way to turn this into enough of a cash cow for you that you can afford to put more time into it (family obligations taken care of first) and we can all enjoy more of your insightful analysis and informed observations.
    all the best until you post again!

  8. John_s

    Have a great time with the family.

    Thank you for everything You do.

  9. Mike

    All the best, mate. This is a top 10 website for me. Thank you for all your hard work and all you have created. You add an extra dimension to my fandom.

    Enjoy the time off. Cheers!

    • Coug1990

      Only top 10? What is wrong with you?

      • Ed

        He couged it!! Playing coug, couldn’t help it. ha

  10. rowlandice

    Yay! Rob is taking some well deserved time off with family! Boo! Rob won’t be posting for a while. One of my daily web visits is gone for a while. Maybe some open threads or guest posts would be in order?

    • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

      Sometimes, we do not properly appreciate something until we lose it. Here is an opportunity to see how much this site, and Rob, of course, make a difference in our daily lives. Several times a day we are a community and enriching our lives. You can not put a value on that.

  11. Ty the Guy

    Best Use of the InterWeb!

    Appreciate the blog, Rob. Thank you for your time and efforts.

    Thank you to the other regular visitors, you all bring great perspectives, wile remaining civil and open-minded.

    Be sure to thank your wife for her sacrifices Rob. And make sure your daughter’s first words are either “Go Hawks!” or “Post to Baldwin.”

    • BobbyK


  12. Poko

    We had a great time!Thank you so much!

  13. BobbyK

    The only thing that could make this blog better is something out of Rob’s control… The Seahawks having an extra first round pick.

    • Troy

      You know they would just trade it down anyways…

      • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

        Three second round picks!

  14. Chris A.

    Thank you so much Rob. This is my favorite website on the entire world wide web. Every article I’ve read the past 3 drafts is a joy to read. You do a tremendous job and I believe if you ran your own scouting agency​, you would put others to shame. Enjoy your family time, I will be stalking the site daily for the first article of next draft season.

    • Hawkster

      Hear hear!

  15. Rowdy

    Best blog online hands down. It’s actually hard to read the comments on other blogs but with the community you created here I usually read all of them and gain a lot of perspective on players I would normally never look at. Props to everyone for the informed opinions!

  16. D-OZ

    Enjoy your break and well deserved time with your family Rob!!!! Best site ever. And thank everyone else for your contribution’s. Twice a day visit for me. I’ll be hanging out. 🙂

  17. D-OZ

    Oh, GO HAWKS!!!!

  18. 1976HawkFan


    I will miss the daily updates, insights and overall analysis you provide. I concur 100% provide a donation button so we can give back or tell us when you’re coming to the states so we can organize a “Seahawksdraftblo” get together at a Hawk Fan Hot Spot and let the pints flow gratis to you. Again, thanks for all you do for the 12’s!

    • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

      Everybody, buy a shirt! Or a Hat!

  19. Old but Slow

    Looking forward to a period of painful withdrawal for a few weeks, but it will only make me stronger. Thanks for everything Rob, and I will look forward to getting into the 2018 draft.

  20. Nem Beselek

    “I want to thank the great community here for making this place what it is.”

    I just want to echo the comments of all of the other regular posters on this blog . The depth of the scouting and analysis that you do for the Hawks is as far as I can tell without peer. As far as I can tell, any comments that get posted on this blog simply follow your lead, as you set the tone for everything that follows. Thanks for making this one of my favorite sites. Can’t wait till you start up again.

    • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

      We should thank the excellent posters. Most of you really bring it. It is Rob at the head, setting the tone and creating the conversation. Then you all make the best comments section I have seen on the internet.

  21. Darth12er

    Thx Rob, already looking forward to next years draft!

  22. HoJo

    Have enjoyed your site for two years now. I respect your opinions on players and the Seahawks’ strategies used in choosing the players they do. Your opinions are always backed up with facts and examples. I appreciate you providing a bit of film. I don’t like watching a lot of film though so I like that you do that for us. I will miss your frequent postings until you start up again. Enjoy the extra time with your family.

  23. PPast

    Echo all the thanks.

  24. BRSeahawks

    Thanks a lot, congratulations and I hope you had just as much fun as us, readers, throughout the proccess. My best wishes for you and your family in this break and hopefully you can come back for another fun season for Seahawks.

  25. CanuckHawk

    Rob, thank you for the outstanding content and the thoughtfully moderated community you have created. Well done! Enjoy your family.

  26. Donald

    Thank you Rob for all of your time and hard work, we all appreciate it very much!

    May I suggest adding a user ID check when we sign in, to verify the readers are not enemy undercover GMs spying to get Seahawk type players. This is the only possible reason why Kevin King and Obi got taken right before us. 🙂

    Your new motto for next year: Make Seahawks Great Again!

    Thank you very much, enjoy your time off!

  27. Comfect

    Thanks so much Rob! Enjoy the time off with the family.

  28. bigsmooth27

    Can’t thank you enough for all the time and work you put into this outstanding blog. I wish you and your family health and happiness.

  29. Robertlas vegas

    Your hard work has not gone unnoticed I can’t thank you enough for what you do on this site and your effort behind it.

  30. Awsi Dooger

    Darn shame you didn’t become a Dolphins fan. There is nothing remotely comparable among those blogs.

    The Seahawks are now far enough removed from that 2013 title that a resurgence is possible. Not a guarantee but at least they have gotten out of the troubled waters. That 2014 playoff run and Super Bowl outcome were so critical for Seattle, given the historical ramifications of a failure against New England. Everyone is well aware of the recent flops by Super Bowl losers the following season. What is seldom mentioned is how poorly the most recently dethroned champion fares. That was Seattle’s predicament in 2015 and the reason I didn’t expect much from them in those playoffs. I covered the wager on the Vikings and then bet very heavily on the Panthers a week later.

    Until this season only three teams in NFL history had ever successfully regained the title one season after being dethroned. A George Halas Bears team did it in the early ’40s, then the Switzer Cowboys in ’95, and the Belichick Patriots in 2003. Somehow the media never mentions this trend and in fact that dethroned team is somehow a popular pick. It’s like everybody shies away from the defending champ but has no trouble backing the winner from two years earlier, even if that is historically an inept choice. In the ’70s and ’80s those teams basically couldn’t make the playoffs, or win a playoff game if they did. I had a field day wagering against those teams once I moved to Las Vegas in 1984.

    However, it’s turned around lately mostly because of Bill Belichick. Somehow he has now overcome this disadvantage as often — twice — as the rest of the league combined over 90 seasons. The Patriots in 2016 matched their 2003 feat.

    Barry Switzer never gets enough credit for that 1995 accomplishment. In fact, that’s one of the great litmus tests in sports…opinion of Barry Switzer as a football coach. My friends and I have used it to remarkable benefit in Las Vegas sports betting circles. We’ll test a newcomer to the scene by subtle use of a question regarding Barry Switzer. If the guy immediately begins the conventional wisdom rant that Switzer did nothing but win with Jimmy Johnson’s players, we allow a private smile and chuckle among ourselves, knowing that we’ve found another bet-against gem. However it doesn’t happen nearly as dependably as one might imagine. The crowd drawn to that pursuit on a serious basis is a substantial cut above the norm. I’ve learned a ton.

    • Old but Slow

      Maybe the Dolphins need an Awsi blogger.

  31. Josh emmett

    You the man Rob!

  32. CharlieTheUnicorn

    Thee are 11 RBs and 2 FBs on the roster right now…. who makes the cut?
    Carson, Chris
    Collins, Alex
    Davis, Mike
    Farmer, George
    Lacy, Eddie
    Madden, Tre
    Magee, Terrence
    McKissic, J.D.
    Pope, Troymaine
    Prosise, C.J.
    Rawls, Thomas

    Cottom, Brandon
    Johnson, Malcolm

    • Myfanwy365



      Not seen anything of Carson or Brown to know if they’ve got a shot. 1st 3 RB’s are surely set barring some major injury/catastrophe

      • Isaac

        I think the real question should be which one of these players plays a roll on special teams.

  33. Old but Slow

    You can add Algernon Brown to the FB list. The BYU fullback was signed as udfa.

    And he is promising.

  34. D-OZ

    Interesting. Hawks sign DE David Bass. Played DE for the Bears and most recently LB for the Titans in their 3/4…

    • C-Dog

      He was coached by the new DL coach Clint Hurtt in Chicago. Probably adds competition to LEO.

    • nichansen01

      I thought they’d add another DE

    • Del tre

      Is that a goodbye Cassius Marsh signing?

      • C-Dog

        Not necessarily. Probably just a sign that they only had three LEOs on the roster, and wanted to add another for camp.

  35. D-OZ

    Report; Jarran Reed linked to domestic assault investigation by BPD. 3:30 am the night before the draft. Ouch…

    • C-Dog

      If he’s charged, he could be looking at an automatic six game suspension. Seattle might consider shopping for a FA nose tackle. Dan Williams and Roy Miller are sitting out there.

      • RealRhino2

        You get suspended just for being charged? What a stupid policy.

        • abark

          not a stupid policy

    • nichansen01

      Oh no…

      • Hawk Eye

        does not look like a promising start to training camp

  36. JakeB

    Thanks, Rob. Enjoy your summer!

  37. Lord Snow

    Thank you for this website. It is the best football site out there to discuss all things football, not just seahawk football. Having read your blog from the beginning, you’ve taken something you are passionate about and created something incredibly informative and entertaining. You have gained a well deserved, respected reputation out there.

    Best wishes to you and your family.

  38. Steve Nelsen

    Thank you, Rob. Your site is a blessing to all of us who seek thoughtful analysis and knowledgeable, friendly Seahawks conversation.

  39. Daniel Bryan

    Thank you, Rob! I can’t wait for the next piece you write. Best wishes to you and your family!

  40. Nolan

    Rob excellent job with the site I have been around since nearly the beginning and I love this website the internet won’t be the same until you return. Enjoy the time off but don’t forget us

  41. Dutchenstein12

    Thanks for everything Rob, you made this the best draft season ever for me!

    Quick question, I know you said if we buy a draft hat from your link you receive compensation. Is the same true if we click on the Seahawks fan gear link that goes to NFL shop? I’m planning on buying some gear soon and would love for it to help you.

    Enjoy your well deserved break, can’t wait to read your thoughts on next years class!

    • Rob Staton

      Yes, any of the links here will help with running costs for the site.

      All help is appreciated but don’t feel obliged to do it. Go to wherever is cheapest!

      • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

        Do not go where it is cheapest. Buy everything here.

        Nice for you to say that. All credit to Rob, the Saint, but FTS!

        Any gear you buy anywhere else will be cursed. Buy all your gear here and only here!

        My new Seahawk high performance T-shirt is blessed. It is the only new gear I have ever bought, and I feel two inches taller when I am wearing it. The women love me and my belly disappears. It is the most comfortable shirt I have ever had.

        • Dutchenstein12

          Haha I completely agree! I just bought a couple of items of Hawks gear through the link and will make sure I continue to buy everything else through it as well. It is the least I can do to show the appreciation I have for Rob’s incredible content! Next year I plan on writing into 710 to encourage them to be smart and bring Rob on as a correspondent (although honestly he should have his own damn segment).

          • All I see is 12s

            Well, Sheil Capadia kind of rips him off. So they get robs opinion opinion indirectly…

  42. Mike

    Thanks for everything Rob…this site was invaluable to me in brightening up the gloomy winter months leading up to the draft. Think I’ll take your suggestion and check in during the college football season to watch in awe as the community discovers future NFL gems.

    Seems like there is a couple of “Mike’s” that post I’ll switch my screen name next season to avoid confusion..

    Have a great summer everyone!!

  43. Turp

    You are the best Rob. Thank you!

  44. Jake


    Thanks so much for all your work. Between work and family, I have time to read/do one thing for personal enjoyment and that’s read your blog. Thanks for taking what little time remains to you to produce it. I really appreciate it.


  45. Rob Staton

    Thank you for all the nice comments here guys. I wish there was an adequate way to express just how grateful I am. It means a lot to me and I sincerely appreciate it.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Be seein you mate

  46. Rik

    Thank you for another great draft season. This is the best blog and best community in sports, and it’s all thanks to you, Rob.

  47. Aaron

    Thank you so much Rob! Have a fantastic and well deserved summer holiday with your wife and kids. Look forward to hearing from you during training camp. Go Hawks!!!

  48. Shadow

    Thank you so much for all of your hard work, Rob!

  49. AlaskaHawk

    Thank you Rob – I always enjoy your articles and website. Would you give some consideration to letting a few of your fans provide a weekly article? I think we have a few aspiring writers and analysts here.

    • Rob Staton

      Of course.

  50. Knights who say Ni

    Rob, A big thank you to all your tireless work that you do for the blog and us. The best site on the internet and the first thing I check in the morning. Thanks again and have fun with the family.

    FYI, here are some releases just posted at Rotoworld…

    Seahawks waived/released RB Terrence Magee, CB Perrish Cox, TE Chris Briggs, C Ross Burbank, DT Rodney Coe, RB George Farmer, WR Jamel Johnson and K John Lunsford.
    Magee was a depth player promoted to the active roster last season out of necessity. Already an ex-Seahawk once before, Cox was just added in the offseason on a non-guaranteed deal. PFF rated him as the No. 118 cornerback out of 119 qualifying players across 625 snaps for Tennessee last season.

    • Del tre

      Glad to see Perrish Cox gone, no one else of note really.

  51. yimba

    The Eagles might be cutting Dorial-Green Beckham. I really REALLY hope we sign him. even just to give him a shot to prove himself in camp. Dont know why but ive been rooting for the guy and think he has crazy talent even though he hasnt been able to show it. YET

    • Kenny Sloth

      First high schooler I scouted.

      While I was in high school

    • Coleslaw

      Sweet! We’ve definitely shown we’re open to reclamation projects, and he could be that X receiver or #1 If he turns it around

    • AlaskaHawk

      I was pretty high on him when he was drafted. We could always use a big receiver.

      • Saxon

        Couldn’t make it with two teams that really needed his services. That should tell you something about the guy. I’ll pass.

  52. nichansen01

    Parrish Cox no longer a seahawk.

    • nichansen01

      Good riddance.


      The Seahawks made roster moves Tuesday, signing defensive end David Bass and releasing eight players: cornerback Perrish Cox, tight end Chris Briggs, center Ross Burbank, defensive tackle Rodney Coe, running back George Farmer, receiver Jamel Johnson, kicker John Lunsford and running back Terrence Magee.

      • nichansen01

        Only name there I don’t like to see going is Lunsford.

  53. Easthawk

    Rob, thanks for being a Seahawks fan and running this awesome site! Please do put up a donate button or wishlist buying or something for us to give back to you (and your awesome family)! Thank you!!

    • DJ 1/2 Way (Sea/PDX)

      He is not going to do it. Buy a T- shirt or hat.

      • HawkTalker #1

        Humm . . . same thing I heard about Trump running for President and look how that turned out . .

        • Kenny Sloth


  54. The Hawk is Howling

    Rob you most definitely are the Man! You’re straight brilliant! The Sunny Side of the Street is wherever you are walking M8!

    Thanks for being so informative and super cool! Us Hawk People are so fortunate to have you on our side!

    Go Hawks!

  55. Coleslaw

    Okay, LeGarrette Blount is still out there.. 18 TDs last season. 30 years old.. Why not bring him in, ENSURE the running game returns with Lacy, Blount, Rawls, Prosise. Send Collins, Pope, Carson to the PS and hope a couple pass through. Seems like we can find a nice young back (or a couple) every year, so why not risk them when you can get a proven workhorse in a narrow championship window?

    • Peanut

      Probably can’t afford him, thats my guess.

    • cha

      Feels like if the Hawks can’t get it done with Lacy, Rawls, Prosise and Collins/Carson, there’s a bigger problem than not signing Blount.

      If we’re talking scrap heap bargain shopping, I’d think maybe the Hawks could try a pass rushing specialist role like Elvis Dumervil or Devin Taylor. A small handful of sacks for a million or two? Yes please.

      Maybe a Sen’Darrick Marks to remind Reed his starting spot isn’t untouchable.

      Or blog super favorite Vincent Jackson. Why not bring him in as a summer tryout type and see if he’s still got anything left? Maybe would give the Hawks the luxury of PUP-ing Lockett and saving him for a deep playoff run.

      • Coleslaw

        It’s not that they can’t get it done with just those 3, but with Blount we’d probably never have a game under 100 yards rushing. Blount would be the best goal line back on the team immediately

        • cha

          That’s exactly my point. They should have 100 yards rushing per game with the guys they have on the roster now, and have no trouble with goal line rushing with Rawls and Lacy.

          It’s moot anyway. Blount has been tendered by the Pats and the Hawks probably won’t want to give compensation and $ for him.

    • AlaskaHawk

      If that is Blount with New England he only got a million dollars and a superbowl ring + bonus last year. As NE proved last year, they had three good backs available. But I think Lacey already fills his role for the Seahawks.

  56. Ukhawk

    Thanks Rob for a wonderful year and for the forum u provide, your hardwork & thoughts you share. Really genuinely appreciated

  57. Ishmael

    Stirling couple of days for the Seahawks with the Reed charge and Frank Clark behaving like an *Edited* on Twitter.

    • vrtkolman

      Comes with the territory when you take risks on players like Clark.

      • Del tre

        What territory? That we drafted someone who has been victimized by yhe terrible culture we have created on both sides of this issue? Her article paints him as guilty, every accusation of domestic violence essentially equates to a guilty, seems like an easy out to go after black players mostly (anyone notice how mannings accusations didn’t stick?). We can’t even have a conversation about domestic violence in the context of women being the perpatrators (which is actually more common but less reported). Its bad for feminism because it paints women as helpless creatures and its bad for men because it makes it so easy to be falsely accused and have your life ruined.

        • vrtkolman

          Not that I disagree, but his feelings on the matter are inconsequential here. He made a bad career move, and this is no doubt a headache for Seahawks management right now.

          • Del tre

            Yeah i should have for sure added to the end that he should have kept his thoughts private.

    • Del tre

      What has he done? Looking at it now i don’t see anything noteworthy

      • Ishmael

        Attacking a female reporter on Twitter who reported on Clark’s domestic abuse case, and then offering a pathetically mealy-mouthed non-apology.

        Aside from anything else, it takes a special kind of stupid for an NFL player to call a a career in almost any other industry short lived.

        • Del tre

          He should have kept guess thoughts to himself thats for sure

          • Del tre

            His not guess

        • nichansen01

          Attacking? I wouldn’t really call it an attack. He made a joke in bad taste. Deleted it. Apologized and moved on.

          Seahawks players have a recent history of clashing with media. This is no different.

          • Ishmael

            Attacking might be the wrong word, but it’s pretty clearly bullying. Plenty of people have described it as a threatening tweet. And he absolutely didn’t apologise. Saying sorry if I offended you isn’t an apology, especially not when he followed it up by liking multiple tweets from people absolving him of any guilt or blame.

    • Rob Staton

      Please refrain from using the kind of language you used to describe Frank Clark, Ishmael. It’s not how we roll over here.

      And for what it’s worth, I think this is a total non-story that has already outstayed its welcome. Someone sent an ill-advised tweet. Somebody else got offended (as people tend to do these days). Welcome to Earth, 2017.

      • Ishmael

        Fair enough, apologies for the language.

        Totally disagree with you on the tweet though. It’s not a simple case of someone being offended, it’s Clark bullying a woman for writing something he didn’t like two years ago, writing a junk ‘apology’ when called on it, and then undoing even that by liking multiple tweets saying he had nothing to apologise for – and putting the blame on her. Guarantee the Hawks front office has torn strips off him for it.

        It’s not the end of the world, but it’s just grubby.

        • Rob Staton

          It’s a total non-event that has somehow escalated into a thing. Time for everyone to move on.

      • Nathan

        I don’t get what’s so bad about the tweet.

        He makes that to a male reporter no-one bats an eyelid.

        • All I see is 12s

          For what it’s worth, having read the article I have the feeling that Frank Clark was probably the most upset by the characterization that he was a repeat or serial offender. The author makes the assertion that he may have done this type of thing before and then she goes on to refer to it as fact. Having a stablished a non fact, she then Compares Clark to Ray Rice and Hardy. As Clark has stated, he has worked really hard to move past this is very unfortunate incident that hewas very much at fault for. Anyway, I can understand why he would be upset with this report. That said, he should have just kept it to himself.poking the bear will only bring it out a storm of self-righteous indignation from those who look only to point fingers instead create Solutions.

          • Rob Staton

            I think you’re right. Also lost is that the reporter in question tweeted a comparison yesterday between Frank Clark and his apology and the language used by Greg Hardy when he was claiming he was a changed man. She quickly deleted this. Frank’s tweet was ill advised but his deleted tweet was screen grabbed and shared. Nobody picked up on this one by the writer. And in my opinion, Frank has every right to be annoyed at comparisons to Hardy.

            • All I see is 12s

              Spot on. This relatively obscure reporter has been thrusted into the national spotlight and she seems to be enjoying it. Most of these athletes need to just lose their twitter. Nothing good will come of it. Twitter is not the place for reasonable discourse or rational thought .

              That said, I am feeling very old. Apparently “clean my fish bowl” is some sort of sexual reference. I had no idea. Frank should never have said that to that reporter or to anyone else. I understand he was mad , but come on . He was educated at the University of Michigan . He should know better. You never address a lady that way. A bad look for a player that I’ve come to like.

              • Rob Staton

                Unless I’m mistaken, Frank actually does have a fish tank. Someone told me he’d tweeted about it before or put something on Instagram. So I’m not convinced there was any hidden meaning.

  58. Sea Mode

    Shoot, looks like we are losing Ed Dodds

    Kimberley A. Martin

    Sources: #Jets sr. dir of college scouting Rex Hogan expected to join #Colts. So is #Seahawks exec Ed Dodds

    6:41 PM – 8 May 2017

    Set to enter his 11th season with the Seahawks, Dodds was promoted to senior executive personnel director in 2015, as he previously served as a national scout. He’s highly regarded throughout league circles, and it’s been reported that he’s close with Ballard.

  59. nichansen01

    So much for a drama free offseason

  60. Saxon

    Hey Rob, I sent you an Amazon Gift card to your address. I hope the rest of the guys here will consider doing the same. You deserve it. Thanks for your hard work!

    Have a great offseason!

    • Rob Staton

      Wow, thank you so much! That’s amazing! I really appreciate that!

    • Kenny Sloth

      Ha! Take that banner ads!

      You’re awesome Sax.

      • HawkTalker #1


    • Ed

      Don’t have amazon or use amazon, how do you do that?

      • HawkTalker #1

        Just send me some cash and I can help you out.

        • CharlieTheUnicorn

          +100 dollar bills yo

      • Del tre

        Google it, im fairly sure you can purchase the giftcard off amazon and send it, creating an account is easy.

    • HawkTalker #1



      Great call. Who needs PayPal when you can just send an Amazon gift card straightaway to the BritHawk!!! 🙂

  61. Daniel Bryan


    I’m watching RAW from this past Monday from London. I see a guy front row with a very obvious Seahawks t-shirt. Please tell me that’s you at ring side. Also please tell me you’re not one of those smarks that cheer the heels and boo the babyfaces. Just say it ain’t so…

    • Rob Staton

      It wasn’t me, sorry. But I know someone who was there!

    • Volume12

      Smark don’t stand for smart mark anymore. Now its just super mark.

      Wish RAW would give London better shows. Incredibly talented roster, but sh*t bookers and writers. Fire Kevin Dunn! He’s toxic to the industry.

      I was always taught that showing your respect or like for the heel is to boo them. However, there’s very few that can even generate heat anymore. KO, Miz, Jinder, Alexa. That’s about it.

      • Volume12

        * Samoa Joe

        • Volume12

          Roman too. But for whatever reason, the ‘E won’t steer into the hate. They could have on their hands the biggest, most despised heel that wrestling has ever seen since ‘Hot Rod,’ the Free birds, or Ric Flair. All of them sold merch and put a**es in the seats too.

  62. HawkTalker #1

    Come on guys, the 2017 draft is over. Why haven’t we seen any 2018 mock drafts yet?

    • Kenny Sloth

      I think we’re just collectively simmering in the euphoria of this draft class.

      Projecting positional fits and the like.

      I know I daydream about our nascar package next year everyday

      • Misfit74

        This. NASCAR rush from hell this year. Our D-line is stacked. If we can now cover the short passing game we will be devastating against offenses.

        • Robert

          Our End rush is phenomenal, but was thwarted often last year because the QB could often step up in the pocket to avoid the rush and buy time. The addition of Malik as a 3T rusher could have a massive impact on our overall D this year by taking away a few of those critical plays each game where the QB is able to step up in the pocket and fire a big completion.

      • Del tre

        The goal line package is going to be unmovable

  63. Forty20

    Good read on the official site about the state of the war room through the third round and the reactions to each of the four picks made. The article suggests that at least one player selected between our picks of Delano Hill and Nazair Jones was someone the Seahawks coveted.

    Picks 96-101:
    Kenny Golladay (WR)
    Cordrea Tankersley (CB)
    Chad Williams (WR)
    Rasual Douglas (CB)
    Jonnu Smith (TE)
    Brendan Langley (CB)

    Tankersley and Douglas were both spoken about in depth on SDB while I recall Williams and Smith coming up in passing at the very least.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Cordrea Tankersley (CB) name standout as someone we have talked about on the blog previously and had many thing we think Seattle would be looking for…. in a CB. I had thought they would draft a TE, but they didn’t…. so maybe Jannu Smith was the guy? (shrug)

      after further review
      this guy

      • Sea Mode

        Could make sense since they just signed a TE:


        That didn’t take long – @b_wwilliams is signing with the @Seahawks. Congrats, Bryce!

        5:00 PM – 10 May 2017

        • Kenny Sloth


          Rob had Jonnu Smith pegged as a target all year

          • RealRhino2

            TE makes some sense. There was also Schneider saying they were trying to trade back into the very top of a round on Day 3, but then their two targets went off the board back-to-back at the top of the round, so they gave up on the idea. Kittle and Butt went off near the top of R5.

            So it seems they wanted to draft a TE, which makes sense not only b/c of the contract situations of Luke and JG, but because I’ve heard rumblings that Vannett is maybe more interested in living the life than in working hard to be good.

            • nichansen01

              Rasul Douglas most likely

    • Misfit74

      I believe we liked Chad Williams and had him in for a visit.

  64. nichansen01

    McDowell is now designated as a DE and Cash Marsh is designated as a LB.

  65. Hawkeyes

    I think now is the best time to try to trade for josh Gordon. Give the cavs a 6th or 7th rounder and hope our coaches can make him into what he is supposed to be. He is living with his agent and he posted on Instagram a picture and looked like the hulk. This could be like the lynch trade. Doesn’t hurt giving it a go

  66. Coleslaw

    So we don’t have Skylar Howard or Jordan Roos. Full 82 man roster.

    • nichansen01

      It’s says UFDA pending.

      Otha Peters, Nick Usher, Skyler Howard, Tyrone Swoopes, Jordan Roos will probably be added after rookie camp I presume.

      • nichansen01


  67. CharlieTheUnicorn

    “Daryl Washington was recently reinstated by the NFL, but won’t return as a member of the Arizona Cardinals. On Thursday the team announced it released Washington.”

    Should Seattle consider bringing in this guy for depth? Do we really need more LB depth?

  68. Myfanwy365

    Anyone listen to the Around the NFL podcast – Chris Wesseling diagnosed with Oesophogal Cancer 🙁

    • Rob Staton

      Sad news

    • RealRhino2

      The Mailman! That’s terrible.

      • Myfanwy365

        Yeah, bummed me out. Someone set a gofundme page for his bar tab as he’s off to Tybee

        Raised $2,300 already, only had a target of $500 –

  69. Kenny Sloth

    Scouting the SDB Community 3.0

    Another draft year is in the books and the 2017 scouting season has come to a close. Let’s take a look back at some of our regular contributors and what they bring to the table as draft scout prospects.

    Robert Staton; Hard-hat, lunch pail type. Reliable, consistent. You can leave this guy on an island in the Atlantic and watch him go to work. Cites Tony Pauline as someone whose game he admires. Leader and deeply invested in his community. The type you can build a franchise around.

    Volume 12; Has been scouting longer than many in the pool have been alive. Unparalleled awareness and ability to read a draft. Excellent vision and an absolute film rat, notably filling binders with notes and tape study. Character is indisputable, has used recent hardships to motivate himself to spread good will and connect with others. Amazing interview. You’re getting a professional with this guy.

    Awsi Dooger; Recent signing from phinsdraftblog .com, Awsi has applied himself well in his first year at SDB and looks to make an even bigger impact next season. The welcome addition has proven to be enthusiastic and team friendly while providing explosions of production from week to week.

    Real Rhino the Second; Thouhtful and Positive personality. Always looking forward and does a good job keeping his guys clean. Quicker than fast, this guys bull rush is second to none.

    Charlie Einhorn; Former Youtube sensation, he is no stranger to the spotlight. Has a nose for the game and runs like a horse.

    Nic Hansen Sr.; Strong at the point of attack, seems immovable at times. Best when he is right in the center of the action where he can direct traffic and react.

    Sea Mode; At 6’1 185, he falls within most size parameters. Excellent vision and tracking ability. Perhaps the fastest scout available. Takes great angles and is a student of the game. Looks like Tarzan, Plays like Jane 😉

    Del Tre III; A lively and engaging character, has the bloodlines and intangibles teams look for. Great attitide and will strive for improvement. High ceiling.

    Old But Slow; He may be old but at least he’s slow!

    Kenny Sloth; One of the younger available prospects, his age won’t concern teams because he’s had lots of production amd shown improvement every year. The red flags come in with his multiple failed tests for marijuana. Whoever can get this guy motivated will have a star for years though. He has all the charisma and talent in the world, but at times is his own worst enemy.

    Misfit 74; What is his fit at the next level?

    Ishmael; A polarizing prospect, Ishmael has talent and smarts, but can get into trouble with refs and coches alike. Hard worker and great teammate, he is always around the play.

    Sorry if I didnt get to you, there are so many that make this blog great.

    Thanks for an awesome year

    • nichansen01

      Haha these are great

    • RealRhino2

      Funny stuff.

    • Sea Mode

      Lol, Kenny. Loved the blurb on Misfit.

      Actually saw a tape measure lying around the other day and figured, “what the heck”. Now my “dreams” of fitting the Seahawks CB mold are all but over: 75.5 wingspan… ;-( Guess I’ll be relegated to the slot… haha.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Lol i was wondering actually.

        Did you play ball at corner?

        • Sea Mode

          Nope, never played at all tbh. All other sports yes though. Soccer is my fav.

          • Kenny Sloth

            See I should have played soccer. I’m about 5’6 170 when I top out. No football career for me lol

            • Sea Mode

              Maybe you can be Schneidz’ replacement… 🙂

              Oh, and Rob on an island was sheer genius too, man!

              • Kenny Sloth

                I humbly agree with both points my man.

                That sure is the dream isn’t it.

                Hell I’d jump for Jim Nagy’s successor so fast

                • Volume12

                  Always love when u do these.

    • Del tre

      I love it Kenny Sloth!
      I’d have to say the same thing about you! High ceiling thats for sure! You do a great job making sure this community stays fun.

    • sdcoug

      Misfit – “What is his fit at the next level?” Hahahaha now that was funny! very clever.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Ha Ha, I love it.

  70. East Side Stevie

    Anyone else think that David Moore has a better chance at making the 53 than Kenny Lawler had last year?

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Locks for team
      89 Doug Baldwin WR 28 5-10 192 7 Stanford
      82 Amara Darboh WR 23 6-2 215 R Michigan
      16 Tyler Lockett WR 24 5-10 182 3 Kansas State
      10 Paul Richardson WR 25 6-0 183 4 Colorado

      On the bubble
      19 Tanner McEvoy WR 24 6-6 230 2 Wisconsin
      81 David Moore WR 22 6-2 225 R East Central

      Likely PS guys
      13 Cyril Grayson WR 23 5-9 178 R LSU
      13 Tyler Slavin WR 25 6-1 201 2 New Mexico Highlands
      18 Kasen Williams WR 24 6-1 219 2 Washington

      I’m thinking they are out
      15 Jermaine Kearse WR 27 6-1 209 6 Washington
      11 Kenny Lawler WR 22 6-2 203 1 California
      14 Rodney Smith WR 27 6-5 232 3 Florida State

      There really is only 1 and perhaps 2 spots out of these 8 guys. I really do not see Kearse making the team. McEvoy and Moore seem like a cut above the other guys. Absolute wildcard imo is Grayson… since there really is no idea how he will perform in a game, due to his background (lack of playing football). His speed is elite however, but a mighty small dude. He is unique and we know Seattle loves them types.

      • C-Dog

        Carroll singled him out a bit today referring to his “signature shake and bake moves.” They could be legitimately very intrigued about his athletic potential.

        • HawkTalker #1

          Does he have any combine type of stats available? Besides his 40 speed?

        • Robert

          Pretty sure he was referring to Moore when he said signature shake and bake moves.

      • HawkTalker #1

        Did they only carry for wide receivers on the active roster last year?

      • Volume12

        I’ll be shocked if Kearse is out this year.

        • D-OZ

          Not me…

  71. coach

    I came one here today and thought I’d see a lot of comments on the first day of rookie camp. Thoughts? Sounds like they all looked good!

    • j hawk

      If you haven’t checked out Seahawks .com you should. I’m very excited about all the young guns coming in. I like the idea that Pocic is being tried at right tackle to start.

      • Sea Mode

        The first pics of the new guys in Seahawks gear is always one of my favorite times of year too.

        Echoing j hawk’s invite, I definitely recommend the PC press conference if you haven’t heard it already.

        Says they will be patient with Cyril Grayson, so I don’t expect him to hit the practice squad anytime soon. Really high ceiling with that speed.

      • HawkTalker #1

        Me too thrilled to death. We need some serious OT upgrades over last year.

  72. New Guy

    Watching the Malik McDowell presser it seems like he’s a ‘big easy’. There have been lots of great athletes with this sort of persona. He’s a bit shy and practically ran away from the mic podium at the end of his session.

    You can see he’s aware enough that to bring up his injury last year would label him as a crier among his peers. But given the opportunity he does quickly confirm the injury did effect his performance.

    I think pasting the Nkemdiche experience over him (as some have done) would be an injustice at this point. I”ll bet he’s going to be a ‘big nasty’ on the field.

    Chances are he’s not lazy and even more that he’s aching to prove himself in front of his colleagues by dominating the opponents at every turn. Judging his future play at a present press meet would be folly. I’ll bet he’s just burning to get on the field and play some football.


    • HawkTalker #1


      • bankhawk

        Fingers crossed and pulling for him in a BIG way! Itll be huge for our D if they can get him to manifest even 75% of that fearsome potential!

    • Robert

      I agree. And I’ll add that Malik had a steady diet of double teams in college. Playing 5T in base a 3T pass rusher on passing downs mean mostly 1 guy to beat, albeit an NFL player. I think his floor this year is to contribute nicely. But if he learns a pass rushing counter move and a few wily bennett trix, he could have a huge impact on our defense by making our end rush more effective when QBs cannot step up into the pocket to evade our rush and buy time. This year’s D could be our best!

    • Sea Mode

      Totally agree.

      And anyone who compares him to Nkemdiche I would venture to guess probably is just going by narratives and doesn’t know much about Nkemdiche. Really, really strange dude.

    • Volume12

      There’s nothing lazy about his play style. Body language? Sure.

      I made a gigantic mistake in thinking so, but he flashes in every single game. And I’m talking like 7-9 snaps a game.

      This a guy that can play literally anywhere on the D-line. Anywhere.

      He was constantly double teamed. Not only did he consistently split those double teams, he also penetrated the line while being doubled. He DEMANDs attention. Not one snap, nay one, did I see him moved backwards. Even when he stands up in a 2 point stance? Please notice the burst. From a 290 kid. The movement and fluidity is jaw-dropping honestly.

      You’ll notice a lot of plays against Michigan St’s D-line where there’s a pile at the LOS. Its all him. He creates all of that focus.

      He’s got more upside than any DL on this class and I know I’m not the only one who feels confident saying so.

      He said it himself. No excuses. Had a down year (if last year was a down year, good lord is the NFCW in trouble). It happens to the best of ’em.

      • Coleslaw

        I think after this season a lot of people will talk about him how they talk about Joey Bosa now. Had concerns, doesn’t matter. 10+ sack rookie season and he’s an instant star, and we have the best defense in the league again.
        And I think his floor is 6 sacks. Just on the fact that hes always going to be able to overpower a single lineman, his 2v1 and even 3v1 ability is gonna translate to wrecking NFL 1v1s (as long as it’s not a Joe Thomas)

        • Coleslaw

          I think McDowell could be used to just matchup over the opponent’s worse O Lineman and either take the double team or embarrass him all day

          • CharlieTheUnicorn

            Why would McDowell get a double team, when you have Bennett (and co.) requiring extra attention… I think he will have a nice season facing mostly 1v1. Hopefully he holds up in the rush defense part…. but I’m not concerned at all. In PC/JS we trust. 😉

            • Coleslaw

              Because a team could have a good LG and C and a bad RG, they would likely have the center help the RG so we put McDowell there and let them pick their poison with leaving Bennett or McD 1v1.

  73. Sea Mode

    Knock on wood for Seattle’s and all rookies. Hate to see anyone have bad luck like this right at the bright beginning of their pro career.

    “On Saturday, Browns HC Hue Jackson announced that fourth-round CB Howard Wilson will be out a “significant” amount of time after he sustained a fractured kneecap during minicamp, per Mary Kay Cabot.”

  74. nichansen01

    This could be a very very impactful rookie class.

    Griffen and Pocic could both start, and McDowell could be a real difference maker on the D-Line. Kam will almost certainly miss a few games so Hill will see extended action just like McCray did. Naz is also replacing a guy, Tony McD, who had a lot of snaps.

    Hopefully we don’t see much of tedric.

    Exciting though. If a little concerning.

  75. Mistral

    Heyo, Tom Cable details his role in O-line selection

    “We all do this together. That’s the cool thing here, man. We get to all have a say and be part of it,” Cable said. “No one comes down and says ‘OK, hey, we just signed so and so. Get him right.’ We all take a plan, and we started out with who is gonna be the UFAs, the free agents, and it was look at them all, evaluate them all, grade them all, do our homework on everyone. Then go back and do the research (on) when they came out – what were the positives, negatives then? Have they changed? Have they matured now that they’re free agents and have been in the league for a while? Are there injury issues?”

    That being said, Cable said there is some truth to how some have perceived what his job has been – and he wouldn’t have it any other way.

    “My reputation has always been to take a young group, take the free agent, take the guy to cross over from D-line to O-line, whatever – that’s what teachers do, that’s what developers do. I kind of have a lot of pride in doing that,”

    • Kenny Sloth

      This. This this this.

      Thanks Mistral

    • CestrianHawk

      He also commented “I’ve always said that when you build a team, pay those guys who hit the QB, cover people, and score touchdowns: and we’ll manage the rest.”
      Seems a fair summary of Seattle’s modus operandi, and presumably won’t change whilst PC/JS are calling the shots.

      • Hawk Eye

        let’s just hope that this year we see real progress on the offensive line and we can all say “oh, now I get it!, they do know what they are doing”. If only to shut up all the “experts” who gave Seattle a failed draft grade for not taking 2 OT’s in the first round this year and act like JS and PC are not aware of the O line problem.


        • AlaskaHawk

          The offensive line and the offensive line coaching is such a sore subject with me. I only hope they have hit rock bottom and are ready to improve. I will say that the only thing this offensive scheme has had in common over the last 6(?) years is Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Tom Cable, Bevel; and players Russell Wilson and Baldwin.

  76. nichansen01

    53 man projection I’m feeling really good about.

    Defensive End:

    Michael Bennet
    Cliff Avril
    Frank Clark
    Dion Jordan
    Malik McDowell

    Defensive Tackle:

    Quentin Jefferson
    Nazair Jones
    Jarran Reed
    Ahtyba Rubin


    Cassius Marsh
    Terrance Garvin


    Bobby Wagner
    Arthur Brown


    KJ Wright
    Michael Wilhoite

    Strong Safety:

    Kam Chancellor
    Delano Hill

    Free Safety:

    Earl Thomas
    Tedric Thompson


    Bradley McDougald
    Jeremy Lane

    Left Outside Corner:

    Richard Sherman
    Mike Tyson

    Right Outside Corner:

    Deshawn Shead
    Shaquill Griffen
    Neiko Thorpe

    Offensive line:

    Left side:

    Luke Joeckel
    Rees Odhiambo
    George Fant
    Justin Senior


    Justin Britt

    Right side:

    Germaine Ifedi
    Ethan Pocic
    Oday Aboushi
    Mark Glowinski


    Eddie Lacy
    Thomas Rawls
    CJ Prosise


    Algeron Brown

    Tight end:

    Jimmy Graham
    Luke Willson
    Nick Vannet

    Wide receiver:

    Doug Baldwin
    Tyler Lockett
    Jermaine Kearse
    Paul Richardson
    Amara Darboh
    Tanner McEvoy

    Russell Wilson
    Trevone Boykin


    Jon Ryan
    Blair Walsh
    Tyler Ott

    24 offense
    26 defense

    Is shead isn’t ready, put in Alex Collins for Shead

    • nichansen01

      Also having trouble deciding between Senior and Roos. I have Senior the nod just because he was drafted.

    • SeventiesHawksFan

      Will need to add one more RB. Most likely Collins. They never have carried less than four and the position is so important to the offense that they simply cannot risk injuries to two RB’s by mid-season and then they have only one healthy guy who can play who knows the system.

      This is one of the best 53 man projections I’ve seen. A few thoughts to add:

      Lane is not a natural slot corner. He was playing out of position last year. I think he’s our starting right corner, since there is no way Shaquille will be ready to start this year.

      I think we’ll go with one less LB. They have carried five on lots of occasions and that SAM role will frequently be filled with a safety or slot corner.

      They also are pretty clearly signaling a youth movement and changing of the guard at receiver. The plan most likely is to replace Kearse and Richardson after this season and I don’t think McEvoy is part of the long term plan either. I think they’re hoping one of the young fast guys shows enough to give him a roster spot. That would leave either McEvoy or Kearse out.

      I think they’re pretty high on Roos. And not at all worried that Senior won’t clear waivers. He’s a longer term project and he needs to change his weight and body composition by next year. He’s destined for the practice squad.

      • nichansen01

        when we had beastmode, we only carried 3. I hope lacy allows us to do that again.

      • nichansen01

        but since reading some things pete said about roos, yeah i think he makes it over senior

        • Del tre

          Senior is going to the practice squad year one, Rob’s comments about his coachability make me certain of that much. They plan on teaching him the system rather than rushing him in

          • AlaskaHawk

            I’m not sure either one will be on the team in 2-3 years. It is really up to them to learn and improve enough to become a starter. And this is one team where the starters really aren’t set yet. So they have the opportunity. Its just that there will be two more practice squad guys next year, and year after, etc. And they will probably drop players like Hunt this year, who were last years big hope.

            So show us something that makes us say WOW.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      They will only carry 9 OL? I guess I can see it. Overall, I think Seattle has much better talent from top to bottom within the OL group. Cable mentioned in an interview with Bob/Tom on 710 he thought Joeckel was one of the top LG in the NFL last year….. he only has to get right with his injuries he sustained last year, then he will be in line for a big pay day.

      • cha

        Keeping 9 is about versatility as much as talent on the OL. Joeckel and Odhiambo can project at either LG or LT, Glowinski at LG or RG, Ifedi at RG and RT and Pocic & Britt at C, RG and RT. They have multiple options in case of injury of ineffectiveness to a player on the OL.

        • East Side Stevie

          Deandre Eliot makes this roster, I would say tyson most likely a practice squad guy very little chance he makes it. Roos over Justin Senior even though they dont play the same position, Senior just wont be good enough to make the final 53.

      • AlaskaHawk

        The injury is the big issue I keep thinking about. Can we use him for a full season? I would like to see him at Left tackle, but maybe Fant will take a big step forward. I’ve heard he is doing a lot of weight training.

        • Alex

          Yeah I think Fant will take massive steps forward. In fact I can see and would be happy with the following line to start the season :


          Four returning starters, three in the same position. Of course training camp will prove me wrong! But it’s a line of continuity.

  77. James

    At this point in the off-season, these seem to be the most intense position battles to watch:

    – Thorpe, Elliott, Desir, Tyson @ CB (keep 2)
    – Lawler, McEvoy, Williams, Darboh, Grayson, Moore @ WR (keep 3)
    – Odhiambo, Aboushi, Hunt, Roos @ OL (keep 3)
    – KPL, Brown, McDonald, Palacio, Garvin, Bass @ LB (keep 3)

    …for certain, the vultures are going to pluck our waiver wire @ CB and WR.

    • Del tre

      1.) Elliot and Tyson (Thorpe doesn’t impress me much, Desir has failed to make the Browns, lets go with newer younger potential)
      2.) Lawler, McEvoy, Darboh (cut kearse and keep Grayson)
      3.) Odhiambo, Roos (Hunt is all but gone imo, I feel that the coaching staff doesn’t feel as pleased about Aboushi, he might just be a camp body)
      4.) Can’t comment haven’t watched them closely enough but, good odds we say goodbye to KPL in my opinion, as he has been wholly underwhelming me since he was drafted.

  78. Ed

    Please no Griffin or Kapernick. Would rather sign another undrafted FA than spend money on either of these retreads. They showed they could play for a year, then their college styl QBing was figured out and that was that. Need to have accuracy to make it in the league, if running is all you could do, bye bye.

    • cha

      Kaepernick runs like a deer and doesn’t turn the ball over much, two things PC loves. If RW got hurt, he could come in and competently do enough of what RW does to keep the team competitive. I’m not saying there isn’t some work to be done with him, but he’s head and shoulders better than an UDFA at this point if he’s willing to sign a team-friendly deal.

      • East Side Stevie

        Lol Ed, how many playoff games do you expect to win if Russ goes down with a former UDFA? With the current O line’s inexperience Russ going down is very possible just like last season.

        • Ed

          More than likely won’t win with either of them either.

      • AlaskaHawk

        It is kind of sad that Kap has been blackballed by the owners. Kind of a life lesson for everyone – though they are to chicken to admit that they are black balling him.

        I wonder if Kap still has his old skills? It’s been awhile since he played, maybe he doesn’t run or throw as well.
        What would be cool is if PC could rehabilitate him and then trade him for some other player that we need about mid to late season. Teams always get QB hungry when there guys get injured or don’t play well during the season.

        So he could be excellent trade bait. Just needs to get some training and reps, show he can play, and grovel until one owner lets him kiss their ring finger.

        • East Side Stevie

          Thats not true at all Ed, jist cause your a Kaep hater doesnt mean you can ignore the fact that he has a playoff resumé. I will take a former heisman trophy winner over an UDFA rookie any day.

          • Ed

            When did he win the Heisman. Are you talking Tebow?

            • East Side Stevie


  79. Kenny Sloth

    We just signed Speedy Noil, former #7 overall high school recruit

    • Kyle

      You beat me to the punch. Super excited to get him in camp. He is an extreme athlete that just needs some coaching. That dude is the most athletic guy, if they could mold him he would be a steal. You had to know this was coming. Pc and his penchant for freak athletic traits. This guy has them all. I think if he shows out as well as the Cyril we could be saying bye to kearse. I didn’t think it would happen this year but who knows with these guys and their athletic abilities. Could be very enticing for db. Perfect WRs for this offense and Russel Wilson

    • HawkTalker #1

      And who wouldn’t want a receiver named speedy?

      Oddly enough in the tape I remember watching (had to watch tape on a guy named speedy – right?), he did a far better job with contested receptions that he did looking speedy (or sudden) and creating separation for himself . . .

      • Donald

        Yeh, looking at the tape, he did not look THAT fast, and no punts or KR for TD. I will wait and see how he plays in exhibition before I get too excited about him.

    • Ishmael

      I was talking him before the draft, stoked we got him! Magnificent athlete, by all accounts he needs to get himself switched on upstairs and decide if he wants to work, but there just aren’t many people built like him. Rare specimen.

  80. CharlieTheUnicorn

    John Clayton seems to think it is almost certain that CK7 will sign with Seattle for 2-3M bucks within the next week or two… not sure why he seems convinced of this, but maybe a little birdie told him.

    Why not have a back-up QB who has experience playing from preseason to a SB as the back-up. He has some funny things mechanically, but there is no denying he is a very gifted athlete.

    I’m not convinced you can trust Boykin to stay out of trouble. Too bad. Trust is hard to garner and even harder to keep.

    • Old but Slow

      My only concern about Kap is how much he would cost. If he is willing to play for a reasonable compensation, I say go for it. He is a good athlete, strong, fast and talented, but he has not been handled well, in my opinion, and could be a value addition.

      He is a taller version of Russell, but does not have the football smarts that makes Russell unique. Likely he is not a winner as a starter, but he could be a great backup.

      Besides, what is the best job in the world? Backup QB behind a constant starter. Carry a clip board, get in the middle of strategy sessions, and never take a hit. For what, $4 mill. Not bad.

    • Ed

      Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. K can not throw. As much crap people gave Tebow, K gets less criticism. They both won because of their defenses. They both are not accurate. Why is he even in the league. If you don’t trust Boykin, find another Boykin (undrafted FA) to teach.

      • cha

        Tim Tebow: 47% career completion percentage
        Colin Kaepernick: 59% career completion percentage

        c’mon man.

        • Ed

          Really, 12% means he’s that much better. Please. 59% and probably avg 5 yds per completion. He’s terrible. UDFA and move on

          • AlaskaHawk

            As terrible as Osweiller? There’s a QB that keeps on costing the Texans lol. How long will they have to pay him? Did the Browns commit to paying any of his salary??

            The Cleveland Browns have a lot of money to work with and they found a creative way to use it to purchase a high draft pick. On Thursday, the Browns traded away a 2017 fourth-round pick to the Houston Texans to acquire a second-round pick in 2018 and a sixth-round pick in 2017 so long as they do the Texans the favor of eating the contract of Brock Osweiler.

            It’s a bad contract that was bogging down a Texans roster that is otherwise ready to compete for a Super Bowl. Due to count $19 million against the salary cap in 2017, the Texans couldn’t release Osweiler or else the cap hit would swell to $25 million.

            Just having Osweiler was a disaster for the Texans, a team that consequently had limited options to upgrade at the position.

            The Browns don’t have that problem.

            With over $100 million in cap space entering Thursday, the Browns don’t have any qualms with eating Osweiler’s big salary, especially when his contract is easy to part with after the 2017 season.

            He’s likely not an upgrade for the Browns and may never even play much for the team. It really doesn’t matter. Cleveland used its ample space under the salary cap to purchase a bad contract and a second-round pick.

            From SB Nation:

            When Hue Jackson and Sashi Brown started a new regime in Cleveland, it was a long-term rebuilding effort that was designed around building through the draft. The Browns own five of the first 65 picks in the 2017 NFL Draft, including the first overall selection.

            • AlaskaHawk

              OOPs almost all of my reply was from SB Nation article. Anyway = Osweiller is like the Titanic – big, exensive – and sinking fast.

              • CharlieTheUnicorn

                Actually I thought the Browns made a shrewd move…. the brought open some salary to satisfy the minimum salary floor per season and got draft capital (free second round pick) … for a temporary QB fill-in.. for perhaps 1 year. Not exactly text book, but I can see the thought process behind it and … well, the browns…. needed to try something different. They haven’t exactly been lighting the world on fire since 1999.

            • Robertlas vegas

              Houston has no first or second round picks in next year draft.there second goes to Cleveland in the osweiler trade and this year trade to move up.going into a draft with no 1 or two.I wonder if the hawks are confident that Tyler will be heathly enough to catch punts and kicks.I wouldn’t have any problems with the hawk’s signing cap for a one year contract if the price is right

          • Myfanwy365

            Probably avg 5yds, Bullshit

            Compare Russ to Kaep – Russ numbers 1st

            Completion – 64.7% to 59.8%
            Passer Rating – 99.6 to 88.9
            Y/A – 8.0 to 7.3
            AY/A – 8.2 to 7.3
            ANY/A – 7.01 to 6.07
            TD% – 5.6% to 4.3%
            INT% – 2.0% to 1.8%

            He’s worse in all but one, but he’s not that far off & considering the weapons he had last year i’m gonna cut him plenty of slack

            • Coleslaw

              60% is about Cam Newton numbers, if he can be the MVP with that, Kaep can be a backup.

  81. HawkTalker #1

    What is everyone’s take on RG3 over Kap for the back-up QB spot?

    • cha

      I’m intrigued by both, to see what they can do as part of a functionally healthy organization and without the weight of huge, franchise-carrying expectations and media coverage. I’d favor Kap because of his high level of experience.

      It probably will come down to contract demands.

      One thing to consider: It might be intriguing to sign one of them for a reasonably small amount, let them rehab their image on the bench in Seattle, maybe get a few reps here and there, and let them sign a mid-level deal with a QB hungry team in 2018 and get a 2019 comp pick.

      • AlaskaHawk

        He he , I just said the same in a post above. Either one could be rehabbed and then be trade bait. We could use another receiver with good hands. Wouldn’t it be cool if we traded for Golden Tate?

      • Mr. Offseason

        Let’s assume a couple of things in the event that the Seahawks sign Kaepernick: let’s assume that the Seahawks will sign him for one year at somewhere around $1.5m, because that seems like his market right now. Let’s also assume that Russell will be healthy all season.

        Trevone Boykin is set to make $630k for the upcoming season. So the Seahawks would be subtracting about $870k from the cap with this move. If this scenario were to happen, and Kaepernick cleans up his “bad reputation” on the bench while playing sparingly in garbage time and preseason, he could realistically be one of the top QB options on the market next year. Optimistically, he could go out and get $8m or more on the open market.

        The Seahawks would then net a comp. pick. If Kaep were to get $8m or more, we’re probably looking at getting a 3rd round pick. We have some FAs next year, so we are set to get probably four comp picks, it just depends on how many and how high the picks will be. With an additional 3rd, we will probably swap a 6th or a 7th out of the top 4 comp picks for the 3rd Kaep gets us in 2013.

        All that to say that simply, the Seahawks would be paying about $870k to turn a 6th round comp pick into a 3rd round comp pick in 2019. That’s essentially what this deal would be. And under this scenario, signing Kaepernick wouldn’t have very much to do with Kaep at all. It would be about the draft capital.

        • Mr. Offseason


        • AlaskaHawk

          As a manager I would sign Kap for 600K per year on a 3 year contract with escalation clauses for performance. He isn’t worth more than 600K to me because no one else will hire him. Given that he improves in performance, he can be traded or sold to another team. If they use him then his escalation clauses would kick in. The contract could also be loaded more heavily in the back, with no guaranteed money beyond the 600K.

          That is a realistic contract, which he might not take. But he has few options at this point. Perhaps his best option is to see if he can play basketball or baseball.

          • Mr. Offseason

            You’re right, he’s not going to take a deal like that. I am sure someone will be willing to pay him at least $1m or $2m at some point. The value is just too good to pass up.

            Even if his value bottoms out and he signs for bare minimum, the lowest a vet can sign is about $950k. So even if that happens, we’d still have to pay him $320k more than Boykin.

            • AlaskaHawk

              Okay 950K then.
              But I don’t think he will be signed. Rumors are he wants a lot more money. And I still think all the owners have decided to blackball him. He is going to have to swallow his pride and work for minimum wage for a year = or he won’t be signed by any team.

              • Mr. Offseason

                I would have no problem taking Kaep for $950k this year. If the rest of the league wants to give us a free top 5 backup QB for a year, that’s their prerogative.

        • RWIII

          Mr. Offseason you make some excellent points. No doubt John Schneider, Pete Carroll & Co. Are interested in Kapernick. It just depends on if Kapernick is willing to settle for Seattle’s offer.

    • Volume12

      Kap never developed. He’s got a fastball that’s it. But damn is it a good one. Never seen a QB run like him. Those long strides?

      Nice backup to have. The system ain’t that dissimilar either. Its why PC will keep going back to that Michigan/Harbaugh pipeline in future drafts. That’s how many guys now? Clark, Rawls, Hill, Darboh, Sherm & Baldwin? Although they were obviously Stanford guys.

      Tebow comparison? Miss me with that. Put Kap in a ball control heavy offense where the defense is the identity of the team? He’ll be just fine.

      Only question is where’s his head at? But for a backup? Could do much worse.

      RG3? Damaged goods.

      • DC

        For lack of a better comp, Kap reminds me of a much more athletic version of Tarvaris Jackson. Strong armed, limited processor type QBs.

  82. cha

    Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet ·

    To help at right tackle, the #Texans signed OT Breno Giacomini, who had back surgery after playing for the #Jets.

  83. EP

    I would definitely be up for Kap as long as he doesn’t cost too much. Would definitely be one of the better back ups in the league. He won’t play anyway because RW is a machine.

  84. HawkTalker #1

    I have had the cold sweats for like a week now. I need more SDB content.

    Car 54 . . .

    • j hawk

      #1, This is the black hole time of year. To make matters worse for me is that I gave up my dvr which had all of my Hawks games on it. It only hurts when I breath.

      • Greg Haugsven

        It’s called NFL game pass jhawk. Watch all past Seahawks games in condensed form. About 40 minutes. Got to love it.

      • Hawktalker #1

        Yep, I totally get it it’s that time of year. However, doesn’t help with the withdrawals one bit 🙂

    • RealRhino2

      We could always rosterbate for a while. What’s the best single source for info coming out about how guys look in minicamp, OTAs, etc.? I thought they went right from rookie minicamp into some sort of OTA with the vets, but haven’t heard a word about it. Did I misunderstand what was happening?

      The WR and DB battle this year is probably the most interesting thing going on, IMO. I don’t want to lose any of the new guys! It’s hard to swallow the thought of drafting a guy, seeing him flash in camp, then risking him being snatched away in favor of keeping somebody you feel like has an established ceiling.

      For example: I heard from three different people that David Moore, the 7th rounder, looked really good in rookie camp. Could he actually be what he hoped Chris Matthews could be after the Super Bowl? And I’m supposed to want Kearse instead? No. I’m supposed to get excited about a bigger Kenny Lawler? No. Slow, still skinny, no teams. What about Mike Tyson? Tony Softli seemed to really like him. So I’m supposed to think guys that have been stuck on the practice squad for two years are better to keep? No. No Elliott, no Desire, no SJB, no. Rule of thumb: If you are on the practice squad for a year or two and are still just depth, there is going to be no lightbulb. You don’t just have to learn the mystical Seahawks technique. You are just not good. See Terry Poole and Kristjan Sokoli for details.

      I want all the new guys that were drafted to stick, except Carson and Senior. Risk em on the PS. All the rest? If you have to cut Kearse, Richardson, Elliott, Thorpe, all of ’em, don’t care.

      • Volume12

        Imagine if being fast automatically equaled success as a WR.

        • RealRhino2

          That would certainly make things easier. Of course, fast is still better than slow, generally speaking. But I do know what automatically equals no success as a WR: being on the PS a whole year because you can’t beat out the likes of Tanner McEvoy.

        • nichansen01

          if john ross didnt run a 4.22, he wouldn’t have been a top ten pick.

      • Del tre

        Elliot could be good, last year was his rookie season. I agree on Desir and SJB

        • Logan Lynch

          A little late, but SJB is on the Chiefs now.

  85. Sea Mode

    Early list of some names to look through for next year:

    • Volume12

      I’ll give ya a handful names to keep an eye on for Seattle at potential positions of need.

      LSU WR Jonathan Giles. Transferred from Texas Tech. 5’11, 185 lbs.
      2016 stats: 69 rec, 1158 yds., 13 TDs

      Kansas DE-LEO Dorance Armstrong, Jr. 6’3-6’4, 246-250 lbs.
      2016 stats: 56 tackles, 20 TFL, 10 QB sacks

      ‘Bama RB Damien Harris 5’11, 215 lbs.
      2016 stats: 146 att., 1037 yds, 2 TDs. 7.10 YPC, 14 rec., 99 yds, 2 TDs

      VA-Tech CBs Adonis Alexander (6’3, 193 lbs.) & Brandon Facyson (6’2, 197 lbs.)

      Udub RB LaVon Coleman 5’11, 225 lbs.
      2016 stats: 114 att., 852 yds, 7 TDs. 7.47 YPC

      Arizona St LB/ATH Koron Crump- 6’3, 220 lbs. Needs to gain some weight, but this kid is a freak!
      2016 stats: 37 tackles, 10.5 TFL, 9 QB sacks, 3 FF, 1 INT

      If interested, I’ll keep posting these. Up next, OTs, TEs, and 1-techs.

      • Volume12

        This class is gonna be loaded at RB, OT, and LB *

        • Coleslaw

          DE too, looks like it’s safe to predict another pair of OL/DL with the first 2 picks, with wildcards most likely. Should be another fun draft

  86. HawkTalker #1

    How about a mock of the regular season games we play this year, outcomes, scores + any appropriate color commentary?

  87. STTBM

    The Trib has downsized Dave Boling. What a disaster! He certainly deserved better, but the Newspaper Industry is on life support and the Trib has been going to heck since they ruined their blog by linking to Facebook.

    I for one am really going to miss his writing. I hope he turns up elsewhere writing about the Seahawks.

    • Old but Slow


      • Hawk Eye

        what’s a newspaper?

        • Old but Slow

          Maybe we will see Dave show up on this site, which I look at regularly, as it features writers like Thiel and Rudman, and would be a good place for him.

          • STTBM

            Thanks for the link! Really enjoy Thiel letting it all hang out; Writers can’t do that at newspapers or for I too would love to see Boling write for Sportspteessnw. I thought his video recaps of Seahawks practices, games and roster moves with Greg Bell were great; you could see they were friends and how much respect Bell had for Biking. They made a great team.

            Nothing gold can stay, as Robert Frost wrote.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      The NewsTribune was the best sports read in the Pguet Sound area for many many many years.
      Mike Sando, Dave Boling… and others all came out of this press pool. Very talented group.

      • DC

        “The Professor” John Clayton also spent some time at the TNT.

  88. nichansen01

    I am 100 percent sure Chris Carson makes this team.

    • RWIII

      Nich: I like Chris Carson a TON. I wouldn’t be surprised either way. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t makes the team. However, I wouldn’t be surprised be if does make the team. Could go either way.

    • LeoSharp

      You think they’ll cut Collins?

      • RWIII

        Do I think the Hawks could cut Collins? Collins improved towards the end of the season. However I video of Chris Carson. I can see why Pete Carroll liked what he saw. Competition. It’s all about competition. May the best man win. BTW: Le6o. Have you seen Carson on video?

        • nichansen01

          He fumbled twice in very limited action. He is gone if he doesn’t clean that up. I never thought he even looked that good. No explosiveness.

  89. CharlieTheUnicorn

    I know this is a bit off topic, but it is “summertime” in Seattle.

    I was thinking about how a spring developmental football league (or summer) would work….

    So for example, each team in the NFCW would contribute 12 players (48 total off of the practice squads) to an all NFCW team… that then would play the other 3 divisions in the NFC (N,S,E). They would play perhaps 6 games total within conference, then the best 2 records (NFC/AFC) would play for a SB-Lite.

    I’m not sure how the pay would work or any of the logistics… like would it be a barnstorming league where they play in areas where there is not a “prominent” NFL presence…. (ex: Mobile Al. sized cities). This would be an excellent way to grow the talent within the NFL and continue to grow the “brand” of the NFL. NFL Europe was successful on both fronts. Perhaps it could be NFL Asia this time around.

    What do you guys/gals think?

  90. DavidM2

    RIP Cortez Kennedy.

    August 23, 1968 – May 23, 2017.

    You were one of greatest of all time…

    • Volume12

      That’s sad. 😢

      Prayers go up for him and his family. 🙏

      • Volume12

        Seems like every time you turn on the ‘fake news’ (what a selfish, vanity driven narrative) there’s heartbreak. Especially with just happened in Manchester. Heart breaking. 💔

  91. AlaskaHawk

    Yes – It is sad to see him leave us at the age of 48. It makes me wonder what happened?

    • Hawk Eye

      RIP Tez
      I remember him along with Easley, Jacob Green, maybe Dave Brown as being the great Seahawk defenders from the early years. Way too young to go.

      • HawkTalker #1


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