I was just watching the video & realized how crazy those teams were. Lynch, Sherman, Thomas, Kam, Wagner, Avril, Wilson, Wright, Baldwin all on the field at the same time.. that truly was a golden age!
Doug
Watching those 50 career-defining plays makes me ask why Buffalo ever let him go. I know Lynch had off-field issues in Buffalo and they drafted another RB (forget who) but still–the Buffalo tape shows a unique talent.
I really like the decision to bring Lynch back. The “worst” thing that can happen is the Seahawks lose to the Niners and are one and done in the playoffs–Lynch goes out as a Seahawk, the way it always should have been.
The best case scenario is the stuff Hallmark movies are made of. In any case, I get to wear my Lynch jersey one more time.
Oklahoma is going to have to score 50 if they want to win this game. LOL
CHawk Talker Eric
Oklahoma won’t win this game. But I can still admire a great play by someone from the losing team.
Troy
Don’t watch much college football so this is my first watching of Burrow, trying to get a look at the new Bengals starting QB haha
Troy
Holy shit that last Burrow throw on the third down…that dude is magical
Troy
I can’t believe Burrows ball placement on his deep throws, he is literally throwing dimes long range to WRs where it ends up right in there hands…crazy how high his talent level
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Someone is gonna get an absute steal on day 2 in LSU WR Justin Jefferson. He might need to be bumped up into the round 1 discussion.
CHawk Talker Eric
Dude he’s making a case for R1 consideration. He’s totally outshining Lamb, though that’s as much because he’s got Burrow throwing to him instead of Hurts. But still…he looking good
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Elite seperation skills, makes great adjustments to the ball, and the thing I like most about him that IMO will translate over to Sundays is his ability to exploit holes in a defense/coverage.
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Draft stock going up.
Justin Mullikin
As Rob has mentioned, there are a lot of talented receivers in this draft. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
CHawk Talker Eric
Stupid stupid play Radley-Hiles. Talk about letting your teammates down.
The more I see of CEH and Justin Jefferson, the more I like of both.
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Jalen Hurts is not good.
Paul Cook
Joe Burrow is an incredible story. I’m trying to think of a college QB in a major program who went became so significantly better in almost every facet of the position in such a short amount of time. There are “system” QB’s who suddenly become stat kings, but Burrow’s development was mind-bogglingly explosive. He looks like he could step in and run an NFL offense tomorrow.
SoCal12
These Burrow throws are something else man. Such a pretty spiral. Bengals must be pretty stoked right now lol.
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Burrows and Mixon will be such a fun backfield
Kenny Sloth
Wow Justin Jefferson totally stole the Alex Morgan score counting celebration! How unsportsmanlike
Troy
Blow out in the second quarter of a playoff game…CFB is crazy
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LSU’s K’Lavon Chaisson has been the best defender on the field so far
SoCal12
I wonder when in the draft hes gonna go and where we might consider him. Would be really nice to add his speed which we desperately need.
I like the #18 and the leadership and the quickness he shows. They’re doing a very good job making him a factor here. But he’s a niche rusher at best at the next level. There is absolutely no way he can line up at the LOS and play early downs.
SoCal12
True. Where do you think he might fall to though? At some point the talent should be considered even if he ends up a specialist.
I don’t know — need to see how he tests. But he’s so light. There’s no sand in his pants. Which is fine if you want to stand him up and play in space. But he’s not a LOS player and for me the Seahawks need more than anything some twitch up front who can play early and often. If they want a niche role player they already have Shaquem. I think Chaisson can play a more expanded role than Shaquem and maybe be more of a SAM who can rush sometimes but this team needs full time, top end pass rush and quality across the DL.
CHawk Talker Eric
In this game maybe. But I think Ken Murray might be the best defender at the next level. Too bad he’s not 100% for this game.
Kenny Sloth
Absolute bloodbath
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Next year’s TE class is loaded!
CHawk Talker Eric
You looking at Thaddeus Moss too?
EP
Should call full time at half time in this game. Get Clemson and Ohio State on early.
EP
I hope they let Burrows pass for 10 TDs
Frank
Burrow and Jefferson have to be threatening some all time records, or at least Bowl records if they keep up this pace in the 2nd half.
Paul Cook
Wow. Riley’s got his hands full just to get his team’s psyche patched together for the second half.
The best comp. Doesn’t mean he’ll be Brady. The mental quality and competitive nature of Brady is different level. But if we’re looking for a comp there it is.
Troy
Damn Rob that is quite the compliment. I would say he is more athletic than Brady but other than that very similar. It will be interesting to see if he can turn around the Bengals franchise. They better protect him.
In fairness to Cincy they spent two R1 picks on their OL recently and traded for Cordy Glenn. Goes to show how hard it is to build a line. And in the league QB’s HAVE to improvise now. Lines are overmatched across the league. Your QB has to be able to create when plays breakdown. HAVE TO.
Kenny Sloth
Not to pick nits, but he’s so much more athletic and creative than Brady, that I don’t think the comparison is apt. For me I like to comp him to Brees, because he can do so much outside of the pocket while being clinically accurate throwing at all levels.
But you’re falling into the trap of thinking a comp has to be perfect. No two players are the same. You could put up take of Vick and Lamar and find differences. But you’d still make the comp.
Kenny Sloth
No comp is perfect, and I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen another QB navigate the pocket like Brady and Burrow do. Love Burrow’s demeanor. Moment never seems too big for him. Very Rodgers-like blasé type
Crazy that Lamar is already throwing like veteran Vick with Atlanta Vick’s legs. And maybe more sauce than the position has ever seen.
CHawk Talker Eric
I was just about to ask if anyone else thinks Burrow might be the best QB prospect of the last 25 years.
Kenny Sloth
Almost asked that last night.
Mayfield had some pretty ugly character red flags despite his statistical otherworldliness.
Luck was a nearly flawless prospect, but Burrows is clearly the more competitive person, from what I know. Sad how it ended up for Luck.
I’d probably have to call him the surest thing since Manning.
Trevor Lawrence looks pretty amazing, too, but I get a strange vibe from him. Kind of ‘yippy’ iykwim
Justin Mullikin
Luck was supposed to be the best prospect since Manning. I mean everyone knew he was the #1 pick before his last college season even began (remember suck for Luck campaign). With that said Burrow has all the tools you want. Hopefully he has a long, successful career (except when he is playing the Seahawks).
Paul Cook
The ones that come to the top of my mind at the moment are Elway, Luck, and Trevor Lawrence. It’s one of the reasons why I think Clemson is the only team that can take down LSU, as good as Ohio State may be.
John_s
Will Blackmon said that he saw some Troy Aikman in Burrow. I think that’s a great comparison
line_hawk
Burrow is good but this game doesn’t show anything. There is no pressure from the dline and every receiver he finds is wide open. I want to see a brawl like what Deshawn Watson & Kyler Murray had to go through vs Alabama in the playoffs. Otherwise, I don’t know how Burrows will do against the extremely physical AFC North.. with TJ Watt in his face all day long.
Quite aside that Burrow has already gone toe-to-toe with a list of big-time teams including Alabama — how on earth are you saying he’s throwing to only wide open receivers? He’s dropping absolute dimes.
Paul Cook
Absolutely. And some of the open receivers he did hit were a result of his savvy buying of time. That long scramble where he released it near the sideline and hit that receiver was one of the best pass plays I saw all year in college.
Kenny Sloth
+1
line_hawk
Again, this is not to criticize him. He deserves to go No 1.
Having gotten that out, there are areas where he is untested. This game he is sitting in the pocket with no pressure and throwing dimes to wide open receivers. He won’t find either in the nfl. His style is better suited to NFC East or NFC South. In AFC North, he is going to get beaten up.. something, he hasn’t faced this year due to a superior offensive line.
Kenny Sloth
So funny because the narrative is that he won his team over with the way he would take hits and always got back up
line_hawk
Yes narratives are that..narratives. But how many times has he had to lead his team back from big deficits? Or had to will his team when things weren’t going his way? That’s what I meant when I referred to the Watson & Murray playoff games.
Paul Cook
The thing with Burrow is that there’s nothing that suggests he wouldn’t be up to such a task. Everything I’ve seen of him is that he a steely and cool mental makeup. You can see that quality when he’s under pressure. Also, the way he got to where has (just incredible) in itself show his resiliency of character.
Anyway…ever since my attention was drawn to him early this season, I’ve founf it hard to come up with flaws or concerns in his game or mental makeup.
And how many times has he walked on water, or cured a disease?
Etc etc
Burrow has done everything and more.
McZ
He actually did all of that in 2018. In November 2018, I wrote how high I was about his mental quality. Now, he adds a refined technique, lateral quickness and precision.
He is a true #1 pick.
SoCal12
Several of those touchdown were into coverage, and hes been scrambling around to create throws. Feels like the ‘sit in pocket and easy throws’ is really stretching it.
Kenny Sloth
….. He already beat Alabama
Paul Cook
As a Husky fan, the gap between Burrow and Eason in the coming draft is Grand Canyon-esque.
Trevor
Rob I know you are not a fan it I think K’lavon Chaisson is exactly the type of speed rusher the Hawks need. He is a little light similar to Brain Burns but he has the frame to put on size easily. Or he could be utilized in a Bruce Irvin SAM type roll.
If he tests as expected he will be a top 20 pick up if he is on the board I hope the Hawks give him a look.
Chaisson in. Rd #1 and Jefferson in Rd #2 would be sweet.
It’s not a case of being a fan or not. It’s about understanding his role, his fit.
It’s simply not true that he’s the type of speed rusher Seattle needs. He’s not a speed rusher at the next level. He has the frame of a linebacker. There is absolutely no way you could line him up at DE. He’s not like Brian Burns either. Burns was a gangly, lean player who needed to gain weight to his sleight frame. Chaisson doesn’t have the frame to gain much weight. He looks relatively filled out — he’s just lean.
If you recall I had Burns in the top-10 of my mocks until I read he was playing in the 220’s. So I dropped him amid fears of him being able to add and retain weight. When he showed up big at the combine, I moved him up a bit again. Chaisson is very different and not the same type of player or prospect.
If you want someone who can basically do what Shaquem does now or potentially develop over time into a SAM — I’m happy to talk about Chaisson.
The Seahawks don’t need a part-time rusher though. They need someone with real twitch who can play the edge and get after the QB and make plays.
They need a Cliff Avril not a part-time tweener.
And the talk of Chaisson in R1 really has to stop.
Trevor
Agree about needing an Avril type but those type guys are so rare and I dont see one in this draft class.
I completely disagree about Chiasson and think he is a 1st round lock if he tests well at combine.
Eburgz
I like Chaisson and think he has R1 potential but understand Rob’s concerns about size. I think a guy like Tyler Johnson is much less likely than Chaisson to be picked in round 1 (think rob had Johnson in R1 a couple mocks back). Not silly to consider either one of those guys early though IMO.
NFL is hungry for speed and disruption on D. He’s honestly pretty thick looking in his lower body, doesn’t look at all like Burns did last year (also not nearly as disruptive and well rounded as a rusher). Seems like he’s already put in a ton of work in the weight room and he’s listed at 6ft 4 and 250 pounds (I bet he is a little smaller than that).
I think he comps out to someone like Vic Beasley with added coverage skills. The hawks have drafted a similar type early in Bruce Irvin. I think he would similarly be a SAM/LEO which is essentially an every down player. He doesn’t get knocked around the way Shaquem does on Sundays and Queem has not shown anything in coverage and hasn’t looked great in space.
Not many 260+ pound pass rushers with legit burst lasting to where the hawks are picking (maybe just Gross Matos this year of the high profile guys). You can get Chaisson on the field for a high percentage of snaps because he can cover and looks good in space unlike some other undersized rushers. I like Terell Lewis better though if we’re looking for a pure pass rushing specialist.
His upper body is tiny. There’s no structural power base. He does his best work moving around the line to find areas where he can stay clean.
I don’t see Vic Beasley at all. He’s not remotely like Bruce Irvin. Come on guys. The difference is absolutely massive and stark.
Irvin for two years was the best pure EDGE in college football and would’ve dominated even more had he not been placed in a weird three-man front at WVU. Beasley was an absolute terror as a pure EDGE and had massive, sustained production. Both players tested on an elite level. Both were very happy to engage and win with a repertoire.
Chaisson neither has the production or, as of yet, the testing ability. The only comp is that they weren’t big guys and neither is Chaisson. That’s it. That really is it.
Eburgz
Yep he lacks the production of Bruce or Beasley. Not as dominant or polished and not perfect comps by any means and mostly based on size and athletic ability comparisons. I think he will test well and he is playing his best ball recently with 4.5 sacks in the last 3 games. Including some clear straight up pass rush wins against those Georgia tackles. He’s won in a variety of ways not just moving around the line and finding open gaps but for sure that’s been part of his production. He looks like a player to me, R1 could be a little rich considering his size he might not hold up on the LOS but I don’t think it’s out of the question.
I think he’s a long way off R1 and maintain that the two comps are just because he’s smaller. Bruce and Beasley played very differently and had very different careers.
As much as I love coming to this site this is the thing that bothers me most. This is all opinion not fact so none of us are wrong and none of us are right. He may or may not go in the first round but he has the freakish athleticism that teams love to gamble on. Im with you Trevor, I would like him as a Seahawks prospect. Just not sure if PC/JS will or not.
No problem with disagreeing but Trevor not every player has to be a first rounder if you like them. Chaisson has no characteristics other than some apparent athleticism to warrant any remote talk of round one. He doesn’t have an obvious position, massive production or massive upside.
Nobody’s saying don’t like the guy. But round one?
And just because there isn’t an obvious Avril doesn’t mean we need to take someone like Chaisson. They can address that need in free agency.
When I think of Chaisson I think of two former LSU Tigers in Danielle Hunter and Barkevious Mingo. They are all built the same and have a similar athletic profile. All about 6’5″ 250 and all have had low production as Tigers which is strange.One was picked 6 overall and hasnt had a really good career so far and the other was a 3rd rounder who has excelled. Both Hunter and Mingo had similar combine numbers so it will be interesting to see Chaisson’s numbers if he does declare. If I was a betting man he doesnt get selected in round one but could.
Hunter looked had the frame though and needed to add weight. He was unproductive in college but you could see a pathway to starting. Mingo was legit at LSU for a while. Again, I don’t think these are great comps. Chaisson more like the tweener LB types.
Sea Mode
Just dropped in on some Twitter clips to see what all the Burrow hype tonight is about. Wow, some unbelievable throws.
The arm isn’t quite as strong to my eye, but the improv skills in particular might be more comparable to Mahomes than Brady?
Bengals fans everywhere rejoice… They should probably just draft Jefferson with the first pick of R2 as well and keep them together… Anyway, will also be interesting to see if they can flip Dalton’s last contract year for an extra R2 or R3 pick from someone.
Paul Cook
Totally psyched for Ohio State and Clemson. A talent-fest. What a match-up.
Trevor
Has the potential to be a classic. Lawrence and the Clemson WR agains Ohio St secondary is going to be so much fun to watch.
If Feilds is healthy I think Ohio St takes it 35 -30
Paul Cook
I have no idea how it will turn out. I give a slight edge to Clemson because of Trevor Lawrence and Dabo. But nothing would surprise me other than a blowout by either team.
mishima
…about that OSU ‘holding Burrow/LSU to17’…
Corvus consumptis
Frank
I don’t see Mahomes at all, to go really old school I see Burrows as more of a Dan Marino type. I’d agree with a Tom Brady comp as well, but Brady has showed very little potential to be a franchise savior in college, and because all of his plus traits are intangibles always feel like Brady comparisons are kinda back handed compliments saying someone has below average arm, and athleticism. Based on super bowl wins Brady might be the goat, but if I was building a team from the ground up I’d take a Marino over a Brady.
Chawk Talker Eric
Burrow has similar accuracy, awareness and arm strength but he’s much more mobile than Marino ever was.
I see a bit of BYU Steve Young in him. He’s probably the better passer while Young was more athletic and mobile, but otherwise they have similar capabilities.
DC
Marino? He is like 58 years old. If I’m building a team from the ground up I’d start with a much younger QB.
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A hand= an elbow, knee, or foot now?
CHawk Talker Eric
This OSU defense is impressive.
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Clemson’s gonna get boatraced. They ain’t played nobody.
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Ball game!
Denver Hawker
Is Dobbins the top back in the draft? Looking late R1 to me.
SoCal12
What a game from Dobbins. Should be a healthy boost to his stock.
I dont think I’ve enjoyed watching a college quarterback this much in my life. Joe Burrow is simply outplaying every defensive he plays. His attitude, poise and sheer will to win is a breath of fresh air. Kudos to the kid.
Pran
Man o man.. what a video. patience, cuts, balance, strength, vision and finish.. feed the crowd with the video in the stadium before the game.m and let beastmode get to work.
Kenny Sloth
Is Trevor Lawrence gritty enough? Let’s find out together ❤
CHawk Talker Eric
Sure looks like it
Kenny Sloth
Man. Imagine if Tom Brady and Peyton Manning could move like Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence respectively.
Kenny Sloth
Oh yes he is
Paul Cook
Wow. 16-14 at the half. Ohio State must be thinking what do we have to do? If you’re Clemson, you’ve wrestled momentum back big time.
Assuming he declares — and the suggestions are he will — he will be a big riser in the media eventually. I’ve had him in R1 a long time. Can play inside/out. Seahawks probably won’t consider him because he’s a corner who will go early but he’d be ideal as a guy who can operate in the slot and fit outside when needs be.
Paul Cook
He looked good tonight. That whole OSU defense were hitting as hard as the NFL. I’ve seen so much talent today on the field it’s really mind-boggling.
Denver Hawker
Part of me wishes they’d take him- but would probably spell KJ or Kendricks. He’s like Minkah Fitzpatrick in his versatility. Can’t help but wonder if that role is increasing in value in the new NFL.
Paul Cook
Higgens is back. Huge for Clemson.
line_hawk
Marcus Peters gets $14M a year. How much does Griffin get?
Paul Cook
OSU coverage has been brutally good.
Paul Cook
Clemson takes the lead. Who would have thunk about 45 minutes ago? Football.
SoCal12
Really interesting game so far. As competitive as advertised. OSU seems to have lost steam after failing to finish. Can’t see either of these teams beating LSU though.
Paul Cook
The Clemson defense came up big in the red-zone. If not, this game is of a different color.
SoCal12
Okudah showing why he’s the top cornerback in the draft.
Paul Cook
I’m sold. He’s awesome.
Paul Cook
The hitting in this game is almost surreal. Thunderdome.
Justin Mullikin
Ohio State dominated for most of a half, showed they belonged, and yet found a way to loose. Wow!
Paul Cook
Trevor Lawrence…the guy’s a total stud.
SoCal12
What a game. Great display of talent on both teams. OSU was knocking on the door and then woops. That interceptions going to be haunting Fields for a while. Hope he can use it as motivation next year.
Denver Hawker
I think this game showed how coaching can trump talent. Swinney had his guys in it for 60 minutes. Both teams were equally matched talent-wise, but Clemson fought back after getting punched in the mouth.
Paul Cook
That game was my kind of game. Hard hitting. Total grit. In the trenches. Blood sweat and tears. Players laying everything they had out there on the grid iron.
Awesome.
McZ
Decided by a overturned fumble recovery TD… which was very poor officiating.
McZ
Have to add, this crew also officiated ‘Bama-Auburn, and they were a joke, too. If that is the best the SEC has to offer, their officiating must be in utter shambles.
Paul Cook
Ohio State had three chances to get a TD in the red zone in the first half, and then again didn’t punch it in at the end. OSU have themselves to blame for the loss. Nobody else.
charlietheunicorn
*takes bow*
Clemson vs LSU
But holy smokes, Burrow goes #1… no doubt about it.
Was Ohio St drunk? Left at least TDs on the field and just some odd decisions from Ryan Day. No such thing as ‘chasing points.’ You get the points ypu need. Much like w/Bama you have to kill a Clemson when you get the chance. And than kill ’em again for good measure.
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And that’s not taking anything away from the players on both teams or diminishing what they did. Both teams played great.
Kenny Sloth
Joe Burrow killt OK dead. He took off his pads in the 3rd quarter
DC
Remember when Mark Helfrich inherited a stacked Oregon team and led them to a title game shot in his sophomore year? (A demoralizing, humiliating & soul shattering loss to Ohio State)
Two short years later he was shown the door. If Day starts losing to Michigan… the clock starts ticking.
Chase Young showed again last night that while he’s a very talented prospect, some of the ‘OMG BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT’ talk is over the top.
Let’s see how he tests.
Trevor
+1
Trevor
All the teams picking after Cincy (Wash, NY, Mia) need a LT badly. I could easily see Andrew Thomas going #2 ahead of Young and he is the far safer pick IMO.
I’m with you Rob- I haven’t watched any other OSU games this season, but I tried to pay attention to Young, and while I would never say he didn’t show-he seemed a bit under-emotional, considering the circumstances. I’d think twice before I’d spring for him with the 2nd pick.
Then again, I’ve watched but little of his play, and then there’s all the pre-draft stuff that’s yet to come.
Trevor
Dabo Swinney is the new Pete Carrol of College Football. Great recruiter who has built a program with an amazing culture. Those kids play hard and for each other. OSU was clearly the more talented team but the got out coached and Clemson seemed to want it more.
Dabo’s got a pretty clear path to the CFP every year pillaging the ACC. You think he’d rather follow in Saban’s deep footsteps & risk the SEC mine field than blaze his own legendary trail?
No but I can’t imagine he’ll go on for too much longer
charlietheunicorn
Rumor he might head to NFL….. we will see
DC
Just looked back at Pauline’s season preview of LSU for reference. Burrow was graded as a FA and ascended to the #1 pick. Pretty meteoric rise. Hope his success continues for Cincy. They have suffered enough.
Trevor
If both guys were coming out who would you take at #1 Burrows or Lawrence?
I think I would take Lawrence but it is a lot closer than I would have dreamed at the start of the year.
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Barry
Burrows. Burrows has shown the mental game few ever get it in college or pro ball. His physical skills are somewhere below Andrew Lucks but his mental game is above Lucks coming out of college.
Burrows elevated a great college program even higher this year.
It’s a bit rare to see a Qb so aggressively in control. His comfort level is through the roof.
Kenny Sloth
Bazooka Joe
DC
Rob, just got a solid look at your boy Isaiah Wilson of Georgia vs LSU. He certainly looks the part of a Seahawks RT. I know you’ve got him going at #12 now so he wouldn’t be an option.
As far as the Seahawks positional draft order goes, it seems like the Ifedi situation is the lynchpin. Keep him and you can do all kinds of different things (aka, have more fun). If he walks? Much more likely that Seattle drafts a 1st round T.
I could be totally wrong about this but based on past results the FO’s positional spending might stay relatively lower at DB where they successfully draft, develop & acquire players & also at the short shelf life RB position. That money can be used to keep the guys they trust on the OL & help to avoid a repeat of the recent ‘horror show’ years that we all were a witness to. The post-Okung/pre-Brown years being the low point. Someone is going to pay Ifedi more money than most of us think he is worth. For continuity sake and for a more exciting 2020 draft, I hope that someone is us.
Trevor
Ifedi was as good or better last year than he has been this year and the Hawks declined his 5th year option. I think that tells you all you need to know. If they viewed him as a key component there is no way they dont pick up that option.
Sure but just because they don’t view him as a must have at an expensive cost doesn’t mean they aren’t willing to bring him back once he’s established his actual market.
Trevor
Very true I guess I just don’t see the Hawks breaking the bank to keep him.
They could also sign a veteran alternative if Ifedi moves on.
DC
It’s shaping up to be a most interesting offseason.
Trevor
I know the Hawks wont take a CB in Rd #1 but Wade from Ohio St could take our secondary to another level I think. He looks like an elite slot corner to me who can turn the all over and plays really physical.
Griffin and Flowers outside with Wade in the slot and Mcdougald / Diggs at Safety would be a pretty dynamic unit.
DC
The secondary seems pretty damn close to being pretty damn good.
Aaron
I feel for Burrow. The Bungles are gonna ruin him unless another team steps in and drafts him at no. 1.
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I have the same reservations you do. Not worried about Burrows but what’s around him. Mixon, him, Jonah Williams, Tyler Boyd is a nice a little nucleus to build around. Thing is, they need more in front of him and that’s a team who doesn’t spend $ in FA.
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I hope KC drafts Travis Etienne
astro.domine
Holy mackrel, the Lions might actually make this interesting!
Volume12
This game is a great example of much changes week to week in the NFL.
charlietheunicorn
The Tuna Fish are making it interesting in Patriot land.
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DC
Can this version of NE roll through Arrowhead AND Baltimore? I think not. The beast may finally be slain but just like any horror move, make sure they are dead before you turn your back.
Paul Cook
Detroit can’t bear Green Bay. Impossible.
Paul Cook
Man, if Detroit upsets Green Bay (I’ll have to see it to believe it), the stakes for tonight’s game get jacked up.
Trevor
If the Lions pull off a shocker are the Hawks playing for a Rd #1 bye tonight?
Paul Cook
I believe we’d be playing for the #2 seed.
Aaron
Unless Rodgers pulls magic out of his hat then tonight’s game would definitely have higher stakes.
49ers win: 49ers are 1st seed, Hawks are 5th
Hawks win: 49ers are 5th seed, Hawks are 2nd
If Packers win then…
49ers win: 49ers are 1st seed, Hawks are 5th
Hawks win: 49ers are 5th seed, Hawks are 3rd
Aaron
F U Lions!!! Trash franchise. It’s pointless to win tonight cuz we don’t get a bye 😡😡😡 #TwitterShockJock
Paul Cook
What a drag watching that game just knowing in the back of my mind that the Lions were probably going to come up short and just end up frustrating and disappointing me. I almost wish they had gotten blown out so that I didn’t get sucked into it. LOL
Paul Cook
With Green Bay winning, you’d think that you’d have to give serious consideration to resting/sitting those players that are on-the-fence now in terms of their health, players like Clowney. Minnesota at home or (likely) Philly on the road…hmm…close call. I know PC doesn’t tend to think in such terms, but as a fan I do wonder a bit.
Barry
Ha, I was just typing up something of the same line of thought, Paul.
Aaron
The Seahawks twitter folks are probably wanting us to rest our starters and treat this like a preseason finale type game. But for those guys in that building this game is gonna be for the division crown. You gotta think they’re gonna go balls to the wall with that crowd against that team in that spotlight tonight.
Paul Cook
There’s something in-between from that. It’s not giving up, but rather just sitting/resting players who are hurt and letting them get healthier for the playoffs. We can still beat the 49ers if things go our way.
charlietheunicorn
No one plays to lose, everyone plays to win (except the BROWNS!). If Seattle beats the 49ers, who cares.. except the current rivalry goes up 100x.
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A.J. Brown is a stud.
Barry
Rob, or anyone chime in on this.
With both Green Bay and the Saints winning the Hawks have no chance at a number 1 seed. If the 49ers win they do have the first seed.
Would it be prudent to rest everyone you can treat this as a buy week go play wherever we do in round one and two and if we make it to the NFC championship our fans travel well to SF.
Would you realistically roll the dice on a rest game and take your chances?
DC
I’m sure Pete is pondering forfeiture as we write 🤔…
Pause…
Not!!!
Henry Taylor
Reasons this game is still of great importance:
1: The 3rd seed is still better than the 4th seed, under the very real possibility the 49ers (or the Vikings) win two road games we’ll get to host the NFC championship.
2: Momentum is real.
3: Fuck the 49ers, sweeping them and reclaiming the west is a good season regardless of the playoffs.
Henry Taylor
Actually not the Vikings because we’d play them in the wild card round.
cha
1-winning the division is always the goal
2-hosting Minnesota at home > going to Dallas or Philly
3-beating SF is always good
4-10-15% chance of hosting the NFCCG is better than none
DC
Don’t name your NFL franchise after a large cat unless you want it to be a cosmic joke.
Lions, Bengals, Jaguars…
Or for that matter, a color.
charlietheunicorn
Freddie Kitchens = *ownership hands out pink slip*
What a crap show by the Browns… you lose to a 1-14 team.. by 10 points.
Preseason expectations of going 10-6 or better and then go 6-10… LOLOLOL
Sea Mode
Ugh, Lions gonna Lion…
Sea Mode
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
1h
The Patriots will play in the wild card round for the first time in 10 years.
Seemed like a fair fight until Wade was ejected and Dobbins was hurt. You can see the SPARQ juice oozing from Dobbins when he runs. Definition of explosive.
I also find it hard to believe that fumble return TD was called incomplete.
Hope the championship game is a good one.
Volume12
The Wade call was a tough one. It was the right call, but the rule sucks.
I’m not sure what else he’s supposed to do there when Lawrence ducks his head into bullets flying.
CHawk Talker Eric
I thought Etienne was impressive too. What a great battle between QBs and RBs.
Sea Mode
He certainly was. Has that kind of galloping stride.
Ron Rivera has emerged as a top candidate for the #Redskins and if tomorrow goes well, this could end with a new coach in Washington.
Aaron
I pity anyone who coaches that terrible NFL franchise
Aaron
*The Deadskins
CHAWK Talker Eric
The last pick in the draft is known as Mr. Irrelevant. The last game of the 2019 season, the last game of the decade, the last game of the 100th NFL season is anything but irrelevant.
Here’s to hoping they play their best game, whatever the outcome.
I think they are keeping things closed to their chest. There is no reason to win this game. I would rather play Eagles than Vikings next week. And go to SF again in two weeks.
There is no good to come out of spending all your energy this week. Give Lynch some carries, tweak the scheme for new players & oil the machine for the playoffs.
I feel the same way Rob it’s been a hell of a year with all the ups and downs. But the goose is cooked anything extra is just that. Extra.
line_hawk
Carroll’s teams never go out without a fight. Even in 2010, they beat the odds. I wouldn’t count them out yet. Eagles aren’t world beaters and after that, you will have Lynch in game shape. Plus, Diggs, Clowney, Brown & company might be back. And we will play 49ers a third time & those games are never blowouts.
Lots of draft picks and good cap space in the offseason but also lots of FA and almost an entire OL that could change. Also Pete in last year of contract in 2020, right? Crossroads perhaps for the franchise.
The problem this year is injuries and a crap pass rush.
Aaron
I would tend to agree with you Rob. Just thought I’d being up his contract situation. Never know when he’ll hang it up, just look at Chris Petersen. Pass rush, speed on defense, more weapons at receiver are among the priorities this offseason.
line_hawk
Better than playing Vikings imo.
Kenny Sloth
Ifedi trying to hold Russ up after allowing an easy 3rd down sack is a lasting image of this season and his career as a whole
No but you can lose haha. Its early but doesn’t look good, nor did I expect it to.
Chris
Let’s face it. SF have beaten better teams than us down the stretch.
mishima
Did SF just stack 9 on the line and RW had no adjustment or plan? Gotta attack that somehow, someway.
Volume12
Looks like he had the mesh.
Please gor the love of god, spread that stacked box out.
Pran
With end of regular season, where do Hawks stand? Better than last year, more or less same? Did the team take a step forward. It appears process needs more than one off season.
I am a lot more worried about Russ with the way he is closing the season.
Sea Mode
Tonight just a reminder for everyone what our OL used to be like every week.
Sorry !! 3rd and 3 then 3rd and 2 both times throwing the ball just do not understand it. Small ball and moving the chains does not seem to appeal to them. After Lynch got 7 yds on his run it would have been a great boost to them had they given it to him and he picked up the 1st.
mishima
Well, Mode magic was fun while it lasted.
Tony
Man. We look so lifeless on offense and on our heels on defense. I mean if lose, whatever, but let’s atleast play aggressive. The gameplan looks soft overall. It doesnt matter either way. 9ers look on point, we look toast.
Kenny Sloth
Shoulda brought Avril and Chancellor out of retirement too
DC
That’s why you play Blair!
downtownjewelrybryan
him and diggs have that attack style
tedric and lano wait or whiff
Tony
At this point, it’s just confusing that were so reluctant to play young guys some times.
Henry Taylor
That is why Blair needs to be in the game over Hill, we need plays to be made.
CHawk Talker Eric
Kind of amazing they’re down only 13. There isn’t a player on defense who can handle Kittle.
mishima
Might move McDougald up. Nothing to lose.
DC
Maybe Akeem King but that’s a stretch. He handled Kelce last year
John_s
Good lord our WRs have gone MIA. The only place you’ll see them is on the back of a milk carton
Volume12
Every year. Every. Single. Year. There’s a team in the NFL that gets ravaged by injuries in November or December. Gut punch when it ends being your/our team.
Volume12
Hell yeah! Iupati went looking for work
CHawk Talker Eric
At least they’re putting together some kind of drive. Would be great if they could finish it off with a TD
Kenny Sloth
Oh Germain 😢 (you shoulda been a guard))
Volume12
If this didn’t move the sticks. Its what ya brought Lynch in for.
Volume12
Woof
Sea Mode
yikes
Pran
They run right at Bosa behind a 5th string TE Swoopes. Can call much better ..
Pran
At least they gave it to him… settles the dust a little. Should have been QB sneak or keeper
DC
Gotta take the points, get on the board with a little bit momentum
Kenny Sloth
Shanahan can score in 60 seconds
Chris
Correct. Unfortunately.
Sea Mode
Well, maybe a break for next week’s game. Their best OL…
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
14m
#Eagles G Brandon Brooks, who left today’s game in a cart suffered a dislocated shoulder that was popped back into place, source said. He’ll have scans tomorrow to learn the damage and his status for this weekend is uncertain.
McZ
They have great depth and our pass rush… I mean, what pass rush?
Aaron
I’m out, on to Philly next week.
Tony
Well atleast they didnt get cute and not make it. Everyone would yell we have lynch. But swoopes on bosa not the best matchup.
Sea Mode
Lol, NY just got the memo they need to review this and maybe give us a break if they want to make this any semblance of a game…
Pran
How that helps Hawks…
Volume12
I thought Collinsworth nailed it.
There’s opportunities there. For whatever reason, if Seattle can’t run they can’t execute.
Kingdome1976
Which is why I keep harping on getting another stud RB that can handle the rock for 3 downs. I know it’s unpopular but we are useless without a running game. If Carson goes out we are done for…..MORE than ANY other team in the league that has playoff hopes.
Pran
If Hawks wants to be in the game, they have to call some designed ruin plays for Russ.
Pran
Read as Run.. with out that ruined anyways.
Volume12
I actually think they need to pass more. 🤷♂️
Tony
Neither is working. I want execution. Do something well please.
Volume12
Singling him out here but it’s a perfect example.
The Ifedi penalty on that last drive. That’s an opportunity ya scheme for. Seattle got the coverage they wanted, set a man in motion, and shoot themselves in the foot.
mishima
Sequencing out of sync. Commit to something.
McZ
This is what many, many people were sayin’ the last two years. Run first plan nice and well, but what if you cannot enforce the run? The passing offense is conservative as hell, no creativity, no vertical, no separation, no spread, no slot.
We can be a run-enforcing team first, but we need to have a plan B, that consists of more than RW improvising.
Volume12
They need something outta the slot badly.
Would not hate Justin Jefferson. The new age slot receiver.
I love how we produce a top-five DVOA offense all year and a MVP candidate then half the team gets hurt and it’s all ‘Plan B isn’t good enough’.
Canadian Hawk
Brutal half of football.
Couldn’t play any worse.
How are we down only 13?
Pran
1st half review: defense only gave up 13
Offense: Only turned over once on downs
Sea Mode
4th down stop was a back breaker in a game where we are already broken.
Trevor
I have never been an Ifedi hater or fan but he has been flat out awful the second half of this season. I don’t see anyway he gets anything more that a one year mid level deal on the free agent market and I really hope Hawks let him walk.
Well if you don’t sign your only good player on the DL and let him walk, good luck finding value on the open market and being able to replace him and the other spots that desperately need help.
Trevor
I agree Rob the Hawks are in a bad spot when it comes to the DL but has he looked like a $20 mil /yr + player to you?
People were always trying to get Britt out of town but I think they really miss him in the Run game. Hunt battles but is just too small to get much movement.
Tony
Unfortunately I had the feeling all week this was going to happen. I tried to hope lynch would ignite us, but my gut feeling was a bad showing for the 3rd time in 4 weeks. Just a sad ending to the season. And to get gutted by 9ers in the end is so discouraging.
I just need hope, give me something other than this effort.
Sure, I think we all internally had a feeling on this. I was happy — and still am — that Marshawn gave us a distraction and some hope over Xmas. But yes, the writing was on the wall.
Kenny Sloth
F*** that lets go win this thing!!! Let’s GOOO ROB
Sea Mode
I won’t rule him out completely, but it seems so far the Lynch move was just a PR win for both him and the Hawks.
Tony
Its a brilliant move for lynch. He can come in and be the savior for Seattle. If they dont go far, he still goes for being a Seattle legend. But if they go far, he stamps his career with legend status. It’s a no lose situation for him and us. We were desperate anyways. And a street signing doesnt do much anyways.
Sea Mode
KJ the screen sniffer
Kenny Sloth
It’s just a game!! Let’s send their a**** to Philly
They manufactured that matchup specifically for this type of scenario — regaining the swing back their way. Worked a treat.
CHawk Talker Eric
How the hell do you let the FB get downfield all by himself?
Volume12
Shannahan just continues to sh** all over Pete’s Cover 3.
Matt
It’s the jimmies and the joes, not the x’s and the o’s.
Bring in more talent in D.
Kenny Sloth
It’s the injuries woes
Matt
As we all knows.
Now let’s read some Cat in the Hat. 😉
John_s
I hope next year we don’t have to see Kendricks in coverage. We need a true nickel guy
CHawk Talker Eric
It’s not the same as a TO but stopping SF from converting the 2 point conversion is still a boost. Homer continues to run well. Holister continues to help move the chains.
Nothing against Russell but he’s just not as fast as he was. Yeah I know Bosa is quick, but it’s hard to argue Wilson hasn’t lost a step.
Volume12
Lol. Bosa has made 2 great plays, but your right. Looks like he’s running in quicksand.
That kind of makes the night watching Lynch score a TD
Henry Taylor
That made me so happy
mishima
Money.
charlietheunicorn
Not going quietly into the night!
SoCal12
All I wanted from this game was a Marshawn TD. I am happy camper no matter the results now.
Sea Mode
It’s all been worth it now! Beast Mode!
Now we just need a fortunate turnover on defense.
CHawk Talker Eric
Don’t look now but it’s a 5 point game with 10 minutes left, Wilson is settling into a rhythm and diagnosing SF defense. If SEA defense can get a stop or hold SF to a FG, there’s a chance.
Give me Kenneth Murray in the first, Everson Griffin reached his sacks clause and can be a free agent. Go ahead sign him up. Speed at the LB is a must
We need an Al Woods run stiffer replacement.
Matt
Yep. Can’t draft WR first. If no D help there, trade back or get creative, but the D is the bigger issue. At least that’s what I’d do… even though, as Rob is great as analyzing, they’ll probably go WR.
Weapons sound nice. D wins championships.
Chris
Ordinary. Very ordinary.
Chris
They are scoring at will – and have all year. We’ve no answer.
I agree. CJ should’ve been gone after last year hes made of glass.
Volume12
Same wavelength again per usual.
CHawk Talker Eric
Homer has acquitted himself rather well tonight.
mishima
I keep hearing Homer called ‘Palmer.” Just me?
Volume12
Ahhh f***
Sea Mode
Don’t you even dare, football gods…
Tony
I see a pattern where once we start doing something well, someone goes down to halt that. Defense, run game, offense.
Kenny Sloth
Just need one eency little stop
Volume12
DK bay bay! Boom
CHawk Talker Eric
Sweet catch by DK plucked that right out of the air
CHawk Talker Eric
Ok one more time. Can this defense make a stop?
Sea Mode
Would be a minor miracle at this point. I believe!
Chris
Just about!!
Volume12
This D needs something more than ever right about now
Aaron
Defense, just one stop or takeaway…is that too much to ask???
CHawk Talker Eric
Nice tackle by Griffin
CHawk Talker Eric
This is the game. Get off the field
CHawk Talker Eric
JFC as it is they needed every one of those 17 yards to make the stop
CHawk Talker Eric
No mistakes. They can win this
Volume12
Tell ya what. Win, lose, or draw. This team has been in every game but 2 this year. So impressive when ya think about how banged up they’ve been combined with lack of pass rush.
Canadian Hawk
1000%.
Ton of heart.
Volume12
A big reason why IMO Pete & John love those guys that’ve battled through some type of adversity. A game ain’t ever too much for them.
Sea Mode
+12
CHawk Talker Eric
That’s the PC culture
Sea Mode
It all comes down to this. RW time!
CHawk Talker Eric
This might be DK’s best game so far.
Volume12
Yup
mishima
2 words: baby aspirin.
CHawk Talker Eric
2 more words: Portable defibrillator
Henry Taylor
This is why I can never sleep after Seattle games, it always takes me a good hour to get my heart rate down.
Sea Mode
I’m not shhhakiing, you’re shaking…
CHawk Talker Eric
George Fant has had a nice game. Bosa hasn’t been much of a pass rushing factor.
You can’t its up to the officials…. insane we have this issue in a billion dollar industry
CHawk Talker Eric
No time out, no challenge.
icb12
Not to mention no challenges inside two minutes anyway right?
Matt
Dude… it’s under 2 minutes. Can’t challenge.
Trevor
Devasting loss! Hawks played hard but that delay of game penalty is inexcusable.
Volume12
Absolutely.
CHawk Talker Eric
Huge blunder on that delay of game. Gotta wonder. But I’m not even mad. That’s as close as you can get. They clearly aren’t the better team so a win was always improbable.
mishima
Pete doesn’t like the one-yard line. /smh
Pran
8 attempts in response.. 1 yard line .. 0 points.
We find ways to lose the game as usual
Pran
Read as in Red Zone
Matt
Find ways to lose? You looked at this team’s record under Carroll?
It sucked to lose but a heck your hyperbole at the door. 🤦🏻♂️
Kenny Sloth
That finger was over the line 😤😤
Kenny Sloth
We didn’t deserve to be in that game, but it came down to an inch. Can’t believe we couldn’t get one yard
Pran
Yet again..
Aaron
On to Philly and a chance to meet up again with the 49ers in the Divisional Round in two weeks. The division crown decided by an inch.
Sea Mode
Fitting ending.
The delay of game sucks the most.
The non PI call, or at least booth review, sucks the next most.
Hollister an inch short: bummer, but that’s just football.
Donovan
Hell of an effort! That’s a team I love and respect t.
FWIW, I think Philly & Green Bay is easier road than Min & NO.
I want Rd 3 of Niners-Hawks in NFC Champ Game!
charlietheunicorn
Fant was late back to the huddle, led to the delay of game.
CHawk Talker Eric
It’s hard to overstate the opportunity lost by Carroll on that delay of game. Not only would they have won the game and the division, but winning it on that play with Lynch would’ve been so beneficial for everyone. It would’ve put the ghosts of SB49 to rest. What a missed opportunity.
Sea Mode
Huge point there. What a storyline that would have been. Oh well.
Ramses
Wait! What exactly was Carrol supposed to do? Call a time-out?
Trevor
So we beat Philly next week and then play in SF?
Aaron
The lowest remaining seed will play the 49ers in two weeks. If…
We win and Vikings lose: Seahawks vs. 49ers
We win and Vikings win: Vikings vs 49ers
Sea Mode
MIN vs. NO grudge match sounds good to me…
charlietheunicorn
The Seattle offense woke up… and gave them time to start getting Lynch into the game and the offense. Next week, they should be getting back to themselves.. and start rolling on the road.
Henry Taylor
Absolutely gutting to come that close, but can’t be too mad at that effort. We’ll most likely get to do round 3 in a couple weeks so long as we can kill of the Eagles
Won ‘t be easy. The stat I saw, was in the last two year, in games the Hawks have played a team twice in a year, they are 7-i the first time and 1-6 the second time. Hard to beat a good team twice in a year, especially when the second game is on their turf.
Another example of sleep walking thru first half of games. So let me see if I have this correct. You can only challenge pass interference if pass interference was called?
Sea Mode
No, you can challenge PI non-calls as well. But no coaches challenges at all allowed inside 2 minutes.
Which is kind of a dumb rule since so many games are won or lost in the last 2 minutes. And gain the Hawks can only blame themselves for sleep walking through the first half.
John_s
Anyone else screaming for Russ to sneak it after Ursua’s catch instead of spiking it? There was such a mess going on would’ve been a good chance he scored.
Pran
I was hoping they do that and catch defense off guard.
Sea Mode
commentator hinted at the idea
12th chuck
good thing nfl has p.i. review now….or not. But the Monday apology on how they missed the call will be worth it…or not. Delay of game was inexcusable. Damn glad Lockett is ok, we definitely need Diggs back. So many things you can complain about, but at least we are in the playoffs, niners will have a harder schedule next year and we have a winnable game next week
12th chuck
p.s. and we made it a game in the second half, that I am happy about for sure. It looked like it was going to be a blowout
Perfect instance of shooting ourselves in the foot. Ball on the 1/2 yard line, and after stopping the clock, we can’t get a play off before taking a delay of game penalty. This is why Carroll can never be in the same conversation with Belichick.
Forrest
Hell of a game, I obviously had issues, but I also saw some life in this team that has been missing for a few weeks…also, remember everyone, it’s a “rebuild” year ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Onto Philly where I can only hope the “road warrior” mentality remains. Go Hawks!
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I was just watching the video & realized how crazy those teams were. Lynch, Sherman, Thomas, Kam, Wagner, Avril, Wilson, Wright, Baldwin all on the field at the same time.. that truly was a golden age!
Watching those 50 career-defining plays makes me ask why Buffalo ever let him go. I know Lynch had off-field issues in Buffalo and they drafted another RB (forget who) but still–the Buffalo tape shows a unique talent.
I really like the decision to bring Lynch back. The “worst” thing that can happen is the Seahawks lose to the Niners and are one and done in the playoffs–Lynch goes out as a Seahawk, the way it always should have been.
The best case scenario is the stuff Hallmark movies are made of. In any case, I get to wear my Lynch jersey one more time.
This LSU vs Oklahoma game. Bloody hell it’s a massacre after three drives.
Oklahoma are this years ‘fourth team that is only here to make up the numbers’.
Nice response though.
That catch by CeeDee Lamb 👀
Oklahoma is going to have to score 50 if they want to win this game. LOL
Oklahoma won’t win this game. But I can still admire a great play by someone from the losing team.
Don’t watch much college football so this is my first watching of Burrow, trying to get a look at the new Bengals starting QB haha
Holy shit that last Burrow throw on the third down…that dude is magical
I can’t believe Burrows ball placement on his deep throws, he is literally throwing dimes long range to WRs where it ends up right in there hands…crazy how high his talent level
Someone is gonna get an absute steal on day 2 in LSU WR Justin Jefferson. He might need to be bumped up into the round 1 discussion.
Dude he’s making a case for R1 consideration. He’s totally outshining Lamb, though that’s as much because he’s got Burrow throwing to him instead of Hurts. But still…he looking good
Elite seperation skills, makes great adjustments to the ball, and the thing I like most about him that IMO will translate over to Sundays is his ability to exploit holes in a defense/coverage.
Draft stock going up.
As Rob has mentioned, there are a lot of talented receivers in this draft. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
Stupid stupid play Radley-Hiles. Talk about letting your teammates down.
The more I see of CEH and Justin Jefferson, the more I like of both.
Jalen Hurts is not good.
Joe Burrow is an incredible story. I’m trying to think of a college QB in a major program who went became so significantly better in almost every facet of the position in such a short amount of time. There are “system” QB’s who suddenly become stat kings, but Burrow’s development was mind-bogglingly explosive. He looks like he could step in and run an NFL offense tomorrow.
These Burrow throws are something else man. Such a pretty spiral. Bengals must be pretty stoked right now lol.
Burrows and Mixon will be such a fun backfield
Wow Justin Jefferson totally stole the Alex Morgan score counting celebration! How unsportsmanlike
Blow out in the second quarter of a playoff game…CFB is crazy
LSU’s K’Lavon Chaisson has been the best defender on the field so far
I wonder when in the draft hes gonna go and where we might consider him. Would be really nice to add his speed which we desperately need.
But he’s so lean and skinny.
I like the #18 and the leadership and the quickness he shows. They’re doing a very good job making him a factor here. But he’s a niche rusher at best at the next level. There is absolutely no way he can line up at the LOS and play early downs.
True. Where do you think he might fall to though? At some point the talent should be considered even if he ends up a specialist.
I don’t know — need to see how he tests. But he’s so light. There’s no sand in his pants. Which is fine if you want to stand him up and play in space. But he’s not a LOS player and for me the Seahawks need more than anything some twitch up front who can play early and often. If they want a niche role player they already have Shaquem. I think Chaisson can play a more expanded role than Shaquem and maybe be more of a SAM who can rush sometimes but this team needs full time, top end pass rush and quality across the DL.
In this game maybe. But I think Ken Murray might be the best defender at the next level. Too bad he’s not 100% for this game.
Absolute bloodbath
Next year’s TE class is loaded!
You looking at Thaddeus Moss too?
Should call full time at half time in this game. Get Clemson and Ohio State on early.
I hope they let Burrows pass for 10 TDs
Burrow and Jefferson have to be threatening some all time records, or at least Bowl records if they keep up this pace in the 2nd half.
Wow. Riley’s got his hands full just to get his team’s psyche patched together for the second half.
Burrow = Brady
The best comp. Doesn’t mean he’ll be Brady. The mental quality and competitive nature of Brady is different level. But if we’re looking for a comp there it is.
Damn Rob that is quite the compliment. I would say he is more athletic than Brady but other than that very similar. It will be interesting to see if he can turn around the Bengals franchise. They better protect him.
Much more athletic.
In fairness to Cincy they spent two R1 picks on their OL recently and traded for Cordy Glenn. Goes to show how hard it is to build a line. And in the league QB’s HAVE to improvise now. Lines are overmatched across the league. Your QB has to be able to create when plays breakdown. HAVE TO.
Not to pick nits, but he’s so much more athletic and creative than Brady, that I don’t think the comparison is apt. For me I like to comp him to Brees, because he can do so much outside of the pocket while being clinically accurate throwing at all levels.
But you’re falling into the trap of thinking a comp has to be perfect. No two players are the same. You could put up take of Vick and Lamar and find differences. But you’d still make the comp.
No comp is perfect, and I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen another QB navigate the pocket like Brady and Burrow do. Love Burrow’s demeanor. Moment never seems too big for him. Very Rodgers-like blasé type
Crazy that Lamar is already throwing like veteran Vick with Atlanta Vick’s legs. And maybe more sauce than the position has ever seen.
I was just about to ask if anyone else thinks Burrow might be the best QB prospect of the last 25 years.
Almost asked that last night.
Mayfield had some pretty ugly character red flags despite his statistical otherworldliness.
Luck was a nearly flawless prospect, but Burrows is clearly the more competitive person, from what I know. Sad how it ended up for Luck.
I’d probably have to call him the surest thing since Manning.
Trevor Lawrence looks pretty amazing, too, but I get a strange vibe from him. Kind of ‘yippy’ iykwim
Luck was supposed to be the best prospect since Manning. I mean everyone knew he was the #1 pick before his last college season even began (remember suck for Luck campaign). With that said Burrow has all the tools you want. Hopefully he has a long, successful career (except when he is playing the Seahawks).
The ones that come to the top of my mind at the moment are Elway, Luck, and Trevor Lawrence. It’s one of the reasons why I think Clemson is the only team that can take down LSU, as good as Ohio State may be.
Will Blackmon said that he saw some Troy Aikman in Burrow. I think that’s a great comparison
Burrow is good but this game doesn’t show anything. There is no pressure from the dline and every receiver he finds is wide open. I want to see a brawl like what Deshawn Watson & Kyler Murray had to go through vs Alabama in the playoffs. Otherwise, I don’t know how Burrows will do against the extremely physical AFC North.. with TJ Watt in his face all day long.
….. He already beat Alabama
Quite aside that Burrow has already gone toe-to-toe with a list of big-time teams including Alabama — how on earth are you saying he’s throwing to only wide open receivers? He’s dropping absolute dimes.
Absolutely. And some of the open receivers he did hit were a result of his savvy buying of time. That long scramble where he released it near the sideline and hit that receiver was one of the best pass plays I saw all year in college.
+1
Again, this is not to criticize him. He deserves to go No 1.
Having gotten that out, there are areas where he is untested. This game he is sitting in the pocket with no pressure and throwing dimes to wide open receivers. He won’t find either in the nfl. His style is better suited to NFC East or NFC South. In AFC North, he is going to get beaten up.. something, he hasn’t faced this year due to a superior offensive line.
So funny because the narrative is that he won his team over with the way he would take hits and always got back up
Yes narratives are that..narratives. But how many times has he had to lead his team back from big deficits? Or had to will his team when things weren’t going his way? That’s what I meant when I referred to the Watson & Murray playoff games.
The thing with Burrow is that there’s nothing that suggests he wouldn’t be up to such a task. Everything I’ve seen of him is that he a steely and cool mental makeup. You can see that quality when he’s under pressure. Also, the way he got to where has (just incredible) in itself show his resiliency of character.
Anyway…ever since my attention was drawn to him early this season, I’ve founf it hard to come up with flaws or concerns in his game or mental makeup.
And how many times has he walked on water, or cured a disease?
Etc etc
Burrow has done everything and more.
He actually did all of that in 2018. In November 2018, I wrote how high I was about his mental quality. Now, he adds a refined technique, lateral quickness and precision.
He is a true #1 pick.
Several of those touchdown were into coverage, and hes been scrambling around to create throws. Feels like the ‘sit in pocket and easy throws’ is really stretching it.
….. He already beat Alabama
As a Husky fan, the gap between Burrow and Eason in the coming draft is Grand Canyon-esque.
Rob I know you are not a fan it I think K’lavon Chaisson is exactly the type of speed rusher the Hawks need. He is a little light similar to Brain Burns but he has the frame to put on size easily. Or he could be utilized in a Bruce Irvin SAM type roll.
If he tests as expected he will be a top 20 pick up if he is on the board I hope the Hawks give him a look.
Chaisson in. Rd #1 and Jefferson in Rd #2 would be sweet.
It’s not a case of being a fan or not. It’s about understanding his role, his fit.
It’s simply not true that he’s the type of speed rusher Seattle needs. He’s not a speed rusher at the next level. He has the frame of a linebacker. There is absolutely no way you could line him up at DE. He’s not like Brian Burns either. Burns was a gangly, lean player who needed to gain weight to his sleight frame. Chaisson doesn’t have the frame to gain much weight. He looks relatively filled out — he’s just lean.
If you recall I had Burns in the top-10 of my mocks until I read he was playing in the 220’s. So I dropped him amid fears of him being able to add and retain weight. When he showed up big at the combine, I moved him up a bit again. Chaisson is very different and not the same type of player or prospect.
If you want someone who can basically do what Shaquem does now or potentially develop over time into a SAM — I’m happy to talk about Chaisson.
The Seahawks don’t need a part-time rusher though. They need someone with real twitch who can play the edge and get after the QB and make plays.
They need a Cliff Avril not a part-time tweener.
And the talk of Chaisson in R1 really has to stop.
Agree about needing an Avril type but those type guys are so rare and I dont see one in this draft class.
I completely disagree about Chiasson and think he is a 1st round lock if he tests well at combine.
I like Chaisson and think he has R1 potential but understand Rob’s concerns about size. I think a guy like Tyler Johnson is much less likely than Chaisson to be picked in round 1 (think rob had Johnson in R1 a couple mocks back). Not silly to consider either one of those guys early though IMO.
NFL is hungry for speed and disruption on D. He’s honestly pretty thick looking in his lower body, doesn’t look at all like Burns did last year (also not nearly as disruptive and well rounded as a rusher). Seems like he’s already put in a ton of work in the weight room and he’s listed at 6ft 4 and 250 pounds (I bet he is a little smaller than that).
I think he comps out to someone like Vic Beasley with added coverage skills. The hawks have drafted a similar type early in Bruce Irvin. I think he would similarly be a SAM/LEO which is essentially an every down player. He doesn’t get knocked around the way Shaquem does on Sundays and Queem has not shown anything in coverage and hasn’t looked great in space.
Not many 260+ pound pass rushers with legit burst lasting to where the hawks are picking (maybe just Gross Matos this year of the high profile guys). You can get Chaisson on the field for a high percentage of snaps because he can cover and looks good in space unlike some other undersized rushers. I like Terell Lewis better though if we’re looking for a pure pass rushing specialist.
His upper body is tiny. There’s no structural power base. He does his best work moving around the line to find areas where he can stay clean.
I don’t see Vic Beasley at all. He’s not remotely like Bruce Irvin. Come on guys. The difference is absolutely massive and stark.
Irvin for two years was the best pure EDGE in college football and would’ve dominated even more had he not been placed in a weird three-man front at WVU. Beasley was an absolute terror as a pure EDGE and had massive, sustained production. Both players tested on an elite level. Both were very happy to engage and win with a repertoire.
Chaisson neither has the production or, as of yet, the testing ability. The only comp is that they weren’t big guys and neither is Chaisson. That’s it. That really is it.
Yep he lacks the production of Bruce or Beasley. Not as dominant or polished and not perfect comps by any means and mostly based on size and athletic ability comparisons. I think he will test well and he is playing his best ball recently with 4.5 sacks in the last 3 games. Including some clear straight up pass rush wins against those Georgia tackles. He’s won in a variety of ways not just moving around the line and finding open gaps but for sure that’s been part of his production. He looks like a player to me, R1 could be a little rich considering his size he might not hold up on the LOS but I don’t think it’s out of the question.
I think he’s a long way off R1 and maintain that the two comps are just because he’s smaller. Bruce and Beasley played very differently and had very different careers.
As much as I love coming to this site this is the thing that bothers me most. This is all opinion not fact so none of us are wrong and none of us are right. He may or may not go in the first round but he has the freakish athleticism that teams love to gamble on. Im with you Trevor, I would like him as a Seahawks prospect. Just not sure if PC/JS will or not.
No problem with disagreeing but Trevor not every player has to be a first rounder if you like them. Chaisson has no characteristics other than some apparent athleticism to warrant any remote talk of round one. He doesn’t have an obvious position, massive production or massive upside.
Nobody’s saying don’t like the guy. But round one?
And just because there isn’t an obvious Avril doesn’t mean we need to take someone like Chaisson. They can address that need in free agency.
When I think of Chaisson I think of two former LSU Tigers in Danielle Hunter and Barkevious Mingo. They are all built the same and have a similar athletic profile. All about 6’5″ 250 and all have had low production as Tigers which is strange.One was picked 6 overall and hasnt had a really good career so far and the other was a 3rd rounder who has excelled. Both Hunter and Mingo had similar combine numbers so it will be interesting to see Chaisson’s numbers if he does declare. If I was a betting man he doesnt get selected in round one but could.
Hunter looked had the frame though and needed to add weight. He was unproductive in college but you could see a pathway to starting. Mingo was legit at LSU for a while. Again, I don’t think these are great comps. Chaisson more like the tweener LB types.
Just dropped in on some Twitter clips to see what all the Burrow hype tonight is about. Wow, some unbelievable throws.
The arm isn’t quite as strong to my eye, but the improv skills in particular might be more comparable to Mahomes than Brady?
Bengals fans everywhere rejoice… They should probably just draft Jefferson with the first pick of R2 as well and keep them together… Anyway, will also be interesting to see if they can flip Dalton’s last contract year for an extra R2 or R3 pick from someone.
Totally psyched for Ohio State and Clemson. A talent-fest. What a match-up.
Has the potential to be a classic. Lawrence and the Clemson WR agains Ohio St secondary is going to be so much fun to watch.
If Feilds is healthy I think Ohio St takes it 35 -30
I have no idea how it will turn out. I give a slight edge to Clemson because of Trevor Lawrence and Dabo. But nothing would surprise me other than a blowout by either team.
…about that OSU ‘holding Burrow/LSU to17’…
Corvus consumptis
I don’t see Mahomes at all, to go really old school I see Burrows as more of a Dan Marino type. I’d agree with a Tom Brady comp as well, but Brady has showed very little potential to be a franchise savior in college, and because all of his plus traits are intangibles always feel like Brady comparisons are kinda back handed compliments saying someone has below average arm, and athleticism. Based on super bowl wins Brady might be the goat, but if I was building a team from the ground up I’d take a Marino over a Brady.
Burrow has similar accuracy, awareness and arm strength but he’s much more mobile than Marino ever was.
I see a bit of BYU Steve Young in him. He’s probably the better passer while Young was more athletic and mobile, but otherwise they have similar capabilities.
Marino? He is like 58 years old. If I’m building a team from the ground up I’d start with a much younger QB.
A hand= an elbow, knee, or foot now?
This OSU defense is impressive.
Clemson’s gonna get boatraced. They ain’t played nobody.
Ball game!
Is Dobbins the top back in the draft? Looking late R1 to me.
What a game from Dobbins. Should be a healthy boost to his stock.
I dont think I’ve enjoyed watching a college quarterback this much in my life. Joe Burrow is simply outplaying every defensive he plays. His attitude, poise and sheer will to win is a breath of fresh air. Kudos to the kid.
Man o man.. what a video. patience, cuts, balance, strength, vision and finish.. feed the crowd with the video in the stadium before the game.m and let beastmode get to work.
Is Trevor Lawrence gritty enough? Let’s find out together ❤
Sure looks like it
Man. Imagine if Tom Brady and Peyton Manning could move like Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence respectively.
Oh yes he is
Wow. 16-14 at the half. Ohio State must be thinking what do we have to do? If you’re Clemson, you’ve wrestled momentum back big time.
Second half could be thunderdome.
Feel for Shaun Wade. He has special ability.
Assuming he declares — and the suggestions are he will — he will be a big riser in the media eventually. I’ve had him in R1 a long time. Can play inside/out. Seahawks probably won’t consider him because he’s a corner who will go early but he’d be ideal as a guy who can operate in the slot and fit outside when needs be.
He looked good tonight. That whole OSU defense were hitting as hard as the NFL. I’ve seen so much talent today on the field it’s really mind-boggling.
Part of me wishes they’d take him- but would probably spell KJ or Kendricks. He’s like Minkah Fitzpatrick in his versatility. Can’t help but wonder if that role is increasing in value in the new NFL.
Higgens is back. Huge for Clemson.
Marcus Peters gets $14M a year. How much does Griffin get?
OSU coverage has been brutally good.
Clemson takes the lead. Who would have thunk about 45 minutes ago? Football.
Really interesting game so far. As competitive as advertised. OSU seems to have lost steam after failing to finish. Can’t see either of these teams beating LSU though.
The Clemson defense came up big in the red-zone. If not, this game is of a different color.
Okudah showing why he’s the top cornerback in the draft.
I’m sold. He’s awesome.
The hitting in this game is almost surreal. Thunderdome.
Ohio State dominated for most of a half, showed they belonged, and yet found a way to loose. Wow!
Trevor Lawrence…the guy’s a total stud.
What a game. Great display of talent on both teams. OSU was knocking on the door and then woops. That interceptions going to be haunting Fields for a while. Hope he can use it as motivation next year.
I think this game showed how coaching can trump talent. Swinney had his guys in it for 60 minutes. Both teams were equally matched talent-wise, but Clemson fought back after getting punched in the mouth.
That game was my kind of game. Hard hitting. Total grit. In the trenches. Blood sweat and tears. Players laying everything they had out there on the grid iron.
Awesome.
Decided by a overturned fumble recovery TD… which was very poor officiating.
Have to add, this crew also officiated ‘Bama-Auburn, and they were a joke, too. If that is the best the SEC has to offer, their officiating must be in utter shambles.
Ohio State had three chances to get a TD in the red zone in the first half, and then again didn’t punch it in at the end. OSU have themselves to blame for the loss. Nobody else.
*takes bow*
Clemson vs LSU
But holy smokes, Burrow goes #1… no doubt about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YElDeUFMX4c
Such a great watch, MoneyLynch 100%
*insert foot in mouth here*
Was Ohio St drunk? Left at least TDs on the field and just some odd decisions from Ryan Day. No such thing as ‘chasing points.’ You get the points ypu need. Much like w/Bama you have to kill a Clemson when you get the chance. And than kill ’em again for good measure.
And that’s not taking anything away from the players on both teams or diminishing what they did. Both teams played great.
Joe Burrow killt OK dead. He took off his pads in the 3rd quarter
Remember when Mark Helfrich inherited a stacked Oregon team and led them to a title game shot in his sophomore year? (A demoralizing, humiliating & soul shattering loss to Ohio State)
Two short years later he was shown the door. If Day starts losing to Michigan… the clock starts ticking.
Chase Young showed again last night that while he’s a very talented prospect, some of the ‘OMG BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT’ talk is over the top.
Let’s see how he tests.
+1
All the teams picking after Cincy (Wash, NY, Mia) need a LT badly. I could easily see Andrew Thomas going #2 ahead of Young and he is the far safer pick IMO.
I’m with you Rob- I haven’t watched any other OSU games this season, but I tried to pay attention to Young, and while I would never say he didn’t show-he seemed a bit under-emotional, considering the circumstances. I’d think twice before I’d spring for him with the 2nd pick.
Then again, I’ve watched but little of his play, and then there’s all the pre-draft stuff that’s yet to come.
Dabo Swinney is the new Pete Carrol of College Football. Great recruiter who has built a program with an amazing culture. Those kids play hard and for each other. OSU was clearly the more talented team but the got out coached and Clemson seemed to want it more.
Maybe when Pete decides to retire we can get Dabo to take over for him.
I think Dabo’s next stop will be Alabama.
Dabo’s got a pretty clear path to the CFP every year pillaging the ACC. You think he’d rather follow in Saban’s deep footsteps & risk the SEC mine field than blaze his own legendary trail?
Yes because he’s an Alabama guy.
Is Saban hinting at leaving?
No but I can’t imagine he’ll go on for too much longer
Rumor he might head to NFL….. we will see
Just looked back at Pauline’s season preview of LSU for reference. Burrow was graded as a FA and ascended to the #1 pick. Pretty meteoric rise. Hope his success continues for Cincy. They have suffered enough.
If both guys were coming out who would you take at #1 Burrows or Lawrence?
I think I would take Lawrence but it is a lot closer than I would have dreamed at the start of the year.
‘Sunshine’
Burrows. Burrows has shown the mental game few ever get it in college or pro ball. His physical skills are somewhere below Andrew Lucks but his mental game is above Lucks coming out of college.
Burrows elevated a great college program even higher this year.
It’s a bit rare to see a Qb so aggressively in control. His comfort level is through the roof.
Bazooka Joe
Rob, just got a solid look at your boy Isaiah Wilson of Georgia vs LSU. He certainly looks the part of a Seahawks RT. I know you’ve got him going at #12 now so he wouldn’t be an option.
As far as the Seahawks positional draft order goes, it seems like the Ifedi situation is the lynchpin. Keep him and you can do all kinds of different things (aka, have more fun). If he walks? Much more likely that Seattle drafts a 1st round T.
I could be totally wrong about this but based on past results the FO’s positional spending might stay relatively lower at DB where they successfully draft, develop & acquire players & also at the short shelf life RB position. That money can be used to keep the guys they trust on the OL & help to avoid a repeat of the recent ‘horror show’ years that we all were a witness to. The post-Okung/pre-Brown years being the low point. Someone is going to pay Ifedi more money than most of us think he is worth. For continuity sake and for a more exciting 2020 draft, I hope that someone is us.
Ifedi was as good or better last year than he has been this year and the Hawks declined his 5th year option. I think that tells you all you need to know. If they viewed him as a key component there is no way they dont pick up that option.
Sure but just because they don’t view him as a must have at an expensive cost doesn’t mean they aren’t willing to bring him back once he’s established his actual market.
Very true I guess I just don’t see the Hawks breaking the bank to keep him.
They could also sign a veteran alternative if Ifedi moves on.
It’s shaping up to be a most interesting offseason.
I know the Hawks wont take a CB in Rd #1 but Wade from Ohio St could take our secondary to another level I think. He looks like an elite slot corner to me who can turn the all over and plays really physical.
Griffin and Flowers outside with Wade in the slot and Mcdougald / Diggs at Safety would be a pretty dynamic unit.
The secondary seems pretty damn close to being pretty damn good.
I feel for Burrow. The Bungles are gonna ruin him unless another team steps in and drafts him at no. 1.
I have the same reservations you do. Not worried about Burrows but what’s around him. Mixon, him, Jonah Williams, Tyler Boyd is a nice a little nucleus to build around. Thing is, they need more in front of him and that’s a team who doesn’t spend $ in FA.
I hope KC drafts Travis Etienne
Holy mackrel, the Lions might actually make this interesting!
This game is a great example of much changes week to week in the NFL.
The Tuna Fish are making it interesting in Patriot land.
Fitzmagic strikes again
Can this version of NE roll through Arrowhead AND Baltimore? I think not. The beast may finally be slain but just like any horror move, make sure they are dead before you turn your back.
Detroit can’t bear Green Bay. Impossible.
Man, if Detroit upsets Green Bay (I’ll have to see it to believe it), the stakes for tonight’s game get jacked up.
If the Lions pull off a shocker are the Hawks playing for a Rd #1 bye tonight?
I believe we’d be playing for the #2 seed.
Unless Rodgers pulls magic out of his hat then tonight’s game would definitely have higher stakes.
49ers win: 49ers are 1st seed, Hawks are 5th
Hawks win: 49ers are 5th seed, Hawks are 2nd
If Packers win then…
49ers win: 49ers are 1st seed, Hawks are 5th
Hawks win: 49ers are 5th seed, Hawks are 3rd
F U Lions!!! Trash franchise. It’s pointless to win tonight cuz we don’t get a bye 😡😡😡 #TwitterShockJock
What a drag watching that game just knowing in the back of my mind that the Lions were probably going to come up short and just end up frustrating and disappointing me. I almost wish they had gotten blown out so that I didn’t get sucked into it. LOL
With Green Bay winning, you’d think that you’d have to give serious consideration to resting/sitting those players that are on-the-fence now in terms of their health, players like Clowney. Minnesota at home or (likely) Philly on the road…hmm…close call. I know PC doesn’t tend to think in such terms, but as a fan I do wonder a bit.
Ha, I was just typing up something of the same line of thought, Paul.
The Seahawks twitter folks are probably wanting us to rest our starters and treat this like a preseason finale type game. But for those guys in that building this game is gonna be for the division crown. You gotta think they’re gonna go balls to the wall with that crowd against that team in that spotlight tonight.
There’s something in-between from that. It’s not giving up, but rather just sitting/resting players who are hurt and letting them get healthier for the playoffs. We can still beat the 49ers if things go our way.
No one plays to lose, everyone plays to win (except the BROWNS!). If Seattle beats the 49ers, who cares.. except the current rivalry goes up 100x.
A.J. Brown is a stud.
Rob, or anyone chime in on this.
With both Green Bay and the Saints winning the Hawks have no chance at a number 1 seed. If the 49ers win they do have the first seed.
Would it be prudent to rest everyone you can treat this as a buy week go play wherever we do in round one and two and if we make it to the NFC championship our fans travel well to SF.
Would you realistically roll the dice on a rest game and take your chances?
I’m sure Pete is pondering forfeiture as we write 🤔…
Pause…
Not!!!
Reasons this game is still of great importance:
1: The 3rd seed is still better than the 4th seed, under the very real possibility the 49ers (or the Vikings) win two road games we’ll get to host the NFC championship.
2: Momentum is real.
3: Fuck the 49ers, sweeping them and reclaiming the west is a good season regardless of the playoffs.
Actually not the Vikings because we’d play them in the wild card round.
1-winning the division is always the goal
2-hosting Minnesota at home > going to Dallas or Philly
3-beating SF is always good
4-10-15% chance of hosting the NFCCG is better than none
Don’t name your NFL franchise after a large cat unless you want it to be a cosmic joke.
Lions, Bengals, Jaguars…
Or for that matter, a color.
Freddie Kitchens = *ownership hands out pink slip*
What a crap show by the Browns… you lose to a 1-14 team.. by 10 points.
Preseason expectations of going 10-6 or better and then go 6-10… LOLOLOL
Ugh, Lions gonna Lion…
This was fun.
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1211394652869406720
Montez Sweat is becoming a force of nature.
Has just about taken this game over so far.
He is going to he really good. So is his Miss St team mate Simmons who is a beast as well.
Amazing what happens when you let your pass rushers put their hand in the dirt instead of aaking them to drop into coverage.
IDK why the NFL always overthinks things. We see it every year in the draft too.
The job the Dolphins coaching staff did with that roster is the most impressive thing I have seen in a while.
Would like to see them have a solid draft and get still get Tua because the players refused to tank no matter how hard the front office tried.
+1
#respect
Ok, late to the party, but just watched Clemson vs. Ohio St. highlights and you guys were right: what a game!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhYjN0jBhc
Seemed like a fair fight until Wade was ejected and Dobbins was hurt. You can see the SPARQ juice oozing from Dobbins when he runs. Definition of explosive.
I also find it hard to believe that fumble return TD was called incomplete.
Hope the championship game is a good one.
The Wade call was a tough one. It was the right call, but the rule sucks.
I’m not sure what else he’s supposed to do there when Lawrence ducks his head into bullets flying.
I thought Etienne was impressive too. What a great battle between QBs and RBs.
He certainly was. Has that kind of galloping stride.
EAGLES!!!!!!!!!
Diggs inactive. Mone too.
https://twitter.com/seahawksPR/status/1211435120361533441
Ursua time ;D
If Beast Mode highlights weren’t enough watch these Maori Haka war dances to get you in that kinda mood
https://youtu.be/G6gu8Ozv_kI
https://youtu.be/1vK166iSwQc
https://youtu.be/lhhedH6wK6I
Alright folks the stage is set…
Win and we are the 3 seed and host the Vikings next week
Lose and we are the 5th seed and go to Philly next week
Ty Sambrailo thundered for a 35 yard touchdown and why wasn’t I immediately notified?!?!?!?
My assistant is fired af
I pity anyone who coaches that terrible NFL franchise
*The Deadskins
The last pick in the draft is known as Mr. Irrelevant. The last game of the 2019 season, the last game of the decade, the last game of the 100th NFL season is anything but irrelevant.
Here’s to hoping they play their best game, whatever the outcome.
Beast Mode is back and I am living for it!
GO HAWKS!
BTW, Derrick Henry, damn boy!
He sure did develop into a powerhouse runner.
Can’t wait for that 1st run by Beastmode! Let’s go boys!
Let’s gooo!
Lmaaaao let’s feed Brown and Homer. Those are our stars
In fairness it emphasises where we are. What stars do we have? Even Lockett ain’t 80%.
So true. I just want Marshawn. Even if he doesn’t ever get past the LOS. Feed the Beast plz
Nice sack! Way to go Flowers
Yup. 2 sacks already. Gotta shake up Jimmy G asap.
Wilson had plenty of time to hit a WR on a slant or a quick out or any kind of quick hitting pass. Schotty needs to call better plays.
Thank you DK more of that. Best play of the year for him IMHO
Then he does exactly what we hate on 3rd and short.
Jumps unnecessarily and tries to body catch against a smaller safety
Remember when route running was supposed to be his major issue
No
*6’3 corner
Fixed it for ya
🙄
Fix homeboy’s technique
It’s early but feels like our goose is cooked. We have absolutely nothing on offense. The injuries and suspensions have done for us.
At least Dickson is on his game… 🤷♂️
Looking pretty lackluster for sure
No WR options outside of Metcalf. Lickety still injured and Moore sacrificed to Sherm.
It’s often how healthy you are at this time of year. And we’re the second most injured team in the playoff mix.
It’s entirely up to the defense. If they can keep it a 1-2 score game, maybe just maybe they can steal one late in the game.
Looking pretty lackluster for sure
We’re looking to DK Metcalf to be a game winner 😬😬😬
This offense is deteriorated quietly. Once Lockette is taken care by defense there is none to step up.
Sort of. More so when you lose Carson, Penny, Gordon, Brown, Prosise, Dissly, Britt though.
When Garoppolo can deliver into ultra tight windows but Wilson can’t…🙄
They’re on schedule and we aren’t. They have their guys, they have their scheme. They aren’t working around a whole bunch of missing players.
We need something like big turnovers or special teams craziness to be in this. We’re miles behind San Fran with all these injuries.
When Wilson has no protection and an elite Dline rushing him but Jimmy has protection and all the time in the world..
What time? Jimmy’s passes have mostly been quick hits. Ball’s out of his hand in about 2.5 seconds.
We have no consistent pass rush. We’ve had the ball twice. On another note if Tyler Lockett is 80% why is he returning kicks..
I don’t see how having Hill out there is any better than Blair right now.
Dejecting… defense can’t get a stop. Offense can’t take a step. End of season.
That’s embarrassing. Seahawks team tackling has really devolved this season.
Team looks uninspired.
Uninspired.
Injured.
Inadequate.
I was all for Norton as our d coordinator, but tackling is no longer a strong point with this team.
Deebo don’t do it to us. 🤦♂️
Oof…this could get ugly
Yup.
Rams 2017.
Seems our LBs can’t cover TEs.
More Blair, less Hill.
I think they are keeping things closed to their chest. There is no reason to win this game. I would rather play Eagles than Vikings next week. And go to SF again in two weeks.
There is no good to come out of spending all your energy this week. Give Lynch some carries, tweak the scheme for new players & oil the machine for the playoffs.
No, they’re not keeping things close to their chest.
They will come out firing next week. The team seems to lack energy today. Get Brown & Diggs in two weeks & give your best.
No, they wont come out firing next week. The goose is cooked.
I feel the same way Rob it’s been a hell of a year with all the ups and downs. But the goose is cooked anything extra is just that. Extra.
Carroll’s teams never go out without a fight. Even in 2010, they beat the odds. I wouldn’t count them out yet. Eagles aren’t world beaters and after that, you will have Lynch in game shape. Plus, Diggs, Clowney, Brown & company might be back. And we will play 49ers a third time & those games are never blowouts.
Oof x2…looking like a date with Philly
I’m ready for the off season tomorrow.
But we did make some progress this season, whatever the outcome, right???
Dunno. 11 wins vs 10. Pass rush collapsed.
Lots of draft picks and good cap space in the offseason but also lots of FA and almost an entire OL that could change. Also Pete in last year of contract in 2020, right? Crossroads perhaps for the franchise.
The Pete stuff isn’t a thing. Only on twitter.
The problem this year is injuries and a crap pass rush.
I would tend to agree with you Rob. Just thought I’d being up his contract situation. Never know when he’ll hang it up, just look at Chris Petersen. Pass rush, speed on defense, more weapons at receiver are among the priorities this offseason.
Better than playing Vikings imo.
Ifedi trying to hold Russ up after allowing an easy 3rd down sack is a lasting image of this season and his career as a whole
🤔
can u win in the 2nd quarter?
No but you can lose haha. Its early but doesn’t look good, nor did I expect it to.
Let’s face it. SF have beaten better teams than us down the stretch.
Did SF just stack 9 on the line and RW had no adjustment or plan? Gotta attack that somehow, someway.
Looks like he had the mesh.
Please gor the love of god, spread that stacked box out.
With end of regular season, where do Hawks stand? Better than last year, more or less same? Did the team take a step forward. It appears process needs more than one off season.
I am a lot more worried about Russ with the way he is closing the season.
Tonight just a reminder for everyone what our OL used to be like every week.
can we get blair in there?
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Man I love KJ but I don’t see him back next year
Sorry !! 3rd and 3 then 3rd and 2 both times throwing the ball just do not understand it. Small ball and moving the chains does not seem to appeal to them. After Lynch got 7 yds on his run it would have been a great boost to them had they given it to him and he picked up the 1st.
Well, Mode magic was fun while it lasted.
Man. We look so lifeless on offense and on our heels on defense. I mean if lose, whatever, but let’s atleast play aggressive. The gameplan looks soft overall. It doesnt matter either way. 9ers look on point, we look toast.
Shoulda brought Avril and Chancellor out of retirement too
That’s why you play Blair!
him and diggs have that attack style
tedric and lano wait or whiff
At this point, it’s just confusing that were so reluctant to play young guys some times.
That is why Blair needs to be in the game over Hill, we need plays to be made.
Kind of amazing they’re down only 13. There isn’t a player on defense who can handle Kittle.
Might move McDougald up. Nothing to lose.
Maybe Akeem King but that’s a stretch. He handled Kelce last year
Good lord our WRs have gone MIA. The only place you’ll see them is on the back of a milk carton
Every year. Every. Single. Year. There’s a team in the NFL that gets ravaged by injuries in November or December. Gut punch when it ends being your/our team.
Hell yeah! Iupati went looking for work
At least they’re putting together some kind of drive. Would be great if they could finish it off with a TD
Oh Germain 😢 (you shoulda been a guard))
If this didn’t move the sticks. Its what ya brought Lynch in for.
Woof
yikes
They run right at Bosa behind a 5th string TE Swoopes. Can call much better ..
At least they gave it to him… settles the dust a little. Should have been QB sneak or keeper
Gotta take the points, get on the board with a little bit momentum
Shanahan can score in 60 seconds
Correct. Unfortunately.
Well, maybe a break for next week’s game. Their best OL…
They have great depth and our pass rush… I mean, what pass rush?
I’m out, on to Philly next week.
Well atleast they didnt get cute and not make it. Everyone would yell we have lynch. But swoopes on bosa not the best matchup.
Lol, NY just got the memo they need to review this and maybe give us a break if they want to make this any semblance of a game…
How that helps Hawks…
I thought Collinsworth nailed it.
There’s opportunities there. For whatever reason, if Seattle can’t run they can’t execute.
Which is why I keep harping on getting another stud RB that can handle the rock for 3 downs. I know it’s unpopular but we are useless without a running game. If Carson goes out we are done for…..MORE than ANY other team in the league that has playoff hopes.
If Hawks wants to be in the game, they have to call some designed ruin plays for Russ.
Read as Run.. with out that ruined anyways.
I actually think they need to pass more. 🤷♂️
Neither is working. I want execution. Do something well please.
Singling him out here but it’s a perfect example.
The Ifedi penalty on that last drive. That’s an opportunity ya scheme for. Seattle got the coverage they wanted, set a man in motion, and shoot themselves in the foot.
Sequencing out of sync. Commit to something.
This is what many, many people were sayin’ the last two years. Run first plan nice and well, but what if you cannot enforce the run? The passing offense is conservative as hell, no creativity, no vertical, no separation, no spread, no slot.
We can be a run-enforcing team first, but we need to have a plan B, that consists of more than RW improvising.
They need something outta the slot badly.
Would not hate Justin Jefferson. The new age slot receiver.
I love how we produce a top-five DVOA offense all year and a MVP candidate then half the team gets hurt and it’s all ‘Plan B isn’t good enough’.
Brutal half of football.
Couldn’t play any worse.
How are we down only 13?
1st half review: defense only gave up 13
Offense: Only turned over once on downs
4th down stop was a back breaker in a game where we are already broken.
I have never been an Ifedi hater or fan but he has been flat out awful the second half of this season. I don’t see anyway he gets anything more that a one year mid level deal on the free agent market and I really hope Hawks let him walk.
They just have to get some young talented o linemen. These guys aren’t moving the d line.
I know Clowney has been hurt the second half of the year but has he looked anything like a $20 mil /yr plus player?
I can only think of one game against SF last time where he was a real difference maker.
Fixing the pass rush has to be priority #1 this off season but is signing Clowney for $100 mil+ really the answer? I am not so sure.
Well if you don’t sign your only good player on the DL and let him walk, good luck finding value on the open market and being able to replace him and the other spots that desperately need help.
I agree Rob the Hawks are in a bad spot when it comes to the DL but has he looked like a $20 mil /yr + player to you?
Yes at various times this year.
People were always trying to get Britt out of town but I think they really miss him in the Run game. Hunt battles but is just too small to get much movement.
Unfortunately I had the feeling all week this was going to happen. I tried to hope lynch would ignite us, but my gut feeling was a bad showing for the 3rd time in 4 weeks. Just a sad ending to the season. And to get gutted by 9ers in the end is so discouraging.
I just need hope, give me something other than this effort.
Sure, I think we all internally had a feeling on this. I was happy — and still am — that Marshawn gave us a distraction and some hope over Xmas. But yes, the writing was on the wall.
F*** that lets go win this thing!!! Let’s GOOO ROB
I won’t rule him out completely, but it seems so far the Lynch move was just a PR win for both him and the Hawks.
Its a brilliant move for lynch. He can come in and be the savior for Seattle. If they dont go far, he still goes for being a Seattle legend. But if they go far, he stamps his career with legend status. It’s a no lose situation for him and us. We were desperate anyways. And a street signing doesnt do much anyways.
KJ the screen sniffer
It’s just a game!! Let’s send their a**** to Philly
LFG
Sherman didn’t want the smoke from Lynch haha.
Saw that!
Again!
Homer is a nice little back man.
What’s this? A little bit of life?
I know it wasn’t egregious but why doesn’t Wilson get any calls for those hits when he slides…
All Lockett does…??
Catch TDs!
Honor the traditions
Score TDs and praise god
What a start to this half!
Love the heart of this team – never quit!
What situational awareness by Wilson to know he wasn’t entirely past the LOS. They’re warming up a little bit here.
Dare to dream…?
Need to see something on defense first…. eg a turnover.
And that easy explosive passing play to the FB aint it.
It’s the hope that kills you.
They manufactured that matchup specifically for this type of scenario — regaining the swing back their way. Worked a treat.
How the hell do you let the FB get downfield all by himself?
Shannahan just continues to sh** all over Pete’s Cover 3.
It’s the jimmies and the joes, not the x’s and the o’s.
Bring in more talent in D.
It’s the injuries woes
As we all knows.
Now let’s read some Cat in the Hat. 😉
I hope next year we don’t have to see Kendricks in coverage. We need a true nickel guy
It’s not the same as a TO but stopping SF from converting the 2 point conversion is still a boost. Homer continues to run well. Holister continues to help move the chains.
Nothing against Russell but he’s just not as fast as he was. Yeah I know Bosa is quick, but it’s hard to argue Wilson hasn’t lost a step.
Lol. Bosa has made 2 great plays, but your right. Looks like he’s running in quicksand.
Can we get Lynch a TD please and thank you!
Skittle time
That kind of makes the night watching Lynch score a TD
That made me so happy
Money.
Not going quietly into the night!
All I wanted from this game was a Marshawn TD. I am happy camper no matter the results now.
It’s all been worth it now! Beast Mode!
Now we just need a fortunate turnover on defense.
Don’t look now but it’s a 5 point game with 10 minutes left, Wilson is settling into a rhythm and diagnosing SF defense. If SEA defense can get a stop or hold SF to a FG, there’s a chance.
Defense hasn’t made a big play all game.
If the unit has a big play in it, let’s have it right now guys. We need something, anything. We need a shot.
Some hits and TFLs a few sacks early, but there are some glaring holes, I’d settle for a turnover or a punt
Not an auspicious start to this defensive series
Landed on his feet too.
They haven’t brought him to the ground in a minute
come on D, we need a stop
And right off the first snap, Ansah whiffs completely on an easy stop.
The Niners have more talent and I’d admit they are a better total team. But this ain’t no Rams 2017 game. Seattle keeps fighting.
WTF was that Ziggy?!?
A complete whiff.
Then he gets stoned in the hole
Liability. Offers nothing out there.
The defense just isn’t good enough.
I mean look how easy this is for them in response after our two TD’s.
Defense is crap.. how are the guys so wide open
Embarrassing. They can’t tackle to save themselves.
Shannahan eating Pete’s Cover 3 alive is gonna be the death of him.
Damn. Deebo is so damn good.
Loved him during draft season, was gutted he went to a division rival.
That 3rd down conversion is a dagger
-Edge is a huge need. DE and OLB.
-We cant afford to lose Ifedi.
Give me Kenneth Murray in the first, Everson Griffin reached his sacks clause and can be a free agent. Go ahead sign him up. Speed at the LB is a must
We need an Al Woods run stiffer replacement.
Yep. Can’t draft WR first. If no D help there, trade back or get creative, but the D is the bigger issue. At least that’s what I’d do… even though, as Rob is great as analyzing, they’ll probably go WR.
Weapons sound nice. D wins championships.
Ordinary. Very ordinary.
They are scoring at will – and have all year. We’ve no answer.
Did they even get a hand on him?
Bobby .. who
Front 7 needs an overhaul.
Better edge rush and depth on DL and getting younger at LB is huge. We need a nickel/ big nickel or something. Screw this 3 LB crap.
Bad drafting and picking from FA heap has its affects.
Where is all the youth from drafts.. Poona, Flowers and little bit of Green from last 2 drafts contributing that’s it.
On the offense, Metcalf, Penny some and Homer now
Pack your bags boys… were going to Philadelphia!!!!
Lynch td worth the watch.
D is not good. Hoping for Diggs next week. But offense will have to win games. And not be inconsistent.
If you can’t tackle you can’t win. They seem out of position and ill prepared for the what the 49ers do.
I’m just saying. Seattle has something in Homer. Shoulda been getting the snaps over Prosise.
Lol
I agree. CJ should’ve been gone after last year hes made of glass.
Same wavelength again per usual.
Homer has acquitted himself rather well tonight.
I keep hearing Homer called ‘Palmer.” Just me?
Ahhh f***
Don’t you even dare, football gods…
I see a pattern where once we start doing something well, someone goes down to halt that. Defense, run game, offense.
Just need one eency little stop
DK bay bay! Boom
Sweet catch by DK plucked that right out of the air
Ok one more time. Can this defense make a stop?
Would be a minor miracle at this point. I believe!
Just about!!
This D needs something more than ever right about now
Defense, just one stop or takeaway…is that too much to ask???
Nice tackle by Griffin
This is the game. Get off the field
JFC as it is they needed every one of those 17 yards to make the stop
No mistakes. They can win this
Tell ya what. Win, lose, or draw. This team has been in every game but 2 this year. So impressive when ya think about how banged up they’ve been combined with lack of pass rush.
1000%.
Ton of heart.
A big reason why IMO Pete & John love those guys that’ve battled through some type of adversity. A game ain’t ever too much for them.
+12
That’s the PC culture
It all comes down to this. RW time!
This might be DK’s best game so far.
Yup
2 words: baby aspirin.
2 more words: Portable defibrillator
This is why I can never sleep after Seattle games, it always takes me a good hour to get my heart rate down.
I’m not shhhakiing, you’re shaking…
George Fant has had a nice game. Bosa hasn’t been much of a pass rushing factor.
Dont jinxxx
Perfect play by Homer
Do you guys smell that….
Guys we can win this
Dangerous throw
Heart just skipped a beat
Two plays to score a TD
WTF was that?
Amazing drive fizzled out. Not a big fan of the last few calls. Let’s see what happens on the last try. My heart omg i cant take it
OMG!
Beastmode!
HAS to be
YES!
Ursua what a time to make his first catch in the NFL
Come on Pete. Delay of game w/ :22 left?
Awful
Jesus. Do they practice/prepare for these situations?
That was a PI
That is so close
Holister is clearly down
Pathetic officials. This happens over and over again. I know we had plenty of chances but my god.
Should’ve kicked the FG first half…. just saying lol
Nah. That delay of game cost us.
Well of course it did. So did alot of things. Hypothetically if we got that 3 before half all we would’ve needed is a FG
Why didn’t PC challenge the no pass interference on Hollister?
You can’t its up to the officials…. insane we have this issue in a billion dollar industry
No time out, no challenge.
Not to mention no challenges inside two minutes anyway right?
Dude… it’s under 2 minutes. Can’t challenge.
Devasting loss! Hawks played hard but that delay of game penalty is inexcusable.
Absolutely.
Huge blunder on that delay of game. Gotta wonder. But I’m not even mad. That’s as close as you can get. They clearly aren’t the better team so a win was always improbable.
Pete doesn’t like the one-yard line. /smh
8 attempts in response.. 1 yard line .. 0 points.
We find ways to lose the game as usual
Read as in Red Zone
Find ways to lose? You looked at this team’s record under Carroll?
It sucked to lose but a heck your hyperbole at the door. 🤦🏻♂️
That finger was over the line 😤😤
We didn’t deserve to be in that game, but it came down to an inch. Can’t believe we couldn’t get one yard
Yet again..
On to Philly and a chance to meet up again with the 49ers in the Divisional Round in two weeks. The division crown decided by an inch.
Fitting ending.
The delay of game sucks the most.
The non PI call, or at least booth review, sucks the next most.
Hollister an inch short: bummer, but that’s just football.
Hell of an effort! That’s a team I love and respect t.
FWIW, I think Philly & Green Bay is easier road than Min & NO.
I want Rd 3 of Niners-Hawks in NFC Champ Game!
Fant was late back to the huddle, led to the delay of game.
It’s hard to overstate the opportunity lost by Carroll on that delay of game. Not only would they have won the game and the division, but winning it on that play with Lynch would’ve been so beneficial for everyone. It would’ve put the ghosts of SB49 to rest. What a missed opportunity.
Huge point there. What a storyline that would have been. Oh well.
Wait! What exactly was Carrol supposed to do? Call a time-out?
So we beat Philly next week and then play in SF?
The lowest remaining seed will play the 49ers in two weeks. If…
We win and Vikings lose: Seahawks vs. 49ers
We win and Vikings win: Vikings vs 49ers
MIN vs. NO grudge match sounds good to me…
The Seattle offense woke up… and gave them time to start getting Lynch into the game and the offense. Next week, they should be getting back to themselves.. and start rolling on the road.
Absolutely gutting to come that close, but can’t be too mad at that effort. We’ll most likely get to do round 3 in a couple weeks so long as we can kill of the Eagles
Won ‘t be easy. The stat I saw, was in the last two year, in games the Hawks have played a team twice in a year, they are 7-i the first time and 1-6 the second time. Hard to beat a good team twice in a year, especially when the second game is on their turf.
Another example of sleep walking thru first half of games. So let me see if I have this correct. You can only challenge pass interference if pass interference was called?
No, you can challenge PI non-calls as well. But no coaches challenges at all allowed inside 2 minutes.
Which is kind of a dumb rule since so many games are won or lost in the last 2 minutes. And gain the Hawks can only blame themselves for sleep walking through the first half.
Anyone else screaming for Russ to sneak it after Ursua’s catch instead of spiking it? There was such a mess going on would’ve been a good chance he scored.
I was hoping they do that and catch defense off guard.
commentator hinted at the idea
good thing nfl has p.i. review now….or not. But the Monday apology on how they missed the call will be worth it…or not. Delay of game was inexcusable. Damn glad Lockett is ok, we definitely need Diggs back. So many things you can complain about, but at least we are in the playoffs, niners will have a harder schedule next year and we have a winnable game next week
p.s. and we made it a game in the second half, that I am happy about for sure. It looked like it was going to be a blowout
IE.. refer to Henry Taylor above.
Perfect instance of shooting ourselves in the foot. Ball on the 1/2 yard line, and after stopping the clock, we can’t get a play off before taking a delay of game penalty. This is why Carroll can never be in the same conversation with Belichick.
Hell of a game, I obviously had issues, but I also saw some life in this team that has been missing for a few weeks…also, remember everyone, it’s a “rebuild” year ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Onto Philly where I can only hope the “road warrior” mentality remains. Go Hawks!