Speed on defense & thoughts on Marcus Davenport

UTSA’s Marcus Davenport appears to have freakish athleticism

Here’s a quote from Pete Carroll, speaking to Brock & Salk on 710 ESPN, the day after the Rams hammering:

“It seemed like they were faster than us, and that’s what we like to pride ourselves on, that we play faster than the teams that we play.”

It’s probably something to remember when the off-season begins.

The Seahawks haven’t looked particularly fast on defense this year. Even when healthy, the game against Tennessee sticks in the mind. They had some really tough, physical performances. Early in the year they propped up a stalling offense. They’ve had some clunkers too. And Carroll’s point on speed was an interesting one.

There are exceptions of course. Earl Thomas and Bobby Wagner clearly are very fast for the two positions they play. Overall though?

If the Seahawks do look to make significant changes to the defense in the off-season, raw speed is likely to be at the forefront of their thinking. Carroll stated ‘speed in the front seven’ as a key need before the 2012 draft. They selected Bruce Irvin and Bobby Wagner with their first two picks. Irvin ran a 4.50 at 245lbs and Wagner a 4.45 at 241lbs.

That could be the starting point for a reshaping of the defense. Speed. Whether that’s in the front seven or at defensive back. The Seahawks set out to be bigger, faster and stronger. They might be about to focus on the ‘faster’ part in the 2018 off-season.

On that note, I want to spend today’s piece looking at Marcus Davenport. He’s a small school prospect at UTSA. He received attention from draft writers during the season — with some even including him in first round projections.

Over the years I haven’t written a lot about small school prospects. Tape access is limited. It’s also very difficult to get a feel for their potential playing a lower level of competition.

It really comes down to whether they absolutely dominate at the level. They need to if you’re going to imagine the huge jump to the NFL.

There are quarterback success stories. Carson Wentz is a recent example. Joe Flacco played at Delaware. Tony Romo at Eastern Illinois. Akiem Hicks, the brilliant defensive lineman at Chicago, attended Regina in Canada.

Generally though it seems like small school prospects get talked about a lot but many fail to get anywhere near the level of the names above. Davenport, however, might have a shot.

He will clearly benefit from a pro-weight training regime. He looks like he can actually become more physically impressive — which is saying something considering his size.

Tony Pauline wrote this about Davenport in October:

If your team needs a pass rusher in the offseason, remember the name Marcus Davenport. Entering the year graded as a priority free agent, Davenport has made scouts take notice with his dominant 2017 campaign. Six games into the season he’s recorded 32 tackles, 12 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks and has also broken up four passes. During the weekend victory over Rice, he led UTSA with 11 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and two sacks. Measuring in over 6-foot-5 and 255 pounds, Davenport plays quick, explosive football and makes plays behind the line of scrimmage as well as out in space. Versatility is key and Davenport offers potential as a one-gap defensive end or a 3-4 outside linebacker. I would expect him to receive an invitation to a January All-Star game then attend the combine and eventually end up in the early part of the draft’s final day.

He did receive an invite to the Senior Bowl. He will be a fascinating player to observe in Mobile.

I’m going to go through some clips here. Firstly though, a quick point. Davenport is going to look like peak Jadeveon Clowney in some of these videos. He looks very impressive. He’s an intriguing prospect. So was Margus Hunt at SMU, drafted in the second round in 2013. He measured at 6-8 and 295lbs. His college tape, at times, was ridiculous. He looked like a monster. He’s had a pretty average NFL career though.

That doesn’t mean Davenport faces the same fate. That’s not the point I’m making. It’s merely that sometimes these devastating clips look amazing — but the next level is a giant leap.

Now let’s look at why Davenport is freakishly good:

There are not many defensive ends with Davenport’s size and this level of mobility in space. He chases the ball carrier down like a defensive back and does just enough to force him out of bounds for a huge loss.

The clip lists him at 6-7 and 255lbs. He’s actually 6-5 and 254lbs. You don’t see many draft prospects with that level of mobility and agility at that size.

Here’s another example:

Look at him work to the sideline. The quarterback isn’t the best athlete but Davenport barely breaks into a sweat controlling his movement and delivering a sledgehammer hit.

At times UTSA pretty much used him as a roaming/blitzing linebacker. He doesn’t just work well laterally, his closing burst is exceptional too:

On this evidence you’d expect a great 10-yard split.

One of the plays in the video above shows him lining up at DE and sprinting to cover the running back in the flat. Small school opponent or not — that’s impressive.

How is he as an EDGE rusher? Violent:

Look at his bend for the size, the explosion off the snap, the ability to just overpower blockers and hammer the quarterback. This is where you want to see him dominate. He’s facing inferior blockers. And Davenport takes their lunch money.

Watch him 17 seconds into this video. Not a great idea trying to block him with a running back:

Why not try a double team? In fairness this is a terribly executed double but Davenport just barges his way through, combining power and speed:

Here’s a full game of his snaps against North Texas:

If the Seahawks do set out to get younger and faster on defense, switching the identity of the franchise in the process, I’m not sure they’ll go after a small school D-liner to launch the re-tool. Davenport might be the type of player who needs time to deliver on his athletic potential.

Having said that, let’s see how he gets on at the combine. There’s a lot of potential and a lot to like. Davenport’s mobility and size isn’t common and he can clearly feature in a number of different roles.

If they want bigger, faster, stronger — he could be an option. As noted earlier, size and particularly speed could easily be the focus on defense in the off-season.

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  1. astraeus

    I’m a huge Davenport fan. Looks like a high 2nd round pick with that length/athleticism combo. He reminds me of McDowell at times..

    • DC

      Does he own an ATV?

      • Greg Haugsven

        Thats great humor DC.

      • Hawktalker#1


        Nice response.

    • JimQ

      nfldraftscout has DE-Marcus Davenport listed at 6-056/235, with a projected 4.77/40, so, if correct Davenport is closer to 6′-6″ in height & after watching film, I’d guess, to my eye, he’ll likely run in the 4.6/40 range or better at the combine. Add some muscle and technique to him and watch out. I’m thinking the “new” Avril for TFL’s & SACKS,…..IF, they can or do draft him. A very exciting player, tempered slightly by level of competition.

  2. Sea Mode

    What!? How did I almost miss this feature? Did you guys see this?


    Go, BobbyK!!! Great stuff, man.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Wooooow….. I always knew BobbyK was a swell guy, but that takes some motivation.

      You realize you’re a fan legend now, right?

      • bankhawk

        Kenny Easley is one of the real-real Seahawk legends. But heroes come in all sizes and shapes. And you, BobbyK, are one too!
        Nice link, Seamode-I hadnt seen that yet either, though I knew some of the backstory (pauses to wipe away a tear). Thank you ând Happy Holidays!

    • C-Dog

      Wow. When I saw that originally, I didn’t make that connection. This. Is. Awesome.

      • Greg Haugsven

        Thanks for posting that a second time Sea Mode. For any of you who haven’t watched the link that Sea Mode put on here, you need to watch it. It came from one of our brothers in this room so it needs to be viewed. #LOB

        • Greg Haugsven

          Rob, I even think this deserves it’s own post.

          • Rob Staton

            If the video is on Youtube I will do it — so everyone can appreciate BobbyK’s efforts.

            I’ll also re-post here what I said in the other thread…

            BobbyK — you’re a credit to Seahawks fans. That was really emotional seeing Kenny Easley thanking you in his speech. Great job on the way you worked to make this happen. Way to go.

            • Greg Haugsven

              That would be neat!

            • BobbyK

              Thank you. But it’s me who appreciates you, Rob (and other respectful people who post here regularly), and what you’ve done for this blog.

              After TNT stopped, as we knew it, many of us were lurking for a great place for Seahawks news. Although I don’t always check during the season, I appreciate the culture you have created and fantastic Seahawks content.

              Thanks for the kinds words… Sea Mode, Kenny Sloth (loved your pre-draft stuff last year), bankhawk, C-Dog, and Greg Haugsven (those of you listed above). I appreciate it.

            • Sea Mode

              Rob, here’s the link to the BobbyK/Easley story on YouTube:

              I was also thinking maybe more than its own post, it might be a great way to finish off your instant reaction take tonight, win or lose (especially if we lose). It’s so perfect for the present moment of the franchise, as we are facing possibly having to move on from some stars we have come to know and love over the past several years. A reminder that beyond the players, these guys are some great people we have been blessed to root for and we should cherish the bond we’ve formed with them as fans, even if they do end up having to move on. (Even Easley was traded to the Cardinals in the end…)

              BobbyK, I didn’t say it earlier as I was just so excited to share the link with everybody, but getting to see and share some of the emotions in that video really made my day, so thank you again. (I will play tough guy and not comment on whether or not I might or might not have started to tear up a bit when he talked about how he happened to send that autograph just to you though he usually never did that for anyone or as he mentioned you in his speech…) I’m also so glad you finally got to meet each other!

              Anyway, that was something truly special. Merry Christmas, SDB!

    • Trevor

      Awesome stuff BobbyK! Easley is my all time favourite Hawk and that was awesome.

      • BobbyK

        Thank you, Trevor. It’s humbling. Almost to the point of being embarrassed.

        • Greg Haugsven

          You should never be embarrassed by that, you should be proud. Im proud that I even get to spend time talking with you on here about it. To care that much is pretty special and you were never looking for anything in return except for your favorite player to get into the Hall, which he did.

          • C-Dog


        • dingbatman

          Wow! Way to go BobbyK!!!!

  3. Greg Haugsven

    In a way he kind of reminds me of Danielle Hunter. Quick but raw. The small amount of footage I saw he seemed a little like he was lumbering. Maybe that was just a small sample size.

    • Trevor

      I thought the same thing Greg. Hunter seemed a little thicker and not as loose in the hips. Based on these clips Davenport looks incredibly athletic with good bend and mobility. I think his combine will be sick! If

      • BobbyK

        Hey Greg/Trevor, I wrote the below about Danielle Hunter prior to the ’15 Draft. I never thought he was quick, but knew he was raw/powerful and would be great in the right system… but part of the reason was his “read and react” style… I loved Hunter (more than Clark, actually), but liked both.


        It’s almost like our TJ Watt stuff last year (how some of us said he’d be a top 5-10 pick in the 2018 Draft because he checked all of the boxes such as work ethic, testing, production, etc.). Yet he was passed over by other teams. But it’s only because NFL owners are too stupid to have long term visions (which is surprising given they are as rich as they are) because they screw current GMs over with the “win now” mandate, even though it’d be easy to win in the NFL with a 3-4 year vision.

        • Greg Haugsven

          I remember really liking Danielle Hunter and mocked him myself to the Seahawks. You just never know with those really raw guys which way they will go.

          • BobbyK

            I agree. Neither do NFL GMs or they would have taken Watt much earlier last year.

  4. Greg Haugsven

    Off topic today.

    Rashaad Penny
    14 carries for 221 yards and 4 touchdowns. It was against Army but that is still ballin.

    • Greg Haugsven

      Army’s box score today:

      1/4 passing for 6 yards
      87 carries for 440 yards

      • Greg Haugsven

        San Diego St ran 30 offensive plays, Army ran 91…TOP 46 to 14

    • C-Dog

      He was really fun to watch. I’m buying Penny more now.

      Crazy game. Army’s time of possession was ridiculous. After the game, their HC basically said the game plan was to not let Penny get enough time to continue scoring.

    • JimQ

      Perhaps even more impressive are his rushing stats for his last 5 games of his college career.
      253-yds & 2-TD’s,
      234-yds & 3-TD’s,
      222-yds & 2-TD’s,
      203-yds & 2-TD’s,
      & now 221-yds & 4-TD’s in this bowl game.
      For —-> a 5-game total of 1133-yds & 13-TD’s, that would be a full season total for a lot of RB’s. And, yes I get the level of competition and type of system angles, but, consider, they know he’s the focal point of the offense and yet, they can’t seem to slow him down much, even though they know he’s coming at them. Decent speed for his size too. Bradshaw didn’t look too bad as a possible RB conversion/wildcat project, but with a pending Army service obligation he would be a ?.

      • LeoSharp

        I think he showed he was better than the system last year when Donnel Pumphrey was on the team. Pumphrey broke the FBS rushing record with a 6.1 YPC while Penny was at 7.5YPC as his backup. This year he has dipped to 7.4 YPC while being the starter.

      • Greg Haugsven

        That’s a full seasons worth.

        • peter

          I’m not worried about penny with regards to competition. I’m a little worried about mileage.

          what I think people should take in mind is a huge difference between sdsu and seattle. they carry three fb’s on their roster and just briefly looking at sdsu vs. Stanford per example is that sdsu leads penny with a blocking fb on the first 4 of 5 of his carries.

          first I want to say. I think seattle needs a fullback. second in regards to the hand wringing about Alex Collins I think penny may not work here for the same reason. not because he sucks because he’s actually really good. but sdsu like Arkansas don’t run a fullback-less zone scheme.

          now that said I love penny and is like to see,seattle use a fullback and also line up and block. I know the zbs is very very deadly if you find a one cut runner. and it’s great in spurts as itself. but the league is going away from cut blocks. brown , Britt, ifedi, and even Pocic look like they coukd,all maul and engage straight on or basically straight on.

    • Trevor

      That is a pretty is YPC I don’t care who it is against.

  5. Sea Mode

    From what I’ve seen so far, Davenport, Edmunds, or Evans would all be great picks and bring a boost in speed to the defense. It’s awesome that the more perhaps equal options you have, the easier it is to trade down knowing at least one of them should still be on the board later.

    We’ve seen the clips of these guys on the field, but who are they off the field is our next step. Anyone have any insight so far?

    Also, we are talking about getting younger on defense and recovering some draft capital. What do you guys think about KJ Wright’s $8.2m cap hit for 2018? Could we get a R4 or R5 for him and replace him with one of the guys listed above (probably more Edmunds or Evans for that position)? He will turn 29 before next season starts.

    • Greg Haugsven

      Moving on from KJ is something that doesn’t get talked about much. For me I would love to draft a young speedy LB to play the SAM in 2018 and have him move to WILL after KJ’s contract expires. Can’t keep giving people 3rd contracts. So far Bennett and Chancellor have. Besides maybe Earl I don’t see another one. At least that’s my 2 cents.

      • Greg Haugsven

        It will be interesting on how they move on from the big 6 defensive old guys ( Bennett, Chancellor, Wright, Thomas, Sherman, and Avril. Is it done all at one time? Spread out over 2018 and 2019? Maybe you keep 1 or 2 of them…Thomas and maybe Sherman?

  6. Sea Mode

    Hey, Greg, about what you mentioned in the other thread about Kam:

    If the Seahawks did trade him like you said we would still owe $7.5 million in dead money so the net would only be $2.3 million instead of $9.8

    Why do you say that? That would happen if he were cut. But if he gets traded, wouldn’t the new team take on his full contract?

    • Greg Haugsven

      Just the salary portion ($9.8 million) the $7.5 in dead money would be his remaining pro ration of his signing bonus.(3 years at $2.5 million each year)

      • Greg Haugsven

        So his new team would owe him $9.8 million in salary and we would owe $7.5 million from his signing bonus (just cap space money) which would net us $2.3 million in cap space.

      • Trevor

        Great explanation Greg. Based on his contract hard to imagine why Kam would retire and not just force the Hawks to cut him if he can’t play.

        I think Kam is likely going to play next year and mentor some of the young guys or he and the Hawks work out some sort of deal for him to retire which minimizes the cap hit while ensuing he gets his $. I really dont see him playing anywhere else.

        • Greg Haugsven

          Working out something does seem like an option. From what I understand the physical he takes (either at the end of the season or at the beginning of next season, training camp) is very important. If he fails it, that’s when the $12 million injury guarantee becomes a problem. If he passes it then they could release him without having to pay that $12 million or maybe he just plays. If he passes it I could also just see him retiring right then. This one will be interesting to follow for sure.

  7. Kenny Sloth

    Jim Thorpe ended the 1919 (pre)NFL championship for the Canton Bulldogs with a 95 yard punt from his own 5.

    He played professional football, basketball, and baseball after winning two gold medals amid a flurry of racism

    He also won an intercollegiate ballroom dancing championship and once told Pop Warner “No-One is gonna tackle Jim”

    He died a broke, lonely drunk. After playing until he was 41

    • Kenny Sloth

      Oh that was supposed to be about special teams not Jim Thorpe…

  8. Greg Haugsven

    Hey Rob, off topic. What’s the buzz out there about what Manchester City is doing? Won 18 out of 19 games and are starting to run away with the EPL.

    • Pickering

      Man. City’s owner’s petrol pounds paying off by buying the best footballers.

      • Sea Mode

        Man Utd. has spent about as much on players and a big-name coach, and has little to show for it, so I do give Pep and Man City credit.

        P.S. Thank goodness for the NFL salary cap.

        P.P.S. And how about my Barça’s victory over Real Madrid! I’m just gonna leave this here for anyone who likes soccer (football):

    • EP

      Would normally despise Man City for their success as they have “bought it” but the way they are playing is just impossible to criticise. Completely dominant. Unsure if we’ll see them go unbeaten however. Don’t know if any of you guys follow Scottish football, but Celtic lost last week for the first time in 69 domestic games. It’s been the best time for the team as long as I’ve been alive and I don’t see it being replicated ever again. Argument is that the league up here lacks any real quality but I beg to differ.

  9. Greg Haugsven

    What do you guys think they will do with Sherman?

    We have Griffin, Coleman is an RFA, Shead is now an RFA since he didn’t play 6 games this year. Thorpe and Elliot are under contract. Do we look to trade or just let him play out his deal?

    • Trevor

      I think if he is healthy they extend Sherm. I don’t think he has much trade value coming off the Achilles and the way he plays I think will age better than most.

      I would put the odds on either Sherm or Earl getting traded at over 80% and Earl likely has far greater trade value. Unless JS really does plan to go full rebuild then both could be gone. A 1st for Earl and 3rd for Sherm is likely the best you could hope for. Plus the 30+ mil in cap space.

      2018 Secondary
      CB: Griffin, Elliott, Shead, Coleman, Thorpe or Rookie
      Safety: Mcdougald, Chancellor, Hill, Thompson or Rookie

      • Greg Haugsven

        To see the whole LOB leave all at the same time would suck. We could trade them both and get that 1st and 3rd you are talking about and resign McDougal to replace Thomas. Two firsts and a third could maybe be turned into a one first, a second and 2 thirds. So many possibilities I almost wish it was the off-season already.

    • C-Dog

      The Silver article made is sound kinda slim that he sticks around. Personally, I like hanging onto him for another year, but I’m not holding my breath. If they are looking to free up cap, I think he’s a likely goner.

    • Chris

      I would expect Thorpe to be cut. Decent savings if we do.

  10. Trevor

    What are your thoughts on Ziggy Anzah as a potential replacement for Avril? Also if they decide not to keep Sheldon or Jimmy could they make a run at Demarcus Lawrence?

    • Greg Haugsven

      I would bet those two could get really expensive. Not sure I want any part of that. I personally want to get younger and cheaper on defense. With that you dont get cheaper but you do get a little younger. From the Lawrence perspective I wonder what the Cowboys might do. They have Lawrence up and Zach Martin. Maybe they think they need to keep Lawrence and let Martin walk. If so do we go for Martin? Thats big coin but if we just let Richardson walk it would basically be the same money to sign Martin. I would rather have the stud guard at that point. Probably unlikely but possible.

      • Trevor

        If I have the choice of Martin or Lawerence I take Martin all day.

  11. Greg Haugsven

    Also Green Bays offense is absolutely horrendous!

    • H

      And we need them to beat the Lions next week. We can feel a little hard done by that we were one of the few teams that had to deal with ARod this year

  12. drewdawg11

    The kid is super raw. I don’t think he’s a first, but I wouldn’t bet against him being a second round pick. If we end up trading down a bit from 18-20 and retain a first round pick, I wouldn’t object to getting a guy like this and add him to the young nucleus of Clark, possibly Sheldon, Griffin, etc.

  13. Kenny Sloth

    Crazy how we don’t control our destiny. Im a Saints fan this week!!

    • Greg Haugsven

      Saints fan this week and a Panthers fan next week. The Falcons have the best chance to go 0-2 from the South teams.

  14. Greg Haugsven

    What do you think the Seahawks will do with the 6 aging stars on Defense?
    Bennett, Chancellor, Avril, Wright, Sherman, and Thomas.
    Your 5 options are, Release, Retire, Trade, Extend, and play out the year.

    Avril…Play or Retire
    Thomas…Extend or Trade
    Chancellor…Release, Retire or Play

    • peter

      It’s hard to say until after tomorrow. I’m still on the fence about whether its a few small tweaks or a complete reboot.

      If it’s a reboot:

      Bennett: Trade 4th rounder?

      Avril: Retire

      Wright: Play

      Sherman: Start the year on the PUP

      Thomas: Trade

      Chancellor: Retire

      In this I don’t like trading away Earl or Bennett but I’m of the mind to pull the band-aid off at one time. Get what the team can get now because is Avril retires, Kam retires, and Sherman can’t play right away anyways having Earl and a brand new backfield while there is a diminished pass rush won’t do him any good.

      • Michigan 12th

        A 4th for Bennet pass on that, He is worth much more than we will get in return. In my humble opinion

        • peter

          maybe. but 6.5 sacks, offside penalties are up. injury and age catches everyone. plus without the presence of avril his production has gone down.

          this scenario is the total rebuild rather than the slow unraveling that us happening now.

    • lil'stink

      Bennett — play

      Avril — Retire or release 🙁

      Wright — Play

      Sherman — Play. Possibly extend if fully recovered, but I could also see Sherm wanting 8 figures APY if he’s healthy

      Thomas — Trade. Can’t believe I’m saying that

      Chancellor — Play or release.

      You forgot to put Russell Wilson’s name on that list. I think the only player on this team I consider more or less untouchable is Bobby Wagner.

      I know it’s heresy, and it’s not something I speak of lightly, but there are scenarios where I would consider trading Russell Wilson.

      • Dylanlep

        Yeah I’m not in the camp that says trade Russell Wilson, he’s far from the problem. However … I would never say he’s off limits if some team was willing to give an insane amount of compensation for him. The Browns have five picks in the first two rounds including two in the top five. If they gave three of this five and I could use those to get mayfield and Barkley and the third to get a young defender I would have to consider it.

        • Lil'stink

          I would take the lower of the two first rounders that Cleveland has and Shon Coleman. Then trade a day 3 pick for Alex Smith, and find a QB to try and develop the next few years.

  15. drewdawg11

    I honestly don’t see what Bennett is bringing to this team this season. Low production, stupid penalties, a bit of a lightning rod for negative attention. If he was still kicking butt on the field maybe you tolerate it. The only time he gets into the opposing backfield these days is when he jumps off sides. I would take a pick for him but his cap savings won’t be useful until next year. I don’t know how they cut Sherman.

    • Old but Slow

      Different eyes see different things. Bennett did not put up sack numbers, but he applied pressure. He was better early but then got dinged a bit that limited him in the last few games. But, he is also a leader and mentor of this position group, and some of them are quite young. He has a wide variety of moves that he can pass on, and will still be able to show them off.

    • Ed


    • H

      He did get 6.5 sacks in the first 8 games this year but his production has stalled. Could this be because of injury?

      • Ralphy

        I think its because so many DL are injured and he’s not getting rotated out like he used to.

    • C-Dog

      With a healthy foot, solid veteran leadership and production. If Seattle is going young, especially on the DL, with Naz taking over for Sheldon and hopefully bringing Malik along, I think it would be wise to hang onto Bennett for one more season. He’s not that expensive.

  16. Ground_Hawk

    Wishlist Mock draft w/ Seahawks trading down from the 1st, and ending up having two 2nd round picks:

    1. R2: RB Harris ALA
    2. R2: RB Penny SDSU
    3. R4: DE Mata’afa WSU
    4. R5: DE Boesen TCU
    5. R5: TE Baugh OSU
    6. R5: P Dickson TEX
    7. R7: FB Hill Michigan
    8. R7: LB Nwosu USC
    9. R7: DT Senat USF

    • peter

      I can see a lot of great things about that list!

      • Greg Haugsven

        Where does the 3rd rounder come ftom? I would rather substitute one of the RB’s for a defensive player.

        • Ground_Hawk

          They don’t have a 3rd round pick in this mock. Instead of Penny, I wouldn’t mind LB Josey Jewel, or DE/LB Marquis Haynes.

    • Donald

      How many teams have two 2nd rd picks to give for a 1st rd pick? I would love two 2nd rd picks, but most likely a 2nd and 3rd I think.

      • Ground_Hawk

        Cleveland: #33 and the late-2nd rd. pick they have from Philly.

    • Jacob M

      Why would you pick 2 RBs in one one round? And what about a need for G or LB?

      • Ground_Hawk

        Draft both of those RB’s and Seattle’s running game improves. I’m not opposed to drafting multiple LB’s, but the Nwosu pick adds depth there.

    • Hawktalker#1

      Please explain how you arrived at the Seahawks having each of those round pics (not the selections, just the picis)

      • Ground_Hawk


        They list future picks that the teams have after their dealings.

        Seattle trades their 1st round pick to Cleveland, for Cleveland’s natural 2nd rounder as well as the 2nd round pick that Philly traded them, so Seattle would have two 2nd round picks, and Cleveland would pick three times in the top-20.

  17. Ralphy

    Love those videos! I personally have thought the biggest problem for the Hawks has been the lack of a rotation on the D line. When Reed and Jones have been injured and the same four are in on every snap, you see them get winded and stop getting pressure. In 2013 they aways looked fresh. They have to get deep again on the DL.

    I think Sheldon Richardson will be their priority in the offseason and drafting for the front seven will be where we see them go with their first pick.

    • Greg Haugsven

      I agree but they still have to do better at getting a rotation. Bennett plays 85% of the snaps no matter who is available and that’s too many.

  18. Stephen Pitell

    Dang, that opposing QB is accurate and fearless. Davenport was pretty good.

  19. Millhouse-serbia

    Gus is on one year contract with JAX. New, old, DC?

    • Millhouse-serbia

      LAC not JAX.

      • Greg Haugsven

        I doubt they move on from Richard.

    • Volume12

      Mike Pettine

  20. Michigan 12th

    Did the Seahawks trade for Brown because he was available, or did they trade for Brown because he fits a ZBS? I wonder because if they traded for Brown because he fits their ZBS then that is telling they will keep Cable on I think. What are your thoughts?

  21. BobbyK

    I hope everyone has a great day today, tomorrow, and a Happy New Years, too!

    • Greg Haugsven

      And you as well!

    • Kenny Sloth

      Happy Days, indeed SDB.

      Lets go Saints

    • Volume12

      You too my man. Excellent work on that Kenny Easley stuff BTW.

  22. Greg Haugsven

    What do people know about Tegray Scales, LB from Indiana?

    • Kenny Sloth

      Patient, heady player. Long if somewhat stocky.

      Extremely stiff and not very explosive on film, but intelligent and reactive

      • Sea Mode

        My thoughts exactly. V12 likes him though I think. Remember him once calling Scales the “new NFL prototype” or something along those lines. So I would be interested to know what he sees or saw in him.

  23. Kenny Sloth

    Anybody else notice how little space Penny creates when his fullback (15) isnt playing?

    The guy has lots of upside, but I’m not sure if he reads the game fast enough to be a feature back yet

    • Volume12

      His FB is kinda the standout ain’t he?

      Are me and you the only ones that like ‘Rolls Royce?’

      • Kenny Sloth

        That whole scheme is so wide open for the HB. Tyler Ervin ran for 1600 yards there.

        The OL gets consistent push and he kind of clunkily follows his full back for 5 at a time.

        He can bang it inside and I want to see his bowl game, but his learning curve is incredibly steep imo

    • Volume12

      How about the fact Army ran the ball like 55 times, threw it once, and won? Good damn that is hot!

      • Kenny Sloth

        Same as all year.

        Rewatched some Kerryon Johnson and by gawd is he classy.

        Efficient footwork and uses his vision to create, I somewhat worry about his ability to stay healthy at the next level, but if he can do that, I see nothing stopping him from being a premier lead back.

        Rob was dead on about Guice. He’s not the fastest. He’s decisive and violent but he gets chased down from behind which is a huge negative indicator in my opinion.

        Pete wants a big and also explosive tester at tailback. The combine will be so informative at the position. I want to get back into other positions since we’ve focused so much on LB and RB on the blog lately.

  24. Volume12

    I thought Jared Goff was a bad QB?

    • white-salmon-hawk

      Easy to look good when all you have to do is dump the screen to gurley.

      • Volume12

        Hmmmm…. Sounds a lot like what RW did his 1st couple years with Beastmode.

        • vrtkolman

          Gurley for MVP IMO.

        • Del tre

          Not at all, this offense still rarely utilizes screens. Russell still accounted for a significant portion of our offensive yard rushing and passing in 2012, he was essential to the offense, Colin Kaepernick, Nick Foles and several other back up QBs would have better numbers in Goffs checkdown system. Just because Russell proved people wrong doesnt mean Goff is going to, pretty bad argument, especially because stylistically they are entirely different, and because the reasons for the criticisms of Russell were mostly height related. If we had Sean McVay running our offense we’d probably top 5 in offense, instead we have bonehead Bevell, who’s job will forever be secure because mediocrity is good enough.
          I still see Goff routinely miss 5 yard passes to wide open receivers on rollouts, he’s like Alex Smith or Sam Bradford, a game manager who can make some good throws, not a top 5 QB and probably never will be.

          • Volume12

            Wasn’t Seattle one of the topoe offenses with Lynch or was that a fantasy?

            And you literally took the ‘sounds a lot like Russ with Lynch’ to mean screen passes?

  25. Greg Haugsven

    Stars could all be aligning for us.


    If it stays this way we control our own destiny.

    • Ed

      2 of 3 happened and Titans have a chance to upset Rams. Not sure Hawks will win today anyways. They have to bring it.

  26. vrtkolman

    Mariota has had an awful season.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Shame because he’s got one of the cleanest touches in the league.

      I remember FO talking about creative vs task-oriented managers and he, like wilson, is such an exciting blend of the two styles.

  27. Sea Mode

    Lions and Falcons lose! So you’re saying there’s a chance…? 🙂

    Let’s take care of business today and hope the Panthers beat the Falcons next week!

  28. Kenny Sloth

    This kind of looks like Seahawks football

  29. vrtkolman

    Our game plan today is basically me playing Madden on PlayStation.

  30. Greg Haugsven

    Damn Wilson make some horrible decisions sometimes.

    • vrtkolman

      He can’t keep bailing on these timing routes, he just can’t. Can’t run an offense with a QB who only looks for the big play.

    • Volume12

      I’m starting to think he HAS to scramble for passing lanes.

  31. Volume12

    Lockett was wide a** open

  32. drewdawg11

    Can the organization just be honest about their offensive staff? We can’t start a game quickly to save our lives. There is zero plan or intelligent game plan, anyway. Clean house and I’ve The is QB a ya desire before he’s past his prime. We don’t run the ball, we don’t protect, we don’t employ complex route combinations or even set plays up. Too many slow starts. Get rid of these guys.

    • vrtkolman

      QB is a big part of the problem right now.

      • drewdawg11

        Lol! What are you talking about? He’s one of the few things we have in this team.

  33. vrtkolman

    There you are Maxy!

  34. Volume12

    Is this a catch or not? Does anyone know anymore? Do the players even know?

  35. Volume12

    How are Seahawk scouts so good at evaluating talent at RB and finding them everywhere, but the FO is so bad at keeping some of that talent (Ware, Collins, Smith)?

    • vrtkolman

      Smith and Ware were simply victims of the historically deep 2013 roster. Ware getting a DUI didn’t help.

      • Volume12

        Wasn’t Smith part of the ’15 UDFA class?

        Felt like they gave up on Ware DUI or not and kept C-Mike because of athleticism and being a higher selection.

        • vrtkolman

          You are right, who else am I thinking of from 2013?

          • vrtkolman

            Oh yeah, not a RB but Ron Parker. That one really hurts.

            • Volume12

              ‘The one that got away’ said JS. Your right. That one still stings.

  36. Greg Haugsven

    Some signs of a heartbeat.

  37. Volume12

    What is this garbage rule?

  38. Greg Haugsven

    We have 2 net passing yards…solid.

    • Volume12

      Which one goes? Bevell or Cable? I don’t think both return. There’s no way this team can see what’s going on inside their own division and remain complacent.

      The scary thing is, it probably won’t take much for this team to get back to like 12-4, but at the same time, it won’t take much for them to regress back to like 6-10.

      • vrtkolman

        49ers are going to be scary next year with over $100 million in cap room. They have no big free agents coming up either. Fortunately I think they won enough games to miss out on Barkley, but it doesn’t matter because Shanahan is a genius.

        • Rowdy

          Their QB is and looks to be franchise. That would leave a measly 75 mil

      • Dylanlep

        Could it be both? Probably not.

        • Volume12

          Could, buy doubtful. I got a feeling they’ll change one of Bevell, Cable, or maybe Richard.

          • Dylanlep

            Okay fire bevell. Wtf was that call on third down?

            • Volume12

              I can’t answer that. Left me scratching my head as well.

  39. vrtkolman

    I think we have negative net punting yards now.

    • vrtkolman

      Passing *

  40. Volume12

    J-Cole! And with an amazing TD celebration to cap it off.

    • Volume12

      Keep this man. He’s WT3 all over again.

      • Greg Haugsven

        Easy decision..should cost us about $2 million next year as he is an RFA.

      • Trevor

        Best slot Corner we have had in the PC era. Plays smart and tough. A must resign!

        • Tien

          And to think we got him from the Patriots for only a 5th round pick!

  41. vrtkolman

    That was a terrible call.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Agreed- refs really gave that one to Dallas. Against Coleman who just scored a touchdown.

  42. Volume12

    How is that not on Beasley!?

    • Greg Haugsven

      PI is such a disaster. The DB almost has no chance out there.

      • Rowdy

        Not to mention their dbs have been all over are receivers

  43. Rowdy

    horrible call

  44. Volume12

    Is ET not out there?

  45. vrtkolman

    Shaq is a beast, looks like Dak has no idea when the corner blitz is coming.

    • Volume12

      We got 2 young studs at CB. Hopefully they got one more in the pipeline or they draft one more.

      • Trevor

        I think they had high hopes for Elliott prior to his off season injury

  46. Volume12


  47. Volume12

    LMAO. Did ya’ll hear Troy Aikman acting all disgusted over Coleman’s TD celebration? My man is a turd.

    • Del tre

      Yet he loved it when Zeke did it, ooooof course.

  48. Greg Haugsven

    I really thin that Graham is invisible in between the red zones. I just can’t see him coming back.

    • Volume12

      Me either. TE is a big need bro.

    • vrtkolman

      They still use him to block when he’s on the line.

  49. Greg Haugsven

    Are you fucking kidding me with that run call

  50. Greg Haugsven

    The offense is still a circus

    • Dylanlep

      Need to clean house

  51. Volume12

    3rd & 3 you can call any play in your arsenal and they run it up the gut? Inspiring.

  52. vrtkolman

    Wagner isn’t close to 100% but he’s alot better than he was last week.

  53. vrtkolman

    And Bennett looks about 70 years old.

    • vrtkolman

      I said it earlier this year, Bennett can’t play 80% of the snaps each game if you want him effective come playoff time.

    • Volume12

      Yeah he’s got plantar fasciitis.

  54. Volume12

    Yezzir! KJ!

    • vrtkolman


  55. AlaskaHawk

    I started watching in the second half . What really strikes me is how well the younger defensive guys are playing and how poorly the offense is playing. Davis is playing hard.

    Just looking at the stats- Carroll should be in Charge of the defense only. He is great at defensive picks and training. On the offensive side I would fire Bevel and Cable and start rebuilding with new offensive coaches and players at key positions.

    That would mean a new head coach – but at this point it is just too big a job for PC, and his skills are on the defensive side. Plus I don’t think he’s capable of firing his staff.

  56. Greg Haugsven

    Holy shit, a completion

  57. Volume12

    Shut up Troy. That ain’t a hold.

  58. Greg Haugsven

    It’s almost like Graham is only in the game once they get near the goal line.

  59. Volume12

    Why did it take 2 face masks for a flag to get thrown?

    • Volume12

      Baldwin just broke Awuzie the f*** off!

  60. Greg Haugsven

    Man, only in Tampa could have won that game against the Panthers.

  61. Greg Haugsven

    Any longer g pass down the sidelines is automatic PI

  62. vrtkolman

    Again wtf is Maxwell supposed to do . He turned his head around!

    • Greg Haugsven

      That’s what I’m saying. PI is such BS.

    • SeaHusky

      Even before he turned his head around, he was barely touching the receiver, if at all. The flag was absolutely only thrown because of the crowd reaction. Maxie didn’t interfere with him at all.

  63. Greg Haugsven


  64. vrtkolman

    Love the scene of Jerry getting up out of his seat and leaving after the missed field goal. LOL

  65. Volume12

    I love Sherm.

    And I quote, ‘Buck & Aikman sound like disappointed fans. Be objective.’

    They mad bro?

  66. Trevor

    That Dallas OL is just awful without Tyron Smith. I guess that is why elite LT make the big $. Whitworth has had the same impact with the Rams.

  67. Trevor

    I think all the trash by Zeke really fired up our D. They are playing with so much more fire today.

    Really think Griffin, Coleman and Mcdougald make up a nice core of the secondary going forward. If they decide to bring back Sherm and Earl they could be real good next year!

    • AlaskaHawk

      Agreed – young players showing a lot of energy.

  68. drewdawg11

    Weird that they can’t figure out that their offensive line can’t maintain blocks on a stretch play, especially when they are stacking the line. We lost yards on back to back running plays. Ouch.

  69. Kenny Sloth

    Finally. We OUTHIT another team. And now it looks like a sure win with a signature hit from KJ on Elliot

  70. Volume12

    When did Seahawks twitter turn into trolls and start disliking Russ? This ain’t our best season and Seattle has work to do this off-seaso, but come on man. It ain’t that bad.

    • Volume12

      Someone should tell them that Russ led the league in TD passes without a run game and running for life every other game.

  71. Volume12

    Are they rally gonna call an offisides on Bennett? That’s trash.

  72. Volume12

    Whooo! Ball never lies.

  73. AlaskaHawk

    Nice to see another team with field goal problems!

  74. AlaskaHawk

    Yee haw! One more week of nail biting action!

  75. Volume12

    Even though Carolina already clinched, they’re gonna want to play the starters. If they do and NO loses, they’ll win the division and get the 1st round home game.

    • Volume12

      * if they win

  76. Trevor

    Not too often you win a game with 136 yds on offense but I will take it!

    • Volume12

      Like you said, that was the Seahawks D we’re used to seeing and a PC type of game if there ever was one.

  77. Forrest

    Ayyyy, 9, likely 10 wins this season. Go Hawks!! However, I still stand by my hope of the Hawks missing the playoffs. They’re too injured, and I don’t think they can beat any of the playoff teams ( maybe the Eagles) in their current condition. They need a good long off-season to rehab, retool, and revise everything from the playbook to philosophy. Shake some things up, focus on building up the offense, and trim the ageing defensive fat.

  78. drewdawg11

    Softy tweets a picture of Earl Thomas going to the cowboys locker room and basically telling Jason Garrett to come and “get him” in the offseason. 😐
    I realize that we may retool our roster, and he IS a Texas boy… but that would suck so much. He is one of our few trade chips that could fetch some picks. I would say “give us a first and that’s the starting point.”

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