Quinn Meinerz ticks a lot of boxes but might not be available for Seattle
Introduction
The Seahawks have only three picks this year but it’s arguably never been more important that they hit on the ones they have.
With no left or right tackle, cornerback, free safety, center or starting tight end contracted for 2022, some answers need to be found.
The Seahawks have $46,571,756 in projected cap space next year following Tyler Lockett’s extension. If Jamal Adams is also retained, that number will shrink further.
With only 30 players currently signed and several key starters out of contract, there needs to be some forward planning.
They also have short term concerns too. They haven’t added a receiver in free agency or replaced Bruce Irvin and KJ Wright. They could use further competition at center and cornerback.
There’s a lot of work to do.
Barring a major trade between now and the end of the month, they will go into the draft with an unprecedented lack of stock.
Warren Sharpe recently pointed out how unusual their situation is:
“They have less draft capital than ANY team in ANY year since at least 1999… the year the Saints traded EVERY PICK for the #5 pick (RB Ricky Williams) and they still had more capital to work with than Seattle has in 2021.”
Without adding picks, a trade down from #56 seems inevitable. The chances are the Seahawks won’t make a pick in the first two rounds.
It’s barely believable but here we are.
Thoughts on the draft class
The one positive is this does appear to be a deep draft. The options in round three will be attractive. I think people will be surprised at some of the names that’ll be available on day three.
The thing is — you could take even more advantage of that with more picks. So good value in the middle rounds still isn’t really a justification for putting yourself in a position with so little stock.
Nevertheless, I think the Seahawks have followed a familiar path this year.
They’ve often identified the strength of a class, then tailored their free agency period around fixing other areas.
This is not a strong year for defensive linemen. So it’s no surprise that the Seahawks have addressed this area by re-signing Carlos Dunlap and Benson Mayowa, adding Kerry Hyder and then signing Al Woods to replace Jarran Reed.
Equally, there are limited options at running back. Thus, Chris Carson returns. It’s an appalling tight end class. They added Gerald Everett.
The three deepest positions are arguably receiver, cornerback and O-line. I’m posting my horizontal board below because it breaks down the depth at each position:
Essentially they’ve set the table to tap into the strong areas of the class.
Possible Seahawks targets
In some instances I have left players out of this piece because I see no realistic prospect of them reaching the Seahawks. This includes, for example, Landon Dickerson, Teven Jenkins, Elijah Moore, Jamin Davis, Najee Harris, Josh Myers and Travis Etienne.
There are also players who haven’t tested or even measured who I also haven’t included.
I’ve compiled this list based on trends over the course of the last 11 years of Pete Carroll and John Schneider’s tenure.
Offensive line
There are several things to consider here.
Firstly, arm length. The Seahawks appear to have only drafted one player with sub-33 inch arms in the Carroll era. That was Joey Hunt, a sixth round center.
In the case of offensive tackles, they’ve often sought great length in the 35 inch range (Russell Okung, Germain Ifedi).
Jim Nagy also noted recently on Twitter that hand-size is seen as more important than arm length at center. That could justify the Hunt pick, albeit in the later rounds. He had short arms (30 inches) but big hands (10 inches).
For that reason, I’m including center prospects with sub-33 inch arms but +10 inch hands.
Explosive traits are also clearly something the Seahawks focus on, as noted in our recent TEF breakdown of the O-line class. I would recommend checking that article out but just to reiterate — this is without a doubt the most explosive O-line group we’ve seen in years.
Offensive tackles
D’Ante Smith (East Carolina)
Smith ticks all of the key boxes for Seattle. He has 35 inch arms, he scored a 2.97 in TEF and he excelled at the Senior Bowl, showing great intensity and attitude. I interviewed him shortly after his week in Mobile and he has the kind of personality that is easy to warm to. Despite some buzz around the Senior Bowl, the hype seems to have plateaued since. Keep an eye on Smith. As one for the future, he’s right in their wheelhouse.
Spencer Brown (Northern Iowa)
There’s rawness in his technique and his height (6-9) is an issue in terms of leverage and pad level. I’m not sure the Seahawks would draft an offensive lineman who is this tall. Yet he has the length (34 inch arms) and explosive traits (3.36 TEF) they covet. Following his pro-day there’s a growing buzz that he could go in the top-50 but as a potential ‘tackle of the future’ (left or right) he ticks a lot of boxes. He also performed reasonably well at the Senior Bowl, something the Seahawks pay a lot of attention to.
Alex Leatherwood (Alabama)
He didn’t impress at the Senior Bowl — which he needed to, after insisting he only play left tackle throughout the week. Yet his profile does match up to what Seattle looks for. He has 34 1/2 inch arms and he scored 3.16 in TEF. The Seahawks have drafted from Alabama’s trenches before and Leatherwood could be targeted to be an eventual heir apparent to Duane Brown (or Brandon Shell).
Tommy Doyle (Miami, Ohio)
As a later round option, Doyle could be very appealing. He loves to get after it on tape and he plays with an edge. Physically, he ticks all the boxes. He has 35 1/8 inch arms, he’s 320lbs and he’s explosive, scoring a 3.06 in TEF. If the Seahawks take a flier on a tackle project later on, this is a name to monitor.
Dan Moore (Texas A&M)
Moore had a reasonable career with the Aggies. However, he may be projected to kick inside at the next level. From a Seahawks perspective he has 34 1/2 inch arms, he’s 6-6 and 311lbs and his pass protection skills were on show in the SEC — where he started for three years. He’s a 3.08 TEF tester. He’s a later round alternative to some of the bigger names.
Landon Young (Kentucky)
The Seahawks like linemen with wrestling backgrounds and Young has that on his résumé. He was once highly coveted during recruiting and while he might be strictly a right tackle or guard in the NFL, he has some of the key traits. He has 34 inch arms and he’s explosive, scoring a 3.24 in TEF. He’s another later round option.
Walker Little (Stanford)
He hasn’t played for nearly two seasons and that could impact his stock. In terms of size he looks the part (6-7, 313lbs) and his agility testing (4.59 short shuttle) was impressive. He’s a 2.93 TEF tester which is good not great. He doesn’t have amazing length with 33 3/4 inch arms. I think if he lasts deep into day three due to a lack of playing time, you have to consider him as a potential tackle of the future. No earlier though, especially since he’d be sitting for a third straight year.
Center
Quinn Meinerz (UWW)
He ticks every box for the Seahawks. He has the size Mike Solari craves in his offensive linemen (320lbs). He has great length (33 3/8 inch arms). He scored a superb 3.41 in TEF, with a 109.1 in weighted TEF. He was one of the stars of the Senior Bowl and he has position flexibility. I don’t see much chance of him lasting into range for the Seahawks but if he did — he has everything they look for. I interviewed Meinerz in February.
Kendrick Green (Illinois)
I see Green as the Quinn Meinerz alternative. They are a similar size, they have similar explosive traits and they play with the same attitude. If Meinerz goes in the top-40 as I suspect he might, then Green could be the next best thing. He’s one of the most explosive O-liners to enter the league in the last few years, scoring a 3.41 in TEF. He only has 32 inch arms but he has the hand size (10 inches) to make up for it. He has played center in the past although most recently he featured at guard.
Drew Dalman (Stanford)
Another highly explosive athlete (3.31 TEF) but Dalman lacks the size of Meinerz and Green. He weighed 299lbs at his pro-day and he’s simply not naturally very big. He only has 31 1/2 inch arms but he does have 10 1/2 inch hands. The lack of size likely keeps him on the board into day three. If the Seahawks want to add competition at center and go in a different direction with their first pick, Dalman is one to watch provided they’re willing to take an undersized center.
Robert Hainsey (Notre Dame)
Hainsey was tried at center at the Senior Bowl and had a good week. His lack of length makes a permanent transition likely. He’s 306lbs with 32 1/8 inch arms and 9 7/8 inch hands. His TEF scoring was reasonable (2.97). I think he’ll go later than Dalman and again, if the Seahawks miss out early and they’re willing to draft another short-armed center, then Hainsey is an option.
Brady Christensen (BYU)
Although he played tackle at BYU he simply doesn’t have the body to stay there in the NFL. He’s low cut with a big chest and short arms (32 1/4 inches). He’s ideally suited to moving inside. He’s the most explosive offensive lineman ever tested using TEF (3.72). He has the hand size (10 1/4) for center. He’s already in his mid-20’s which will temper some of his pro-day hype and keep him on the board but he has the physical profile of a top-level center if he can make the transition.
Guard
Sam Cosmi (Texas)
I wouldn’t completely rule out the Seahawks drafting someone like Cosmi to be a tackle of the future candidate. However, with 33 inch arms it is worth noting that it would be a departure from previous ‘tackle’ picks. His outstanding pro-day with a 3.57 TEF score puts him on the radar. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility Seattle shifts Damien Lewis to center and drafts a guard. I’m not totally sure Cosmi is a fit for Mike Solari though.
Ben Cleveland (Georgia)
Cleveland is much more in line with the Solari approach to offensive linemen. Arguably the toughest and strongest player in the entire draft, he ran a 4.85 forty at 354lbs, proving his underrated athleticism. He has 33 inch arms although he didn’t do explosive testing. If you want to beat people up in the trenches, you need a player like this. I hope the addition of Gabe Jackson doesn’t prevent the Seahawks from considering Cleveland. He’s ‘the Mountain’ from Game of Thrones.
Trey Smith (Tennessee)
There are health questions with Smith, who suffered from blood clots in college and has had injuries too. That could impact his stock. His tape was also pretty bad at Tennessee and he was very inconsistent at the Senior Bowl. Yet there’s no denying he looks like he was made in the ‘first round guard’ factory in terms of frame and explosive traits. He’s 321lbs but carries it superbly, he has 33 5/8 inch arms and he scored a 3.30 in TEF. If he checks out medically, he probably goes in the top-50. If he lasts, he might be too tempting to take a chance on.
Dillon Radunz (North Dakota State)
As with Cosmi — Radunz might need to kick inside with 33 1/4 inch arms. Yet he plays with attitude and he scored a 3.04 in TEF. It’s not totally out of the question you draft him as a tackle of the future but his profile says guard for Seattle, although at 301lbs he’s light for Solari.
David Moore (Grambling State)
A Senior Bowl standout who looked good during drills and on tape at a smaller school level. He has a great personality and it was a pleasure to interview him. He has 34 1/2 inch arms, he’s now 330lbs after shifting weight during the off-season and he scored a reasonable 2.95 in TEF. As a day three value pick, he has some appeal.
Wide receiver
Speed and suddenness is the order of the day.
Pete Carroll has only drafted three receivers who haven’t run a 4.4 forty or faster:
Chris Harper 4.50
Kenny Lawler 4.64
John Ursua 4.56
Harper was a fourth round pick, while Lawler and Ursua were selected in the seventh round.
Every other player selected at the position has achieved at least a 4.4:
Paul Richardson — 4.40
Golden Tate — 4.42
Tyler Lockett — 4.40
Kris Durham — 4.46
Kevin Norwood — 4.48
Amara Darboh — 4.45
David Moore — 4.42
D.K. Metcalf — 4.33
Freddie Swain — 4.46
We have enough data to say this definitively — unless a player runs a 4.4 or faster, the Seahawks are unlikely to consider them until the very end of the draft.
With no combine this year it’s difficult to track who is a legit 4.4 runner. Usually you add 0.06 to a pro-day time to make up for the somewhat favourable environment.
For example, Nico Collins was timed running a 4.45. Anyone who has watched Collins at Michigan or watched him in 1v1’s at the Senior Bowl will tell you that quickness and suddenness are not his forte.
Without the bulk of the class running at a combine, this is harder to project then it otherwise would be. However, I’ve tried to project the best I can based on what the tape shows.
There are a couple of other things to remember.
Firstly, the Seahawks were really poor on third downs last year. I suspect adding a receiver who can help change that could be a target early in this draft.
Secondly, we should consider the two men influencing the decision making process. Pete Carroll likes deep shots. Shane Waldron might want someone who can run across the formation and do a lot of the things Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp do in LA. Finding a combination of both skills might be the key here.
Dyami Brown (North Carolina)
He ran a 4.43 at pro-day so he ticks that box and everything else about his game screams Seahawks. He’s a consistent downfield threat. The Seahawks love to take shots and Brown can deliver there — he averaged 20 yards-per-catch last season. He’s incredibly sudden and quick. For me he has potential star written all over him. Brown’s also a chain-mover, capable of converting third-downs and winning with quick separation. I think he’ll be a top-40 lock but if he lasts into range, watch out.
D’Wayne Eskridge (Western Michigan)
Eskridge ran a 4.38 at his pro-day and while a lot of players are compared to Tyreek Hill, in this instance it feels somewhat fair calling him a poor-mans Hill. In many ways he fits everything Seattle needs in a #3 apart from size (5-9, 190lbs). He can get vertical to challenge opponents plus he’s capable of winning contested catches. He’s very quick working across the middle and can be used in motion. He’s excellent working inside on slants and shorter routes to provide quick targets and deliver easy completions. If you want to run any sweeps — he can do it. He’s a dynamo on special teams as a returner. He averaged 18.5 yards per catch and 9.4 yards after the catch in five years at Western Michigan.
Rashod Bateman (Minnesota)
Bateman is difficult to project. He’s graded anywhere from the first to the third round. In 2019 he was pretty automatic when thrown to — which is the reason I’ve included him here. He’s a chain-mover. He ran a 4.43 at pro-day and it’s worth noting that his speed, agility and explosive testing numbers are virtually identical to the departed David Moore. He’s not as big as Moore but it’s something to consider.
Anthony Schwartz (Arizona)
Schwartz has a lot of appeal. Firstly, he ran a 4.26. He has legit speed and can be a threat downfield (even if he needs to work on tracking). Auburn were quite creative with him and moved him around, using him on sweeps and in motion. You wouldn’t call Schwartz the finished article and he does give off a vibe that he’s more of an interesting chess piece who just moves on to another team in four years, rather than develops into a proven, reliable force. It just depends on how much you believe in his upside and the speed.
Cade Johnson (South Dakota State)
He ran a 4.49 at pro-day and that’s something to consider if we’re adding on 0.06 seconds. I’d also suggest that a pro-day setting at a top-class athletic college is maybe a little different to the setup at South Dakota State. Nevertheless, I couldn’t not include him here. Johnson dominated receiver drills with quickness in his release and break — creating easy, immediate separation and scoring high grades for his performance. I’ve interviewed him and his play and personality reminds me of Tyler Lockett.
Rondale Moore (Purdue)
This is another difficult projection. Athletically Moore is superb — running a 4.29 and jumping a 43 inch vertical. He’s a phenomenal athlete. At the same time — he’s 5-7 and 180lbs. He’s not shown a consistent ability to get downfield and really make the most of his speed as a vertical threat. He doesn’t win a lot of contested catches despite his leaping ability. He’s more of a gadget player used around the line of scrimmage. He needs to be more than that. He might last as a consequence because I’m not sure teams will even buy into his potential as a consistent operator in the slot. Yet if Seattle wants a dynamic athlete they can let Waldron be creative with, Moore could be an option.
Shi Smith (South Carolina)
He excelled at the Senior Bowl and we know that’s big for Seattle. He ran good routes, gained attention and then made some plays in the game too. He ran a 4.43 at pro-day and he was utilised a lot in college on screens and short stuff. Smith isn’t much of a contested catcher and you’ll need to find ways to get him running into zones or get the ball in his hands but he does have some of the things they like.
Ihmir Smith-Marsette (Iowa)
He has speed (4.43) and reasonable height (6-1, 181lbs). There was a ton of buzz for ISM going into the 2020 season amid reports he was receiving high grades by NFL teams. He never quite elevated his stock but if he lasts into the middle rounds he’s someone to consider. He also has value as a kick returner and there’s a feeling that in a proper passing offense his best might be yet to come.
Tamorion Terry (Florida State)
There was a lot of hope and promise for Terry going into 2020 but his stock is now firmly fixed in day three it seems. Even so, he could provide value. He’s 6-3 and 207lbs and ran a 4.44 at pro-day. He has a nice catching radius with 33 1/2 inch arms. He’s the type of player who could easily flame out — yet he’s also got something about him. It wouldn’t be a total shock if he was the 25th receiver drafted this year and ends up being one of the ten best when all is said and done.
Marquez Stevenson (Houston)
Although he didn’t run at pro-day he’s been timed in the 4.3’s. His release, body control and ability to get downfield could majorly appeal to the Seahawks. His ball-tracking is better than a lot of the other receivers in this class. Stevenson can operate in the slot or be used in the vertical passing game. He’s certainly one to watch.
Tre Nixon (UCF)
He’s 6-0 and 187lbs, ran a 4.44 at pro-day while adding a 4.25 short shuttle and a 6.85 three cone. He jumped a 35.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad. A lack of special teams experience could knock him out of contention here but he has quickness and he can get downfield. He has some of the traits they like.
Tutu Atwell (Louisville)
He’s tiny — listed at 5-8 and 155lbs. I suspect he is just too small to consider a serious option. Running a 4.39 forty at his size is OK — but to make up for the lack of size, you really want to see something remarkable in terms of testing. We didn’t get that with Atwell. That said, he is very competitive and you can be creative with him downfield and around the LOS.
Jaelon Darden (North Texas)
He’s only 5-7 and 174lbs and he ran a 4.45. I’m not sure that’s fast enough, especially at a pro-day, to put him on the radar. However, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a receiver juke away from tackles like Darden and he does have some movement skills and agility (4.10 short shuttle). He’s someone to keep at the back of your mind if he lasts until day three.
Racey McMath (LSU)
Speed, size and special teams. That’s what should put McMath on your radar as a late-round option. He ran a 4.39 at 6-2 and 211lbs. He could be an immediate factor on special teams with the potential to develop into a deep-threat target. There’s plenty to work with here.
Running back
The Seahawks have a type at running back. They’ve consistently drafted players with a similar physical profile. It’s made it fairly straight forward to figure out who they might like. Here are the players we identified from the 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2020 combines as probable targets:
2016:
C.J. Prosise — 6-0, 220lbs, 35.5 inch vert, 10-1 broad
Kenneth Dixon — 5-10, 215lbs, 37.5 inch vert, 10-8 broad2017:
Christopher Carson — 6-0, 218lbs, 37 inch vert, 10-10 broad
Brian Hill — 6-0, 219lbs, 34 inch vert, 10-5 broad
Alvin Kamara — 5-10, 214lbs, 39.5 inch vert, 10-11 broad
Joe Williams — 5-11, 210lbs, 35 inch vert, 10-5 broad2018:
Saquon Barkley — 6-0, 233lbs, 41 inch vert DNP broad
Kerryon Johnson — 511, 213lbs 40 inch vert, 10-6 broad
Bo Scarborough — 6-0, 228lbs, 40 inch vert, 10-9 broad
Nick Chubb — 5-11, 227lbs, 38.5 inch vert, 10-8 broad
John Kelly — 5-10, 216lbs, 35 inch vert, 10-0 broad
Lavon Coleman — 5-10, 223lbs, 33 inch vert, 10-0 broad
Rashaad Penny — 5-11, 220lbs, 32.5 inch vert, 10-0 broad
Royce Freeman — 5-11, 229lbs, 34 inch vert, 9-10 broad2020:
Jonathan Taylor — 5-10, 226lbs, 36 inch vert, 10-3 broad
Cam Akers — 5-10, 217lbs, 35.5 inch vert, 10-2 broad
Deejay Dallas — 5-10, 217lbs, 33.5 inch vert, 9-11 broad
AJ Dillon — 6-0, 247lbs, 41 inch vert, 10-11 broad
Zack Moss — 5-9, 223lbs, 33 inch vert, DNP broad
James Robinson — 5-9, 219lbs, 40 inch vert, 10-5 broad
Patrick Taylor — 6-0, 217lbs, 34 inch vert, 10-3 broad
They drafted a player from each of the groups — Prosise, Carson, Penny and Dallas. They eventually added Bo Scarborough during the 2018 season and used him in 2020.
We need to look for players who are generally in the 5-10/5-11 range for height, about 215-220lbs. A +35 inch vertical and +10 broad is ideal.
Javonte Williams (North Carolina)
There’s nobody who suits the Seahawks more than Williams in this class. They love big, physical, powerful backs who explode through contact and set the tone. Williams destroyed the record for broken tackles per attempt (0.48) in 2020 and his 75 broken tackles led the country. He slimmed down for pro-day to try and run faster but he’s a big, explosive, ideal back for the Seahawks. He jumped a 36 inch vertical and a 10-3 broad, adding an impressive 4.09 short shuttle.
Trey Sermon (Ohio State)
He won’t be everyone’s cup of tea with his high-cut frame. He also had a ‘fits-and-starts’ career, showing brilliance and inconsistency in equal measure. He’s 6-0 and 215lbs and is highly explosive with a 37 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump to his name. He also ran a very impressive 6.84 three cone.
Chris Evans (Michigan)
He was once considered the next big thing at running back, receiving high grades from NFL scouts. It never happened for Evans at Michigan. That said — he’s still a tremendously explosive, dynamic runner who could provide late round value. He jumped a 40.5 inch vertical and a 10-7 broad at pro-day, adding a 4.14 short shuttle and a 6.85 three cone.
Kylin Hill (Texas A&M)
A player who cut short his college career after deciding Mike Leach wasn’t for him. He’s 5-10 and 214lbs and jumped a 36 inch vertical and a 10-3 broad. An explosive, downfield runner who could provide value on day three.
Tight end
Seattle has drafted five tight ends under Pete Carroll (if you don’t count Stephen Sullivan who was kind of picked as a player with no real set position):
Nick Vannett
Luke Willson
Anthony McCoy
Will Dissly
Colby Parkinson
They also traded for Jimmy Graham and signed Zach Miller, Greg Olsen and Gerald Everett.
All nine players are linked with a certain characteristic.
It appears the Seahawks view agility testing as vital:
Short shuttle
Luke Willson — 4.29
Will Dissly — 4.40
Nick Vannett — 4.20
Anthony McCoy — 4.57
Colby Parkinson — 4.46
Zach Miller — 4.42
Jimmy Graham — 4.45
Greg Olsen — 4.48
Gerald Everett — 4.33Three cone
Luke Willson — 7.08
Will Dissly — 7.07
Nick Vannett — 7.05
Anthony McCoy — 6.99
Colby Parkinson — 7.15
Zach Miller — 7.01
Jimmy Graham — 6.90
Greg Olsen — 7.04
Gerald Everett – 6.99
We need to look for players who ran a good short shuttle and a sub-7.15 three cone.
This is not a strong tight end class and there aren’t many players who ‘fit’ Seattle. This is a big reason why they moved to sign Everett in free agency. The chances are they will pass on this group or at best wait until the later rounds or UDFA.
John Bates (Boise State)
Very much an in-line blocker but that’s OK for the Seahawks. He doesn’t have a strong pass-catching background. He lacks length (32 1/2 inch arms) and that could take him out of contention. However, he ran a superb 4.35 short shuttle, an even better 6.85 three cone and he managed a 10-0 broad jump. These are all numbers likely to catch Seattle’s attention.
Luke Farrell (Ohio State)
Another in-line blocker without much sparkle as a pass-catcher. A 4.33 short shuttle and a 7.14 three cone are times to take notice of, however. He has 33 inch arms and jumped a 36.5 inch vertical. His forty time (4.82) was underwhelming but he might be worth a late-round flier.
Noah Gray (Duke)
He came into the season with high expectations and good grades but has seen his stock drop since. His testing numbers — a 6.90 three-cone and a 4.45 short shuttle — should interest Seattle. He also managed a 35 inch vertical, a 9-7 broad and he ran a 4.62 forty. He’s 6-3 and 240lbs with short arms (31 5/8 inches) so that could be a turn-off.
Zach Davidson (Central Missouri)
We’re probably in UDFA territory here with Davidson but a 4.26 short shuttle, a 6.95 three cone and a 37.5 inch vertical will get you into a training camp. He ran a 4.64 forty and is considered a possible H-back or move-TE project.
Quarterbacks
While large swathes of the fan base and media are comforting themselves with bits and pieces from team mates suggesting Russell Wilson is sticking around, neither the quarterback or the Seahawks have said anything about what has unquestionably been an off-season of drama.
The Seahawks have no obligation to consider Wilson’s feelings in this draft. With reports from Tony Pauline suggesting a divorce could be likely in 2022 and with Adam Schefter still leaving the door open for a trade this year, they have to think about drafting a QB if the right player is available.
After all, the right player was available in 2012 despite the fact they’d just spent a decent chunk of cash on Matt Flynn.
Wilson couldn’t have any complaints. If he’s allowed to send a list of potential trade destinations to Schefter through his agent Mark Rodgers, the Seahawks can make contingency plans on the off chance there is a split next year.
Kellen Mond (Texas A&M)
A four-year starter in the SEC who improved year-after-year. The Aggies only lost one game in 2020, to Alabama. He’s highly athletic and poised with a rocket arm. He throws under pressure with gusto and accuracy. He was the top performing quarterback at the Senior Bowl. He can be a little bit robotic and there’s room for more improv but Mond is a fantastic prospect. If he’s there at #56 they have to consider taking him.
Davis Mills (Stanford)
The opposite of Mills in the sense he only had 11 college starts. That shows on tape — his decision making can be poor at times. However, he anticipates well in the pocket and has some ‘wow’ throws on tape to go alongside the issues. He has a lot of what teams look for. The first round traits are there.
Defensive tackle
I think the Seahawks have made their bed on the D-line for 2021 and probably won’t tap into this years class unless they acquire more stock or an opportunity presents itself on day three that is just too hard to pass up.
In terms of defensive tackles or inside/out rushers, Rasheem Green, Quinton Jefferson, Jordan Hill, Jaye Howard and Malik McDowell all tested superbly in the short shuttle (4.39, 4.37, 4.51, 4.47 and 4.53 respectively).
Arm length is also important. It’s my understanding they haven’t drafted a defensive lineman with sub-33 inch arms in the Carroll era. I’d love to put Darius Stills on this list for his stack of sacks and TFL’s at West Virginia, plus his engaging personality. Yet history tells us he’s unlikely to be selected by this team.
Bobby Brown (Texas A&M)
I’ve listed Brown as a second round prospect. His combination of size, length, power and agility is rare. He’s capable of anchoring while also working across the line and acting as a disruptive force. If he’s available later on, every team has to consider him. He’s 6-4 and 321lbs with 35 inch arms and an 85.5 inch wingspan. He ran a 5.04 forty and a 4.58 short shuttle plus jumped a 33 inch vertical and a 9-5 broad. He has an elite physical profile and his tape is vastly underrated. He’s one of the most intriguing players in this class.
Daviyon Nixon (Iowa)
Like Brown, I think Nixon will go earlier than many in the media are suggesting. I doubt he’ll be available for Seattle. He was a TFL machine in 2020, collecting 13.5. Nixon creates havoc from the interior and is a true playmaking defensive tackle. He has 35 1/8 inch arms and he ran a 4.90 forty at 313lbs. He has special traits and he could be a big-time DT at the next level.
TaQuon Graham (Texas)
A later round project with appealing traits. Graham has 35 inch arms on a 6-3, 291lbs frame. He ran a 4.89 forty and a 4.68 short shuttle. His tape is somewhat underwhelming and he needs a lot of technical refinement but you can work with this physical profile.
Marquiss Spencer (Mississippi State)
He was listed at 300lbs last season but played defensive end. It’s a strange situation really because he looks like he’s better suited to the edge than working inside. He’s a shade under 6-4 with 33 1/8 inch arms. He ran a 4.87 forty and a 4.51 short shuttle. He added a 31.5 inch vertical and a 9-3 broad. He’s an impressive athlete who might be worth a late round flier.
Defensive end
For defensive ends or LEO’s they’ve sought twitchy athletes with great burst. Bruce Irvin and Cliff Avril ran 1.55 and 1.50 10-yard splits respectively. Anything in the 1.5’s is considered ‘elite’.
Irvin (4.03) and Frank Clark (4.05) also ran incredible short shuttles. Cassius Marsh (4.25) and Obum Gwacham (4.28) were also strong performers — so agility testing is something else to focus on.
Great arm length and wingspan is also key when rushing the edge.
I’ve not included players who I definitely don’t think will be available, such as Azeez Olujari, Jaelen Phillips and Jayson Oweh.
Joshua Kaindoh (Florida State)
A former recruiting superstar, Kaindoh had plenty of splash moments at FSU but never became a consistent player. There’s no denying his physical profile though. He’s nearly 6-6 and 260lbs with 34.5 inch arms and an 82 inch wingspan. He ran a 1.58 split, a 4.43 short shuttle and jumped a 36.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad.
Gregory Rousseau (Miami)
His stock is falling rapidly it seems after holding out of 2020 and having a so-so pro-day. He’s still a name to monitor, just in case. A 6-6 frame at 266lbs with 34.5 inch arms, an 83 inch wingspan, a 1.57 split and a 4.53 short shuttle are numbers that will probably appeal to Seattle if he drops deep into day two.
Payton Turner (Houston)
We don’t have any testing numbers for Turner but I had to put him on the list. He was excellent at the Senior Bowl and I thoroughly enjoyed interviewing him. He’s 6-5, 270lbs and has 35 inch arms. He has special traits and major upside.
Dayo Odeyingbo (Vanderbilt)
I thought he’d be a top-20 pick going into the process but then he tore an achilles prior to the Senior Bowl. He’s an outstanding player with elite traits including 35 1/4 inch arms and an 86 3/8 wingspan. He’s 6-5 and 285lbs. Odeyingbo might need a redshirt year but he has first round talent.
Hamilcar Rashed (Oregon State)
His 2020 season was a total damp squib and his stock has collapsed. However, he has traits that will appeal to Seattle as a potential LEO. He ran a 1.59 split, jumped a 35.5 inch vertical and a 10-8 broad. He’s 6-2 and 250lbs with 34 inch arms.
Rashad Weaver (Pittsburgh)
At 6-4 and 259lbs he ran a 1.57 split. He has a strange profile — combining burst and fantastic agility (4.26 short shuttle, 6.97 three cone) with mediocre explosive traits and a 4.88 forty. He has 33 1/4 inch arms and a near 83 inch wingspan. There are really flashy moments on tape but I can’t help but feel he’s not quite the long-lean LEO type while lacking the size to play power end.
William Bradley-King (Baylor)
He ran an impressive 1.59 split, a 4.29 short shuttle and he has 33.5 inch arms with an 80 5/8 wingspan. He’s explosive with a 34.5 inch vertical and a 9-11 broad. He could be a day three option.
Elerson Smith (Northern Iowa)
He’s 6-6 and 252lbs with 33 1/4 inch arms. He’s extremely explosive with a 41.5 inch vertical and a 10-7 broad. He ran a 1.60 split and a 4.39 short shuttle. He showed flashes at the Senior Bowl and while he’s not the finished product, with a bit of seasoning he has the physical profile to be a productive pass rusher at the next level.
Linebacker
They’ve tended to look for two types of player at linebacker — freakish athletes and players with great short-area quickness and agility.
Kevin Pierre-Louis, Korey Toomer, Malcolm Smith and Eric Pinkins all ran between a 4.44 and a 4.51 in the forty. Shaquem Griffin topped the lot with a 4.38.
Pierre-Louis, Smith and Pinkins all jumped +39 inches in the vertical. Bobby Wagner was a 4.4 runner at his pro-day with a 39.5-inch vertical.
Of the five players they’ve drafted with a +140 SPARQ score, Wagner, Pierre-Louis and Bruce Irvin are included.
They’ve also targeted players who performed especially well in the short shuttle. Here are the top-15 short shuttle times run by a linebacker since 2010:
Jordan Tripp — 3.96
Nick Bellore — 4.00
Ben Heeney — 4.00
Mike Mohamed — 4.00
Nick Vigil — 4.00
Kevin Pierre-Louis — 4.02
Stephone Anthony — 4.03
Cody Barton — 4.03
Dakota Allen — 4.03
Von Miller — 4.06
Josh Hull — 4.07
Dorian O’Daniel — 4.07
Avery Williamson — 4.07
Shaq Thompson — 4.08
Ben Burr-Kirven — 4.09
The players in bold have been either drafted or signed by the Seahawks.
I would imagine they’ve somewhat made their bed at linebacker after spending a first round pick on Jordyn Brooks a year ago (who, for what it’s worth, only ran a forty at the combine and didn’t do any other testing).
Yes they need to replace Bruce Irvin and K.J Wright. I suspect there’s a reasonable chance one or both could still return.
That said, there are a handful of players in this draft who either delivered elite, outstanding pro-day workouts or ran sensational short shuttles.
Buddy Johnson (Texas A&M)
A seriously underrated, impressive player. Johnson is loved by team mates who roared him on at his pro-day. He ran a 4.07 short shuttle which puts him right in contention for the Seahawks. He added a 38.5 inch vertical and a 10-8 broad jump. He’s only 229lbs but that’s the way the game has gone at linebacker. I think he deserves a second round grade but he could last and be a value pick for someone.
Barron Browning (Ohio State)
I suspect he’ll go way too early for Seattle. He’s nearly 6-3 and 245lbs with 33.5 inch arms. He ran a 4.22 short shuttle and a 6.78 three cone. He jumped a 40 inch vertical and a 10-10 broad. His forty was timed at a 4.56. He’s an outsanding athlete.
Pete Werner (Ohio State)
Another top-tier athlete from Ohio State. Werner is pushing 6-3 and 238lbs. He ran a 4.38 short shuttle and a 6.90 three cone. His vertical was 39.5 inches and his broad a 10-2. He will likely go in the second round I think — early third as a worst case scenario.
Joseph Ossai (Texas)
He shifted to the EDGE at Texas and I think he’ll go too early for Seattle. Yet he could provide a SAM/LEO option. He’s 6-3 and 256lbs and ran a 1.58 split. He has 34 inch arms. He jumped an incredible 41.5 inch vertical and a 10-11 broad.
Chris Rumph (Duke)
There are no testing numbers for Rumph but on tape he looks well suited to being a SAM. He’s nearly 6-3 and 235lbs with 34 inch arms.
Shaka Toney (Penn State)
He’s 6-2 and 242lbs with underwhelming tape. He ran a 1.58 split, a 4.53 forty and a 4.29 short shuttle. He jumped a 39 inch vertical and a 10-8 broad. He has some late round or UDFA value as a project.
Defensive backs
We all know by now what the Seahawks look for at corner. Length is king. You can often identify a potential target just by his appearance.
We’ve previously discussed the importance of wingspan too. Wingspan is defined as the length between the tip of your middle finger on one outstretched arm to the other. The average NFL cornerback has a wingspan of 75.5 inches (31.5 inch arm length). Here’s the arm length and wingspan data for some of Seattle’s draftees, acquisitions and starters since 2010:
Richard Sherman — 32 (arms) 78 (wingspan)
Brandon Browner — 33 (arms) 80 (wingspan)
Byron Maxwell — 33.5 (arms) 77.5 (wingspan)
Jeremy Lane — 32.5 (arms) 78 (wingspan)
Tye Smith — 32 (arms) 78 (wingspan)
DeAndre Elliott — 32 (arms) 77.5 (wingspan)
Neiko Thorpe — 31 3/4 (arms) 78 1/2 (wingspan)
Stanley Jean-Baptiste — 32 3/8 (arms) 78 3/8 (wingspan)
Pierre Desir — 33 (arms) 77.5 (wingspan)
Tre Flowers — 34 (arms) 79.5 (wingspan)
We also know that the earliest draft pick spent on a cornerback in the Carroll era was Shaquill Griffin in the late third round (#90). It would be a big departure for the Seahawks to spend their top pick on a corner and having already added Ahkello Witherspoon, they might be willing to wait until day three again this year.
There’s a real mix of physical profiles in the players they’ve taken at safety, making it a difficult position to project. Of all the positions, this might be the one without a clear established physical ideal. It could be the position where scouting matters the most — or at least establishing what type of safety you are drafting.
However, given the investment in the position already — it seems highly unlikely the Seahawks will make another safety pick in this draft.
Benjamin St. Juste (Minnesota)
He just looks like a Seahawks corner. Long, lean and not afraid to tackle. He’s adept at PBU’s but needs to work on adding some interceptions. He’s a highly intelligent player with 32 5/8 inch arms on a 6-3, 202lbs frame. He ran a 4.01 short shuttle and a 6.63 three cone. If he lasts long enough, he’ll be on Seattle’s radar. For more on St. Juste, check out my interview with him from early March.
Israel Mukuamu (South Carolina)
I’m not sure any player in this group ‘looks’ more like a Seahawks corner than Mukuamu. He’s 6-4 and 212lbs with 34 inch arms. He could easily be someone they target on day three.
Robert Rochell (Central Arkansas)
An outstanding athlete who ticks every box. He’s 6-0 and 193lbs with 32 3/8 inch arms. He ran a 4.41 forty, jumped a 43 inch vertical and an 11-1 broad. He had some rough moments at the Senior Bowl and he’s a work in progress. Yet purely based on profile, he’s someone coaches will love to get their hands on. His stock appears to be rising into the day two range.
Ambry Thomas (Michigan)
He has a slight frame and might be a little small for the Seahawks tastes. Yet on tape I thought he was competitive, sticky in coverage and highly talented. At pro-day he measured a shade under 6-0 and 191lbs with 32 1/4 inch arms. He ran a 4.41, jumped a 38 inch vertical and a 10-2 broad. There’s plenty to work with here.
Eric Stokes (Georgia)
Mr. Consistency who was extremely reliable and should be off the board before the Seahawks get a serious chance to consider him. He’s 6-0 and 194lbs with 32 3/4 inch arms. He ran a superb 4.31 forty and jumped a 38.5 inch vertical and a 10-8 broad.
Tyson Campbell (Georgia)
On tape I thought he struggled to play the ball and there should be concerns about a 4.45 short shuttle at 193lbs. Even so, he has 32 inch arms and he ran a 4.40 forty. I think he’ll last longer than the media generally is projecting.
DJ Daniel (Georgia)
He was stuck behind the two names above at Georgia but Daniel has an interesting profile nonetheless. He’s nearly 6-0 and 195lbs with incrdible 33 3/8 inch arms. He ran a 4.12 short shuttle. He’s a later round prospect but someone worth giving an opportunity to.
Shaun Wade (Ohio State)
The forgotten man of the draft class. Wade struggled at outside corner in 2020 after a terrific spell at nickel. Maybe what we saw last season is what we’ll see at the next level and he’ll sink like a stone? However, I still remember the 2019 tape and the major recruiting buzz. He’s 6-0, 195lbs and he has 33 1/2 inch arms. You can work with that. At the very least he could be a safety convert.
Ifeatu Melifonwu (Illinois)
He’s 6-2 and 205lbs with 32 1/8 inch arms. He jumped a 41.5 inch vertical and an 11-2 broad. You just hope he has more dog in him than his brother did. I have to say, I wasn’t entirely convinced watching him on tape.
Jason Pinnock (Pittsburgh)
He’s a shade under 6-1 and 204lbs with 32 3/8 inch arms. He ran a 4.49 at pro-day and then added a 39.5 inch vertical and a 10-8 broad. He certainly looks the part but it has to be noted he’s allowed six touchdowns of +25 yards since 2019. Staying ‘on top’ is a big deal for the Seahawks and those numbers are somewhat concerning. Even so, his frame and run support warrants putting him on the watch-list.
Nahshon Wright (Oregon State)
Another player who screams Seahawks based on appearance. He’s 6-4 and 183lbs with 33 inch arms. However, there should be some concern about a 4.57 short shuttle and a 31 inch vertical. If he can’t jump and can’t change direction very well, that’s a worry.
James Wiggins (Cincinnati)
Tough, physical safety who wasn’t the same in 2020 after an ACL injury. He’s 5-11 and 209lbs and ran a 4.42 forty. He also jumped a 38 inch vertical and a 10-7 broad. Wiggins has kick-return experience and could provide depth and special teams value.
Darrick Forrest (Cincinnati)
The other Cincy safety is more of a downfield striker but he also tested well. He’s 5-11 and 206lbs and ran a 4.43. He jumped a 39 inch vertical and an 11-0 broad. Forrest also has 32 inch arms and could even be tried at corner.
Caden Sterns (Texas)
A former big name recruit who never delivered but could provide some later round value. He’s 6-0 and 202lbs with 32 1/8 inch arms. He ran a 4.41 forty and jumped a 42 inch vertical with a 10-8 broad. He’s another player who could be tried in different spots.
Divine Deablo (Virginia Tech)
A big, fast, physical safety with fantastic special teams value. He’s 6-3 and 226lbs with 33 inch arms. He ran a 4.45 forty. Kam Chancellor is a self-confessed fan due to his size and willingness to tackle.
Shawn Davis (Florida)
He didn’t do a lot of testing at pro-day but he’s a player who flashed on tape at safety. He’s 5-10 and 202lbs with 32 inch arms. He jumped a 39.5 inch vertical and a 10-8 broad.
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Fantastic preview, Rob. Much appreciated!
I noticed Marvin Wilson is now off your draft board. I recall you were quite high on him at one time. Is it because of his inconsistency?
His play was always hit and miss. Great flashes but also occasions where he was absolutely gassed.
The saving grace was his athletic profile. At SPARQ he tested through the roof. When his testing at pro-day was thoroughly unspectacular, that was the final straw really. He might go undrafted to be honest
‘If he’s there at #56 they have to consider taking him’ (Kellen Mond)
i would as well consider – would also be interesting how this would be seen?
is it a move just to shake a few feathers and focus RW or a genuine replacement?
The quarterback sent a list of trade suitors to Adam Schefter
Drafting a QB, in these circumstances, would be common sense without a long term resolution. Therefore, if a parting does happen in 12 months, you’ve given yourself a chance to have a succession plan
Also, there is the opportunity to trade Mond if he does well in the preseason games and cleanup duty at the end of games. But, in reality, if he does that well, I can see Pete pulling the trigger on a trade after this season and rolling with a cheap QB. Sounds familiar.
If not Mond this year, Mckenzie Milton will be interesting to watch in the ACC this year. He’s consistently a winner and looked great in his spring game back from surgery 2 years ago.
An absolute master piece Rob, there is no one out there doing stuff this detailed and team specific. Even with so few picks you’ve helped this draft season remain interesting and exciting.
Working the draft simulator as many times as I have, the best scenarios I’ve manged to muster is trying to trade back to the middle of Rd3 then back up into the top 100 and pick 2 OL – say Green to play C and D’Ante Smith as a developmental tackle. The corner and WR depth is still available with whatever picks you’ve manged to create by trading down, with something like Schwartz and Makuamu being a pretty ideal combo. Clearly there’s no perfect scenario this year, but we have to play the hand we’ve been dealt (or the hand we played ourselves in PC/JS’ case).
Thanks Henry.
It’s a crushing blow doing the simulators. Not so much for who you can get early but you’ve eliminated an opportunity to flood your board in the rich 2-4 area where you could, realistically, still draft foundational players in this draft. Now they’re going to have to trade down from #56 just to get a few extra picks later on.
It’s a mess, frankly. And I still think there might be something to give before draft day. They won’t be totally oblivious to the issues forthcoming.
Thanks Rob for doing this, following this blog for the last few years has made draft season so much better.
I may have missed the thread for this, but what are people’s thoughts on Will Dissly posting “Till next time Seattle ✌🏼“ on his Instagram story?
Thank you
I suspect he’s probably just going on holiday or a trip
Appreciate all the work as always Rob. A couple of questions:
No mention of Jamar Jefferson of Oregon St,. in your RB breakdowns. Why?
Are you going to participate in the Huddle Report competition again this year?
1. Jefferson measured 5-10 and 206lbs so he’s small for Seattle and he only had a 31 inch vertical and a 9-7 broad so he’s not explosive enough for them
2. Yep, I’ll be in the Huddle Report again
Thanks
As a hardcore Beaver fan (insert innuendo here), this saddens me. But he does seems more like a Deejay Dallas/Homer type, which we don’t need.
Well he barely had any recruiting hype out of high school despite playing at Narbonne in Long Beach. Still doesn’t take away that he was a great college running back who gave some energy to an otherwise lifeless Oregon State program.
I simply wanted to add my kudos Rob, for another incredible piece here on the site. Thanks.
Incredible content, Rob!
Let’s say we trade Wilson to the Bears on draft day. If we have the #20 pick, who would be good candidates at that range? Do we trade down and select Kellen Mond at the end of the first or try to snag him at #56?
I think the only way that happens is if yes they love Mond/Davis or one of Lance/Fields drops. But the problem with this is you’re then using your top pick to replace Wilson, thus not getting any great immediate benefit. So I can’t see it.
IMO if you trade Wilson, it’s only because you’ve found your guy to replace him. So you had better not get cute and make sure to get him. Is an extra mid-round pick really worth the risk of missing out on your QB? I’d say no way, especially supposing we should have gained plenty of stock from trading Wilson.
The last 5-6 picks of R1 are prime spots for good teams looking for long-term replacements at QB, or the bad teams that passed on a QB early in R1 like to trade up into that range from the top of R2 and buy a lottery ticket on a project QB.
Great work, Rob. Thanks for sinking all the time it took to produce it. I know you get lots of crap for making honest assessments with this team, but you honestly make following this team more enjoyable.
A work of art. Thank you!
Wow, awesome write-up. I’m behind, so this is a great list to go and watch between now and the draft.
Now we just need the Seahawks to go get us some picks back!
Thanks for setting realistic expectations, really nice work on this Rob.
In an exact alternate universe I decided to sell the farm and see what happens. I traded Jamal Adams to the Jags for picks 25/45/2022 R3. I then traded Bobby Wagner to the Broncos for pick 71/2022 R7. Lastly I called up the Raiders and sent Russ to Las Vegas for picks 17/79/2022 R1/2023 R1.
That left the Seahawks without a QB on offense or on defense and a big question mark at Safety. But here we go:
Original selections: 56/129/250
Selections with Trade: 17/25/45/56/71/79/129/250, 2022 R1/3/7, 2023 R1
17. Azeez Ojulari, DE Georgia
25. Landon Dickerson, C Alabama
45. Javonte Williams, RB North Carolina
56. Jamin Davis, LB Kentucky
71. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M
79. Eric Stokes, CB Georgia
129. Marquez Stevenson, WR Houston
250. Tre McKitty, TE Georgia
The one player I was hoping to fit in but is always selected too early for us is Divine Deablo. He has value immediately as a replacement for the injury-prone Marquis Blair. Also to step in as a more pure SS than Jamal ever was in our system. The other unexpected big gets were Jamin Davis who could work really nicely alongside Jordyn Brooks giving us a dynamic LB pairing on the cheap for a few years. As well as Kellen Mond who I think is massively underrated even as a late R2/early 3 selection. He throws bullets and consistently and visibly improved his game every year he played without drop off which is a rarity in the college game especially in the SEC. Getting him on a mid round contract would set us up for a 2012-2014-ish rebuild. With the extra cap space to come you could save on the Wilson/Wagner/Adams contracts and bring in vets at WR, CB (Sherm) and QB. The biggest get of all is Javonte Williams who alongside Carson could be one of the best RB tandems in the game.
Trading Adams to recoup draft stock and replacing him with Blair/Neal/Deablo is my dream scenario.
Right. Anything to keep Chancellor engaged in the franchise as well. I would hope Deablo would bring Kam back into the assistant coaching conversation. Why not Sherm too, once he’s done.
I like the thought experiment.
But I don’t think the Seahawks trade Russ to Vegas without getting Mariota or Carr back in the deal.
thought about that too, not sure which one of the two I’d prefer. Maybe a Mariota since he has the mobility and he’d likely affect the additional picks less than Carr.
Garrett and Clowney would be quite a duo
Nope. Clowney is beat.
Great work as usual!
Wow! Great write-up. Thanks for all the work you put into this. I love the depth of this information.
I look regularly at nfl.com, ESPN and CBS. None comes even close to the quality of the content of this blog.
I wonder among these names, is there one that would convince Pete and John to use pick 56? Maybe Meinerz but they could get a C later and rotate with Pocic. Maybe Javonte Williams, in the unlikely case that everyone picks OL. Should Mond by some miracle be available, they could make the move. For CBs and WRs there’s enough depth to pick later.
Rob,
Spectacular write up!!! Thank you for being the most informative and thoughtful sports website that I have ever come across.
SS-Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech, 2010 draft; compared to: SS-Divine Deablo, Virginia Tech: 2020 draft:
———Kam Chancellor: ———Devine Deablo:
Height: 6-3 2/8 Height: 6′ 3 1/4″
Weight: 231 lbs. Weight: 226 lbs,
40-yard Dash: 4.69 *40-yard dash: 4.42*
10-yard Split: 1.65 10-yd split: unknown
225-lb Bench Reps: 22 225-lb Bench reps: 19
Vertical Jump: 32“ Vertical Jump: 34“
Broad Jump: 9‘-8“ *Broad Jump: 10‘-6“*
20-yard Shuttle: 4.41 20-yard Shuttle: 4.45
3-cone Drill: 7.36 *3-Cone: 7.01*
IF, there is an Adams trade & some picks added, — Deablo could be an ideal option as a replacement?
Welcome to the club!
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/why-the-seahawks-should-trade-jamal-adams#comment-555647
Uh oh, look what Jim just happened to post…
Man i wish we had a need for a safety. He looks good. Like real good.
Incredible content Rob! Despite no combine data, you’ve done it again. Your diligence is gold standard for any draft analyst, especially Seahawks related.
Last couple seasons seem to show them picking players to develop into starters. It doesn’t seem like they pick guys with intent on being Day 1 starters. This may have more to do with draft position more than anything. I don’t remember who said it, but Schneider or Carroll made a reference to drafting for needs 2-3 years out. I think this explains the Brooks pick that blindsided us. I’m also curious if Waldron will have any influence on player selections.
The depth in R3 and into R4 looks incredible. Getting 3 picks between 50-120 could yield an awesome haul in this draft, particularly positions of need: WR, CB, and O-line.
Lastly, it’s unlikely to happen, but sure would love to see Nixon in a Hawks jersey. Jarran who?
Used simulator to trade down and resulted in 7 picks overall between 104 and 250. These were my trades:
Traded #56 overall to Houston for #67 and #109
Traded #67 to Baltimore for #104, #131 and #171
Traded #129 to KC for #136 and #175
Yielding the following picks: 104, 109, 131, 136, 171, 175, 250
#104: Dewayne Eskridge, WR
#109: D’Ante Smith, OT
#131: B. St. Juste, CB
#136: Cam Sample, Edge
#171: Israel Mukuami, S
#175: TaQuon Graham, DT
#250: Gerrid Doaks, RB, Cincinnati
Nice draft!
Big YES to Gerrid Doaks! He’s my late-round Seahawks’ RB lock too, though I don’t think he’ll make it past R5.
Otherwise nice, although I don’t think we need both St. Juste and Mukuamu as CB projects. I’d stick with St. Juste. Better feet. Move Doaks up to #171 and that’s perfect for him.
Thanks. I aimed for two in the secondary because I’m underwhelmed with what we currently have on the roster at CB.
Doaks’ pro-day 40 was 4.58. If you tack on the 0.06 for the usual speed of pro-day tracks, then he’s at 4.64. To me it seems like his numbers are just a bit worse than Nick Chubb’s. Chubb had a combine 40 time of 4.52. Doaks is comparable in size and weight, better vertical, but lower broad jump and his 40 time is a tick worse. Similarly his 3-cone and short shuttle times are a bit worse than Chubb’s. From what I’ve seen, he’s a good north-south runner and can make one cut and go pretty well, but if he starts going east-west he’s going to see more TFL’s.
Love this draft. Doaks is a beast.
Enjoyed this a lot. Thanks.
This is all great work Rob. I’ve been on furlough in France for the last 5 months, and had an unprecedented amount of time to enjoy looking at prospects this year, but your work is the gold standard.
Having blown my usual annual punt on the National this last weekend, reading the player portraits reminds me of scanning the Racing Post, I love it!
A couple of other players I’m intrigued by, probably for the later rounds are:
Gerrid Doakes, RB out of Cincinatti
(stats courtesy of nfldraftrite.com)
5′ 11 3/8″, 228 lbs,
9 3/4″ hand, 31″ arm,
77 3/4″ wingspan,
4.58 40, 19 bench,
39.5″ vertical, 10′ broad,
4.28 shuttle, 7.21 3-cone
I think his production has been limited by a few injuries (we’ve seen that before), but his ‘limited’ tape shows he runs hard and surprisingly for his size is quite adapt at taking a few catches out of the backfield. Would definitely swing at #250 for a player like this (one spot after Chris Carson in 2027).
The other is:
Jacob Harris out of UCF
(nfldraftrite)
6′ 5″, 219 lbs,
9 1/2″ hand, 33 3/4″ arm,
81 1/4″ wingspan,
4.43 40, 15 bench,
40.5″ vertical, 11′ 1″ broad,
4.31 shuttle, 6.51 3-cone
This guy measured off the charts, ridiculous. Again his tape is limited but he catches well outside his body, with some agility. Could be a really interesting player to run short routes and slants etc, possibly developing into a moving tight end in a year or so. If trading down gets us picks in Rds5 and 6, maybe, if he’s still there?
Jacob Harris is listed as a Wide Receiver
Hey, we just brought up Doaks a couple comments above. As I said there, I think it’s unlikely he slips past R5 with that kind of size/explosive testing and hands for the passing game. Not impossible (see: Carson, Chris), but unlikely IMO.
Saw a clip a while back of Jacob Harris’ vert, which was pretty impressive and gives a good look at his build, but haven’t looked at any highlights or games yet.
https://twitter.com/IamJClary/status/1377657077598973963
Would be a big project, for sure.
Great minds! I think you and no frickin clue must have posted as I was writing. Do you think the likes of Chris Carson / Gerrid Doaks don’t get to end of Rd 7 anymore? More coverage or just NFL learn from previous drafts?
(sorry messed up linking it to this reply – so duplicated in the feed below)
Seems like last year was a massive exception, so unless something has changed in the league to a ‘barbell’ strategy for RBs (pick early, or wait for undrafted free agent signings), then I’d expect plenty of RBs to fall into late in Day 3.
Here are the number of RBs drafted in rounds 6 and 7 in each the last 10 years, with # of total RB picks in the draft in parens.
2020 – 2 selected in rds 6-7 (16 RBs selected overall)
2019 – 11 (25)
2018 – 7 (21)
2017 – 11 (30)
2016 – 10 (23)
2015 – 5 (22)
2014 – 8 (22)
2013 – 12 (26)
2012 – 8 (21)
2011 – 10 (29)
If you average out the results from 2011-2019, the average draft year has 24 RBs selected, and of those, nine RBs get picked in either Round 6 or Round 7. Basically one-third of drafted RBs are claimed late in the draft.
Last year had fewer RBs drafted than at any point in the last 10 years, so I’m guessing 2020 had a substantial drop-off in quality once you got past the top talent, rather than some league-wide strategy to ignore the RB position. Yes it’s a passing league, but it’s been a passing league for awhile.
I’ll check them out!
Great content Rob – the best draft report I’ve seen anywhere! Posted this past mid-evening last night on the last thread, but because of an internet problem it didn’t come throught till around 3-4AM today.
Recently found the pro day results at Walter Football – https://walterfootball.com/proday.php
They seem much more complete results of more teams and players per team than at NFL.com, CBS Sports and others. Found at least 2 or 3 that I either had barely or hadn’t heard of before.
In Rob’s great interview of Jim Nagy a few months ago, one of the RBs Nagy mentioned to look for was Elijah Mitchell of Louisiana. Mitchell had a very good year although splitting time with another RB and losing 2 excellent OL in the 2020 NFL draft. Another Rob interviewee Robert Hunt went to the Dolphins at #39 and Kevin Dotson, voted best OL at the Shrine Game in 2020 went to the Steelers in round 4. Tony Pauline’s final summary of Mitchell during Senior Bowl week was “Entering the week we knew Mitchell was a powerful interior ball carrier. The question was, is he anything other than a powerful ball carrier? Mitchell answered those questions definitively by displaying terrific quickness, footwork, and the ability to sift through the trash. He also caught the ball extremely well all week long.” These were his numbers at his Pro day: 5’10 1/4, 201 (he was 215 at the Senior Bowl), 40 yd. dash – 4.38, bench – 17, 3 cone – 6.94, Vert. -37.5, Broad – 10-8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjhzDTkJuE4&ab_channel=JustBombsProductions
Another is WR Simi Fehoko of Stanford, 6’4″ 222 at his Pro day, had 37 catches for 574 yds. and 3 TDs this past year, although a lot of it was in a Stanford record for catches with 16 against UCLA, also had 230 yds. and 3 TDs in that game, was 1st team Pac 12. “Fehoko took two attempts at the 40-yard dash on Thursday. His first attempt was reported at 4.39 and the second attempt was even better, unofficially timed at 4.37. Fehoko also impressed in the short shuttle (4.21), three-cone drill (6.78), standing broad jump (10’0’’) and the vertical jump (34.5’’). Overall, he appears to have elevated his draft stock with the performance. Fehoko also participated in Davis Mills’s throwing portion of the Pro Day event, showing off his route running, catching and deep-ball ability.” https://247sports.com/college/stanford/Article/Simi-Fehoko-Pro-Day-Stanford-football-40-yard-dash-437-time-wide-receiver–162628419/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s9PN6NhERY&ab_channel=SeanBialaszek
One more freaky fast Big WR is Jacob Harris of UCF, 6’5″ 219 at his Pro day, had 30 catches for 539 yds. and 8 TDs in 10 games in 2020. He ran a 4.39 40, bench – 17, 3 cone – 6.54, Vert. – 40.5, Broad – 11-1. He went from a possible UDFA to a day 3 sleeper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=511YNYLPdG0&ab_channel=JacobHarris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjsSBZRMYQ4&ab_channel=DraftDiamonds
If we trade JA or more, trade down and get a bunch of picks or just how Rob or others did at PFN to get from 3 to 6-10 picks, would love to see us draft WR Schwartz of Auburn with his 4.3 speed on day 2 and 2 of the above 3 on day 3 (Fehoko and Mitchell), so we would have speed to burn like KC. 2 new WRs and 1 RB with 4.4 or better speed! RW and Waldron would have a field day – so many options with that fast of an O. Freddie Swain runs 4.46 and he would be our slowest WR!
Also of course draft a couple of OL, a pass rushing DT and another DB. According to overthecap.com, we now have over 8 mil. in cap space after the adjusted Lockett contract. What better time to go after Sherman and KJ who still can’t find a market or new team? Even if you use the credit card, pay them decent signing bonuses so they have a 2-3 mil. cap hit this year each, get it done! That would greatly improve the D, and concentrating on OL and skill positions in the draft can possibly do the same for the O.
Let’s hope our Centers fall to us!
As has been said by many, “you can’t have enough pass rushers.” Maybe the Seahawks take one, maybe not. I’ve watched a lot of tape on Turner & think he’s a viable option for the Seahawks IF they had more picks. Turner seems to be slotted in the late 2-nd to mid. 3-rd round range currently. I really liked his interview with Rob as well, seems like he’s a good one to target, –IF– EDGE is considered in this draft.
DE-Payton Turner, Houston, Height: 6’6″ (92nd), Weight: 268 (70th), Arm: 35 3/8″ (96th), Hand: 10 1/2″ (95th), Vert: 36″ (76th), Bench: 23 reps (57th), Short shuttle: 4.25 (84th), ****3-cone: 6.70 (99th)****.
2020 #;s: 5-games, 25-tkls, 17-solo, 10.5-TFL, 5.0-sacks, 1-FF — (NOTE: 2+ TFL/1-sack/6+ pressures per game – average.) — Career #’s: 36-games, 114-tkls, 68-solo, 23.5-TFL, 9.5-sacks, 1-INT, 9-PD, 1-FF
“”He’s the only edge in the class who boasts run-defense and pass-rushing grades over 90.0. He racked up 31 pressures in his final five games this season after knocking off the rust. Per PFF”“. = NICE, but it’s unlikely that he falls all the way to the Seahawks Rd-4 pick, might take a slight trade up to get him, IF more picks become available somehow. He looks like “one of” the most ideal Seahawk pass rusher in this draft to my eyes because he’s probably not a day-1 pick & will go possibly in round 3, thus he may be available with a little of the usual innovation we expect from JS.
Great minds! I think you and no frickin clue must have posted as I was writing. Do you think the likes of Chris Carson / Gerrid Doaks don’t get to end of Rd 7 anymore? More coverage or just NFL learn from previous drafts?
Well thought out and incredibly detailed player analysis. Easy to see the amount of work put into this piece, and it’s greatly appreciated.
Not to mention the depth of each position. You went all out on this one.
Many players I hadn’t heard anyone mention, was also a nice surprise.
Ex. Tommy Doyle, I liked him as a possible late round flyer.
The shear amount of players with write ups and possible Seahawk fits. As usual you continue to put out the best Seahawks content period. Great write up.
Two I didn’t see and wanted your opinions as later round fits.
C/G Trey Smith started at both, but injuries to both knees likely drop him. Love his strenth & size though.
A mauler at Center, but could need some work. Still after watching him a Georgia he sure looks like he could offer some flexibility on the O-line. I grabbed him round 4 in PFN
RB Jack Funk is another guy with knee injuries, but can still play. Came back and looked good. I was surprised his testing numbers were as goodasthey were; they did fit how he looks on the field though.
Got him at pick 250 on PFN.
I might be missing something,but I think he could be a great late pick.
And seems to fit most of what the Seahawks like.
At 5’10, 204Lbs, he might just need to add 10 pounds, but sure plays like a bigger back. Reminds me a little bit of Josh Jacobs.
Thoughts on those two?
Again thanks for the great work.
Again thanks for all the work.
Why do I get the feeling they will pick 3 times in the 3rd?
A 3rd round OL, WR and CB would be a solid haul!
MC
Nope. 3 LB’s and a lot of “We got our guys” in the war room.
Naw, 2 LBs and a SS
So Buddy Johnson, Barron Browning and Divine Deablo!
Really, would that be so horrible???!
Amazing work Rob, really enjoyed this! The detail on these players as possible fits for the Seahawks is just amazing – thank you for doing this!
Impressive work, Rob! Thanks for posting this as I’m sure a lot of us will be referring back to it come draft time. I hope we are able to get back into the mid rounds with more picks (somehow) so we can add more depth.
For those that have access to the Athletic, Mike Dugar had a pretty decent mock draft earlier today.
https://theathletic.com/2507593/2021/04/12/seahawks-nfl-mock-draft-trade-alert-multiple-deals-add-bodies-more-picks/
He must have read Rob’s article before posting his mock! 🙂
A lot of those players won’t be available for Seattle…
Yeah, I figured that would be the case. But the picks he got in the trades kept us in the middle rounds and it seems there is a lot of depth in this year’s draft for us to find a diamond or two in the rough.
Simply amazing. Thanks Rob!
Dan you do good work here. Going through those names you just cat not stop and focus on Deablo. Dude just seems like Kam part two. Same size, weight, even school. Last name even means “the devil” (even though its spelled differently). Hopefully they can trade down into early third and get a fourth. If we can up with 3 picks in rounds 3-4 its not to bad. Also attack UDFA as well. Also remember if Taylor ends up playing he is basically a 2021 draft pick as well.
Such great work – thanks for what will likely become a great reference list for future years when we look back at what might have been instead of the signing a $22 million box safety. It’ll be fun when the Seahawks again deserve having a fan as dedicated as Rob.
Well said
Absolutely awesome as always Rob – massive thank you for your dedication. My favourite time of the year, such a shame we have such a small amount of draft stock, seems like a great draft to pick in the 50-90 range as many times as possible!
Jets might as well do the same with Wilson…
Hawks might as well do the same with Wilson…
Would it be savage of the Hawks to send him a fake Bears playbook right after the 19th pick is made?
That’d be pretty funny
1) This is incredible Rob. Wow.
2) Reading this, knowing we have basically just 2 picks makes me want to throw something through my computer screen.
That’s the frustrating thing about Rob’s research this year. So many good players in this year’s draft at positions of need and the Hawks with a bare minimum of picks. All those players listed in the above article are exhibit A in the damning trial of Pete and his unchecked power.
Hard to get excited about the draft at present. I’m just hoping we come up with one true starter with the picks we’ve got, and also hoping for a few good projects amongst the UDFA’s.
Good survey of the potentials.
Rob – the content you continue to put on this site is amazing. Thank you so much for all your hard work.
Thanks Rob, excellent article.
I would like Seahawks to pick OT/Center, WR/DL, CB/RB if we just pick 3 times in same order. Back of my mind still praying at least we trade Adams for bounty may be we find someone as crazy as Hawks.
I’m cool with passing on drafting a TE this year if we can draft Jalen Wydermyer out of A&M next year or whenever he enters the draft.
100% I am totally on the Wydermyer hype train! He was my favorite aggie last year and made play after play after play. He was Mond’s security blanket.
I’d rather have Wydermyer than Pitts.
His style of play, he always wins contested catches.
Spiller is better than any RB in this current draft class IMO. Big time player.
Isaiai Spiller and Ainias Smith will be fun to watch next year. Both had an impact in 2020…and watch out for the freshmen this year!
Another player I hope the Seahawks are keeping tabs on for next year is McKenzie Milton (QB), the FSU transfer out of UCF. He has a ton of potential coming off that surgery in 2018. If we can’t get Mond this year Milton could be a good consolation prize.
Topic of the day appears to be moving Marquise Blair to Corner.
Why?
This seems to be akin to the idea of playing Darrell Taylor at SAM.
“We have depth at this position, and not much depth at this other position. Let’s see if we can wedge a guy we already have into another position.”
*Outside Corner
Awful
When Michael Bumpus is the first in on something, that’s your first clue that you might want to rethink your strategy.
They do this too much. Watching Blair in college, he was always a better hitter than a tracker of the ball in the air. They make tackles guards and guards centers and safeties corners and what have you. They always seem to think their seeing something no one else is.
Whatever. Hope it works out if we keep Adams.
Don’t forget rookie TE to rush the passer.
Or tackles as jumbo tight ends
which suggests Adams is not leaving…
I’m surprised they didn’t move him at SAM.
I think for Adams, SAM will be ideal spot. He can set edge and go for QB plus he will not liability on coverage
Only problem is, he can’t set the edge.
2 first round picks and $18m a year for a SAM
A first round pick for a WILL
A market busting contract for MIKE
3 UDFA’s and Al Woods for the interior
Makes perfect sense to me
I will trade Adams if any team gives me reasonable offer in a heart beat. But we can just hope and pray for it. JS/PC may try justify their trade and keep him on the roster in that case he might be better at SAM.
He won’t be.
He already has ripped a shoulder hanging around the edges part time. Asking him to do that full time won’t work.
Right! Just a disaster waiting to happen. Please sign KJ to be our SAM this year. The dude played lights out in that position last year and we need him there to stop Kyler in his tracks!
I tend to agree. However to be fair, some of their random darts on the board sometimes work out. Red Bryant to be the ultra big 5 tech. Irvin to Sam when they knew he couldn’t be a full time Leo. If it’s about finding positions for guys to find a home then it’s not horrible… Certainly understandable. Don’t know if Blair can play outside. We know he has length and speed. Taylor played OLB in college. It’s not a huge stretch for Taylor but Blair it might be. Blair struggled with zone concepts when he was a rookie so who knows? He did well covering in college but he wasn’t asked to cover WRs all time. Will be interesting what happens.
Hey I’m just here to watch them draft Brady Christensen at 56 and convert him to a DT 🥴
The next Justin Britt. New position every season… 🙁
Whatever it takes to justify the Adams trade and soon to be too large contract………imo of course
Thanks so much for this in-depth look, Rob.
Is it wrong that I hope it becomes partially outdated because they trade Adams for a high enough pick that you would need to look at some of the people you suggested won’t be available for them? 😉
But seriously, this is so clearly and convincingly laid out, I love it.
Seahawks wanted Gio Bernard…
https://twitter.com/JennaLaineESPN/status/1381720609135165440
Seattle should sign Jules. There’s WR3.
This also says the Seahawks have little faith in their RB depth
Which we already knew was likely because it’s crap — but a LOT of people assumed that was nailed
Like so many areas of this roster, it isn’t
It sure would be fun to have Myles Gaskin instead of Homer. Although Myles isn’t a great pass protector he wouldn’t stonewalled or sent backwards as frequently as Homer.
Idk anything about how Gaskin has been but pass pro is the last thing to dog Homer for
Sorry my wording was poor. I was implying Homer would be the superior pass protector but Gaskin the superior runner and pass-catcher.
I was fan of Myles coming out of draft, since i watch lot of Washington football games. What’s funny is Miami and Seattle exchange RB from their respective college. It’s does not ends there, we did again last year. Ahmed RB, I liked him a lot too. No superstar but runs hard.
Dallas and Homer don’t give me a whole lot of faith in our RBs. I still scratch my head at those 2 picks.
I agree with Tom, both Dallas and Homer looks like a backup / special team player to me.
So many question marks remain-and worse still, not a lot of readily apparent answers in view out there on the horizon. My discomfort with depth at RB being not the least of these issues. Penny at the 2nd spot is my biggest source of uneasiness. If Carson were a total iron man, I’d probably be more okay with Alex Collins as a back up and Penny as that big overpaid question-mark that he looks like to me.
Now, I love Carson as much as the next 12, but we all know that the likeihood of his missing significant time is not inconsiderable. And Penny’s frustrating promise of potential is starting to give me ‘Prosise Deja-Vu’. Homer and Dallas have yet to show me much more than special teams value and/or practice squad level ability. Not players you really want to go into a tough game with as your starter.
Let’s hope facing down a make-or-break season lights a fire under Penny, and he starts to realize some of his potential. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping better health, a more suitable system, and having his career on the Line will ‘make the penny drop’ for him.
And still hoping JS finds a way to garner a significant increase in draft stock, though there are better places to spend that than running back. 🤞🙄
I thought he would be a nice addition as well. Tampa Bay seems to agree. Great hands, and would add an element the Seahawks don’t really have, with his catching skill out of the backfield. I know they have used Carson more in that way, but it’s not his strength.
I was wondering if you think this is telling us something about Penny. Is he not going to be a factor for us this year? I know what Carson is good for.
I think Penny’s a write-off.
I know there are a lot of fans holding out hope for him in Waldron’s system or that he’ll deliver something at last. I think we’re just going through the motions here towards his inevitable departure.
There’s a reasonable chance had they signed Bernard they might’ve just cut Penny.
I think I’m one of those who’s holding out hope. He’s shown some flashes, but wasn’t anything truly special. That was before he tore his ACL. I know that it’s not realistic that he turns into a feature back, but if there is any chance then it’ll be this year.
Thanks for the great write up Rob! Looks like you did a lot of work on these guys.
When I saw the cost (if I read it right) of Penny’s option year, that sunk it-too much for a player that has yet to deliver substantial production over mere hints at potential.
Great work Rob. Looking forward to seeing if the Hawks draft any of these players, and more importantly what they will do (besides trading down) to aquire more draft stock.
I’ll be pretty bummed if no trades happen, and they only trade down from their current pics.
Giovanni Bernard? Seriously! Ugh.
John Clayton says
“The Seahawks have had an excellent offseason. They got better at defensive end. They got better along the offensive line. They have depth at cornerback. They were able to get tight end Gerald Everett and re-sign running back Chris Carson.”
I can’t understand, are we talking about same seahawks 🤔. For a change you can be honest with your fans. Yes we screwed up by trading Adams which we have done in past more than once.
Stop listening to Clayton. He is daft and no longer in touch with the team.
Cue the J. Jonah Jameson laugh from Spider Man
I don’t follow what you’re saying here….Those were all good moves. Are you just trying put down Clayton? The Hawks have had a good off season but they need to do more. John have said said some really daft and arrogant things about the Hawks the last couple of years… Sometimes I can’t stand him either but he say anything wrong here? Or are you saying trading Adams would make it a good off season?
Oh, yeah-I got so into my rant that I forgot to state the obvious: Rob, you really kicked some butt on that posting!
Great post!
Shameful they are going into a draft with the least amount of picks of any team this century. The only way that’s worth it is if you go to the Super Bowl (and win) or you only have two picks in the entire draft but they’re both in the 1st round. They’re so close minded when it comes to long-term success. They nailed it when they took over all those years ago but now they obviously don’t care about the future anymore (and forgot what made them great in the first place).
Prediction: They trade a 2nd round pick away next year to acquire an early 3rd round pick this year.
I can’t see it
Why do the Seahawks especially pay attention to the Senior Bowl?
You’ll have to ask them
LJ Collier babeeeee! I mean if he doesn’t perform well there they don’t reach for him and garner his 3 sacks or whatever it was last year
Whenever you get a chance to acquire an overaged bad athlete in the Draft – you take him.
Especially when you can get him in round 1
Kendrick Green:
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1381718499542892548
This Thursday… 9am PST
Live stream with the one and only… Tony Pauline
Very nice. Great to see you getting the opportunities u deserve
Kudos on the column Rob, and congrats on the Tony Pauline spot. You’ve simply earned it as your due, in my humble estimation.
A quick note — it’s my stream and I’ll be interviewing Tony (as I do every year)
I just wanted to make people aware in case you want to watch it live
If not live, DEFINITELY the replay
Cannot wait for this. Just one of the highlights of the SDB draft season.
Decided to do a 4/13/2021 PFN Mock to have fun with Rob’s great write up.
Wanted to stay close as possible to Rob’ board for players; To try to keep it real.
No uneven trades. Draft tech Jimmy Johnson value.
If trades unrealistic, didn’t accept.
Grabbed one of Rob’s sleeper late picks @ DT
I had D’Ante & Shi Smith slip to 4th round.
Could sub other tackle at 103. Other WR at 123
Final results below.
But oh if only possible I’d be happy.
2021 draft after trades
88. Brady Christensen T/G/C
92. Kedrick Green C/G
103. D’Ante Smith OT
123. Shi Smith WR
124. Ambry Thomas CB
244. Marquiss Spencer DT/DE
246. Jake Funk RB
Seahawks 2022 picks after trades
Sea) 2nd
Sea) 3rd
Sea) 4th
Jets) 4th
Det) 4th
Sea) 7th
Anybody have a take on the haul that Shaquille Griffen reeled in? I may not feel totally confident in the CB position group at present, but I’m kinda glad we didn’t shell out that kind of dosh.
He is getting paid way too much. There wasn’t a lot of choices in free agency for a team looking for a CB. I’m not seeing much chance in getting a shut down corner in the draft either. They’re getting a guy who can reasonably shut down a #2 receiver, but not a #1. He’s getting paid like CB who can shut down top receivers. I’m not sure if they expect him to be better, or if they know what they’re getting and are happy with someone who can put up some resistance, even if he can’t stop them outright. They should’ve just paid Jalen Ramsey.
This guy now sits next to Schefter on ESPN to talk about the draft:
https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1381706258760265732
So not only has he produced no real draft insight of note, is mostly infamous for calling Russell Wilson the worst pick in the 2012 draft…
He now doesn’t know anything about Edelman’s career. I mean… you don’t have to be a Pats fan to know Edelman was NOT an 11-year go-to target for Brady.
By this logic, there’s probably a dozen Pats that are now shoe-ins. Brady just driving the bus.
“is mostly infamous for calling Russell Wilson the worst pick in the 2012 draft…”
Geez I was expecting this to be Bill Polian
ESPN has been about failing up for the better part of a decade. I legit haven’t watched ESPN or even gone to their website in years.
The only person I like is Scott Van Pelt.
I am really looking forward to the next Michael Bumpus Seahawks roster solution!
First we move Blair to CB.
Now, Freddie Swain is ready to be the legit WR3
I guess it’s inevitable that Cody Barton is a hidden roster gem.
Aaron Rodgers hopes Barton plays when Seattle and GB face off this next season
Scotch-taping the roster together
We need to stop talking about these topics as ‘legit’ solutions and start talking about the state of the roster for 2021 and upcoming seasons.
At least we do if we want a serious conversation about the Seahawks — which I acknowledge many wish not to embrace
Rob – you apparently didn’t get the memo. Journalism/Reporting is about acting as PR for the very thing you’re supposed to cover. Surprised you didn’t know that!
Lack of draft capital and expiring contracts, as well as draft busts like Penny (likely) and Collier (for sure) and Barton (ditto) says the “state of the roster” is not good, especially for 2022 and beyond.
God i hope this is a rumor
I mean we moved him to corner last offseason as well, as a nickel. If they really won’t trade Adams and Reed is locked in at nickel why not try Blair at outside corner. Otherwise his position will be bench warmer.
in all fairness, he can start at safety when adams is hurt….
Russell posts a hype workout video where he has a Seahawks helmet on.
cue Seahawks Twitter losing their minds.
Apparently all is well….
So, so thirsty.
People dying of thirst in the desert are known to be fooled by a mirage.
Just sayin’
Well said, Big Mike.
What was it Judge Judy used to say? Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
Well he’s only been here about 10 years, he shouldn’t be having only Seahawks equipment at home…
Kipper with new mock up. His R1 trades and picks aren’t half bad, R2 starts to get off the rails.
He’s got Hawks picking…drum roll….Ossai!
Also worth noting Dyami Brown at 38, Tutu Atwell at 49, St-Juste at 61..
Lol- Kipper
I actually thought you did that on purpose and loved it.
And btw, Mel’s OK.
James Conner to Cards.
That’s a solid dude right there. Good for the Cardinals.
When healthy, for sure.
Now more likely to see Javonte Williams to the stealers in the draft? 🙁
awesome post
So another season of no in-person off-season workouts. While the vets will probably be fine, tough sledding for rookies and 2nd year guys needing those team reps for development.
I was playing around with PFF mock draft simulator and noticed a Center by the name of Drew Dalman out of Stanford. I noticed that he was either undrafted or 7th round. I also noticed he has given up zero sacks in 3 years. I’m not sure if that’s a misprint. Is there any talk of him being a sleeper?
Did you read the article???
He just seems like Joey Hunt 2.0. We need a Mack truck at center.
Hmmmmm, Meinerz fits that bill it seems. A shame we don’t have more draft picks so we could go get him. There is a way to add picks though…………..
Big Mike, my man, great minds think alike! Yes to both your thoughts there…make it happen John!
Why do we need more draft picks to select Meinerz? Can’t we just pick him?
I believe that the expectation is that he will be selected before our first pick.
So we would need an earlier (additional) pick.
Or multiple later additional picks to use to trade up in the draft.
Oh, I see. I have a feeling he’ll be there for us. Centers and guards just generally don’t go early after the first few top-tier guys. I know he had a good Senior Bowl, but he’s also played at the smallest of small school competition and hasn’t really played center, meaning for now he’s probably guard-only.
But I also feel that even if he’s there we wouldn’t take him. First, we’ll probably trade back to pick up an extra pick unless there is a home run left on the board. Second, I really don’t think we go interior OL with our pick for some reason. Maybe Creed Humphrey. But if he’s gone, think we could go CB/WR and just hope Pocic improves or was hurt last year. Should be interesting.
1. Why do you think they will take a corner that early? They’ve never done that
2. Meinerz isn’t just a center. You could play him at guard. Good luck finding another guy who is 320 with 33 inch arms with his level of explosive traits. Small school or not guys like him just don’t last very long
The Seahawks will be lucky if he’s there for them
I couldn’t agree more on Mond. Every time he is available in a mock I think “protect Russ or Russ insurance”. I always go with insurance. I don’t feel the same way about Mills or Trask. With out the 2nd round trade down, the rest of the draft becomes meh.
Thanks Rob.
This was a wonderful compilation. So dang strange that a team that states it values having draft picks for the draft trade them all away for a few guys.
At the time trading this years 6th rd pick to get a WR that wasn’t fast enough to play to WR, and would have been available as an RFA, so you could convert him to to TE, seemed silly. But boy were we wrong when we converted him to DE, and even played him there for a game despite having not the played the position since high school. After an amazing story like that what else could you besides cut him, leave him off your practice squad, and not invite him back next season. That’s forward thinking smart draft strategy right there.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31231666/texas-aggies-qb-kellen-mond-upside-intriguing-day-2-option
It will be interesting to see if Mond falls and we’re looking at another RW story. A leader with talent who by all rights should be taken in the first two rounds.
Wilson continues to be off-putting in massive ways. I want him gone.
Because he is hosting a vaccination show?
Kiper might not be wrong. Ossai’s #’s are freaky stuff. That broad jump # is off ball/hybrid LB’s stuff. Dont have the 3 cone or SS on him, but everything else is comparable (actually better) than TJ Watt’s.
That 1.58 10 yard split is right in their wheelhouse, no?
His effort on the field is second to none. Kid plays hard. Has a nose for the ball. Great backstory. Big #’s, the OK St game is incredible. Not the most fluid guy, but I absolutely think you could put him or Taylot at SAM. Just like speed, can never have too many guys to get after the QB.
I added him to the preview for the testing numbers but they passed on Watt/Bowser and they may well pass on Ossai.
When they take a DE — even one with the potential to play SAM — it’s always that bendy, twitchy edge who bends the arc and explodes with a sudden burst to the QB. We’ve seen Irvin, Clark and Taylor do that on tape.
That’s not Ossai. He’s clearly an exceptional athlete but you wouldn’t call him bendy, lean and dynamic as an EDGE.
I guess I can see us struggling for a couple games to adjust, but for the entire 2nd half of the season? Do you all think it’s more Russ having a tough time adjusting or the WRs… or the OC and that’s why he’s now gone?
https://twitter.com/BradyHenderson/status/1382101641202073600
I think Carroll takes a chunk of blame. I think he took authority on the offense when things went wrong, dictated how they wanted to play and it created a weird environment where the QB and OC and HC weren’t on the same page.
That’s not conducive with success or adjusting sufficiently.
That makes sense. The “philosophical differences” they cited when parting ways with Schotty seem to point to the same.
Also those words from Tyler, “why would we ever stop playing like that?” sound to me like exactly something PC would say, wanting to just double down on his convictions about our “identity” even when it’s no longer working.
Hopefully the Waldron hire is at least an implicit admission on Pete’s part that his offense needs some fresh ideas.
But I also feel it’s strange that Schotty is now on his 5th NFL team. Could it be fair to think he is good at play design but bad at game planning and in-game adjustment, which eventually leads to failure once teams figure him out?
Hawks taking a look at Aldon:
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1382311495858540547?s=21
Good.
They need all the help they can get in the pass rush
Shame they didn’t realise that a year ago. They could’ve saved themselves a wasted second and third round pick
Agree with Rob. This would be a nice signing if it comes to fruition.
I’ve added a couple of new names to this article.