Three-round mock draft & Seahawks seven round mock

The future of Doug Baldwin could impact Seattle’s draft

It was interesting to see another report on the NFL Network this week discussing the future of Doug Baldwin. There were a few hints at the end of the regular season that he might call it a career. Recently that talk has intensified.

Ian Rapoport mentioned something that was brought up a couple of weeks ago. This is a very different team now. Many of Baldwin’s closest friends have moved on or retired. It’s a new locker room and perhaps, along with the injuries, that is playing into Baldwin’s thinking.

If the Seahawks believe he will retire — wide receiver becomes a much greater need. It was a need anyway because Baldwin isn’t likely to play for another 3-4 years. But if he’s not with the team in 2019 it increases the need to support Tyler Lockett and Russell Wilson with another key weapon in the passing game.

It also makes you wonder if the official-30 visit with Jace Sternberger is any kind of indicator too. He’s currently much more of a receiving tight end than a blocker. Losing Baldwin would be a big deal — in the red zone, on third down, in general play. He won’t be easily replaced by one player. It might take a couple.

I was planning on doing a three-round mock draft anyway but I’m going to use this story to represent the possibility of a bigger need at receiver. I’ll have a few notes on Seattle’s picks below and a seven-round Seahawks projection. I’ve only included trades involving the Seahawks to avoid the mock becoming overly complicated with teams in various rounds switching places.

First round

#1 Arizona — Kyler Murray (QB, Oklahoma)
#2 San Francisco — Nick Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
#3 New York Jets — Josh Allen (EDGE, Kentucky)
#4 Oakland — Quinnen Williams (DT, Alabama)
#5 Tampa Bay — Devin White (LB, LSU)
#6 New York Giants — Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
#7 Jacksonville — T.J. Hockenson (TE, Iowa)
#8 Detroit — Ed Oliver (DT, Houston)
#9 Buffalo — Noah Fant (TE, Iowa)
#10 Denver — Drew Lock (QB, Missouri)
#11 Cincinnati — Dwayne Haskins (QB, Ohio State)
#12 Green Bay — Christian Wilkins (DT, Clemson)
#13 Miami — Jonah Williams (G, Alabama)
#14 Atlanta — Montez Sweat (EDGE, Mississippi State)
#15 Washington — Daniel Jones (QB, Duke)
#16 Carolina — Andre Dillard (T, Washington State)
#17 New York Giants (via CLE) — Dexter Lawrence (DT, Clemson)
#18 Minnesota — Jawaan Taylor (T, Florida)
#19 Tennessee — Clelin Ferrell (DE, Clemson)
#20 Pittsburgh — Devin Bush (LB, Michigan)
#21 Kansas City (via SEA) — D.K. Metcalf (WR, Ole Miss)
#22 Baltimore — Parris Campbell (WR, Ohio State)
#23 Houston — Cody Ford (T, Oklahoma)
#24 Oakland (via CHI) — Byron Murphy (CB, Washington)
#25 Philadelphia — Brian Burns (EDGE, Florida State)
#26 Indianapolis — Terry McLaurin (WR, Ohio State)
#27 Oakland (via DAL) — Greedy Williams (CB, LSU)
#28 LA Chargers — Kaleb McGary (T, Washington)
#29 Arizona (via SEA, KC) — Marquise Brown (WR, Oklahoma)
#30 Green Bay (via NO) — A.J. Brown (WR, Ole Miss)
#31 LA Rams — Jeffery Simmons (DT, Mississippi State)
#32 New England — Will Grier (QB, West Virginia)

Second round

#33 Seattle (via ARI) — N’Keal Harry (WR, Arizona State)
#34 Indianapolis (via NYJ) — Rock Ya-Sin (CB, Temple)
#35 Oakland — Irv Smith Jr (TE, Alabama)
#36 San Francisco — Justin Layne (CB, Michigan State)
#37 New York Giants — Johnathan Abram (S, Mississippi State)
#38 Jacksonville — Josh Jacobs (RB, Alabama)
#39 Tampa Bay — Lonnie Johnson (CB, Kentucky)
#40 Buffalo — Erik McCoy (C, Texas A&M)
#41 Denver — Dawson Knox (TE, Ole Miss)
#42 Cincinnati — Dre’Mont Jones (DT, Ohio State)
#43 Detroit — L.J. Collier (DE, TCU)
#44 Green Bay — Chris Lindstrom (G, Boston College)
#45 Atlanta — Josh Oliver (TE, San Jose State)
#46 Washington — Deebo Samuel (WR, South Carolina)
#47 Carolina — Darnell Savage (S, Maryland)
#48 Miami — Chase Winovich (EDGE, Michigan)
#49 Cleveland — Greg Little (T, Ole Miss)

#50 Minnesota — Jerry Tillery (DT, Notre Dame)
#51 Tennessee — Trysten Hill (DT, UCF)
#52 Pittsburgh — Juan Thornhill (S, Virginia)
#53 Philadelphia (via BAL) — Garrett Bradbury (C, NC State)
#54 Houston (via SEA) — Dru Samia (G, Oklahoma)

#55 Houston — Isaiah Johnson (CB, Houston)
#56 New England (via CHI) — Kahale Warring (TE, San Diego State)
#57 Philadelphia — Marquise Blair (S, Utah)
#58 Dallas — Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (S, Florida)
#59 Indianapolis — Taylor Rapp (S, Washington)
#60 LA Chargers — Bobby Okereke (LB, Stanford)
#61 Kansas City — Deandre Baker (CB, Georgia)
#62 New Orleans — Dalton Risner (T, Kansas State)
#63 Kansas City (via LAR) — Joe Jackson (DE, Miami)
#64 New England — Zach Allen (DE, Boston College)

Third round

#65 Arizona — D’Andre Walker (EDGE, Georgia)
#66 Pittsburgh (via OAK) — Emmanuel Hall (WR, Missouri)
#67 San Francisco — Amani Hooker (S, Iowa)
#68 New York Jets — Elgton Jenkins (C, Mississippi State)
#69 Jacksonville — Jachai Polite (EDGE, Florida)
#70 Tampa Bay — Jaylon Ferguson (EDGE, Louisiana Tech)
#71 New York Giants — forfeited (supplemental draft)

#72 Denver — Deionte Thompson (S, Alabama)
#73 Cincinnati — Mack Wilson (LB, Alabama)
#74 New England (via DET) — 
Christian Miller (EDGE, Alabama)

#75 Buffalo — Hakeem Butler (WR, Iowa State)
#76 Green Bay — Anthony Nelson (DE, Iowa)
#77 Washington — Joejuan Williams (CB, Vanderbilt)
#78 Carolina — Jace Sternberger (TE, Texas A&M)
#79 Miami — Nasir Adderley (S, Delaware)
#80 Atlanta — Tytus Howard (T, Alabama State)
#81 Cleveland — Julian Love (CB, Notre Dame)
#82 Minnesota — J.J. Arcega-Whiteside (WR, Stanford)
#83 Tennessee — Trayvon Mullen (CB, Clemson)
#84 Pittsburgh — Renell Wren (DT, Arizona State)
#85 Seattle — Charles Omenihu (DE, Texas)
#86 Baltimore — Michael Jordan (G, Ohio State)

#87 Houston — Damien Harris (RB, Alabama)
#88 Chicago — Maxx Crosby (DE, Eastern Michigan)
#89 Detroit (via PHI) — Nate Davis (G, Charlotte)
#90 Indianapolis — Khalen Saunders (DT, Western Illinois)
#91 Dallas — Ed Alexander (DT, LSU)
#92 LA Chargers — Drew Sample (TE, Washington)
#93 Seattle (via KC) — Marvell Tell III (S, USC)
#94 New York Jets (via NO) — Miles Boykin (WR, Notre Dame)
#95 LA Rams — Connor McGovern (G, Penn State)
#96 New York Giants (via NE) — Chuma Edoga (T, USC)
#97 Washington — Ben Banogu (EDGE, TCU)
#98 New England — Bobby Evans (T, Oklahoma)
#99 Jacksonville — Riley Ridley (WR, Georgia)
#100 LA Rams — Justice Hill (RB, Oklahoma State)
#101 Carolina — Miles Sanders (RB, Penn State)
#102 New England — Mecole Hardman (WR, Georgia)
#103 Baltimore — Oshane Ximines (EDGE, Old Dominion)

General notes on the draft

— I think this mock represents three likely ‘runs’. Initially we’ll see a run on the top defensive linemen. At the end of the first round and start of the second I think we’ll see a run on receivers. Then we’ll see a run on tight ends.

— Three fits I like are Emmanuel Hall to Pittsburgh (with the pick acquired in the Antonio Brown trade), Christian Miller to New England (as an eventual replacement for Kyle Van Noy) and Kyler Murray to Arizona because he’s the most talented player in the draft by a stretch.

— The Seahawks will want to trade down. They have one big thing working in their favour. Draft position. Being ahead of Baltimore is an advantage. Neither team has a second round pick so both will likely want to move down. By being ahead of the Ravens, the Seahawks are the team you talk to first. Plus, Baltimore has clear, defined and obvious needs at receiver and interior O-line. Whether it’s a center (Erik McCoy or Garrett Bradbury), guard (Cody Ford) or receiver (pick any of about 5-6 options) — teams with similar needs will fear who the Ravens might take.

Notes on the Seahawks

— The first trade down sees Kansas City jumping ahead of the Ravens to take D.K. Metcalf. The Chiefs have an issue to resolve concerning Tyreek Hill. Metcalf’s deep-speed and size would be an ideal match for Patrick Mahomes. According to Tony Pauline the Ravens are very interested in Metcalf. The Chiefs have two second round picks so they might be willing to part with their third rounder. They also own two sixth round picks and might be willing to add one to sweeten the deal. That would give the Seahawks six picks instead of four.

— The second trade down involves the Cardinals. You might argue teams in the same division won’t trade with each other. However, that’s exactly what happened two years ago when the 49ers gave the Seahawks a fourth round pick to move from #31 to #34 so the Niners could select Reuben Foster. If the Cardinals get a chance to reunite Kyler Murray and Marquise Brown they should take it. In this scenario they jump ahead of the Green Bay Packers to make sure it happens, giving the Seahawks a fourth rounder (and seven picks in total):

R2 (#33)
R3 (#85)
R3 (#93)
R4 (#104)
R4 (#125)
R5 (#160)
R6 (#216)

— I was torn on the first pick of N’Keal Harry. The Seahawks have only drafted two receivers who ran slower than a 4.4. One was a seventh round flier (Kenny Lawler) and the other was Chris Harper (a fourth round pick who ran a 4.50). They clearly value quickness and the one big concern I have with Harry is acceleration and suddenness. He’s not going to sprint downfield on a go-route and win with pure speed. That’s something they’ve consistently sought even from their bigger receivers. Harry is more of a possession receiver with surprisingly good YAC ability for his size.

— The reason I paired him with Seattle is for two reasons. One, he’s still a tremendous athlete with a fantastic looking frame. There may be some untapped potential and we know the Seahawks want to develop upside first and foremost with their top pick. Pete Carroll has wanted a dynamic big target for a long time and Harry has the size to fill that role. Two, he has exceptional character and a competitive spirit. Harry is close friends with Washington cornerback Byron Murphy and they’re both very similar personalities. Teams will have zero concern about either players’ will to succeed. Harry had an official-30 visit with the Seahawks recently.

— Having taken a receiver with their first pick it was vital to focus on defense with the two third round selections. It appears the Seahawks want a base-end type to start across from Frank Clark. There are several options. Remember — previously the Seahawks have drafted players with length and excellent short shuttle times. In this class the likes of Zach Allen, Anthony Nelson, John Cominsky, Charles Omenihu and Kingsley Keke fit that profile. I’ve gone with Omenihu here for his rare length (36 inch arms) and his 4.36 short shuttle at 280lbs. That’s a rare combination. N’Keal Harry would be an attempt to fill the void left by Doug Baldwin. Omenihu would be a replacement for Dion Jordan.

— It also appears the Seahawks are very keen to add a hybrid defensive back. Someone capable of playing big nickel, conventional nickel and safety. They’ve already met with Chauncey Gardner-Johnson and arranged official-30 visits with Juan Thornhill and Darnell Savage. They could easily draft this type of player with their first or second pick. They’ll work out the best way to address all their needs, they always do. If they leave this position to round three the options will be fairly thin but Marvell Tell remained on the board here. He has impressive height (6-2) and length (33 1/8 inch arms) and tested exceptionally well in the agility tests (6.63 three cone, 4.01 short shuttle). In the nickel position, short-area quickness and agility is vital. Tell is also high character and only really scratched the surface of his potential at USC.

— This projection doesn’t have the Seahawks taking a quarterback but that still remains a distinct possibility considering the uncertain future of Russell Wilson.

Seven round Seahawks mock

R2 (#33) — N’Keal Harry (WR, Arizona State)
If the Seahawks lose Doug Baldwin they’ll need to consider a high pick at receiver.

R3 (#85) — Charles Omenihu (DE, Texas)
He has the size and length to play base-end and his short shuttle (4.36) will appeal.

R3 (#93) — Marvell Tell (S, USC)
Fantastic agility testing and length makes him an appealing hybrid DB.

R4 (#104) — Armon Watts (DT, Arkansas)
Terrific length and power to anchor vs the run with plus pass-rushing upside.

R4 (#125) — Kaden Smith (TE, Stanford)
One of the few TE’s in this class to run a sub-7.10 three-cone.

R5 (#160) — Greg Gaines (DT, Washington)
The Seahawks are reportedly interested in Gaines.

R6 (#216) — Derrek Thomas (CB, Baylor)
A converted receiver, Thomas looked like a Seahawks corner at the combine.


  1. SamL

    I agree receiver is a big need and N’Keal Harry is a intriguing prospect though I think Debo Samuel is a better fit. He also has great YAC ability but is faster than Harry and good at getting separation. The Seahawks love to pick to the strength of the draft and at that range it’s probably receiver.

    • Kenny Sloth

      You may have a point about Samuel. If we want a big frame receiver there are definitely a few options in the first two days

  2. Brokenear

    Love this mock (favorite so far in terms of addressing immediate needs for 2019 season). Also LOVE this blog. Thanks Rob!

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks for reading

  3. Dog

    It will be a sad day when ADB calls it a career but you can certainly understand why he may pack it in now after (three?) post-season surgeries and a difficult 2018 campaign. From his perspective, he might be thinking how likely the Seahawks are to challenge for the SB next year. If he thought it was unlikely that might be what leads him to pack it in vs putting in a year that ends with a wildcard/early exit from the playoffs.

    Even considering that though, taking a WR with the first pick would be a departure from what we have seen from PCJS. I am still hoping they go D-Line with the first pick (assuming the trades work out this way) then find an offensive weapon with the 2nd pick.

    • Rob Staton

      They spent their first pick on a receiver in 2014 (Paul Richardson) a year after trading their first round pick for Percy Harvin. So it’s not really a departure for them.

    • AlaskaHawk

      I wonder if he would like to take a year off and heal up = then come back. He might be interested in a future deal.

  4. GoHawksDani

    Cool draft, I like it. Maybe get Boykin with the 3rd pick and Savage/Hooker/CGJ with the first one. Or Deebo with the first pick. Harry is an interesting WR too but I feel he’s really different than Doug.

  5. Josh

    I like, awesome mock imo! Thanks Rob!

    • Rob Staton


  6. Dale Roberts

    I like this seven round draft because it would be exciting to watch the players develop. My concern with Harry and Omenihu is that while they seem to have upside neither played to their physical potential in college. I like the additions of Watts and Gaines. Overall the question is can they wait this late to replace Coleman. It seems like there were more remaining options for WR than nickel/safety by the time our 3rd round pick arrived. Most impressive was your feel for the overall board. I really didn’t have a problem with where you slotted anybody. Really nice job.

    • Kenny Sloth

      I could definitely pick some nits with the ranges of some players, but that first round is soooo spot on.

      Top drawer stuff, really.

    • drewdawg11

      Harry played his tail off in college. They got him the ball in every way imaginable. His QB wasn’t all that consistent, but he was.

  7. Kenny Sloth

    Whoooaa Rob outta left field with Harry!

    After reading your discussions on the prospect w/ V12 i thought he wouldnt be a target for your projections!

    Fun read. You really try to get in the different front offices mindsets to project their picks.

    I really like Tell, Thomas, Gaines, and Smith

    • Rob Staton

      I still have reservations about the pick.

      • Hawkin

        I wonder where Preston Williams will go? He seems like the perfect hidden gem to target. I’d also like to know what you think of trading back once to select Trysten Hill instead?

        • Kenny Sloth

          Seems like an absolute tool to me.

          I think Trysten Hill will last until the third and I’d looove him in that range

        • Rob Staton

          Preston Williams will be an undrafted free agent.

          I’d recommend you check out my piece on Trysten Hill (should be easy to find on google).

          • JohnH

            Interesting on Preston Williams. Because of the off field stuff, the attitude, or the poor numbers at his pro day? I’ve seen folks saying he’s day 2-3.

            • Rob Staton

              It’s everything. Teams were already viewing him as an UDFA for the character concerns. Then he had a lousy pro-day. The guy has talent but he’s just the next in a long list of players who waste it.

      • Kenny Sloth

        As do I. He’s had a VMAC visit but JS is on the record as saying that he uses visits differently each year.

        Someone above mentioned Deebo Samuel as a potential alternate option and it’s a player I hadn’t really considered for us yet, but the more I think about it, the more appealing he would be next to Tyler Lockett stretching the defense vertically so he can work underneath.

        Harry looks soo raw

        • Kenny Sloth

          Still, one of your most thought provoking mocks. Which is kind of hard to do outside of the standard “here’s a bunch of names and why they’re good”

  8. EP

    That 2nd and 3rd round is so deep. Would be great to pick up 3 players in that range. Hopefully John Schneider has some dirt on his fellow GMs and fleeces them.

  9. charlietheunicorn

    I’m not a big fan of this guy, but I think he makes a valid point ….

    Alabama coach Nick Saban warned against all but the top-ranked players leaving early for the NFL draft, saying, “the person that loses in that is the player.”

  10. charlietheunicorn

    I think you pretty much nailed the #85 pick. I would be shocked if he wasn’t picked by Seattle.

    I think they will take one OL somewhere along the way however, which is why I keep mentioned Michael Jordan in the mid rounds. I don’t think you can count on 3 OGs with significant injury concerns and 1 OL who doesn’t seem to fit what the Seahawks are looking for in their OL crop (Procic).

    What is the old phrase, the number one attribute we should always look for in a football player… ability to be available every week to play ball.

  11. GerryG

    Great read, and solid value to the Hawks. This Baldwin saga is sad and will really force the issue if he retires. They will need lots of production from whatever rookie(s) they draft in the pass game. I really want one of the OSU players.

  12. Dale Roberts

    Given his first year of play there is reason to believe Naz Jones will be successful at the 5 tech spot but makes him a 2 down player? It seems like they’d be looking for more of a third down passer rusher than a run anchoring DE. After Brian Burns I don’t really see any natural pass rushers. The remaining DE’s such as Collier, Nelson, Jones, seem to be bulkier, run anchoring DE types.

    The exception might be Chase Winovich. While he doesn’t have a great TEF score (2.89) or length his 3-cone of 6.94 and short shuffle of 4.11 are exceptional for a 260 lb edge. Josh Allen ran a 7.15/4.23 combination @262lb and Montez Sweat ran a 7.00/4.29 @260lbs.

    A name I haven’t heard connected to the Hawks is John Cominsky. He’s a division II product but his numbers are undeniable. At 6’5″, 286lbs he ran a 7.03/4.38 combination and a 4.69 40. His TEF is 3.13 with a weighted TEF of 89.65. He’s raw and hasn’t had the elite coaching the power schools provide but he seems to have a ton of upside.

    • Rob Staton

      Naz Jones was on the periphery for most of last season.

      They’ve allowed Dion Jordan to walk and they haven’t replaced him. They’ve signed two lighter pass rushers in Nate Orchard and Cassius Marsh. They need a base-end.

      We’ve talked about Winovich a lot and he’s an ill-fit for Seattle. He’ll end up in Miami or NE.

      • Eburgz

        Q. Jefferson started the most games at DE opposite Clark, no real need to replace Jordan as he was mostly injured (I’d still like to bring him back). So we have Jefferson, Naz Jones & Rasheem Green battling for that base-end spot opposite Clark. I don’t see it as a huge need considering. But, I like Zach Allen and Jerry Tillery as potential upgrades at that spot with our first pick if we do go that direction. Omenihu is a great option for that in R3 but not sure he would usurp the guys on the roster for the starter spot.

        I think we’re a lot thinner at 3T. Reed played well there last year but him and Poona both have played more nose tackle. Tillery could play either spot (5T or 3T), not sure about Allen playing inside for a lot of snaps but both are versatile DL available in this mock that are worth considering.

        • Rob Staton

          They need a bookend for Clark. Jefferson and Naz Jones aren’t going to get the job done. Do people want a proper pass rush or not?

          They’re moving on from Jordan, who it seems they were counting on a bit last season, and he needs replacing. He was a pass rusher with size. That’s what they need at DE.

          In no way what so ever is the pass rush adequate at the moment. Finding someone dynamic who can rush the edge but also play solidly against the run is vital.

  13. H

    I’m pretty shocked by the Harry pick I got to be honest. If we’re replacing ADB I can’t get that clip of Deebo putting the move on the corner during the senior bowl goal line drill out of my head. That was vintage Doug, so Deebo would be the pick for me.

    Fantastic job on the mock as a whole though, grade A content as per.

    • Kenny Sloth

      +1 I kind of really want Deebo now.

      • D-OZ

        Harry for me …As a frosh I thought he had the best potential of any WO in CFB.
        Great work Rob, would love that draft. You are spot on in the type of DE we need.

  14. DCD2

    Doug would be giving up $9.25M-$10M this year if he retires (depending on per game roster bonus).

    • Dog

      Being able to walk when you are forty without pain?


      Doug has made some good coin and even though 9+ million is a LOT of money if you have “enough” you start thinking about other things.

      • Stephen Pitell

        Another big factor players consider is their legacy, and another year or two could propel Doug up the ladder of great WR’s for the Seahawks. Though I am personally a big fan of “enoughness”.

  15. AndrewP

    Omenihu is definitely an intriguing piece to me. Doesn’t quite have that initial explosion I’d love @DE, but, I can definitely see him getting countermove sacks in the NFL.

    I’m interested to see what their plan is for Rasheem Green moving forward. I know he had a relatively quiet rookie year, but, then again, so did Jarran Reed.

    I like Gaines and am intrigued by Watts, but, I’d love to get a mister DT prospect out of this draft (Saunders, Hill, Wren, etc.)

  16. Coleslaw

    Just for fun. My rankings of the receivers for the Seahawks specifically.

    1. D.K. Metcalf
    2. Marquise Brown
    3. Parris Campbell
    4. Deebo Samuel
    5. A.J. Brown
    6. Terry McLaurin
    7. N’Keal Harry

    IMO. I could switch McLaurin and Harry and be okay with it. And A.J. Brown probably should be #2 but the Hawks love the slot types like Brown, Campbell, Samuel and McLaurin.

    Plenty of options, even if we dont get one of these guys.

    • Dale Roberts

      I think Paris Campbell tops their receiver board. Campbell has the lighting that Percy Harvin had and he’s strong like Percy but Campbell has the leadership and attitude that Harvin obviously lacked. Reportedly Campbell “lived” on the jugs machine before the 2018 season. One more thing, Campbell met with the Seahawks and they have a history of meeting with their top picks prior to the draft.
      1. Paris Campbell
      2. N’Keal Harry
      3. Terry McLaurin

    • GerryG

      Hard pass on the Incredible Hulk with no lateral quickness for me (DK)

  17. Kenny Sloth

    Rob, I don’t remember you having a rreaction to Duane Brown’s comments about our R/P splits. Basically saying we focused too much on balance and didnt use Russ to his fullest perhaps.

    He was certainly careful to protect the team as you’d expect from the vet, but you have to imagine he has some sway in how the offense is developed.

    Did you make any comments on the run vs the pass back then? Or do you think we’ll run more than anyone in the league again

    • Rob Staton

      I’m just bored of the whole debate to be honest.

      Simply happy to watch the Seahawks and whatever brand of football their Super Bowl winning coach wants to roll with.

      • Kenny Sloth

        I heard that

    • TomLPDX

      Honestly, Brown’s comments were totally overblown. Media making something out of nothing.

      • Kenny Sloth

        I thought he was being careful and that there could something to his comments that represented how a lot of the offensive unit feel.

        Probably anything the media wants to attribute to that feeling is overblown, but you have to think that Brown has a voice that represents some of the team as he commands a lot of respect.

        He’s the kind of guy that can say something nobody else would but a lot of the room is thinking

      • Look Who's Hawkin?

        *Seahawks twitter making something out of nothing.

  18. Dale Roberts

    Connor Dorney of FanSided has the Hawks taking Johnathan Abram with their first pick qualified with the statement, “I get the sense that Abram is their top target as safety”. Frankly I can’t figure out where he got that sense. I understand Abrams highly rated and he’s a big hitter but I can’t find any indication he’s been on Seattle’s radar. What do you all think the order of preference for the Hawks choice of nickel/safety?

    I’ll venture a guess of:
    1. Byron Murphy
    2. Darnell Savage
    3. Gardner-Johnson
    4. Juan Thornhill
    5. Johnathan Abram
    6. Taylor Rapp
    7. Marquise Blair
    8. Nasir Adderly
    9. Amani Hooker

    • Rob Staton

      Who’s Connor Dorney?

      • Dale Roberts

        IDK, I was looking to elicit a reaction from the group regarding the Seahawk’s draft board. Abrams is the first safety off the board in your draft and I thought maybe I missed something regarding the Hawk’s interest in him.

    • GerryG

      I’ll read Bleacher Report before anything from Fansided

  19. John Uhrich

    Rob any thought on Trace Mccsorley QB Penn state

    • Rob Staton

      Disappointing end at Penn State. Limited pro-potential but worth a camp and a shot.

    • Barry

      I’d love to see him come in at camp. See what he has for a understanding as a slot WR. Possible ST player, maybe another fullback convert like Robinson …. ok that last part was a joke.

  20. Rob Staton

    Adam Schefter was on the Kiper/McShay mock show and again brought up a Wilson trade:

    Fast forward to 37:55. He brings it up there — and then again at 50:00.

    His reaction is somewhat interesting.

    Would love to be a fly on the wall in Seattle and know what’s really going on.

    • Zxvo3

      Do you think Schefter knows something we don’t?

      • Rob Staton

        I guarantee he does because he’s the most on-point, connected NFL reporter.

        He’s not usually one to speculate like this.

        • Nick

          Oh my heart! God this team has been something else while under PCJS.

        • Sean-O

          There were also the words “crazy”, “not likely” & “unthinkable” during those segments. I’ll be so glad once the deadline passes & the draft is here so we can start talking about other things.

          It could be a different story IF the Hawks had another capable QB on the roster. They don’t. He’s not going anywhere in ’19. ’20 could get interesting.

          • Rob Staton

            I’ve been adamant the Seahawks won’t trade Wilson before the draft. But that’s some mighty fine selective hearing if you’re suggesting Schefter was pouring cold water on Wilson trade speculation. He brings it up three times in an hour long special that is focused on a mock draft. They do a special segment at 50:00 that is just Schefter throwing it out there that a trade could happen. When the presenter suggests it’s unlikely he says, ‘nothing is unlikely in the NFL’ (or words to that effect).

            • mishima

              It was the tilt of the head gesture that spooked me. Like he was holding back.

              Schefter is funny, esp. with his new Clark Kent specs.

              • MyChestIsBeastmode

                I thought the same thing with that squinty smile. Ugh, damn are we going to shake up everything and roll with Lynch + some other competition at QB?

                Likely HOF QB in his prime – that’s gotta be at least 3 1sts and a couple 2nds right? Not saying a I am for or against but I am really curious to the over/under on the draft hall it would take to get him.

            • Dog

              The discussion about Murray possibly dropping–what if Arizona doesn’t take him? SF won’t either, could he make it to the NYG pick at 6? If so, there has to be a potential for a deal for Wilson there. OBJ leaving for Cleveland has left a big hole, and the elements might be in place. If I was the NYG GM, getting a franchise QB in Wilson to go with a great running game might be the ticket I would want to punch.

              • Rob Staton

                Kyler Murray will go #1. Book it. The Cards have let this run too far. Rosen’s credibility is shot in that locker room.

            • bigten

              I also found it interesting that they wouldnt entertain the idea of Raiders taking Murray if he slipped, but did entertain RW being traded.

              • Rob Staton

                I don’t think the Seahawks will trade Wilson but when Schefter talks I listen.

            • LouieLouie

              I think the Seahawks and RW can find common ground. Both would prefer to stay together. Both would like another crack (or three or four) at a ring. The nexus is the mix of guaranteed money with cap friendliness. If the Hawks don’t offer guaranteed money, they will have to pay a higher base salary. If Wilson is interested in guaranteed money, then he may be more open to a cap friendlier contract. He knows that if his contract sucks up too much cap space, more cracks at the ring become less likely (see Packers and Vikings). Hawks know the same thing if RW scrambles to somewhere else.

              • Rob Staton

                I hope you’re right but I think it’s more of a case of Wilson knows what he could potentially earn and he’s going for it. Which is his right. But both sides need to compromise.

        • Dale Roberts

          I don’t think it’s possible to get equal value for losing Wilson. It may happen but unless the QB we draft in 2020 turns into a top three QB we will lose in any trade scenario.

          • Rob Staton

            Not necessarily.

    • Hawksince77


      Thanks for posting the link and where to look. Very interesting.

      The logic of the situation demands consideration of a trade, if nothing else. It’s genuinely hard to seriously consider the possibility (much easier to speculate) of Seattle trading RW.

      Just wow.

    • Phil

      Just can’t see Jody Allen letting the greatest Seahawk QB of all time be traded by JS/PC over a $$ issue. Us old timers remember the search for the franchise QB and how fortuitous it was that RW was available, that PC/JS recognized his talents, and that we had a coach with the balls to start him over Matt Flynn. He would be very hard to replace at any cost. And, the negative reaction from a disenchanted fan base should it take years to once again escape from mediocrity that could result from a trade, would not be the way that the Allen family would like to be remembered.

      • Rob Staton

        Jody Allen will do whatever Pete Carroll wants to do.

  21. Zxvo3

    Rob and others, I do not remember the Seahawks draft patterns by memory, but has Seattle ever taken somebody with their top pick that they haven’t met with?

    • Rob Staton

      Yes. Or at least they’ve drafted players first that it was never revealed they met with.

  22. Max Morrison

    What are your thoughts on Hakeem Butler? I like his size/athleticism but not something Hawks usually go for at WR. You have him in the 3rd in this mock….. I’ve seen him projected in the 1st for some analysts. If he falls to 2nd/3rd do you not think he is good value there?
    Keep it coming Rob, love the blog.

    • Rob Staton

      Not a huge fan. Too many drops, wasn’t really enamoured with his effort during combine drills. Long strider who admittedly ran better than expected in the forty but he’s lean and I’m not sure he’s going to win many physical battles and I’m not sold on him being quick enough to make up for it.

      • Kenny Sloth

        You question the fight in that guy from the footage

        • CaptainJack

          I have to disagree on Butler, phenomenal player. Won’t produce much rookie year but by sophomore year should be around 800 receiving yards then up from there each year.

  23. Nick

    Omenihu in the third would be incredible value, but I fear it’s pretty optimistic. I love this mock — well constructed and I appreciate the analysis for certain picks.

  24. ZB

    I think I read somewhere that Harry was one of the best blocking WR’s as well.

  25. Frank

    Really love this mock draft. Harry blocks like a Te, 2 nice athletes at DB for PC to develop, some run stuffers up front to continue building a bully team with depth and toughness up front. I don’t personally see the Hawks going back to a receiving Te, and would rather they stayed with a brutish run blocker if they address the position or even go full back. Of course it would be great if we got to draft a Qb, But we have at least one more year to address the situation barring a trade, so really couldn’t hope for the hawks to accomplish any more than this mock draft. Pretty stoked to be discussing draft prospects instead of contract disputes!!!

  26. SamL

    Rob, I agree with you that a RW trade us very unlikely, but as Schefter said, possible. If a trade were to happen what do you think we would get as compensation? And what QB would you go after to replace him?

    • Rob Staton

      Not even going there Sam.

      But in the unlikely event he moves on I think they’d see what Indy wanted for Brissett and target Will Grier or, if possible, Kyler Murray.

  27. Greg Haugsven

    What do you guys think is a more important position to draft this year? That RDE spot (opposite Frank Clark) or the DT spot opposite of Jarran Reed. We potentially have the future RDE in Rasheem Greene and we may not. I like Poona Ford at DT but not sure he is a long time starter. Interesting debate that could be the Seahawks determining factor in which position they could go along the DLine.

    • Eburgz

      Just commented above that you could have both with Jerry Tillery. The guy is versatile with the size, athleticism, power and length to play 5T or 3T in our system.

      I think DE has better depth than DT all things considered. Would be great to get a guy that can play both.

      • Rob Staton

        DT and DE are equally deep this year. It’s EDGE where the well runs dry after the first couple of rounds.

    • GerryG

      I think they address both, but agree with Rob’s mock. Baldwin is coming three surgeries and may retire, kinda have to draft a wr first. The Baldwin ripple effect is massive imo.

    • Rob Staton

      They need competition/depth/talent at both positions.

  28. Awsi Dooger

    Daniel Jones moving way up the draft boards is hilarious. I realize it is the consensus trend and will probably play out that way.

    The league remains a sucker for quarterbacks who look the part, even if they offer virtually nothing other than paralyzing the sad franchise for many seasons.

    Let’s see…moderately rated recruit with awful pocket presence and who never managed above 6.8 YPA over a full season at Duke, with basically half of his games at 6.0 YPA or lower, often much lower.

    Oh sure, let me grab that gem as soon as possible. It was so obvious I watched every snap of his college career to talk myself into it.

  29. icb12

    Great mock.
    Love the Harry pick.

    Big fan of his. Reminds me of DeAndre Hopkins.
    Sure doesn’t appear as sudden on film, but he outperformed Hopkins in every category athletically. I think he’s only going to get better and better. Herm edwards had nothing but fantastic things to say, and I think herm is a straight shooter.

    • Rob Staton

      Not to be too negative about this but I really don’t see DeAndre Hopkins in Harry. Very different body types and styles. I was a huge Hopkins fan (see article below) and it’s easy to forget most people saw him as a R2 type. But I agree Herm is a straight shooter and clearly Harry has terrific character.

  30. Dale Roberts

    My projected Seattle draft based on need/attention/availability:

    1. LJ Collier – 2nd
    2. Juan Thornhill – 3rd
    3. Gary Jennings – 4th
    3. Josh Oliver – 4th
    4. Greg Gaines – 5th
    5. Drew Lewis – 6th
    6. Alec Ingold – 7th

    • Rob Staton

      Thornhill and Oliver will be long gone by the third/fourth.

      Some scouts are grading Oliver in R1. There’s top-42 talk for Thornhill.

  31. charlietheunicorn

    Perhaps the trade of RW is dependent on….. Murray not going #1 to the Cardinals.

    Then say, the Raiders ship several 1st round picks to Seattle and Seattle grabs Murray at #4.

    It could be this simple… if X happens, then Y happens.

    • GerryG

      He’s not going to the Raiders, you have to place all guarantees into an escrow account and they have zero cash apparently, it’s gonna take at least 100 million guaranteed to sign Wilson

  32. Trevor

    If the Hawks don’t trade or extend Russ and Frank this off season they should be all in on going for an SB as it makes zero sense otherwise. After the draft when it does not count against the comp pick equation use the cap space you have this year to extend Bobby, then sign Anzah and a Tony McDaniel type vet run stuffer to fill in the holes on defense while the young guys develop and go for broke.

    They they likely have 11 picks + a ton of cap space next of season as well to reload if things don’t work out.

  33. millhouse-serbia

    Heaps, who runs Wilson’s QB academy and thus is connected to Wilson’s circle, said, “There’s been really no movement on the contract side of things. … The conversation has been stale.”

    In 2015, Rodgers and Schneider reportedly had some acrimonious negotiations. They met five times as they worked out Wilson’s four-year, $87.6 million extension, which was completed just as training camp started.

    “But, at the end of the day, we knew what the deadline was. …. To Russell Wilson, it wasn’t an artificial deadline”Rodgers said in July 2015

    • millhouse-serbia

      When I combine this with Schefter’s “nothing imposible in NFL” chances for trade are increasing…

      • Rob Staton

        No, I won’t believe a trade until it happens. I think there’s still practically zero chance it happens before the draft.

        But I’ll also admit Schefter speaking the way he is gives me a reason to pause. He’s as connected as anyone and he’s not pouring cold water on this (and he poured a ton of cold water on Haskins to the Giants).

        • millhouse-serbia

          I have watched 3 times part where he said “nothing is imposible” and his face expression really look like he knows something…

          It is really really hard to believe that Russ could be traded but…

          • millhouse-serbia

            And he said anything is unlikely…but point is same…

  34. Jake

    I’ve been watching some David long CB from Michigan and came away two different conclusions.

    1: I really think David Long could nicely fill the role of Justin Coleman.

    2: When watching his OH state game #17 WR with Ohio st jumped off the screen IDK who this dude is, but he’s gonna be DOG next year and should be on our future radar as Doug Baldwin’s replacement.

    Has anyone else noticed this?

    • Bigten

      Olave is his name. Was a true freshman I believe. Will be interesting seeing fields throw to him and hill this year

    • Sea Mode

      Glad to see someone else mention Long. I mocked him to us two days ago:

      I was just going to post on him again because I found this:

      PFF Draft

      David Long leads all cornerbacks in terms of fewest yards allowed per snap in coverage this season

      6:43 AM – 8 Dec 2018

      • Coleslaw

        I posted on him last week lol nobody replied now his name is all over SDB.

        • Sea Mode

          Saw it. Sorry, maybe I just wasn’t up for the discussion at the moment. Sounds like you watched some games. What did you see?

          Coleslaw says:
          April 5, 2019 at 1:44 pm
          I kinda like David Long for the NCB spot. I know he doesn’t have 32 inch arms but hes extremely agile, which might make up for the lack of length. He handled Deebo Samuel. 1 on 1.

          But nah, he can still be one of “our guys”. You, me, clbradley17, and now Jake are the only ones to ever mention him in the comments here on SDB so far.

  35. millhouse-serbia

    In his 7 round mock draft Dane Brugler gabe us:

    21. Jerry Tillery ( but he said seahawks will try to trade back)
    84. Terry Mclaurin
    124. Jalen Jelks
    159. Marven Tell

    • Sea Mode

      Nice! I’m not a fan of Tillery (would rather have Simmons or Hill), but I love the McLaurin and Tell picks. Been mocking those two to us for a long time now!

  36. William Herold

    Nice to see Armon Watts mocked to the Hawks. He has stood out to me as a value day 3 pick that might have more potential left.

  37. AlaskaHawk

    That’s a long wait from #33 to #85. Even with trading down – those four initial picks hurts. I hope management will remember this as it is taking two years just to reset to normal draft mode.

    • DCD2

      No kidding. I wonder how far JS would be willing to trade down prior to making his first pick.

      • j

        NE could give us 64, 73, 98 for 33 after the above trade down with Arizona.

        Zach Allen, Christian Miller and Mecole Hardman would be a pretty good day two.

        • BobbyK

          New England is rarely the team that trades a bunch of picks for a singular pick. That’s part of the reason they’re so successful.

          • DCD2

            True. On paper they look like the best option because they have so many picks in the first 3 rounds (6). We have traded with them in the past as well. I don’t see them giving us a 2nd and 3rd rounder to move up though, even if the chart value lines up.

            What may end up happening is that we trade with a team that has already traded down once or twice. Say Denver wants to move up to get a QB and trades 10, 41, 71 to the Jets. NYJ moves down a few spots and has #41 and their original #68 (740 value) and our #21 is worth 800.

            Lots of ways things could break on draft day. I just wonder how far down we would be willing to drop in an effort to add more picks.

  38. Saxon

    Wow, you have Deionte Thompson falling to the third round. He was definitely overrated, but was he really that overrated? I’ll be surprised if he drops that low.

    • Rob Staton

      I was being generous.

      Always overrated and confirmed to be an average athlete now too.

  39. Madmark

    With your resources Rob I really would like for you to do a write up on Russel Wilson career with the Seahawks since he started and what he has done for this franchise. I see a future Hall of Famer and I wonder why people thinks Seattle would get rid of him. I’m positive that JS/PC will not let him leave here till they are done here. I also think it would ease the mood till a deal gets done.

    • DCD2

      Just go back and look at the comments from any number of the articles that Rob has already written on Russ. You’ll see peoples arguments for and against.

      Frankly, asking Rob to write an article about RW’s career with the Hawks is pretty ridiculous.

      We’ve talked this thing to death already. I think most are just wanting to talk about the draft until something does happen on the other front.

      • BobbyK

        Yep. Anything but more Russell Wilson contract talk.

        • Madmark

          I got ya I think and article from ROB could go a long ways in use thinking of other thing.

      • Madmark

        I just think I want Robs true view of his 7 year here in Seattle.

        • Rob Staton

          I think it’s been a tour de force. Breaking conventional wisdom, providing a level of excitement that Seahawks fans haven’t seen before. He’s the type of player that I think pretty much every NFL fan base would love to have.

          There’s something so satisfying about a team finding a franchise quarterback without simply spending the #1 overall pick on a great player. We were all able to take pride in the fact our GM and HC identified, drafted a trusted a star they plucked from the middle rounds. I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed a sporting rise like the Seahawks in 2012. Wilson legitimately felt like the final piece to an amazing puzzle.

          I also think Wilson is an ideal fit within Carroll’s system. I think his ability to throw beautiful deep passes into tight windows perfectly compliments the running game. I wish he was a little more consistent on third downs but I’m also willing to acknowledge he isn’t perfect and the pro’s far outweigh the cons.

          I hope he stays in Seattle for a career. I also see this next step as a huge challenge for player and team and it could go either way.

          • Nick

            Beautifully put.

  40. j

    NE could give us 64, 73, 98 for 33 after the above trade down with Arizona.

    Zach Allen, Christian Miller and Mecole Hardman would be a pretty good day two.

    • Sea Mode

      I mean, yes, it’s theoretically possible, but why would they want to trade up to 33 when they can just use pick 32 if they want someone that bad?

      A new trade partner that has emerged according to Schefter could be the Browns:

      Adam Schefter

      Browns’ GM John Dorsey, who traded Cleveland’s first-round pick for Odell Beckham Jr., is thinking about trying to trade back into first round.

      12:43 PM – 8 Apr 2019

      Tbh, I skipped through the interview to find that part and it was just an off comment by Dorsey at the end: “Who’s to say we won’t trade back into R1? My phone is open.” Schefter saying he is “thinking about trying to trade back into R1” is a little overstated IMO.
      (very end)

      Anyway, I can’t see Dorsey actually wanting to do it, but if he did, we could trade from R1P30 (after a first trade back) all the way back to R2P49 in exchange for R3P80 and R4P119.

      R1P30 = 196 pts.
      R2P49 (118 pts.) + R3P80 (56 pts.) + R4P119 (23 pts.) = 197 pts.

      • bigten

        If they have a safety they absolutely want, I could see them being aggressive. pick 30 could see the beginning of the run on safeties, and its a need for them.

        • bigten

          It would be pretty sweet if we could make the trade with the Cardinals first, and then send Cleveland the 33 for 49, 80, 155 (round5). say the run on safeties started and they are worried someone is gonna take THEIR guy. 4 day 2 picks would be pretty sweet.

  41. Volume12

    Digging this mock.

    I think one more day 3 name to keep our eyes on is Auburn DT Dontavius Russell. Would excel as a 2 down run-stuffing specialist. Did almost all the dirty work for a loaded Auburn front this year.

    • Sea Mode

      Funny, I was just watching Auburn vs. Ole Miss to check out more of AJ Brown in particular, and the DT that jumps of the screen is not Russell (though I understand he’s soaking up blockers; I was high on him early in the process), but sophomore Nick Coe. One to keep an eye on.

    • millhouse-serbia

      Is this him?

      • bigten

        I’m pretty sure that is not Dontavious Russell.

    • RWIII

      Auburn DT Dontavius Russell is definetly a two down tackle. Like the part about his strength, plugging the run, and he gives maximum effort on every down.

  42. millhouse-serbia

    Rob Rang on Jeffery Simmons:

    “He has met or plans to visit with several teams, with the Browns, Colts, Eagles, Jaguars and Seahawks among them”.

    • Sea Mode

      Dang it, u fast! 😉👍

      BTW, can you find some stats on PFF for least amount of drops for WRs?

    • CaptainJack

      I would love to draft him even if he requires a redshirt season. His upside is Such in his prime.

  43. Sea Mode

    Simmons to visit (or has already visited) Seahawks per Rob Rang. Yes!

    • RWIII

      Sea Mode: You never what JS/PC are up to. No one thought that last year the Hawks would take RashAad Penny in the first round.

      • Rob Staton

        We spent an entire draft season talking about the Seahawks taking a running back with their first pick.

  44. AlaskaHawk

    Thanks for giving your picks a west coast slant this time around. Sometimes it is tough to find good players, but you did a great job of identifying them. The Stanford program has intrigued me since Coach JIm Harbaugh was there. I think he should have stuck with the PAC, he might have a few championships by now.

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