Curtis Allen’s week two watchpoints (vs San Francisco)

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen. After the game today tune into the instant reaction live stream which will be available on here and on our YouTube channel

Fact:  Pete Carroll has never had a losing season against the NFC West in his Seahawks tenure.

How has he been able to maintain such an impressive stretch of success?  Answer:  He gets to play the San Francisco 49ers twice a year.

Every team has a nemesis and Pete Carroll and the Seahawks have been the Niners’ kryptonite for a whole decade.  In their last 20 matchups, the Seahawks have won an incredible 17 of those games.

And what is more –  the three losses?

One was by two points.

Another was by three points in overtime.

The third?  By 5 points.  But really, it was more like 5 inches.

It is as good a record of success in a head-to-head matchup over a ten-year period as any we are likely to see.  And 49er fans know it.

A brief anecdote, if you will allow it.  I was able to fly to San Francisco for the Week 10 Monday Night game in 2019.  The Niners were 8-0 and were delivering on their promise after a 4-12 season the year prior.  The Seahawks were 7-2 and needed to win to keep pace.

The atmosphere in the stadium was electric.  Both teams came to play.  

As you recall, it was a game of punches and counterpunches.  The Seahawk offense sputtered early but were gifted 7 points by Jadeveon Clowney recovering a fumble for a touchdown.  

The Niners responded by stripping D.K. Metcalf of the ball at the 1-yard line as he reached for the goal line.  And so on and so forth.

They had a replacement kicker who heroically tied the game with a clutch field goal as time expired, then blew a chance to win the game in overtime with the worst kick I have ever seen in person.

After that, everyone in the stadium knew what was coming next.  But they were forced to watch it unfold and could not look away.  Russell Wilson led a game-winning drive that slowly drained the life out of the home fans in the stadium like Chinese water torture.  As Jason Meyers kicked the winning field goal, Wilson and the Seahawks danced on the field in delight.

A perfect season, a chance to put the division in a headlock and for one moment the golden opportunity to finally wipe the smug smile off that gum-chewing so-and-so’s face had been snatched from them in painful fashion.

It just became too much to bear for one Niner fan exiting the stadium.  He was quietly walking by himself a few steps in front of my friends and I, shoulders slumped in exhausted grief.  Then, out of nowhere, he decided he had had enough.  With an energy that came from deep down inside, he mustered everything he had and shouted with all his might “F*** PETE CARROLL !!” at the top of his lungs into the void.  He took a breath, slumped his shoulders once again and resumed walking quietly.

Causing that kind of existential dread in your opponent’s fanbase is not something that happens every day.  The Seahawks need to do their level best keep making Niner fans shaking their heads well into 2023.

While the Seahawks have been typically dominated by the Rams and split with the Cardinals, seeing the 49ers on the schedule – even with the talent on their roster and in the coaches’ room – is a welcome sight.  If the Seahawks want to keep that division record streak alive, they are going to have to win Sunday.  Which begs the question…

How Have They Been Doing It?

Oddly enough the Niners had a near-identical performance in a loss against Chicago in Week One that Denver had against the Seahawks.  Both the Broncos and the Niners:

-Ran the ball effectively

-Outgained their opponent by over 100 yards

-Possessed the ball almost exactly 7 minutes more than their opponent

-Converted nearly 50% of their third downs

Those are normally the prime ingredients of a solid win.  How did they both lose their games then?  

They both:

-Got flagged an ugly 12 times

-Gave up a busted-coverage touchdown from a quarterback scrambling

-Lost the turnover battle 2-1

That is precisely how the Seahawks beat Denver on Monday and how Chicago beat San Francisco on Sunday.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is in one snapshot exactly why the Seahawks are 5-1 against the Niners in their last six games.

San Francisco has consistently outgained the Seahawks in yards.  They have also accrued more penalties and turned the ball over more times than the Seahawks have.

This, oddly enough, is where the Seahawks’ defensive formula of conceding a ton of yards, keeping the game in front of them and stiffening in the red zone works for them.  The opposing offense is on the field so often, they are bound to make a mistake sooner or later, be it by running out of downs, taking a drive-killing penalty or committing a turnover.

That is why Jimmy Garoppolo is on the bench in favor of Trey Lance.  Until Trey Lance matures, forcing him into a place where he cannot make many explosive plays, so rather he needs to make very good decisions play after play after play will continue to be an important part of their success.

Of course, it only works to their advantage if the Seahawks continue to play a cleaner game than the Niners…

Play Smart

They beat Denver Monday by being far better in this area.  But let’s be right:  Denver set a low, low bar.  Between twelve flags, two back-breaking turnovers, some bad Russell Wilson throws and a bone-headed decision to try an NFL-record field goal instead of giving your new quarterback a chance to be the hero, it would be easy to overlook the areas where the Seahawks need to improve.

D.K. Metcalf had a fumble that Denver recovered.  Rashaad Penny got stripped at the end of a brilliant run (thankfully Austin Blythe was hustling downfield and fell on the ball).  Geno Smith got strip-sacked and the Seahawks recovered the ball.  He also did not execute a quarterback sneak very well on 4th and inches.  Tariq Woolen gave up 52 yards on two pass interference flags.  Both safeties had chances to intercept the ball and failed to make the game-changing play.

There are many opportunities for improvement.

And not to hammer the obvious once again but when you do not have a field-tilting franchise quarterback who can pull the game out late in the fourth quarter to cover over all those early-game mistakes, the impact of those bad plays is magnified.

They will need to be sharper on both sides of the ball if they are to beat San Francisco Sunday.

As well they will need a real commitment to being the superior ground team…

Beat Them On the Ground

The Seahawks have consistently been the better team in their matchup when it comes to running the football.  While San Francisco has gotten more yards in the passing game (and therefore more overall yards), the Seahawks have been consistently been able to stick it to them by running the ball far more effectively.

How much better?  In those last 6 games they have on average run for 30 more yards than the Niners.  They have topped 100 yards rushing as a team in all 6 of those games, whereas San Francisco has only been able to do it twice.

Both teams are seriously committed to the run game.  There really is no difference in how often they choose to run when playing each other.  The Seahawks have just been more efficient, and therefore better, running an average of 4.25 yards per carry, where the Niners can only muster 3.75 yards.

This is where their model really works.  30 more yards rushing than your opponent in every game means more possession time.  Which puts more pressure on the Niner offense to move down the field quickly when they finally do get the ball.  Which is all the more frustrating when the Seahawks have built a defense to not get built deep and forces you to eat clock while you dink and dunk down the field.  Which the Niners have struggled to do without a top quarterback at the helm.  It is like being slowly suffocated by a snake coiled around its prey.

It is a trap that the Niners fall into time and time again.

Of course, there is no assurance the Seahawks will be able to do this again on Sunday.  They have to earn it.

Rashaad Penny at times looked like he was just a break here or there from resuming his torrid play on Monday.  However, the Seahawks only gave him 12 carries against the Broncos.  While he did get 60 yards, they were hard earned.  Penny only recorded 11 total yards before contact.  That means on overage he had less than a yard per carry before he was contacted by a defender.  Denver did an excellent job on the interior of the line keeping Penny from getting into gear.

It may be tough sledding again this week.  David Montgomery is a good inside runner and could not get much going against the Niner defense.  On the bright side, perhaps the Seahawks will get Damien Lewis and Ken Walker back from injury this week.

Whatever the case, the Seahawk offense is going to really need the running game to be effective.

On the flip side, that also means containing the Niners’ run game.

Elijah Mitchell will not play Sunday after sustaining an injury.  That likely means that Deebo Samuel and Trey Lance will be the focus of their ground game.

Let’s look at Deebo’s carries Sunday against the Bears.  What do you see from his run chart?  He was primarily attacking the edges of the defense:

If they want to continue that trend, that is going to be a real challenge for the Seahawks . 

Pete Carroll identified that on Wednesday when asked about defending the run against Denver:

“We were not consistent.  We gave up too many plays on the edge and it wasn’t as good as it needed to be.”  

His body language, short answer and wanting to move along to the next question said more than his words did.  He expected better play there on Monday.

Samuel is so hard to defend in the run game because of his unique blend of speed and toughness.  Watch him get to the edge Sunday before Al-Quadin Muhammad – who practically has a free release – can even get set (and give Eddie Jackson a serious pop at the goal line just for good measure).

This is where the change to a 3-4 defense really needs to work.  In a 4-3 the edge players are bigger and more physical.  In the 3-4 they are quicker to get to the outside and keep the runners from exploiting those wide edges like Samuel did on that touchdown run.  Nwosu, Taylor, and Mafe will need to have an active game and help reroute runners inside where players like Jordyn Brooks are waiting for them.

Thankfully, they will get some edge support from the corners in the running game.  Watch Tariq Woolen knock KJ Hamler on his butt and show no hesitance about going head on with Javonte Williams on Monday.

I am delighted that the hard-nosed physicality I saw in Woolen in practice is showing up when the games count.  The defense definitely showed more intensity Monday night than we saw in 2021.  Here is hoping it continues.

What about Trey Lance’s rushes?  He had 13 of the Niners’ 37 rushes on Sunday.  Six of those rushes gained first downs for the offense.  I watched them all.  I would say half those runs were scrambles to escape pressure, a quarter were designed runs, and the rest were ‘if your first read is not there and there is an opening, go’ type options.

This was his first game as the unquestioned starter and with the inclement weather, Kyle Shanahan gave him a simpler plan to work with.  He took 51 of the 67 snaps from shotgun formation and Shanahan called for several quick throws and the option to take off and run.

The inside defensive lineman must be effective in order to defend Lance.  If they keep him hemmed in, his inexperience may really shine through if his first read is not available and there is no hole to escape to.  More than once on Sunday the Bears were able to frustrate him into dumping the ball off for minimal gains or poor off-schedule throws that missed their target (9 of his 28 throws were classed Bad Throws by PFR).

Again, this is where the 3 of the 3-4 should be advantageous.  Al Woods, Poona Ford, Bryan Mone and Quentin Jefferson should be able to control the gaps.  They did not accomplish this very well against the Broncos.  Their PFF scores for Monday were far below the standard they need to be.  Nobody broke a 60 in run defense or pass rushing except Mone who graded a 70, albeit in only 4 pass rush snaps.

The Seahawks have a fair chunk of cap invested there.  They need a better return on Sunday.

The front seven will need to be very, very sharp as a group.  Last Sunday, Samuel averaged 4.3 yards before contact on his runs.  Elijah Mitchell averaged 4.7.  Those are insane numbers.  The best full-time runners in the NFL usually average about 2.4-2.6 yards before contact over the season.

They demonstrate the blocking and scheming prowess that Kyle Shanahan and the offensive line bring to the table.

A reasonable expectation would be the front seven cut those numbers in half.  While that seems to be a high bar to set, history tells us that Pete Carroll and the defense have not only been able to reach it against San Francisco but to clear it with room to spare.  Here is hoping they will be able to do that on Sunday and leave Niner fans in despair once again.


  1. Mick

    Was looking forward for this, nice done, cha.

    If we get anything but a win tonight I will be disappointed. We can beat them, we always have, we got just enough material to do it again. I don’t care about how high we pick a QB, we got Wilson at 75, I want to win the winnable games and this is one of them. Especially if Kittle is out. I hope this is the night Cross stands his ground against Bosa, Taylor and Nwosu own the 9ers Oline, and Woolen and Bryant finish their receivers.

  2. UkAlex6674

    I said the Denver game was entirely winnable and I say the same for this one.

    But the main point raised by Cha for me was that it is doubtful the 49ers will give away as many penalty yards as Denver and you can’t ignore the impact of those.

    Pretty sure the 49ers will have watched the 2nd half of last week and identified how Smith got shut down, and I’m not entirely convinced his game can get better than the 1st half, so we better think of something early to get DK and Lockett established to keep the 49er D guessing.


  3. bmseattle

    It’s difficult for me to envision our offense being able to sustain drives against the 49er defense.
    I think we are going to need a few explosive plays to score enough to win this game.
    That means DK and, perhaps, Penny, will likely need to show up big.

  4. Big Mike

    Thank you much for the effort and knowledge cha. Outstanding as always.

  5. Sean

    Thanks for the write up. I really appreciate these. We’ve had so many great games against the niners.

  6. Palatypus

    Great work Cha.

  7. Henry Taylor

    Imagine if we win this game and sit at 2-0 with Atlanta and Detroit up next. Some expectations are going to get out of hand. (Probably including mine ngl)

  8. Big Mike

    Charles Davis, who is the color guy with Ian Eagle on CBS is probably my favorite color guy in pro ball. So sharp and so erudite. He knew a rule before Mike Tomlin had to have it explained to him by the refrs. They are the #2 network announcing team behind Nance and Romo but I think they’re better, or at least as good.

    • Palatypus

      I really did enjoy the opportunity to tune out Troy Aikman last week for the Manning cast,

    • TomLPDX

      Ian is no slouch either. I like these guys. Yesterday Brock did the Oregon game. Always like to hear Brock in the booth.

      Really getting tired of Nance though.

  9. Blitzy the Clown

    I dunno. It’s never a good thing when everyone thinks the #1 reason why you’ll beat your next opponent is because of your past success against them.

    Not saying that’s you cha. Your article is detailed and well supported as usual.

    This is indeed a winnable game, but mostly because Trey Lance is worse than Geno Smith.

    Even so, I’m excited to watch our OTs vs a top-5 DL, excited to watch our DB group continue to evolve especially now that Jones is full time with the starters. Also hoping Barton continues to play well.

  10. Palatypus

    I think the Jets took notice of how sloppy everybody’s special teams were last week when they converted a fake punt in their own end. Also, the trend of lots of turnovers continues.

    And can someone help me finish this joke?

    L.J. Collier and Jamal Adams walk into a bar…

    • David Ashton

      I’ll play

      They ask, “Who’s going to buy us the first round?”

    • TomLPDX

      Jamal trips over the threshold and L.J. tries to catch him but misses and Jamal breaks his other shoulder when he lands.

      ok, weak, but I could see it!

    • cha

      L.J. Collier and Jamal Adams

      • Big Mike


    • Blitzy the Clown

      …to meet D’Wayne Eskridge for a drink, but they couldn’t because Creed Humphrey bounced them at the door


  11. Hawks4life

    Remember a couple years ago when the rumors of us adding Minkah Fitzpatrick were floating around, but instead we later traded for Jamal Adams. Neither are moves I would sign off on but man Minkah is a game changer for that Steelers defense

  12. Palatypus

    Detroit and Jacksonville looking really good today. When was the last time those two teams won on the same day?

    • TomLPDX

      Both QBs looking good.

    • TomLPDX

      JAX with the shutout!

  13. Jordan

    Man, Indianapolis, what a rudderless operation with a garbage philosophy/plan at the QB position – just year after year going with someone else’s discarded QB. It’s like they don’t know what to do when not gifted an elite prospect with the 1st overall pick.

    • UkAlex6674

      Rudderless is a bit over the top. Maybe they have one eye on next year’s crop like a lot of teams do.

    • Palatypus

      Matt Ryan = Turd Burger
      Joe Flacco = Sh*t Sandwich.

      • TomLPDX

        Matt Ryan is NOT a turd burger. Can’t argue about Flacco though…

        • Palatypus

          Well at this moment the artist-formerly-known as Turd Burger has put zero points on the board. The Sh*t Sandwich has 17.

  14. Rob Staton

    3500 words on the draftable quarterbacks coming on Monday

    • Palatypus


    • Big Mike

      I thought you were gonna sleep last night?

      • Rob Staton

        Watched all the games today

      • Robbie

        Rob doesn’t sleep…he’s not human.

    • cha

      Awesome. Cannot wait. Content you cannot get anywhere else.

  15. cha


    Artie Burns
    Justin Coleman
    Joey Blunt
    Dareke Young
    Jake Curhan
    Myles Adams (Early front runner for the Annual January “PC says we should have given more snaps to this DL” Award)

    George Kittle Inactive

    • Palatypus

      Kenneth Walker?

      • Robbie


  16. Trevor

    The NFL needs to rethink how they are managing pre-season the level of play these first 2 weeks has been horrific IMO.

    • Palatypus

      NFL Redzone earlier called the last two minutes of each game last week “the witching hour.” I call it “the choking hour.”

  17. Trevor

    Doubt many Seahawks fans are still clamouring for Baker after these first couple of weeks. Awful!

  18. Chris

    Same ol defense

    • cha

      Quandre Diggs. /shakes head

      • Big Mike

        Josh Jones/same

  19. Mick

    What’s this D doing again?

  20. Kyle R.

    Looks like the 49ers paid attention to MNF and saw the Seahawks couldn’t stop the run.

    • Big Mike

      Difference is I don’t think Shanahan will abandon it like Hackett did.

      • Kyle R

        Exactly Big Mike that is what I’m afraid of and we won’t have two fumble gifts inside goal to go either.

  21. Chris

    It’s really hard to watch

  22. ShowMeYourHawk

    I will never understand Pete’s insisting on deferring receipt of the opening kickoff when winning the flip. When you’ve got an all-world defense, it made sense. Now, you’re basically ensuring you’re playing from behind early.

  23. Blitzy the Clown

    Bend don’t break

  24. KennyBadger

    What no fumble recovery in the red zone defense? And good job browns.

  25. Romeo A57

    Defense doing the bend don’t break philosophy to perfection again. Let the other teams’ offense do what they want until they get inside the 10 yard line.

  26. Chris

    After a 3 and out our defense will be on the field for the rest of the 1st quarter

  27. Chris

    Gonna be a long game if we don’t fix our run d

  28. Palatypus

    Lions win! Jets win! Giants win! Dolphins win! Jaguars win!

    • Romeo A57

      Let’s see if Seattle can match these other mediocre teams and get a win today!

    • Big Mike

      Baltimore had a 3 touchdown lead in that game against Miami and lost

  29. Chris

    Hopefully Houston wins

  30. Blitzy the Clown

    Kenneth Walker for the 1st down on his inaugural NFL rush attempt!

  31. cha

    Abe Lucas looked very good vs Bosa on that drive.

  32. Blitzy the Clown

    Meh. At least they didn’t go 3 and out to start the game.

  33. Chris s

    San Fran doesn’t even need to pass

  34. Kyle R

    Run pick up 5 plus yards rinse and repeat.

  35. Rob Staton

    Our tackling is pathetic

    • bmseattle

      Is it even “tackling” if you don’t touch him?

  36. AlaskaHawk

    From Legion of Boom to Hot Butter. Youch.

  37. Big Mike

    God awful blown tackle by Taylor

  38. Mick

    The entire D scheme is terrible. How can you give Deebo so much space?

  39. Blitzy the Clown

    I just…I mean…sigh

  40. ShowMeYourHawk

    So….. Taylor is NOT an LB. He contains like a colander.

    • Big Mike

      “contains like a colander.”

      That’s damned funny man

  41. Big Mike

    Jimmy time

  42. Rob Staton

    I remember talking about an emotional let down this week after all the hoopla last week

    Looks like those concerns were valid

    • Big Mike

      Bullshit. You’re just negative.

      • Joe

        And a “hater” 😂

    • Kyle R

      I mean it not even be an emotional let down… could be we just aren’t good Rob. Like you said before as well.

    • AlaskaHawk

      I heard the D word. Rhymes with portable womans showering device. har har

      But honestly Rob – way to hang in there for your blog and fans!

  43. Chris

    What’s the point of having a defensive minded head coach when the defense looks like this?

  44. Kyle R

    If we can’t stop the run it doesn’t matter who the QB is. Contain and goddamn tackle!

  45. Blitzy the Clown

    Oh great, here comes an actual NFL QB.

    Not that it’ll make much difference, but SF are better with Jimmy than Trey.

  46. bmseattle

    Conspiracy theory:
    Shanahan kept running Lance so he gets hurt and he can put in Jimmy without controversy.

  47. Mick

    Glimmer of hope, Jimmy with his blackouts.

  48. Romeo A57

    Ask Cam Newton how long a QB lasts running like a Fullback all the time. Sorry to see Trey go out on the Cart…

  49. Blitzy the Clown

    Best wishes to Trey Lance I hope it’s not serious

    • Big Mike

      Ditto, but sadly I think it is.

  50. bmseattle

    CBs can play up tighter now.
    Jimmy couldn’t throw deep before his shoulder injury.
    Probably has even less arm strength now.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Well, Coby Bryant has made the best run tackle so far…

  51. Big Mike

    Nwosu looks like a very good signing.

  52. Chris

    Nowusu is our best defensive player in a bad bunch

  53. Blitzy the Clown

    Darned if Nwosu hasn’t been a pleasant surprise.

    He’s turning out to be a rare FA win for Seattle.

  54. Mick

    We badly need some points now.

  55. ShowMeYourHawk

    Nwosu may be the best FA acquisition for the ‘Hawks since…. Avril? Struggling to think of a FA that JS has brought in that actually impacted the game?

  56. Rob Staton

    This is where I worry for our offense

    When they are behind and have to chase a bit

  57. Palatypus

    Jamal Adams and Trey Lance walk into a bar…

    Too soon?

    • Blitzy the Clown

      For walking in? Yes

    • Rob Staton

      After this week, would be a certain type of ‘bar’ if Lance is involved

      • bmseattle

        *groan* 🙂

        • Big Mike


      • STTBM

        Not sure what you mean by this comment Rob. Is it a bar for incompetent people? Never heard of that…Seriously, what you mean by that?

        • Rob Staton

          Lance was filmed in a strip bar this week

    • Big Mike

      Trey: “They traded 3 firsts for me”
      Jamal: “I guess I suck, they only traded 2 firsts and a third for me.”

      • bmseattle

        Jamal: “But then I got paid.”

        • Big Mike


    • AlaskaHawk

      Lets spice that joke up by adding Deshaun Watson!

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      If you look close enough, you can see the first round picks float away like dandelion spores.

  58. Blitzy the Clown

    I’m liking the Lucas-Jackson blocking tandem. They work well together.

  59. Chris

    Is Myles adams active today?

    • Mick

      Nope, healthy scratch

    • Big Mike

      No. This year’s recipient of the Alton Robinson award

      • Kyle R

        Hey Big Mike, Pete and the guys were looking for ways to get him in there. He just sort of gets lost in the shuffle and that’s on Pete and the coaches and they need to get better at finding ways for him to get in there…..or some bullshit like that.

        • Big Mike

          Like cha said up above, at the season ending presser, PC will talk about how they should’ve found ways to get him more time on the field………after the fact.

  60. Rob Staton

    You’ve got to love a 3rd and 12 throw to the flat behind the LOS

    THREE scoreless quarters for the offense and not looking good

    • bmseattle

      But… remember the 1st half of week one?

    • UkAlex6674

      I think there are going to be a lot of unhappy Geno nut-huggers by the end of the night.

    • STTBM

      Literally, makes me long for the utter worst of Darrel Bevell…

  61. Mick

    When you can’t pass and they know you can only run…

    • bmseattle

      I know this sounds crazy… but maybe we try a pass more than 5 yards downfield?

  62. Chris

    Myles adams had to good of a preseason to play on this defense I guess

  63. Big Mike

    Defense soon to wear down and give up a TD drive.

  64. Rob Staton

    This is the offense I feared

    It was a great half against Denver

    But this is the reality. We look incapable of doing much of anything

    • bmseattle

      This is the defense I feared…

  65. Rob Staton

    We are really, really, really bad

    • Rob Staton

      But at least we won our SB last week eh

      • Big Mike

        That’s what mattered most to Pete………and Sherm, and Baldwin, and…………

      • AlaskaHawk

        Still a couple hours that you can scream we are #1.

      • Rob Staton

        Defense — pathetic

        Blown coverages, bad tackling, no discipline or serious pressure

        Offense — non existent

        They can’t do anything

        • STTBM

          It’s Coaching…or lack of it…

      • Matthew

        Uh, exactly…I think many of us k RW this was the reality, but fully enjoyed winning that game. How are that, and seeing what we k RW to be the truth related? Would we be better today if last Monday was different, or the victory lap after wasn’t a mile? Nah, this was going to be the reality regardless.

        • Matthew

          Christ, on my phone, sorry. k RW = know

    • bmseattle

      We’re clearly going to need all of our draft picks to fill in our many, many holes.
      So if we are truly this bad, better to lose and not have to package picks to move up for a QB.

    • Seattle Person

      Top 5 pick baby!

      But in all seriousness I think many, including myself take and eat this humble pie. I’m still looking for progression for our key pieces moving forward.

  66. Chris

    New defense same as the old defense

    • STTBM

      Les Incompetant…

  67. cha

    I really, really, really hope the Seahawks haven’t blown a development year for Coby by trying to convert him inside to a nickel.

    • Big Mike

      Very good point

    • Seattle Person

      I feel like Bryant’s lack of speed and quickness gets exploited inside.

      • bmseattle

        and his lack of size will get exploited outside, at this level.
        He might be kind of a tweener.

        • Seattle Person

          Lack of size? He’s 6’1. He’s built for the outside. Weird take.

  68. Mick

    All too easy. I put it on the coaches, we aren’t the only team starting rookies.

  69. Kyle R

    I can just hear Pete now….”Can you win the game in the 2nd quarter!?” my reply back would be…”No coach but you can lose it”

  70. Big Mike

    And now with Jimmy loosening up the run D cuz he can actually pass at an NFL level, the run game will get better for SF.

  71. STTBM

    I’m surprised so many seem surprised by our offensive ineptitude. This is Carrol/Waldron at its finest. The offense has talented players, but not talented coaches. Larry Izzo and Sanjay Lal are the only real NFL staff on this team.

    But who needs that bum Wilson, we got PeteBall!?

  72. Chris

    The hardest question that will be asked at the post game press conference will be how good is Al woods

  73. KennyBadger

    They are putting 11 guys out there on D, right?

  74. mtpgod

    Things we always knew that are being confirmed today: Barton sucks and our LB depth is terrible, although this new Williams guy is looking good early, and Darrel Taylor is way overrated.

    • bmseattle

      If Brooks and Taylor don’t establish themselves as building blocks this year, we’re in even worse shape than we imagined.
      We need to start developing guys who can be difference makers.

      • Big Mike

        The cupboard appears to be very bare. That’s what happens when you draft like shit. One seemingly good draft won’t make up for 5 or 6 bad ones in a row.

  75. Chris

    Darrell Taylor should be benched. If there is anyone to bench him for

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      I mean, I can fail at wrapping up tackles.

  76. Palatypus

    Houston with a big-time goal-line stand.

    • mtpgod

      Russ starting 2-8, don’t see that very often if ever.

  77. ShowMeYourHawk

    Drew Lock will be starting before mid-season, methinks.

    • UkAlex6674

      week 5 latest

  78. Big Mike

    Great protection and he still threw into double coverage. 🙁

  79. bmseattle

    Suddenly Geno isn’t so “safe” with the football.
    He’s a turnover machine when forced to throw it.

    • cha

      Late with the throw.

      Bad mechanics.

      Not enough mustard.

      • Big Mike

        And 2 defenders in the area

  80. Chris

    The only bright spot is the tackles have held their own so far.

  81. Mick

    Great Geno, now give them the ball, not like the D isn’t letting them play already.

  82. STTBM

    Can’t wait for Carroll’s litany of excuses….

    Will he top Mora’s record of using “Accountability” 57 TIMES in his post-game press conference, not once in reference to Coaches?!

    The only mystery in the outcome of this game…

  83. Chris

    Wow! 2 good plays in a row

  84. Big Mike

    We’re lucky there. Should’ve been caught

    • OP_Chillin

      No idea why they went for that fourth down.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      When your folly becomes your boon, tough times

  85. Kyle R

    I see even the 49ers can get away from the running game from time to time too. I don’t know why.

    • Big Mike

      Agree. Makes no sense

  86. bmseattle

    Our pass rush has been incredibly bad so far this year.
    I was hopeful it would be somewhat of a strength.

  87. Rob Staton

    What a waste of a great play by DK

    FFS Abe

    • Big Mike

      Incredible catch.

    • bmseattle

      That’s 2 big plays he’s negated with penalties this year.

    • cha

      That’s what happens when you cannot create offense with your standard package.

      You have to try something silly.

  88. CaptainJack

    This is a great time to put Drew Lock into the game and see what happens.

    I mean, we have nothing to lose

  89. Seattle Person

    #29 in red looks like a hell of a player.

    Geno just throwing the ball up for grabs now?

  90. Blitzy the Clown

    Lucas blocking too well is so 2022 Seahawks

  91. Seattle Person

    Big time PI. Can’t complain there Kyle…

    • Matt

      Atrocious throw…very lucky

      • Kyle R

        Yes thank you SF for the gift instead of getting yardage without their help on our own.

  92. Hawks4life

    Geno for MVP?

    • AlaskaHawk

      The pregame announcers were saying that Geno is a 10 year veteran! Sounds impressive. I do like his pretty passes, just not where the passes are going!

  93. Chris

    Do the niners have 8 in the box?

  94. Big Mike

    So is Lewis now heading for injury prone status?

  95. ShowMeYourHawk

    Needing a penalty to finally cross the 50 seems about right for this offense.

    • bmseattle

      That’s our problem!
      We game planned for a bunch of defensive penalties, gifting us 1st downs, like last week.

  96. Kyle R.

    7-10 for 37 yards and one INT…..3.7 yards an attempt!

    • Big Mike

      Move over Mahomes

      • STTBM

        Stan Gelbaugh/Jeff Kemp here we come! Whoo-hoo!

  97. Chris

    Don’t worry this is Pete’s plan

  98. OP_Chillin

    Shanahan is so weird. He is very conservative on fourth down overall but then goes for a 4th and long when they coulda pinned us deep or tried a long FG maybe gone up 16-0.

  99. Hawkster

    channeling his inner RW

    • Hawkster

      Not like in practice I assume

  100. bmseattle

    Ok… that was pretty funny.

    • Glor

      Can only laugh…

  101. shotime

    Our offense is terrible but one positive thing is that pass protection has been excellent.

  102. OP_Chillin

    Complete clownshow!

  103. Big Mike

    For the love of God

  104. Seattle Person

    What in the world is Waldron doing…Why are we getting weird on offense?

    • Rob Staton

      Pete is the Head Coach

      He sanctioned that nonsense

  105. cha


    • bmseattle

      Absolutely no need for that kind of play.
      My lord.

  106. UkAlex6674

    What a douchenozzle of a play 🙁

  107. KD

    LOL! What was that?!

  108. Kyle R

    Lockett is amazing and always has been when the play breaks down and the QB scrambles for time. The rookie QB next year will be very fortunate to have that.

    • Big Mike

      If he doesn’t retire

      • Kyle R

        True Big Mike this year might suck the life and joy of the game out of him

  109. ShowMeYourHawk

    Megamind Waldron. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  110. Rob Staton

    Jesus wept

    That trick play was embarrassing

  111. Blitzy the Clown

    JFC are you kidding me? This isn’t funny

    Dallas throwing a pass? WTF is this shite

  112. TomLPDX

    I don’t care. I love Pete doing unusual stuff. He has NEVER done that before.

    • Rob Staton

      Nobody should EVER do that

    • cha

      Yes he has.

      Tanner McEvoy

      Sidney Rice

      Mike Rob

      Golden Tate

  113. Chris

    Greg bell: how good of a passer is d.j dalles

    • Big Mike


    • bmseattle

      He was a really good QB in junior high.

  114. Mick

    I mean what’s next, let Blythe throw? Start Drew Lock if you don’t trust Geno to do it in the red zone.

  115. KennyBadger

    What a cute offense. They trust geno so much they have a special teamer throwing a pass in the red zone.

  116. Robbie

    I don’t even know what in the hell they are doing letting DJ FLIPPING DALLAS throw the football inside the redzone. GET OUTTA here with that garbage.

    • David Ashton

      Shit ridiculous

  117. Shane

    I think the most entertaining thing about that wildcat play was Dallas’s reaction after he threw the pic..

  118. JC3

    Haha, this is not a football team.

  119. CaptainJack


    Play Drew Lock

  120. Chris

    At least our run d seems to be improving

  121. Chris

    Pete will say this is the best d.j has been a a passer

    • Hawkster

      not just a utility back, he’s a weapon.

  122. mtpgod

    if Dallas would’ve just run that, it would’ve been a 1st down, but that’s why you don’t put the ball in the hands of a RB w/option to pass.

  123. TomLPDX

    C’mon guys, get with the program! This is entertainment!

  124. Mick

    This is getting ridiculous, and I bet if we lose 43-7 and Broncos stays with the 3 they have so far, some fans will still celebrate.

    • Seattle Person

      Boy…How it’s only 0-13 is a huge indicator that San Fran is not that good either.

    • mtpgod

      Yea both the Seahawks and Broncos losing will be good every week this year.

  125. Chris

    I will root for the broncos to lose every game this year. After that I will root for Russ again

    • STTBM

      Not me. Hope they go 20-0. Anything that speeds up ridding us of Jody Allen, Carroll, JS, and the entire staff…

      Someone buy the team, hire Todd Liwieke back to find us a real GM and Coach…

  126. Blitzy the Clown

    I like the wildcat formation. There’s potential in that set inside the red zone, especially with the RBs and speedy WRs we have on the roster. But FFS run it. Don’t pass it.

  127. Big Mike

    And the shitshow continues.
    Our own guy hit him, right?

    • Kyle R


  128. Blitzy the Clown

    He didn’t call for a fair catch? Why the hell not?

    • Todd

      He did, but our own guy was pushed into him.

  129. Kyle R.

    Christ Crawford! They just can’t do a damn thing right!

  130. Mick

    We lost before, but I don’t recall the last time we looked so silly.

  131. Rob Staton

    Where’s that five page thread on

    A week of grief for fearing it felt like Seattle enjoyed their win against Russell Wilson too much

    • Big Mike

      I just don’t understand why you even go to that shithole of a site.

      • Big Mike

        But I do hope you go in next week with a comment or two

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        Yeah, it seems like taking unnecessary visits to troll caves isn’t really worth your time. Who cares what they say?

      • Palatypus

        “I just don’t understand why you even go to that shithole of a site.”


  132. Gross MaToast

    I can safely say that this is not how we look in practice.

    • Big Mike

      Pete, you’re supposed to be coaching not here.

  133. Kyle R

    Nice 8 yard cushion there Barton.

  134. KD

    Well, looks like the Seahawks are who we thought they were :/

    • Kyle R

      And the press will let them off the hook!

  135. TomLPDX

    You guys were expecting more? I wasn’t.

    • TomLPDX

      This is going to be a blowout. Let it be a wakeup call for Pete and company.

      • Big Mike

        Why would Carroll need a wake up call my friend? He’s not going to be fired. He has absolute power and will for 3 more years unless she sells sooner (unlikely).

        • TomLPDX

          Because I’m tired of him talking his shit about being competitive each and every week. We won’t be. We need to focus on getting this team right, not the bullshit rah-rah crap that Pete blows out his butt every week.

          • 12th chuck

            That’s why I didn’t like the way we won last week. It falls into pc mentality. He will never change.

            • Big Mike


        • Blitzy the Clown

          I dunno if he’d stick around after this season if it’s another 15 weeks of this

          • Big Mike

            But we have a roster that’s close to contending for a Super Bowl. Why would he leave?

    • Mick

      I was. Hard to expect this, but it might be the new normal

      • STTBM

        Winner winner, chicken dinner!

  136. cha

    Play Smart

    Play Smart

    Play Smart

    Play Smart

    Beat Them On the Ground

    Beat Them On the Ground

    Beat Them On the Ground

    Beat Them On the Ground

  137. AlaskaHawk

    I want to see more of Walker in the second half. I don’t care about the passing anymore.

  138. Pran

    Seahawks and Broncos stinking up.. Good for draft position.

  139. dand393

    Well only positive today is Wilson looks terrible and Denver looks like shit

    • OP_Chillin

      Maybe both parties are just toast at this point. Early in the season, but definite possibility.

    • Roy Batty

      Russ was right. Offensive lines do, in fact, matter.

      Unfortunately, he moved from a house that has a basement that floods every year to a house that has a basement that floods every year.

  140. ShowMeYourHawk

    With the final scores around the league today, there’s a damn good chance we lock into a top four draft spot, starting this week.

  141. Palatypus

    When was the last time we knocked a starting QB out of the game in the first quarter and were down 0-20 at the half?

    • KennyBadger

      Not just ‘we’ but anybody for that matter.

      • Palatypus

        I want to say we might have done it to Ron Jaworski/Randall Cunningham.

    • Feindt

      Goff in that ugly Playoff loss…

  142. Rob Staton

    That was a total and utter embarrassment

    Terrible coaching, execution, game plan, discipline

    • 12th chuck

      they are literally getting their ass beat in every aspect of the game. pathetic

    • Roy Batty

      Once again, so many broken tackles.

      • Big Mike

        I thought Pete Carroll was a defensive guru and was great at teaching tackling

        • TomLPDX

          Where is Rocky Seto when we need him!

    • Kyle R

      Rob, do you already have the recap written up yet?

      • Rob Staton

        Thought about starting

        Had a tea instead

        • Kyle R

          Figured you could just save some time and sleep. Not expecting anything different this second half so no one would noticed if you did sadly.

    • Todd M

      Do you think the pass protection showed some promise? A couple of boneheaded plays from Lucas, but it seems like the O line is doing ok. Looking for the silver lining …

  143. ShowMeYourHawk

    Dear me. I haven’t seen ineptitude of that variety since Jimmy Mora was stalking the sidelines.

    • Rob Staton


      It’s 2009 level bad

      • Big Mike

        You guys are spot on
        All we need is Pete to start throwing players under the bus and it’ll be ’09 all over again.

  144. AlaskaHawk

    Keeping Garapollo has paid off quickly for San Fran.

    Youch this game has been bad for the Seahawks, on both sides of the ball.

  145. Blitzy the Clown

    That was the most inept half of football from the Seahawks since Pete Carroll has been the coach

    • Roy Batty

      The gadget plays are absurd.

      Solidify your offense, you know the one that disappeared the final 30 minutes last week, before you start digging deep into the playbook for this crap.

  146. mtpgod

    Man Russ getting booed for 2nd straight week, let’s ride?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Something, something… grass being greener…..

    • Palatypus

      Let’s ride…the pine!

  147. Gary

    On a happier note, RW3 looking like hot garbage, Denver’s trailing 6-3, and the crowd is booing the Broncos.

    • bmseattle

      As long as the Broncos are within one score, Russ can bring them back at the end, and they’ll love him in Denver.

    • Pran

      Is it Russ or Coach or both?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      A new NFL record for consecutive games booed in different stadiums?

  148. UkAlex6674

    Maybe this will put to bed all those championing Smith as the second coming at QB. I saw someone referring to last weeks game as the ‘passing of the torch’ from Wilson to Smith. Absolute cringe.

    • mtpgod

      well this game sucked but I’ll say one thing: we found a good LB in Johnson, he’s been all over the place, hopefully he starts stealing snaps from Barton, who is terrible.

  149. Gross MaToast

    Sean Payton and Pete should trade jobs at halftime.

    • Big Mike

      If only……………

      • bmseattle

        Payton is way too smart to want to coach this collection of “talent”.

        • Kyle R

          I would love to see what Payton could do with two high first round and second round picks though!

          • Gross MaToast


        • Roy Batty

          If they handed him the level of control Pete has, I think he would mull it over. All those picks in 2023.

      • Gross MaToast

        I can’t see another year and fifteen games of this (before the team might be sold) going down well.

  150. CaptainJack

    If both we lose and Denver loses today I say that’s a great result.

  151. 12th chuck

    thing that are still an issue,
    1. tackling. several years it has been
    2. offensive play calls. for several years
    3. can’t stop the run,
    4. lack of pass rush or pressure. for several years now
    5. special teams play, at least 2 years
    6. being out coached

    • bmseattle

      At least we’ve got clear goals for improvement.

    • Palatypus

      You forgot penalties.

      • 12th chuck

        and time of possession

  152. UkAlex6674

    Anyone remember an English midfielder in the 80s called Ray Wilkins? His nickname was ‘The Crab’ because he could only pass sideways for 5 yards.

    Think we got Geno a new nickname.

    • Palatypus

      We should feed him to the crabs like in House of the Dragon.

  153. Mick

    We got 24 yards rushing in two quarters. Way to go Pete and Shane.

  154. Dave1401

    It scares me how bad this team could be if/when we go on a losing streak and the team quits on Pete

  155. Roy Batty

    Special teams blocking has been the worst.

    • Palatypus

      No, it’s just special.

  156. Big Mike

    As my cousin said: “Keystone Seahawks”

  157. bmseattle

    lucas again?

    • Big Mike

      Nope. Spreading the futility around

  158. Big Mike

    You know, I’m not a football coach so maybe I’m missing something here but I don’t think I’d block Bosa with a RB.

    • Gross MaToast

      Penny agrees.

  159. Pran

    I love the question mark on Pete’s face (as if he does not know…)

    • Roy Batty

      It’s a copy and paste from last year.

      His dumbfounded, open mouthed stare on the sidelines.

  160. Big Mike

    Love Tyler’s effort in the face of a fiasco.

  161. Roy Batty

    So, the Hawks don’t have any receivers apart from #16 & #14?

    Good grief.

  162. bmseattle

    I’ve never understood the plan in throwing to a route 5 yards short of the first down marker.
    I suppose they are hoping for yards after the catch, but that’s asking a lot.

  163. Blitzy the Clown

    Carroll thought the trick goal line play worked, they just need to throw it better? 🙄

    The intended WR was double covered in the corner of the end zone.

    It did not work. Not at all.

    • Big Mike

      But “we’re close”

    • bmseattle

      *If* the pass had been thrown a tick quicker, with more loft, toward the back corner of the endzone… I think DK would have had a decent shot at it.

      It’s just ridiculous to ask for that kind of a pass from a RB.

    • Pran

      Agree..DL is doubled irrespective of what play it is. They chose the wrong target.

    • Kyle R

      I caught that too and did an eye roll so big they almost fell out of my head.

  164. cha

    Sideline reporter: I asked PC what was up with those trick plays. He said they worked, we just need to throw the ball better.


    • Mick

      Asked PC why we punt, punt, interception, interception, fumble, punt. He says the plans work, we just need better players.

  165. ShowMeYourHawk

    Lockett is the only player on the offense with proper heart and talent. Everyone else lacks one or the other and some lack both.

    • UkAlex6674

      But there was – as per a large % of the fan base – plenty of both on display last week?

    • Seattle Person

      I don’t understand this take at all….

  166. Palatypus

    Apparently, Denver’s game plan is to pick on rookie Derek Stingley Jr.

  167. Kyle R

    Those are just GAPING holes to run through!

  168. Roy Batty

    Why are you leaving your feet Nwosu?

  169. bmseattle

    Even Jimmy G is breaking tackles.

  170. Chris

    Our dominance of the 49ers is officially over

  171. bmseattle

    As a lark, Rob should write up a glowingly optimistic article about the Seahawks after this game.

  172. UkAlex6674

    Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

  173. ShowMeYourHawk

    Are goal line stands the only thing this D does well?

  174. Seattle Person

    That Mike Jack is always in the right spot!

    • Todd M

      What a thriller. I’ll be here all week!

  175. TomLPDX


    Michael Jackson is our star this year!

    • TomLPDX

      At least it isn’t a shutout (Indy, I’m looking at you!)

  176. cha


  177. Kyle R

    Michael Jackson is a smooth criminal!

  178. Blitzy the Clown

    Ah hahahahahaha!

    Eat that 49ers!

  179. Mick

    Yey we scored. Glad the ST do their job against DF once again.

  180. Roy Batty


    Something good for once.

  181. Palatypus

    Dwelley is a welly!

  182. Hawkster

    SEA plying the long con, got ’em right were they want them.

  183. Big Mike

    Love Woolen

    • Blitzy the Clown

      The kid’s a baller. Loves to stick his nose right in there whenever he can. Definitely a bright spot

    • Hawkster

      Woolen a really bright spot for me. Just dripping with inexperience, but that will change. Length, game speed, hitter, plays hard. Dude is going to be a star.

  184. Henry Taylor

    Swear, I would have been fuming had the punter caught him. Great play though

  185. Seattle Person

    If we’re going to lose — at least make it enjoyable. A lot of the young guys playing really well.

  186. ShowMeYourHawk

    Finally, some points! Waldron should draw up some more 5-yd behind the line screen passes to celebrate.

  187. Roy Batty

    “Special teams unit may have just saved the game.”


    Is the announcer high? He does know that Geno is still QB, right?

    • Big Mike


    • Hawks4life

      Mark has always been terrible

  188. Seattle Person

    Darrell Taylor coming alive a little bit this drive.

  189. Hawks4life

    Nwosu is our best player so far, dude has heart

    • Roy Batty

      Remember the “Dancing Taylor” on the sidelines during pre season?

      The guy is an empty uniform so far this season.

  190. Blitzy the Clown

    The defense hasn’t given up

  191. Seattle Person

    That was a really bad call. Be better refs!

    • bmseattle

      Yeah, that was pretty awful.
      We’ve had a few big plays ruined by ticky tack penalties.

  192. Big Mike

    Killing a good series with a penalty

  193. ShowMeYourHawk

    He’s a rook and deserves a chance to improve but through 6 quarters, I may prefer the whatever is left of Kobe to Coby.

    • Big Mike

      But yeah, Woolen shows way more promise.

    • Seattle Person

      Justin Coleman didn’t look great at nickle either…Might have to wait until Tre Brown to come back to have a difference maker at nickle.

  194. Roy Batty

    Hey TOP and total yards disparity right back to 2021 levels.

  195. Big Mike

    Rain really affecting Jimmy

  196. bmseattle

    Taylor is just *not* winning off the edge.
    Super disappointing.

    • Rob Staton

      Big time disappointment

      Not elevating to difference maker

      • Seattle Person

        Not much of an excuse for him either. He’s rushing a lot from the strong side against the RT. He prefers that side too.

    • Hawkster

      keeps doing some weird dance, just doesn’t look good.

  197. Chris

    Wow we stopped them!

  198. Palatypus

    Russ 6-20 93 yards and an interception.

    • OP_Chillin

      Unbelievably bad

      • Roy Batty

        No worries, Cowherd will make some excuse for his “friend.”

        • bmseattle

          Perhaps he’ll blame Seahawks fans?

      • Elmer

        Turn out the lights…

  199. ShowMeYourHawk

    I really hope Pete doesn’t ruin Will Anderson next year.

    • bmseattle

      How good is he at dropping into coverage, I wonder?

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        He won’t have time, when he’s anointed our blocking TE.

    • Seattle Person

      The way Denver is looking…we might have a couple of higher round picks. Struggling vs the Texans.

      • Elmer


  200. Roy Batty

    Never a good sign when the Defensive lineman nearly receives the handoff.

    • Big Mike

      Never a good sign when the blocking assignments are FUBAR’d up so Bosa doesn’t even get blocked.

    • bmseattle

      Pete told the sideline reporter that “it worked”, we just need to handoff better.

      • Big Mike


    • Gross MaToast

      With Bosa running loose in the Seahawk backfield, I think maybe the kids still haven’t learned the players and names on other teams. I think that was an excuse after one of the preseason games.

  201. Chris

    Gotta go for it here

  202. Chris

    Oh by the way please don’t forget to block bosa again

  203. Henry Taylor

    Why are we running a read option with Geno on 3rd and 4?

    • Roy Batty

      It would have been hilarious if this were at Lumen and the fans started chanting “Drew, Drew, Drew” one week after “Geno, Geno, Geno”.

    • bmseattle

      I’m beginning to get the sneaking suspicion that the coaching staff doesn’t trust “Safe Geno” to throw the ball in throwing situations.

  204. Whit21

    A lot of ticky tack penalties against the hawks.. seem like they didnt prepare very well.. abe lucas mauling a guy on a fake run play? Cmon bro.. it was a designed pass play.. have to fake the run and get back in pass pro…

    Geno still refuses to step into throws.. slowly backs away from the line..

    No points in 5 quarters.. its not the best decision.. but.. let Drew Lock sling it for the 4th quarter..

  205. Romeo A57

    Now on 5 Quarters with an offensive point. Classic Peterball offense Run-Run-Run 4th Down.

    • Seattle Person

      I’m more worried about how un-dynamic the run game has been.

      • Elmer

        Right! Is Penny turning back into a pumpkin or can they disregard the pass and stuff the run?

  206. Chris

    Not much choice with geno at qb

  207. Roy Batty

    Keep ranting Pete.

    It’s all you got.

    • Seattle Person

      It was great coverage by Mike Jack though. Nothing you can really do when the ball is under thrown like that.

  208. Canadian Hawk

    Al Woods is a very good football player.

  209. Chris

    I love it when the nfl rewards a shitty throw

    • Palatypus

      It’s still not too late to sign up you kids for the Travis Homer Passing Academy.

      • Big Mike


      • ShowMeYourHawk

        Did Deejay attend that virtually during lockdowns?

  210. ShowMeYourHawk

    Remember when Seattle had CBs that knew to turn and face the ball, so as not to guarantee PI? Pepperidge Farms remembers….

    • Seattle Person

      In that particular play though, it’s so hard for the CB to get his head turned around. The pass was so under thrown and the CB reads the eyes of the WR to turn around.

      It’s really easy for the WR to draw a PI in that particular play. We’ve seen Tyler do that quite a bit. He slows down and lets the CB run into him.

    • Matthew

      They’re all rookies. Mistakes will happen.

  211. Big Mike

    The D has gotten better against the run as the game has progressed.

    • Roy Batty

      Woods is BenjaminButtoning. The vet is looking stronger and faster as the game progresses.

  212. OP_Chillin

    Jimmy G really isn’t very good.

    • Big Mike

      He’s serviceable, no more really. But in fairness the rain has affected him badly.

  213. Roy Batty

    Coby talking smack…😂

    • cha

      I like it.


      And displaying that short term memory corners need.

  214. Chris

    The defense has been much better this half

  215. uptop

    Sucks for trey lance, feel really bad for him. Dont feel as bad for the niners trading a lot for him

  216. Chris

    They will be lucky to get 1 productive year outta his rookie contract

  217. ShowMeYourHawk

    Can you imagine if we actually had a viable 3rd WR? Is it Goodwin, by default? Did Eskridge even suit up today?

    • Big Mike

      Who’s this “Eskridge” you speak of?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      And yes, we’d still be limited but at least there could be an outlet….

    • Hawkster

      You are allowed a 3rd WR?

  218. bmseattle

    Our guards standing 2 yards in the backfield after a stuffed running play.
    Not good.

  219. Roy Batty

    Genoa patented 10 yard drop back.

    • bmseattle

      Yep. Blocking wasn’t bad there. Geno just needs to throw the damn ball.

  220. ShowMeYourHawk

    Gabe Jackson can’t even hold well.

  221. Big Mike

    Is Metcalf still playing?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      …Madden, in the tent? Yes.

  222. Whit21

    I just hoped they came out and was somewhat competitive.. not inept.. kinda ruins the win over russ and the broncos

    • bmseattle

      I find that it makes the win over Russ even more satisfying.

      • Whit21

        Not when the broncos have only put 6 on the texans through 3 quarters

  223. Sea Mode

    Yawn. I’m off to bed…

  224. Palatypus

    Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    • Big Mike


  225. Chris

    Just think of how exciting the draft season is gonna be

    • Big Mike

      But think how long it’s gonna take to get there

      • DriveByPoster

        I think that’s the most depressing comment I’ve ever heard. Thanks Big Mike! 😀 🙁

  226. Scot04

    RW gets to throw on 4th & 2 at the 50. 1st down.
    Definitely guessing they regret last week.

    • Palatypus

      Yes, but that would be a 67 yard field goal, not 64.

      • bmseattle

        And now they just punted from the 41, rather than try a FG.

        • Scot04

          Lol, yep

  227. John

    Rob was right about Geno be a very low ceiling QB. After the first half of the Broncos game he has yet to lead a scoring drive.

  228. Chris

    No pass rush

  229. Glor

    I don’t think anyone has talked about geno having a high ceiling, he is what he is. Hasn’t changed since his days with the jets

    • Big Mike

      You do realize a fairly large portion of the fanbase has said Smith is/will be better than Wilson don’t you?

  230. Romeo A57

    I may not be a football expert, but I don’t believe that getting outgained by 200 yards every week is sustainable.

  231. Nick

    Cody Barton has to be the softest ILB in the league.
    His read step on every play is to shuffle backwards, and then proceed to hug an interior lineman.

    • mtpgod

      Yea Johnson has looked good, I bet he starts taking snaps from Barton.

  232. Whit21

    What? Broncos fans booing? YOU CANT BOO! Thats bad fandom…

    CaNt dO tHaT!!

  233. Kyle R

    My God I switched to watching the Denver vs Houston game and the Broncos coach just screwed time management and scoring again.

  234. OP_Chillin

    Not sure if any of you are following what just happened in the Broncos game…wow that coach is having a great career start.

    • bmseattle

      why not kick a fg from there?
      so weird.

  235. cha

    SF 188 yards rushing

    SEA 31

    Utter dominance

  236. bmseattle

    Not winning the penalty battle this week, are we?

  237. Chris

    Off-season needs: qb,center,guard,entire defensive line,safety,2 inside lb’ers, 3rd wr. Am I missing anything?

    • Palatypus

      Head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator…

      • Big Mike


    • bmseattle

      both outside and nickle

  238. Seattle Person

    Whatever the defense found in the 2nd half — keep doing it. I still like what we’ve seen from the young CBs. Jackson has had tight coverage despite his PIs. The 2nd one was tough…I thought it was clean.

    Waldron needs to put juice in the run game. Too much Geno. Pretty boring offense.

    • Hawkster

      Maybe jazz it up with a red zone half-back pass.

      • Big Mike

        You’re hired

      • Seattle Person

        I lied…they also showed a wildcat formation. So creative…

  239. Chris

    This defensive line is so bad at rushing the q.b our db’s are gonna have rough moments.

  240. Palatypus

    Ummmm…Falcons coming back against the Rams???????????????????????????????

  241. ShowMeYourHawk

    The Seahawks today? To quote Dr. Ian Malcolm: “That is one big pile of shit.”

  242. Gross MaToast

    First Coach Fired:

    A. Kliff Kingsbury
    B. Nate Hackett
    C. Frank Reich
    D. Pete Carroll

    Hint: It ain’t Pete.

    • Big Mike

      She will not fire Pete. The only way he’s gone is if he resigns.

      • Big Mike

        By the way, the correct answer is likely to be Reich.

        • Seattle Person

          Are you sure? Arizona has looked like poop this season.

  243. Chris

    At least we don’t have to listen to the media fawn over Pete and his system this week.

    • cha

      Don’t be so sure. Salk actually apologized to Pete for the Buffalo blowout loss a couple years back.

  244. bmseattle

    I realize it doesn’t matter… but… throw the damn ball, Geno!!!

  245. Big Mike

    To use a Rob term……shambolic performance today

    • Palatypus


  246. Matt

    Geno is completing 80% of his passes for a sub 7.0 YPA…the “is he actually great”
    Conversations need to die quickly.

  247. SEAhemoth82

    I think Geno is gonna have to write back this week.

  248. OP_Chillin

    I really think it was wrong to think Geno was going to feed DK and “give him more chances,” than Russ. Good on Tyler for playing well.

  249. cha

    Sometimes I take pride in writing the watch points.

    Other times I hate it when I’m right.

    Play Smart

    SF turnovers: 0
    SEA turnovers: 3

    SF penalties: 1
    SEA penalties: 10

    SF idiotic coaching decisions: 0
    SEA idiotic coaching decisions: many

    Beat Them On the Ground

    SF 189 rushing yards
    SEA 35

    • Scot04

      It was definitely an ugly game.

    • Gross MaToast

      “Idiotic Coaching Decisions” is my new favorite metric.

  250. bmseattle

    Texans are folding in Denver, unfortunately.

  251. Whit21

    Hah.. the denver crowd is synchronizing the countdown of the play clock for russ… thats hilarious..

  252. Palatypus

    If I could go to Pete’s presser, I wouldn’t even ask any questions.

    I’d just throw a red challenge flag every time he opened his mouth.

    • TomLPDX

      Or a rotten tomato

    • bmseattle

      LoL… that’s a great visual.

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