Curtis Allen’s week nine watch notes (vs Ravens)

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen…

No need to mince words.  The Ravens will be the toughest test the Seahawks have faced yet this season.

They might be the most complete team in the NFL.  They currently field the #1 scoring defense, the #3 rushing defense and they lead the NFL in sacks.  On offense?  The Ravens are the #7 scoring offense, featuring the #3 rushing offense.

It will take a complete effort on both sides of the ball to defeat them.  Mistakes must be kept to a minimum.

This team is talented, well-coached and has been able to put game plans together that dictate the pace they want to play at.  They frequently accomplish what Pete Carroll and the Seahawks set out to do:  Run the ball well, be opportunistic in the passing game, build an early lead and pressure the opposing offense into keeping up.  Then deploy a defense that smothers the running game and forces the offense into pass-rush friendly situations.

Here is a shocking stat to let you know just how well that formula is working:  In eight games this year, the Raven defense has been on the field while trailing for a grand total of 21 snaps.  Out of 532 defensive snaps, only 4% of them have been taken while the Ravens were trailing.  That is far and away the lowest number in the NFL.

They are the #1 defense in first quarter points allowed, and the #2 offense in first quarter points scored.

It gives them tremendous leverage over their opponents.  In all six of their wins this year, they have been leading at halftime.  This has allowed them the second-half option to either gear down and protect the lead by defending explosive plays and giving up simpler yards, or to load the box to either stop the run or unleash the blitzing hounds and not fear it burning them too badly.

Is there any good news to be had?  There is.

The Seahawks are right behind the Ravens by a sliver in first quarter scoring, sitting at #3 in the NFL.  Last week they ran up 17 points in the first quarter, and in the three previous weeks they scored a touchdown early on as well.  They will be Baltimore’s biggest test in this specific area.

If Seattle can control the tempo early on, it can disrupt the Raven formula like a grain of sand in a microchip.  They might not be able to be as aggressive on defense and must up their aggressiveness on offense – things they do not like to do.

Also, their defensive effectiveness drops off dramatically from the first half to the second.  Note the splits from Pro Football Reference:

Seven of their nine total touchdowns allowed came after halftime.

They allow a full yard per play more in the second half than the first, and a whopping two yards per play on rushes.  As offenses get more desperate, they throw the ball downfield further, and while they have taken more sacks, they have gained twice as many first downs as in the first half.

So, we think of this game as a real test for the Seahawks.  But it will be a test for the Ravens as well.  If the Seahawks are doing their job, Baltimore may be put in situations they are unaccustomed to.  Having to play and come from behind may force mistakes and otherwise open opportunities for the Seahawks to exploit.

How the Ravens respond – and how the Seahawks then adjust – may decide the game.

The other piece of good news is: The Ravens are not infallible.  They have lost to the Colts and the Steelers this year – who, with all due respect, are no world-beaters – and had a bit of stress in putting away the stubborn 1-6 Cardinals last week.

All three used a similar game pattern that proved effective, and the Seahawks would be well-advised to absorb some of their wisdom into the game plan this week.  What made them so successful against the Ravens?

Be Special on Special Teams

Before we discuss what the three teams did, we need to highlight where the Ravens stand in this area.  I talked about the offense and defense being absolutely fantastic, but ironically, they are very average on Special Teams – a John Harbaugh staple for years – and it has cost them at times.

Kicker Justin Tucker, probably the greatest kicker in NFL history, is perfect on field goal tries from 50 yards in, but in the all-important 50+ yard category?  He is 1 for 4.  True, one was a 59-yard try, the other a 61-yard try.  But neither of those would be near Tucker’s career-long (66 in case you are wondering).  The 61-yarder would have won them the Colts game.  Instead, they went to overtime and the Colts prevailed.  And he did miss a 53-yard try against the Bengals that could have cost them if the defense had not held up.

They have also made mistakes and allowed teams to make significant gains in key Special Teams areas.

How did Indianapolis win the Special Teams battle in their game against Baltimore?  Matt Gay was a perfect 5 for 5 in field goal tries, including nailing 3 from 53 yards, and a fourth from 54.  That is absolutely clutch.  Isaiah McKenzie also aided them with a 32-yard punt return.

How about the Steelers?  Chris Boswell was a perfect 3 for 3 on field goal tries, and then Miles Killebrew blocked a punt which just missed being a touchdown but resulted in a safety.  On the resulting possession they kicked one of those field goals.

And Arizona?  Matt Prater kicked an onside kick late in the game that led to a 47-yard field goal and the Cardinals coming within a touchdown late, and nearly got another one as they tried it again.

In a hard-fought game with a clock-grinding physical team like the Ravens, the difference could come down to special teams.

Jason Myers has been perfect in his last 3 games.  He did miss a 53-yard try in the Giants game, and they took advantage of the good field position to drive into the red zone, but Devon Witherspoon shut that down with his dramatic pick six.

If Myers is the difference, he must be up to the task.  As is Michael Dickson, the cover teams and the returners.

Win the Turnover Battle

This is another uncharacteristic area for the Ravens.  They currently stand at +1 for the season, with their heads barely above water.  They have only managed to lose the turnover battle but win the game once this year.

Against the Colts, Lamar Jackson was careless, getting strip sacked twice.  It cost them once.  They had another fumble lost in the passing game.  The Colts did not commit any turnovers and won that battle 2-0.

The Steelers won 3-1 in this area on the strength of an interception and a late-game T.J. Watt strip sack of Lamar Jackson to seal the win.

The Cardinals lost 2-0 on two Josh Dobbs interceptions that the Ravens converted to touchdowns.  They won by seven points.  Those turnovers were the ballgame.

Lamar Jackson leads the NFL in fumbles with 8.  Many of those are on strip sacks.  The Ravens surely are not happy with it, but when you have a quarterback as dynamic as him, it may simply be viewed as a cost they have to live with.

A related component of success: In the two losses and the Cardinals win, Jackson was sacked 4 times in each game.  Making him uncomfortable and killing drives is critical.

Jordyn Brooks had a strip sack of P.J. Walker last week.  Another one by someone on the defense would go a long, long way towards tilting the formula in the Seahawks’ favor.

Jackson also has 3 interceptions thrown, and the same value applies.  The Seahawks will gladly take an interception on jumping the route, taking advantage of a poor throw or a miscommunication, or a deflection off a player’s head.  Whatever it takes.

On the flip side, Geno Smith must tighten up his play.  We keep seeing highlight reels of him spinning perfect passes into tight windows, and they are amazing.  But somehow his turnover-worthy plays and his poor decisions only make the reels for the opponents.

The biggest component of this need might be managing the Raven pass rush, particularly the blitz.  They blitz a very average 24.9% of the time, right in the middle of the pack in the NFL, and shockingly their pressures are not very great, standing at #25 with only a 19.3% pressure rate so far this season.

So how are they leading the NFL in sacks?  One of the secrets lies in getting good pass rush in their standard packages.

The other is how they blitz.  They have blitzed 14 different players this year, and an incredible 13 different players have sacked the quarterback.  They can disguise it because it is coming from all over the field.

A third is once they get a quarterback in their grasp, they take him down.

Smith will need to be much sharper than he has been, in reading, recognizing and reducing his decision-making time to avoid strip sacks and interceptions.  He will also need to use his feet more readily, whether that is in climbing the pocket, or giving his receivers time to uncover as he did splendidly on plays like this last Sunday:

Be Balanced on Offense and Do Not Stray from the Running Game

The last and perhaps most important factor in being competitive with the Ravens:  Those three teams all ran the ball liberally throughout the game.

Indianapolis ran out a 35/27 run/pass split in their win, Pittsburgh a 30/32 split in theirs, and Arizona had a 32/37 split in theirs for a 97/96 split over the three games.

They ran for 355 yards, a meager 3.65 yards per carry.  But they ran for 23 first downs, and Indy and Arizona won the time of possession game, while the Steelers were slightly behind dead even with the Ravens.

Currently, the Seahawks offense is running an average split of 24/33.  Their rushes per game rank at #21 in the NFL.

They need to take charge of the game by running the ball, even if it means we do not get to see a breathtaking Kenneth Walker explosion.

Balance is critical and it must be maintained against this extremely tough defense.  It accomplishes many good things:  it sets a tone, keeps from giving Geno Smith more than he can handle, it tires the defense out and gives the offensive lineman a chance to power forward instead of backpedaling in pass protection.

If you try to run out a lopsided split, the Ravens will punish you for it.  Let me give you an extreme example of this:  The Raven’s blowout win over the Lions in Week 7.

The Ravens took the kick, and the offense moved down the field and scored a touchdown. 7-0 Baltimore.

The Lions took the kick, ran 2 pass plays and 1 run play and punted.  Jared Goff was sacked, fumbled and the Lions recovered it.  The Ravens took the ball down the field and scored another touchdown. 14-0 Baltimore.

The Lions took the kick, ran 2 pass plays and 1 run play and punted.  The Ravens took the ball down the field and scored another touchdown. 21-0 Baltimore.

The Lions took the kick, ran 2 pass plays and 1 run play and they punted.  Jared Goff was sacked again.  The Ravens took the ball down the field and scored another touchdown. 28-0 Baltimore.

Halfway through the second quarter, a pretty good Lions team was down by four touchdowns and the game was essentially over.  They ended up with a hideous 14/53 split, a Goff was sacked 5 times and threw an interception in a 38-6 humiliation.

I am not saying their play calling was the only reason the Lions lost – their defense also deserves quite a bit of blame.

Nor am I saying you constantly must run a 2 run/1 pass sequence in every single series (in fact, the Cardinals called ten straight pass plays on one of their touchdown drives on that defense).

It is, however, emblematic of what makes the Ravens such a tough opponent.  The game can spiral out of control quickly if you do not recognize their strengths and adapt accordingly.

You must give this defense different looks, but also execute the basics very, very well.

Seattle’s tight ends have been criminally underused so far in the passing game.  Will Dissly and Noah Fant are on track for career-worst seasons of targets.  Colby Parkinson is matching his “third tight end” numbers so far this year.

The offense can run a Twelve Personnel set and open all kinds of options.  Running the same personnel – even lining up the same way – but keeping the defense guessing can pay dividends deep into the game.

Let these tight ends lean on the defense in the running game.  Give D.K. Metcalf a chance to exercise his nasty side and direct some of that unsportsmanlike conduct energy on pushing smaller corners around in the running game downfield.

Establish a tone and then open things up and then sprinkle some finesse into the game with some clever plays to Tyler Lockett and Jaxon Smith-Njigba.

It all starts with basing the plan on your running game.  For the first time, all three running backs were not on the injury report this week.  Games like this are what the Seahawks built up their backfield depth for.  What they drafted maulers like Damien Lewis and Anthony Bradford for.  What they collected tight ends for.

Use them.


  1. Rob Staton

    Apologies this is late today guys

  2. Big Mike

    Thanks Curtis. Excellent as always. With you on needing to run the ball more.
    Ravens would’ve won vs. the stealers had their WRs not dropped 2 sure TDs (or was it 3?). They really should be 7-1. Hawks REALLY have to play well to have a shot at winning today.

  3. Romeo A57

    Good Stuff, run it down their throat!

    The stat that Lamar is 17 and 1 against the NFC has me very concerned. The thought process for this is that his style of play is difficult for defenses who haven’t faced him before.

    I don’t expect much from the Seahawks Offense or Defense today and would like to see them keep it within one score.

  4. 12th chuck

    “It will take a complete effort on both sides of the ball ” that’s only happened a few times in 2 years against bad teams. Don’t think that will happen today. But on the plus side, seahawks play up to the completion, also play down to it as well.

  5. MontanaMike

    Geno has to be good today and not his mediocre to poor from the last few weeks, as far as acquiring Leonard Williams, i hope it pays immediate dividends today, i too lament the cost of a second rounder but see him as a Justin Smith type that does all the dirty work so that an Alton Smith can get all the stats. we do have the pieces and are fairly complete, so if everyone can put it together today, i like our chances. Run the ball whenever possible but you have to mix it up or it won’t work, I hope we see more Jake Bobo and JSN showing up because teams don’t seem to account for them as much. Lastly i hope Pete doesn’t lose the game by doing stupid Pete things and is able to do what he does best.

  6. Big Mike

    Hey geoff u

    Just saw your comment on the last thread about your collection of ref jerseys and being particularly proud of your Bill Leavy #127.

    So very well played man!

  7. Mick

    Thanks cha. Unfortunately Bradford isn’t playing today, and I’m afraid we’ll miss him in the running game.

  8. ShowMeYourHawk

    If I can see OBJ throwing tantrums today… it’ll likely be a quality result.

  9. RMK-LouCityHawk

    Watched my Hoosiers defy expectations yesterday and earn a win against Wisconsin, the defense largely looking inspired by Carter, their heart and soul.

    CHA is 100% correct that this will take a balanced, full team effort. I can’t shake the feeling that if one player can elevate their game today and inspire their teammates to do more, it will be Boye Mafe.

  10. Romeo A57

    Disappointing that JSN couldn’t haul in that 3rd down pass

  11. Big Mike

    Dial up an excellent play on third and medium, Geno with a perfect pass, ffs JSN catch the ball.

  12. ShowMeYourHawk

    Best defensive series of the season, considering the opposition?

  13. Big Mike

    Well we are winning the Battle of field position. Pete must be ecstatic

  14. BrandoK

    Why is Bradford inactive for the game is he injured?

  15. bmseattle

    extend Bellore!

  16. bmseattle

    reed is playing so well, it’s crazy

  17. Mick

    D are holding their ground, looking really solid.

  18. BrandoK

    Good defensive stop

  19. Big Mike

    Is that punt sucked…… For us

  20. Romeo A57

    Very impressed with the Seahawks Defense in this First Quarter.

    • cha

      Let’s see what happens when the Ravens get in gear. Their offense has sputtered and Lamar has made some mistakes he shouldn’t so far.

      • Romeo A57

        CHA- I expect a Ravens blowout as I believe they are a step above the Seahawks on both sides of the ball.

        I am pleasantly surprised that the Seahawks are hanging around so far.

  21. ShowMeYourHawk

    Great start to the game for the defense. Really hope they can adjust, once Baltimore does.

  22. Big Mike

    Did Stone get hurt? I know he started at right tackle

    • bmseattle

      I think they are rotating at RT

    • Scot04

      They’re rotating like last week. I’m not a fan.
      Two straight penalties on Peters. One canceled out by the sack.
      Personally I’d prefer they just leave Forsythe in.

      • Big Mike

        Completely agree

  23. pran

    Shane and Geno…sucks to see all the talent wasted.

  24. BrandoK

    Jason peters looks bad out there

  25. ShowMeYourHawk

    Listless offense. Where’s DK? We saving him for a 40yd bomb later on?

    • Pran

      Shane and Geno hit their ceiling.

      • Romeo A57

        Geno is “The Governor ” for this offense.

  26. bmseattle

    Ah… the “natural” pick!

  27. ShowMeYourHawk

    Asking the defense to keep up their hot start for three straight series was a bridge too far. Offense needs to step up or the game gets out of hand by the 3rd.

    • Henry Taylor

      I mean, the score is still 0-0 I don’t know that it’s come to that.

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        0-7. Offense needs to respond.

      • Pran

        Well…Ravens offense adjusted. happily running the ball all over and occasional checkdown…

  28. bmseattle

    is it wise to have Taylor in the game at the goalline?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      …or in any non 3rd-and-long situation?

  29. Rob Staton

    Could be a long game this

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Both teams run, so not literally, but definitely one where we’re lamenting the pounding for the entire second half.

    • Troy

      My thoughts exactly…

    • bmseattle

      Actually, the way the Ravens run the ball, I could see it moving along fairly swiftly.

    • Romeo A57

      With the mess of an offensive line, and Geno Smith as Quarterback against a top Defensive Team in the NFL, it could get real ugly.

  30. BrandoK

    Can the offense do anything

  31. Scot04

    I’d like to see them stick with 1 RT. Stop the rotation.

  32. bmseattle

    The Ravens run defense is their “weakness”, but we can’t even run the ball decently so far.

  33. Big Mike

    Ravens only have 3 more road games the rest of the season? Can you say home field advantage

  34. Big Mike

    Such a good thing we spend a second round draft choice that we might have needed to get a real quarterback on another defensive lineman. It is past time for a new regime with this team

    • bmseattle

      If only someone could have anticipated this.

  35. Pran

    Bench Geno

  36. ShowMeYourHawk

    Ladies and gentlemen, your reigning comeback player of the year. 🤦🏽‍♂️ FFS

  37. BrandoK

    Wow ok Geno

  38. Kyle R

    Lol Geno is such a piece of crap

    • Pran

      John and Pete mortgaging draft for this shit of play from the most important position …. lol

  39. BrandoK

    Geno is just terrible this is going to be a long long game

    • Kyle R

      He is who we thought he pre 2022. If he can’t succeed with these weapons there is no other situation he could.

  40. bmseattle

    Bad Geno?
    Or just… career Geno?

  41. Sean

    Geno what was that

  42. AlexHawk

    It’s these games against the real contenders that really drive home that you need a good QB!

  43. geoff u

    It’s a shame Leonard Williams wasn’t on the field to prevent that interception. Why do we never use our players correctly?

    • geoff u

      Both Genos with four consecutive games with a pick.

  44. dand393

    You could see pre snap that Lockett had no idea what the play call got changed too not surprised that was a pick

    • Pran

      Geno telegraphs plays to Defense better than own offense

    • bmseattle

      So, who’s fault is that?

    • Big Mike

      Then throw the damned ball away

  45. 12th chuck

    time to bench Geno

  46. Leo

    I’ve never seen a Seahawk protected more by fans and media than Geno, it’s unbearable at this point. It’s like he’s the little kid playing with high-schoolers that we have to be nice to so that he doesn’t run home crying to mommy.

  47. MaxInVan

    I don’t understand Waldron man. 3 and manageable, you NEED a first down. Has 3 players in routes and a long developing play.

    • Kyle R

      I’ve noticed that too. Baltimore is consistently bringing more guys than we can block. Need quick developing plays and blitz beater routes.

      • MaxInVan

        It’s really basic. Quick developing concepts and getting the QB outside the pocket. It’s how you beat blitzing

  48. geoff u

    At least Boye Mafe is legit

  49. ShowMeYourHawk

    Mafe stays the bloodletting. Great play, young man!

  50. BrandoK

    Mafe is too good

  51. pdway

    Mafe gonna make the pro bowl

    • Big Mike

      Deserves it

  52. Palatypus

    I had to walk the dog.

    What did I miss?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Geno being Geno. That’s all you need.

    • Big Mike

      You missed Pete Carroll using a backup quarterback while wasting second round draft choices that might be used to get someone that isn’t a backup to run his offense

      • 509 Chris

        💯 Mike

  53. Big Mike

    I utterly seahawks. The defense finally turns the corner and the offense turns to crap

  54. Ttoy

    The offense hasn’t gotten off the plane apparently? What a joke!

  55. BrandoK

    Seattle needs to draft a QB

  56. Pran

    can we bring some mobile QB…Geno the statue does not have brain to use checkdowns nor can scramble. play calling does not help either

  57. bmseattle

    It’s debatable whether DK can be a true #1 receiver… but we pay him like one, and don’t use him like one.

    • Pran

      he isn’t #1 unfortunately…

  58. 12th chuck

    can we bench Waldron?

    • Troy

      Maybe try some quick passes?

    • 509 Chris

      Ya this play calling is very uninspired. They have to find ways to move Geno out of the pocket and create some time.

      • Big Mike


    • Pack of K9s

      God I wish Pete Carroll would meddle with the offense. I am so content with 3 straight runs and a 3 and out on 3rd and 1 instead of a 4th and 15 where we lose the special teams battle

  59. Joe

    A week 6 debut of a rookie Levis w/ these weapons………… oh well

  60. Troy

    Blowout brewing…

  61. ShowMeYourHawk

    Win or lose, if I can see Spoon decleat OBJ once, I’ll sleep okay tonight.

  62. MaxInVan

    Mario Edwards has been held every play this series

  63. Troy

    9 TDs, 7 INTs. Not good enough

  64. Troy

    Baltimore going to rush for 250+ today

    • Big Mike

      Wait a minute I thought we were good against the run now?

      • James

        Those picks were spent sooOOOOooooo well…

  65. Pran

    guess what…Baltimore does not need to throw the ball. our pass D is holding up well today and Harbaugh keeps running until you stop. only turnovers can save the day for Hawks..

  66. 12th chuck

    2nd game in a row where j adams is absent.

    • Big Mike

      Hes had one good game as a seahawk and that was the first game he played against Atlanta he has done nothing since then….. When hes even played

  67. James

    The Seahawks are “light work” for the Ravens…

    • Troy

      Yep. Seattle is so undisciplined on defense. Over pursue everything.

  68. Rob Staton

    Getting exposed here

    We are not a contender

    • bmseattle

      In retrospect, I’m grateful that we didn’t send a 1st round pick for Williams.
      I have zero doubt we would have done it, if pressed.

    • Big Mike

      Like most of us thought this is about a 500 team

    • jed

      Just came here to say the same thing.

      Huge difference between Geno and a real franchise QB. Huge difference between a good team and a real contender.

    • Pran

      the mighty rush D is not so much mighty… this D is bang average good teams can pick their poison and move the ball at will..

    • Pack of K9s

      Do you blame Geno or the OC more? Dreadul performance from both imo but Geno aint it

  69. ShowMeYourHawk

    Trash. Utter trash.

  70. 509 Chris

    Glad we just invested important capital into shoring up the middle of the defense.

    Stupid undisciplined penalties have been a problem lately.

  71. Troy

    Must pass now. Cue Geno for a few more turnovers.

  72. Big Mike

    Plenty of time here for the Seahawks to go 3 and out the Ravens to score again then get the second half kick off and score again to make it about 24 to nothing

  73. MaxInVan

    Zietler gets beaten by reed on a swim, turn around and hugs him by the waist and no flag

    • bmseattle

      yeah, reed was complaining to the ref about it.

  74. Palatypus

    This is about how I thought this game would go.

    • Big Mike


  75. Tony

    This was totally expected. But we don’t build our team to win a super bowl. We build it to win just enough to sneak into playoffs.

    • Big Mike

      And that’s good enough for far too many Seattle sports fans

  76. dand393

    Sure looked like metcalf could have gained at least an additional 5 yards on that play instead of going out of bounds untouched

    • Pran

      its okay…he used to fight for extra and lose the ball

      • dand393

        Actually good point

    • bmseattle

      Only excuse is that he is still nursing an injury.

  77. 509 Chris

    Do we have anything to lose by seeing what Lock can do? I know Geno just found Metcalf but I’d like to see what the other guy can do.

    • Big Mike

      A lot of us would but Pete will never do it. You will only see it if Geno gets hurt

  78. Big Mike

    If Geno throws that better it’s a touchdown. DK was open

    • Pran

      Geno is throwing low at the feet too much these last few weeks..probably trying to avoid picks.

      • dand393

        And it’s still not helping in that category haha

        • bmseattle

          actually, it probably is!

          • Pran

            Ravens scored enough to win the game.. we can call it a day and save some time n headache

  79. ShowMeYourHawk


  80. Troy

    Our offensive line is getting DOMINATED.

  81. 509 Chris

    Why does Geno get so many balls batted down? An xs os guy might know but I dont.

    • Pran

      he is short like Russ right..

  82. nfendall

    They HAVE to turn this turnover into a touchdown.

    • Romeo A57

      Love to see OBJ fumble the ball. He is insufferable. More mouth than production.

    • Mick

      Not sure we have time. I’d take 3 points.

      • nfendall

        3 would have better than nothing but they only had to go 40 yards in 49 seconds. There was plenty of time. Geno can’t get rid of the ball though.

  83. Pran

    Jittery Geno keeps giving… i am not sure what Pete and John saw in the first 8 weeks to mortgage draft…

  84. Tony

    Can we please have lock now. So done with geno.

    • James

      Makes you wonder how much worse it has to get for Pete to do something about it.

  85. KennyBadger

    The OL is getting the business but ffs geno.

    • Big Mike

      Yep it’s both

    • bmseattle

      the thing is…we knew this was our offensive line. It’s not a surprise… or shouldnt be.

  86. Leo

    Geno looking an awful lot like Tarvaris Jackson…would really love to have our second-rounder to take a punt on a toolsy QB prospect…

  87. ShowMeYourHawk

    Geno, they’re writing back, homie.

  88. MaxInVan

    Our running backs have been TERRIBLE in blitz pickup this season. Like seriously. No awareness whatsoever

  89. Troy

    Games are won (and lost) in the trenches. We getting manhandled.

  90. 509 Chris


  91. Tony

    Turning the ball over for ravens actually was the plan. Ravens knew the defense would be more efficient gaining yards

    • 12th chuck


  92. MattG

    Ravens defense got some good yardage on that drive.

  93. Palatypus

    I am Van Noyed with Geno.

    • UkAlex6674


      It’s bad enough before his plays as this gsme is getting Oweh from us.

  94. HOUSE

    Geno now has 8 TOs in the past 4 games… CHA mentioned above we gotta win the TO battle and giving up an INT and a fumble in the 1st ain’t good

  95. SimonGER

    The only question I have after two quarters of that debacle: Why in gods name did they not draft a QB in last years draft? I mean, are they so sure, that there is a QB in this class that is in reach, that is better than a Will Levis who they could have taken in the late first round/beginning of the second round after a trade down? Just curious…

    • Troy

      Geno is bad, but his offensive line has been worse

      • bmseattle

        Well, we didn’t draft an Offensive lineman high, either.
        And we won’t with our native 2nd rounder in 2024.

      • SimonGER

        Tbh, yes this line is getting dominated in this game. But still, lot of those batted down passes, dropbacks etc. are on Geno I feel like..

  96. dragonhawk

    It’s all up to Pete to correct the personnel on the field….nothing else to say

  97. Rob Staton

    Nobody criticise Geno, you’ll just be confirming your priors remember

    • Palatypus

      My criminal record in Florida has nothing to do with this.

    • Rokas

      Geno is bloody aweful. So is our oline.

    • dragonhawk

      This is embarrassing…it all went downhill for Geno from Germany and it hasn’t been the same ever since.

    • bmseattle

      I’m coming up with an extensive list of reasons that Geno isn’t at fault for anything.

  98. Dustin

    Geno sux. Time to put him on the bench.

  99. Kyle R

    I really want to see what we have in Lock the rest of the year so we can see if he’s a suitable bridge. We know what we have in Geno by now and I don’t want him even if he’s only ask for 5 million next year let alone anything more than that.

  100. Rob Staton

    So glad we’re only a player away and went and got him this week!

    • Big Mike


    • bmseattle

      Williams is really freeing up everyone else to make big plays, isn’t he?

      Has he done… anything at all?

      • Pran

        Can Williams play QB

  101. Pran

    may win 2 more games at best 3….2 good drafts team is decent and back to old ways. i am not sure we can see a contending team again under Pete…just do enough to be in the middle to not lose job.

    • pdway

      oh come on…..

      The Ravens are just better than us. Doesn’t mean we have a terrible team that is going to lose 8 out of the next 10 games.

      • bmseattle

        there actually *is* a blueprint for beating the Ravens (see Colts), and it’s by running the ball.
        We have given up on that already.

      • Big Mike


        Would you be surprised with losses to the niners twice, the eagles and the cowboys? And don’t forget the rams cause McVay owns Caroll lock stock and barrel.
        That’s 5 very possible losses.

      • Pran

        you are playing most of those games against contenders…

      • geoff u

        Have you seen our remaining schedule? If we lose this, 9-8 or 8-9 is the most likely outcome.

  102. Kyle R

    And for the love of God get a QB for the future in this draft!!

  103. mantis

    Geno is playing horrible but the line is just as bad, putting Lock in could ruin his confidence and where do we go from there

    • pdway

      I don’t know who we think is going to come in and excel at QB in a game where their D-line is dominating ours….Geno isn’t killing it, but this isn’t close to being all on him.

      Ravens are GOOD.

    • Dustin

      Leaving Geno out there to play like this will also ruin his confidence. A benching can do him some good.

  104. 509 Chris

    Regardless of how much better the qbs are this year or next year or 2027 or whatever, 2022 was when this team had the capital. I seriously fear that the fan base will look back on that draft and see passing on qb as catalyst to the coming mediocrity.

  105. ShowMeYourHawk

    Remember when we were told “we have two Number 1 QBs?” But….. we keep Geno in because…..?

    “Always complete…” I guess.

    • Brodie


  106. ScandicHawk

    You gotta give Drew a shot in the 2nd half, not because the back up qb is always the most popular player on the team, but because: a seriously underrated part of quarterbacking is getting rid of the ball quickly and Geno is not processing defenses fast enough. And when he has a great play call, like the slant or post by Metcalf (couldn’t see where Metcalf was lined up pre-snap on my computer), butMetcalf IS WIDE OPEN IN THE ENDZONE. Geno throws a 58 foot fastball, or more like a change up, really.

    That is a throw you have to hit, not many coming in this game against this defense. I’m not sure about Waldron as our OC, but that play looked scouted and schemed open. Geno blew it.

    Drew also has legs. We’re gonna need them against this defense.

  107. Mick

    Well it’s a reality check, and we should ask ourselves if Shane is the right call, if Geno will be worth so much money next year, and how do we kick the right gear in the running game.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Should Waldron and Geno “accidentally” fall out of the plane on the ride back, we’ll weep for them, briefly.

    • Mychestisbeastmode

      There is zero % chance that Geno gets that money next year. (Based on his performance thus far).

    • Pran

      Hope some team makes Shane the HC and he takes Geno with him…just like McDaniels and Garropolo…

  108. 12th chuck

    Geno is who we thought he was. Pete Carroll needs to bench him for all the turnovers, flat out, plain and simple. What do we have to lose by letting Drew paly at this point?

  109. Blitzy the Clown

    The difference between the Ravens and Seahawks from 1st to 2nd quarter?

    The Ravens coaching staff implemented effective adjustments. Seahawks coaches did not.

    Also, how does Geno not see the defender standing right in front of him? 3 blocked passes in a half? C’mon man.

    Starting to sour significantly on the Williams trade and the whole FO in general.

    • 12th chuck

      Inability to adjust during the game has been going on for several years now. You can get rid of O and D coordinators all you want, the lack of adjustments have not changed at all.

  110. dragonhawk

    Do you really think that Pete is going to bench Geno? Place your bets!

    • Big Mike

      ZERO chance

    • Troy

      It’s all about the ball is a theme of his program. 2-3 turnovers a week can’t be sitting well you’d think?

    • Palatypus

      I bet 80 Million Imperial credits that he plays the whole game.

    • Pran

      Pete plays favorites and comPETE for others

    • geoff u

      If we lose to Commanders and Geno doesn’t play well, I could see it. If we win that, then lose to the Rams, 49ers, Cowboys, I could see it happening for the next 49er game at week 14.

  111. CL

    Can y’all stop hating Geno already?

    • 6 for 14
    • 93 passing yards
    • 1 INT
    • 1 lost fumble
    • 35.7 passer rating

    • Peter

      Confirming my priors.

  112. STTBM

    This is coaching at its worst. Kindergarten level routes by receivers, no adjutments to deal with the rush, going fo low percentage deep passes on third and short even though that has repeatedly failed this year.

    The defense is a mess, despite obvious contributions from so many players.

    Seattles Oline is not getting it done, coaches not helping them out at all.

    Ive wanted Carrol out since 2017. I see nothing to change my mind.

    I dot think any OC will succeed with Carrol as coach.

    • 805Hawk

      It’s as if I wrote this myself. Perfectly stated.

    • Big Mike

      Could not possibly agree with you any more on every point you made. Been calling for Carroll’s firing for about that long myself. Won’t happen cuz she won’t pay someone to not work. We are stuck with this crap until she sells, whenever that might be.

  113. Kyle R

    Pete has been a hypocrite for a while now. It’s has been about competition or who’s the best at their position for a while now. Other wise the safety, QB and Haynes at guard situation would be different.

    • Big Mike


      • Peter

        Why is Haynes playing. Bradford hurt?

        Hawkblogger trying to tell me whomever is cheaper between leisure or Haynes next year is fine….Haynes is always hurt.

  114. Romeo A57

    FFS what Run Defense was that to start the second half?

  115. James

    A real man just ran right over your vaunted young defensive backs.

  116. Redhawks

    Defense keeping us in it. Feel it could get ugly though.

    • STTBM

      Defense going to give up over 30 points and 250 rushing yards…

      How is that keeping us in it?!

      • bmseattle

        the one thing is, the defense has caused a couple of turnovers that could have “kept us in it”, if we’d been able to capitalize.

  117. STTBM

    Pete going to blame the loss on not running the ball enough. Wait and see….

    So frustrating….

  118. Kyle R

    Smart pass by Baltimore on 3rd downs. They can settle for field goals the rest of the game don’t risk anything. No way this offense can over come this lead against that defense.

  119. BrandoK

    How long is Pete going to keep sticking with Geno?

    • Kyle R

      At the very least until the Hawks are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs

    • bmseattle

      It will take multiple games in a row of multiple turnovers that are clearly Geno’s fault.
      then… maybe.

  120. BrandoK

    Geno is Trash

  121. Big Mike

    O-line getting totally owned along with the QB sucking on the rare occasion they don’t.

  122. Kyle R

    Another reason I’d like to see Lock is because I want to see how much of this is on Waldron as well.

  123. David Ashton

    Feels like they mailed this one in!!

  124. Troy

    This team is a f*c*king pretender and far from a contender. What a pathetic showing..

    Last post for me today. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday everyone.

    • Big Mike

      Hoping to enjoy the Eagles beating the Cowboys

  125. Redhawks

    With zero offense including 2 bad turnovers, those 2 big defensive plays have prevented this from being a rout. Atm it looks like it will end that way anyway. We are supposed to be an explosive offense with a middle defense, but we aren’t getting anything from our O. Tbh, when Ravens are playing peak, we are nowhere near them.

  126. STTBM

    Eskridge cannot play football. He cant even play gunner.
    Were a better team with him inactive. He’ll be lucky to be on a PS next year at this rate.

  127. Gross MaToast

    You guys keep blaming Geno, but the Ravens are out there doing stuff to confuse him and stuff. Plus, I’ll bet Pete says tomorrow that this wasn’t the defense they saw on tape. I’m almost certain that Shane Norton Jr probably had a great game plan for the defense they saw on tape. Now he looks stupid. Let’s blame the Ravens for doing tricky stuff.

  128. Big Mike

    Hey Peter if you’re out there, how about coming in and telling us what the genius Dave Wyman is blaming this performance on. Sun in their eyes? Jet lag (even tho they usually win at 10 AM on the east coast)?

    • Kyle R

      I’m not listening to Wyman but let me take a shot. “You know it’s hard getting up for a game going back to your regular uniform after you played last game in those sweet throw back uniforms.”

  129. ShowMeYourHawk

    “I just need to be better.” – Geno, at the fourth consecutive postgame presser.

    • cha

      Followed by Pete and Bobby praising him for saying it and that they respect him even more now.

    • Tony

      And a reporter should follow with, what if you cant?

    • Kyle R

      I would follow that up with. “You been saying that for 4 games now so why haven’t you?” “What is preventing you from doing better?”

  130. bmseattle

    More…or Any… Bobo!

  131. MaxInVan

    What is Waldron’s plan? Play calling has been atrocious. All 22 will show a lot, but really other than the pick and one of the sacks, I think it’s really hard to pin stuff on geno. Just not a good offensive performance. And to be fair, I do want a new QB, but there are bigger questions to answer in regards to the OC

  132. Anthony

    Well there appears to be no doubt that the Seahawks are cutting Geno after the season. No team in the NFL will sign him for anything more than 10 million.

    • bmseattle

      come now… that has never stopped us from signing guys before!

    • geoff u

      So what you’re saying is, we’ll extend him for even more money?

  133. geoff u

    Dre’mont Jones finally makes a play, but for the Ravens

  134. cha

    And there is Jamal Adams making a form tackle and then getting up and barking at the Raven sideline.

    • bmseattle

      why doesn’t Adams just head the ball again?

  135. Big Mike

    Undisciplined Jr. High football by Jones. What a joke.
    Well coached my ass Romo

  136. Pran

    Draymont Jones feeling it…

  137. nfendall

    So undisciplined.

  138. ShowMeYourHawk

    Jones has been a MASSIVE bust.

    • bmseattle

      don’t worry, after we extend Williams and Reed, Jones will be the 3rd highest paid DT on the team next year.

  139. BrandoK

    This game keeps getting worse

  140. Palatypus

    What’s that smell?

    • Romeo A57

      The smell of a dead offense.

      • geoff u

        No offense, but that stinks. Or no offense, that stinks.

  141. Mick

    Jordyn keeps making plays in the meanwhile.

  142. Tony

    Dre Jones makes me hate his contract more every game

    • STTBM

      Pretty sure Quentin Jefferson outplayed Jones this year…

  143. Big Mike

    Jamal makes a couple of decent plays but then whiffs on the tackle allowing them to get to 4th and 1 instead of 4th and 6.

  144. nfendall

    Let’s have nobody within 10 yards of their primary pass catcher on 3rd and 18. Brilliant.

  145. Palatypus

    When Shane Waldron and Tyson Bagent are hoisting the Vince Lombardi trophy for the Raiders next year, we’re going to have a good laugh over this.

  146. Big Mike

    Adams doing the dancing “blitz”.

    • Pran

      Just cant take Pete’s contempt for fans …

    • Pran

      Just cant take Pete’s contempt for fans … they aren’t even trying on offense.

  147. BrandoK

    I have no joy in watching this team anymore

    • STTBM

      Nope. This is just bad football, poorly coached, poorly executed.

      At least Chuck Knox had them play tough, fisciplined football–even with no moneyto spend on players.
      PC and JS maxing the cap out, but fielding worse teams.

  148. Pran

    Beckham is perfect high energy player for Pete like Adams

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Perfect comparison. Two players more about celebrating themselves and sparsely contributing on the field.

      • Big Mike

        Well said.

      • Tony

        I’m no Adams fan, but at least he plays hard. More than I can say for Diggs & Jones

  149. Big Mike

    Did they abandon the Spoon blitzes so Adams can get more “blitzes”?

    • Peter

      Pretty glad to not hear Wyman this week.

      Pretty over hearing how much better the d plays with adams out there.

  150. MaxInVan

    Drives me nuts that there hasn’t been an offensive penalty called against Baltimore’s OL today. Countless missed holds, several OPI or illegal man down field. Obviously not the reason why we are losing but it makes a defense that has played pretty decent given what’s happening on the other side of the ball lol worse

    • JC3

      40 yards total without DK’s catch & run for the day.

  151. Rob Staton

    Can they stop talking about Geno Smith like it’s week four in 2022 on the broadcasts.

    • bmseattle

      I was just thinking the same thing!
      What is with this narrative?
      It’s been played out for a year now!

    • Romeo A57

      I was just about to post something similar. Geno is not good today, just be honest about that. Sure the offensive line is atrocious today which isn’t helping.

  152. Blitzy the Clown

    Honestly, I’m pissed they’re rolling with Peters instead of Forsythe

    I think Forsythe is better right now. But regardless, one has a future and one doesn’t. The insistence of the FO to roll with dead end players to the detriment of young emerging talent is one of their worst failings

    • geoff u

      100%. 41 year old Peters should be the emergency plan.

  153. Redhawks

    They look like Michigan, stealing our signals lol

    • bmseattle

      We are very easy to diagnose.
      Waldren is not good.

    • pdway

      came here to post the same thing – – their defense is just a step ahead of us at every turn.

      Totally being outsmarted here.

  154. Big Mike

    Another turnover worthy play he lucked out on

  155. geoff u

    Geno completely blows that read and hands it off, then almost throws a pick six. Things are looking up!

  156. Robert

    Bench Geno.

    • Dustin

      bUt hoW do YoU knOW LocK wiLl dO Any BetTer????

  157. BrandoK

    Geno with more terrible plays and Pete still sticks with him saying hes the guy

  158. ScandicHawk

    Gotta try Drew. Nothing to lose at this point and see what he has, if anything, to offer besides Geno…. and next year.

  159. Kyle R

    Had the RB on a flat wheel route where he didn’t have to throw against the blitz but hey a floater to the numbers for an almost pick 6 is the better call Geno.

  160. STTBM

    This offense is the worst in the NFL since Greg Knapp and Jim Mora were stinking the NFL up. At least they could move the ball in garbage time when down multiple TDs. Waldron and Carrol cant even do that.

    This coaching staff is an absolute travesty and embarrassment.

  161. dand393

    I mean honestly at what point does Pete make a change at QB if he’s worried it will hurt Genos Confidence I think we’re way past that point just try something

    • Big Mike

      Yeah I think his confidence is likely gone now.

    • BrandoK

      From Pete’s perspective Genos the franchise QB the next coming, all pro, and pro bowler but thats not reality tho

  162. ShowMeYourHawk

    Only half serious but I don’t think I’d object if Pete just forfeited the rest of the game to avoid injuries. The sooner they can get back on the plane and dissecting how poorly they prepared, the better.

    • Kyle R

      I’m asking this in all honesty. What changes or lessons do you think this coaching staff with make or take away ? It’s been the same shit different day when it’s come to issues and problems and they are never fixed.

  163. geoff u

    Jamaal Adams running like Jake Bobo’s 40 time

    • Big Mike

      How much we payin’ him again?

    • bmseattle

      Not even Woolen could make up ground against that RB

      • geoff u

        That’s true. I actually like Adams the player, though I hated trading for him and paying him so much. None of that is on him.

  164. Big Mike

    What an utter embarrassment

  165. Redhawks

    Embarrassing now

  166. Mick

    Can’t remember last time we looked that awful.

    • STTBM

      Rams game.

  167. David Ashton

    Adams sleepwalking his way to a trillion dollars

  168. Big Mike

    Has our 2nd round rental recorded a pressure yet? Maybe one?

    • bmseattle

      I bet Hawkblogger has noticed all sorts of impact plays he’s had.

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        How? He’s been spending the game trying to calculate exactly how to excuse Geno.

  169. Pran

    Pete and his coaches can stay behind in Baltimore with their fav’s

  170. BrandoK

    Geno’s still the QB why

  171. Joe


    The Seahawks are the Groundhog Day of the NFL, same ol crap since 2017……

    • Big Mike



    • bmseattle

      I wish they’d realized this *before* the trade deadline.

      • Pran

        Kyle Shanny played Hawks without even playing a game against.

  172. geoff u

    Let’s not lose sight of the fact that we are the better team, it’s just that the Raven’s wanted it more.

    • ShowMeYourHawk


    • Peter


  173. Romeo A57

    Do I have permission from everyone to switch to Red Zone Channel, or do I have watch what is going to be a miserable 4th Quarter for the Seahawks?

    • geoff u

      I’m out of market and they swiiched to Bears/Saints. You know it’s bad when they say, “Here, watch the Bears instead.”

  174. Gross MaToast

    Pete is wearing his “confused” face. That’s a bad sign.

    • cha

      “I don’t recognize _____ “

    • bmseattle

      You mean his slack-jawed, vacant look?

  175. Kyle R

    Why not both? Lol

  176. STTBM

    So impressed with Baltimores blitzes and adaptive offense.

    Id kill to have a coaching staff like that.

    • Mick

      Was just thinking maybe we can get a Pete replacement from Baltimore in some while.

  177. geoff u

    Remember when we had that years long stretch where we’d never lose a game by more than one score and we were always in every game? That started when we got a franchise quarterback.

  178. ShowMeYourHawk

    You know the worst part? We can’t even have the hope of a hack-and-slash rebuild, as Pete’s job will be safe for as long as he wants to keep getting paid for mediocre returns.

    • Big Mike

      you are sadly correct

  179. bmseattle

    Ah, it’s the ol’ “just chuck it downfield” offense!

  180. nfendall

    Waldron default play call – Sideline go route. So innovative.

  181. Pran

    All the wins against backup QBs except Goff. loses against Stafford, Burrow, Lamar.

    Lions win is courtesy their HCs aggressiveness on 4th downs even though Hawks scored.

    next 2 wins are against.. Commanders and Cardinals. All the other teams have franchise QBs or starting QBs with better D.

    • Big Mike

      Will pull one out unexpectedly and finish 8-9 or pull 2 out and finish 9-8 and get the last WC and Wyman, Hawkblogger and a huge portion of Seattle sports fans will slobber all over Pete for what a remarkable coach he is.

  182. Thomas

    Well… they went win now mode with Geno.

    What do you do? They can still limp into the playoffs with him and hope something happens.

    Look, I know the old thing about the backup QB being super popular when the starter isn’t good, but I don’t think it’s as clear cut that Geno was hands down better than Lock. It’s not like Lock is Kyle Allen or something.

    It’s just Geno seemed like a safer bet. He’s also popular in the locker room.

    It kind of feels like we could be eliminated from the playoffs and continue to start Geno. The rationale would be that Geno is signed for next year and Pete wants the team to come together more or something.

    I fear you’re looking at your starting qb for next year and no contract renegotiation. Full price, just like Adams.

    • geoff u

      You start the backup to see what he’s got and if he can be a franchise QB. It’s very likely he’s worse than Geno, but only one way to find out.

  183. Peter

    Really enjoyed the dark horse superbowl predictors from hawks-verse this week. Thank God this is week 9 and not ya know…the actual superbowl watching this garbage.

  184. Hawks4life

    Geno is bad, Waldron is bad, Pete is tired, we are tired.

  185. STTBM

    Seattles ceiling is 9-8 this year. They have a good shot at ending up 7-10. I dont think Playoffs are a part of their future.

  186. Kyle R

    It sucks being a Seattle football and baseball fan because ownership only strive for mediocrity.

  187. geoff u

    Stroud has a crappy team and o-line and no run game and has thrown 1 interception all year. Texans will be force next year.

    • DC

      Stroud looks great. Great decision making and throws such a beautiful ball.

  188. Tony

    That geno stone safety is really good. He must be getting like 30+m a yr.

  189. Pran

    So disrespecful… Ravens are playing their backup QB before ours

  190. Robert

    Well, CBS just changed the game to the Chicago and New Orleans game.

  191. Mick

    Zero run D all game.

  192. bmseattle

    the ultimate insult… putting in their backup QB against us with 12 minutes left in the game

    • Big Mike

      well said

    • Pran

      may be Pete will now protect Geno for next game

    • bmseattle

      I stand corrected… the ultimate insult is their backup QB coming into the game with 12 minutes left and immediately leading a TD drive against us.

  193. ShowMeYourHawk

    Well, CBS has decided that the game is no longer beneficial to show in my region. Praise be, I’m out.

    • Romeo A57

      I wish they would do that here but it won’t happen.

    • icb12

      Same. Guess I have to go snowblow the drive now.

  194. Big Mike

    270 on the groun d today huh? Good thing we got that run D fixed

    • bmseattle

      but, imagine how much worse it would have been without Leonard Williams.

    • Peter

      It’s almost like playing against absolutely zero running backs anyone respects and Carolina, etc, running like 15x a game…..might have not made the greatest stats.

      Skip on the Montgomery replies. Dude was running great til brooks tweaked his leg for him.

  195. Peter

    Tomorrow’s talking point today:

    Today’s list does not really matter guys. It’s actually only bad if it’s in conference or division.

    This loss is more like an international friendly if you really think about it.

    • Big Mike

      We just gotta tweak a couple of things

  196. HOUSE

    How about we just sign Huntley at QB? He is definitely going to be cheaper than Geno

  197. BrandoK

    This team passes the eye test to be superbowl bound

    • Peter

      Agreed. The Ravens all aboard the superbowl train.

      • Kyle R

        To be fair the Ravens are going to need to prove it against better teams than Seattle 😂

  198. KennyBadger

    Atta boy Dee.

  199. nfendall

    Can we just cut Eskridge? He brings absolutely nothing to this team.

  200. Romeo A57

    I expected a loss today but letting OBJ score is just adding salt to the wound.

  201. BrandoK

    So Geno’s still in the game like why

  202. nfendall

    Always compete baby!

  203. cha

    Raible: is Geno coming back in for this series? He is.

    Wayman: he needs the reps.

    • Pran

      Pete should do a special show with Wyman

      • Kyle R

        Key word for both of them is “special”

      • geoff u

        Where 90% of the time they talk about linebackers and how great is it to have Bobby Wagner back?

  204. Rokas

    Geno is the worst player by far today, and we will address this after the end of the season.
    However, i hope we will talk some other points as well today:
    – our oline is bottom 8th in allowing pressures before today (i expect it will get worse after today), how confident we are about our bookened-tackles going into the future?
    – why nobody can get open except Lockett?
    – how on earth Waldron is not prepared for constant blitzes from the Ravens, when every reader of SDB knows they gonna come in bunches?
    -how can we are so incapable of running the ball on a consistent basis?
    – why DK gets a first target 28th minutes into the game?
    – are we still a finesse team, which losses line of scrimmage against good teams on both sides of the ball?
    – is there any reason to keep any of Diggs/Adams for next season? They are both a liability. A very expensive one.
    – why Carroll isn’t giving at least a quarter of garbage time to Lock?

    • geoff u

      JSN is our leading receiver today so he’s getting open, other than that great points.

    • Red

      All great points Rokas. I think the one I want to harp on the most is Waldron’s inability to adapt, though this has been a Pete thing for a long time.
      They did absolutely nothing throughout the game to adjust to the Ravens defense. Its really frustrating. Waldron seems to be too interested in being call a genius than coming up with an offensive game plan that actually works.
      Defense got thrashed in the second half, but those guys have to be absolutely gassed. They played pretty dang well in the first half, offense couldnt buy them a minute to have a glass of water on the sidelines.
      I am not sure where this team is headed, there is too much talent for the offense to be this bad. I dont really think the move to Lock is the way to go, but I am not looking forward to watching Geno the rest of the season.

  205. BrandoK

    I wonder what excuses Pete will make after this game while still sticking with Geno

  206. AlaskaHawk

    I just came by to hand out the crying towels.

    Not sure how much analysis is needed for this stinker!

  207. Romeo A57

    At least the Seahawks didn’t get shut out today.

  208. BrandoK

    Does the Geno bandwagon still exist after this game?

    • Mick

      Count Pete in. I can’t understand why you don’t let Lock throw in this last quarter.

      • AlaskaHawk

        That’s a pretty good indicator that Pete doesn’t consider either backup as worth a try.

        As far as the Geno bandwagon, I don’t think it will truly fall apart until the Seahawks have a losing record.

      • Tony

        Because the worst thing that can happen is lock does better and then pete will look bad when he strolls out geno next week to another dud.

  209. Tony

    A Pickett led steeler team beat ravens last week.

    • Henry Taylor

      We’ve been shit, but I don’t think we need to pretend this Ravens team isn’t really good.

      • Tony

        Ravens are top 3 in nfl. I’m just saying a Pickett led steelers team actually stuck with them last week. But this is like watching a high school team play a junior high team.

      • AlaskaHawk

        Or at least that they look good against the Seahawks. The defense looked like a throwback to last year with all those long runs that the RAvens made.

      • CL

        Yeah, this game has 100% shown how bad we are AND how good the ravens are. They might indeed be what everyone thought the 49ers would be just some weeks ago

    • Troy


  210. MattG

    Once upon a Sunday dreary, while I chewed gum weak and weary,
    Over many a quaint and banal offensive play of yore;
    Deep down the field staring, peering, long stood my QB wondering, fearing;
    Might a miracle occur once more?
    Again obscure the weakness at the core, and close the score?
    Quoth the Ravens “Nevermore.”

    • cha

      👏 👏👏

    • geoff u


    • Big Mike

      Well done

  211. Mick

    At least the Rams lost too, we still have a shot at finishing second, not that it brings much. Another year of hiding behind making it to the playoffs with no chance of actually beating someone there.

  212. Ashish

    So furious with seahawks offensive game plan. Why in world they keep throwing in first half. They never did when russ was good. I can fire whoever has say in game plan. Just absurd.

  213. RMK-LouCityHawk

    I’m in no hurry to read or listen to retrospectives on this game.

    This was Tampa 2022 all over again, this time it was the offense that clearly is just not good enough.

    I thought L/W played well, but I’d like the 2nd round pick back now pls.

    This looked like 2013 Geno. Not anywhere close to good enough.

    A lot of people will point to this game as a defensive failure, but they really would be missing the lede.

    • Big Mike

      I was thinking Rams beating us 42-7 was comparable

  214. geoff u

    Washington Commanders really should’ve hired a graphic designer to come up with a proper logo

  215. neil

    Well get used to it. This is what we will have to look at the rest of this ear and next. They gave away their 2nd and 5th draft picks for Williams so they have no draft capitol to move up in next years draft so getting a good QB is buy the boards until 2025.

  216. Dave

    I love it. Just what the fan base needed. We (SDB) knew what this team was, and today it showed. Absolutely love it.

    • cha

      I’d rather the Seahawks win and be proven wrong. So I don’t love it.

      But I get what you’re saying.

  217. geoff u

    CJ fucking Stroud man, what an absolute baller

    • Dave

      Dude is a ballplayer. Total badass.

    • Rob Staton


      Who knew?

  218. Romeo A57

    470 Yards 5TDs for CJ Stroud today along with an incredible last second comeback.

    I sure wish the Seahawks had a chance to draft him.

  219. Jo

    Looks like my thoughts about this team being 8-9/9-8 are right on schedule. At least it should be clear change is needed from the top down ie. change in ownership and please Pete just retire before you force a very ungrateful firing. I just don’t understand why Pete thinks Geno can carry team he’s a total JAG. Why isn’t he doing what he is? Run first.

  220. Jo

    You need to be ready for 2-3 years of really bad to get a CJ Stroud. This isn’t something the Seahawks have EVER been willing to do because in the PNW overall it’s acceptable to win 54% every year.

  221. Jo

    Just understand where I live Chiefs Kindom they got humilateby Baltimore and immediately traded for Alex Smith and the year after traded up for Patrick Mahomes. We are facing something very similar currently.

  222. Jo

    That’s what a bridge quarterback is. Alex Smith was far better then Geno Smith no question.

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