This is a guest article by Curtis Allen…
It is midnight in Seattle.
The Seahawks are 1-3 in their last 4 games, tumbling from a solid place in the NFC playoff race to now being reduced to scoreboard-watching opponent games to see where they stand.
What’s more, those three losses have been incredibly demoralizing. Two of them are heavy defeats by better teams (Baltimore and San Francisco) and a third where they frittered away a lead with poor effort and worse game planning.
Now here comes leg two of the four leg gauntlet, the Dallas Cowboys, one of the top teams in the NFL.
They are the #1 scoring offense, the #4 passing offense, the #4 scoring defense and #2 passing defense, along with being #5 in turnover ratio with +7.
Their weakness (if you want to call it that) is that they are ‘only’ 13th in both rushing offense and rushing defense. For what it’s worth, they are tied for the second-most penalized team in the NFL and even then, it is Seattle they are tied with, so no comfort there.
Even within the grainy details, there is little statistical data that gives us a real weakness the Seahawks can exploit to gain an advantage in this game.
However, Dallas has kept a decade-long trend going: They absolutely thrash poor teams and struggle with playoff-quality teams. It is just that the gap this year looks a lot wider.
The truth is, they have been the beneficiary of several opposition misfortunes this year. It is actually impressive when you look at it in a big-picture context:
— Week 2 they faced Zach Wilson instead of Aaron Rogers (38 QB Rating + 3 interceptions)
— Week 4 they faced the Mac Jones/Bailey Zappe duo (39 QB Rating + 2 interceptions)
— Week 8 Aaron Donald had his lowest snap count of the year and Matt Stafford was fighting to stay on the field while hurt and ultimately yielded to Brett Rypien
— Week 10 they were treated to the second start of Tommy DeVito’s NFL career in front of the NFL’s worst offensive line (52% completion rate and an interception)
— Week 11 saw them taking on Carolina in the midst of the ‘wheels are falling off and Frank Reich is holding onto his job for dear life’ phase of their season
— Last week they were leading Washington 20-10 at the end of the third quarter and the Commanders twice tried questionable fourth down go-for-it plays and failed. Plus, Sam Howell threw a pick-six just trying to keep the game respectable and Dallas sailed to a 45-10 win
The only good quarterbacks the Cowboys have beaten are Justin Herbert and Sam Howell.
Meanwhile, they have lost to good quarterbacks such as Brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts. Josh Dobbs also had a career-best performance against them in a win, with a brilliantly schemed game plan to have him split reps between throwing (21x for an 81% comp rate) and running (6 runs for 55 yards, including a 44-yarder).
No, I am not saying that Geno Smith falls into the ‘good’ category. Nor am I trying to convince you all you have to do is match them up with a quarterback with a heartbeat and they will lose. I am just attempting to provide a little context to the Cowboys’ season thus far.
It does highlight however, the critical nature of the quarterback position. If the Seahawks are to have a puncher’s chance in this game, Geno Smith must drastically improve his play. He has been talking about being accountable and how he needs to improve for weeks now. This game – in front of a national audience and coming off two demoralizing losses – might be their best and only chance to ‘save’ this team’s season if they really do intend to make any kind of move in the playoffs.
In the absence of some clearly defined points to watch, I am going to revert to a past format and just discuss some things the Seahawks need to do on both offense and defense to have some success in this game.
Over and above any of these points, the Seahawks have to just play well. They must have a game plan and play with an intensity and attention to detail that they have only shown briefly this season. Stupid penalties have to disappear and fumbles and poor throws cannot occur in this game.
That is the biggest point right there. It does not matter if an opponent has a weakness covering tight ends or if their offense prefers the short pass to deeper throws. The Seahawks are at a point where they simply have lost motivation, their play calling and game planning on both sides of the ball is atrocious and they are playing sloppy, undisciplined, unsound football.
Get that right and they have a shot. Or they can at least hold their heads up at the end of the game.
When the Seahawks Have the Ball
In five of Seattle’s six wins, they have rushed for 100 or more yards. The sixth was against Detroit where they had 82 yards but Geno Smith had his best game of the year from a passing standpoint. Even then, a healthier run game would have helped the defense and perhaps would have prevented the game from going to overtime.
Meanwhile, in Dallas’ three losses? All those teams rushed for 100 or more yards.
Again, the Cowboys feature the top-scoring offense and the second-best pass defense in the NFL. There is simply no reason for the Seahawks to intentionally put their head in the lion’s mouth by coming out with their year-to-date mix of 39/61 run/pass.
What is more, Geno Smith is attempting 20+ yard passes at the fifth-highest rate in the NFL so far this season.
It. Has. Not. Been. Working.
Thursday would be a perfect time to feature Zach Charbonnet in a tough, gritty, move-the-pile feature role. Then complement him with Kenny McIntosh and perhaps Ken Walker if he is healthy (he’s listed as doubtful). Find ways to get the tight ends involved in short, effective passes.
Grind this game to a slow pace. Keep Micah Parsons from completely wrecking the offensive line and DaRon Bland from having another pick-six. Control the clock, muscle this defense into relaxing and opening up some carefully selected deep shots and let Geno Smith actually mean it when he does play-action.
At this point in the season, this is not just a good strategy to employ. It is a way to keep your quarterback upright, that ferocious offense off the field and actually use the assets at your disposal to make this offense work.
A second key is that Geno Smith has to stop his indecision, trust his targets to be where they are supposed to be and make decisions quicker.
Have a look at this play from last Thursday that Brian Baldinger neatly outlined on Twitter:
@BaldyNFL I don't disagree on the SF D, but I feel this is a perfect representation of the #seahawks offensive problems this year. Geno Smith refusing to throw with anticipation/throw guys open. He spoke about this yesterday. Happened last year, not happening this year. https://t.co/FtHbECbO2M
— Curtis Allen (@curtis93969) November 28, 2023
He is not wrong. The Niners have extremely tight coverage on the receivers but he perfectly pauses the play when Geno should be winding up his throw to either Noah Fant on the crosser or Jaxon Smith-Njigba running an out route. Geno does that and makes a throw we have seen him make dozens of times and the Seahawks have a touchdown or are a plunge away from a touchdown.
Instead, he hesitates, drops his head and is sacked to kill the drive.
Wait until your receivers are wide open to throw the ball against one of the best defenses in the NFL and yeah, you are going to get sacked multiple times.
Pete Carroll said this week that Geno must get the ball out quicker and Geno agreed the next day when asked about that. The offense badly needs a return to last season’s Geno that stood tall in the pocket, kept his eyes up and made very accurate throws with anticipation when they needed them most.
A simple suggestion: It is not against the rules in the NFL to have your quarterback roll out on designed plays. If Parsons is on Geno’s left at the left hash, roll him out to the right and get those two-option crosser passes going. Why always stand right in the pocket?
There is one more thing I noticed when scouting this Cowboys defense that the Seahawks need to take advantage of: They have to throw something at them that they do not anticipate. Shake up the status quo a little and get them thinking before they react that can give you that half-second later in the game that might be crucial.
Josh Dobbs executed this brilliantly with a mix of RPO and quick throws the Cowboys were not ready for.
The Niners also executed this more than once in their 42-10 whipping of the Cowboys. They called plays that took advantage of Dallas’ aggression by having jet sweeps or clever little screen passes where the entire defensive line was caught up field while the receiver was clear with an escort of blockers.
They also pulled a little trickery early in the game that left George Kittle wide open for a touchdown:
PURDY TO KITTLE AGAIN ON THE TRICKERY 💯
📺: #DALvsSF on NBC
📱: Stream on #NFLPlus https://t.co/gzzkvIRUdj pic.twitter.com/U8WTkL64Ly— NFL (@NFL) October 9, 2023
Watch the entire left side of the Cowboy defense pursue the edge, only to stop and “huh?” when they realized the runner does not have the ball.
Must it be some elaborate play that we know the Seahawks will likely have trouble executing well? No. Have a look at what the Eagles did at the goal-line in their win against Dallas:
Touchdown AJ Brown
Hurts finds AJB in man-coverage, and he gets himself into the end zone.
Cowboys 17-28 Eagles #NFL #Hurts #AJBrown #FlyEaglesFly pic.twitter.com/pyQdbIrBjW
— SmashMouthin' Football 💥👅 🏈 (@SMingFootball) November 5, 2023
That is All-World receiver A.J. Brown lining up at a halfback spot and getting isolated in space where he has a clean uncontested catch, two yards of room to gather up a head of steam and two defensive backs who are both smaller and slower trying to stop him. Touchdown.
The Seahawks have been guilty of not helping their quarterback by showing looks that defenses know and read easily. They do not have to reinvent their offense, or show these new looks on every series. But just pick two or three well-executed plays that blunt the defense’s ferocity just a little bit and execute them well.
When the Cowboys Have the Ball
In two of the three Cowboys losses, they have failed to rush for 100 yards. The third, they ran for 185 yards but Dak Prescott did not have a good day passing and every time they got a head of steam on drives, it got derailed by a penalty.
Let’s be right, Dak Prescott is having one of his best years but he still needs a solid running game to support him and the Cowboys are getting just enough out of their backs to keep the offense balanced. If the Seahawks can limit their ability to get yards on the ground and make them one-dimensional, Prescott can revert to his old self at times under pressure and make poor throws.
They are also very effective at ‘running the ball’ by throwing a pass to a running back behind the line of scrimmage and letting him exploit the open space on the field. Tony Pollard is a hugely reliable weapon to keep the Dallas offense on track. They are calling his number regularly and he has delivered: Pollard leads the NFL in broken tackles on pass plays, with a whopping 13 in only 39 catches. That is a broken tackle every three catches.
We have seen the Seahawks’ high-priced safeties and their highly-rated cornerbacks being soft on tackles in recent weeks. That has to stop Thursday if this defense is to contain this high-powered Cowboy offense.
Why? There are times that Prescott is making throws you just cannot defend. Watch him fit a ball in from his own end zone to a tight end with three defenders converging on him:
This throw from @dak was right on target 🎯
📺: #WASvsDAL on CBS
📱: Stream on #NFLPlus https://t.co/N5H8Nc0xKc pic.twitter.com/Ua6zYjmmdL— NFL (@NFL) November 23, 2023
Old friend Cody Barton actually has pretty good coverage on Jake Ferguson to be fair but Dak just beats him. From the end zone, all Dak can see is his white #57 jersey. Yet he puts the ball in the only place he can for his target to get at it, with enough velocity to get there before the deep safeties converge.
If the Cowboys are smart, Ferguson is going to be as big a part of their game plan as CeeDee Lamb is. Who is going to cover him? Bobby Wagner? Jamal Adams? Jordyn Brooks? Julian Love? The Cowboys are going to get favorable looks to their tight ends most of this game.
As good as Michael Gallup and CeeDee Lamb are for this offense, the Seahawks simply must trust their corners to cover them and win those battles more than they lose. Because if the Cowboys are able to run the ball, swing pass all day to the backs and have tight ends in the seam regularly, those wide receivers are going to run free and wild on this defense.
Lastly, I will bring up a similar point for the defense as I did for the offense: You have to come up with something to give Dak Prescott a different look. Some kind of occasional blitz package or an odd alignment to keep him off balance.
It is no coincidence that Prescott is having a career-best year so far, all the while facing a career-low pressure in the pocket. He is only facing 16% pressure on average so far this year. To put that into perspective, that means he has 3-4 more stress-free throws per game than he typically has.
Bring Devon Witherspoon. Bring Bobby Wagner 8-10 times in this game (he is vastly better going forward than going side to side or backwards). Bring Jamal Adams and Jordyn Brooks. Make Dak have to keep his head on a swivel and think.
This is a go-for-broke type strategy, I realize. Yet if the Seahawks can accomplish a couple of the above points and then pick their spots to send rushers, they can disrupt the #1 offense in the NFL in a way that is within their grasp.
Excellent as always cha.
This may be the biggest achilles heel for the Seattle defense. No wait, maybe it’s poor tackling? Sporadic pass rush?
Now that Geno has been told to get the ball out quicker, does that mean more interception worthy passes? I frankly have little faith that he’ll turn it around because this is who he’s been since the Tampa game last season.
Cowpukes by 13 going away……..
I already hate Thursday games. Week nights is time for me to draft bids, other boring crap for work/farm. Plus be a normal human and hang out with the missus.
I already suffered the most comical side eye on Thanksgiving sneaking around to listen to Wyman tell me a tale.
It’s taken longer than I thought this season but I might miss this whole game.
I realized that my wife is going to a work function late this afternoon so I would be able to watch the game and not miss spending that time with her. Then I found myself wondering why I should even bother. This game just feels like one where Seattle is going to get crushed. I hope I am wrong but they just look so lifeless lately. I am done with Pete although I don’t think anything will be done by management. It’s just hard to get excited about this team anymore with him at the helm.
It’s my Wife’s birthday and usually I would have still found a way to watch the game and make it up to her on the weekend or something bigger. This year however, I’m going to miss the game and go out to dinner tonight at a place of my Wife’s choosing. The Seahawks are doing everything they can to make me a better husband this year.
Thanks Big Mike
I don’t know how you do it Curtis, but these weekly game previews are gold and must-read posts. Thank you so much, your work is admired and appreciated.
Agreed. Considering where the team seems to be at this was a great read.
Thanks for the kind words Gary!
Quote from Carroll:
Um Pete, earlier this week it sure sounded like you were laying the blame for the struggles by the offense on Waldron’s doorstep. Have you taken “full account” over the last 5+ seasons of mediocrity or have you just terminated coordinators implying at least that they are to blame? A lot of us see the answer to that question. You Pete, are the constant in this.
It’s one of the hardest things in sports. To put every piece together in the right order. I do and always will, I think, have tons of respect for Pete for doing it once before.
But if this goes the way it seems like it will it’s shifted from groan worthy Pete being pete….to a guy a don’t want to hear a single word from about anything.
Thank you cha, great work as always.
At the risk of being unfair, I’ll put this game on Geno. It’s his last chance of proving he deserves to be the starter in Seattle. Give us yet another terrible performance and you’re gone. I’m tired of excuses, Oline, Walker, Shane and Pete. Make the right decisions or let the place for someone else who can.
Glad you enjoyed it Mick
Thanks, Curtis. I’m convinced you put more time into these gameplans than the coaching staff does.
I don’t. But I appreciate the kudos ShowMeYourHawk
I feel like you spend more time on these than the team does on their gameplans.
Thanks geoff u.
My pieces are usually ‘here’s what they need to do.’ Figuring out exactly how to do it is above my paygrade.
But it is concerning when they can’t run the ball, the QB can’t throw on time and the defenders can’t tackle.
Even worse when we average 9 ypc but only run the ball 13 times, while passing for 37 (Clevelend game)
Not trying to sideline the thread but I have an honest question as this season gets weird.
As we try to figure out what moves are needed to catch the serious contenders and/or return to a form that is basically 10 years gone now I’d like to know as it feels like we are heading into blow everything up potentially territory….
For those of you that dislike the coach ( me, btw) contract length aside, meaning I already understand why Jody Allen is not doing this, what exactly has John done in his tenure to show anyone that he “deserves,” to continue being the GM any more than Pete does the HC?
The case for John seems to come down to this idea that the last two drafts were good and they were his drafts. I hear often “I’d like to see what he could do.” But no one ever says why that’s the case.
The counter to that to me is the drafts were good as they were because the overall talent has been poor. Including free agency and including contract structuring.
Lost in the shuffle of what seems to be bad “pete,” decisions is:
Why a player like Dremont Jones over Hargrave?
Why the player returns in the Russ trade for guys who aren’t worth anything to this team? Why not more picks?
Why moves for guys like Gabe Jackson, a ton of money for Dissly for no reason?
I don’t know. I’m pretty over Pete. But I feel the strongest case anyone can make for John is that he chose to stay at a franchise where his powers were thwarted, willingly, and that he’s here so why not?
Most likely I’m being cynical here….I love Witherspoon and really like Mafe. Not going to pass judgement on last year’s picks yet I just don’t see such a massive influx, via John’s acumen, of talent that leads me to believe we are any closer to fighting at the top than we were 3, 4, 5 years ago.
I’m with you Peter. This is the first time in a while that I’m not excited for a Seahawks game. I’m done with Pete as the HC. I think getting a brand new coaching staff and drafting a rookie QB would get us ALL invested into Seahawks football again. I’m willing to be the worst team in the NFL by doing that too, at least you’d be able to figure out the mistakes in the team easily. I just want something different
If Pete retires and John gets a brand new coach….so no promotions of current coordinators upward and a new QB I’d be pretty stoked to see it.
@Peter
I agree about JS.
Ultimately, to be elite, you need elite, blue-chip players.
We can excuse and explain all we want, but JS has failed to build a team with enough elite talent.
Right now, the best we can say is that Witherspoon appears to be capable of reaching that level.
Otherwise, it’s been a decade of mediocre players with a handful of “pretty good” ones thrown in.
I just wonder about a guy who laments Josh Allen and laments not getting to pick a head coach where there’s been openings for a GM and John’s on paper got a solid resume.
Why stay? Obviously hindsight being 20/20 but before Tepper went weird why not go to Carolina or other and do it your way?
My guess is loyalty, respect for Paul/Jody…promise of more authority (or actual grant of more authority)..
Established staff, established in the community, young fan base, adoring media….
Maybe. I swing a hammer for a living. Before that I spent two decades in the restaurant world. I have mad respect for most of my mentors in both careers. But at some point in both I either went to a better kitchen for bigger stakes or….struck out on my own as a contractor.
I still respect my last employer so much that when I find kids with half a brain in a job skills program I’m part of I send them his way to turn them into something great.
You can have all the respect in the world for your mentor, Pete hired him after all. Sometimes you need to shake up your life if you want to be the thing you believe you are.
Also….Vulcan, et al. They can write anything down and seal it in a box under Lumen field. The next owner could well be a Tepper, Davis and axe John and his future hire mid season.
Jones over Hargrave……possible he wasn’t interested in Seattle. Also possible SF offered more money. Nwosu was a good signing. Other FA signings……..?
Contracts…..If he’s responsible for some of these, he must be shown the door as well. Adams, Diggs, Dissly et. al. are criminal use of the salary cap. Unfortunately, I don’t know that there’s been much said publicly about contracts so we don’t really know who has lead the charge on this foolhardy waste of resources.
Trades…..rumor I read here was that the Williams trade was one John wanted. Was the Adams trade his? How about Sheldon Richardson?
Draft……I’m guessing he’s been given more control over the draft the last 2 years as has been rumored. Generally where there’s smoke there’s fire. What about some of the other poorer drafts though. Can’t be all Pete, which leads me to the conclusion that……
A full house cleaning is necessary. Carroll and Schneider are a team though Carroll has final say. Certainly though, logic tells me that at least some of the poor moves are on John. The franchise has gone utterly stale and mediocre at best. Getting drilled by the Ravens and Rams and maybe more importantly becoming 2 or 3 steps behind the 49ers in your own division means it’s time to move on completely and start over imo.
He’s done some good stuff. He’s done some great stuff.
There’s just a trail of misses as well. I’ll give him a pass on JA. That has pete all over it. But why the restructuring to keep him here forever?
Or a low key one. Maybe Reed really did want too much money. Letting him walk angrily pushed us unto a series of increasingly dumb moves that cost way more in draft stock and actual cash. Oh and less results.
I don’t know. We’re a team with no real plan at the moment. There’s nothing besides pinter that we are great at. And looking towards the future as the cash, picks diagram looks today I don’t see how we make big strides best year.
The beginning of the season folks said this us 2012. I pushed back and said more like 2011. As it is now I’m not sure it’s comparable to either of those years.
I think overall the Seahawks amateur scouting and drafting has been good during the JS/PC era. That’s even with some lost years where they chased need over BPA.
Where they have been absolutely putrid is with veteran contracts (both re-signing guys and free agency).
I’ve tended to blame Pete for this more over the years than John. But at this point its impossible to continue to give JS the benefit of the doubt. If it’s really Pete pulling these moves and overriding JS, then JS has had multiple opportunities to jump ship and actually run his own team.
There is no cohesive plan or identity and there hasn’t been for many years with this team.
Dremont has obviously been a huge disappointment all around and some of that is on him. But are they using him properly? I’ve talked to friends that are Broncos fans and they all thought he was great. I’ve seen plenty of clips of him wrecking shit and blowing up plays while with the Broncos. So either he completely lost a step from last year to this year, or at least part of the problem is not using him effectively.
I am not sure why, but I trust John. I would say these last two draft classes (where we are pretty sure he was in charge of), as well as the earlier ones (where I feel that Pete let him get some guys, John was the one banging for Russ, and him heading the best scouting ever) are enough for me. And I want to see HIM running things. I also feel that moves like DIggs and Coleman were more John, while Adams, LW, and the line churning were Pete. The higher the risk or the cheaper the move, the more clearly Pete’s fingerprints are on it.
I don’t know if it is a comfort, good working relationships, how close the team is compared to the wheels falling off, or what for his loyalty.
I want to see him find another quarterback. Problem is, what involvement will Pete and his coaches have? You know that it is going to be a hinderance.
I trust John to acquire talent. I think he got cute and got burned in a couple of drafts (Collier draft being lesson learned) and has decided to not risk losing guys he’s got conviction on – which has been a success.
I don’t fully trust him with the trades, the cap & extensions.
For every good 5th rounder for a Diggs, there has been a 1,1,3 + extension for an Adams. For every claiming DJ Reed off of waivers there is a trade for an aging Gabe Davis that would have been cut, ends up forcing our promising rookie out of position and leads to dead cap.
I’ve been griping about our cap management for years and pointed out yesterday that we’ve not have a comp pick since Earl Thomas left.
I can virtually guarantee that next year, we’ll have a bunch of dead cap, need to extend Leonard Williams, (but backload it because we’re cap poor), have more holes that money, no comp picks and be no closer to being a contender than as we sit here today.
There is a lot of young talent on the team, but somehow it isn’t a cheap and the cap will still be a mess while all of these guys are on their rookie deals. I think most (not all) of that is John and his team.
I wonder if the cap is also a “Pete” problem: we traded for Adams with no contract, what I say goes, we have to keep him. Until his legs fall off.
There is just so much that we don’t know because there is a very unique structure to our front office. They say that they are all on the same page, but Pete runs it.
I think the Collier draft was huge for John: missed out on Sweat and had to settle. Missed out on Abrams and had to settle. It’s maybe the worst overplanning that the team has done and it showed when they announced the picks. I bet it BURNED John that year.
IDK, for some reason I am perfectly fine giving him another run with him in charge of it all.
Fair points. Entirely possible that some of these moves are not ones he’d make without Pete’s directive.
I think with most things John goes shopping around at Pete’s behest or to present to Pete for approval.
Rumor was that John (apart from the Allen, Mahomes stuff) had a RW deal lined up with the Browns that Pete eventually said no to. And another deal with Philly for Hurts and picks that RW vetoed. That’s 2 major trades that John (allegedly) worked out the details on and were ready to go that he couldn’t move on.
On the flip side, the rumor is that Pete made him wait until the 3rd to get RW and that got us Bobby. The best draft ever might have gone very differently without landing our future HOF MLB.
I’m with you in that I lean toward keeping John, despite not knowing exactly how many of these decisions were made.
Pete said in a press conference LW was John’s guy.
I’ll give anyone the last two drafts.
I’m not willing to budget much on the good drafts early on were John and Scott then Pete stepped in then back to John.
John wanted and got Wilson. Someone traded for Whitehurst. Someone famously wanted Dalton. And Pete as documented had them wait on Wilson.
Additionally Pete knew Sherman. Always loved Marshawn. A bold trade by John. Knew Wagner and Earl.
Schneider’s contract runs through 2027, and there is a rumor he got greater control in his last renegotiation.
Other than that, Schneider has show an impressive ability to scout, develop scouts, and seems to be well thought of around the league.
We have a very incomplete data set, as we don’t know which picks, signings, and contracts were Carroll calls versus Schneider choices. Without that info we cannot really judge where he was on something like the Collier pick, or the Adams trade, or the Prez contract….general cap management (which may very well be intentional at the moment)
There are worse things than a well respected GM, who has shown an ability to scout, develop scouts, and has an eye for talent.
There is also the matter of a short leash with a new coach, that if the problems were Schneider’s, that will become apparent quickly with the arrival of a new HC, and then Schneider can be transitioned out in favor of a new GM.
Agree on having incomplete to no information on who made the decisions. There is a difference between wanting someone and actually approving a draft pick or free agent contract. Based on that – I believe Pete calls the shots and has approval authority . Why?
1. Pete is the one pacing around in the draft room with his subordinates.
2. Pete would have thrown JS under the bus for these lame contracts. I know you all think he’s a nice guy, but he has thrown head coaches under the bus and fired them. He would do the same to JS for the Adam’s trade and the latest Williams trade – except he was the person who approved the trade.
3. If he did blame JS for his own decisions then JS would at some point speak up to protect his reputation.
4. As to why JS and PC are still there , the only reason people stay on at crappy jobs is a boatload of money.
So I think JS role is to negotiate contracts and draw them up. But PC is the one that signs off on EVERYTHING.
Cha wrote,
Well, I guess we could put DK Metcalf in the “I” formation with two tight ends.
Thanks Cha, as always a well thought out write up.
Thank you for reading bv eburg
The Cowboys are good, but their numbers on offense and defense are massively inflated by playing against Sam Howard, Bryce Young, and Tommy DeVito. Their offense has been given short fields, and the defense has scored multiple times. Call me unreasonably pessimistic, but I think the Seahawks will win this game, and everyone will go back to thinking all is well with this team 🙁
On the other hand we got to 6 wins against the red rifle, Daniel Jones, Howell, and the pass-tranaut.
I mean we had an ‘elite’ run defense until we played running teams and a top five offense at week three.
On that logic, do people discount wins v us because its Geno?
Not sure.
I think a,lot of the league doesn’t really respect this team one way or the other. Or rates very many of our players. As it is.
Why? We’re the best very slightly above average team in the league right now.
They had me going!! Thanks.
I watch Corbin Smith talk to reporters from the teams we are facing every week and it’s a lot of “the seahawks…they sure are a team.”
*that*
Of all the teams in the NFL this is definitely one of them, can’t argue that
It’s Sam Howell, but has he really earned enough respect to have his name spelled right?
On my way to Jerry’s spaceship now, will be sitting with some customers who are Boys fans.
They are actually worried about the game tonight. Talking to them over breakfast they ran down exactly their concerns
they may as well have been reading CHA’s article to me. I didn’t bother to correct them that Seattle is no longer a pound the rock team, and that Geno turns into a turtle at the first sign of pressure. Or that our defense has been suspect ever since Chenna went down.
Here’s hoping they are right.
Fun factoid, I went with these guys in 2015 and 2017, but was unable to stay for the game in 2019…Hoping to keep the trend alive.
Dallas and their fans have as complicated a relationship as there is in the NFL.
Always loaded with talent, but always a bridesmaid never a bride.
And God do I love that fact.
The Cowboys are stuck in the same QB purgatory that the Seahawks are but in a potentially worse situation because they don’t know for sure that Dak is not the one (he’s not). Seahawks fans KNOW that Geno is not the one.
I’d rather have the Dallas version of purgatory QB please.
Cowboys have had so many years where they didn’t even make the playoffs. It’s no wonder their fans are worried.
The 49ers put out the blueprint to stop Seattle’s offense. Ward followed DK man to man. Dallas will let Bland follow DK. Seattle will expect DK to win the matchup or draw PI’s. Seattle doesn’t do bunch formations or rub routes to get DK the ball in space.
NFL just flexed Eagles @ Seahawks Week 15 from Sunday day game to MNF
https://x.com/Seahawks/status/1730316081368121690?s=20
https://www.threads.net/@corbinsmithnfl/post/C0SGoJNxL1G/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Unbelievably (and unfortunately?), the league has flexed the Eagles vs Seahawks into MNF. Another primetime disaster? Yippee.
Broncos v. Lions
Bills v. Cowboys….easy choice for viewership
Titans v. Texans
All three could be more compelling.
Ugh
Maybe a silver lining if as expected our team suffers another ugly beatdown on national TV it’ll spur her to move on from Carroll
I know, I’m living on Fantasy Island 🏝
Same thoughts my friend. What exactly happens ‘if’ Seattle gets worked in this stretch. Two score plus kind of games.
The thing I see is how do you hope for a strong run to end it? If Seattle really goes on a five game slide what stops it? Do players tune out? We have a big roster of free agents. Do they start making business decisions?
I know 6-8 they aren’t out of it but losses can become a mindset. Same as winning.
VERY well said
I’m conflicted. I was going to miss that game due to my daughter’s volleyball tournament. Now I don’t have a conflict and will have to watch it. I was kind of happy that I wasn’t going to be able to watch. This is what Seahawks football has become.
😂
Not to root for a an injury but Hynes to the IR and Lucas activated yay!
Excited to see if Lucas can really go. Also glad to see Bradford getting that spot and stop this ridiculous shuffling.
Yeah me too. I’d rather just take some rookie lumps with Bradford because I believe he has more talent and a higher ceiling plus continuity is very important in line play.
I feel like watching tonight is like watching the nightly news. I know I should so I can stay informed but I’m going to feel gradually worse as the program goes on and wonder at the end of it why I watched in the first place. I really expect an embarrassing loss again tonight. Thanks as always for the write up Cha, I feel like you can copy and paste this article for the 2 games after.
Can I ask, what is the obsession with what the players wear before a game?
Every week Seahawks social media is obsessed with endless posts about what they’re wearing.
I was amazed during the game when a ‘fashion show’ segment popped up on the big screen, asking the fans to cheer for who they thought was the best dressed.
Am I just turning into an old man at 39, or does anyone else NGAF about this?
It’s football FFS! Make a freakin tackle! Run the ball!
Speculating an attempt to broaden the NFLs interest to female fanbase. The Taylor Swift thing has been a pretty big swing and I think they’ve been experimenting with ways to increase its reach in that demo.
Get that cash. When that next album is about how kelce broke her heart and young women start burning KC jerseys for tik tok views that’ll be the end of that.
As hot as she is, and she is indeed hot, I would be rather hesitant to be her boyfriend cuz you know, subject of a song in eternity. Yikes.
Remember when Derek Jeter was dating Mariah Carey, and they let her go pee in the clubhouse? Something I was always wondering about when you bring a woman with a five-octave operatic range to climax, does it shatter all the windows?
Anything to distract from the product on the field.
It’s so stupid. How deep the coverage has gotten into the players and every aspect of their lives, including their fashion, is ridiculous. It actually makes me question whether I like a player sometimes then remember that their fashion/car/music preferences/political views are irrelevant. I just want to watch football.
Same. Though what else do they have to promote?
Team on a two game slide vs. Team with a 13 game winning streak at home…
Can’t hardly promote the prime time magic…
#1 offense vs. #20 something defense….
Best punter in the league….
Being sharp dressed men is basically it.
C’mon Rob, “every girl’s crazy ’bout a Sharp Dressed Man”.
Seriously, Alan just called and said “you suck”.
OK really seriously, I’m with you man, I don’t give shit one about what they wear.
It’s every bloody 10 minutes before a game
They literally just tweeted this again now! https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1730379427702276522
Is that the “when your team’s about to get blown out and humiliated on national TV again” sweater?
Just wanted you all to know that a dude in a 49ers jacket gave me a dirty look at McDonald’s today. I was puzzled at first, but then I realized I was wearing my Top Gun hat and Seahawks Draft Blog T-shirt.
He must really hate that movie.
He was probably jealous
I am working in Honolulu this week and am not going to be able to watch this game tonight. I was so looking forward to seeing Dak put up 30 points and The Dallas Defense outscore the Seahwks Offense.
Let’s see the Seahawks prove me wrong!
Feels like the “I’m working in Honolulu this week,” part is extraneous….😀
Absolutely, It was 30 degrees and I was scaping ice off the car before I left Portland 🙂
Lots of rain here though.
In the 50’s here in Pensacola, thunderstorms are on the way.
If this game goes completely sideways I have No Hard Feelings stopped at the part where Jennifer Lawrence goes skinny dipping.
With Walker out again, I’m glad we didn’t waste a 2nd round pick on another running back.
Not that we run the ball anyway.
Okay, so how are Draft Kings/The Refs going to screw people over tonight?
Nice pass rush
Again
Adams just zoomed right past Pollard on that screen play.
I wish these Unis would be the main uniform for seattle
LOL. Cowboys O went thru Seattle’s D like a hot knife thru butter.
Nice hold at the goal line at least.
Over under Dallas 38 points
So anyway, back to fashion, I have to say Seahawk classic uniform is 11/10
Now that is a fashion statement I can get behind
That’ll have Pete all fired up
with Nick Bellore making the the 1st down stop to start it off, yea, Pete is pumped.
They didn’t roll over but sucked it up in the RZ, gotta give them that.
Time to see if Pete and Shane read Cha’s keys to victory. Let’s go Charbs!
Or that!!
If the Seahawks have a chance tonight, charbonnet will have to be the reason.
Parsons is only 24? Good Lord
pretty stale, a minor motion from a very vanilla formation on 1st and 2nd. Are these script plays?
LET’S GO!!!
Wow they really finally scored a TD good catch by DK
yeah, and those are the types of throws the make Geno look very good.
not easy.
He had good hands on that ball. Great throw by Geno.
nice to see him reel it in, pass almost had some anticipation to it. It is amazing DK doesn’t have lot of these… size, speed…. it should happen more often. Force 2 deep safety, let Charb make em pay for that.
Okay I take all my criticism back and ow worship Geno Smith and Metcalf! Hat hat 😁
spoon on the flush
That’s 2 covered sacks already
Seattle still sucks at tackling
Classic underthrow PI
3rd and 16 Seattle special
Got a little time to listen.
Great start!!
That was not a penaly
Well maybe a penaly, but not a penalty
Both?
Ta-riq.
Come on.
Is thos more PI’s then Ints from last year?
This defense is comically bad.
that seemed pretty easy
It’s gonna be that way all night
Offense is going to have to show up for a full game today. Cowboys are putting up at least 30.
looked like Diggs kinda screened Spoon out on that.
He boxed him out like a power forward. The defense has some promise if theyd just bench Diggs
Damn. Maybe I’m the problem
Hope offense did not score their points for game already…
Back to back screen plays why why
yep… throw out the running plays
Start game with two runs
Score on first throw
Now resort back to throwing all the time
Checks out.
Boneheaded move declining that penalty, i’ll take it
Is Mike McCarthy
Carroll looks absolutely knackered
I called that 1st down play along with everybody with a star on their hat.
Geno does throw a pretty spiral
Cross is getting worked by Parsons
Get away from Waldron, Pete.
Geno still stares down his receivers and holds the ball way too long
Delay of game on a FG…
FFS
Of course he missed after. Of course.
This team man.
Stupid penalties and self inflicted BS. A staple of Pete Carroll coached teams.
Myers is terrible
no excuse to get a delay of game in that situation.
just terrible
Well that was pretty Seahawky
Just more undisciplined football
undisciplined, Seahawky – tomato tomaato
And of course Myers follows it up with a miss.
Can we cut Myers already?
Right after we get rid of the person responsible for us being unable to get a bloody field goal sorted on time to avoid a penalty
its infuriating
I’m not pro or con myers.
I am con a 4 year 21 million contract.
Or may be the one who called 3rd and 16 play call on defense the previous series. If we keep firing only Jody may survive.
Broncos had no timeouts and 12 seconds running- got FG unit on the field and nailed it before clock expired…twice….in the same game
Myers is too easily flustered to do anything like that
That sequence crystallizes everything that frustrates me about this coaching.
If there is anything with this team…it’s consistency in being inconsistent. You do not which offense, defense or special teams show up.
Still 0 involvement from TEs so far from this game on offense with 3 solid options. I don’t get the abandonment of using them this year.
The whole Shanahan Mcvay tree without TEs. Curious.
Just me or is Pete visibly more intense?
Had some gesture to Waldron on a play call (the one Geno get grabbed by Parsons), screaming for a timeout on the FG, chirping at line judge on Woolen PI…
He looks absolutely knackered and like he’s in a horrendous mood
Tossed his headphones, yelling at everyone
The simple truth is that this is not a good football team.
The uni’s are #1 in all of sports.
But people don’t want to believe that tho. Always making excuses saying if we things went our way or we just need one more guy
We need around 7 more guys.
Did anyone else’s Amazon broadcast not show the first 2 plays of the cowboys drive?
Woolen having a rough game… again
The PI was rough, but he has had some nice PBUs and his tackling has been much better than it had been lately.
I swear to God, if I woke up at 4 for another total annihilation, it’s gonna be youtube videos the rest of the season.
Watching this defense is like not watching a defense
This defense. My god.
Elite
Sure, why not waste a time out
It is as if Pete is detecting genuine suckitude
Our safeties must lead the league in flying into the backfield, past the ballcarrier.
They play too fast….
I kid you not.
you’d think with our LB playing too slow, it’d even out.
You have to see to believe.. Dallas offense is playing so relaxed and carefree. So much for the defensive genius Pete
For big mike..
“It’s rare when Diggs misses a tackle….”
“Adams had a hand in there first”
Bobby with great coverage out there
Just when you think it’s a good idea to have Wagner covering a WR
Wagner in coverage on a WR. Brilliant.
Wagner is limited not just physically
It looks like Dallas will target Bobby this whole game
LOL. So easy. This team/staff simply doesn’t have it. Blow it up.
I am officially taking my victory lap on not wanting Wagner back
(Starts jogging)
I bet you are jogging faster than Wagner runs!
LOL
Brooks could have been more aggressive about getting his arms up
Not like we have someone to replace him this season, but no way we should extend him for the next one. We were brutal with KJ, should do the same here.
Quinn converts a safety to LB for speed, SEA raids the retirement shelf for same.
Seattle can’t match Dallas in a shoot out at all this game
It’s time to let it go with him. He can’t do half of his responsibilities anymore.
we don’t even give him plays off to rest!
he plays every damn snap!
So stupid.
The slow guy on the field in passing downs is odd
TE sighting!
Lockett is such a cerberal player. He made sure that would be a flag.
Not joking. Lockett probably has 300 hidden yards a season.
it’ like he drew up that PI
The under throw DPI taketh away and giveth back.
Why does Pete keep sticking with Peters on the Oline
So wagz can feel young
he’s rotating in at guard now, i guess. Filling in for Haynes.
Bradford got hurt
And Haynes is inactive injured
Let’s see if we blow 1st and 1
Was doing laundry, How did we get the ball back?
Had to have it.
One unit has to work to stand a chance today.
Is Olu available?
Diggs is so bad
Diggs won’t be tweeting about that hurdle
Remember those people on Twitter blowing smoke up Diggs’ arse?
FFS
Hey. He’s paid top 10 ipso facto he is top ten. 🙃
Does Diggs get leaped at least once a game?
Diggs is worse than Adams, didn’t think that was possible.
I love that the nation got to see that diggs Clark sequence.
This defense can’t stop anything. Same story for the last 3 years. Pathetic
Will Dallas punt today
Saying that Wagner is as good as he’s ever been is comical.
It really is only if you just look at on paper and thats it
He’s leading the team in tackles. That means he is doing well right? /s
Are they really saying Bobby is playing great. What are you watching
It’s just the assumed narrative
Jamal Adams there, shit talking after a seven yard gain on first down
Prez gonna peacock! What an astounding doofus.
💯
Adams strutting after a 7 yard play against him
Looks like Brooks is gonna be out
Probably won’t be enough, but Hawks definitely came w more/better energy tonight.
If I’m any team playing against Seattle, why bother test their corners when you can pick on Bobby and the safeties?
Middle of the field is always wide open with Bobby playing 100% of the snaps plus you can always count on Diggs and Adams to miss a tackle.
If I am any team playing Seattle, I leave the punter at the team hotel.
You all catching this.
Really (not) enjoying Dallas OC going full west coast dink and dunk to control the game.
I want Diggs and Adams gone so bad.
Quandre Diggs has gotta go man. Yikes
Pete looks like he’s on the brink of just saying f this
He doesn’t look remotely like the Carroll we know. He looks hagged, tired and miserable
You can just say old.
Real urgency to win this game- things get bad with the loss
He’s completely frazzled
His team isn’t even good enough for him to pretend/imagine that we are “close”.
He’s out of answers and no amount of optimism can change the path his team is on.
Why accept the hold instead of the sack?
nevermind
Earlier, I thought I lip-read Pete saying, “This crew is the worst.”
He’s not wrong- they’ve been terrible
Waiving off flags, blatant holds missed, poor communication, seems like very inexperienced crew
They should go for it there.
Thanks for messing it up
43 plays to 18.
First half is a new game, same story for this defense. Pass rush is not getting home while they get abused between the numbers in the pass game.
Frank Clark getting too many snaps
Bruce Irvin 2.0
What a surprise an undisciplined team by Pete
Yup too many stupid penalties
That looked like a flop worthy of Dennis Rodman.
Where’s Abe Lucas???
I think they are just doing their weird rotating thing.
…but, yeah… he should be in the game right now.
Lucas still injured?
We are helpless in pass pro
JSN what a play
JSN is playing some good football
Offense has done their part in the first half.
Might not be a TD 50/50 chance
Yes, now that’s a statement. Well done guys.
That’s a touchdown
Or not. Eff the refs
The Amazon broadcast team and this officiating crew combo is such a terrible product – I feel like I’m watching a completely different league of football
I can’t tell if the offense is back or is Dallas Defense just bad maybe somewhere in the middle
Geno is just letting it go tonight…it’s kind of working
stating the obvious of the obvious – – good QB play makes a world of differnece
Welp, they earned that one. That’s a lot of laundry to fight through.
Love the fire from JSN tonight
JSN is a hell of a player, totally nailed first round picks last draft.
Can he play safety?
Wouldn’t be shocked to see us use our first for a safety next draft.
No
Thankfully there aren’t any R1 safeties
Not saying it’s smart but it would be such a Pete thing to do.
Only if Rattler and Ewers are still on the board
let’s go Hawks!! there’s your red zone play….
We should get credit for 3 touchdowns there. Should be 35-20
When did touchdowns become worth two points each?
We saved our entire seasons worth of red zone touchdowns for this quarter
Like I’ve been saying all along, a finely tuned juggernaut
Is this how other teams feel when they’ve got less penalties than us?
Why can’t Waldron attack weak spots on other defenses like this. Games like this drive me crazy, just shows how good they could be but rarely ever put it together….but that defense, yuck.
It’s probably a combination of them trying to overly target one player like DK one game then JSN, and Tyler instead of just playing matchups. Plus just having Geno getting rid of the ball quick whenever he holds the ball too long its gonna be bad.
whatever has happened …Geno looks like a different QB tonight. Not overthinking, getting the ball out.
First half time of possession:
Dallas – 20:19
Hawks – 9:41
This has to flip 180 degrees in the second half. If not, then our gassed D will completely fall apart in the 4th quarter.
Well we do 2nd half adjustments so we’ll I completely expect that to happen.
Well done Geno Smith and team. I would have lost money betting on the score at half time.
Tremendous showing.
Geno looks like a new quarterback tonight. Even in the face of a pretty decent pass rush. It’s just crazy. He had so many touchdowns called back, but he just keeps throwing with accuracy and timing.
But time of possession is still an issue. And they did have some success with the run so lets not completely abandon it.
Opinion: Tony Gonzalez is the worst analyst on TV. He is bad.
He’s no Troy Aikman.
Hard agree – the entire Prime broadcast crew is awful
I can at least tolerate the other 3 but Gonzalez to me has no idea what he is talking about despite being a HOF TE.
Absolutely dreadful
Watching the Prime Stats cast for the first time. I kind of like it.
As bad as everything has been. Man how good has our last two drafts been!! There cannot be very many teams that have had better drafts last 2 years. So many hits, so much potential. If we can get one more good draft, we could really set up a run in the future. Just gotta find a QB lol.
The Cowboys got flagged 7x for 107 yards in the first half.
The Seahawks are executing at times, yes. But Dallas is helping them tremendously.
They badly need a second half where they clamp down on defense and get the RBs and TEs involved.
This is just like the Rams game. A couple of quick 3 and outs with stupid WR screens and false starts and all the momentum is gone if they’re not careful.
100% agreed.
Great drive to get ZC involved.
And more help from the Cowboys with penalties.
I don’t think we can score a TD every time we get the ball, so the D needs to kick up a gear.
Maybe we can? GENO!
Draft media said Abe Lucas couldn’t run block though
man it’s good to have him back
I’m just glad hes playing instead of 40 year old Peters
Waldron unleashed. Shaking off Pete’s chains. Shaking off the haters. 😉
Going run, run in the redzone doesn’t sound like that.
Does this game indicate DK growing up and not throwing tantrums anymore during games?
Luckily we’re playing against a reflection of our D.
This game just baffles me I don’t understand what I’m watching at all. What is this team?
Well, they did put Dk Metcalf in the backfield like Cha mentioned with A.J. Brown.
Disappointing that he missed Dissly, but commendable that he came right back and got the ball out quickly and made good decisions again and again.
i mean – – – what the F is going on?
Everything looks easy. Dallas’ D is not this bad.
But the commit a lot of penalties and these refs are a bunch of divas.
ESPN is saying that the Seahawks are ahead 28 to 20. Is this Fake News?
Well. Time for our defense to let them march right down the field. Book it!
Where’s this offense been my whole life?
And people want us to hire Dan Quinn. Guess no one knows how to exploit a Pete Carroll defense like Pete Carroll.
I’m happy that Geno and DK are clicking but my main takeaway is that the Cowboys are paper tigers, nowhere near as good as their record suggests. Ravens and Niners were just a different tier to us
Charbonnet brings a different dimension to this offense.
He’s logging tough yards against a stout D- and the playcall is sticking with him, but his style running just seems to have a different level of respect for the opposing D
Geno is playing well tonight but I’m seeing a nice complement with the run game finally even if the yards aren’t there
Adams injured again not a surprise at all
What ever happened to Coby Bryant is he injured or just not playing?
It just feels like we are still so many players away on defense… Idk even know what we need, what is even the priority in the draft… So bad.
I’ll take Derick Hall in for Frank Clark for a start.
Zero punts for Dallas. Hurtt’s D is as soft as ever.
Pete’s defense!
How different would our defense be if Woolen still had last year’s form? He should have so many opportunities with Spoon as a partner but he has been a sieve…
Think he bought into his own hype
That’s how this secondary rolls. Spoon better buck this trend
This crew is calling the game way too tight.
This officiating crew needs to chill.
I won’t be an NFL fan for very much longer if this is the reffing standard
Horrible calls
Every single play is a penalty. Come on refs.
Bobby made a play finally
Referees are horrible
This game has so many penalties
Refs are having a hell of a game today. Making plays left and right
Is Amazon playing refs for more playtime
“If we can just squeeze in four more commercials a game Bezos can buy a new lambo”
What is Diggs doing?
He’s going to get fined for that helmet to helmet hit on Ferguson.
Of all the things to flag the Seahawks for, he didn’t get flagged for that.
Yeah plus he could’ve got at flag for taunting too him and Adams
Man we had so many chances to put them at 3rd and long, just gifted them everything. Although that Bobby penalty was bs.
I can’t watch this team play defense. They don’t tackle, they don’t hit, they are undisciplined, they are uncreative and they are overpaid.
Pushed around like a bunch of punks. They will kill us in the 4th quarter.
The first time we have to punt, the game is over. Our defense is stopping anything.
17 flags for 217 yards
Not even the 4th quarter yet
Dak’s “Here we go” is the new Manning “Omaha”
There it is. Ball game!
Welp a Geno Int
Not his fault relaly; that was just a fantastic play by Bland. Defense gets paid too, turns out.
Hmm. Someone should tell that to our defense.
Horrible pass. I hate out routes. I would eliminate them from my playbook
That’s 2 consecutive underthrown passes by Geno
Game over. Well it was fun for awhile…
We’re talking Geno Smith not Joe Montana. Of course he’ll miss some. If the D doesn’t stop anything we can’t win.
Some is an understatement
Geno giveth and taketh away
Draft a QB
Geno just gets full of himself and tries to be more aggressive and throws an Int
Jesus the commentary. BlaNd wAs a HighScHooL reCeiVeR. Every DB was most likely a high school receiver
Geno just Geno’in
Thank you Cowboys for botching that turnover.
Thankfully the Mike McCarthy/Prescott duo is the best in the business at choking
Dallas missed a chance, we have to make sure not to give them next present, not Christmas yet.
Can’t believe they went for that 4th down with their kicker
Why not be aggressive on the two pointer, only to go for it there?
I was wondering the same thing on the extra point.
McCarthy channeled Lanning on that one. And also lucky that CeeDee dropped it.
McCarthy the savior.
Passing on 2 point conversion play and now 4th down instead of taking lead. Pete can use all the help
One does not expect the sense from Mike McCarthy!
Trick play with Deejay Dallas why why
Unnecessary razzle-dazzle to be sure.
This officiating crew is wild.
Dallas is favored by 9.5. Officials got to go to work…
“There is no foul on the play, as it would be against Seattle.”
But thankfully, Charbonnet
*for Seattle
Bobo sighting.. Blocking for Chabornet. Should feature him more
This whole game is setting up that crucial moment when Deejay Dallas throws a pass.
This is how it should be. Everybody making plays. We got the weapons, but we don’t always deploy them.
Go for two
Agreed, thinking of that too
DK with another one
Where has this offense been since Detroit?
I think OL is holding up with Lucas back?
Glad that they finally showed up. Must be the Charbonnet factor.
More than both rams games
Who had up by 8 in the 4th on their bingo card?
I still want to see them show up like this against the 49ers.
One thing is apparent, two pretenders are playing a shootout
I joked before but Waldron doing some really nice things
That begs the question of where has this creativity been all year.
I think we’re going to win
Cursed comment Rob lol
There’s going to be a super chat to punch yourself in the nuts.
Nah. Dallas are flaky AF.
Gotta keep Dallas in the game eh NFL?
How did Taylor not sack Dak
I hate how the refs are calling this game.
Darrell Taylor FFS
Terrible
He’s the only guy we have who can speed rush like that…
unfortunately it does no good if he can’t finish
Seriously, though. You can’t tackle QBs anymore and they don’t call in the grasp? Next time body slam his ass.
Immense schmuck
Darell Taylor can be released
Having enough of Taylor.
forward pass and no flag wow
Holy christ Darrell Taylor. How do you miss the sack there?
Let’s see if we learned to keep the O on the pitch for a long drive.
Worst officiating.. It’s tough for viewers to track ball and flag sametime
We’ve been critical of Woolen and the safeties, and rightly so, but it does seem like there have been a lot of coverage sacks and pressures this game. Dak’s waiting around for someone to get open and it’s often not happening.
Short throws are there.. It’s waiting for deep shots just like Geno used to
Of course, all he has to do is throw it up deep and there is a better than decent chance of a PI flag
Surely that timeout won’t come back and bite us in the ass.
Touchdown drive here may do it
Obviously, Dallas’s evil master plan is to take the ball out of the hands of our best player…
…Michael Dickson!
That is a rare sight
Rare drop by Lockett.
Damn… would have been a huge play, too
JSN baby! What a coming out party.
Crap that was a touchdown there if Lockett catches that
Offensive line got wrecked on that 4th and 1.
Yep, dominated
Dissly and Cross both whiffed, really badly
Uh oh
Man, what a shame.
Yep, I was surprised by that call. Not feeling confident at all
Well that happened
Well guys. It rests in the hands of our defense. How you feeling?
Not confident at all.
Ditto. Our defense sucks.
very, very not confident
Like I just got punched in the gut.
Not good but I think the offense will have a chance to win or tie it with a field goal
Bad play design on 4th. Dallas was getting penetration all series
Just saying again- Charbonnet has changed this offense
They’ve really committed to the run, he’s not breaking run plays but a hard style run keeps the defense honest- I’m fine if they keep resting Walker
Cross has been getting schooled tonight
So has Woolen
Diggs run over
Herbstreit: “Adams was lost out there on an island.” No he is just lost period.
Peacock gotta go!
Zach injured? I don’t want to see Deejay dallas at all
Absolutely horrible officiating.
I’ll take the calls but this is ridiculous.
Why was Parkinson running away from where the run was going…
Our top 10 pick LT just can’t whiff that badly on a crucial 4th down.
If Woolen even breathes on Lamb he gets a penalty.
Hurtt’s D is getting steamrolled. Not looking good,
Was that JS on the sideline yelling after Woolen & Dak jawed at each other?
Schneider sighting on the sideline yelling behind Pete yelling
Good thing we pay that guy 30 mil. Clutch
My eye tells me Dre Jones is more non-existent as an edge than as an interior lineman.
These refs are going for the record.
Come on Jamal strut for us
Jamal gives up a TD
OK Adams I see you
Adams… got nothing
“Adams lost out there on an island..”
I apologize for saying Adams plays better than Diggs.
Talk shit now Jamal
We want to see it
NO LEAD IS EVER SAFE WITH THIS DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
Dallas fans probably fell same aboit their defense being bad; until that 4th downcstop.
Honestly when defense holds other team our offense can’t score a FG for their life. Otheraay around is the same.
Inconsistency is Pete’s trademark
Adam’s being lost is definitely right Adam’s being lost is definitely right.
Dingus out there swatting the air… god I hate him.
Juice head that has no awareness. He’s thinking “at least I got rich!”
Rob did you jinx Seattle with that comment earlier?
Dak is cringe
Adams, Diggs, Woolen, a trifecta of turnstyles
You left out Cross
Moving on from Jamal and Diggs should be the easiest decision this front office ever makes. If either dude is still on this team next August, we’ll know all is lost.
Wager you a beer Adams is…
Pete’s ego won’t allow him to be cut.
Peacock gonna peacock. SMH
Field goal to tie it though, not impossible.
There is neither a defender near Dak nor the receiver on both plays. Pete’s special!
There is nothing worse as a fan (in my opinion) than watching a defense that cannot stop anything.
I remember when Jamal adams played for the jets. The before times.
Hopefully Jodi sees what 20 million of her brothers money gets with this staff
Can we please get rid of adams? He sucks.
They don’t wanna admit it was a bad trade
Wtf was that. Oh right, our season
Well it’s time for Geno to step up and show he’s the man now
Can we see Kenny this game?
Come on guys don’t choke now…
DJ Dallas has no place on team
Ball game
Likely
Jamal Adams second worst trade in the history of the national football league only topped by the Herschel Walker fleecing that Jimmy Johnson put on The Vikings
He cant cover.. dont know why hes a safety..
This the real Geno
Geno gives a receiver no chance
Bloody hell
Draft a QB
And an entire defense
Hopefully they do but knowing Pete he’ll always say just run it back Geno’s good enough.
This defense is laughable.
Three games into six losses in a row.
We lost because we left our best player on the bench the whole game: Michael Dickson
I think we shot our wad tonight I think we’ll get rolled the next 2 games
Well that might be the only way to get Carroll to realize he needs to retire.
What’s the opposite of a pyrric victory? That’s whatever this is
Even as bad as our defense is I was surprised Pete didn’t punt there. But after watching the defense now, I get it.
Reminds me of when Wilson was here, only with Wilson I felt we had a chance to come back.
Time for Pete to sail off into the sunset. Take that bum Clint Hurtt with him.
Another Diggs whiffed tackle. But he’s great on X!
Consolation prize: offense putting up some points (except when it matters). Pete will brag all week.
Nothing changed.
All I can say is these refs look like Pac12 refs tonight. It is a fairly one sided nightmare.
No hold on #18 on the Cee Dee sweep? Give me a break refs.
Good thing we’ve got all 3 time outs….oh wait
DK was absolutely destroying on offense and nothing thrown his way for most of the 2nd half.
Yet Dallas keeps feeding Lamb.
Have we even tried the slant that scored in the 1st quarter again?
This offense could be the best in the game, if not for one vital piece
Shane Waldron has been dragged thru the mud the past 2 weeks. Seriously, lets talk about Pete Carroll and Clint Hurrt’s defense. How many seasons of this type of defense (or lack thereof) do we need to witness. Soft zones, poor tackling, no creativity, overpaid underperforming vets. I am fed up…
It’s been 5 years of trash, worst part is people still pretend like it’s the LOB days.
Like Sherman during halftime? Talking up Riq, Witherspoon & ole man Wagz like a trio of all-pros. The reality is that we got pushed around and physically dominated all night by a much better football team.
On that second & four I was surprised they didn’t run with Dallas again especially with a lead.
Sad thing … I think this was about the best we can play.
Totally agree with you Troy
Lol Mike McCarthy keeping us in it
Geno wasn’t perfect but did enough to win this.
Years and years of qbs getting let down by defense.
Some significance to Pete’s intensity, Schneider suited up on the sideline- clear this game matters to them
Statistically it’s a big swing in playoff probability but I also wonder if they realized this team needs a kick in the ass
Dallas is a pretender. I don’t think they can win in post season with McCarthy
Yeah, this game doesn’t inspire confidence that they are very good
Mccarthy and his career reminds me of another coach.
No timeouts, 1:43. At least now give it to DK.
This is the move
Well Geno gets another shot to be a hero.
Is this team allergic to hot routes?
FFS
deep dropback on 4th and2, huh?
and leave the best pass rusher in the league untouched
HOW DO YOU LET PARSONS COME UNBLOCKED ON 4TH DOWN?
Did Geno just throw the ball away on 4th down not even giving the WR’s a chance
I am as critical of Geno as anyone but he had no chance on that 4th down.
I’m no Geno fan but that is not on him that is on the offensive line failing to block one of the best pass rushers if not the best pass rusher in the NFL
Yeah you need one of three TE’s put there. That was bs to go down like that.
Sorry Geno, if you can’t get 2 yards on three attempts with the game on the line, you simply don’t belong.
unblocked
That last offensive play sums us up. We’re average, our coaching is mediocre, and we need change.
We are the Vikings West.
That’s an improvement from Jets East.. Victory lap time
This game should indicate that Geno’s not the answer he’s just good enough to be mediocre. He can’t win you the ball game when your down. He’s ok against bad teams and just dreadful against good teams.
Please Please draft a QB just move on from Geno
Thought Geno was decent this game. One of his best recently.
It’d be nice if the defense could stop a single drive. I might’ve missed it going to the bathroom or something … but, did Dallas punt even once?
Last 2 playcalls were horrible. Then on the last play Geno just has to throw it up there. You can ground it.
And don’t even block their best pass rusher? FFS
3 plays for 2 yards with game online and failed. That’s Pete and Co
Well.. They scored some and then choked. At least happy for the draft position.
That 2nd rd pick might have helped
not having that 2nd rounder is going to be extremely frustrating.
It’s going to be a much higher pick in the round than they were anticipating, I’m sure.
Shanny played Pete both on and off field
I’m done with Jason Myers too.
All his kicks were jumping right.. but the dallas kicker was off too…
Dallas kicker didn’t miss.
We don’t have to choose between it being the QB and the defense, both can be true
Seahawks scored 35 in a game the defense did not help them at all. Sorry to go against the grain and the immediacy bias of the last drive, but this loss was on the defense.
My god the resources blown on that defense is just staggering.
Adams and Diggs. 2 worst starters on defense.
Anyone else feel apathetic after that one? I feel like a win would prolong the inevitable
Chris Sims has said there is very little that seperates a backup qb and a starter..
Geno is showing he is not a starter.. basically grounds the ball on 4th down.. chucks it deep because of pressure when JSN ran his route right.. maybe the hawks need to be smacked down for some real change…
Well Pete doesn’t want to lose the locker room by benching Geno
Genos in the same spot as Pete and this team: doesn’t play terrible enough to bench, doesn’t play well enough to carry the team. He’s the perfect QB for us because he will always keep us between 7 and 9 wins
I hope after this game and season it results in major changes and starting with Pete then Geno
Entertaining game. I do think the refs were atrocious and super one sided. Many flags on Hawks that were close. Many kept in their pocket when Dallas was doing the same or worse. How does Cee Dee not get Offensive PI? If Hawks did that to him, our corner spends the night in a Dallas county jail. No hold call on #18 on the sweep that sprung Cee Dee for a long gain? The no call on the Reed hold in first half? How egregious was that for a huge gain? There are so many my fingers hurt already just typing these. Terribly called game I believe.
Offense was good enough tonight minus the end. Our defense looked like they played hard but we have proven to be an over priced squad. Our LB play is bad. Adams can’t cover. Diggs is a shade of himself. And our pressure is simply not good enough despite all the investment.
Hurtt should be fired tomorrow. Not doing enough. Dallas has a good O and when you let them hold all night it makes it tough. I didn’t think Hawks would cover and they did. So at least there was a little fire. Just not good enough from the D. Sure beats the hapless team I saw play the 49ers last week.
Btw. Where in the heck is Dre Mont Jones? I saw him chase someone early in the game like he was playing LB. Never again did I see the guy do anything. Did he get hurt? Is he hurt?
He had one good play I remember …
Good use of resources. Anyone remember the Bennett and Avril free agent signings?