Curtis Allen’s week three watch notes (vs Panthers)

Challenges come in all different shapes and sizes during an NFL season. Sometimes, it is purely a very tough opponent. Others – like this week – the challenge comes from circumstance.

NFL-watchers across the nation do not see much juice in this matchup. Most talking heads and the betting community at large are predicting a comfortable win for the Seahawks.

The close-quarter fans of the Seahawks know different though. The 0-2 Panthers are a loss dressed in a win’s clothing. Circumstance is playing a heavy hand in this game.

At this point, Bryce Young’s ankle injury is a blessing for the Panthers, as he had not looked comfortable in the offense and had been unable to throw the ball past the sticks effectively at all.

Andy Dalton is no world-beater. But as a backup and a fill-in starter for this game, he is a stabilizing presence that can keep the offense afloat, and perhaps cook up some magic with Adam Thielen.

And then there is last year’s Week Fourteen matchup, where Carolina clearly demonstrated they should not be taken lightly. The 4-8 Panthers came into Seattle and manhandled the playoff-bound Seahawks by dominating the trenches, rushing for 223 yards and only allowing 46 on the ground to complete one of the NFL’s most dubious feats of the year – an NFC South division sweep of the Seahawks. Pete Carroll and the Seahawks have not forgotten this.

On the other side, Seattle is a very beat up team right now. They are still without their top two Offensive Tackles, and an impressive performance against the Lions last week should not lull anyone into thinking they can just move forward, business as usual. Brian Burns and Justin Houston will make sure to present a real test for Stone Forsythe and Jake Curhan.

The defense has arguably their three most important players – Jarran Reed, Riq Woolen and Quandre Diggs – dealing with injuries and as a unit are once again dragging hard to open the season.

After two games they are:

-31st in total yards allowed
-30th in passing yards allowed
-30th in sacks and 25th in pressures
-Tied for 30th in first downs conceded
-29th in scoring defense

Yes, it is only a two-game sample. Yes, the run defense has improved. But this is a tune we have heard so many times we know it by heart. A sluggish defensive start could lead to losing games they should comfortably win, and cause them some heartburn come December, when they are scraping for a playoff spot.

This is a thorny matchup that might not show up on the NFL radar as a key game, but this one will be a real test of the Seahawks’ mettle. After an embarrassment at home against the Rams to open the season, and an inspiring bounce back win against a tough Lions team on the road, this is a game where we get some insight into where this team is headed in 2023.

Let’s dig into our watch points for this week.

Keep the Panther Rushing Game in Check

This is obvious. Last year, every time the Panthers needed a play against Seattle, they simply ran the ball and the Seahawks were powerless to stop them.

After two games, the Panthers are ninth in the NFL in yards per game, rushing for 127 yards. The Seahawks are thirteenth in run defense, conceding 97 per game. After a 223-yard rushing day last year, it is tempting to ask for ‘just an average day’ for the defense, and truth be told, that should help propel them to victory. Sam Darnold quarterbacked them to a win on only 12 of 24 throwing for 120 yards and one touchdown without any turnovers. Hardly the stuff of legend.

Miles Sanders and Chuba Hubbard are the latest Panther running backs, and they both are able to run effectively between the tackles. With the pass protection problems Carolina has (more on that in a minute) and the fact they are currently not employing a dynamic passing attack, success in the run game is essential for them to take home a victory.

The Seahawk rushing defense is putting up vastly better numbers than last year. But there is still much work to be done. A healthy day containing their ground game would go a long, long way towards earning them a victory.

Do Not Let Andy Dalton Play His Game

It is being widely reported that Dalton has a career 3-1 record against the Seahawks. While that is true, a little context is in order.

Last year, he contributed only sixteen caught passes for 187 yards to a win for New Orleans. 111 of those yards came after the catch. The Saints won by rushing for 235 yards. His other three games against the Seahawks came 4 years ago, 8 years ago, and 11 years ago. That is just too big a gap to put any credence into his record against them. It is not as if he has some kind of consistent iron grip on the current Seahawks.

What does he do well?

He specializes in the kind of play that has given the Seahawks fits in recent years – papercutting the defense to death by plodding down the field with short, safe passes that get the ball out his hands quickly.

It is a big reason why the Seahawks have struggled so much against backup quarterbacks. Coaches rein the game plan in and give long-tenured veteran passers an easier game plan to work with, and it minimizes chances for turnovers and rewards patience and ball control.

When combined with a lack of pass rush pressure, it is a successful formula for opposing teams.

So that is where we start with beating Andy Dalton: pressure him and press the receivers. This is a golden opportunity for the Seahawks to disrupt the Panthers’ entire game with pressure.

The Seahawks have invested heavily in players who can cause problems for the quarterback and the Panthers’ offensive line has been extremely poor in pass protection so far this season. In just two games, they have conceded six sacks, a whopping 31% pressure rate and Bryce Young has fumbled twice (and unofficially was strip sacked a third time, but the defense was flagged for a penalty on the play). Generating pressure without constant blitzing should be a reasonable expectation for this defense.

The coverage team has an equally important job to fit this together and keep their offense from functioning well. They need to disrupt receivers’ routes or otherwise provide tight coverage to make Dalton hold onto the ball.

Last year for the Saints, Dalton had one of the quickest triggers in the NFL, spending only 2.3 seconds in the pocket on average. His entire body of output was predicated on getting the ball out of his hands to playmakers like Alvin Kamara and Chris Olave and letting them be the offense. Look at this stunning gap in effectiveness when Dalton was forced to hold onto the ball:

His completion percentage and quarterback rating drop from “Nearly NFL Elite” to “Use Him As An Emergency QB Only.” His sack rate quadruples. His touchdown and interception throws are equal.

It all starts with covering and disrupting those quick throws. And that is also where Seattle’s weakness has lied.

Matt Stafford and Jared Goff have mercilessly picked on defenders in the middle of the field with quick, short passes.
The results are ugly:

Julian Love is Seattle’s most-targeted defender so far this season with 19 targets, and he is allowing a 74% completion rate. Jordyn Brooks and Coby Bryant are tied for the third-most targeted with 10 each and have conceded 9 catches for an awful 90% rate. Bobby Wagner is conceding 100% on four targets. And what’s worse? Those four already have 12 missed tackles, including 3 from Wagner, who only had 2 missed tackles in 17 games last year. As a team the Seahawks are one of the NFL’s worst with 23 missed tackles so far.

Coverage is a problem. Tackling is also a problem. Those are basically the only two things defenders behind the line of scrimmage need to do. This game is a fantastic opportunity to shore things up and give the offense a chance to really dominate.

Run On This Defense. A Lot.

I cannot begin to tell you how much the Seahawks would benefit themselves if they decide to commit to the run game against the Panthers.

First off, it would be a nice bit of revenge for last year’s game. The Seahawk running backs were plagued by injury, and they were only able to roll out Travis Homer and Tony Jones in the backfield. The 46 yards they gained on the ground were painful to watch.

More importantly though, the matchup is excellent here. The Panthers are conceding an average of 132 yards per game this year – good for twenty-fifth in the NFL – but that is just a small part of the story.

In only two games they have conceded thirteen runs of eight or more yards. Thirteen! The runs have come both up the middle and around the edges. Teams are gashing the Panthers at a time where their own offense is struggling and cannot make up the difference, and the Seahawks have a runner who already proven explosive in the NFL in Kenneth Walker, and another who is just waiting to break out in Zach Charbonnet.

The Seahawks must take advantage of this opportunity. They have only run the ball with their running backs 39 times in two games so far. Yes, part of that is the fact they had a dismal second half against the Rams, but there is every reason to feature the running game against Carolina.

It gives the defense rest and allows them to go all out. It does all sort of wonders for the passing game, especially proving that play-action will be effective.

Perhaps most important, though, is that it protects the offensive line in a time where they are vulnerable. Brian Burns, Justin Houston and Frankie Luvu have already made their mark this year as excellent pass rushers. They can come from the edges or inside. But when a team is not defending the run very well, they can keep those pass rushers in check by running the ball on the ground and not even giving them a chance to get in gear.


  1. Rob Staton

    I am so sorry I have posted this late — I’ve had a crazy working day

    • Peter

      And another thing about qb’s…..I kid, my man😄

    • Palatypus

      No problem, we’re all resourceful here.

  2. Peter

    Thanks Rob for posting and Cha for writing this.

    Really hoping we can stop the brian burns and friends experience.

  3. Whit21

    Another bad zach wilson day for the jets.. anyone think the jets are gonna call JS for Drew Lock trade?

    • Ukalex6674

      Hardly an upgrade imo

    • Romeo A57

      I think most of the league sees Lock and Zach about the same.

    • Whit21

      Geno just not the guy. His throws are mixed.. throwing with loft.. bullet passes.. bad vision.. everything is mixed.. no consistency with the right throw.. thats what makes a qb.. the right throw and making it.. geno still doesnt have it to be a playoff/SB QB..

      • whit21

        The issues I see with Geno is the rocks into his throws. He loads up on his back foot and rocks into his throws. He needs better timing and a balanced offense if hes gonna throw like that. His deeper passes are way off or just high. He had chances to throw low and give his WR a chance at a catch but he throws high and out of bounds. Thats very concerning as a playmaker type of QB. The panthers shouldn’t be able to force bad passes and the deep game that PC loves is so absent its atrocious.

        I always felt that Drew Lock was capable of doing what PC has always wanted last season, but Geno played well enough to keep Lock as the 2. I do not like how Geno rolls and rocks into his throws and it feels like he doesnt know on some throws what to do. He lofted a throw to lockett where the DB thought he had an easy pick and locket came in and had it on his finger tips. Did lockett break it up or did he break up the INT?

        If this team under performs and can get a better QB in this draft. I am ok with that. Put drew lock on the trade block or start him at this point.. This Geno love is not gonna be good by seasons end. Start lock or look for the next QB at this point. Its imperative at this point to look at a team thats very young but needs a QB,

        Still will not concede the fact that PC time is limited and I think that Dan Quinn’s time as a head coach is not unlikely. The only thing I can think of is the new NFL norm is to go after an offensive HC with a prominent D coordinator.

  4. Mick

    I didn’t see Payton starting 0-3 and his D looking so helpless.

    • Whit21

      And its not even over yet.. yikes

  5. ShowMeYourHawk

    Time to see if Hurtt can actually put together a scheme that doesn’t allow Dalton to dink and dunk his way to ANOTHER backup QB upset.

    • Whit21

      Exactly.. i feel like theres gonna be too many blitzes and andy will have a lot of short passes planned and execute… but its hard with how many DBs are out.. its gonna be interesting the game plan on D

  6. Ukalex6674

    Brandon Staley……what a poor call

  7. SeaPunk

    10 TD for Miami. And it isn’t even over yet. This is incredible.

  8. Kyle R

    Don’t know what’s worse the stupid penalty on Love for the obvious helmet to helmet or actually giving up that big play.

  9. bmseattle

    Love and Jones…our two big free agent signings have been a net negative so far.

    • Kyle R

      Seattle where good players come to disappear because of coaching and scheme

      • Tony

        It’s true but Jones is a huge disappointment. He might be my least favorite Seahawk. Effort is awful.

  10. Blitzy the Clown

    Great play by Mafe. Time for the pass rush to light it up

  11. Peter


  12. Blitzy the Clown

    Time to pound the rock

  13. Big Mike

    What was that, about a 5 min drive?

    • Blitzy the Clown

      More like 7

      • Whit21

        Eye test and stats show that lock is beyond zach wilson at this point..

  14. Palatypus

    Who had the Broncos defense today in FF? What did that get you?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      A peptic ulcer, most likely.

      • Palatypus

        I just ate half a dozen tandoori wings with “Smack my A$$ and Call Me Sally” sauce.

        So, stay tuned!

  15. Peter

    Solid stop all things considered.

  16. Blitzy the Clown

    That’s beautiful!

  17. Blitzy the Clown

    Again with the DK Lockett. Get it right man. It’s not hard

    • Palatypus

      Brian Largent and Steve Blades.

  18. Blitzy the Clown


  19. bmseattle

    the true test of your offensive line’s run blocking ability…short yardage.

  20. Blitzy the Clown

    It looked short to me based on the spot. But I thought the spot was short

    Whatever. As long as it’s a new set of downs

  21. ShowMeYourHawk

    Less than a quarter gone and this officiating team has made the game about them.

    • bmseattle

      anyone want to join my Fantasy Officiating league?

      • Palatypus

        I warned you.

        • Blitzy the Clown

          Call me Sally’s revenge?

  22. Big Mike

    This already feels like one of those games where everything we get will be like a trip to the dentist

  23. bmseattle

    did that bounce off of his helmet?

    • Big Mike

      Think so

    • Hawkster

      An Adam’s sighting? I’m confused

  24. ShowMeYourHawk

    Hey Shane, if we could utilize our first round, first taken WR some time this season, that’d be wonderful.

    • bmseattle

      Has he been playing?
      I saw Bobo out there last drive.

  25. Blitzy the Clown

    Ugh Witherspoon

  26. Blitzy the Clown

    Ah Witherspoon

  27. Palatypus

    This is our crew today.

    Yrs 2022 crew College Occupation
    R 62 Ron Torbert 14 Michigan State attorney
    U 20 Barry Anderson 17 Boger North Carolina State builder/developer
    DJ 21 Max Causey 2 * Louisiana Tech financial advisor
    LJ 100 Maia Chaka 3 Martin Norfolk State health and physical education teacher
    FJ 25 Ryan Dickson 7 * Utah commercial real estate developer
    SJ 7 Keith Washington 16 * Virginia Military Institute program financial analyst
    BJ 67 Tony Josselyn 6 * Eastern Kentucky probation officer
    RO Artenzia Young-Seigler 4 Allen Paul Quinn College
    RA Desiree Abrams 4 Clark Florida A&M food safety enforcement coo

  28. Blitzy the Clown

    No that was Dremont Jones

    • Blitzy the Clown

      And Reed

      But hey Jones finally did something

  29. Peter

    Witherspoon…..getting there.

    • Big Mike

      Fairly quickly too

  30. Big Mike

    Good defensive series

  31. AlaskaHawk

    I hope this is a confidence builder for the defense. And the offense LOL

    • Peter

      Playing a bad offense helps. But yeah. Hope this is a building block

  32. Big Mike

    Outstanding play design

  33. Hawks4life

    Can we please get JSN involved….

    • James Kupihea

      we drafted him to fake handoffs… apparently.

  34. Palatypus

    Oh, crap!

    I just realized there are THREE women on this crew.

    • SeaPunk

      Cut the sexism!

    • SeaPunk

      No need to be sexist.

  35. Blitzy the Clown

    That’s who I want to see some more of — Charbonnet

    • AlaskaHawk

      I would like to see the running backs make a few good runs. Really slash the Panthers up.

    • James

      Let the big fella rumble!

      (also JSN been behind the LOS more than I’d like to see ALREADY)…

      • Hawkster

        McCaffrey envy

  36. Blitzy the Clown

    That’s my MOFO!

    • Blitzy the Clown

      effen penalty

      • Big Mike


      • AlaskaHawk

        ferk, just when they had momentum.

      • James

        keep feedin’ him. K9 hasn’t quite figured it out today.

  37. Blitzy the Clown

    Stone Forsythe gettin it done!

    • bmseattle


      • Blitzy the Clown

        I don’t know too many LTs would’ve handled Burns on that rep

  38. ShowMeYourHawk

    Props where they’re due, Geno’s footwork in the pocket looks fantastic.

  39. Blitzy the Clown

    Looks like a wrist for Lewis. Next man up

  40. Big Mike

    (in my best Dan Patrick voice)…Stone Forsythe with whiff

  41. James

    So the Vikings lost again… Perhaps they’d want to save some money on Danielle Hunter…. 😀

  42. cha

    Anyone else think Cam Young is showing up well today so far?

  43. bmseattle

    Ugh…did anyone see what happened to Brown?
    Hope it wasn’t his knee again.

    • Sea Mode

      Looked more like the head from the way he was rolling around, but I didn’t really see it.

    • James

      Knee to the head.

      • James

        A big ass RB knee to the head*

  44. ShowMeYourHawk

    OMG. If we can unlock that little bit of Barry Sanders that K9 has in his game, we could really have something.

    • Romeo A57

      That was an outstanding shift move by Walker.

      • SEAhemoth82

        That filthy juke move reminded me of when I saw Marshawn jukeRay Lewis and Jarret Johnson in 2011. Lewis supposedly broke his toe from when he bit on that juke move.

  45. Sea Mode

    Ole! Juked him out of his shoes!

  46. Palatypus

    Was that one of Geno’s “Interceptable Balls?”

  47. Blitzy the Clown

    Settling for FGs. Letting Carolina hang around.

    Seen this script before

  48. SEAhemoth82

    Death by Field Goal.

    • Palatypus

      Death by Snu Snu.

  49. Sea Mode

    Man, our offense is great at losing momentum today…

  50. James

    Can the coaches watch some of JSN’s college highlights and then give him an actual route to run, please?

    • Palatypus

      1.8 yards deep.

  51. Big Mike

    Strategy obviously to pick on Jackson

    • bmseattle

      probably a wise strategy

  52. Sea Mode

    Arizona beating Dallas?

  53. Blitzy the Clown


  54. Blitzy the Clown

    Finally some home field advantage with these false starts

  55. Blitzy the Clown

    Derp derp

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Was Diggs really even running?

    • Hawks4life

      Solid effort from Diggs…..sike, such lazy effort from a guy who thinks he’s elite

  56. ShowMeYourHawk

    Letting them hang around. Sigh.

  57. Big Mike

    Absolutely pathetic

  58. cha

    Quandre is a great leader in our locker room and highly respected by everyone.

    • Sea Mode


    • Big Mike

      Does a fine job quaterbacking the defense too

  59. Troy

    Worst defense in the NFL. PERIOD.

    • James

      Hey, the Broncos gave up 70. At least we’re not going to do that.

  60. Big Mike

    Coaching coaching coaching and oh yeah, COACHING

  61. AlaskaHawk

    That was brutal. I know our defense is beat up already but…

    The offense better start over performing

  62. Blitzy the Clown

    Super clean pocket and Geno throws an absolute turd

  63. HOUSE

    Julian Love… WTF??? Quandrae Diggs… WTFF???

  64. clbradley17

    Even the announcers can tell we don’t know what defense we’re running. Not on the same page. One announcer said “Some guys are in a zone, others are playing man to man.” Embarrassing.

  65. Kyle R

    Don’t get me wrong that was a huge blown coverage by the defense, however, if the offense didn’t keep getting constipated in the red zone and score a TD just once we’d still be in the lead.

    • Big Mike


  66. Big Mike

    Going from bad to worse

    • Big Mike

      And worse

  67. Blitzy the Clown

    feels like a huge momentum shift in this game

  68. AlaskaHawk

    That’s 2 errant passes that Lockett has knocked down to prevent an interception.

    • AlaskaHawk

      and now an interception on the left hash mark.

    • Tallyhawk

      Make that 3. WTF we are having success running yet we’re just going to force it to Lockett

  69. ShowMeYourHawk

    Abandon the run with four minutes on the clock. Going only for the big pass.


  70. Blitzy the Clown

    Two gawdawful throws from Geno in a row

    After a solid quarter and a half. WTF?!?!?!

  71. bmseattle

    geno has been playing with fire all day. Could have 3 interceptions.

  72. Romeo A57

    Geno was playing with fire on those near interceptions. Just got burnt.

  73. cha

    Geno Smith is confused by the Seahawks wearing the home whites. He’s throwing to the dark jerseys out of habit.

    • Sea Mode


    • Pran

      Sickening to see an old TE running all over the field and one with in 5 yards

  74. Big Mike

    Hawks in serious trouble if they TD here. Carolina gets the ball to start the 2nd.

  75. Blitzy the Clown

    Wagner’s best play in a while

  76. Hawks4life

    As long as Geno is starting at QB and Pete is managing this team we will never win a meaningful game. Harsh reality of a Seahawks fan in 2023

    • Kyle R

      With Pete and Geno the best you can hope for is always about .500 give or take.

  77. Blitzy the Clown

    Nice play by Artie.

    Good out by the defense. Let’s hope the offense can rally.

    • Big Mike

      Surprisingly good no call too

      • Blitzy the Clown

        I was worried because he didn’t really turn his head but in the replay he kinda does so…

        Yeah, finally got one from the zebras

    • Romeo A57

      Big hold by the Defense there.

  78. Sea Mode

    2-min warning and 2 timeouts. Let’s respond with some urgency here before the half.

    • AlaskaHawk

      They are in good position at mid field.

  79. Sea Mode

    The Dolphins scored 70 points!?! 😮

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Yep. Clearly Russ’ fault.

      • Kyle R

        What the hell happened to all the creativity with the TEs last week?

        • Kyle R

          Oops not meant to be a reply

  80. ShowMeYourHawk

    What is this horrible red zone bullsh*t?

  81. bmseattle

    It seems the tight ends are no longer a part of the offense

    • Kyle R

      I swear the coaching staff must use a magic 8 ball before they game plan for the use of TEs

      • bmseattle

        it’s like they don’t think they can do the same stuff 2 weeks in a row.

  82. Blitzy the Clown

    Geno ice?


    Gee, no ice!

  83. Troy

    Why does this team always play down to the opponent? Backup QBs own Seattle!

  84. Blitzy the Clown

    That unpleasant odor you may notice is the stench of mediocrity

    • Big Mike

      Since the loss to the Pats in 49.

      • bmseattle

        over time, you don’t even notice the smell anymore.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      I should bottle it and call it “Shambollocks”

    • Palatypus

      What DOES Andy Dalton smell like?

      • Big Mike


        (sometimes the jokes write themselves)

        • Big Mike

          wtf that’s funny

        • SEAhemoth82


      • Blitzy the Clown

        Sun-dried Guinness puke

  85. geoff u

    I hear that new Dolphin’s head coach can scheme an offense. Any indication this is true?

    • SEAhemoth82

      I think McD showed 70 different ways in which you could dismember an NFL team today.

  86. Ty

    Looks like Geno Jet is back. But QB is totally fine!

  87. Blitzy the Clown

    Boye Mafe is a a dawg

    He doesn’t always make the play, but he always brings, it every play

    • cha

      You can see a foundation.

      Mafe and Witherspoon.

      • Big Mike


        • Pack of K9s

          I agree, I think the defense has enough pieces to be decent just not the coaching for it

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Also with Witherspoon, he breaks on the ball so well. Haven’t seen that kind of instinct in a while

  88. bmseattle

    we were very lucky not to get a roughing the passer called against us there. very late push.

  89. Palatypus

    I think KC might put up more than 70 on Chi.

    • SEAhemoth82

      I blame Taylor Swift.

      • Blitzy the Clown



        • SEAhemoth82

          Let’s be honest here, it would be Travis Swift.

          • geoff u

            Jordan Travis Smith, new Seahawks quarterback

      • Palatypus

        I wish Taylor Swift would stop writing songs about Bobo.

  90. Blitzy the Clown

    Julian Love made a play y’all

  91. geoff u

    If the Cardinals only needed to play the first half of a game they’d be 3-0. Depending on how the 3rd quarter goes, this may turn into, if they just didn’t have to play the 4th quarter…

    • Big Mike

      They’ll tank the 2nd half
      (Love to be wrong)

  92. AlaskaHawk

    Our new found defensive dominance?

  93. Blitzy the Clown

    Nice 3rd down conversion to Parkinson

  94. Blitzy the Clown

    OMG wtf Geno give me a cardiac

  95. ShowMeYourHawk

    Geno tempting Satan with THAT pass. Metcalf, right place and right time.

  96. Big Mike

    Awesome RAC by Walker

    • Romeo A57

      I sure like the way he is playing today.

  97. Blitzy the Clown

    DJ wildcat

    Scratch it down for me fellas

  98. ShowMeYourHawk

    Approach the 20…. offense falters. Waldron is automatic the middle 60 yards.

    • Big Mike

      If we lose today this will clearly be why

  99. Donovan

    Devon Witherspoon is going to be really good – amazing closing speed on passes.

  100. Romeo A57

    At least Meyers is doing his job today.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      It’s an even date

  101. Sea Mode

    3rd and short, of course let’s allow a defender a free run at Geno… 🤦‍♂️

    • James

      We have five traffic cones on the line…

  102. 805Hawk

    How is it that we aren’t killing this depleted, terrible Panther’s team. Five field goals. Really? I get the OL issues, but this is not comfortable.

  103. SEAhemoth82

    We can’t run the Wildcat without Ronnie Brown, or Ricky Williams.

  104. Blitzy the Clown

    Cam Young absorbing double teams out there. Can’t ask for a lot more than that right now

  105. Big Mike

    Aaaand another shitty Carroll challenge

  106. ShowMeYourHawk

    Do we need better video screens at Lumen? How can Pete challenge after being given the time to see that was CLEARLY a catch?

    • Sea Mode

      Honestly, I have no clue.

    • James Kupihea

      He’s somewhere around average at 45%. The best in the NFL has been in the upper 50s usually.

  107. Troy

    Certainties in life: Death, Taxes and the Seahawks Defense giving up leads on the very next possession.

    • Big Mike

      Hey whatta ya know!

      • Sea Mode

        Wide right!

  108. Blitzy the Clown

    Well done defense!

  109. Big Mike

    And btw who’s this Gross Ma Toast that plays for Carolina. Did our guy defect?

  110. ShowMeYourHawk

    I want a JSN featured drive. Make it happen.

    • Hawks4life

      Week 17

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        Oh, so it WILL happen? *exhales*

  111. AlaskaHawk

    Four Flags!! fOUR fLAGS!! Go Hawks!!

    • geoff u

      Hey they can’t ALL be against the Seahawks.

      (Yes they were)

    • Palatypus

      Two more flags and you have a theme park!

  112. Sea Mode

    Bobo absolutely destroyed some dude on a double team coming across the formation…

  113. Hawks4life

    They send Walker deeper than JSN lol, Nice play though

  114. Big Mike

    Second time this season we’ve been called for that penalty. That is bad coaching

    • James

      A blindside block to a guy’s front……..

      • Big Mike

        No, the uncovered Tackle

        • James

          My apologies; there are a lot of penalties in a short window. lol

          • Big Mike

            Boy if that ain’t the truth

  115. Blitzy the Clown

    Nifty play action to Fant. Well schemed and well executed

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Agreed. Waldron can design some nifty plays, which makes the red zone issues that much more baffling.

      • Big Mike

        Very nifty

  116. Kyle R

    It’s almost like good things happen when you involve the TEs!!

  117. geoff u

    If anyone’s wondering the number is 8, 8 is the most field goals made in a game.

  118. AlaskaHawk

    Yes Never give up!

    This message approved by Marshawn Lynch

  119. Big Mike


  120. SEAhemoth82

    Common sense play calling saves lives.

  121. ShowMeYourHawk

    How many more injuries can this OL take? I mean….. Jeebus.

    • AlaskaHawk


  122. Palatypus

    For those not watching RedZone., Arizona is playing very fast defense today. They are rolling everything away from Micah Parsons and using a hard count to get him to jump off-sides. Their defensive backs are also playing sticky coverage.

    • James

      That new DC is definitely doing the work.

  123. Romeo A57

    Big touchdown by Walker. Let’s see if the defense can close out this game.

  124. Kyle R

    So I know we put a call out to all guys in the Seattle area over 300 pounds before the season started for the D-line well now we are back asking for the same type of guys for the On-line today.

  125. Blitzy the Clown

    Julian Love playing a much better game today

  126. Blitzy the Clown

    Witherspoon with another solid tackle

  127. Big Mike

    Total fuck job

    • Romeo A57

      Agreed, bad call

  128. Kyle R

    Is that a bullshit ref hazing the rookie call?

  129. Blitzy the Clown


  130. Big Mike

    So the referees are going to give Carolina points now

  131. AlaskaHawk

    I want to see that play again. Have to look it up tomorrow.

  132. Big Mike

    I am so sick of bad officiating in the NFL

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Why, Big Mike! Whatever do you mean?!?

  133. Palatypus

    Those three women on the officiating crew are having a group dance to “What have you done for me lately?” by Janet Jackson.

  134. Big Mike

    Referees gifted them this TD
    Such TOTAL bullshit

    • Troy

      We had them 1st and 20. Against a team with no offense. Our defense sucks.

      • Pack of K9s

        I love trashing the defense but they played 3 nearly perfect downs and earned a 3 and out. When the refs give the other team bonus chances every defense in nfl history looks bad. I think its within reason to be upset about the PI call there

        • Troy

          I LOVE Witherspoon and hated that call, but I want this defense to show me something. I am not giving them a pass because of one bad call.

    • Kyle R

      While I agree the call was bullshit on Witherspoon. Big Mike the Seahawks had Andy Fucking Dalton 1st and 20 after two false starts near mid field and still gave up that TD.

  135. Troy

    Worst defense in the NFL. Busted coverages galore. 1st and 20. Easy.

    • geoff u

      You’d have to have a coverage to bust it

  136. SEAhemoth82

    FATALITY. Adam Thielen WINS.

  137. Rushless pass

    Why the hell is Bobby covering thielen ?

  138. Rushless pass

    Why the hell is Bobby covering thielen ?

  139. Palatypus

    Justin Fields is starting to look like Tim Tebow.

    • Romeo A57

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Fields doesn’t start again for the Bears. There is no upside at this point, he is a bust.

  140. Blitzy the Clown

    No Cam Young in goal line?

    • Palatypus

      They are all gasses.

  141. Big Mike

    Seahawks 22
    Panthers 13
    Referees 7

    Fuck you NFL

  142. Kyle R

    Need him at Guard now on the next offensive position.

  143. Pran

    Defense cannot be fixed unless someone outside from Petes coaching tree is hired. Look at OC, he is doing much better with a backup QB.

  144. Kyle R

    Damn it meant to be a reply to Blitzy

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Blitzy laughed

      Or was that crying?

      Blitzy’s not always sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  145. Blitzy the Clown

    Hello TEs

    • Big Mike

      Hello Zach

  146. Palatypus

    Referees got paid off with Taylor Swift tickets.

  147. AlaskaHawk

    Well it’s obvious the only winning strategy is for the offense to score more points than the other team.

    I like what I’m seeing from Charbonnet.
    Love the power.

  148. Blitzy the Clown

    Walker’s fresh legs brought to you by…

    Zach Charbonnet

  149. ShowMeYourHawk

    Man, Walker is our entire offense.

  150. Big Mike

    Really oline series there

    • Big Mike


    • Blitzy the Clown

      Big dogs eating

      I like the look of Bradford out there. If his ankle is ok, I think it’s his position to lose back to Haynes

  151. Hawkster

    Tell me that wasn’t TEs plus a two-headed RB down the field for 6

  152. AlaskaHawk

    So the crack in block was done by Tyler Lockett to clear that edge for Walker to score a TD

  153. Sten

    Damn, was that drive only run plays? This line might be half decent

    • Romeo A57

      They were absolutely dominant and wore our the Panthers defense.

  154. geoff u

    😆 Dallas is totally gonna lose to the Cards

  155. Blitzy the Clown

    Mario Edwards Jr been knocking on Dalton’s door a few times today

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      He needs to kick it down.

  156. cha

    Have the announcers said Bobby Wagner’s name today?

    Even once?

    What about Quandre Diggs? Other than that blown TD play?

    • SEAhemoth82

      Rookies, along with newer players are leading from the Front throughout this game.

      You’re right Cha, Wagner, Diggs, Love, etc. are all on a Milk Carton this game.

      • cha

        This is just like last year. Rookies outplaying the vets.

        • SEAhemoth82

          Say no more.

        • SEAhemoth82

          The name plates on the backs of jerseys are unfortunately alleviating due criticism and questions about quality of play.

  157. Big Mike

    Again Wagz covering Theilen on 3rd

  158. ShowMeYourHawk

    Dalton just did what Geno won’t. Run.

  159. Pack of K9s

    Starting secondary needs to be
    TBD after next offseason for the other safety spot. Should have been Ryan Neal

    • geoff u

      Not investing in some quality safeties has really hurt this team

  160. Blitzy the Clown

    I’ll take what looks more and more like a win but to be clear, Carolina are self destructing here

  161. Pran

    Crowd is bailing out D big time

    • 805Hawk


  162. Sten

    This is like 2005 Giants levels of false starts

    • Palatypus

      I was at that game.

      • Sten

        I still have my towel from it too

        • Palatypus

          I thought the towels were from the NFC Championship game.

  163. Matt

    I don’t know if we are good or bad or average yet…but man are we a boring team to watch.

  164. ShowMeYourHawk

    The “Chardonnay and checking Instagram” set of season ticket holders must’ve not been able to make it to Lumen today. The crowd is awesome.

    • Palatypus

      Must be the Tik Tok crowd.

      • Palatypus

        White Claw and Tik Tok

    • geoff u

      It’s raining. They don’t do rain, yuckie

  165. Big Mike

    Could’ve put the game away
    Could’ve at least eaten up clock


  166. Blitzy the Clown

    Reed with a loving tribute to Mosesbread

  167. ShowMeYourHawk

    REED! The Big Sexy!

  168. Sea Mode

    With the Mike B tribute!

  169. AlaskaHawk

    Love me some Jarren Reed. To close out that Panthers Offense.

  170. AlaskaHawk

    Kenneth Walker had a really good day with 94 yards and 2 touchdowns.

    • Big Mike

      And 59 receiving

  171. Blitzy the Clown

    Would like Walker to cross 100 yards rushing for the books

    • 805Hawk

      Clearly the MVP today…along with the crowd.

  172. Blitzy the Clown

    Franklin Jr got CHARBONNETED!

  173. ShowMeYourHawk

    Charbonnet with a nasty finish, not seen since RedTube.

  174. HOUSE

    Geno made some good throws to the TEs on this drive and the RBs (both were fresh and ferocious) chewing up yards leading to that score. Great response!

    Other than that holding penalty on Witherspoon, he’s fiesty and scrappy. He brings energy!

    • Big Mike

      Wasn’t holding. Was shit officiating

  175. SEAhemoth82

    Like Gronk, Charbonnet pushed that DB out of the Club.

  176. Hawkster

    OK with some Charbonnet chiropractic for a highlight reel

  177. Blitzy the Clown


  178. Palatypus

    Bobo scored

    (lights cigarette)

  179. cha

    Great win for the Seahawks.

    Gutty. Stumbly. Bumbly. Gritty.

    • Sea Mode

      Ok, I’m happy for the win too. But why let Andy Dalton hang around for the whole first half until the CAR run defense absolutely imploded in the 2nd half?

      • cha

        The offense adjusted. Geno dialed in at halftime. They refocused on the RBs and TEs.

  180. Romeo A57

    BOBO with the icing on the victory!

    • Palatypus

      That’s not icing.

  181. HOUSE

    JAKE BOBO gets a TD before JSN and Charbonnet

  182. Blitzy the Clown


    Smith to Lockett with the improbable 2 point conversion

  183. Big Mike

    Is that Locks first catch today?

    • bmseattle

      i believe he had one early in the game

      • Big Mike

        Ok thanks

    • 805Hawk

      3 catches for 34 yards.

  184. bmseattle

    Man…this is one long-ass game

    • Big Mike

      Lots of penalties and incompletions

    • geoff u

      First ones in, last ones out.

  185. Big Mike

    Ha ha cowboys

  186. SEAhemoth82

    When life gives you lemons, be a Bobo.

  187. David

    Another outstanding pre-game write up, Cha! Thank you!

    My two cents post game…

    – The 12s came to play! They were difference makers today!

    – To all those who wrote Reed off at NT, well, apparently Reed is writing back. And I like what he’s saying! At least so far! Lol! Seriously, he looked like a pro bowl player today.

    – Love our depth at CB and OL!

    – It’s painful watching Bobby trying to cover WRs and RBs across the field. 110% love him. First ballet HoF dude for sure. But he ain’t getting that job done any more.

    – I am so interested to witness the return of Adams next week. Wanna see how he is deployed.

    – Ya, it’s still early, but I’m kinda feeling like I’d rather have kept Neal instead of “upgrading” to Love.

    – Bobo! Hell of a catch. Feels like we might be saying that a lot.

    – But it sure seemed like there were way too many dropped passes. One literally bounced off Lockett’s helmet. WTF?!?

    – Hope Jones is ok. We can’t afford to lose any more DL. Dang.

    – So far there’s been noticeable improvement in the run defense. Nice to see that, but we still need to find a way to dial up the pressure against quick little dink&dunk offenses. When we did get pressure, our D looked good.

    – Love our RBs! Really good thunder & lightning approach. K9 is really wanting it. Charbonnet was so brutal! What a day (10th anniversary celebration) for him to say, “my name is spelled Charbonnet but it’s pronounced Marshawn”! And DJ Dallas is really showing up in the return game. Although fielding that punt at the 5 wasn’t his smartest play even if it worked out.

    – Meyers redeemed!

    – Witherspoon leaves it ALL out there on EVERY play! That’s a kid who loves playing football. I think he’s gonna be a good one.

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