The Seahawks are set to pick eight time today. Here’s today’s open thread. I will be posting thoughts on each pick as they come in and, laptop screen permitting, will do a write-up on the draft overall on the plane later.
R4 (120) — Will Dissly (TE, Washington)
Mike Mayock calls him the best blocking tight end in the draft. I thought he was right up there with Dalton Schultz and Durham Smythe and as a consequence, mocked him to the Seahawks in a number of our seven rounders. He did everything they asked of him at Washington. Switched from D-line to be a blocker. No-nonsense and a coaches dream. This is yet another statement that the Seahawks want to run the ball as a point of focus. We felt running back and tight end would be a priority and they’ve addressed both positions in their first three picks.
Here’s Bob McGinn’s intel on Dissly:
A consensus choice as the best blocking tight end in the draft. “Somebody will take him late because he’s a blocking fool,” said one scout. “There’s no ‘Y’s’ (conventional tight ends) anymore. Everybody plays the spread.” Shifted from DE to TE late in the 2015 season. Adequate size (6-3 ½, 261), below-average speed (4.88) and 35 on the Wonderlic.
R5 (141) — Shaquem Griffin (LB, UCF)
Beautiful news. A fantastic story. You’ll be hard pressed to find a more impressive individual performance than Griffin’s in the Peach Bowl against Auburn. He will be a special teams demon, a heart and soul player and a situational pass rusher. This is the pick everyone wanted to see. I wrote about Griffin being an ideal fit for Seattle in this piece here.
And who could forget this?
Pete Carroll’s reaction to Shaquem Griffin’s 4.38 forty is priceless #Seahawks pic.twitter.com/Ivor3CBIm9
— Rob Staton (@robstaton) March 4, 2018
R5 (146) — Tre Flowers (CB, Oklahoma State)
At the combine we noted that Flowers looked like a Seahawks corner and like Shaquem Griffin and Will Dissly at times included him in our seven round mocks. He worked out at safety in Indianapolis but during drills just jumped off the screen as a long, lean Seahawks cornerback prospect. Seattle has already announced he’ll be used as corner. This is turning into a great day three so far. He has legit potential to be coached into a starter at corner.
R5 (156) — Michael Dickson (P, Texas)
Considered by many to be the best punter in the draft, Lance Zierlein projected him as a possible third or fourth rounder. Jon Ryan has been a great Seahawk but his performances regressed in 2017. This pick could provide a potential saving down the line. Here’s Bob McGinn’s sources on Dickson:
Three-year regular from Sydney, Australia. “He’s got a heck of a leg,” said one coach. “What’s concerning is he’s Australian and he doesn’t have your typical American punting style. He turns the ball a little sideways. He’s got a tremendous fast leg. You just worry a little bit about him being consistently good. He was fantastic for Texas last year (47.4), and you’ve always got to revert back to the film. He held this year, too.” Finished with a school-record average of 45.3. “He’s the Pineiro of the punters,” said another coach. “He has no idea what he’s doing. He probably has the most upside but also the lowest floor. He will take a ton of refinement but you may have a Pro Bowl punter for a long time.”
R5 (168) — Jamarco Jones (T, Ohio State)
He started at left tackle for a couple of years but his tape was pretty safe and average. There wasn’t too much to get excited about and that showed up at the combine. He only had a 24 inch vertical and he nearly topped five seconds in the shirt shuttle (4.99). That said, he has decent size and 35 1/8 inch arms. He might compete at right tackle or be the sixth O-liner and extra blocker. Bob McGinn’s sources see him purely as a guard:
Apprenticed behind Taylor Decker (Lions) in 2014-’15 before starting at LT in 2016-’17. “Has to be a guard,” said one scout. “Kind of a bad body guy. More of a guard athlete.” Longest arms (35 1/8) of the guards. “I thought he was a guard who could play right tackle in a pinch because he has played left tackle in an elite program and wasn’t terrible at it,” said a second scout. “He’d be an interesting guard because he is athletic. For teams that think he can play tackle, he may be a second-rounder. He’s not strong (18 reps on the bench) but he plays with a pretty good degree of toughness. Doesn’t fit the usual Ohio State offensive line profile but he is talented.” From Chicago (De La Salle).
R6 (186) — Jacob Martin (DE, Temple)
Under the old staff Temple produced some really tough, physical players. Martin is a classic example of that. The Seahawks named him a LEO and he’ll rush the edge. Lance Zierlein compared him to Haason Reddick physically in his NFL.com bio. He ran a 4.69 but only managed a 1.68 10-yard split at his pro-day. He also jumped a 34.5 inch vertical and had a 10-1 broad jump so he’s explosive if not particularly quick. He had a nice 6.90 three cone. They need a LEO.
R7 (220) — Alex McGough (QB, FIU)
The Seahawks finish their draft by taking a quarterback. It’s only the second time Seattle has drafted a QB in the Carroll era. McGough had a team visit and had some late buzz. He’ll compete to be the backup.
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Wonder if they’ll package a couple of those fifths into an extra fourth.
Either way this is perfect Saturday night tv viewing.
I was wondering that too. They did specifically say they wanted 10 picks though, so they either don’t move up or move up and later move down.
If we keep Earl and he walks next off season then maybe we get a R4 comp pick in 2020?
I’d still consider ET to New England just as a middle finger to everyone else who had the chance to trade for him. R4 looks so good this year I’d take their R4 #105 & a 2019 R2.
Just can’t imagine any comp pick with all the cap space we’ll have. Even if we extend a few guys, have to think there’d still be plenty of room to sign a few guys, likely negating an Earl comp
Exactly!
yeah, no real hope for comp pics with 80 mil +/- space next year.
but I can see them franchising him, it will be for less than he is asking
Question: To my knowledge we still own our natural 4th round pick, so why are we picking 20th in the round? Comp picks are tacked on after the round, and wouldn’t impact 4th round order, so what am I missing?
To further illustrate my question, it looks like Dallas still has their natural 4th, but is picking 16th in the round.
I think all the 9-7 teams rotate their order.
Interesting, I was never aware of this. Looks like our natural 2nd was 17th in the round, so makes sense.
I’d be so happy if we took Ian Thomas at 120.
+1
Well that hope was certainly short-lived.
I feel like we need to start a Go Fund Me to get Rob a new laptop
Someone already did. I personally went the route of up’ing my Patreon pledge.
For real? I’m really behind 😂😂
Where is it?
https://www.gofundme.com/sign-in?redirect=%2Fdashboard%2Fget-rob-staton-sdb-laptop%2F
that takes me to a sign in page …. is there a link to the specific go fund me page?
Just go to gofundme.com and search for “rob staton”.
I would love Holton Hill or Hercules Mata’afa with pick 120
somewhat interesting not a lot of talk about Hercules. I think teams cant see him on DL in next level — but heck of a player you’d think a good coaching team would be able to use him
I would love “One Bad Mata’afa” in the 5th. His get-off is insane. Doesn’t get enough love
Hercules in the 4th? Too rich for my blood considering he doesn’t have a natural position in the league. Too small for DT. Not special enough of an athlete for DE, and he certainly can’t play LB.
[Re-posting from the end of last thread.]
Here’s the link to the full comment on Seahawky CB’s, but I’ll just post the essential to take up less space here in the comments:
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/instant-reaction-seahawks-draft-rasheem-green#comment-382228
Quenton Meeks, Stanford
6010, 209, 31.75* arm, 76.25* wing, 4.54 40yd, 4.23 SS, 6.72 3C
This is the guy I really want to talk about. Why not replace one CB out of Stanford with another? He is 15-20 lbs heavier than the other guys on this list. He jumped 39″ in the vert and 10.67 broad. His SPARQ score puts him at 93.9% in the NFL, tied for 5th best in this CB class. Monster 10.25″ hands.
Tony Pauline’s scouting report says teams learned not even to test him much. PFF confirms this and adds that he allowed just 3.6 yards after the catch per reception allowed last season.
Physical and an aggressive tackler, on par with Holton Hill, but without the character question marks. Check this out:
Stanford Football: Quenton Meeks: Student of the Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ehCmnslTSM
Isaiah Oliver might have never really been a realistic target for them knowing the limited draft capital they have this year and their history of not taking DBs early. I wouldn’t be surprised if Holton Hill is actually the fallback plan if they miss out on their real target Quenton Meeks.
Watch out though, he has already been in touch with Richard Sherman getting tips for his college games, he idolizes Sherman, and the 49ers brought him in for an official 30 visit. Raiders had him in on a local visit. Rams met with him at his pro day. Raiders pick at 110, Rams at 111. Both have only taken linemen so far. None of those three teams has taken a CB yet.
I fear we might have filtered him off of our radar too quickly because of a quarter of an inch. I don’t think the Hawks will have though and I am now holding out hope he lasts to #120. (then we can find a way to get Shaquem after that, of course 🙂 )
He would be a great pick and I think he will go early round 4
Tbf the order the corners have been taken has been very surprising so far.
Still cant believe Oliver lasted all the way to the Falcons pick
I see him as a pass rushing specialist. I don’t consider round 4 too early for that.
Perhaps. I think at this point it’ll be interesting to see if Hurst continues to fall as well.
I would love for them to get
120- Shaquem Griffin
141- Josh Sweat
146- Holton Hill
156- Jamarco Jones
168- Durham Smythe
186- Poona Ford
220- Nick Bawden
226- Kyle Allen
So much for Thomas…
OK there goes our TE favorite Oh well still some left – especially blocking TEs Dissley in the 5th
Oh, sorry, did you mean to say “in the 4th”? 😉
I still would rather take Dissly later on.
There’s a parrot for TB that’ll be reading off their draft pick? What even is this league?
That is classic !
I love the parrot idea — the US curling team…. Super cool. Not as many fans this morning -at least its going faster 120 will et here sooner
I just get a feeling someone will snipe Griffen before 120.
That’s a low-key 🔥 move for Houston. Pair him with Fuller and Nuke?
My last minute day 3 mock before any of my guys get taken:
Trade 146 and 156 to NYJ for 109. They need more picks. We get ahead of OAK and LAR, both of whom met with our CB target.
R4 (109) — CB Quenton Meeks, Stanford
R4 (120) — LB Shaquem Griffen, UCF
R5 (141) — CB Nick Nelson, Wisconsin
R5 (168) — TE Chris Herndon, Miami
R6 (186) — DB Tony Brown, Alabama
R7 (220) — DT Poona Ford, Texas
R7 (226) — WR Keith Kirkwood, Temple
Lets. Go. Hawks!
JS needs to move up and get him then Unacceptable to miss this oppty in my humble opinion
Maybe NE take Luke?? – as much as I hate to see it Its a great fit for him
120. Shaquem Griffin (LB, Central Florida)
141.Tim Settle (DL, Virginia Tech)
146. Durham Smythe (TE, Notre Dame)
156. Quentin Meeks (CB, Stanford)
168. Hercules Mata’afa (LB, Washington State)
186. Leon Jacobs (LB, Wisconsin)
220. Cole Madison (OT, Washington St)
226. Dimitri Flowers (FB, Oklahoma)
I think I would love Tim Settle, but there’s no way he falls to us, is there…?
Seattle still has to get a speed rusher. Maybe Ade Aruna?
I would like to see a run on rb now.
I don’t love what Cleveland has done with all that draft capital. Mayfield and Ward at 1&4? Callaway in the 4th? No thanks.
Chubb and Corbett are nice. Nothing spectacular IMO.
Callaway isn’t going to make it in this league.
I think their draft has been a mess. They have two pro bowl G then take Corbet? Do they think he is an OT? They sign Hyde then draft his Clone in Chubb.
They could have had Darnold, Bradley Chubb then a CB like Oliver in Rd #2.
I would give them a C based on that.
Corbett could play tackle.
This is what I love about the draft – I absolutely love Cleveland’s draft. I think they drafted attitude and winners, which is what it is going to take to get them out of the pit.
I think they drafted 4 (eventual) high end starters with their first 4 picks. I think Ward is incredible, simply incredible. His movement skills are absurd and he is a really level-headed kid.
As speculated, this 4th round is loaded! Good lord
Denver might be having the best draft so far in my eyes.
Tampa and Giants too
It helps when the Browns keep picking before them.
Haha. This made me chuckle way more than it should but you ain’t wrong
Giants say hi
Like the speed but 120 cant get here fast enough. Seems this is where everyone is grabbing “their guy” that they may know from nearby school or someone they’ve been keeping in back pocket.
Settle & Hurst medical must be spooking folks but they have their own doctors…
Yeah, I’m thinking Hurst has to come off the board soon. He and Green could form a combo for years to come.
Noooo, my TE!
Your guy Herndon went earlier than people expected. Tough kid who is going to be a really good pro.
Are you talking about Herndon?
We made it past the redskins – thank goodness but 120 is still too far away watch for Luke to NE its gonna happen
Finally the Raiders make a good pick.
Agree 100% Nelson is a flat out baller. I liked him a ton.
I pray the Rams don’t end up getting Sweat then he ends up being healthy.
Clearly Cable didnt have anything to do with the that last Raider pick. We still have some good CBs out there
Meh pick, thank you Rams
Really ‘meh’. Thought he’d be an UDFA.
That’s what I like to hear! 🙂
Cincy got a stud
Yep Walton is a beast.
A bunch of TEs left, handful of speed rushers, some damn good DBs. Should be interesting too see what direction Seattle goes here. Could be another position altogether
Im channeling to hoodie — pick the COUG!
Before Brady it was a coug — Drew Bledsoe. Very symmetrical to go back to the Palouse for the next pats QB
Steal for Denver. Love, love, love their draft.
Maybe this should be re-considered as broncosdraftblog.com. Yikes.
oooo traded back — Lions besst not be jumping up for Griffin
Surprised the Hamilton lasted so long, surprised (and a little miffed) that Apke went so early.
Did Nyheim Hines go yet?
Yes.. sadly
Colts got him at the beginning of the day
How the hell did I miss that?!?
Colts
Wyatt Teller yalllll
I could totally see the Bucs taking Griffen. Their draft is too good as it is.
I could see it. I think the go LB or safety, those are their biggest needs. They don’t have a real starting FS or SS though, so that’s my guess.
Good call! I was afraid they we’re gonna homer since St. Petersburg is just a boatride across the bay.
Jerry will take a TE
Maybe Hurst? They like the red flag medical guys
5 more picks… assuming they don’t go off the rails with some obscure pick, they’ll have someone who was either rated much higher or Griffin.
Come on Shaquem the Dream. Alternatively, give me Tim Settle, or Quenton Meeks.
Of course Buc in Florida they know him JS go up and get him
Gil Brandt is the guy every member of NFL draft media wish they were
Great pick Dallas. I like their draft too
So mad they got Michael Gallup.
That’s an under the radar move that’ll pay huge dividends for them. He might be the toughest receiver I watched, and I didn’t watch them all of course, in this class.
He’s the best is what he is
God please let the bucs take someone other than our guy
Disappointed. I thought the parrot was making the pick.
JS on the phone
Wow I love the Bucs draft. They legitimately have filled so many holes while splashing on Vita Vea…
They came Thursday needing a starting RB, OG, CB, CB, FS, SS, OLB
Now they only need SS and OLB, and they added Vita Vea to compete with the Rams for the best Dline in the NFL.
And I’d say the Bucs are better.
They just became one of the most complete teams over 3 days.
Yeah, when you use one pick to get Vea and 2 second round picks…that’s just nuts.
Of course. Ozzie couldn’t resist could he?
Most disappointing parrot ever?
Yup
SEA’s pick is already in
Yeah! Love it.
Will Dissily
Had a feeling.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! Iron Will!!!!!
Will!!!!
Finally got our Zach Miller replacement. LOVE it. Not a reach.
STELLAR PICK! Best blocking tight end in the draft.
Probably the most consensus pick on this site. Maybe a bit early
Maybe, but Herndon and Thomas had already come off the board this round already and I suspect they feel there was a significant difference between Dissly and the next tier of guys like Schultz/Smythe/Izzo or they would have waited a round
OMG I cant believe we could have waited — what Im happy Love my Dawgs but c’mon man get our guy
Will Dissly in R4? Jesus…
very early
Could have gotten Holton Hill and Shaquem Griffin before Dissly but would much rather have gotten Schultz.
Dissly. Wow. They are definitely committing to the run in 2019.
Mayock says Dissly is best blocking TE by far.
This is exciting but I can’t stop thinking about that poor parrot going Home and seeing the look of disappointment on his children’s faces:(
Lol. Just not ready for the big stage yet. Parrot shoulda stayed in school another year.
Dissly is a stud. Has only played TE for two years and isn’t close to his potential yet.
i assume its because of his blocking right? like the pick but seattle still needs catching weapons
Didn’t allow one pressure in pass blocking
thanks low key like the dawgs but watch other late games. appreciate the take
D’oh. Much preferred Schultz or Smythe if they were going TE, but whatever. If we totally miss out of Griffen I’m going to boo Dissly whenever he’s on the field, lol.
Would have preferred Settle/Hurst/Griffin. Think Dissly could have been had in the 5th
Agreed, like the pick but to early. I was just waiting for Griffin to be called.
Miami just took Smythe. Still think so?
Getting those three would be huge. It’s conceivable we could have all 3 still. Go Hawks
Getting those three would be huge. It’s conceivable we could have all 3 still. Go Hawks I’m beyond excited!
Well there is our run blocking TE.
So to fix the run game
-New OC
-New OL coach
-Nasty Run block RG Fluker
-1st round RB Penny
-Best blocking TE in draft.
No one can say they have not tried.
Ed Dickson is a very solid run blocking too
Yeah I forgot to add Dickson. We are going to see old school pound the ball in the run game and deep passing this year I think.
Believe me, they’ll find a way to claim the Seahawks ignore the run game.
Seattle scouted the PAC 12/West coast schools this year with a fervor and this draft is showing why.
Rob nails another one. Nice. Bonus points – ex-Husky.
That’s why we took Dissly in the 4th. He was Miami’s guy.
Seems that way.
JS needs to meet up — Ive had way to much coffee and cant watch this if we dont get Griffin –
My sister and I were planning to get their numbers — its football / family and he is so about everything Pete stands for – trade up JS PLEASE
Don’t sleep on Will
As a pass catcher. He didn’t see the ball a lot, but soft hands and not a slug out there. Watch the 4th quarter of the Utah game. Carried people on his back to get inside the 5 when they were driving to tie the game. I can’t remember ever seeing him flat drop a ball. I love him. He’s a better blocker than Schultz and Smythe and he’s got better hands, most likely.
It’s an awesome pick. It’s not too early either when you look at the cluster of TEs that have been coming off the board this round.
Now lets see how we think should go in the 6th-7th rounds so we can better guess our picks in the fifth round.
I like the pick, he also catches well. I didn’t feel they the Huskies threw to him enough.
Good hands, but slow as molasses.
Feel bad for Hurst that heart condition must be serious. Really sucks go guys like him and Sweat who’s medicals just don’t meet the mustard.
Trevor, I feel ya on that one. Guys like Calloway will always get more of a chance than they deserve because they are healthy and talented. By all accounts, those other players are good kids who work hard and don’t deserve to have their careers derailed. I never even heard what happened with Settle.
I think we should trade up and get either Griffin, Settle, or Hurst.
Didn’t we just draft one of these JAG TEs in Vanett that offers zero in the pass game? We also signed Dickson who is another JAG that has shown competence in the passing game as well as being an excellent blockers by all accounts. How many TEs do they plan on having out there blocking? If only we would invest in some of the best blockers on the O Line….
Watch him play. He’s not Jimmy Graham, but he’s so much better than Vannett. He’s got soft hands and can make plays when given the chance. He doesn’t play above the rim, but he’s solid. The blocking alone is worth drafting. We have missed Zach Miller and he’s got that type of run game impact if not better.
Marcedes Lewis, Brent Celek, Julius Thomas, Mychal Rivera, Anthony Fasano, and others are available to come block for probably near the vet minimum. TE is also one of the longest developments because a guy has to learn how to block like a tackle and run routes like a WR. A guy we just spent a 3rd rounder on is coming into the window where he might start being productive, plus we have a really solid guy in Dickson that is likely to start all year. It just seems like a low value position as evidenced by the contracts handed out to blocking TEs, it takes forever to develop these guys, and we have 2 guys ahead of him that we have already invested in that I doubt he jumps for at least 2 years. Our roster isn’t one without holes, and blocking TE was already stacked on our roster.
Dissley is not a JAG tight end –and he can catch Is great. Also from Montana you may want to avoid that state for awhile
JUST – 19th Percentile SPARQ athlete
A – 25 (!) receptions over last 2 years for 336 total yards
GUY – “Great Blocker” – Mike Mayock
Why oh why do we always reach for our picks? Guys we could easily pick two rounds later.
They have the guys they want and then pick them based on their own board .
Nailed it. Seattle is the perfect example of why I don’t put a ton of stock into what or where the sources and scouts say and have a guy ranked. Seattle don’t put together a board based on draftscout, Pauline, NFL.com, CBS, etc.
It feels like they just want to make sure they get the player they want. I agree you could of probably got him later but Im guessing they just didnt want to leave the draft without him and didnt want to risk it.
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Why do people always think a pick is a reach when it isn’t the guy they wanted? You don’t know what their board looks like. Say what you will about their evaluation for players taken early, but they’ve done pretty damned well with guys taken in day 3.
I suspect they more about where players are going to be taken than we do.
The appeal to authority lost its edge a while ago in the mediocrity of recent drafts.
Agree and lots of TEs gone – they picked the one they wanted. Its really not fun to have our picks so spread out. I say we go back up — too many division teams btw now and our next pick
How could you possibly know that? Crystal ball?
You do realize that mock drafts don’t dictate how these nfl teams and their evaluators/decision makers see these guys. It’s only a reach if he turns out to suck and other guys drafted after him don’t suck. Time will tell. They had their pick of Shultz, Smythe, Wells and others and they picked Dissly.
You never know how other teams have a guy ranked. Just because mock drafts have a guy going later doesn’t mean he’d be available later. Hell, who thought Ito Smith was a fourth rounder? But that’s where the Falcons just took him.
It’s not so much that it’s a reach per se, just that we already have 2 superior players on the roster that do the exact same thing, and there are 5+ free agents that are already developed that could be had for the vet minimum to do the exact same thing. Which is ride the pine for at least the next 2 years and then we have him on a 4th rd rookie contract (yay!) which saves us ….. maybe 500k a year over a vet. Sooo….. good pick?
How is Quenton Meeks still on the board. What an I missing?
Was always a day 3 guy.
For his size teams didn’t like his strength of his ability to jam/press according to one of his own tweets.
Yeah, I have to agree on Meeks. Solid player, but I spectaculr and plus he was hurt a little bit last year and he seems to get dinged up more than usual. He’s a guy who makes the roster and possibly he’s into the top 3 corners on the roster some day.
Thanks Vol I was wondering what I was missing. Meeks and Hill just look like NFL CBs to me on tape.
Lots of really good players still on the board. Good for us. We have four picks in R5.
awesome pick! they are definitely commited to the run game this year.
Well. Asked rob yesterday who was the best run blocking tight end left on the board. I thought it was Shultz but I guess it’s Dussly. Stoked on the pick. No more having to pass on the 1 hard line hopefully.
Dissly is 265 and Schultz is 245. Guessing this might have gone into there thought process? That extra 20lbs will help blocking in the NFL.
Dissly is the best run blocking TE and it is not close. He is great not good blocking TE.
Plus Dissly’s arms are 2 inches longer.
Good point!
Also no T-rex arms with Dissly (both Smythe and Schultz under 32″ arms).
Great point there
Good Job Cameron you beat me…lol
Nice observation. Got to have those long arms to block.
in all honestly none of really know when a guy should be picked. the gm’s know way more than we do.
This.
There ya go
Thank you for saying it!
Well days 1&2 are usually pretty straightforward. Most teams agree on rounds 1-3
Sucks we don’t get any medical grades or real interviews or all22 footage
Lot of guys discussed here still available. 5th round could be gold. JS needs to get a quick review of Rob’s work over the last few months.
+1
I agree, they should be able to stock up in the 5th with the 4 picks.
This round has fallen perfectly for Seattle I think so far. Going to be a ton of talent in Rd 5.
C’mon Hawks Wyatt Teller at 141 then Shaq at 146!
Still have Leon Jacobs, some of those DT’s, Christian Campbell or whatever corner thy like. Tons of guys left.
Thing I like about the Dissly pick even more? It helps Rashaad Penny. You can move Dissly into the backfield now on occasion and certain looks.
True. Oh wow, Ito in the 4th…
Their backfield is crazy loaded. Whew!
I love that pick. We wanted a run blocking TE and we got the best in this draft by a wide margin. He is an under rated athlete in the pass game as well.
And very new to the position still as a passer.
Maybe we add St. Brown in the 5th?
Last year he had 21 catches for 289 yards, which was about 10% of the Washington pass offense, which is about 19th percentile as far as TE production as a percentage of overall team passing offense. He’s a 19th percentile SPARQ athlete. He is a great blocker.
What is to say that a superior athlete can’t develop that skillset? Dissly is going to need time to develop his blocking in the NFL as well, because TE has one of the steepest learning curves in the NFL, with players taking 3 years on average to produce. He has bottom 20th percentile athleticism, and hasn’t shown anything in the pass game (25 career catches in 16 games … 1.6 per game). If your argument for his development as a pass catcher is that he is new to the position, that is my argument as to why he will not fire in the NFL. He’s a bad athlete who has never produced at the college level.
Yeah really never was in love with the player and not too enthused with the pick.
I was targetting a lot of seam splitters
Experience at FB? Or just basing off his size/athleticism?
One thing I remember from the MRob/Beastmode Days was a NFL special where they talked about how in sync the two were. That MRob was Beadts eyes. Their footwork from the snap was identical… was really cool to watch
Just basing off his size, athleticism, and the fact Rashaad Penny was virtually unstoppable running behind a FB/Hback
Why would Atlanta take a RB Freeman or Coleman free agents soon or something?
If they don’t want to pay Coleman along with Freeman, possibly a replacement.
And Ito Smith is pretty good. An upgraded Jacquizz Rogers.
what are they doing this draft…..its not a failure per se but they have needs and ridley/ smith arent filling them
Getting antsy… just trade up… honestly, it feels like Jacobs will be there in round 5. I’m also thinking a second running back wouldn’t stink. We do need a few things, (wr options dwindling).
2nd is a high possibility. Rumor today was Seattle may be thinking of making Mike Davis a hybrid FB
* 2nd RB
Could be their Derek Coleman replacement. FB that can catch.
YES I love Coleman — Tough as heck and can catch too. I am thinking if he doesn’t get drafted he’s a great UDFA
udfas i think for wr. carrington, kirkwood…though i see him drafted w/ extra 6th…..
Carrington would be the ideal WR in ’round 8′ wouldn’t he?
You’d get one of your Utah guys as well. 😉
they are the bad news bears for me
Still want Sweat, Crosby, Hurst but man those medicals must look like the Chinese embassy.
i say stay away from all that. go ford, settle, okoronkwo
Okoronkwo still available?!?
I really like Crosby. Sloppy body and inconsistent but man when he’s on he’s on.
We’re getting great players, while filling needs! Rob you’ve been over the target the whole draft. Very happy with Will Dissly TE. We’re set up real good in round 5 with round 6 & 7 for desert. Glorious draft so far. Maybe we get that future All Pro Punter the Aussie.
Excellent pick. Dissly will make more of an impact overall than J. Graham did for us. Rashaad Penny is also excellent at running behind TE’s with patience. Stoked about this!
Wouldn’t surprise me if Dissly is used as an H-back
Was wondering that too. He has the mentality. A bit tall for that or no?
A little bit yes. They could always design a certain package for Dissly though.
I think we still end up getting Griffin in the 5th.
how does dissley compare to Zach miller speed wise?
Virtually identical 40 times. 4.87 Dissly vs 4.89 Miller.
Dissly ran a 4.87 Miller ran a 4.89
Zach Miller
40…4.89
20…4.42
3 cone…7.01
Will Dissly
40…4.87
20…4.40
3 cone…7.07
Almost Identical across the board.
if we cant run the ball next year it wont be through a lack of trying or resources.
That’s for sure when Pete says something is a focus he is not messing around they go all in trying to fix it. Love it!
Just think if we had someone found a way to pull Hernandez as welll… (sigh) Pocic has better be eating steaks 3 times a day and living in the weight room.
Sweat and Hurst must have failing medicals league wide. Sucks for those kids.
Yes it does, all the talent in the world. Worth a 5th rounder though I would imagine. I would take either one of those guys.
Sweat should be off of their boards. If he can only practice once a week, that’s a no-go for a rookie. That sounds degenerative. When I was at Central Washington University, before I transferred back home to UW, they had a power back named Dan Murphy. He was a best, and he got scouts at his games. He had really bad knees, though. The Cowboys signed him as an UDFA, and he was psyched. They learned that his knees wouldn’t allow him to practice. They wanted to make him into a fullback and he would have had a legit shot… but if you can’t practice, you can’t make the team. It also prohibits participation on special teams. If sweat is there in round 7, sure. I wouldn’t touch that situation if it’s not going to heal up.
Agreed. Big shame. If he can’t practice he may be udfa.
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I thought the 49ers got rid of Baalke?
Rob when we started this off season you said the Hawks primary focus would be to fix the run game. Well you nailed that because almost every offensive move they have made this offseason has been to do just that.
Carroll also said they wanted to get faster team-wide. SF is putting on a clinic in that regard with Pettis\Warner\Moore. Yikes.
Gotta compete with the Rams.
Settle, Griffin, St. Brown, and Hill in 5th?
12 million times YES
That would be absolutely incredible! Those guys alone would be a good draft class.
Meeks over Hill please! 🙂
If Meeks is their guy, he’s there in the 6th or 7th, I think.
Lewis now I am going to be so bummed when that doesn’t happen. Nice post
Sorry?
Kinda nervous about Rams’ back to back picks.
There goes Sweat.
Josh Sweat to the Eagles, good place for him to go
Great place. Their D-line is scary good. Bennett, Fletcher, Graham, Jernigan, and now Sweat?
Sweat is a major wild card though. Good chance he doesn’t amount to much.
not for us…
Medical and red flags starting to come off the board, it seems
Anyone else excited to see who we get as UDFA? I think PC/JS get back to making that a huge focus this year and will give the guys they bring in a legit shot.
Hell yes.
Me. I love UDF A aka Round 8 just as much as the rounds themselves.
Me too and they have gotten away from it the last two years. I think this year Pete and JS are going to be working the phone lines hard.
I think our late round picks and UDFAs have a much better chance of becoming starters with the roster more in flux now. Should be exciting to see who stands out and becomes a legit contributor.
Dissly has only played TE for 2 years and already this good at run blocking?!? Man that’s incredible.
I’d call that “coachable”!
I like Miami’s backfield. Ballage and Kenyon Drake is exciting as hell.
And Damien William’s. That’s a nice group.
Revenge of the College Back-ups?
Plus he started out on the DL at UW. He did play TE in high school, though. However, the competition in Montana wasn’t all that special.
Okoronkwo still out there as well.
I think he’s a lock to the Rams.
I agree
Sweat to the Eagles is a case of the rich getting richer. If he can stay healthy he is going to be really good. Their DL rotation is so deep they can red shirt him for a year so he gets right health wise.
been thinking this for a moment but why the low praise for seattles line. jones, reed, green, clark. thats pretty good.
like the eagles line but they are getting up in age adding bennet while seattle now is trending youthful.
forgot the rubble pile find of jordan as well
Perfect place for Sweat. Can’t practice? No worries, just line him up on Sunday as a sub package speed rusher and let him go.
I love the Dissly pick and I usually hate all huskies lol.
This is what we’ve been missing for 3-4 years, and I think it will have a large impact on our running game and pass-pro.
A Blocker who plays TE, not a TE who tries to block.
And he can learn from Dickson for a year.
WR run?
I like how JS, not our GM, the ‘draft guru’s is out requesting what random scouts from anonymous teams think of guys we’ve drafted as if their ranking holds more water than Seattle’s scouts. You know, the team actually making the picks.
* retweeting not requesting
Unbelievable really but typical.
The additions on offense this year all just seem like good people and true team guys. No big outspoken or Alpha dog characters. I wonder if that has to do with Russ
Fluker
Brown
Dickson
Penny
Dissly
good way to look at it. plus……pete wasnt joking at all about running the rock
re: udfas
the predraft visits this year were about two things. is you injury horrible and more important, come to seattle as an udfa and you have a shot at pmaying fir real.
The Rams better not take Griffin
Theyd be hated so much. That would be a low blow.
They desperately need linebackers
orokonkwo and Holland still there as well
Would love Ogbo Okoronkwo, I also don’t want to miss out on Shaq!
On man. Forgot about Marquis Haynes too
Which is why he might be a possibility. And we know how much of a premium they place on STs
He would be a good fit. They need a nickel pass rusher.
Trade to Carolina…
Why did they invite Shaq Griffin to the Green room. He was never going in Days 1 or 2.
Love the player and want him as a Hawk but having him in green room was not the right move.
They wanted to tap into ‘the story’.
They saw how everything went viral when he ran that forty. And didn’t want to miss out. Sad but likely true.
I get that but making the kid sit there for 4 rounds does not seem right.
I agree. I’m agreeing with you. Just noting why the NFL invited him. They want their ‘viral’ moment, rightly or wrongly. Social media is a pain in the ass.
Agreed. Low blow. They just want more viewers. Griffin is above all that nonsense though.
Yeah if you guys listen to him, he’s over the moon.
He wasn’t sure if he could even play football.
They gave him an xbox and he’s gonna get drafted
Agreed, and I think it is exploitative. He’s only there because he is missing a hand. But the kid doesn’t seem to mind, so good on him.
I just want him to go to Seattle. Be a special teams star and get 4-5 sacks next year as a situational pass rusher.
Agree
Apparently he has used the time to sign a few agreements with corporate sponsors. He might have an interesting angle in advertising products.
What are the Rams doing?
Ignoring the middle of the field. Be grateful.
Going boom or bust. This could all blow up in their face.
I’m loving it
in general….
4 picks to go… we have two picks within 5 of each other too. Need to pull a LB and a DL.
Crosby, Jamarco Jones, Teller
H. Hill, (Campbell, Meeks, Kelly)
EQ!
Hurst!
G. Avery, LEO
There goes Haynes. Good pick for Carolina.
Great pick by Carolina. Undersized but he can redshirt. Hall redshirted last year.
They are talking up Griffen on the NFL channel. Crap.
Griffin
Here comes Griffin. I bet with our next 2 picks. Come on JSPC! We need a guy like Griffin to start an awesome locker room attitude for our new defense.
I will be shocked if he is not our 1st pick in Rd5
Does Seattle maybe start addressing STs here soon?
Tony Brown and Shaq Griffin this round maybe. They would help for sure then Michael Dickson in Rd7
Green Bay is having a great draft.
They are.
Probably say off base, but I wonder if Seattle goes O-line with one of these picks here next to keep adding to the run game. Would love Griffin as well.
NFL guys really talking Griffin up. I think he goes soon. Hope to us.
Griffin would definitely help coverage teams. As for specialists, I don’t think they go this early. The punter position could be a 7th round situation.
Oakland just traded in front of seattle… *biting nails*
That sucks wonder who for? Clearly someone they think JS wants and Reggie knows him well.
Hurst
what a fall
Hurst?
Maybe, for once, no commercials during Seahawks pick, ’cause they know they don’t want to miss “the story” when Griffin is selected by Seattle?
Raiders suck, regardless of what they take here.
stallng for the tv moment fear raiders jumped us
Heart was pounding (no pun intended regarding the Hurst pick…)
I knew it was Hurst!
Good for Hurst. About damn time.
That’s a good pickup if he is healtny.
Raiders jump the Hawks to get Mo Hurst…
Griffin, then Settle
If he can stay healthy then absolute steal in Rd 5.
Yeah, wonder if we would have taken him.
Woooooooo
Hahaha he is a hawk!!!
Woooo!
Yeah! OMG! Best pick ever
YES!!! Shaquem
P.J. Hall and Mo Hurst are an explosive interior DT pair.
YES!!!!
Yes! Griffin brothers together again!
Yesssssss!!!!!!!
Shaquem the dream!!!
Nice!
Yeeeeeahh!!! Meant to be!!!
hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
lawyer milloy how fkiping amazing……..
Shaquem the Dream!
Everybody being drafted we’ve now passed on thrice.
HELL YES.
How bout dem Hawks!
YES!!!!!!
Now go O-line or CB
That is simply awesome!
i might be more stoked than wilson being drafted
CLOSE IT UP 2018 DRAFT IS A SUCCESS
Yessss!!!
And there it is. Ordering my Jersey now, Rob you want one, we’ll be twinsies
Time to start celebratory drinking!! This draft is already a RESOUNDING success imo!!!!
This is the most ‘Seahawky’ draft in quite awhile. Changing of the guard (culture) man.
+10000
Call it a day, lets go home cause that is for sure the weekend topped! Let’s go!!
Anybody notice the blog has hit on every one of our picks. Even Oenny we talked a lot about. Just got the range wrong.
Yes I’ve successfully landed three of our 4 draft picks, tons of research and film study plus this awesome blog. Great work and kudos to Rob and all the posters on here.
Thank you for saying that.
It shouldn’t be this guy got that pick or she called that one. All about the community. That’s we’re here for right?
Even the players on the bench gets a medal!!!
Yay!!
YESSSSSSS OMG SOOOOO HAPPY JS PC LOVE YOU GUYS
I DON’T KNOW IF I’VE EVER LOVED THIS TEAM MORE!! I’M SO PUMPED TO SEE THE TWINS ON THE FIELD THIS YEAR! I CAN’T STOP YELLING AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
So sweet!!!!! Treat yourself and watch the clip of the brothers getting the call from JC. Proud to be a Hawks fan right now.
+1
And the blog blows up! Whoop whoop…that’s the guy to change the attitude and character for our team, he is so special, awesome job. Go Hawks!
I WANT TIM SETTLE!
Ok yes. Still soooooo much talent.
I might cry tears of joy if we get Settle with the next pick!
Vol Teller is STILL there. We HAVE to take him
Agreed. That would be amazing.
Tim Settle would be a great pick at 146. His slide reminds me of Grady Jarrett sliding a few years back.
This team is going to be so much fun to follow this training camp! I think the energy is going to be off the chart with these young guys and revitalized Pete.
I am getting matching jersey with my sister. Love everything about them ! they will make everyone better
That’s great!
love how todd mcshay and espn are talking him up!!!!! and showing him w/ ints and picking up fumbles…..
ESPN is spending more time on this pick than any I’ve ever seen.
im into it.
Hell yeah!
Rightfully so.
He’s a guy you can trot out and say ‘this is what we’re all about and who we are.’ Gives a team an identity culture wise.
Pat Kirwan just said on Sirius he wouldn’t be surprised if they used Shaquem as a safety to replace Kam.
Would be a good spot. Also that deathbacker role as well like the Cardinals use with Deone Buchanon.
My favourite story of the Griffin brothers is Shaq telling all the college recruiters he was not going unless his brother got a scholarship to. That is loyalty.
Yes it is, it would be interesting to know what a bond like that feels like. Only twins in this world will ever know.
NFL Network is showing a feature on him now.
Tyrell Crosby next perhaps?
Him, Wyatt Teller, Skyler Phillips, or another O-lineman I’m hoping.
Where will Falk go?
Good question. You talking team or round?
(Wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t drafted. I think teams really like the small school guys this year)
Duke Ejiofor, Leon Jacobs, Tim Settle, a corner of your choice. Los of quality players left.
Equanimous St. Brown still out here too
Thats another good one.
I actually think that this is a great pace for St Brown. However, I really want Settle now.
Tre Flowers now
There’s our DB.
Haha! He looks like a Hawk. Look how long he is.
So Tre Flowers… cornerback conversion?
Without a doubt.
is he a safety or corner?
Hopefully a CB. He’s a project. Got a ton of potential.
this pick…..im here for tre flowers
Tre Flowers… another blog favorite. Ok Timmy, keep falling!
Andrew Brown still out there to.
Spending so much time on Griffin I am missing Seattle’s pick of Tre Flowers haha
Fantastic pick there. CB convert right?
ESPN gonna switch to full time Shaquem coverage for the rest of the year
Lol
Hawks will get hard knocks
Watching theminterviee the Griffin brothers I think I may cry.
It’s amazing isn’t it?
“Greatness is coming”
i have to walk away. im not choking up on a saturday morning…
“greatness is coming,”…..
MSGA
And now flowers too…… Did you see the interview Qheim seems a little pissed at everyone for passing on him He’s fired up =”greatness is coming” you’re gonna feel me” I know we have a great group pf young == always compete/win forever types…….
For as little draft capital as we started with… this has been a really low key solid draft for us. Not as flashy at the Bucs, Giants, etc. still, we are getting some football players!
How do you not love Pete / JS and Paul Allen as the leaders of the team we all love. They make some bad trades and draft picks etc but they always, always act with class, compassion in character. I appreciate that so much.
Griffin is another example. But even the little things. I remember a young rookie reporter last year asking Pete an incredibly stupid question about a coach who was not even with Seattle anymore . He could have killed him like most coaches but gave him a pass.
SG: “Greatness is coming”. Love it!!!
Tre Flowers…6’3″ 200 33.5 inch arms…4.45
He looks like he could be a corner ad a very long one at that.
He’s a head hunter.
excuse me 33 7/8 inch arms. that tall and almost 34 inch arms. Thats got CB written all over it.
Tre Flowers & Griffith OMG best draft ever and we still have 4 picks to go
We gotta remember, Duane Brown should be considered as part of this draft class too
Exactly can you imagine if we were still trying to find a LT in this draft class.
Tre Flowers another ideal developmental DB with the length the Hawks want. Nice pick!
OK St is slowly becoming one the schools Seattle likes to take talent from. As it should be. They have great, modern day athletes with speed
I never thought of that but yeah for sure and if I remember correctly you mentioned the Hawks scouting them quite a bit.
Shaquem was the only player I really wanted. This is so great, and a low-key solid draft so far, with still more picks to come.
Hmmmm… would have much preferred Meeks over Flowers, but full faith in Pete and John and their eval.
When they take a CB I just agree with the pick. Pete is the master at that position.
Is Tre Flowers a CB or Obi Melifonwu hedge? Lmao seems like he could play the Chancellor role
Why? I’m being serious about Meeks. What about his game has people really loving him so much? He’s just a solid player. When you get into these rounds you try to find raw, unfinished players with a high ceiling. Flowers has the size and athletic profile to be scheme diverse and positonally flexible. Meeks’s ceiling just doesn’t seem that high. He’s a solid player who maybe doesn’t have a shot at being a lot more in my eyes.
Trade up!
Boom. Nickel corner. Justin Coleman was the only true NCB on the roster. Gooood pick.
Wow great fifth round. So much fun!
A punter!!
Whoa!!! They took the punter early!!!
punter lol
Thought the punter would be later, but it is a need.
After the Griffin pick they knew we would forgive anything
Nice. Best P in the draft. Needed some STs help. They liked someone from Texas. Scouted them hard.
Best story was that at the combine the Seahawks had a staring contest with him
lol. What was that about anyways? Seems like he might be a big time personality.
anybody know anything about him?
he kicks football’s lol
From Austrailia is about it.
Pretty telling that he’s been the only P or K taken so far
Didn’t Rob have him being picked by us in the seventh?
I knew the Hawks were going to take Dickson. He is the best college punter in years.
SDB is nailing all the Hawks picks this year. No surprises we have not spent a lot of time on yet.
Right? Doesn’t seem like there has been a surprise pick yet.
Yup been saying it for months future All Pro Punter. If you look at Ryan’s contract it’s advantageous to cut or trade Ryan this summer. Hawks are loading up on future stars this draft, absolutely crushing it.
Have loved the draft apart front the last two picks. Trading up for a punter. Wtf?
He’s a REALLY good punter. Hey, could be worse. Back in 2012, the Jags took one in the second round. Could have had some short QB from Wisconsin. 😉
punters get drafted. jon ryan is older.
pc is a three phases of the game coach.
tre flowers is a safety with range but i think hes naxwells replacement
Trading up for the best punter in college football.
Well NFL network messed me up. We traded up for a punter? With all this talent on the board? Wow. I was thinking we might trade back.
Guess that means Jon Ryan is gone
Chips away at the cap number.
Yup. Likely a cap space move
competition at every position!
the punter was MVP of the Texas bowl. thats pretty crazy
except qb
So the Hawks should spend cap space or draft capital to compete their $25 million Super Bowl winning QB?
NFL bio sounding really good!
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/michael-dickson?id=32462018-0002-5601-21e4-a6d44e478ced
Twinning is Winning.
Now THAT’S the heart this team needs again. Well done Shaquem. Well done Hawks
Can you imagine the level of unspoken communication having twins on the same D?
Canucks with the Sedin twins. It is a real thing, they just know where the other guy is going to be.
Let’s hope the Griffins can get a similar vibe going for the hawks
Kind of a waste here based on draft resources, but Dickson is one of the better punter prospects you will ever see.
I don’t like the trade up, but I think this is a sneaky good pick. This guy supposed to be the best college punter in many years. Very underrated NFL position.
Also big cap savings?
What did they give up to move up?
Gave up a 7
Check out this link for our new punter.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/27/17291990/michael-dickson-punter-texas-draft
Wow, did you really need to trade up for the punter? I dont mind the pick but not sure that was necessary. Jon Ryans contract is way to high this year and now he is probably a goner. He probably will make it into camp but will get cut. That would save is $2-$2.6 million in space.
Flowers will be a CB for us as we all kind’ve thought. Just clearing it up.
He has unbelievable measurables for a corner. That height with those arms. If he could make that switch he could be a monster.
Seattle’s special teams should be greatly improved.
Penny – returner
Quem- ST’s ace
Dickson – upgrade at punter
Janikowski – hopefully he can be an upgrade.
Great point.
+1
Davis Hsu has also made a great point.
One of if not the best KR of the draft in Penny, best blocking TE, best STs coverage man, and the best P that OFF has ever graded.
Excellent value at a position of need. He can develop behind Jon Ryan for a year or 2 and then we’ll save almost 2m per year. Bravo.
There is no way he isn’t starting week 1. Ryan is gone.
Agreed. You don’t keep multiple punters
Even better. Save 2m this year with only 1.2m dead for a guy that should be able to put us over the top. I’ve been saying we need to fix the punt game if we want to get back on top of the NFC West.
No, they aren’t going to carry two punters.
Snap ^^
Think of the protection two punters could have back there with all our blocking TEs. Teams wouldn’t know which way we were going to kick or if there would be a trick play coming. How do you scheme against that?
Pete and John running absolute circles around this league.
Teams don’t carry two punters. Most likely, Jon is a salary cap casualty. He’s easily the best punter in team
History, (sorry Ric Tuten), and I will always appreciate his professionalism and his personality. That fake FG touchdown pass in the NFC title game was an all timer.
I figure we can carry 3 blocking TEs and 2 punters to dominate the run game AND the field position battle. Other teams are bolstering their OL and WR corps. We’re zigging while they’re zagging.
Anyone have know why Time Settle is still on the board? Medical, arrest, drugs, etc?
Not very good. Sometimes good burst, but bad body and too many plays on the ground
Flowers going to cb makes a lot more sense considering all the safeties they drafted last year.
Seattle has put such an emphasis on the run game this draft. Impressive.
Rashaad Penny, Duane Brown, Will Dissly, and now Michael Dickson at P. Let’s f***’n go!
Right, because you better have a good punter if you are committed to the run. (I kid.)
No, but I get it. Allows you to flip the field and shorten it which adds to the run game.
Thank god we got a punter. Ryan has been slipping for years. Special teams have been atrocious for the last couple of seasons, Griffin and Dickson are a start towards repairing that.
Gil Brandt had Dickson at #82.
Zierlein says:
“Dickson is the rare punter with good size, hands, touch, and power who is able to dig his team out of their own end zone and stick his opponents close to theirs. Over the last ten years, just one punter (Bryan Anger in 2012 to Jaguars) was taken inside the first three rounds but Dickson could be that guy this year.”
Just read the post about him. Great pick!
Remember when we have up like 11 punt return yards til like week 14?
Most amazing special teams feat of all time.
Have horrible memories of the long snapper picked by ruskell who couldn’t play because he had a bad back
This is a run game and ST draft so far. Two things that stunk last season.
In retrospect, punter is an important piece of he puzzle, field position just got improved with this guy.
Must have been a firm target for PC/JS. Saving cap too, when he beats out Ryan.
‘Saving cap room’
That’ll be huge come the summer. In case of an injury or a vet hits the waiver wire. It’s a smart, don’t miss the forest for the trees type of pick.
Tre Flowers was a solid sleeper pick and Dickson is a huge pick too, a real game changer, early but heck I’m loving this draft.
People will say we over drafted a Dissly and Dickson but we got
-Best blocking TE in draft
-Best college punter in needs
That is good value on Day #3
Best P PFF has ever graded if that means anything to ya.
HAHA! And teams still drafting the likes of Dane Cruikshank, Tyrell Crosby, Siran Neal, Genard Avery immediately after we take the top Punter that PFF has EVER graded. Don’t they know you can only carry 1 punter and you can never have enough blocking TEs? John continuing to show why the Seahawks are a perennial contender and are really taking full advantage of Russell Wilson in his prime! Gotta have a run game and flip the field in order for Russ to stay upright back there and have NFL caliber receivers to throw to!
Crosby off the board. I can’t beliebe that Obo and Duke are still there as well. I have to stop obsessing about Settle. They clearly aren’t prioritizing DT this draft.
So, I took a nap for the last hour. What did I miss? 😉
Hahaha
so far I think everyone of these picks is on the roster when the season starts. what do you guys think?
Be disappointing if they weren’t.
Absolutely. If not a legit backup role, they’ll make it for ST
Interesting the sort of guys they’re drafting. People might want to downplay the stuff about the defence not liking Wilson, but I think it’s telling who they shipped off and who they brought in. Back to the kumbaya
Did we just trade up to get a punter?
Not what I had in mind
I thought we have up 168 or q future pick to trade up, 220 or 226? No biggie, good move. Flowers is also a special teams monster
you can pick up a free agent DT like settle for about 3 mil a year every year so there isn’t much value there.
There is when you look at it like paying settle 4/4M instead of others ( who will impact comp picks) 4/12M
I think Settle has shown a knack for being more than a run plugger who simply eats blocks. He’s living in the backfield at times. He’s a monster and he takes up blocks too. Bobby Wagner would love playing behind him.
Special teams has really regressed the last few years. Losing Ricardo and seeing Jon decline a bit has cost us valuable field position. Hopefully this wr from the Eagles, Shaquem, and now Dickson can put us back into the elite category. I wonder if they take a flier in the 7th or UDFA on Carlson and have him sit behind Sebastian for a year. St Brown still there.
3 picks left yeah?
I kinda love this draft so far, even if it does mean saying goodbye to the Ginja Ninja.
Wasn’t super happy about WHERE they picked Penny initially, but after thinking about it I’ve come around on that. They’ve been in that situation before traded back, and lost out on really good players. With no second, I’d rather they pick him there then trade back too far and miss their top choices. If they had the 40th pick then wait, but if there’s no deal to get there your only choices are lick him or miss him. Hopefully being in THAT position on also (finally!) thought them a lesson about trading 1st/2nd round picks for expensive, disgruntled vets.
And I LOVE the Dissly/Griffin picks. Can not wait to see that guy take the field for the first time.
Love the punter.
Cowboys get Tavon Austin? That move has a lot of potential. Both ways.
Honestly I’m happy. For some reason Austin always killed us in games .
Rams traded Tavon Austin to DAL
Reggie Bush cmon man…. “Tyreek Hill was a 5th round pick, how does that happen?”… Are you kidding me?
didn’t hill beat his pregnant girlfriend?
Seriously, just unbelievable. Probably the biggest germ in the entire league. Ridiculous from Bush
I agree that a young defensive run stuffer would be nice but with so many holes to fill its probably a low priority when you can always find cheap veterans every year.
Very true. I’ll take a shot in the dark and say O-line or QB with this next pick.
Tulane DE Ade Aruna still out there too as a speed rusher.
I’d do backflips if we get Aruna
Ada Aruna +1 – Also adds to the “new” team culture.
QB-Who would be best for the Seahawks? I’d like Logan Woodside personally. Others=UDFA’s?
Personally? JT Barrett. Woodside makes sense too from the little I’ve seen of him.
Could also see Luke Falk as well.
Can’t find my notes on Woodside, IIRC, he’s on the list of NCAA QB’s with the highest yards per attempt, something over 10-yds.
Hmmm…
Found my notes on Woodside, can’t really trust my memory anymore, but, I wasn’t too far off base.
Woodside’s (2017 MAC – OPY), Toledo. He has had some great seasons, including 2016 when he was #1 in the NCAA with 45-TD’s.
Career: 759/1166/65.1%/10514-yds, 9.0-YPA, 93-TD’s, 25-INT, 162.9-Passer Rating.
Some interesting performance records worth consideration and IMO increases his draft value, his performance #’s stand out, even at his level of competition, I think some team is going to land a diamond in the ruff with this guy, But many will pass because he’s only 6′-1″, too short. (But, taller than RW, a bit).
-Career 9.0-YPA is #14 in NCAA, since 1956 (= Over the last 60+ years)
-Career 9.6 Adjusted Passing Yd. per attempt is #10 in NCAA, since 1956
-Career 162.9 Passer Rating in #12 in NCAA, since 1956,
-Career 8.1 Total Yds per Play is #12 in the NCAA, since 1956.
Pretty darn good #’s.
Deon Cain is still there?? That guy is a project, but he’s an explosive war with some size. Paul replacement perhaps?
We’re trying to re-establish the run game (multiple blocking TEs) and flip the field (top Punter prospect). No need to throw the football or pass protect when you are jamming it down their throats and flipping the field completely over on them.
I would applaud a Cain pick!
Andrew brown finally goes to Cincinnati.
Great pick for Cincy. Flat out steal at this point.
The scouting report for Dickson is pretty laughable. Weakness – he kicks the ball with odd form. Aka he doesn’t conform to my rigid thinking. For that, he has a low floor! Just laughable.
Ridiculous. An old boy league. Nothing wrong with a unique punting style.
Dickson’s specialty is a bent-legged kick where he doesn’t raise his leg all the way up like other punters. The casual-looking boot is something Dickson learned while playing Australian Rules Football for 10 years.
“The bent leg is like a regular thing in that sport. I just think Aussie Rules have this connection between our hand, foot and eyes because we pass the AFL ball around so much and do all different kinds of kicks like a curve or a low one,” Dickson said. “My technique still follows the same fundamentals of an American punter with hips and follow through on everything. But I feel I’ve just that little edge, that kinesthetic sense that I have that is an advantage to me.”
We’ve got a 5th, 6th, and 7th left right?
Wouldn’t mind a WR of some description, maybe some LB help. Is Settle still on the board? He’s fat, but you can work through that
Jaylen Samuels still out there too…
FB pick is inbound to be sure. You can feel it.
Reckon they draft one, or wait for the UDFA pool?
You can;t make these story lines up….. brothers player together in college… now play together in NFL. Hell of a pick in the 5th round.
Leon Jacobs
has luke faulk been drafted yet?
No, because he’s terrible.
You are so MEAN lol!
Nope
I tend to be high on most drafts from Seattle because I’m optimistic and a glass half full kinda guy, but something about this draft just feels…right?
Draft Grade = D (ESPN talking heads)
So that means, it was a homerun!
Lol! A D??? Really? We are getting good football players. I say that’s valuable.
+1
* excluding 2013
It feels great so far. Every one of these guys are special in some way. Coming together magically
Equanimeous St. Brown hasn’t been drafted yet right? Might be worth considering here
Sad we missed on Justin Watson. Colts took Fountain, a guy we looked at, but I’d LOVE EQ
Watson was underrated going into the draft but he started to rise up. One of the guys I wanted, on to the next one on my WR list…. WR-Cedrick Wilson (we need another Wilson & Wilson to Wilson sounds sexy.)
Settle isn’t fat. He’s Husky, maybe a little Hokie-Pokie.
Has UCLA produced an excellent OL prospect since Ogden?
How is Tim Settle still undrafted? He looked like the best interior pass rusher in the draft in my suspect opinion.
teams must not feel the way you do. or maybe its a medical we don’t know about.
I don’t know either. I didn’t even hear what his specific issue was, (injury, failed test?). I should look it up… the overriding theme seems to be conditioning with him. He could definitely be conditioned by a pro staff and be a beast.
im still into him. hes young. loves to play. his teammates in interviews love him.
great interior rusher don’t last this long unless there are red flags or medical. or they are not as good as you think at rushing the passer.
not true. see michael bennett. what was his medical or red flags
I love this approach of shooting for the best of our type at each position group instead of trading down and taking the leftovers. I think that’s part of what makes it feel so right, Vol.
– Their top RB (after Barkley)
– Best of the group of blocking TEs
– Best punter in the draft
Hopefully it continues.
Well said. Definetly plays a huge part in it.
if its a conditioning thing then is a motivational issue.
obviiusly you dont like settle.
carson came in out of conditioning shape…was that a lack of motivation
Kudos to whoever it was above who called Okoronkwo to the Rams earlier!
if that’s the case he’s not even on our board.
Last 3 picks in a perfect world for me
St.Brown
Settle
Jacobs
Ok, my new group of next pick potentials are as follows:
Beside settle…
Deon Cain
Equanimeous St Brown
Obo
Second back, (Scarborough, Wadley)
Jacobs
I would say a FB/RB type might be in order, than a true RB per sai. But i dig what you are saying
I’m ALWAYS down for a FB. It’s a shame that the position is going the way of the dodo bird.
Chris Warren maybe
Good name to keep tracking
side note, should the Hawks hire Peter Griffin as equipment manager and make it a trifecta? Might be a NE spy, so maybe not….
😂
Super pick by the Rams. First pick from them I’ve liked.
Poona Ford
St. Brown
Auden Tate
Leon Jacobs
Loved the pick, wanted him on our team.
Okoronkwo and Brown now gone
Rd5 steals
Hawks have to at least take a couple of guys SDB never discussed don’t they?
Any chance we double-dip with Piniero or Carlson in the 6th or 7th?
Damn, there goes Settle…
Nailed Dissly and Dickson in my Mock but had them both in Rd7.
I count that as a hit. Almost impossible to predict the round due to how varied the teams boards are ya know?
I feel like they are satisfied with their stable or DTs…but Poona Ford! POONA! would be so fun to cheer for.
I guess after getting Flowers we won’t target Devron Davis, but I’d like to see him in a ‘hawk uniform too.
There goes Settle. Washington is putting together a huge a** D-line.
They drafted Allen last year and Payne this year. Young big dudes.
Why is it…. I’m not mad about a punter drafted in the 5th!
Im not either, just not sure you needed to trade up to do it but what evs
He’s the best punter supposedly in years so maybe hey felt he would go before the 7th. I’m ok with it. Get who you really want and hopefully live with getting a really good player.
Don’t forget the 2M cap savings!
and hey, it wasn’t a 2nd round pick from a few years back another team took a swing on … for the kicker!
Because there aren’t any players that have any chance of starting at any other position. Only scraps like Cruikshank, Avery, Crosby, Andrew Brown, Okoronkwo, Settle and other still on board. Hawks are better served to flip the field with our renewed commitment to the run.
Nooooo! Washington goes semi-local with Settle. They wanted Vita and settled for Payne. Now they get this guy. Wow. And yes, Allen last year.
Won’t matter who’s on the field when we roll out the best punter that PFF has ever graded.
+1 back to being the bully right
Are there any OL that could be in play now? Not sure Seattle really needs to add any more at that position group….. most likely would barely make the roster and be a pure back-up in 2018.
Wyatt Teller, Skyler Phillips, a handful of others that escape.my mind, but your probably rignt. At least need to add some depth behind Fluker.
I say St.Brown, Kirkwood, Tate, Ateman or Valdes-Scantling
Forgot all about Tate. That would be so dope!
Even if they only use him in red zone he would be a TD machine.
He would. Ateman and that OK St thing lately may be likely.
Allen lazard or eq. St Brown next for me!
Jamerson goes to the saints. 4 picks to go until we select again. I want a WR now.
+1 EQ or Wyatt Teller
I’m completely shocked… the Browns take a WR with off the field issues in the draft
*sarcasm*
I actually think he was best WR in the draft though. For a 4th round pick for the Browns it’s worth a shot.
Yes he’s got a really good roll model up there he can smoke with, I mean learn from
Jamerson will be a starter for the Saints by the end of next year. Great pick!
Hopefully he doesn’t duck whenthe game is on the line. I kid, I kid… poor kid. Terrible way to end a season.
even worse was he was having a great season up to that play
wanted jamerson, bummer
There goes blog fave Samuels to Pittsburg.
Tremendous value.
Blog favorite?
Oh as FB. Saw TE and was confused
project receiver time!
of course, the **ducking Stealers take a FB/RB
So could be a CB, QB or WR
Slight lean towards FB/RB or OL prospect also at this stage
Holton Hill is still available at CB… hummmm
And now Teller is gone to the bills
Wyatt Teller just fits in Buffalo honestly.
Duke Ejiofor still available too
Is Equaminios St Brown still available?
Yes I really hope him or Tate are the pick here
Yes
Our special teams are going to go from a weakness to strength next year.
Flowers, Griffin , Penny all stud special teams guys.
Seabass and Dickson vs Walsh and Ryan
I like it. Pete getting back to the basics run game and great special teams.
Great point Trevor!
You nailed it Trev.
That’s exactly what Pete is doing.
Hoping for Jeff Holland or ejofor next
Would be foolish to think that Dickerson just comes in and wins starting Punter job. Look what happened with Aguayo, another “can’t miss” special teams prospect. Would like to see them add Johnny Townsend out of Florida to come in and compete, maybe in rd 6 or 7. That way you still get the $2M cap savings from cutting Ryan (only 1.2M dead), and you ensure that we average 50+ yards per punt to flip the field so we can play ball control and grind clock.
Would also like to see them add another blocker up front before the draft is done. Not to the O-Line per se, but maybe another blocking TE to come in and add to our 3-headed monster of Dickson, Dissly, Vannett. Could platoon these guys out there and move them all over the LOS in subpackages and really win in the trenches, blasting open huge lanes for Penny.
No it would be foolish to draft a punter in rd 5 you aren’t confident will win the job. If they want competition, it will be udfas, not other picks
“No it would be foolish to draft a punter in rd 5”
FTFY
Might be Rob’s guy at QB in Kyle Allen.
Rappaport seems to think so. He thinks they loved him in that visit in Arizona and have tried to keep a lid on it all.
Not yet, but he might be the 7th round pick
I think it could be QB…Allen?
I’m kinda hoping for poona ford.
We e up. Who is it?
If it’s Allen here I’ll be disappointed. He’s never been special despite his talent. Great in shorts, but doesn’t have that “it” factor when the pressure is on, and I’ve watched him since his senior year in high school. He was fortunate to have Mark Andrews as his big target in high school. He couldn’t get his team over the hump and has never done it at any level. Just roster space, unless something clicks late. I want deon Cain. Physical upside through the roof.
And of course we take Jamari Hones lol.
What you know about jones?
O-line baby!
And it’s Trev’s guy! I think?
I think he is really under rated and will be a developmental guy who
Competes for the swing OT spot.
Hawks clearly view Rees as a Guard so now they have Fant and Jones to compete as backup OT spots.
Jamarco Jones. Competition/depth pick to try and push someone else off roster.
Ifedi-who? please
Jamarco jones* honestly, light in the wallet but not super athletic. I don’t see it. First pick I wasn’t happy about.
May be a candidate to convert to TE to block? Can never have enough and I’ve heard he has soft hands.
Jones is raw, but a ton of natural ability.
TE convert. Only 25 less career catches than Dissly and a more proven blocker.
So a natural 6th OL player in jumbo packages
Yep
+1 they are drafting a starter. They have two already. He is a developemental guy to compete with Fant for who replaces Brown in a couple of years. I like the pick.
Talking heads on 950 KJR love the OT pick.
They should be. He’s a good one. Started over like 40 games for them as well.
Just read he was projected as a third or fourth rounder.
Nice pick
Glad we drafted Oline. I feel like late fifth is pretty good value for Jones. Seems like a right tackle to me, and we really needed someone to push Ifedi.
Would have rather gotten the WR. I feel like they will be gone the next time we pick. Oh well.
So two of Wilson’s top receivers walk (decisions which I agree with), but Seattle basically does nothing to replace them, not counting the blocking TEs as receiver replacements.
The big question is: Does Seattle really think what is already on the team is sufficient or is this a clear signal that Seattle is going to run 50% of the time this year?
Looks like a guard here? Seems to small to play tackle.
This is a steal IMO. Not very athletic a little underzied, but an excellent pass protecter.
If he’s smallish, but he’s not athletic, how exactly does that translate to the NFL? I guess I won’t stress over a 5th round pick. He’s depth.
Because his length and technique make up for it.
He has been working with our guy LeCharles Brantley too Vol.
He needs to get stronger but has great length and feet which are hard to find.
Ahh that’s awesome. Love it even more now. Had no idea he was a LeCharles Bentley guy. Thanks for the info.
Has 35.5 inch arms
6th rounder from Dallas to get WR Tavon Austin… hell of a value right there.
Jamarco Jones, I know nothing about him, can we get some feed back?
One of the better pass protectors I watched this year. Undersized but length makes up for it. Highly durable, only allowed 11 pressures, he could end up a starter for Seattle honestly. Just awesome value. Flat-out steal.
+1
Has a chance to be the Andrew Norwell of this draft.
Thanks Volume12, I read a ton of your posts so I trust your take on him plus happy we addressed one O-line pick.
Your welcome. Adds depth/back up worst case scenario.
1st percentile athlete, so only 99% of NFL O-Linemen are more athletic than him. I think only Tim Settle is less athletic than him on defensive side of the ball Source: https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/offensive-line/
35 1/8″ Arms at 6’4″, 299lbs, so undersized by might have the length to play tackle.
The one guy less athletic than him must be Orlando brown
Orlando Brown tested better than him at the combine.
PFF has him above Kolton Milleras the #3 LT in the class and plug-in-play ready at leazst in pass protection.
That’s pretty crazy. He tested awful at the combine.
Either will push Odhiambo off roster or will end up on PS, imo.
Jones is a questionable pick at best. Mixed reviews, including a poor showing at the combine. His tests were reject level by some.
https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks?pick=31
We’re so used to pursuing high athleticism picks with Cable, could be this is a Solari guy and he’s just looking for entirely different qualities as a priority.
You may have heard that Orlando Brown had the worst combine. That would be incorrect, as many forgot about Jones. Brown 4th Percentile athlete. Jones 1st percentile per 3Sigma.
Are you Tom Cable? All this Sokoli sigma nonsense hopefully left forever with Cable’s departure. We need ‘real’ football players. This draft is a great start.
I’m not saying that the best athletes will always become the best football players, but I’m saying that the worst athletes will never become the best football players.
Athleticism is important in athletics. It’s not everything, but not choosing guys who are literally the WORST athletes is a great start.
I also don’t hate the pick, as I agree that his tape is alright and the combine was a shock. Additionally, I think almost all of those players drafted at OL in the past 5 years are still in the league, including Sokoli, Glowinski, Sweezy, etc. Cable was the problem in his ability to coach, it would seem, not necessarily in advocating for those players.
NFL com had him a a 3rd or 4th rounder
What are the chances that our WR falls to us now…? Would they double up at blocking TE?
For real Jones: is he redshirting to play behind fluker in the future? Is he a 6th linemen in shortage situations? Is he anything next year?
I’m not against the pick just trying to see how he fits.
I see talk of him pushing ifedi? but if Seattle is going to run and bring in blocking te’s ifedi stays…I think
He is a developmental OT in a league where they are hard to find you need to take some fliers.
i saw ohio played him as a 6th linemen. hard to predict now but im just trying to gauge if he brings anything this year.
these picks make sense. Love the blocking TE. So many plays blew up because of poor TE blocking. Enough of that noise.
Run game improved already, regardless of RB.
Yea, get a decent full back and Penny + Dissly + FB look slike some real commitment.
Dmitri Flowers is Tre Flowers’ cousin. Played FB at Oklahoma… He’s my pick
+10000
He’s a reallll good receiver skillwise and from a hands standpoint
In a perfect world, Procise would be a pass catching FB.
We are so used to looking at elite testing TEF OL for the Hawks under Cable that people will hate the Jones pick because he did not test well.
He has good feet, great length and movement skills.
Needs to get stronger and gain weight but has the frame to do so. I love the pick and think he and Fant are great developmental OT prospects to compete for Duane Browns LT spot in 2 yrs.
Bingo.
The NFL just showed us they value O-lineman with great size but suspect skills over undersized O-lineman that are functional and ready right outta the gate.
OH St is a legit program. If you stick on the OL for 4 years…. you have to be very good or better.
We aren’t used to the Seahawks drafting offensive linemen that know how to play on the offensive line.
I was almost getting sick of athletes, starting to hope for football players. I know it sounds pretty cliche, but I just tuned out how people tested this year.
Walterfootball has Jones as their #10 T. Corbett was #9. Seems like a good get – anyone who starts for Ohio St. at LT for that long has done well in the NFL and we get him this late in the draft. I’ll take it!
Go Hawks!
I won’t even read Walter football anymore. I swear they just make stuff up and just pull naked from a hat.
Three punters now gone in 5th
Schneider has accurately predicted runs on running backs, tight ends…and freaking punters in this draft.
Amazing how he’s done that. Got ahead of the runs to get their guy
We had it backwards, that they would wait for the remnants of the runs on these guys because of how many fit their profile
Either predicted, or pulled the trigger.
The scouting report on Dickson is hilarious. ‘He might be the best punter we’ve seen in years but we’re not used to the way he kicks so who knows’
The most hindbound sport. So many teams would benefit from cleaning out the lifers.
These Australians right 😉 there’s that one guy that punts two footed. Left is for pooch kicks
AFL guys learn how to kick off both feet from the time they’re pretty young. Would be interesting to see if you could make it work in the NFL, could theoretically mess with some coverages.
Jones has awesome tape especially the Oklahoma game.
Going into the 6th.
Still on my radar
Lazard, St Brown, Kelly, Jacobs, falk, and that Dt from uconn
And martez carter
Please, oh please.
Whoa whoa whoa. Foley Fatukasi? A guy w/ size, length, production, and athleticism at a position of need? A team captain and inspirational leader by all accounts? A guy who is all football? Aren’t there any punters left?
+1 he’s an awesome talent
Everything I am reading on Jones is he has poor athletism but makes up for it with length and technique. Seems like this led to his success in pass protection but how will he fare as a run blocker in the NFL? Seems to go opposite of the run first selections thus far.
That’s completely far. I’m gonna guess they like his ability to move in space and can teach him how to take the proper angles.
* fair
NFL channel just spent time on him and liked the pick. Who knows.
I guess we shall see. It’s not like he was a poor player in college. I just Really wanted the WR there. We are starting to get down to the hail
Mary picks now.
Swing tackle for us. We needed one. Completes the OL depth chart for me.
He’s basically Orlando Brown without the size, but still has great arm length. His tape is very solid but not many guys who are that unathletic (bottom 1% athlete) make it in the NFL.
Surprisingly, athleticism is one of the most important parts of athletics.
Damn TB you should come round more often. Really nice to have your takes
/sincere
Ha, thanks. I spend most of my time lurking here and then passing Rob’s takes off as my own over on Reddit. Rob and some of you regulars here are very sharp regarding Hawks draft process, and I appreciate the insight. I recognize your username, and appreciate someone getting my salty humor. Needed to vent today, as we are all want to do when the Hawks are drafting.
Obv I wish all these guys the best, and think we got some good pieces in Penny, Griffin, Green, and Flowers. At least a couple of these other guys will contribute, even if they are at non-premium positions or are more long-shots than I think we needed to take.
I love your last line !
Griffin got the call…. in the bathroom
JK Scott was a kid I liked but his get-off isn’t super quick. He’s a really good punter, though.
I think we still have a few picks left…
Damn John Kelly to the Rams.. I was hoping we’d get him too..
Yup, he’s gonna be good.
Everyone bitches for years about taking athletes with no technique, now we take an awful athlete with good technique and everyone still bitches. We’ll see, I don’t think he’ll make it but worth a swing.
I was just gonna say this. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Had he tested better he’s a 3rd round pick.
As a bonus, we now get a little info into what Mike Solari may like or look for.
I think you’re overreacting by saying people are “bitching”. I like a lineman who run block as well as pass protect. I don’t see that as a skill in his toolbox, so it gives me pause. I’m
Wondering what the draw is if he’s not big and not super athletic. We know from reports that he can pass protect. Is he a pass protection, third down specialist? 😂
Not here per se, Seahawks Twitter/Internet in general.
Sounds like he’s going to be a swing tackle to me, a safe guy who can stop Wilson getting murdered if there’s an injury or if they want to load up and play 6 linemen on occasion.
It’s not like he’s an atrocious run blocker. Just that pass blocking is his strong suit and the trait that jumps out most at ya when watching him.
His movements skills will be well equipped for a scrambling QB and the run game.
Not trait, skill
He is a late 5th round pick. We are not asking him to be our starting LT next year. He is a good pass protector already with solid technique he will have a year or two in order to get bigger and stronger to help with his run blocking.
If he was a dominant run blocker already with good testing #s then he would have gone in Rd1
Did wadley get selected already? I may have missed it. Scarborough May fall to roundsevwn. Never thought that would be possible after last season. This past season was a head scratcher.
Scarbrough screams priority UDFA. Pete spends 7ths on those
No, still there
We need a WR, Ateman or Tate.
Wadley-Wadley-dropdropdrop? Ummmh, still on the clock.
Would like to see them pick up another pass rusher like Hercules Mata’afa or Ade Aruna.
Really want Mata’afa. Add to that “hair on fire / heart” quotient
But WR is probably the priority.
Mata’afa would be a great pick. He is special even if he doesn’t fit the mold.
I feel bad for Falk. Getting to the point where he might be better off not being drafted.
we need another interior pass rusher.
Those last 2 picks before NE’s were great. Kelly to the Rams sucks, but he’ll fit as a #2 behind Gurley. And Ejiofor is a perfect 3-4 end which Hosuton needed one more of.
PFF has Jones as #32 on their big board and #3 OT
Pass block effiency 98%.
He will need to get stronger but has length, movement skills and footwork that are hard to find. You do not need to be an explosive tester to be a good OT in the NFL ask Joe Thomas . Technique, length and footwork mean a lot.
I’m good with redshirting him and seeing what we have in a year or two.
I think that is 100% the plan
Hopefully, he becomes the steal of the draft.
They grade him above Kolton Miller, the guy who perhaps blew up the CLE trade. He could be a real steal. This guy, Dissly, Green, Penny … I’m starting to like this draft.
McShay said he doesn’t look good on tape but at the end of the game he’s graded out as not having missed a block.
Perhaps the tackle “tested” poorly … but might have had a private workout or some other testing that was very good. A good football player who loves the game type. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, since what they have done in the past has not worked and they changed their methods and coaches heading into 2018.
The have drafted a lot of folks that can outleap a velociraptor, out skate Brian Boitano, and so on; this time they go with somebody who can protect a QB, from a big school, who’s been doing it for a while.
So Jamarco is Pocic competition and probably Flukee replacement next year? Red shirt year and Fluker replacement next year? Idk anything about him
Don’t think so definitely an OT not a Guard. Swing OT and replacement for Brown. Perhaps even Ifedi if he does not improve this year.
Jones is the anti Ifedi. Good technique and solid pass blocker but not explosive like Ifedi.
Jones starts as an RT for Ohio St his first two years so can play both left and right sides. Sounds like the ideal backup swing OT to start with who can come in with an injury and not get Russ killed in pass pro.
I read it as a hedge on Fant and his recovery
That too for sure.
CBS Sorts is giving Seattle either a B or a D with their picks…. LOL
Jamarco Jones OT, Ohio St.
Height: 6-5 Weight: 310
With more strength, Jones can be a franchise LT. Handled duties on an island well in 2017. Long arms. Good size.
A- pick from CBP SPORTS
Would you rather have the least athletic OT prospect at the combine, the premier punting prospect, or the best pure blocking TE?
Good news boys, we got em all!
+100
All three have pretty good tape though.
I’m not unhappy.
Who should Seattle be drafting?
DT’s and DE’s with terrible medical history, big slow WR’s that cant box out and have no hops, or back up QB’s…
Hmm, I would lean more towards guys with some combination of size-adjusted athleticism and level-of-competition-adjusted production. I would also consider the age they began producing at the college level and how they could contribute to positions of need on our team. They wouldn’t need to have all of those things, but ideally guys on Day 3 have a lot of upside or a pretty clear path to production based on fit in your system, or guys that could be the next-man-up instead of paying guys w/ expiring contracts in the future and therefore represent a significant cost savings. Considering those things, guys I would have taken instead of a redundant pure blocking TE, or a punter might include:
DT Foley Fatukasi, DT John Franklin-Myers, DT Andrew Brown
EDGE Duke Ejiofor, EDGE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, EDGE Ade Aruna
WR Equanimeous St. Brown, WR Justin Watson
OL Wyatt Teller, OL Tyrell Crosby, OL Colby Gossett, OL Skyler Phillips
LB Micah Kiser, LB Genard Avery
S Dane Cruikshank, S Troy Apke
No injured DL, no big/slow WRS w/ no hops or physicality, and no QBs. What we’re looking to avoid are guys that could be replaced for veterans of comparable skill at the veteran minimum salary (blocking TE, punter, kicker, special teams aces, this year box safety seems to be that, etc) unless they offer significant upside. For instance, Johnny Hekker was an All Pro punter last year, and is making an average of $3M/year for the next 2 years on an extension he just signed .
We also generally want to avoid guys who are in the bottom 20% of athleticism or production. Freak athletes that never produced (Christine Michael comes to mind), or highly productive players who are bad athletes have a higher hill to climb when they make the jump to the NFL. That isn’t to say that they can’t succeed, just that it is less likely. We also generally want to avoid guys who didn’t produce until they were super old, or worse yet, guys who never produced, we want to avoid guys who were only average or worse producers at non-power 5 schools or in D2.
QB, WR, FB, DL. And probably 1 more LB.
Get 2 here and the other 2 as your priority UDFAs?
Sounds like a solid plan to me.
I think we have a good shot to land an FB as a udfa. There’s no competition on the roster
WHAAAAAAT
Micheal Dickson is the best punting prospect since Ray Guy
(multiple league sources)
That’s…some amazing praise.
He’s our Guy!
Would like WR here and Poona in 7th.
Kameron Kelly, Quenton Meeks, and Leon Jacobs still in play leading up to our 6th round pick.
Dickson was the guy Seattle asked to the do the staring contest at the combine.
That’ll never be lived down huh?
Probably flashed as a real competitor
ice in his veins?
I love this story….. shows there is much more than measurables in play
probably the final test to see if he can take over for jon ryan after an american ninja style obstacle course
Cain just went. st Brown?
picked a wr
nvmd I heard wrong
Griffin gonna play some WILL according to Pete. Makes sense. Let him roam around and make plays.
And get him free.
He can play 3 positions for me
Exactly.
Me too.
Could OKST WR MARCELL ATEMAN be the pick here?
Would be a good pick.
It feels like the time to graba WR.. couple prospects that are unique and could make the team.
Poona Ford
Leon Jacobs
Lots of tall Wr talent left too! FB will be addressed after the draft.
Yes. Like this pick alot. Had him in my mock.
Spill it!
A poor man’s Bruce Irvin. Lighter, great athlete, looks the part, project/upside pick.
Had 11 TFL and 8 sacks. They scouted Temple quite a bit this year.
I like that. I’ll have to watch him but sounds good so far!
Come on Vol give us the full scouting report he was one of your guys
6’2, 236 ran a 4.59 40, tons of production.
Who da f*** is Jake Martin?
An EDGE. Will likely compete or back up Mingo at SAM. Hybrid pass rusher, athletic, tons of upside.
The dude from Temple?
yes… 6’2 235 sixed guy
*scrambles to internet sites*
I want a WR. Kirkwood available?
Like this pick because I have never heard of this guy at all. Interesting to get a look at him and see what he’s about
This could be a 5th round draft with an impact. Shaq was a no-brainer. The guy is gonna be a star. Flowers looks like a LOB contributor. Jamarco Jones might just be the “vanilla” flavored O-lineman who becomes a sturdy and stable fixture in the future. The intriguing pick is the punter. They must have liked something about the guy because it was an off-the-wall pick.
Jones seems like dena vu from Pocic
I’ll have to scramble to find Jacob Martin film now lol. I have no real beef with this draft.
Don’t think Leon Jacob’s will be a seahawk anymore. We have 2 backup OLBs in Mingo and Griffin. We need a Mike.
Yo Slaw, A shame because I really wanted that got to be a Seahawk. He is a beast and has some very fun team to watch
Jake Martin NFL Profile
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-martin?id=32462018-0002-5610-92c9-e03db20960a3
Bit of a reach. Sounds like a Seahawk however.
Shoot! I wanted to see Simeon Thomas in the 7th or UDFA. Just went to the Browns. :-/
I’m legit worried about the recieving corps and the receiving TE corps next year.
Not sure that Jaron Brown and an untested Moore are really going to make up for prich, graham…..
Yeah, I was thinking about that a little bit ago. Makes me wonder if Seattle will pick another one up before the draft is over
They’ll find a guy in the 7th or UDFA. Says to me they have a ton of faith in Lockett as they rightfully should. Dude is always open.
plus an extra year to heal….im pretty intrigued by moore.
I’m with you there. They either think very highly of what they have or the passing game is going to be taking a back seat this year.
if you have a running game, your WRs will get open looks more often
I’ve heard that somewhere before.
By that logic, let’s just trade Baldwin and spend the money on the running game, because it doesn’t matter who the receivers are, right?
It’s strange, because I really think that fixing the running game will unleash Wilson, even if they go with what they already have in the WR room.
I just would have liked a little balance. They couldn’t throw us a bone with one receiving option? It’s pretty thin in there.
Probably some of both. We’re going to run a lot, and they like Moore, Darboh and Brown.
Dickson is a competent pass catcher.
As far as WR, we’re dedicating ourselves to the run and field position. No need to pass the ball when you have 3 blocking TEs and a field-flipping punter.
im not looking for competent. i want the people controlling the plumbing at century link to be competent. im looking for a pass catcher
/sarcasm about not needing pass catchers.
I thought WR was our #1 need coming into this draft, in addition to a competent running back. We got the RB, but didnt’ address the WR position. Dickson will be a good pass catching option, but I worry about our WR corps. We need a Courtland Sutton type to come in and complete our WR corps. Cam Meredith would have been another guy I would have liked that could have been had on the ultra-cheap. Not sure what Seattle’s aversion is to WRs, or why they insist on drafting pretty consistently bad WRs, see Darboh, Durham, etc.
They have 8 WR on roster. They’ll probably add another in UDFA.
Don’t forget McEvoy as a big RZ target, and Cyril Grayson as a speedster.
count me as uninspired by mcevoy. and just a littke concerned by wrs that havent done anything yet. always space to upgrade especially with a void of known talent
Here’s to hoping the improvement in the running game compensates for the dearth of top tier WR talent.
Simeon Thomas to the Browns, if they coach him up that’s gonna be nice with Denzel Ward
No WR or FB pick… shocking!
Does Hercules go undrafted?
Naugh, Rams have 4 picks soon
No not the Rams! That would be a great pick for them
950 talking heads have said they are intrigued by Seattle going back to their roots… grabbing 3/4 type players, but run a more 4/3 defense. Last time they went this way… 2012 or so
Lance Zerlien had Martin as one of his draft sleepers and Vol liked him. That is all I know about him as a prospect.
Jacob Martin DE, Temple
Height: 6-2 Weight: 240
High-energy player who simply needs to get bigger and stronger to hold up against NFL OLs.
CBS SPORTS GRADE : C-
This is the 3rd or 4th prospect Seattle brought in where high energy was mentioned.
Adequate athleticism (59th percentile), decent production (11.5 TFL, 8 Sacks), short arms (bottom 20% at EDGE).
Why not? Try him at SAM or LEO as others have said.
With Jeff Holland available, I think this is not a good pick.
Seattle got a potential speed rusher in Martin. Probably will play the OTTO role. Gives Mingo some comp and adds depth at SAM too.
Wore a single digit jersey # for Temple which is an honor. Frame is likely still filling out. Had a foot surgery and still produced with 11 TFL and 8 sacks. I’m guessing he caught their eye when they scouted Hassan Reddick last year.
Good call. I bet that’s when they noticed him.
He’s a sleeper who has the athleticism to make an impact.
The Griffin’s will be on nfl channel after the next commercial!!!
Such a beautiful thing
Bringing a tear to my eye.
Griffen bros coming up on NFL Network next if anyone isn’t tuned in any more (which would be understandable given there are more commercials than draft talk…)
Effen great sight to watch the Griffin bros on stage together.
Can’t wait for them to hook it up on the field!
I am watching it on my cell phone…. I swear, I’m NEVER watching GOOD MORNING football. Ever.
how many wr’s are going to asked to tryout?
i think two at least.
pick 7: fullback or someone no one knows…..
Possibly a QB too, although Austin Davis may be in line for the backup role again given his knowledge of Schottenheimer’s system.
But yes, if Khalid Hill (Michigan) is there I think they round out the ‘rebuild the run game’ draft with a FB. Penny ran under a power running scheme with a FB, and Schotty’s system is power running I believe.
Yay, we get to be media darlings for the year!
Back to being the underdogs!
Ravens draft, very solid imo
Ditto IND, CIN and NYG. Even DAL and WAS have had decent hauls
WAS has taken some high risk guys, with some off the field stuff.. Boom or Bust potential.
Them getting Deshon Elliot this late is just unfair.
Hope Seattle goes offense here. QB or WR. Grab a FB and 1 more defender as your priority UDFAs and then let the floodgates open!
Feel fired up now about 2018 season. Some exciting pieces are being brought in…..
Agree but I want another RB if they like any.
That could be a possibility too. Scarbrough and Darrell Williams are still out there right?
Wouldn’t be opposed to a flier on Scarborough. Wish they had taken John Kelly instead of Jamarco Jones (even though I like that pick anyway).
+1
What do you think of the draft overall? Miss ya around here my man!
You too my man. I was kinda stunned by Penney at 27 — not the player, just where they took him. But if you told me we’d walk away with Penney, Green, Dissley and Griffin, I’d have said that’s a solid draft. Add in Jones (good value) and Jake Martin (big upside), and I’m happy.
What do you think?
Forgot to mention Dickson and Flowers. Good solid prospects. We need a punter. Now we have the best one in this draft, if not the past several. And Flowers looks like a prototypical LOB corner.
RB-Trenton Cannon? speed kills, but is he a Rd-7 or UDFA? I believe the Seahawks looked at him(?)
Change of pace RB should be in the cards somewhere(?) Nall? Warren? Williams? There should be some good RB’s in UDFA pool.
Not a QB. If they do, “Team Wilson” goes rogue.
The pack of targets for Wilson is fascinating. I’m not really sure what it says, but it’s something
They might get the RBs more involved in the passing attack… screens and swing passes etc
Yeah, I’m thinking Prosise gets used more as an offensive weapon and less as a tailback.
Could be. Maybe they’re backing coaching in to get the most out of some of these guys? Or they’re thinking they’ll be able to scheme them open in the same way the Chargers are seemingly always able to
ditto with the Chiefs and Jamal Charles from a few years ago. Put the players in positions to shine.
it says baldwin will continue his steady climb to seattles best wr ever, unabated.
which is fine. vol, made a good point that lockett could be back to form
True! I’m a bit down on Lockett though. I know broken legs are nasty, but he’s flattened right out. Hasn’t progressed from his first season
i know. its true. he has flattened a bit
theres some interesting names on the roster it just seems to take a while for wilson to gel so i hope grayson, moore or someone else can because you still need to score points through the air.
Between Penney and Grayson, maybe Lockett doesn’t have to return kicks. Let him focus on honing his routes.
Remember the year we won SB everyone said Seattle WRs were “pedestrian”??? All it did was piss off ADB and Kearse We will be fine. Lockette & AGB solid, Grayson speed is intriguing, Darboh big target and my Dawg Dissley can catch I PROMISE huskies didnt throw to him enough cuz we had Pettis. We are gonna throw to the RBs a LOT. Last pick get a FB that can catch = 2018 draft is Magic!
Improving the run game is the best way to help Wilson. Getting a WR is sexier on paper but it’s not what gets us more W’s.
OK seeing all the Griffins on stage and letting him have his “cap on” moment – awesome > Plus goes to the 12s super cool. Too bad Penny wasnt invited to Jerry’s party but believe me they will know him soon enough in NFC! National media cant talk enough about the other RBs — East coast bias. That’s OK PC knows west coast football.
Why no one taking Luke ? Whats up BB/Pats?
Successful draft just to watch the moment here.
https://www.gofundme.com/get-rob-staton-sdb-laptop/
I’ve donated~
right on Kenny me too, now just need humble Rob to actually include it in his post then we will get him a new laptop 😀
Surprised he actually went with a Patreon
Martin looks like he’ll be more of a Chris Clemons type. Even better.
If he is a LEO prospect…. put a little weight on him… could really have an impact.
Is he the Richard Sherman of this draft? The guy everybody overlooked who ends up being a pro bowler?
He could be. Wouldnt shock me one bit.
Does Jacob Martin have a similarity to Wilson in his responses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hCg1yIXB8E
He’s not a robot, but seems to come from a good family which is a strong theme in this draft
The only robotic skills are shown here: (Shirtless Martin) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykRdZccqimA
Very positive and analytical.
Quality person. Gonna be good.
Those are great. Thanks for posting these.
Yeah, I’m with you on that Clemons comp. This draft, thus far, could field (7) starters within the next 2 years.
Man that clip was dusty. Tear jerker.
‘Be Humble’ maybe a new motto of theme?
Seattle has never gotten so much love!
2018 Motto for Seahawks
“Living A Dream” ~ Griffin
Luke Falk to Titans….. not bads
For the love of all things holy, please draft Mata’afa for me. Doesn’t look like it’s going to happen, but I’m throwing my hail mary out there
SDCoug, I want zero part of drafting the kid… uri got my Dawg, I want you to have your Coug as well! 😛 He’s an effort guy who has a knack for making plays in the backfield. We could do much worse.
Patriots player waiting to happen
Lol and I even admitted i love the Dissly pick haha. I will be a fan of mata’afa wherever he goes. Effort guy sells him short. I get that he’s a tweener, but he was the heart of that wazzu line. He gets into the backfield in a blink and still balled even being double-teamed a ton
And there goes Luke Falk…
Where to? I’m watching the Griffin show. Without tears of course.
Titans
BTW, I love this draft. They’ve checked off a ton of needs/wants and gone back to their identity. My favorite draft for them in quite some time.
Like you, it was a little shocking Penny went round 1 but that kid has ‘it.’
Seems like at least one other team thought so too if one really did try and trade for him (presumably Cleveland?).
I’m totally not shedding tears right now.
Arizona is super dusty this time of year… my eyes are just burning… don’t look at me…
lmao
How freaking amazing was that?
lol, and my contact lenses sometimes do this to me, you know…
Why not?
My father called me when we drafted Shaquem
WRs St Brown and Ateman STILL AVAILABLE!
Fingers crossed… 🙏
Family wearing we are 12 hats
Cannot say Seattle didn’t get air time in this draft!
Griffin…….A big story in this draft. Great things lie ahead for both Griffins. Thank you Lord.
I got the feeling from the Griffin family that Mom is the boss & tells those kids, jump, and they will ask how high? A really Great family that obviously raised their kids the right way.
CB Meeks STILL AVAILABLE!
Yes!
Smiling and crying all at the same time, so weird to see the Hawks get the much deserved air time on draft day instead of breaking to commercial on every one of our picks.
I’ve always been a proud Hawk fan, today is very special and one that I will always cherish, super proud of our Team.
This ride is going to be fun.
Go Hawks!
Some very good WR left
Lazard, St Brown, Wilson, tate, ateman, Cobb’s, wims
Falk went 199. Who else went 199 again? TB12?
L.o.L.
Much different question marks haha
The prophecy has been written Kenny
When I met Rob in Seattle we watched 10 seconds of a 2016 WSU game and where like “yeah thats a pick at the next level” at the exact same time.
His improvements are the most promising thing about him
They mentioned Seattle has 14 or so open spots on the 90 man roster right now.
Plenty of UDRFAs inbound.
There are plenty of exciting prospects left heading into the 7th round…. so plenty are going to make it to UDRFA and this should be wild for the next 4-5 hours. *fingers crossed*
Griffins on espn after the commercial break!
I’ll be kinda shocked if the next pick isn’t a QB, RB, FB, or WR.
Does anyone think SEA would have taken Nnadi at 76 if KCC hadn’t traded up to take him at 75?
Also, anyone think MIA would have taken Dissley at 123 if SEA didn’t at 120?
I think that.
Hopefully it’s Poona Ford if he’s still there next
Yeah, I think it might get Ford to come in as a FA compared to FB, WR
Might be tough to get Ford
On Miami, seems like a strong possibility
I think Miami or Dallas take Dissly in the 4th if we didn’t.
Miami drafted 2 TEs I think….. so they likely would have grabbed Dissly
That’s what I was thinking. They took the top Joker early. Seems like they wanted a Y in R4
Maybe. But Green is a good pick too.
I’m MUCH happier with Green. But I wonder if KCC thought SEA was targeting Nnadi.
+51 that makes sense
We said we were looking at Green and Hubbard at 79
IMO Green MUCH better prospect than Hubbard and more upside than Nnadi.
Nnadi a different type of player than Green. Sounds like Green needs a year to get stronger/bigger and perhaps Nnadi was more ready to contribute, but Green might make us forget McDowell in a couple years…
Full disclosure I hate the packers.
What the heck are they doing?
And no I don’t think any of this is good decisions after their first pick. Two corners. Three receivers. Wheres the rest of the team? You know what they are becoming mid career/twilight era the Saints before the saints recently remembered brees is old and they need a full roster.
I thought their draft has been pretty good. Nothing fantastic though. Their secondary is basically our O line in terms of poor production for all of the resources they have put into it over the past few years.
Picks 202-208 could all start some day, a solid strecth for late 6th.
Hate the packers to. They just picked St. Brown, WR. I was really hoping Hawks would get him. He is super athletic, fast, good character.
I dont mind their picks…..individually….. it’s just a strange way to build a team.
Huge run on WR sucks…
Moore/Darboh/Brown maybe better than any guys available now…
Who do you guys peg as having the worst draft? I’m going to Oakland. Ultra raw tackle prospects, and guys with major red flags like Arden Key and Maurice Hurst.
NYG, Tampa, and Denver have knocked it out of the park. Turns out when you are picking in the top 10 and make the safe picks, you are going to have one of the best classes of the year. Too many teams end up out thinking themselves.
Oh they gave up a 3rd for a player that is probably going to smoke himself out of the league soon.
So, the hawks will roll with Baldwin and Lockett as their only WR, the rest are FA nobodies. The hawks now will run run run- punt. That is why they addressed the RB and punter.
Guess we are already writing off last year’s draft class? Cool.
That Baldwin guy is just a “FA nobody” too.
the point is valid though. you lose a ton of production from seasoned vets and now you count on players that haven’t shown. color me cautious with my enthusiasm for the perennial “well the coaching staff really likes them.”
Richardson was no more of a seasoned vet than half the guys on the roster, because he couldn’t stay healthy
its either ge was a vet who oroduced or do you want to call it that he was a one year player with a single year of production that blew darboh , moore, grayson out of the water.
and the elephant in the room still being graham.
Could care less about Graham. Honestly I think we replace most of his production from the rb spot.
Re: Richardson, fair, but if you call it one year, no guarantee he can repeat, right? Don’t get me wrong, I thought they’d draft someone, but I don’t think the sky is falling.
I don’t think written off is quite how I’m thinking about it. I find it strange they didn’t bring in more bodies this year to compete with unproven commodities. It doesn’t fit their M.O. with regard to competition. It seems a clear devaluing of the pass game.
I mean they have 5 who are under 25 on the roster already. I’d think they will add a few more in UDFA’s as well.
Yeah and maybe they really like what they see. But I think the WR unit would now be considered among the weakest in the league.
I think they’ll bring in a ton of guys to look at between now and the middle of preseason. They did that in 2010, the last time Carrol and Co purged the roster. They had a record breaking number of transactions that year.
ive got my doubts but when seattle is their best its basically baldwin and who?
im trying to make it make sense to me. kearse, ricardo lockett, zach miller, it wasnt tge most formidable line up.
not counting harvin because he basically did nothing here
I’m guessing that one or two of the receivers who make the game-one roster are not on the roster today (counting the draftees).
Anybody they pick now will not be any better than Darboh, David Moore or Marcus Johnson. WRs take time for us and we already have 2 nice players in the farm. They must like them.
Exactly. It’s too late now. They must really like what they have, or they are not concerned with the hit to the passing game, expecting the run game to make up for it.
coleslaw. udfa baldwin was better then, than the names listed now.
may not be his fault but darboh showed nothing last year. once a seahawk i want players to succeed. but im not an “everyone needs time,” guy either.
Peter, I feel like they forced a lot of plays to Graham, limiting chances for some of the other guys. With him gone, if the running game is a bit better (which it ought to be with all the draft capital) my hope is that Russel has a bit more time to go through his progressions and guys like Darboh get more chances to show what they can do.
I haven’t given up on Darboh, yet.
Why didn’t the texans dip in the nice RB draft?
They already have Watson
I have been thinking more and more about the RB and WR groups… Prosise has got to move over
We have the WR who came from AZ and the one from Philly as well as our guys — I am fine with our group think a FB who can catch like Reese would be a nice add for last pick — Can OSU Nall catch??
nall was a te recruit
Nice call, She. I predicted a kicker, but you might be right.
Auden Tate, Javon Wims are both still there.
Kirkwood too.
Love Kirkwood.
any of the 3 would be a good get at this point
All of a sudden I’m a huge ESPN fan after this non stop Shaqueem coverage
Seahawks: 220
Haha, who’s got an idea to “stump the truck”, name some obscure draft-eligible player you don’t think NFL Network will have tape on.
Yes, apparently the draft is still going on in the background too… 😉
Azeem Victor to Oakland. Good pick and fit
And the other Udub LB goes next.
Denver is having one of my favorite drafts hands down
Aruna is gonna be a stud for Zimmer isn’t he?
Oakland is picking some character concerns this year. Gruden must be confident he can get through to them?
Yeah, I think hes always liked those types.
Man that would have been the perfect pick for us… we still have no MLB behind Bobby.
Victor as a mike? I don’t see it
He’s only 10 lbs lighter than BWagz
Thats an huge disparity inside
Not just about size. I had him pegged as an OLB (Sam in our system). Doesn’t seem like a fluid in space, sideline to sideline type of guy that we would need to fill in for Bobby.
Vikes pats then seahawks.
HAHA! NE takes Etling?!?
I think the hoodie is giving ownership and Brady the finger a little bit for making him trade his Golden boy Jimmy g
Pats just batted it out of the ballpark
A true Amendola successor in Berrios, and now Danny Etling.
Batted it out foul maybe.
Etling was horrible. Absolutely horrible QB in college.
Maybe they can work with him. And make him competent. But I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Here’s a prediction for the Hawks 7th rounder. They have their gunner, they got a punter, now (maybe) they’ll draft a kicker to come in and compete with Janikowski.
No
I meant, a QB.
There’s the QB. Just not who we were expecting.
Theres the QB! VMAC visit. Never checked him out though. WIll most definetly do so tonight.
Alex McGough?
He had some insane pocket escapes in his tape
A QB 6’3″ 215 lbs. That’s not Russell
Hes more than mobile. Ran for like 500 yards, killed his workouts, and I guess him and his family have been described as ‘class acts’
16-TD’s rushing for McGough, must mean he has the QB sneak down pat.
Well shoot guys alright then
Was JT Barrett already gone Seems like Hawks could have convinced him to come as a UDFA v use a pick on QB
Seattle now has to hit on 2 of 3 positions in UDFA. FB, WR, and either a LB or DT
Ed Shockley would be an excellent backup to bobby imo
He would. I caught a couple Oregon St. games this year and Hungalu looks like a Wilhoite type. Hed make a nice addition too.
Someone tell
Me
Who
We took.
Most I could find on him here. Description in the article sounds promising.
http://www.fox13news.com/sports/high-school-sports/tampas-alex-mcgough-ready-for-shot-at-the-nfl
I think the highest priority positions will be LB, FB(multiple), and CB. DT and WR also.
Tony Brown might go undrafted
Remember we have Jalston Fowler though, I doubt any UDFA FB will be better than him.
Tre Madden too
How many non p5 school guys are we gonna take this year
took 4
I completely forgot we have Jalston Fowler, that’s why we didn’t take a FB.
I definitely didn’t forget
UDFA
Dmitri Flowers
Khalid Hill
Ryan Nall
take your pick…
Being completely honest here. I was like, “who?”
This QB has the Russell Wilson reverse pivot, spin move down pat. Throwing motion isn’t perfect but he gets it out quickly. Let’s see how he does in camp.
After watching interview with the players we picked it sure seems like we are getting guys with A LOT less ego than the Earl, Sherm & Bennett types. Very happy about that.
Regarding QB Mcgough:
Last year stat line is the most predictive for QBs, and his seems pretty solid:
Age: 22.4
6’3, 214lbs
4 Year Starter at FIU
Comp %: 65.4%
AY/A: 7.8
40 yd Dash: 4.67 (85th Percentile)
Looks like a capable scrambler per box score. 100+ yards rushing and a couple TDs in his last few years. Completion % and AY/A both meet minimum that you like to see in an NFL caliber QB. Box score looks like Mike White.
Phil Simms thinks hes the most underrated QB in the draft and said he carries himself like a pro. Not sure if that’s a ringing endorsement or not coming from Simms
At least it’s not a guy like:
AY/A: 6.9 yards per attempt
Comp %: 56.3%
….
Ah damn…. yep…… yep that’s Josh Allen. Well at least it’s not that guy.
phil simms’ kid says that’s because its windy in wyoming. good thing its sunny and warm most of the games down in miami.
unlike all the other games in the east
Scarbrough has the chance to be dangerous behind that Dallas O-line
Any idea why he went so late? I know he’s not a pass-catcher but I didn’t think he’d go this late.
Soon it will be the undrafted free agents, pound them phones PC/JS, the draft isn’t over yet. Find some
gems in that big pile to complete an excellent draft.
We got one of my top players in Jamarco Jones very late. Love it. NDTScouting #4 OT