Live Blog: NFL Draft Rounds 2/3

April 28th, 2017 | Written by Rob Staton

I’ll be posting live analysis on Seattle’s picks. At some point Kenny and I will be doing a reaction podcast so stay tuned. Feel free to use this as an open thread too. I’ve been asked by several members to request you don’t tip picks.

Seattle’s remaining picks

Round 2 | No. 34 overall
Round 2 | No. 58 overall
Round 3 | No. 90 overall
Round 3 | No. 95 overall
Round 3 | No. 102 overall
Round 3 | No. 106 overall
Round 4 | No. 111 overall
Round 6 | No. 187 overall
Round 6 | No. 210 overall
Round 7 | No. 226 overall
Round 7 | No. 249 overall

For a full draft tracker, click here.

Round two

#34 TRADE with the Jacksonville Jaguars
The Seahawks moved down one spot to #35, acquiring a sixth round pick (#187). It’s unclear why Jacksonville felt obliged to make this move. They ended up selecting Cam Robinson (T, Alabama).

#35 Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
The Seahawks have been looking for an inside/out rusher for a long time. They decided to take the chance on McDowell. If he delivers on his potential he can be a monster, combining with Frank Clark to solidify the core of the D-line for the long term. Furthermore, there’s much more depth at cornerback than on the D-line. McDowell is an exciting talent but his personality and character question marks led to this fall in the first place. Seattle’s challenge is to get the best out of him consistently for 16 games. They did meet with him — so they clearly feel comfortable with his character and personality. The upside potential is huge.

There are things to work on. His pass rush repertoire is limited and he tends to play out of control at times. His gap discipline isn’t great and while he often breaks into the backfield, he struggled to register splash plays in certain games. His effort at the end of 2016 is well debated. The fact is — Pete Carroll backs his staff to get the best out of players. And McDowell has the kind of talent they love to get their hands on.

Jason La Canfora says the Seahawks would’ve taken McDowell in round one and had he not been available, they would’ve targeted Kevin King (taken by Green Bay at #33).

I didn’t think the Seahawks would take him because his personality, gap discipline and effort didn’t scream ‘Seattle’. That doesn’t mean I don’t like the pick now it’s happened. This team can coach. They’re taking a shot at greatness with this guy.

Here’s a detailed breakdown of his tape by Brett Kollmann:

#58 Ethan Pocic (OL, LSU)
The Seahawks don’t move up — and this one is a little bit surprising (to anyone who’s followed the blog anyway). Pocic wasn’t on our radar so we slipped up there. I’m not sure he was on anyone’s radar for Seattle in round two. With a number of big name players still on the board, this is an intriguing one. It’ll be good to get into some of his games over the next couple of days.

Firstly, it’ll be interesting to see where they decide to use Pocic. He played center to finish his career at LSU but he’s 6-6 and 310lbs. He’s not the longest O-liner (33 inch arms) or particularly explosive (2.81 TEF). Is he a hedge against Justin Britt being out of contract? Will he play guard or get a shot at tackle? He was reportedly well respected at LSU and praised for his leadership. This is one we missed on big time. It’ll be fun to get into his tape.

For the second year in a row Seattle goes OL-DL with their first two picks. And it’s another high pick on the O-line. Jason La Canfora says the Seahawks believe he can play all along the line including tackle.

#90 Shaq Griffin (CB, UCF)
The Seahawks met with him at the VMAC. He gave up some plays at UCF, there’s no getting away from that. However, he’s tough and physical. The Seahawks will like his attitude and he’s a better athlete than shows up on tape — running a fantastic 4.38 at the combine and a smooth 4.14 short shuttle. He could compete in the slot and at outside cornerback. One thing we learnt from this draft? The Seahawks truly are committed to the 32-inch arm benchmark.

#95 Delano Hill (S, Michigan)
Of all the Michigan players draft so far, Hill stood out on tape the least. He’s a good athlete and he has reasonable size. He also has the 32-inch arms and his wingspan is +77.5 inches too. He ran a 4.47 and had a nice 4.27 short shuttle. Hill could compete at the big nickel, special teams and safety. They needed some depth here.

#102 Nazair Jones (DT, North Carolina)
His 24.5 inch vertical was a little off-putting but he ran a 4.63 short shuttle at 6-5 and 305lbs which is pretty much in Seattle’s previous range. Jones has 35 inch arms and he’s tough. He’s not going to be much of a pass rusher but this is looking like a meat and potatoes type of draft class for Seattle. They likely see him as a younger, cheaper version of Tony McDaniel.

#106 Amara Darboh (WR, Michigan)
The two Michigan receivers were very similar in terms of value. Jehu Chesson was the big name a year ago but he didn’t have the breakout year everyone expected. Darboh instead wrestled away a lot of his targets and had a more consistent and productive season. He’ll likely push Jermaine Kearse and compete on special teams initially.

Overall thoughts on day two

This isn’t a sexy draft class filled with big names (or amazing athletes for that matter). This seems to be about toughness, attitude and physicality. Instead of reloading the LOB the Seahawks are seemingly trying to get bigger and more physical in certain areas, while creating cost-savings down the line. If Jones replaces McDaniel this year, Darboh could make Kearse expendable in a year and Pocic could even push Justin Britt into free agency if he asks for too much money.

This is a group that might not form a new core down the line but they’ll compete and contribute. In McDowell they have a potential star if he develops as intended. The rest of the class appears to be about solidity.

They’ll pick five more times tomorrow with picks in round four (x1), six (x2) and seven (x2). There are lots of big names still available including Dorian Johnson, Isaac Asiata, Samaje Perine, Chad Hansen, Bucky Hodges, Jake Butt, George Kittle, Carlos Watkins, Vince Biegel, Carl Lawson, Anthony Walker Jr and Desmond King.

1,790 Responses to “Live Blog: NFL Draft Rounds 2/3”

  1. King or Lamp please. I can accept certain other players but one of those would be nice. Oh and if King goes to GB and becomes a Packer? I’ll throw up.

  2. Misfit74 says:

    Obi, King
    Awuzie, Baker
    Godwin, Lamp, D. Rivers

    • Misfit74 says:

      For the record, we didn’t draft any of these 7. 🙁

      To make it worse, Rivers went to NE.

  3. Volume12 says:

    Here we go boys.

    Go Hawks!

  4. chet380 says:

    lamp, if available — otherwise trade down, but stay in the 30’s.

  5. Poko says:

    enjoy draft!
    Go hawks!

  6. GerryG says:

    No more trading down. We rolled the dice twice, and it paid off (one more pick to go). It’s time to get your guys. I want them to trade back up.

    • Volume12 says:

      That’s getting too damn cute if they do again.

    • Redhawk87 says:

      To be fair, say we trade down five spots to the Jets to get #39 and #107 so the Jets can get a QB. That’s a maximum of 4 teams that would have to pick up Obi, Lamp, and King in order for it to be a bad trade, assuming they’re all equally desired as a 1st pick this draft. That extra pick allows us more ammo to move up with #58 (or without).

  7. John_s says:

    So many good options Can’t wait!

  8. Blueshawk says:

    i have a gut feeling it is none of the above. But I don’t want to mention the name in deference to the peeps who want to wait for Santa to give them the present. It is a position no one has discussed to this point.

  9. Volume12 says:

    No TIPPING picks, please!

  10. John_s says:

    My worry is that the Pack pick king. But at least there’s other CB options

  11. Volume12 says:

    Who’s making the pick for Seattle? Big Walt? Who? Who?

  12. SheHawk says:

    Agree getting too cute with trading back again — Please get me some UW Dawgs tonight I will cry if GB takes King — he was born to be in LOB

  13. House says:

    Hurry up Roger…

  14. Nathan says:

    Anyone know the live war room link.

  15. Misfit74 says:

    Shock the world with Derek Rivers…. Man that’d be something. We can miss on Obi or King though. Maybe if he makes it to our 2nd 2nd

  16. Derron James says:

    Ima be sick if king is a packer and we have to face him

  17. nichansen01 says:

    The Seahawks pick Dominick Jackson OT, Florida State. Great pick.

  18. DLep says:

    buzz is the pack going King

  19. Dan says:

    Tier one: King, Obi

    Two: lamp quincy or awuzie

  20. Producehawk says:

    Pack or Sea or both may trade back a bit if yesterday was any indication of how desperate teams are for iffy QBs.

  21. Misfit74 says:

    Perhaps the last of the #SeahawksDraftClues! “More Than a Feeling” by @JoshWest4Music on @NBCTheVoice!

    YouTube ‎@

    Maybe it’s Josh Jones?

  22. Hawksince77 says:

    I think the first pick will be Tim Williams, but hoping for Budda Baker. Perhaps they can get them both!

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      I’m guessing Obi or King

      • Hawksince77 says:

        As discussed in the previous thread, it all depends on how PC/JS measure Obi’s football character. If they pick Obi, I will be thrilled, because that means he passed muster. But I won’t be surprised if they don’t, because I am not sure if Obi has demonstrated enough passion for the game.

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          Only they know for sure, but I wouldn’t mistake Obi’s calm demeanor as a lack of passion.

          • Hawksince77 says:

            I was referring to his play on the field. He just doesn’t strike me as a player who has fulfilled his physical potential.

      • Volume12 says:

        There’s so much talent left.

        I’ve always preferred the 2nd, 3rd, and UDFA ’rounds’ to the sexier 1st round picks.

  23. Volume12 says:

    The GB war room looks thrilled.

  24. Misfit74 says:

    Shefter reporting its a defender

  25. nichansen01 says:

    Please don’t be king please don’t be king please don’t be king

  26. nichansen01 says:

    This is really going to hurt…

  27. Volume12 says:

    The run on DBs is gonna start real soon. Maybe with this next pick from GB.

  28. Misfit74 says:

    I just know they’re gonna take King, which is totally fine if we take Obi.

  29. Rowlandice says:

    If GB makes the pick – I bet we trade back again! SOMEBODY is gonna want Cook or a QB

  30. nichansen01 says:

    I’m praying it’s not king

  31. Volume12 says:

    They better not go to commercial when Seattle’s pick is in. If so, no one spoi it.

    GB trades it?

  32. BobbyK says:

    Trade down a bit (not too far down) and get an extra pick in 2018.

    • TallyHawk says:

      Listen to the NFL network guys talk about GB getting trade calls couldn’t help but think it wouldn’t be a surprise to see another trade down. Although I feel at some point there will be a trade up too.

  33. Volume12 says:

    What is going on? Get on with it!

  34. Derron James says:

    Seattle may trade back

  35. Volume12 says:

    Seriously though. Does anyone know who’s announcing Seattle’s pick?

  36. Magmatizer says:


  37. Misfit74 says:

    King is off the board.

  38. Derron James says:


  39. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I hate twitter

  40. troy says:

    Packers took King FUCK!

  41. vrtkolman says:

    Ughhhhh that is so deflating. I don’t mind not getting King, but going to Green Bay is killer. He’s going to be a star.

  42. Volume12 says:

    Great pick GB.

  43. C-Dog says:

    King. Great pick up for the Pack.

  44. jujus says:


  45. Rowlandice says:

    Arggh. Hoping we could grab him.

  46. Kyle says:


  47. Grant G says:


  48. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I bet we go Obi

  49. Volume12 says:

    Seattle traded again!

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Haha too funny. Said it could happen. Pretty short trade down, but worth #187.

  50. nichansen01 says:


  51. BobbyK says:

    That kind of sucks. But we can’t get all of King, Baker, Obi, etc. But do need one.

  52. Derron James says:

    I think we go trade back lamp or Obi

  53. BobbyK says:

    Another trade. LOL. Hopefully for a pick next year.

  54. nichansen01 says:


  55. John_s says:

    Trade one spot down. Jax on the clock it looks like

  56. Ed says:

    Hawks trade with Jax

  57. Derron James says:

    They traded back

  58. Producehawk says:


  59. Hawk Eye says:

    King to GB
    too bad

  60. Volume12 says:

    We moved back one spot. For what though?

    Jags are taking Cam or Lamp huh?

  61. Rowdy says:

    Hawks blew it

  62. troy says:

    Anyone know what we got for the trade with JAX?

  63. SheHawk says:

    Im heart broken — we got a little too cute — should have grabbed him last night See what is up If its Cam the TV going off ( at least for a bit cuz I couldn’t really stop watching this and NOW we traded out again KILL ME NOW

  64. Misfit74 says:

    Seattle traded down 1 spot

  65. Magmatizer says:

    LOL we moved down a spot.

  66. Aaron says:

    Packers get King…dang it!!! Great pick for the. Good luck to him. Plus Hawks trading down again. Still great options at CB despite King going to GB.

  67. C-Dog says:


  68. jujus says:


  69. Nathan says:

    We;ve traded again.

  70. Misfit74 says:

    Guessing Jags go OL

  71. Grant G says:

    Man I wanted King. Wonder what we got in Trade value

  72. MarkinSeattle says:

    Damn, damn, damn……i get the impression that King was hoping to get selected by the Seahawks judging by his reaction.

  73. sdcoug says:

    We have too many dang huskies anyway

  74. TallyHawk says:

    Any chance we fleeced Jax like SF fleeced Chicago lol?

  75. Derron James says:

    I think we are gonna get lamp or Robinson depends on jax

  76. Volume12 says:

    Obi, Lamp, or Robinson for Jax?

  77. Nick says:

    Everyone who is freaking out: chill. We are going to get a haul.

    • MarkinSeattle says:

      Sure, but will they be Pro Bowlers?

      King has better talent than Sherman, he studied him and modeled his play on Sherman. He would have been perfect and a future all pro under PC barring injury. Maybe the guy we select will as well, but not nearly as much of a guarantee in my mind as selecting King. They made a mistake, big time.

  78. Derron James says:

    If not we are hoping on the OBI TRAIN CHOO CHOO

  79. Misfit74 says:

    Jags 6th

  80. BobbyK says:

    Could have used an extra pick in ’18.

  81. Poko says:


  82. Ehurd1021 says:

    Trading down again!

    Every year… the same shit.

  83. nichansen01 says:

    The hawks had to know Green Bay was into king. They’re not stupid.

  84. Ed says:

    Everyone said the same thing when Hendrix went to Philly and then Hawks took Wagner. That worked out. Trust in JS/PC. Still plenty of talent and the Hawks keep getting more ammo.

  85. Rowlandice says:

    Picked up another 6th? WHY?

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      I think they trade back up into R2, also into early R3. Could see them making 3 picks in the top 75.

  86. C-Dog says:

    Now 11 picks in this s draft, I smell a move up after the first pick. Go Hawks

  87. Volume12 says:

    Never thought King was their guy anyways.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      We’ve been down that road a few times. Always thought Obi was the better prospect but King filled a more immediate need…

      So if they take Obi, all good.

  88. BobbyK says:

    Don’t have to worry about taking Cam Robinson.

  89. Hawksince77 says:

    I don’t think they were ever going to draft a CB with their top pick. If that’s true, they were never going to draft King, because that’s what it would have taken.

  90. Derron James says:

    I want them to get Robinson so we can get lamp or Obi

  91. Misfit74 says:

    It was our plan all along to move down and still get Obi. Maybe Awuzie. Gotta be Obi.

  92. nichansen01 says:

    Well know we have two seconds four thirds 1 fourth two sixths two sevenths..

  93. Ed says:

    My bet is Lamp or Robinson to Jax. Hawks can still get Obi/McDowell/Hall/Tankersley/Lewis/Bowser etc….

  94. TCal says:

    These guys are toying with us!

  95. TallyHawk says:

    Really don’t want OL. DB or Dline

  96. Rowlandice says:

    I smell another trade down. Maybe all the way to the Saints at 42

  97. Sea Mode says:

    Let’s see if they trade up with Chicago and pick twice in a row!

  98. Derron James says:

    We are gonna pick 3 times this round I bet

  99. Grant G says:

    Now I’m rooting for Awuzie, maybe Obi, or Q Wilson

  100. Magmatizer says:

    Having Cam Robinson off the table narrows our scope a bit.

  101. Volume12 says:

    Great pick for the Jags. Love it.

  102. Derron James says:

    Didn’t want Robinson anyway

  103. Producehawk says:

    Robinson off.

  104. House says:

    Robinson off the board! YES!!!

  105. Misfit74 says:

    Cam, good pick for them. Powerful run blocker for Fournette.

  106. TCal says:

    Oh so glad we don’t have option of Carpenter 2.0

  107. troy says:

    Nice I’m happy Robinson is out, please get an impact player please please please

  108. Aaron says:

    Thank you Jax for taking Robinson so the Hawks don’t take him. Good luck with a guy that has a horrible kick step and is a RT at best.

  109. Derron James says:

    I’m calling forest lamp

  110. Dawgma says:

    Damn, damn, damn. At least there are still a bunch of good options…

  111. Derron James says:

    Of course when they come back SOB

  112. Producehawk says:

    Commercial crap!

  113. Redhawk87 says:

    Lamp or Obi?

  114. nichansen01 says:


  115. BobbyK says:

    If they do want an OL – maybe they were willing to pick up a pick for free since their grades for Robinson and Lamp were close.

  116. Nathan says:

    Is the war room link working for anyone else?

    I can only see ‘webcast about to start’

  117. Hawksince77 says:

    the pick is in, so no trade at 35

  118. John_s says:

    Espn shows the pick is in! An actual pick!

  119. Volume12 says:

    They ran to the podium man.

  120. Nathan says:

    No trade this time, we’ve picked.

  121. troy says:


  122. Misfit74 says:

    Seahawks live draft room is now open

  123. jujus says:


  124. Volume12 says:

    They did go to a ‘mercial. Ha!

  125. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    No spoiling please!

  126. DLep says:


  127. Dan says:

    This is it!!! they finally will pick someone!!… I hope…

  128. Misfit74 says:

    Schneider hugging people

  129. Joshua Smith says:

    What is up with the commercials. ESPN wonders why their viewship is down. Its the reason why NFL viewership is down too. College football is even more ridiculous: 4 1/2 hour games – 2 hours of which is commercials

  130. Rowdy says:

    This is crap

  131. Hawksince77 says:

    figures – commercials

  132. Derron James says:


  133. House says:

    With the 35th pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select…

  134. Ryan says:


  135. Hawksince77 says:

    the same commercial twice!

  136. Volume12 says:


  137. DLep says:


  138. Misfit74 says:

    Please be Obi

  139. SheHawk says:

    Well At least Cam is gone happy to get extra ammo to move up and get Budda or Sydney for now i am hoping its Obi

  140. Volume12 says:


  141. AndrewP says:


  142. Magmatizer says:

    Malik McDowell. I guess they must have done their homework on him.

  143. Volume12 says:

    Don’t hate it.

  144. GerryG says:


  145. Ed says:

    Pocket pusher

  146. Misfit74 says:

    Wow. McDowell. He is a stud 3tech when playing hard.

  147. jujus says:

    My guy Malik, this means they believed the injury narrative.

  148. brando says:

    kinda surprised by the pick

  149. nichansen01 says:



  150. C-Dog says:

    Malik McDowell children! I had a feeling they’d go DT early. Go Hawks!!

  151. Jusjamn says:


  152. DLep says:

    I like the pick, been one of the few on the blog that was amenable to this pick when he was being discussed.

  153. Forrest says:


    I mean…okay.

  154. Derron James says:

    We need to come back and get lamp even though I think the rams are getting him I think

  155. Volume12 says:

    If there’s anyone who can coach him up it’s PC.

    Told ya’ll they’d take a character concern or red flag guy.

  156. Producehawk says:

    Good pick at this point.

  157. Misfit74 says:

    Most talented DT in draft outside of Allen/Thomas and Malik might be a better pure 3tech.long time since we had one like this.

  158. Mistral says:

    Gifted Geneticallly? I watched Get Out last night, not today.

  159. vrtkolman says:

    Wow! This definitely is a Seahawky pick. Special blend of physical and athleticism. He must have impressed them when he visited. We got our interior pass rusher!

  160. chet380 says:

    Take a deep breath, people — there are 23 picks until our #58 — most of our faves will be taken, so resign yourselves to some disappointments.

  161. Ehurd1021 says:

    I like the pick. D-line is a bigger concern on this team than most people believe. Can’t play solid defense if you can’t stop the run and win the LOS.

  162. Del tre says:

    Wow… now i feel like we are trending down.

  163. nichansen01 says:



  164. Volume12 says:

    I’m actually coming around on him man.

    His 2016 tape was bad, go check the 2015 stuff. Top 15 potential.

    • Volume12 says:

      And I recommend the ND tape from this year.

      I think we got this years Chris Jones.

      • vrtkolman says:

        I made this comparison back when they had McDowell come in for a visit. His players comps are insane. Mario Williams.

  165. jujus says:

    The way that they were saying that no one was taking their guy I suspected it would be Malik.

  166. Misfit74 says:

    Depth at corner and safety, zero guys like this later. Playing the whole board.

  167. Grant G says:

    If you’re going to go boom or bust, I guess might as well grab 3 more picks in the process…

  168. EP says:

    Still got another 10 picks 😀

  169. Mike says:

    Cards traded up..

  170. Ishmael says:

    Well… Man. Great call by all of you who said they liked him.

    I’m absolutely not thrilled right now, but hopefully they can get him switched on and we’ve got ourselves an inside-out wrecker. He needs coaching in a big way, but he’s incredibly young and an absolute animal at his best. Swing for the fences right?

    • jujus says:

      Ceiling is non existent for him – have faith in PC. He could be the best defensivelinemen in this entire draft

  171. Sea Mode says:

    YUGE upside. They can still move up for Obi or Chidobe.

  172. Hawk Eye says:

    oh, not sure if I like it or not.
    Love the potential, but not sure he has the heart
    But I am willing to trust JS and PC that they can get the most out of him

  173. BayaHawk says:

    I predicted Malik to the Hawks in the SDB competition but at 26. Yay, me!

  174. Poko says:


  175. Rowlandice says:

    A bit underwhelmed – prove me wrong Malik!

  176. Derron James says:

    I am actually good with the pick the more I think about it, I expect a trade up soon to take lamp or Obi. They may also go after Quincy Wilson or Awuzie

  177. MarkinSeattle says:

    He could be great, or he could be mediocre. I wonder if they see him as a Bennett clone, or if they see him as a DT pass rusher.

  178. TallyHawk says:

    With what we have on the outside if McDowell can collapse the pocket this D will get back to being elite. Their inability to get any consistent push inside has held this D back more than anything the last couple seasons, besides injury, imo.

  179. Producehawk says:

    Trust the process. We must not have wanted to trade back with Arizona because of the gap.

  180. Aaron says:

    You were right Rob! An inside-out rusher for the first round. Huge upside but I HIGHLY question his motor.

  181. nichansen01 says:

    When you pick later in the draft, and you want a guy with a really high ceiling, he’s probably also going to have a pretty low floor. Just how it is. Love this pick. Endless potential.

    • vrtkolman says:

      From what I can remember, PC/JS first draft picks always go for the highest ceilings.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      That’s a pretty good way of putting. Not sure I love the pick. Depends on how the rest of the day goes. It’s not as much about McDowell as it is about other options.

      It’s a boom-or-bust pick for sure. If it pays off, we’ll have the best Dline in the League.

  182. Hawksince77 says:

    Wow, didn’t see that coming. This will be very interesting to watch. If he works out, it will be the homer inside pass rusher that might make Seattle’s d-line really scary. If not, not so much lost, given the cost.

  183. Ed says:

    Avril and Bennett are getting older. Dline of Reed/Clark/McDowell. Not bad. Deep in the secondary, Hawks can still come away with 2 of (Awuzie/Baker/Lewis/Tankersley/Douglas/Jones/Luani).

    Go Hawks

  184. Ishmael says:

    V12 called it early that they’d take cats who made us unhappy haha. They do their own thing man, if they’re happy with his mental makeup then who am I to say they’re wrong?

    • Volume12 says:

      Yup. The internet will hate this draft. Watch.

      • jujus says:

        i am the internet and i flipping love this. I have a stiffy that wont go away

      • Ishmael says:

        I’m trying to come around to it, I really am. Stephen White, who I really respect, only had good things to say about him over at SB Nation.

  185. Sea Mode says:

    They wouldn’t have taken him if the VMAC visit didn’t check out. Really like the pick. That’s how we get blue chip talent picking in R2.

  186. DLep says:

    Metric Analysis: Malik McDowell has a very strong data profile projecting to 3-4 defensive end. Above average market share production and near elite speed for his size. McDowell’s explosiveness score doesn’t meet the Pro Bowl threshold, but he has the same explosiveness score as the only outlier in Richard Seymour. In fact, Seymour and McDowell are almost identical athletes on paper. Thus, I’d project McDowell as a long-term starter to potential Pro Bowl caliber 3-4 defensive end.

    • Jusjamn says:

      If only we ran a 3-4.

      • Dlep says:

        He will be a michael Bennett type here

        • RWIII says:

          Love this pick. Michael Bennett will make sure that McDowell plays up to his full potential. Michael Bennett will kick McDowell ‘s butt if he doesn’t give 100 percent.

          Trust me: With Bennett hanging around, McDowell will be scared not to give 100%.

  187. nichansen01 says:

    Cards take Kizer or Webb here I think

  188. Misfit74 says:

    Malik McDowell | DT, Michigan State
    Height: 6-6 Weight: 296
    This is another really good pick early in the round. He has top-10 talent, but there are some effort questions. Right team here.
    Grade: A

  189. Ed says:

    Davis or Peterman?

  190. Trevor says:

    Mcdowell was one of the only players I really did not want after watching his tape this year his effort was embarrassing. I have no doubt about his talent but Pete must think he can somehow give this guy heart. I have my doubts and could not be more disappointed.

    • Volume12 says:

      Watch 2015 Trev. Its top 15 good. I wouldn’t lie to ya.

      • Trevor says:

        I will have to tonight Vol because I watched a ton of his tape this year after the VMAC visit.

        His tape vs Michigan almost made me want to throw up for his team mates having to play with a guy who gives up like that.

        • Nick says:

          Such great points from both sides. In the end, I trust our culture to shape him in a positive fashion. We, as fans, can honestly be huge to that—imagine playing in CenturyLink as a rookie who was on a shit team last year? It’s going to be a big change. Every single game as a Hawk his team is always going to be in it and he won’t have to be totally relied upon. He can just be him. Last year, from what I understand, he was really one of the few good players on that D. He won’t be that anymore. He’s going to be the runt in that DL room. Go hawks.

    • vrtkolman says:

      I get your reaction Trevor, but remember he did visit the VMAC. I imagine Seattle vetted his personality pretty thoroughly and had their sports psychologist on him. He is a possible All-Pro in the NFL.

      • jujus says:

        He was injured alot last yea taht he played through. Alot of people deemed this fake news but if it was legit and he played through it… Thats seahawky imo

      • Mexican Hawk says:

        Volume really does know his tape. In you I trust my friend. A bit shocked.

        But you can’t get that talent without some sort of baggage or negative attached to why he dropped. Hope this one turns into one of the success stories.

        If i remember correctly Mel Kiper had him as his possible # 1 player for this year post 2016 draft.

      • Seatown says:

        Terrible pick. Quitters are quitters. It’s in their DNA.

  191. Volume12 says:

    McDowell and Frank Clark? Yes sir!

    • John_s says:

      Both with crazy wingspans!

    • Aaron says:

      Clark was a questionable pick in 2015, I think McDowell is just as questionable this year. But imagine a motivated McDowell, Clark, Bennett, and Avril…OH BABY WHAT A FRONT FOUR!!! Just hope they get McDowell motivated.

  192. Derron James says:

    Budda baker not bad

  193. nichansen01 says:

    Great pick for Arizona.

  194. Magmatizer says:

    I’m so sad now…

  195. Ehurd1021 says:

    AND HE CAN RUSH THE PASSER FROM THE 1/3-tec on passing downs lol. Which I’ve been begging to see on Seattle D-line since 2013 lol. Stout run defender who can stop the run as well. Solid pick.

    • Rowdy says:

      I seen rb run past him at will on film

    • Jusjamn says:

      Not stout against the run.

      • Ehurd1021 says:

        Completely disagree. Even when double teamed – which happened to him all of 2016 because of the lack of talent around him – he was still a difference maker and disruptive.

      • hawkdawg says:

        Look at Rob’s clip on him above. The guy can anchor like a freaking battleship. His pad level for a guy 6’6″ is excellent. The inside plays in those clips look like they should be made by a 330 lb 6 foot NT.

        And no such NT could EVER make those outside plays, either.

        So, it’s up to the Hawks to light the fire. Because the kindling is all there.

  196. Ed says:

    Arizona is getting players the blog loved. Reddick and Baker.

  197. nichansen01 says:

    Budda Baker great pick for Arizona

  198. Poko says:

    we may not get King and Obi.
    I am shocked

  199. SheHawk says:

    OMG Card grabbed Budda — he is special been pounding table for him is honey badger v next and now he is with AZ I am totally bummed

  200. Aaron says:

    …Baker to the Cards…SMH!!!!! If y’all get Budda can we get the Honey Badger cuz they are the same kinda player.

  201. vrtkolman says:

    I thought Arizona should have taken Hooker, Baker is a nice consolation prize though.

  202. Rowlandice says:

    Need a miracle here. Need to get in front of CAROLINA and CINCI!

  203. Volume12 says:

    Damn. ‘Zona is loaded in the secondary! Wow.

  204. Ishmael says:

    Fantastic pick for Arizona. Peterson, Mathieu, and Budda all in the same secondary, that’s going to be incredible to watch.

  205. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Bummed. Really like Budda. Glad for him to go this high. Sad for us it’s to a division rival.

  206. Volume12 says:

    Your pass rushers better come with juice man. Seattle likes these bad a** characters to get after the passer.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      If they can light his fire and get him pissed off for greatness, then we’ll have the baddest DL in the NFL.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      Report says he needs to clean up his technique, but good value where he was taken imo

      And hey, you got Bennett and Avril to help him reach his ceiling

      • Ishmael says:

        He’s got one move at the moment. Tackles worked it out and he stopped being nearly as effective. He needs coaching in a big, big, way. If anyone can get it out of him it’s the Hawks…

  207. Nick says:

    Great point by Zach Whitman on Twitter: Jags didn’t need to jump ahead of Seattle to take Cam.

  208. nichansen01 says:

    Dang it. Bills snipe Zay Jones.

  209. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    There goes a fan fav on the blog.. WR

  210. EP says:

    Been a good draft from the bills so far I think. Got 2 good players from positions that were dire needs and also picked up a first rounder next year

  211. C-Dog says:

    Alright, they got a physical freak to rush inside, how ’bout they make a move up for Melifonwu?

  212. Volume12 says:

    Buffalo is having a very quietly, sneaky good draft. And they get 2 firsts next year.

  213. AndrewP says:

    I love Buddha… But is Deone/Buddha/Badger not a touch of the same thing? Can they really effectively get all three on the field at the same time without sacrificing other positions?

  214. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    NFL COMPARISON Ezekiel Ansah = Malik McDowell –

  215. Sea Mode says:

    War room feed goes off = shtuff gets real.

  216. Nathan says:

    Is it just me or is there a disproportionately large number of players in the draft with initials that are the same letter twice.

    Ryan Ramschyk, Malik McDowell, Keving King, Budda Baker

  217. Ehurd1021 says:

    Obi won’t make it all the way to pick 30.

    I guess they saw something we didn’t lol.

  218. Volume12 says:

    Someone go check on The guru. The guy who thinks Seattle’s scouts follow him and he can actually influence their picks.

    Is he alive still? HAHA!

  219. Rowdy says:

    Malik sounds like he has no interest in playing for seattle

  220. LeoSharp says:

    Love the Mcdowell pick. I think his effort issues were overplayed, he also dealt with numerous injuries last season which probably effected him more than people realize.

  221. Derron James says:

    Great pick by the chargers

  222. Misfit74 says:

    Sweet. Now I don’t have to worry about another slot/manufactured touches guy in Seattle. Good fit for Bills along with Watkins. They had no slot or #2 receiver.

  223. Volume12 says:

    I gotta say guys. I’m liking this pick more and more. He just fits our D’s personality.

    Remember fellas. Tape only gets u so far in this game.

  224. Misfit74 says:

    Chargers should pick Samuel, A FS not named OBI, or Lamp. Maybe Cunningham.

  225. SheHawk says:

    I agree with the comments that we are good with that type of player – Malek must have passed his interview and in person visit but seems like we had amazing players at UW in back yard and we’ve been overly critical of them Doubt we take Sydney or JoeJoe Mathis now its a bit of a pattern Maybe they will still grab a coug. But honestly I am really disappointed.

    OBI still out there though…… we got to get back up here and grab a DB asap

    • Volume12 says:

      JS said it. They’re too close to Udub. They over analyze them to a fault sometimes.

  226. Derron James says:

    Great pick

  227. vrtkolman says:

    Lamp and Zay Jones out of the picture for the Rams, which is good for us.

  228. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    The Superchargers now are lighting a Lamp for LA

  229. StoveEats says:

    Come on, move up for Awuzie or Obi!

    I’d be a big fan of another DLiner at 58 too.

  230. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Jets grab QB here? In the Second round?

  231. Mexican Hawk says:

    You never let go of a player you want, but with so much trading back they might have been able to slide even further.

    Nevertheless if that is the player they targeted more power to them. Just like Bears.

  232. Darth12er says:

    I keep waiting for the Hawks to move up…come on Obi

    • Misfit74 says:


    • Dave says:

      Me too! What the heck are we waiting for?!? I like the McDowell pick. He had nothing to play for last year. He is now on a perennial playoff team. He said the word compete in his press conference. It wasn’t the best interview, but his physical skills are off the chart. Watch 2015 tape when MSU games mattered.

  233. Volume12 says:

    Awful pick for the Jets. So overrated.

  234. Derron James says:

    Two safeties wow I like it!

  235. vrtkolman says:

    Wow, good pick Jets. Two safeties with their first two picks.

  236. drewdawg11 says:

    We can still trade up and get Obi or wilson. Awuzea.

  237. Misfit74 says:

    Wow, dual Safeties for the Jets. Pryor and Gilchrist rightfully to bench.

  238. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    *checks off DL box*

    Looking at other needs…. CB/S come to mind…. time to check another box off around pick #45 with a trade up

  239. C-Dog says:

    Jets get freaky with safeties back to back

  240. Sea Mode says:

    Wonder if the comments about self-scouting their own mistakes last year referred to Chris Jones. They passed on talent at a position of need. This time, they trust their staff to keep him motivated and don’t make the same mistake twice.

  241. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Bears will trade off of 45 with someone, they need more picks in the draft

  242. Nathan says:

    Drew‏Verified account @DrewMacFarlane 3m3 minutes ago
    Congrats to the Jets for drafting their 22nd safety in the last 3 drafts! #NFLDraft

  243. Misfit74 says:

    Maybe DL as usual for Panthers.

  244. Derron James says:

    Not liking the panthers pick too similar players

  245. EP says:

    Thinking Bears Eagles and Saints target defensive backs with their next picks

  246. Coleslaw says:

    So far we have to play against Solomon Thomas, Reuben Foster, Haason Reddick, Budda Baker twice a year

  247. Volume12 says:

    McDowell ain’t even 21 yet.

    Remember when I told u guys to follow or look at Gil Brandts twitter? Please do so now.

    We all wanted Calais Campbell right? Got him! Got himl

  248. troy says:

    Hey Rob can you compare Malik with Donald and see if they are similar at all athletically?

  249. LeoSharp says:

    Starting to think Obi slips into the mid 2nd after all the interest by the Bucs, Lions etc.
    Clearly wasn’t a 1st round player based on tape( loads to critique, less projection) and his athleticism hasn’t pushed him up draft boards as much as expected.

  250. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Perhaps the Jets will got to a base 4-2-5 defense… 3 safety set-up.

  251. vrtkolman says:

    Meh, Curtis Samuel?

  252. Magmatizer says:

    CAR takes 2 RBs early. I guess they want to run that triple option to perfection.

  253. Misfit74 says:

    Samuel and McCaffrey. Didn’t see that coming. Two RB/Slot receivers makes no sense.

    • C-Dog says:

      I actually dig it. Playmakers. They want to get creative

      • RealRhino2 says:

        Very good pick, IMO. Gives them a lot of options for an offense that has been pretty creative with its running game. The more they can let Cam get rid of the ball quickly, the better.

  254. Sea Mode says:

    Wow, McCaffrey + Samuel.

  255. Volume12 says:

    Great pick for Carolina.

    They needed a guy like him.

    They go get 2 OW swiss army knives to go with that wishbone esque offense. Dayum.

  256. C-Dog says:

    I gotta say, I really like what the Panthers are doing with McCaffery and Samuel. Holy moly.

  257. Derron James says:

    Great pick Vikings

  258. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Wasn’t McDowell playing out of position at 1T/NT last year ?

    That is what they are saying on local radio right now, but might fir better at 3T

  259. BobbyK says:

    This pick help ensures we never see Marsh on the field on 3rd and long. We’ve got good pass rush depth now. Avril, Bennett, McDowell, Clark, and Jefferson is a wild card up the gut. With good run stuffers like Reed and Rubin, and I really like our DL overall. I’m happy with it.

  260. nichansen01 says:

    What’s the deal with Jared Stranger?

  261. John_s says:

    LOB gets all the shine but the DLine is what made the defense special in ’13

    Still lots of DB prospects out there not as many DL’s

    Like the pick

    • RealRhino2 says:

      IMO, there were basically four interior pass rushers in this entire draft: S. Thomas, J. Allen, and M. McDowell. That’s it. Period. Everybody else was a “could offer a little bit of pass rush from the inside if he develops” kind of guy.

      So we got one of them. Premium skill, 2nd round.

  262. vrtkolman says:

    Vikings get their AP replacement.

  263. Coleslaw says:

    Latavius and Cook? Great pick to replace the best runner of all time

  264. Ed says:

    Saints going Bowser or Obi

  265. Misfit74 says:

    Fusue Vue:
    “My comparison for Zay Jones is a poor man’s Robert Woods”
    “The Bills replace Robert Woods with Robert Woods”

    Haha, my sentiments exactly.

  266. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    I’m not liking the Panthers draft so far… over drafting guys

    • Ed says:

      Agreed. Who cares if you get a few more weapons, CN has not time to throw and when he does, it’s wide right

      • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

        I thought the defense was more the problem than offense. They took a step back last year.

  267. SheHawk says:

    OK warming up to McDowell — when is JS gonna make his move back up??

  268. Volume12 says:

    Did me an jujus just become best friends? YUP!

  269. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Bears at 45 will trade with Seahawks : Bold Prediction

  270. Derron James says:

    Nice pick for the saints

  271. Volume12 says:


    Love that pick for the Saints.

  272. Derron James says:

    Joe mixon I bet

  273. Misfit74 says:

    Saints take another Safety I really like, but it wasn’t Obi.

    Eagles should take Mixon.

  274. Nathan says:

    The run on Safeties has begun, we need to go up and get Obi if we want him.

  275. Mike says:

    if Sherm gets will be right in here

  276. vrtkolman says:

    Why hasn’t Awuzie been drafted yet? It doesn’t make sense.

  277. Volume12 says:

    Philly going Kamara?

  278. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Chiefs at 59 might also be a trade up target for Seattle

  279. Derron James says:

    I bet Obi or awuzie is gonna go idk why

  280. Jusjamn says:

    I hope we stick at 58. I figure they still wouldn’t get Obi if they traded up.

  281. Volume12 says:

    I love what the Panthers are doing. Horizontal offense in a pistol offense? They’re gonna be dangerous. Samuel and Run CMC will allow Newton to get the balk out quickly.

    • vrtkolman says:

      Their defense is still great too. They always go good year/bad year. I could see them winning the South this year.

    • Ishmael says:

      I’d love to see those two in a wishbone. Even start running some pistol with Newton and McCaffrey. Going to be fun to watch.

  282. Derron James says:

    Sidney jones?

  283. jujus says:

    I still want a defensive end early… Lewis might last till 90…

  284. CharlieTheUnicorn says:



  285. Nathan says:

    Awesome crowd tonight.

  286. Volume12 says:

    Here comes Sidney Jones? Maybe?

  287. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Live feed Philli


  288. BobbyK says:

    Cunningham still available. Great “young LB depth.” If they like/love the DBs available, they could wait for the third and rebuild that defense at all levels. Remember, 7th oldest defense in the NFL last year. One of the youngest offenses. Will be again this year, too.

  289. Derron James says:

    We need a trade up cmon

  290. nichansen01 says:

    Sidney Jones it is

  291. troy says:

    Wow jones went way earlier than i thought

  292. Misfit74 says:

    Nice. Too small for us and yet another team’s CB need filled

  293. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    14 picks to go

  294. Nathan says:

    Looks like the bengals still get Mixon.

  295. John_s says:

    Seahawks need a cool fight song like the Eagles

  296. Producehawk says:

    Still three left on Rob’s first tear.

  297. Derron James says:

    I think rams go dan feeney or a DB

  298. vrtkolman says:

    Could you imagine if we land Carlos Watkins or Dalvin Tomlinson as well? This would be the best, deepest D line in football.

  299. Ishmael says:

    Can we put together a package to go up and get Obi?

    Happy for Jones that he went that early, was never in play for the Seahawks.

  300. jujus says:

    A run on pass rush is coming…

  301. Derron James says:

    If they take Obi it is war

  302. Producehawk says:

    Stinky Rams. My brothers fav team.

  303. Volume12 says:

    I like that pick for Philly.

  304. Derron James says:

    Okay I have to spoil this one the rams took Gerald Everett not sure why but they did…

  305. EP says:

    Two 3rds and a 6th to move up? Don’t know who with but still gives us 3 more picks today and plenty tomorrow

  306. Misfit74 says:

    Godwin, C. Henderson
    D. Rivers, Bowser, T. Williams
    Moton, Asiata, Siragusa
    B. Allen

    Some Seahawks fav remaining

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      Obi and Witherspoon are the biggies for me on this list

      Bowser also someone to keep tabs on

  307. sdcoug says:

    PLEASE DON’T TIP THE PICKS! spoiling it for others sucks big time

  308. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Rams doing Ram things

  309. vrtkolman says:

    Rams just blew it. What.

  310. nichansen01 says:

    Silly pick for the rams – Gerald Everett

  311. Derron James says:

    I can’t believe Obi and Awuzie is still here

  312. Volume12 says:

    Awful pick for LA. Eww.

    I like him, but 2nd round?

    • Ishmael says:

      Kinda like Devin Funchess right? Poor man’s David Njoku? Surely he could have been had in the third?

  313. Aaron says:


  314. Misfit74 says:

    Everett will never catch a pass against us. Tiny, Ken-doll hands.

  315. Ishmael says:

    Everett? Really? Like… I guess?

  316. Derron James says:

    No trade wow

  317. BobbyK says:

    Too many good players left to feel like we “have” to move up. Bowser, Cunningham, Awuzie, Obi, etc. Why give away a good pick when we could easily get one of those guys (regardless of a specific one).

  318. Derron James says:

    Damn bears

  319. Volume12 says:

    Guys. I’m missing 3 picks.

    Who was 39, 40, and 41?

  320. Derron James says:

    Colts makin moves man 😶

  321. Mike says:

    Rams must have been convinced Everett wasn’t going to be for them in the the took him in the 2nd..

  322. coach says:

    I’m saying Quincy Wilson or Witherspoon at cb at 58. Then Jordan Lewis slot cb at 90. I would like that – you get a lot better on defense! Long, fast corner to start outside, one of the best slot corners, and one of the best interior pass rushers in the draft – I like it!

    After that, go Asiata to compete for playing time and give depth at G.


    Go Hawks!!

  323. Derron James says:

    Ravens too

  324. Misfit74 says:

    Looks like one of my sleepers is gone

  325. nichansen01 says:

    Adam shaheen for chicago

    • RealRhino2 says:

      Afraid their first day wasn’t enough to make them a lock for worst 2017 draft, so….

  326. CharlieTheUnicorn says:


  327. Volume12 says:

    WTF!? These are the 2 TEs that go round 2?

  328. Misfit74 says:

    Shaheen. >> Everett “Ken doll hands”

  329. Nathan says:

    Geez they’re falling well behind with this tv stuff now.

    Bengals on clock, won’t give awya who’s gone, but one out watch list went to the ravens.

  330. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Bears have officially.. shit the bed this draft

  331. Mike says:

    6’6″ 278 TE..jeezus

  332. LeoSharp says:

    Love Shaheen he has Gronk potential. Awesome blocker and natural hands.

  333. Derron James says:

    Bengals doing great too

  334. Trevor says:

    Still lots of great options at 58

    Daeshon Hall
    Tyus Bowser
    Akhello Witerspoon

  335. nichansen01 says:


  336. Producehawk says:

    This round is taking longer than yesterday.

  337. Volume12 says:

    Great pick by Indy.

    Hooker and Q? They rebuilt that secondary.

  338. troy says:

    I know their is options still on but dissapointed that they have not traded up, they have 4 3rd round picks and the players at the 4th are NOT gonna be the same quality as the top 50…please JS

  339. Misfit74 says:

    Quincy to Colts. Him and Hooker. Good for them

  340. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Colts filling needs…… might make playoffs if they keep this up.

  341. nate dogg says:

    i really like the pick. He said he’s motivated about the questions of his motor. He’ll crush in SEA. I’m calling 7 sacks for the guy. We’re good on the DL for years. Nice mix of young and old. Our DB is only as good as the pass rush allows. Too many times, we saw a passer with too much time. I think we trade up about 7-10 spots now to get Awuzie, Bouser or Obi. Not rebuilding, just reloading.

  342. Derron James says:

    They need to speed up the process lol

  343. Derron James says:

    Tyus bowser

  344. Volume12 says:

    Love the pick by B-more too.

  345. nichansen01 says:

    Ravens having an excellent draft

  346. Misfit74 says:

    Damn you, NFL Draft: I WANT OBI NOW RIGHT NOW

    Bowser to Ravens. Good pick

  347. Derron James says:

    feeling good now that Obi will make it too us

  348. Derron James says:

    Redskins didn’t make a pick I like

  349. Misfit74 says:

    Bengal maybe a DE or OL

  350. Nathan says:

    Bucs on the clock, have a bad feeling we lose another one here.

  351. Ishmael says:

    Fantastic draft for the Colts. Such a shame they’ve already wasted so much of Luck’s career.

  352. BobbyK says:

    Cunningham, Obi, Awuzie… all still available. Don’t need to trade up until only one of those guys are available.

  353. Volume12 says:


    Perfect fit though.

  354. Derron James says:

    I’m praying Tampa doesn’t take a DB even though I’m so sure they will

  355. nichansen01 says:

    Joe mixon is a bengal

  356. Nathan says:

    Felt bad for Munoz having to announce that pick.

  357. RealRhino2 says:

    FWIW, I don’t like Ramczyk, but love what Saints have done in their DB corps with Lattimore and Marcus Williams. MW probably 2nd-best pure “centerfielder” safety in the draft.

  358. nichansen01 says:

    Buccs take Obi

  359. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Shocker……. Bengals take guy with character problems

  360. SheHawk says:

    Where are our hawks moving up to grab our SBD guys? Bowser is gone….. but the force is strong and we will get our man — OBI maybe Chidobe we still have good guys but am shocked we havent made our move back up yet

  361. Derron James says:

    I think we need to trade up soon with Detroit Tampa bay miami and Oakland waiting there

  362. Aaron says:

    Bengals are one of those cultures that would take a chance on Mixon. Great talent if he can be smart off the field.

  363. Ishmael says:

    Classic Bengals. Trash organisation. They’re welcome to it.

  364. Misfit74 says:

    Great pick, Bengals. L. Bell 2.0 in same division. Best RB in draft.

  365. coach says:

    Who do you like better at 58:

    Obi, Awuzi, or Witherspoon and why?

    Go Hawks!

    • BobbyK says:

      I think I like Cunningham.

    • Grant G says:

      Awuzi, for me. I want a guy ready to come in and start Day 1 on the other side of Sherm

    • Ishmael says:

      Obi or Awuzi. PC can work with ‘less’ talented guys out on the boundary. Can find someone later, put them into the production line. They’ve never felt the need to have a great corner opposite Sherman before.

  366. Volume12 says:

    Is Washington working a trade here?

  367. Ehurd1021 says:

    Rooting for Mixon.

    Hope he continues to do all the right things and has much success.

  368. Volume12 says:

    Witherspoon, Obi, Awuzie, Moreau still out there. Richmond’s David Jones too.

    Asiata, Moton.

  369. Aaron says:

    Hawks gonna trade up or no???

    • Nathan says:

      Falling nicely for us at this point.

      The only danger is someone jumps ahead of us and gets our guy.

  370. vrtkolman says:

    Ryan Anderson seems like a reach.

  371. Volume12 says:

    This draft for Washington screams Scot McCloughan.

  372. Trevor says:

    Bengals with Ross and Mixon

    Indy with Hooker and Wilson

    SF with Thomas and Foster

    These 3 teams are killing the 2017 draft so far!

    • Hogmauly says:

      And the Browns with Myles, Peppers, and Njoku. Not to mention picking up an extra 1st next year.

  373. nichansen01 says:

    Woah woah… Obi is plummeting…

    • peter says:

      not a “big” hitter, not a cover corner. Awesome athlete but many probably view him as a tweener of sorts. Still think he makes a metric ton of sense in Seattle.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      There’s a lot of talent still on the board.

    • BobbyK says:

      Maybe he doesn’t “love” football? Something isn’t right. He’s a good tackler. Great size. McDowell doesn’t seem to love football either though.

  374. Derron James says:

    Broncos took a guy I like and also good pick for Tampa

  375. vrtkolman says:

    This is making me re-think Obi.. if he’s falling behind guys like Justin Evans I’m questioning why.

  376. SheHawk says:

    FWIT – female point of view – Joe Mixon non starter to start but not surprised Bengal grabbed him given their culture. However I feel same thing applies to the CB from Michigan – Lewis — There is no such thing a ” a little choking” often choking used to control and terrorize someone -since it can be done in a way that doesn’t leave marks …. So given I have come out opposing him — likely we pick him but FYI Seattle as a city doesn’t tolerate that kind of bad behavior

    PS – NFL HUGE hypocrites when it comes to their policies on domestic violence — they are so inconsistent and running their little ads. Women are the fastest growing audience for NFL but their stance is just a complete sham… Seahawks luckily set a higher standard

  377. Volume12 says:

    TB gets their roadrunner.

    Good for them. I was torn on him though.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Would have loved to see what he could become with a couple years under PC’s wing though.

  378. troy says:

    TB takes the hard hitting Justin Evans

  379. Derron James says:

    Please chill Cleveland Detroit Oakland and Houston

  380. Misfit74 says:

    Dodged a bullet when TB took Justin Evans instead of Obi. /whew

  381. Nathan says:

    Browns on clock now.

  382. Ishmael says:

    Evans is overrated IMO, not worried about him.

  383. Joshua Smith says:

    Trey Wingo is insufferable

  384. Nathan says:

    This is who picks before us:

    52. Browns Via Titans
    53. Lions
    54. Dolphins
    55. Giants
    56. Raiders
    57. Texans
    58. Seahawks

  385. Derron James says:

    I think Obi or Awuzie is gonna happen though

  386. jujus says:

    Really like the fit for the broncos fit

  387. Mike says:

    we need a run on kickers right here..

  388. LeoSharp says:

    Obi’s 4 years in college is really working against him.

  389. Nick says:

    Do they go Tim Williams? Double down on first round talents on the DL?

  390. Misfit74 says:

    If we get Obi (or to a lesser degree, Awuzie) along with McDowell this draft is a success.

  391. Volume12 says:

    Could Antonio Garcia be a dark horse candidate for the Seahawks? Or does he go here to Denver?

    They need a DT. Wormley?

  392. nichansen01 says:

    Please no Antonio Garcia

  393. Eburgz says:

    OBI/Awuzie or bust for me too guys

  394. nichansen01 says:

    I want CARLOS WATKINS at 58… or OBI

  395. jujus says:

    I actually really like the browns draft so far this last pick could work who knows.

  396. Derron James says:

    Wow Cleveland finally did what they were supposed to do hint hint

  397. nichansen01 says:

    Demarcus Walker is off the board

  398. Misfit74 says:

    Walker, FSU, to DEN. Sweet.

  399. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Broncs reloading the DL

  400. Ishmael says:

    Far out. Another great pick for the Donkeys. They’re having a fantastic draft.

  401. Coleslaw says:

    Damn, a little sad, but we got McDowell So no love lost

  402. Eburgz says:

    Demarcus Walker off the board. guess he would have been redundant with McDowell.

  403. Volume12 says:

    That’s a great fit for Denver.

    Walker is much more suited for a 3-4.

  404. Derron James says:

    I have a prediction that Seattle may try to trade back into the bottom of the second round again

  405. Misfit74 says:

    Trade up for Obi now, please.


    5 picks until ours.

  406. Derron James says:

    Yes I think we are good I have to say that the lions took one of the most overrated players IMO

  407. Nathan says:

    Lions pick is in, Dolphins on clock.

  408. vrtkolman says:

    Poor Cleveland.

  409. Aaron says:

    Browns take Kizer…lol!!! Browns still being Browns

  410. Misfit74 says:

    Lions didn’t blow it for us.

  411. Derron James says:

    I’m feeling so happy rn idk how people aren’t going after Awuzie or Obi

  412. Del tre says:

    Browns are having an awesome draft!!

  413. Misfit74 says:

    C’mon Dolphins. You need a LB, take Cunningham.

  414. Ed says:

    Detroit might stay home and go Wormley or Lewis

  415. Derron James says:

    I think if Obi and Awuzie is there we take Obi and try to come back and get chidobe before the cowboys possibly

  416. Derron James says:

    Good dolphins are chillin too

  417. C-Dog says:

    Garrett, Peppers, Njoku, Kizer. Love what the Browns are doing.

  418. Ishmael says:

    Kizer does have serious talent, fantastic specimen. Hu Jackson is a top notch coach, way better than that absolute creep Brian Kelly.

  419. Nathan says:

    Dolphins have picked, raiders up.

  420. Derron James says:

    We are definitely getting one of the two IMO so smart that they didn’t trade up yet

  421. drewdawg11 says:

    Please let’s get Obi

  422. vrtkolman says:

    Land a DB and then trade up for Tim Williams.

  423. Misfit74 says:

    Giants should take a LB…massive need

  424. Ishmael says:

    What are people seeing in Cunningham? He’s soft. Needs to be kept super clean, like a really cut price KJ Wright.

    • peter says:

      He was 90 percent of Vandy’s d. I agree with you but 16 tfl? not bad

    • Volume12 says:

      Runs like a deer. Competitive.

      He has to go to a team that will keep him clean.

      • peter says:

        true about keeping him clean.

      • Ishmael says:

        Yeah that’s what I’m saying. I think he needs to go to a very specific team. The Rams maybe, the Dolphins, the Jets. Honestly, the Hawks would probably be an okay fit. He’s just not my kind of player.

  425. Derron James says:

    Raiders are prob going after chidobe

  426. Misfit74 says:

    Raiders need a MLB badly…maybe that’s what they do. Cunningham or Raekwon

  427. Derron James says:

    Dang a guy I liked went to the giants but we are still good!

  428. John_s says:

    Cody Kessler > Deshone Kizer

    Out of the top QB’s I had Kizer at the bottom

  429. Derron James says:


  430. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Raiders on the clock according to radio, but is 3 picks behind 🙁

  431. Nathan says:

    Giants have picked.

  432. Volume12 says:

    Don’t like that pick for Detroit, but they did get Jarrad Davis. He’ll be comfortable there.

  433. Volume12 says:

    No one tip our pick.

  434. C-Dog says:

    Obi, Awuzie, Asiata, Cunningham, Jourdan Lewis. Some players sitting there

  435. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Chiefs are a prime trade up target for Seattle….. and their 3rd round picks

  436. Volume12 says:

    Good fit for Miami. I liked him.

  437. Derron James says:

    I think McMillan isn’t bad but eh

  438. SheHawk says:

    I bet no one willing to let us trade up Otherwise we would have — Other teams probably have a few players they really like in round 2 and luckily for us — they are spreading things arounds ….so we still have SBD guys out there — my bet is JS is trying to go up and price too high

  439. C-Dog says:

    McMillian over Cunningham, interesting

  440. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Seattle trades down! (j/k)

  441. Ishmael says:

    “Raekwon Da Chef!” – Me and literally everyone else watching

  442. Volume12 says:

    One of my favorite players in the entire draft goes to NY.

    This years Jarran Reed.

  443. C-Dog says:

    Tomlinson is a great pickup for the Giants

  444. Derron James says:

    Please don’t make me mad raiders I beg u

  445. Ed says:

    Anyone figure out how the PC clues led to MM?

  446. nichansen01 says:

    Raiders about to screw the Seahawks over I think

  447. BobbyK says:

    I would imagine the Texans will try to trade down. After all, they don’t have picks in the first two rounds next year. Gotta try to do something to get a pick for ’18, right? Or does their GM and coach go “all in” for now because they know for a fact they won’t be around to not have picks next year if they lose this year?

  448. Nathan says:

    Someone just got snatched from us.

    It’s gonna be a disappointment.

  449. nichansen01 says:

    Let’s take Tim Williams…

  450. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Dalvin is a bad looking dude

  451. Ed says:

    Raiders need DL/LB. Cunningham/Willis

  452. Isaac says:

    I think that video helped me climb back off the ledge. That was really interesting and helps me understand why the hawks wanted him.

  453. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    F U Raiders

  454. Jesse James says:

    Oakland swoops Obi to pair with Karl Joseph, damnnnnn we were so close

  455. Producehawk says:

    William brown stalling lol

  456. nichansen01 says:




  457. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    F U Texans

  458. BobbyK says:

    Yeah. That sucks.

  459. Misfit74 says:


  460. Volume12 says:

    Love the pick Oakland.

    Him and Karl Joseph? Wow!

  461. nichansen01 says:


  462. vrtkolman says:

    I don’t think Obi was in play after visiting 4 times. Seattle would have taken him with their first pick otherwise. The fact that he fell so far is worrying. Awuzie please!

  463. Ishmael says:

    Oh FFS. Just had to trade up a slice. Ah well, Awuzie?

  464. Darth12er says:

    Nooooo I’m gonna cry

  465. Derron James says:

    Why raiders

  466. C-Dog says:

    Dang, I think that hurts more than Bolles to Denver. Good for the Raiders.

  467. Misfit74 says:

    If Seattle liked him as much as we do, we wouldn’t have waited. Guessing they have someone else in mind.

    • Grant G says:

      I think that’s fair. They had every chance to go get him. I think they move around next round, too

  468. nichansen01 says:




  469. Ed says:

    Awuzie and Jones would be a dream.

  470. peter says:

    Folks if it’s Awuzie it’s gonna get real nice…Tim Williams maybe?

  471. Aaron says:

    I was high on Obi until I really thought about it hard. Awesome athlete but does he have that dawg mentality? I don’t think so and that’s why the Hawks don’t need him. McDowell has that dawg mentality, and I sure hope our next pick does too.

  472. nichansen01 says:


  473. C-Dog says:

    My bet is that Seattle moves down.

  474. SheHawk says:

    Finally we see — perhaps a name we know please someone we like???

  475. Poko says:

    I’m crying

  476. Derron James says:

    Texans u suck

  477. nichansen01 says:

    Zachary Cunningham to Houston

  478. Mike says:

    Obi..waist bender..heavy legs..never liked him.. ;<)

  479. Derron James says:

    It’s all good tho we get Awuzie hopefully

  480. Volume12 says:

    Cunningham is a perfect fit for Houston.

  481. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Awuzie and Witherspoon both in ply imo

  482. Hawksince77 says:

    so who’s left? Awuzie? Williams?

  483. Ed says:


  484. Hawksince77 says:

    Let it be Awuzie…

  485. vrtkolman says:

    If no DB here, I guess it was true that JS didn’t like this DB class. Unless they are waiting for the 3rd. Lots of talent here still, like Awuzie.

  486. Derron James says:


  487. Hawksince77 says:

    Seattle’s on the clock – time for commercials!

  488. nichansen01 says:

    Awuzie or maybe Witherspoon?

  489. John_s says:

    Obi is going to the perfect team. Norton is going to get on his butt and put that dawg in him.

  490. LeoSharp says:

    I would hate awuzie as the pick.

  491. Derron James says:

    Please just don’t make it Davis Webb lmaooo

  492. Volume12 says:

    Come on!

    Every time we pick they go to a damn commercial.

  493. Nathan says:

    Just saw our pick.

  494. CharlieTheUnicorn says:



  495. Del tre says:

    We have blown it.

  496. Matt says:


  497. Derron James says:

    I see it

  498. peter says:

    just saw it already

  499. C-Dog says:

    Tim Williams ,Awuzie, Asiata, Witherspoon.. gonna be interesting

  500. Volume12 says:

    Motion, Gsarcia, Asiata, Pocic?

    Or a DB?

  501. Derron James says:

    Damn is all I have to say

  502. Derron James says:

    Don’t like it are u joking lmao

  503. Volume12 says:

    Yes sir!

  504. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Witherspoon CB target in 3rd

  505. nichansen01 says:


  506. Rowdy says:

    Who is it?

  507. C-Dog says:

    Ethan Pocic. Wow. Did not see that coming

  508. Blueshawk says:


  509. Ed says:

    That means Britt is gone next year.

  510. troy says:


  511. Forrest says:


  512. GerryG says:




  513. Volume12 says:

    They had to go O-line. Had to.

    Sorry if it wasn’t a TEF dude. But he’s versatile.

    • peter says:

      Versatile how? How does Seattle need more competition at the one spot that works? How does a team full of guards and cast off tackles need more guards and another center?

  514. vrtkolman says:


  515. Derron James says:

    Hill we will trade up and get a CB

  516. Ishmael says:


    So Britt’s gone next year. Jesus.

  517. nichansen01 says:



  518. drewdawg11 says:

    This draft is really strange. Not sure about this.

  519. Aaron says:

    Hmm…………..hedge against Britt and possible replacement for Britt. My favorite center in the draft, but can also play guard. NFL comp is Unger, who started at guard and then became a pro bowl center. If Britt is too expensive then we got his replacement.

  520. Poko says:


  521. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    See ya later Joey Hunt

  522. peter says:

    Real talk.

    Rob Staton I have appreciated your staunch desire for cooler heads to prevail when discussing the Oline. I can not be soothed this time. This pick is hot trash. There is no spin to this. When you have Hunt already and your only good player on the Oline is your center you do not pick a center.

  523. Volume12 says:

    Britt ain’t coming back. I don’t think so.

  524. Ryan says:

    This team’s absolute inability to simply draft the best player available is amazing.

  525. Rowdy says:

    Worst draft ever pc/js so far

  526. nichansen01 says:

    Like can someone explain this to me? Taking a center?

  527. C-Dog says:

    Can’t wait to hear what PC/JS have to say. Maybe have the dude play guard, or switch Britt back to guard? He’s a good player.

  528. Derron James says:

    Don’t like the chiefs pick

  529. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Able to play C or LG…. and RG

  530. Misfit74 says:

    I’ve seen a lot of folks really rave about Elfein, but Pocic is a better athlete, and certainly a candidate to start a OG right away. Big surprise.

    I guess we stick with our CB trends after all…

  531. Hawks22Fun says:

    I literally FEEL Betrayed…WTF??? who?

    They must just WANT to lose/decline… GeeZus

    • Hawks22Fun says:

      Why do we Even bother??? This is HORRIBLE.

      a LAZY DT, and now a replacement for Britt? the ONLY solid O Lineman we have??? WTH?

  532. Eburgz says:

    Scrub OL. Sick…

  533. HawkTalker #1 says:

    That just blew my mind, what a dumbass pick

  534. Ishmael says:

    Are they going to put Britt back at centre to fight it out with Glow? I have no idea what they’re thinking. One of my least favourite picks of the entire draft so far.

  535. Coleslaw says:

    Well.. now we wait till 90? We need to trade up for Awuzie. Get some star power. Pocic is underwhelming.

  536. nichansen01 says:

    Ughhh i hate this pick

  537. John_s says:

    Did Jacob Green announce him as a tackle?

  538. Misfit74 says:


    “12/19/16 – 2016 ALL-SEC FOOTBALL FIRST TEAM (COACHES): C Ethan Pocic, LSU,…As one of the top offensive linemen in LSU’s history, Pocic started all 11 games for the Tigers in 2016, with 10 starts coming at center and one at right tackle. He led all LSU offensive linemen in total snaps played (680), knockdowns (92), and “great effort” plays (33). He had double-digit knockdown blocks in four games, including having a season-high 14 knockdowns in a win over Texas A&M, allowing just one sack all season. – LSU Football”

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      He sounds pretty good. I like high effort linemen. The problem is that the Seahawks are need tackles. So maybe Pocic will be tried as a tackle in preseason. If he doesn’t make it there they could look to move him inside. It sounds like he could outblock two of the current starters.

  539. GerryG says:

    Secondary is aging and declining…and injured. Best secondary draft in years, maybe a generation. Why not just neglect it and draft an underachiever and OL I’ve never seen a word about anywhere, who plays center, the only competent spot on your OL.

    Hello 2013 draft.

    • Ed says:

      Don’t disagree to a degree, but both players are actually highly talked about. DT can be Aaron Donald and OL can be Unger. If they hit, great. But yes, pretty crazy

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Totally agree Gerry. It isn’t that the players selected wouldn’t be useful if they become starters. It is that this is an opportunity to totally change the Seahawk secondary from great to elite. Two really good picks for cornerback or safety, and it would rebuild the secondary. KC picked one of the guys we talked about right after our Pocic pick.

      I see it as a missed opportunity. Hopefully these two guys will develop, we can always use more support on the line.

  540. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Baffling choice with Awuzie and Williams still available.

  541. Hawksince77 says:

    Maybe Britt plays RT, Pocic at center. Something like: Joeckel/Glow/Pocic/Ifedi/Britt

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      I was thinking that too. Then realized that Britt would be on his last year. So if he develops into a good tackle, Seahawks would either have to pay him lots, or he would walk in free agency. Either thing would suck unless we were sure he could handle the tackle job.

  542. jujus says:


  543. Isaac says:

    Does anyone have the list of people the hawks brought in for interviews or private work outs?

  544. Josh emmett says:

    Hahaha, doesn’t seem like anyone had a good read on what the Hawks are up to this year.

  545. Forrest says:

    I don’t dislike the player, but the timing seems really off.

  546. Volume12 says:

    They don’t draft DBs early.

    This draft proves it.

  547. Derron James says:

    I actually like the pick

  548. nichansen01 says:

    I really don’t get it. A center? Where does he play? We already have two centers.

    I don’t get this at all.

    Seeing Obi go and then this

    Punch in the gut

  549. Sea Mode says:

    Welp… whatever.

    Pocic, 6060, 310, 33.125 arm, 10.125 hand, 80.25 wing, 5.15 40yd, 1.85 10yd, 4.81 SS, 7.89 3C, 26 bench, 27 vert, 8.92 broad

    2.81 TEF
    87.03 wTEF

  550. Kendo says:

    WTF?! WTF is all…

  551. SheHawk says:

    I am really questioning everything now — weird Chidobe was there — even Assiata if we needed OL for god sake but a center??? Seriously wow super disappointed.

    We are scary right now Last night thought we were brilliant Now its just all too cute too fancy trying to outsmart folks — why not just take Williams or Chidobe or anyone that can help us win SB?? bench for the 1 good Oline position we had?!!

  552. BradCanuck says:

    Should have traded back…

  553. Misfit74 says:

    STRENGTHS Five-for-one lineman offering roster flexibility; has played tackle, guard and center. Determined player. Shoots hands inside defenders frame and keeps them there. Shows the hand strength and body control to “ride the bull” against stronger players while remaining engaged. Rapid lateral movement allows him to slide along his gap to pick up blitzers. Pass sets feature adequate base width and solid hand quickness. Fluid combo-blocker who glides easily to his second-level targets with good angles. Patient blocker on second level. Able to wait as long as possible for committing to his block in space. Features good body control and high connection rate on blocks in space. Athletic on pull blocks and screens and able to make blocks well down the field. Smart and makes the offensive calls.
    WEAKNESSES Tall for a center, losing some leverage battles because of it. Athletic ability offset by below-average core strength. Doesn’t play with the pad level or leg drive to uproot defenders without help. Gets jarred by power across from him. Upper body strength needs work. Anchor will always be an issue against zero-technique nose guards. Gives into pocket pushers, creating traffic in the backfield. Defenders able to drive through his edge and redirect attempts. Can be quicker into proper positioning for reach blocks. Has difficulty securing zone blocks at times.
    NFL COMPARISON Brandon Linder
    BOTTOM LINE Flexible, natural athlete with starting experience all along the LSU offensive line. Scouts say Pocic has the intelligence teams look for from a center and is highly regarded by LSU coaches and teammates in the locker room. Pocic is an excellent “work-up” blocker with the ability to thrive in a running game that operates in space, but his lack of power will produce some extremely challenging matchups for him at times.
    -Lance Zierlein

    • TCal says:

      Every early lineman we’ve ever taken was a mauler with size and strength. He doesn’t fit that bill according to this excerpt.

  554. Ukhawk says:


  555. nichansen01 says:

    Seahawks are going to lose their credibility in the draft.

    Absolutely awful pick.

    • Derron James says:

      Actually u are losing your credibility

    • Aaron says:

      While the picks are interesting, they aren’t losing credibility. If the Hawks begin to fall off the cliff, miss the playoffs for a couple years, then MAYBE they’re losing credibility. A high upside DT and the best center in the draft, I’m sure these kind of picks would have gotten Hawks nation ecstatic last year.

  556. BradCanuck says:

    A centre who they see as Tackle. Waaaaaa!! 🙁

  557. CharlieTheUnicorn says:


    my feeling right now

  558. Josh emmett says:

    Procic can play all 5 positions on the line. Right guard?

  559. Derron James says:

    Did not see this coming but we will see a corner in the third

  560. Misfit74 says:

    As if on cue, Awuzie goes to Dallas.

  561. Volume12 says:

    He can play RG, RT, LT, and if Britt signs elsewhere? There’s our new C.

    And he plays for a school that knows how to run the goddamn ball.

  562. Hawksince77 says:

    It’s so interesting that all of us get so invested in particular players (Awuzie, Baker for me, for instance) that we react poorly when PC/JS doesn’t agree.

    (Crap, their goes Awuzie)

    • Volume12 says:

      Yeah. Can’t do that.

      Were their better players on the board? Yep. Was there a more versatile OL? Nope.

  563. Ed says:

    There goes Awuzie

  564. Derron James says:

    Seattle did miss on Awuzie tho

  565. nichansen01 says:


    And then Awuzie


  566. Ishmael says:

    Look, he’s a really good centre – best in the draft. But what’s the point of him? All I can really think is that they don’t want to pay up for Britt next year

  567. C-Dog says:

    Drew Pearson is a Boss. Great pick for the Boyz

  568. Ryan says:

    And there goes Awuzie.

  569. Rob Staton says:


  570. CLB says:

    When they showed the Seahawks draft room, Pete sidehanded threw a sunglasses case or something on the table – think he really wanted Obi to fall to us, and this was a Cable pick. He probably would’ve preferred a DB. They won’t say it, but he didn’t seem happy throwing something as he was getting up out of his chair, and no hugs or high-fives like with the earlier pick.

    Would have much rather seen us get Awuzie, who the Cowboys just got, Lewis or Tankersley, they won’t be there by our late 3s.

  571. Ishmael says:

    OH FFS

    Now I’m really unhappy

  572. Josh emmett says:

    Build strength in the trenches! Love it so far!

    • Rowdy says:

      Except he doesn’t add strength

      • peter says:

        he’s just a like for like swap of Seattle’s deepest Oline unit. Center. Awesome maybe three good centers makes a run game?

        • Josh emmett says:

          He is not just a center, he is a versatile young offensive linemen by trade not a project, not a basketball player. Going to be rad. This is how you get the run game going again. Get some competition in there

      • Josh emmett says:

        Why do you say that?

        • Josh emmett says:

          Adding a versatile young linemen is a great move and builds strength and depth. I’m not talking about the bench press. I’m talking about getting competition there. Awesome

        • peter says:

          Because he’s a center. That’s why. And Britt played pretty well considering the mess around him. And if Britt wasn’t that good what was the point of even drafting the NFL small Joey Hunt?

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          Some scouts say he lacks core strength and his length/height exacerbates that.

  573. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Finally, the draft is going sideways!

  574. Sea Mode says:

    Why do I feel really stupid right now seeing the Cowboys pick Awuzie…?

  575. Nathan says:

    Lol at that trolling of the philly crowd by Drew Pearson.

  576. Ed says:

    Tankersley/Douglas/Griffin/Wilson/Lewis still available.

  577. HawkTalker #1 says:

    When towers picks up the start we should have selected. Is there any history for NFL teams picking draft picks out of a hat or throwing darts at a board? Seahawks are a team that can break all the rules

  578. Derron James says:

    I think we will still get a haul

  579. Hawksince77 says:

    The offensive line needs the most work, and it sounds like they actually drafted a very good offensive lineman. Just imagine being able to run the ball effectively, and protect RW. That’s something to root for.

  580. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Seahawks select the 5th OL in the 2017 draft… wowza

  581. Derron James says:

    Love josh jones

  582. peter says:

    Okay I’ll come off the ledge. Maybe Pocic is good. Maybe Pocic is great. Then the counter to all that is this. WTF is going on with wasting pick after pick every year on OLine when what you’re saying is Britt sort of sucks and we won’t resign him after sitting through his crap play, oh and Hunt was another wasted pick sorry folks, but this year we really zeroed in on it?

    That’s my problem with the pick. It’s all the other picks that got us to this point. A wasted year for IFedi at Guard and A waste possibly for either Britt/or Hunt

  583. Ed says:

    Dang, there goes Jones. Rebuilding their secondary like the Hawks should have been.

  584. glassmonkey says:

    He would have been there in the 3rd. Seahawks seem to be clueless on value.

  585. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Trade for Williams soon?

  586. SheHawk says:

    I commend all of the folks who are remaining calm and staying positive. You have obviously been taking your yoga breathing seriously — I really loved the announcement by Drew Pearson though hilarious and you know the Philly crowd loved showering the boos on that guy!

  587. Josh emmett says:

    I’ll say it again I don’t think anyone here had a handle on what they were going to do. It’s exciting! Haha

  588. vrtkolman says:

    This blog is funny sometimes. Pocic isn’t a sexy pick but it’s a solid pick at a position of dire need. No where near the worst pick in the draft. Lol.

    • peter says:

      Center is a dire need?

    • Rowdy says:

      The team is full of guards, how is this a dire need

    • Eburgz says:

      How does he get on the field? How many guards do we need? Pocic, Glowinski, Abushi, Joekyl. Ifedi is still a guard until he proves he can play tackle in the NFL. Odiambo is probably just a guard too. If Pocic can play right tackle is the only way this pick makes sense to me. I guess let the competition sort it out and the cream will rise to the top?

      • vrtkolman says:

        I might be in the minority, but Glo is a JAG at his best. Otherwise, he’s really bad. I could see Pocic beating him outright.

  589. Misfit74 says:

    Going to be Brian Williams round 4/5 after all…

  590. EP says:

    Surprised Packers didn’t go Kamara

  591. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Pocic says he has never talked to Cable… LOL

  592. FuzzyLOgic says:


    Love Mcdowell & Pocic. Build the trenches baby!!

    Always thought Obi was overrated as well as many others taken before us. Mcdowell reminds me of Kawaan Short. Build the O-line baby. This WILL pay dividends in the end.

    BTW we don’t draft CB’s early. Bank on it.

    • Volume12 says:

      Nope. This draft absolutely proved it.

      They draft guys the fans dont see coming. Kinda genius.

      • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

        I had thought Procic was in play, but the FA additions lessened my thoughts that he might be in play….. more likely in the 3rd round

    • Greg Haugsven says:

      The foundation of a football team is the lines. I’m good with both picks.

      • peter says:

        Except the foundation of this team is as much ball control as depth on the D which they still don’t have. So you improve the Center spot but you keep rolling out Defenders getting older not younger.

      • Ukhawk says:

        Good point

    • Aaron says:

      Agreed, Hawks doing what they always do with DBs, draft them in the later rounds. We thought here in SDB that they would go early on DB but, as Rob said, DL was the last minute feeling of the top experts and it happened. Solid draft so far.

  593. Mark Souza says:

    My nick name for McDowell until he proves me wrong is “Lazy Boy.” He’s a recliner.

  594. Coleslaw says:

    We’re waiting for Luani and Rasul Douglas I bet.
    90. Chris Godwin
    95. Vince Biegel
    102. George Kittle
    106. Rasul Douglas
    111. Shalom Luani

  595. Misfit74 says:

    The guys at NDT scouting had some good things to say about Pocic. Say some of the best recovery balance in the class, more length and versatility than Elfien, and that Pocic is technically sound.

  596. Derron James says:

    Juju is one of my favorite college football players and hope he does well (USC fan)

  597. EP says:

    Suppose we’ll see if Pocic was a good pick by this time next year. Don’t particularly know what to think. Would really have loved Awuzie or Melifonwu but PC/JS obviously have their own agenda for the draft and I suppose that’s the only one that matters.

  598. Ehurd1021 says:

    Is the offensive line really this bad in this class?

    For you to be sitting back and having to look for centers to convert to tackle is telling, to say the least, lol. I don’t understand that pick especially at that point in the draft.

  599. Ukhawk says:


  600. C-Dog says:

    McDowell and Pocic. Love these picks. Seattle is using the depth of this draft, and committing to the trenches early. Both these guys could be pro bowlers, and ya’ll would be looking back at this day and remembering how bent sideways you were. Go Hawks.

  601. nichansen01 says:

    Personally, I think Pocic is a guard for us,

  602. Dale Roberts says:

    So far I hate this draft. I can’t believe they left Melifonwu and Awusie on the board to take Pocic. I did ask Rob about him but I had him pegged as a third or fourth round option. That being said one thing I liked about him is that he played every position on the line.

  603. LeoSharp says:

    Ethan Pocic is the first olineman who the Seahawks have selected in years who has a really high floor.

    • peter says:

      Since Carpenter you mean? He was actually considered a well regarded tackle guard prospect.

    • peter says:

      Unless the thought is Tom Cable you suck and we’re making your picks for you here on out, then in a strange way I’m almost for it.

  604. Poko says:

    I cannot understand their thought.Why..?

    • Volume12 says:

      He’s versatile, tough, fairly athletic. TC guy. Doesn’t need the accolades, under appreciated. Fournette ran behind this guy all day long. Tough as nails.

    • Dawgma says:

      Maybe they finally learned the lesson that their existing method for picking OL sucked and wasn’t working. I’m fine with breaking their pattern, because their pattern produced consistently poor results.

  605. Trevor says:

    Wow Vol 12 I have to give you credit you predicted the Hawks would take guys we would not expect and that we would all be surprised and pissed.

    You nailed it! I am used to being surprised by the Hawks picks but almost always come around after digging a little deeper. I have done my work on Mcdowell and at least can see the athletic potential.

    Pocic is a typical Seahawks OL pick with Cable at the helm and the reason we have had on of the worst OLs in the NFL 7 years running now. The worst pick in the entire draft IMO. A 2nd round pick in a loaded draft for a guy who is likely a hedge against not being able to re-sign our Center. Wow

    I was so excited heading into the Day #2 of the draft and now just feel like it is a bad dream.

    • Volume12 says:

      I didn’t want to be right about that though.

    • Volume12 says:

      Remember. Seattle didn’t like this draft!

      Everything I heard from their pressers told me they thought it was highly overrated.

      • AlaskaHawk says:

        Not for secondary. Too bad they will be well picked over before the Seahawks pick them. I guess there is always hoping for a fifth round miracle.

    • BobbyK says:

      How is this different than every other year?

    • Eburgz says:

      Didn’t think I could be disappointed with the first two rounds no matter what way they went. I was wrong. Agree about all your points.

  606. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    27 picks to go, until Seattle grabs another player

  607. Misfit74 says:

    Packers took Josh Jones…Dal took Awuzie. Damn. Im envious.

  608. Josh emmett says:

    Love the picks so far! Get that oline and Dline chalked full of competition and whoop some ass!

  609. Misfit74 says:

    Jones and King two of my favorite defenders. Nice job, Packers.

  610. He is versatile and his measurements are close to Mitch Morse right

  611. Forty20 says:

    Damn, the meltdown on here with the Pocic pick makes for some fun reading. Not a fun or flashy pick by any means, especially given we missed out on several SDB darlings, but we have shown a willingness to draft a year ahead for need if the right player is there.

    Facts are we have a franchise QB that we need to keep upright – especially after a heart-in-mouth season where he had two serious injuries.

    Still plenty of picks to tune up the defence.

    • Trevor says:

      I don’t mind going OL if it was for a guy who can come in and start or help like Bolles, Lamp or Robinson but to take a guy this year to be a backup C / G in this draft class is just bad use of draft capital IMO. If we had taken him with one of the 3rd round picks then fine I get it but now?

      It feels exactly like the Britt pick. A reach for a guy Cable likes for some reason. At least with Britt we had a dire need for an RT and there were few other options in that draft.

      I just don’t get the Pocic pick. At least with Mcdowell you can see the potential.

      • Hawksince77 says:

        Not sure where, but I bet Pocic starts the first regular season game, just based on his profile.

      • Dawgma says:

        He’s a high floor OG, and we had two of the worst in the league last year. If he can be league average, I’ll happily take him.

      • HawkTalker #1 says:

        People can say what they want, but I guarantee, guaranteed, guarantee this guy would have been available with a later round pick. Poor draft capital management.

  612. Derron James says:

    Please do something Seattle

  613. Misfit74 says:

    Steelers may as well take my guy Brian Williams now just to get it over with.

  614. Misfit74 says:

    Wow. JuJu to PIT. Crazy. That passing offense is going to be unreal. I thought they might go Hodges…JuJu a much better pick.

  615. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    I guess I could be a Bears fan right now……. then I might off myself

  616. Ishmael says:

    Can’t blame Cable for this IMO. He hasn’t even met the kid.

    Trying to talk myself into it, this is the best I can do… Pocic is a very good player. He’s a hedge against Britt leaving, unless they want Britt competing at guard against Glowinski. He’s versatile, can cover multiple spots on the line – a very important thing when the depth is as poor as ours. He’s tough, knows how to get up to the second level, and can control a line that runs the ball.

    I still feel a bit sick, it’s like 2013 all over again, but that’s the best rationalisation I can give.

    • Trevor says:

      2013 is a good comp so far.

    • peter says:

      Depth is great and so is versatility. If he’s better than Britt so be it. Then the Britt pic was official crap. Hestly the Oline has zero identity for me other than crappy inconsistent play so another early slate of games watching them bungle around and hope Wilson doesn’t get hurt honestly doesn’t even phase me.

      Now not fixing the secondary depth and people saying see they get all these great late DB’s….true until one of them named earl is hurt and then the thing sucks….there’s that.

  617. LLLOGOSSS says:

    Anyone else see Pete toss his phone, get up and kinda pound the table as he left the room?

    I think he wanted Obi and they effed it up.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Missed it. Did he?

      • Volume12 says:

        Because JS controls the war room. He can veto any and everything.

      • LLLOGOSSS says:

        It was subtle, but yes. They showed it on NFL network, when he kinda flipped his phone on the desk they made a crack about him being done with Candy Crush. Then he got up and kinda lightly pounded the table, not in a good way.

    • Coleslaw says:

      They’re friggin idiots if they wanted him that bad, there’s no excuse for not goinf and getting your guy.

  618. Trenchtown says:

    Grab em by the Poice!!!!

  619. Sea Mode says:

    Well, at least they got their choice before the 2nd wave on OL started.

  620. Volume12 says:

    Thrilled, like C-Dog mentioned, we’re getting back to we used to be. Remember that clue. Someone I used to know?

    Oh u mean a team that runs the ball, lets RW scramble around, and gets after the pass rusher in droves? Here. For. It.

    • peter says:

      I appreciate the positivity but really? How is this getting back to what they used to be? This is what they do every year. Pick an oliner and tell us this is the one that’ll fix it and every year it’s the same.

    • Eburgz says:

      Appreciate you trying to talk most everyone off the edge of the cliff. But how does Pocic get on the field in 2017? people are already saying there isn’t room for Glowinski on the line with Abushi and Luke J on the team.

      • Volume12 says:

        You let everyone battle it out come TC. The cream will rise to the top, competition will sort the rest, and then ur coaches come in and help those that need it.

  621. Sunhawks says:

    After how many years of PCJS drafts we think we can predict their picks??? They are 100% predictably unpredictable. Don’t fret over it. Seahawks have been annual contenders throughout the PCJS era. Anyway, greatness is not always being perfect… it’s about the ability to overcome whatever you are faced with. Sometimes the ball bounces the other way… sometimes the draft has “your guys” get picked right before your # is called… repeatedly. Clearly Seahawks FO is not afraid to think outside the box. So, maybe a guy listed as “C” is going to be a “G” or even a “T”. We’ll see… and despite knowing that they can do some dumb things sometime (see SB XLIX), I trust PCJS to continue to make Seattle contenders… even if not dominators. Sorry for the rant… just want to walk some fellow 12’s from off the “worst draft ever” ledge.

    • HawkTalker #1 says:

      It’s not how you start but how you finish right? Good thing we have a couple seventh round picks.

  622. Derron James says:

    I think Witherspoon or Lewis is gonna come to seattle

  623. nichansen01 says:

    We need to add more to the o-line group. Pocic can play anywhere. That’s unique.

    Versatile lineman who can compete to start up and down the line and is a great leader.

    Could probably be better than Glow, Aboushi, heck even Fant and Joeckel. I think we needed to draft O-line.

    Not a sexy flashy pick, but a smart solid one.

  624. Glor says:

    Atl blog site had pocic going to atl in the possible first. Said he was the best lineman in the draft.

    • Volume12 says:

      I can’t stress enough how versatile he is. And the best RB to come out in years ran behind him all day.

  625. Saxon says:

    I’m always happy when the Seahawks address the trenches. It is where games are won and lost. With that said, Pocic went a round early and seems like a desperation pick after they were cheated out of Obi.

    Third round I expect DB, WR, LB, and Dobbs.

  626. Ehurd1021 says:

    Pocic played RT last year at LSU against Southern Miss and LOOKED GOOD. VERY GOOD to be honest.

    Here’s the game –

    • Trevor says:

      What pass rushers or DL talent does Southern Miss have?

      • Ehurd1021 says:

        Of course. However, if you put this game/film into perspective with his overall talent and accolades at LSU it makes sense to a certain extent. According to his phone interview, he doesn’t even see himself as a C at the next level.

        Only time will tell. We’ll see.

    • peter says:

      Southern miss? come on! I’m mostly joking but not quite..

    • jujus says:


      Im really disappointed in everyone I thought we were above this kind of collective meltdown.


      • Josh emmett says:

        Haha, yeah. Seattle doesn’t pick db’s before the 4th round because Carroll can turn any young athletic 32 inch arm football player into a NFL caliber player. Can’t wait for the late round picks and see what he has cooked up!

        • Ehurd1021 says:

          Lmao. I was full meltdown mode for awhile until I started to look around social media and began to start realizing that it’s a solid pick according to the pundits lol.

  627. Derron James says:

    Bye ogunjobi

  628. BobbyK says:

    Whenever we talk about tackles, people won’t allow for it if the tackle has short arms. This guy has short arms and now people are talking about him as a tackle?

    He may be a good pick. I don’t know. I’m going to root for him. But I never thought he’d go ahead of some of the guys he did.

    Before people hate the pick, just wait until we see who we take with our FOUR picks in this next round. They aren’t going to ignore the defensive backfield.

    The only head scratcher is that the Seahawks want to be the bully and he doesn’t seem the “bully” type from what I’ve read (I knew relatively nothing about him a few minutes ago so I’m going to refuse to hate on him one single bit).

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Somewhere above us there was a paragraph from LSU about him. He knocked a lot of his opponents on their butts, and was a real hustler. They really liked him at LSU.

    • Ehurd1021 says:

      Doesn’t Lamp have shorter arms than Pocic?

      Pocic didn’t give up a sack all last season; is universally regarded as one of the best OL in LSU history and had something like 20+ knockdown/pancake blocks last year lol. Safe to assume he’s a bully on the O-line.

  629. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Likely picks soon
    CB, S

    Unlikely picks soon

    • HawkTalker #1 says:

      I think we need to put a back up punter on the top of our draft priorities, just in case . . .

  630. C-Dog says:

    Browns are killing it. They just got My Guy, Larry Ogunjobi. Bravo.

  631. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Ifedi – RG, Pocic – RT is the scuttlebutt

  632. Coleslaw says:

    OBI was our guy….. I’m at a loss for words.. 9 separate picks they could have traded to move up 5 spots…

  633. Joshua Smith says:

    Emotions are running high right now. I think everyone no matter if you like the pick or not should remember that we are on the same team here.

  634. nichansen01 says:


    Ahkello Witherspoon is a niner

  635. Derron James says:

    Noooo are u joking

  636. Vista says:

    Why Witherspoon too

  637. Volume12 says:

    The 9ers are killing this draft. Impressed as hell.

  638. Ishmael says:

    The Browns are having the best draft of anyone??

  639. C-Dog says:

    Niners get a corner who can’t tackle!!!!

  640. Ishmael says:

    Meh oh Witherspoon. I’ve got no time for players who hate contact. Pick a different sport.

  641. Trevor says:

    49ers, Cardinals are killing this draft!

  642. Derron James says:

    Do something Seattle

  643. John_s says:

    Niners got their Mike Bennett, Bobby Wagner and their Sherman in this draft

  644. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Tankersley and Griffin could be in play at #90

  645. LeoSharp says:

    Of the CB’s left I think Shaquill Griffen is the best remaining.

  646. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Titans, solid pick

  647. nichansen01 says:

    Anyone else think the saints are having an awful draft?