Live Blog: NFL Draft Rounds 4-7

April 29th, 2017 | Written by Rob Staton

Use this as an open thread. Reaction to come below, plus a podcast later. I’ll also be posting a Seahawks draft review after the seventh round.

Round 2 | No. 35 overall — Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
Round 2 | No. 58 overall — Ethan Pocic (OL, LSU)
Round 3 | No. 90 overall — Shaq Griffin (CB, UCF)
Round 3 | No. 95 overall — Delano Hill (S, Michigan)
Round 3 | No. 102 overall — Nazair Jones (DT, North Carolina)
Round 3 | No. 106 overall — Amara Darboh (WR, Michigan)
Round 4 | No. 111 overall — Tedric Thompson (S, Colorado)
Round 6 | No. 187 overall — Michael Tyson (S, Cincinnati)
Round 6 | No. 210 overall — Justin Senior (T, Mississippi State)
Round 7 | No. 226 overall — David Moore (WR, East Central)
Round 7 | No. 249 overall — Chris Carson (RB, Oklahoma State)

Round four — #111 — Tedric Thompson (S, Colorado)
This is a really good pick. Thompson led the country in defended passes in 2016 (23 PD’s). That’s 1.64 passes defended a game. He also had seven interceptions. I wrote about him February. He jumped off the screen whenever you watched Colorado. He’s a true centre-fielder who covers ground quickly and makes plays. He’s a nice insurance for Earl Thomas if he misses any more time in the future. Good character too. Great value here. Thompson was named PFF’s best coverage defender in 2016.

Round six — #187 — Michael Tyson (S, Cincinnati)
So far the Seahawks have drafted three safety’s. He tied for second in the AAC with five interceptions in 2016 and managed 4.5 TFL’s. He ran a 4.56 at the combine and he’s 6-1, 204lbs. Tony Pauline says this about Tyson: “Tyson was a playmaker as well as an opportunistic defensive back who helped put his team in position to win games. He has limitations, but Tyson could surprise at the next level as a traditional strong safety or in a zone system.” The Seahawks might be taking PFA’s at this stage. It would’ve been challenging to convince another safety to sign as an UDFA after drafting Hill and Thompson. It’ll be easier to convince O-liner’s to sign considering they’ve previously given guys opportunities to start (George Fant, Garry Gilliam).

Round six — #210 — Justin Senior (T, Mississippi State)
The Senior Bowl wasn’t an exhibition of O-line play this year. Justin Senior was a good example of that. In the pass rush drills to start the week, it was difficult to watch Senior. Day one was not his friend and he struggled badly. However, he grew into the week and showed some improvement. That’s somewhat encouraging and it shows he can take coaching. He’s not a great athlete (8-2 broad, 5.55 forty) and might end up being some camp competition only. He has the size they’ve tried at tackle in the past.

Round seven — #226 — David Moore (WR, East Central)
Moore is 6-1 and 219lbs (big body) and ran a good looking 4.43. He managed a 36.5 inch vertical and a 10-4 broad. He doesn’t have a bio on so I can’t offer much info. He caught 57 passes for 878 yards and 10 touchdowns last season. Moore says the Seahawks showed a lot of interest in him. Seattle, more so than other teams, appear to really trust their regional scouts to find guys off the general radar. His physical profile is very similar to third round pick Amara Darboh.

Round seven — #249 — Chris Carson (RB, Oklahoma State)
I really like this pick to finish. The coaches at Oklahoma State called him out for being soft as a runner. He took it to heart and showed major improvement in his final year in college. It’s well established by now that Seattle has a ‘type’ at running back. Size matters — between 5-10 and 6-0 in height, around 220lbs is the key. They’re not overly concerned with speed but they love explosive traits. Carson had a 37 inch vertical and a 10-10 broad. He’ll add another body to the competition and he has a shot to stick on the roster.

1,336 Responses to “Live Blog: NFL Draft Rounds 4-7”

  1. Ishmael says:

    I just posted this at the end of the last thread, but I’d be interested in getting some thoughts from you guys on it:

    I think a lot of the disappointment is coming for a couple of reasons.

    a) The picks mostly aren’t super high ceiling, they’re not swinging for greatness. McDowell is probably the closest to that. Wonder if that’s something they’ve pulled back on a bit. Making sure they get really solid, gritty, professionals; not necessarily chasing the risky but MVP-calibre talents of guys like Harvin. High floor, low ceiling.

    b) They weren’t ‘known’ picks. We’ve been talking for months about guys like Obi, King, Watt, Budda, Lamp, Awuize, Bolles etc. Who was talking about Pocic, Jones, Griffin, Hill, Darboh? I’m sure a few of you really clued in dudes on here spotted them at some point, but most fans haven’t heard of them at all, let alone seen them. There were visions of a retooled LOB, getting some uber-athletes in there to take things back over the top. And with that bubble burst, people are getting frustrated. Ignorance leads to frustration which leads to anger.

    And I’m 100% in that bracket. I’ve seen some Pocic, but that’s mainly just from watching Fournette. Seen a little bit of Darboh, but nowhere near enough to have really wanted him. The other cats? Absolutely no idea about them, and that’s probably why I’m still feeling not great about this.

    • BobbyK says:

      I think they absolutely are swinging for greatness with McDowell. He’s going to be a bust and out of the league in 4-5 years or he’s going to be a great player. I don’t think there’s much of a middle ground with him. I think that’s swinging for the fences.

      I feel better with the McDowell pick since they traded down twice (and added 4 picks to do it). If they had taken him at #26 – I wouldn’t feel as good about it, especially with TJ Watt still on the board.

      We need an improved OL. The line needed more talent. I’m fine with Pocic if he turns out. I know/knew nothing about him before we took him. I only paid attention to DBs, LBs, DL, and the high end OL (like Lamp) prior to this draft. The strange thing with him is they are calling him a tackle, but his arms aren’t long. Doesn’t stop Joe Thomas though.

      The other guys could be Kris Durham types or KJ Wright types. We don’t know. I’m not going to hate on a pick by being uninformed. I like having lots of picks. A few of these guys are going to pan out. A few will bust. That’s the way it is. The more you pick, the better your chances. I like it.

      • C-Dog says:

        I think McDowell is all ceiling, and imo, I think he’s going to be fine here in Seattle. Great pick.

        • Ishmael says:

          Probably true on McDowell. Thing I’ve been reminding myself is that he’s incredibly young, really is just a kid. Lot of upside if they can get him switched on.

      • PDXBen says:

        Yep – with our 1st pick (whether that pick comes in rd 1 or 2) in the draft we swing for the fences with athleticism/unique traits (Ifedi with his size, Irvin with his pure athletecism and speed, and Harvin and Graham are physical freaks we trade for with our 1st pick, PRich was/does have elite speed). Then, until about and through rd 4 we pick solid players, and then start taking fliers on physical upside again starting about the 5th or 6th rd until the end. This is a generalization and you could argue with exceptions here and there but it seems like this is their MO.

    • Volume12 says:

      We absolutely have discussed Shaq Griffin, Delano Hill, Amarah Carbon. Just extensively. Although Griffin somewhat.

      There’s been some chatter on Jones here and there.

      Pocic was a big over look for whatever reason.

      • Volume12 says:


      • Ishmael says:

        Haha yeah, I figured you meant not extensively. And that’s kind of my point though, if we only talked about them a bit here – most Hawks fans won’t have at all.

      • BobbyK says:

        Pocic was ignored because of his TEF numbers, imo.

      • Kenny Sloth says:


        Was the reason we overlooked both Jones and Pocic IMO

        Pocic’s tape was great and I only watched a tiny bit of Naz Jones, but he is an obvious fit at 3 tech. They like those tall guys there

        • Greg Haugsven says:

          His 2.81 isn’t bad though. Seahawks like explosive and versatile. Pocic is defiantly versatile

        • HI Hawk says:

          I came away unimpressed by Pocic’s tape. He gets pushed back far too often for my liking. The Florida and Alabama games were very bad for him. He needs to get stronger for sure and he needs to get his butt down and stop letting guys under his pads.

          • Ed R says:

            I thought the same thing, frequently gives up ground on both run and pass plays. Maybe they play him at RT, he’ll be going against smaller players, may help him hold his ground better.

            • Kevin says:

              Pocic hasn’t given up a QB hit or sack in over a year

              • HI Hawk says:

                The video suggests otherwise. In the Florida game and in the Auburn game, his guy glided right by him with quickness and power and sacked the QB. Perhaps there was a penalty or reason the statistics weren’t logged, but he got straight embarrassed by Adams a few times in the Auburn game. Florida wasn’t any better. Alabama was even worse. His QB took some big hits from his assignment as well. Maybe he was better at other positions, but he was bad against NFL d-linemen at Center.

        • Dave says:

          For 6’6″, Naz plays with great leverage in his highlight tape.

    • CptRon says:

      I get why people aren’t feeling great either, we all looked around and saw players destined for greatness that were passed on. But taking a step back now and looking at the picks they all make perfect sense when you look at the Seahawks.

      McDowell – That interior rusher that we have been trying to find for years (hopefully, but a really high ceiling and really low floor)
      Pocic – Not the instant starter that we all wanted but he can possibly COMPETE at any position on the line from what I understand. Its all about competition and versatility on the line this year.
      Griffin – Is he already the second most talented corner on the roster? I would argue he just might be.
      Hill – OK this one was a bit odd but we needed a backup safety, PC/JS said he can possibly back up both spots and play a little nickel. Hopefully he replaces McDougal in a year and be CHEAPER
      Jones – Takes McDaniels spot and will be a young and CHEAP player for years
      Darboh – Replaces Kearse next year at the latest at a CHEAP price

      One of the reasons JS talked about a possible Richard Sherman trade was because of the cap health. Replacing the need to have McDaniel, McDougal and Kearse on the roster next years saves what, 5-6 million or so? If Griffin replaces Lane it helps the cap even more. This draft makes sense in that regard.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      We got so many uber athletes tho

      • AlaskaHawk says:

        I like the draft overall. My disappoint lays in the area that the Seahawks could have rebuilt the secondary with their first two picks. RIght now the defense can’t get off the field and opposing teams pass freely on the Seahawks. They need some secondary players (beside Sherman and the two safeties) that strikes fear in opponents hearts. Land and Shead do not strike fear in anyone. Plus our two safeties have been injured as of late. So instead of taking the nearest thing to a starter in the first/second rounds, they chose to take other players.

        Now the picks they made are fine, just emphasizing the line instead of secondary. No guarantees on the success of their later picks. Half will be gone by end of preseason. I hope they do get some use out of cornerback and two safeties they picked. We just know from statistics that they would have had lock down players if they had chosen King and Obi.

        Instead they have lock down players for defensive line – if he learns how to hand fight. He only has one move, a swim move to the right. And a flexible offensive linemen whose position is yet to be determined. Though there are two tackle spots open for anyone with abilities.

        My disappointment isn’t in the players they have chosen It is in the missed opportunity to have two starting secondary.

  2. jujus says:


    A 20 year old Calias Campbell. We have stressed this for years, and have said how important this is, he SO UNIQUE.

    People had the DB Blinders on but anyone watching last years Defense know that qbs killed us stepping up in the pocket.

    Malik is the best interior defensie player in the draft and all you need to do is believe in the coaching ability to develop this 20 year old man who cant even drink yet.

  3. Overtime says:

    I think it is awesome that PC/JS were able to move back and parlay four extra picks while still coming away with Malik McDowell. McDowell should be a stud. I like the Pocic pick, also. It is not often you see a 6’6″ center that can play tackle and now the Seahawks have two of them. That is a huge advantage. JS talked at the presser about how Pocic is worth 2 1/2 players because of his versatility to play every position. Well done, guys!

    Oh, and they did a pretty good job of planting the seed of Seahawk interest in Bolles, too. That kept the internet from looking for other linemen that might fit later in the draft.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Yeah, especially Jacksonville. JS played his hand well and they panicked and handed us a freebie.

      • jujus says:

        feels good to finally fleece these guys, felt like we were having mercy on gus in the past.

    • PDXBen says:

      This flexibility might allow them to carry only 10 O-linemen instead of 11. Another roster spot for an extra DB for different sub packages or a DT for rotation to keep everybody fresh. I’ll the picks make sense after thinking about them and looking at the roster. We kinda all knew the positions they wanted to stock…I just mis-guessed the rounds and players they used to address these needs.

  4. Derron James says:

    We need Carroll Phillips

  5. Volume12 says:

    Love ya B-Dawk, but shut up!

  6. BobbyK says:

    How would my draft compare to what they did:

    1. TJ Watt, OLB/DE
    2. Chidobe Awuzie, CB
    3. Cordrea Tankersley, CB
    3. Dorian Johnson, OL
    3. Nathan Peterman, QB

    I wouldn’t have extra picks only have two more picks, although I would have hoped to have been able to trade down with one of the third round picks. I wouldn’t have traded away the opportunity to take Watt or Awuzie though.

  7. Myfanwy365 says:

    Who do we reckon with the first pick today? TE maybe, SAM?

    Can someone ask Stanger, he’s apparently been getting all his picks correct since August

    • Sea Mode says:


      Kittle stands out to me for sure. Replaces Brandon Williams.

    • Volume12 says:

      Right? As if all those guys haven’t been discussed here too. Its in the archives.

    • CptRon says:

      I would think Kittle is high on the list to help prepare for next year. How about Vince Beigel though, thats the guy I keep coming back to

  8. Sea Mode says:

    Just to choose a favorite, I think I’d like to see QB Dobbs to Seattle here.

    Seems unlikely since we didn’t hear of any reported meetings or anything. Maybe Chad Kelly later on is more likely at this point. But if there were ever anyone clean enough that they could hide their interest in him like they did with Pocic, it would be Dobbs for sure.

    Lastly, a dark horse option I think could make a lot of sense: trade our R4 pick for a 2018 R3. No comp picks coming in to boost our capital next year. Would love to have that in our pocket for next year.

  9. Yesh says:

    Several players still alive: Howard Wilson, Kittle, Dorian Johnson, Desmond King. Would be thrilled with any of those selections at 112

  10. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I think they got cute not trading up for Obi. Or not getting a swap of R2 picks for Lynch.

    Either way, I have hard time believing they really wanted Pocic + Hall instead of Obi.

  11. Volume12 says:

    That’s a GB pick if there ever was one.

  12. Ed says:

    There goes Biegel

  13. Derron James says:

    bye to biegel lmao

  14. Poko says:


  15. Darth12er says:

    I’ve been super disappointed with the NFL networks coverage this year. Late round 3, I finally went back to espn. And they actually talked about a Seahawk pick for more than 20 seconds

    • Volume12 says:

      Me too. And they’re usually so much better than the mother ship.

    • HI Hawk says:

      They talk about every pick, so yes ESPN is far superior this year.

      • CLB says:

        Completely agree. Recorded both ESPN and NFL drafts, and ESPN went over our picks. NFL network skipped them 2-3 times, on pick 90 or so they kept going back to the D’onta Foreman pick, asking him to name people in his house for a few minutes instead of going over other picks, also showing picks and the draft from 1960 instead of talking about this year’s picks. Or they’d go to a commercial and skip several recaps of picks, and just start up a few picks later, seems like it coincided with our picks at least twice.

  16. jujus says:

    PISS gb is such a thorn in our side taking my fav pick

  17. C-Dog says:

    Dang those pesky Packers took Biegel.

  18. relaxxin says:

    Desmond King, IOWA please.

  19. Derron James says:

    I tbh like Carrol Phillips more than Biegel

  20. icb12 says:

    Really like what the Hawks did in Free Agency.

    Underwhelmed by the draft thus far. I feel like other teams got better… Hawks so far are merely staying the same.

    Granted- they already were very good so the need to get better isn’t quite as strong– but I personally don’t see why you don’t just take King at 31 and call it a day. And Pocic ahead of Awuzie is a mind bender for me.

    Enjoy the day gents.. this is where PC/JS make their hay. Should be fun.

    • Mike B. says:

      Missing out on both Ramczyk and King made me physically ill. Once I watched more film on McDowell I ended up feeling much better about that pick.

      I wonder if they weren’t able to–or just didn’t try to–trade up in the second round. That seemed to make a lot of sense.

  21. Derron James says:

    Vikings got their 1 tech.

  22. Ed says:

    Jax goes Dobbs?

  23. Poko says:

    I feel GB get a ring.

  24. Volume12 says:

    Anyone think we add a 5th somehow today?

  25. Derron James says:

    don’t take kittle please lol

  26. Volume12 says:

    Would Seattle add TE Jake Butt? Another Michigan guy?

  27. Derron James says:

    oh wow

  28. Volume12 says:

    Jags are loaded at wide out.

  29. Ishmael says:

    “@JaredStanger Do you think you have changed how PCJS drafts? Almost like you know them so well they change their mind.

    Jared Stanger Retweeted Brett Wise
    Like, not to be an egomaniac, but I wonder about that.”


  30. Derron James says:

    don’t be shocked if seattle trades back, although I see a TE, LB, OL or maybe even a nickel with the pick.

  31. Volume12 says:

    Would Seattle go with another O-lineman here?

  32. BradCanuck says:

    After further evaluation (and reading stuff from folks much smarter than I), I love our draft so far. We drafted a lot of really young fellas from pro-style systems at a lower salary cap cost who can be coached up.

    Pre-draft we’ve already improved our Oline, particular back-up safety) and linebacker. This is the icing!

  33. Mike B. says:

    PLEASE be Kittle. Or another DB.

  34. Volume12 says:

    Did Rich just say a have a 5th?

  35. Derron James says:

    This suspense is killing me

  36. Volume12 says:

    Brian Allen maybe?

  37. Derron James says:

    Love this pick go seattle!!!

  38. Volume12 says:

    Trev, there’s your boy!

    Great pick. Stud!

  39. Derron James says:

    Center Fielder short arms but love this pick!

  40. C-Dog says:

    Tedric Thompson! I thought they’d grab a Buff

  41. Volume12 says:

    Delano Hill sounds like he’s gonna be in the running for nickel.

    • Hawks22Fun says:

      I had ZERO clue who he was, but his highlights look super!

      He hits the crap out of people, tackles well, and seems to cover nice…

      I’ll take Hill!!

    • Nick says:

      Sticky tackler man. Amazing technique.

  42. jujus says:

    FREE SAFETY!!! Tedric thopmson

  43. Mike B. says:

    Tedric Thompson! Great pick. Very underrated.

  44. Derron James says:

    Im thinking we get a Te then some competition at Buffalo or nickel in the 6th

  45. Trevor says:

    Finally a pick I love!

    Thompson is a ball hawk, great special teamer and another candidate to play that big nickel spot and back up Earl.

    He was the leader in that loaded Colorado secondary

  46. Ed says:

    I hope they trade up and get Kittle or Butt. Need TE. Wilson and Graham probably gone after next year.

  47. Sea Mode says:

    Love his instincts and ball skills! Thought they would pass because of his speed though, but I guess not.

    Woo hoo, I like it!

    • Ishmael says:

      He plays faster than his tested speed IMO. Quicker in pads. Genuine ball hawk as well, 7 interceptions and 16 PBUs last season. Stoked with this pick, really happy.

      • Hawk Eye says:

        a good match for Hill since they say he plays slower than his speed….

      • hawkdawg says:

        The real question to me is whether he is fast enough with good enough anticipation to play the single-high look we like. Because if not, our defense’s scheme changes if Earl is out. Terrell had the speed, but not the fearless, fierce confidence….

  48. Ishmael says:

    We got Tedric?? F**K YEAH. Love that kid!

  49. C-Dog says:

    Seattle’s next gen LOB now includes outside CB, SS, and now FS. Love the way they used the depth of this draft. Love it.

  50. Overtime says:

    They like Pierre Desir, also. Thompson adds depth and competition.

  51. Sea Mode says:

    *High five’s Trev*

    • Trevor says:

      For sure I did not think they would consider him because of measurables but glad they did.

      He will make the squad as a great special teamer to start.

      With Mcdougal, Hall and Thonpson we went from no Safety depth to lots!

  52. KD says:

    Right off the bat, Seahawks select Tedric Thompson. Love it

  53. Trevor says:

    I still think we take a Huskie at some point. Perhaps Daniels or Mathis

  54. BobbyK says:

    7th oldest defense with some aging superstars loads up with 5 defensive players in the first 111 picks in the draft. Needed to be done. I like it.

    • jujus says:

      I didnt think we would be able to stockpile so many picks but I am happy that we are following what some of us saw as the needs DEFENSE x7

  55. Frank says:

    Holy shit tremendous draft.

    I haven’t felt this good on draftday since Jones and Springs.

  56. Sea Mode says:

    Run on safeties. Who’s next? Montae Nicholson?

  57. Poko says:

    I like this guy!

  58. Mike says:

    Look at those db’s flying off the board…

  59. Volume12 says:

    I’m lowkey liking this Washington draft. Has McCloughan’s fingerprints all over it.

  60. Mike B. says:

    Three-years stats (2014-2016) for Tedric Thompson:

    TACKLES: 158
    ASSISTS: 24
    CATCH% AGAINST: 50.7% (just 40% in 2016)
    INT: 13
    PASSER RATING VS.: 45.2 (just 21.3 in 2016)

    That’s some production. He also played well vs. Huskies in the Pac-12 championship game.

  61. Derron James says:

    I really want carroll phillips

  62. Sea Mode says:

    @RapSheet 7m7 minutes ago

    The #Broncos have made a trade. They sent RB Kapri Bibbs and a 5th to SF for a 4th in 2018

  63. Volume12 says:

    Cards got a damn steal.

  64. Derron James says:

    Great pick they are stocking up.

  65. Ishmael says:

    How loaded is the Jags WR corps btw?

    Fournette is going to demand 8 in the box, and now they have Robinson, Lee, Hurns, and Westbrook? If Bortles wasn’t such an absolute deadbeat, they’d be a genuinely scary team.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      They had to upgrade their offense anyway. Now they’ve given Bortles every chance to succeed. If he can’t it won’t be because he’s on an island there.

  66. Cysco says:

    So through seven picks, I can’t point at a single player taken that won’t be a quality contributor to this team going forward. That’s just crazy. And, they’re not done.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      I think some will have a hard time making the 53

      • jujus says:


        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          Hill and Darboh

          • Magmatizer says:

            Hill maybe, if only because we already have safety depth. I personally think that with his physicality and consistent tackling he could become a solid Big Nickel. Darboh I think has a very good shot to make the roster. He is multi-faceted: Runs good routes and glides into his breaks, snatches passes away from his frame with regularity, and gets invested as a blocker in the run game. I think of his as a Kearse+, already possessing the attributes of what Jermaine should be for the Hawks given his role.

  67. jujus says:

    We have to be looking at LB, PC specifically mentioned it… Gotta be The Oklahoma guy or the colorado LB right? Cant recall names

  68. Kenny Sloth says:

    Man Thompson is a helluva pick.

    Love McDowell, Pocic, and Darboh as well

  69. Derron James says:

    Arizona is having a great draft, Seattle is gonna have lots of competition down the line but we have gotten a great haul as well.

    • Hawk Eye says:

      yeah, I like their draft. 2 playmakers on D, potentially good wr and a decent guard.
      I also like Washington and Dallas draft
      But I also like the Hawks draft because I think JS and PC know a lot more than I do about football:)

      but it all needs 2 years to see who really did well and who just drafted good names

  70. C-Dog says:

    Whatcha’ll think about Tedric maybe winning out that nickel corner spot in addition to backing up Earl? Go Hawks

  71. Derron James says:

    Lets see how trash the rams pick is gonna be

  72. Mike B. says:

    Good pick by Cincy. I can’t believe Lawson fell that far. He was one of the most productive pass-rushers in 2016.

  73. Ishmael says:

    I just want everyone to remember that Tedric has a brother called Cedric. It’s legit my favourite thing about him.

  74. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I’m not unhappy about Pocic, but we should be clear that he’s a consolation for missing out on Obi. He was the fall back, not the target.

    Personally, I’d rather have traded 58 + one of the R3 comp picks to move ahead of OAK and take Obi (+ Asiata in R4) than Pocic + Hall.

    • Frank says:

      Why do you think they wanted Obi? It sounds to me like Schneider’s telling the truth, about wanting to move up for Pocic.

      • CHawk Talker Eric says:

        PC’s reaction at the Combine – he could barely contain his excitement for Obi’s 40yd. The +4 meetings with Obi. PC’s reaction in the war room yesterday – he looked pretty upset when OAK took Obi.

        • Mike B. says:

          It’s possible that they wanted to trade up a couple times in the 2nd round but couldn’t find partners.

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            Good point. Or the price was too steep.

            • Volume12 says:

              I think the reaction was to Griffin. Who is a freak athlete. It looked liked he said ‘4.4?’ As in 4.4 flat and the footage showed a delayed reaction.

              Who knows. I’m probably way off base anyways.

        • C-Dog says:

          I think it’s possible, after meeting with Obi four times, they might have been more swayed to grab McDowell knowing the depth at safety in the draft is ridiculous, and they could grab a couple good ones later. OL, not so much, and Pocic was they target after McDowell

          • Volume12 says:

            Rumor is, Meek spent the longest amount of time there as a VMAC visitor.

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            I don’t think it was “either-or” for McDowell and Obi. They could’ve have had both. Either they just didn’t want Obi, or they misjudged his draft range.

            It’s not like they haven’t been there before. In 2012 they almost took RW in R2 because they weren’t certain they could get him a round later. They didn’t take him in R2 or trade up from R3, and still got him. I think it was a similar situation with Obi, except they just didn’t get him.

            • AlaskaHawk says:

              I don’t see how any team could expect Obi to fall to bottom of second round. If he did that would have been great for some team. But as a potential late first rounder – as was King – it is surprising that he dropped as far as he did.

  75. Derron James says:

    oops i take back the rams pick being trash ;(

  76. Mike B. says:

    A bit surprised they haven’t taken a TE yet, but there are plenty of very good TEs with underwhelming production who can be had late in the draft or as UFAs.

  77. Derron James says:

    great pick just don’t ruin him

  78. Derron James says:

    Lol that sucks they are really stocking up on offense, its okay we got Darboh

  79. Volume12 says:

    That’s gonna be a fun matchup twice a year. Looking forward to those battles.

  80. Sea Mode says:

    Noooo. My favorite to the Rams.

    Finally they make a good pick.

  81. Mike B. says:

    When will the Rams address o-line? This stable of receivers won’t be effective if Goff is getting battered and bruised.

    • jujus says:

      No one they pick will be able to slow down our nascar package, they better improve that running game if they want a chance at all.

    • Volume12 says:

      Good point.

      Did they even sign a FA there?

      You’d think they’d be building around Gurley to take pressure off Goff.

  82. Derron James says:

    mack hollins

  83. Dawgma says:

    Man, I’d kind of love this draft if they had just spent that Hill pick to move up and take Obi. Just so damn dumb to sit and wait hoping he falls when the backup plan is to spend a pick you could just trade to get up three spots and take him.

    Don’t love McDowell either, but at least I get the intent to take a shot on a top 15 caliber interior rusher with a low pick. If he busts he busts. But DAMN it was frustrating just watching them sit and miss Obi when a minor tradeup just a couple of slots would have done it.

    And, of course, we could be totally wrong. Obi could never turn into anything and Malik turns it on full blast and in three years no one even remembers. That’s what makes the draft so frustrating.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Totally agree

    • jujus says:

      History told us that the value of CB in the early picks was not something they liked. This entire offseason of huskie db / Obi hype was all pure conjecture of completely abandoning their previous habits/pattern.

      Keep a more open mind next time.

    • Ehurd1021 says:

      They had the capital to move up and take Obi if they wanted him, they didn’t. I really don’t believe he was rated that high on their board.

      Something if off about the kid to be honest. He’s got the size of a strong safety but he’s afraid to hit and doesn’t play true to his size (lacks physicality); has the speed to play FS but lacks ball skills and didn’t have great range.

      • CHawk Talker Eric says:

        Doesn’t mean they didn’t really like him. In 2012 they didn’t take RW in R2 or trade up from R3. They just waited for him to fall to them in R3 and he did. I think this was the same situation. The difference is Obi didn’t last.

        • Ehurd1021 says:

          Could be, we’ll never know.

          I know that most teams who are very high on players at a position of need will trade up for that talent especially if they have the capital. That didn’t happen.

      • AlaskaHawk says:

        before you get into this revisionist history of Obi, lets look at what he did in college.

        Walters had him as third ranking safety. They said
        Melifonwu totaled 118 tackles with three passes broken up and four interceptions in 2016. As a junior in 2015, he had 88 tackles with two interceptions and five passes broken up.

        I think the Seahawks could use a secondary player like Obi. In fact just about everyone on our board thought so.

  84. Volume12 says:

    Best gunner in the NFL. Calling it now. Mack Hollins that is.

  85. Mike B. says:

    Man, I’ve had enough of this horribly off-key Eagles fight song. Ugh.

  86. Derron James says:

    Bears are soon underwhelming IMO.

  87. Ehurd1021 says:

    Could Tedric possibly be a 2nd cornerback opposite of Sherm?

    Obviously, he’s going to back up Earl and play FS, but he has the ball skills, speed, hips, and coverage skill to play corner as well. He’s 6’1 too so obviously he has the length PC is looking for as well. Great selection.

  88. Spireite Seahawk says:

    Die Eagle’s Die that song should be called as I lost my will to live.

    • jujus says:

      New rule if you take longer then 20 seconds to make a pick or you start singing we send United airlines after you

  89. Curt says:

    Would love to get your impression of Seattle’s draft so far. As just a fan with no drafting knowledge, I’m not impressed. From the outside with only the eye test, I see our division foes getting better and we seem to be standing pat.
    Always trusted in Pete/John but the last 2/3 drafts the rest of the league seems to be catching up to us with impact young players.

    • Derron James says:

      I actually really like the draft, we got our interior rusher that we were so desperate for, Pocic is versatile and can play all spots on the line and I think is a day 1 starter, Shaq Griffin is an outside corner that competes hard and is fast and will be our outside corner, Delano Hill is our backup SS who can compete at nickel/ buffalo, Naz Jones is our young big stout DT that is honestly an upgrade over McDaniel, Amara Darboh is the future Kearse replacement and will play some snaps, and Tedric Thompson is Earl Thomas backup, and may play some nickel. What a Haul!

      • Overtime says:

        I agree. It feels like the 2010 draft. Everyone was disappointed then that we did not select Taylor Mays and instead had to settle for Earl Thomas. And who is this Chancellor kid in the 5th round? Total waste of a pick. He is too big for Safety.

      • Curt says:

        Thanks, I’m feeling much better about not just drafting projects but actual impact players to step in and help. 👍

    • Ishmael says:

      Not having a go at you, but why aren’t you impressed? Is it because you haven’t seen/heard much about the players we’ve picked, or you have seen them and you don’t like the tape?

      • Hawk Eye says:

        i like the type of players they drafted and trust that 2 or 3 will be real good, 2 or 3 will be JAG or a little better.
        Interior pass rush was their biggest need on D and is the hardest to find, with CB and back up safety’s next and a potential starter on the O line, along with a Wr who can replace Kearse and/or Richardson next year
        check (if they can motivate him)
        check ( i like that they picked a guy who is technically sound as opposed to athletically gifted and no idea what he is doing)

  90. vrtkolman says:

    Thompson is our best pick of the draft so far. Awesome value.

  91. Alex says:

    That is a sweet pick with Thompson.

  92. Greg Haugsven says:

    I’d like to see a trade up sometime here.

  93. Nick says:

    Great breakdown of Tedric’s game:

  94. Misfit74 says:

    Interesting to see how the two Safeties are deployed. Can either be a Buffalo, or are they more traditional ‘backups’ and potential future type players for Earl and Kam? They each profile well as one aggressor and one more of a pass defender.

  95. Nick says:

    Last night I spent an hour watching Delano Hill, here were things I noticed:

    -I didn’t see one missed tackle. Always wrapped up and put the ball carrier down.
    -Excellent tackling/pursuit angles in open space
    -Is a bit stiff in coverage
    -A bit slow to react on running plays

  96. Mike B. says:

    If the Hawks take one more CB in rounds 6 or 7, who do you think it’d be?

    My vote is for Channing Stribling from Michigan. Brian Allen from Utah is another possibility, though maybe as a UFA.

    • Misfit74 says:

      I wanted 111 to be Brian Allen…just to make sure we get him. I REALLY want him on our team at some point.

      • Mike B. says:

        Considering how the rest of the NFL is going more with the type of long Seahawky CB who used to last until round 5 or later, it’s possible that neither Stribling nor Hill will even be there at 6/187.

    • HI Hawk says:

      Both work for me! Also, Jeremy Cutrer or Desmond King (but maybe this draft proves they don’t believe the Nickle only type of CB).

  97. HI Hawk says:

    I’m sad to see Eddie Jackson go, but the pick of Tedric Thompson made that a forgone conclusion. Thompson, like Jackson seems to be the playmaking, coverage type though – so I’m jacked about that pick!

    Very pleased with L.O.B 2.0 overall:
    Shaq Griffin could be the steal of the draft, this coaching staff is going to unlock his full potential.
    Delano Hill is a box safety that will light people up, and as sure of a tackler as this draft had to offer.
    Tedric Thompson is a deep safety with great instincts, he just finds the ball.

    • Volume12 says:

      Shaq is my favorite pick.

      Love the fact when he does get beat he doesn’t get bothered by it.

      He’ll be a fan favorite quickly. Gigantic personality. Wants to be a motivational speaker when his career is over.

      Next Janoris Jenkins IMO.

      • HI Hawk says:

        So will Delano Hill. His brand of football is old school rugged, just like Kam. No more drag down, catch tackling from our backup SS.

  98. Derron James says:

    good pick niners if he is committed

  99. Misfit74 says:

    Joe Williams, nice player for SF. Speed Score maven. Shanahan’s (poor man’s) Tevin Coleman.

  100. Volume12 says:

    9ers stay killing the draft. Very impressed by new GM John Lynch.

    • C-Dog says:

      No kidding. I think the Browns, 49ers, and Ravens are killing this draft.

      • Volume12 says:

        Redskins too. As a sleeper.

      • Mike B. says:

        If the 49ers can get Cousins for 2018, I could see them going .500 that year. This year, 4 or 5 wins seems like their ceiling. Their trajectory is reminiscent of the Hawks from 2008-2010.

  101. C-Dog says:

    Like what the 49ers are doing a lot. Joe Williams could be a steal.

  102. nichansen01 says:

    Tedric Thompson, great great pick.

  103. Derron James says:

    Great pick Ravens really winning the draft lol.

  104. Ehurd1021 says:

    Who is the starting RCB this year opposite of Sherman?

  105. Derron James says:

    Bye Nicholson

  106. Volume12 says:

    What pick was WR Kenny Golladay?

  107. Misfit74 says:

    Nfl’s brief on Thompson “… Thompson is a rangy, ball-hawking safety who should be a subpackage addition to a team that managed just 11 interceptions in ’16. –Mark Dulgerian”

    Subpackage addition – I like that idea. Big nickle starter maybe?

    • John_s says:

      One of the ESPN reporters said that some teams took him off the board because he’s had 4 concussions.

    • C-Dog says:

      Going to be really interesting to see how that all shakes out. One thing is for sure, Seattle won’t get caught with a lack of depth in that defensive backfield this year

  108. Derron James says:

    I predict the rams take O line now, if they take another receiver or tight end I’m gonna die.

  109. Derron James says:

    I do like the pick he is good.

  110. Volume12 says:

    4th rounder? Surprising.

    Very happy for him. E. Washington is the local team here in Spokane. And didn’t the Rams get Kupp too?

    • Derron James says:


      • jujus says:

        I really liked Ebukam seems a bit rich but he has pass rrush hand moves naturally can only get better and a great athelete.

    • Mike B. says:

      That does seem a bit early. But damn does he play like a beast.

    • Misfit74 says:

      Problem is that the Rams have 3 slot receivers as starters. Austin, Woods, and Kupp. Nobody from that group has proven capability to win on the outside. I don’t know what they’re doing.

  111. Derron James says:

    nice pick

  112. jujus says:

    Browns take our kr/pr slot corner Howard Wilson

  113. Misfit74 says:

    Nice picks by CLE continue. Howard Wilson

  114. sdcoug says:

    As far as adding another CB, don’t forget Xavier Coleman – Portland St. as a priority FA

  115. Derron James says:

    I sure hope we can get carroll phillips, a QB ( i think we get one UDFA), or Brandon wilson.

  116. Ishmael says:

    Holy ish. You guys see some of these tweets about Dede Westbrook? Jags are welcome to him… These are from Albert Breer

    So @McShay13 just said new Jags WR Dede Westbrook is the only player he’s ever heard of being kicked out of a 15-minute combine interview.

    And then, there’s this text just now from an AFC area scout on Dede Westbrook: “No thoughts. It is what it is. He’s a degenerate.”

  117. Sea Mode says:

    You know who else I think has done exactly what they needed to in the draft? The Panthers.

    Christian McCaffrey
    Curtis Samuel
    Taylor Moton
    Daeshon Hall

    A steal in Hall and then defending that option offense is gonna be crazy hard.

    With their last three picks, if they can get a deep threat WR to stretch the field with Samuel (K.D. Cannon?), a LB to replace A.J. Klein, and a FB to replace Mike Tolbert, as well as their young corners keep developing, I’d say they’ll soon be back in the playoffs.

  118. Misfit74 says:

    Bengals have had a good draft.

  119. Mike B. says:

    Josh Malone is a great talent. Good pick.

  120. Seahawk in LA says:

    Ravens drafting a lot of SDB favorites: Humphrey, Bowser, Siragusa, Wormley

  121. Volume12 says:

    Raiders got a steal there.

    I liked Sharpe. They needed a RT. That O-line is stacked.

  122. Gray says:

    Has anyone seen the video of PC/JS calling Tedric? Gotta love that pick.

  123. Derron James says:

    TBH every team except the Bears and rams are having a good draft lmao.

  124. Derron James says:

    Pats keep making good picks

  125. Mike B. says:

    Interesting that Peterman, Dobbs, and Kaaya are still on the board. One of those guys (in particular Peterman) could be the Dak Prescott of 2017.

  126. Volume12 says:

    So in no specific order for Seattle. QB, LB, TE, FB?

    No idea what that other 1 could be. BPA?

  127. Volume12 says:

    Pumphrey and Sproles together fascinates me.

  128. Volume12 says:

    That tattoo is cringe. Eww.

  129. Mike B. says:

    So who’ll be Seattle’s choice for a late-late round or UFA QB?

    My vote is for Penn’s Alek Torgerson, though Jerod Evans could be an option.

  130. Derron James says:

    ryan switzers is a mixture of edleman and cole beasley

  131. nichansen01 says:

    How on earth is Carlos Watkins still on the board.

  132. Mike B. says:

    Cole Beasley 2.0.

    I’d much rather have T.J. Logan, who can run *and* catch.

  133. Derron James says:

    Bad news

  134. Misfit74 says:

    Good nugget from Profootballfocus:

    Round 4, pick No. 111 overall: Tedric Thompson, S, Colorado

    Tedric Thompson is a versatile back-end defender capable of pressing the slot, as well as playing the deep-third in Seattle’s cover-3 scheme. He posted the highest coverage grade in the nation last year among FBS safeties, as he picked off seven passes and broke up another seven. — Josh Liskiewitz, @PFF_Josh

    • Mike B. says:

      I thought that they might grab Thompson in the 3rd round. Wonderful they were able to get him in the 4th.

  135. nichansen01 says:

    Nico Siragusa to Baltimore is the best pick of the first round. I’d take the ravens class over the browns. That’s incredible.

  136. Volume12 says:

    GB has a decent little RB stable going on.

  137. Volume12 says:

    I’m very surprised that Asiata, Kayaa, Hodges (kind of), are still left.

    • Mike B. says:

      There’s so much value left. It’s painful not having native 4th and 5th round picks this year.

  138. Mike B. says:

    Tremendous value pick by the Steelers with Dobbs. I’m a believer.

  139. jujus says:

    steelers snipe my qb josh dobbs off the board

  140. nichansen01 says:

    Pats reach on wise

  141. Sea Mode says:

    If the Hawks wanted Dobbs, I’m sure they knew it would have to have been at the top of R4.

    The thing is, I think they like Boykin. And if you spend a R4 pick on Dobbs and he doesn’t beat out Boykin, it becomes (maybe) that much harder to cut him right away. Idk, just a thought.

    • Overtime says:

      I compared the two and thought Boykin was better than Dobbs. Still I wanted Dobbs for competition. Now we will need to hope for Evans or Russell.

      • Ishmael says:

        Agreed. Boykin is really underrated on here, he gives you a chance to win as a backup. Better player than Dobbs IMO.

        • icb12 says:

          Yeah. Agreed he’s talented.

          But just exactly how much off field BS do you want to put up with your backup QB??

  142. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    IND with Zach Banner in R4?!?


  143. Derron James says:

    harlow over asiata?

  144. Volume12 says:

    Wasn’t Harlow a local VMAC visit or workout?

  145. nichansen01 says:

    Some teams are having stellar stellar drafts. Some seem to have no idea what they’re doing.



    Not so good:


    Notice anything?

  146. nichansen01 says:

    Lots of reaches in this round.

    • HI Hawk says:

      I don’t think reaches exist in round 4 and beyond. Teams that are behind you may only have one more pick, so a 7th round value could easily get snached up in round 4. You have to draft the players you like, while you have the chance.

  147. Volume12 says:

    Dorian Johnson slipped due to a liver condition he’s had since birth even though his specialist said it wouldnt impact his play.

    I always find this stuff fascinating.

  148. Sea Mode says:

    NFL network getting really sloppy about showing the picks on the screens in the background.

    They were doing so much better than yesterday up until now…

    • Overtime says:

      I think ESPN controls the pace of the announcements. They need time to run their film clips.

      • HI Hawk says:

        ESPN wins this year’s draft coverage by a country mile! Every player and team gets their time.

  149. Derron James says:

    Chiefs made a reach IMO rn

  150. nichansen01 says:

    Bucky Hodges
    Isaac Asiata
    Carlos Watkins
    Carroll Phillips
    George Kittle
    Jake Butt

    All still on the board :0

  151. Misfit74 says:

    Loudest Stadium, my ass, KC

    • HI Hawk says:

      Officially, I believe they took back the record, realistically, we know Seattle is more impactful.

  152. Volume12 says:

    Interesting pick for KC. They needed a longer body at WR.

  153. Overtime says:

    I think the talent has run out. We are into the dead spot in the draft the Schneider talked about. We can come back in R6 for some priority free agents. Maybe Zane Gonzalez is still on the board.

    • Derron James says:

      I disagree with Carroll Phillios Issac Asiata George Kittle Darrell Daniels Jake Butt Hodges there is plenty of options.

  154. Misfit74 says:

    Conley, Chesson the post-Maclin/Smith era

  155. Misfit74 says:

    Raiders and Giants need RBs

    • HI Hawk says:

      Beast Mode is all you need! (kidding) Jalen Richard and Washington were pretty good rookies to compliment Lynch. Any RB they take at this point is going to have a hard time winning a job.

  156. Derron James says:

    giants got there RB

  157. Misfit74 says:

    Another plodder for the Giants, though still a potential upgrade on Perkins. Why don’t they like sub 4.6 guys in NY?

    • Mike B. says:

      Perkins-Gallman seems like a solid if not spectacular 1-2 punch, though neither seems to offer much in pass protection.

  158. Mike B. says:

    I like Gallman. He had a much better 2015 than 2016, but he’s still a top-15 RB in this class.

  159. Misfit74 says:

    Nice pick Jets. Decker type but young and healthy

    • Mike B. says:

      Did you watch the UW-Cal game in 2016? Hansen really struggled vs. UW’s aggressive secondary. He’s still a really solid WR though.

  160. Derron James says:

    I would’ve preferred marlon mack TBH

  161. Derron James says:

    Texans 🙁

  162. C-Dog says:

    Man, Texans got great value with Carlos Watkins there.

  163. Mike B. says:

    Although I prefer NFL Network’s crew (especially their analysts), ESPN’s draft coverage has been more solid this year.

  164. Poko says:

    Is there Caleb Brantley on SEA’s board?
    I like his play.

  165. Derron James says:

    Great pick by the colts.

  166. Volume12 says:

    I’m wondering if Seattle packages like a 6 & 7 to move into the 5th. There’s like 47-48 picks until they’re on the clock again.

  167. Derron James says:

    Screw the 49ers

  168. Derron James says:

    and Denver

    • Ed says:

      Hawks must not have liked him as much. Would be interesting to see how the guys they didn’t pick (that the blog loved) end up doing. If Obi/King/Tankersley/Douglas all ball, I will be a bit bitter.

  169. jujus says:

    With the monster DT’s we already took im not to sad about missing Grover stewart – the colts are doing real good post grigson.

  170. Mike B. says:

    Two great picks there by the Colts to wrap up the 4th.

    Mack is one of the most complete running backs in this class. The Hawks had interest in Grover Stewart, who’s a complete wrecking ball of a DT. Major athleticism for his size.

  171. Volume12 says:

    Seattle did a great job building their possible future on the D-line this year once Bennett and Avril are gone.

    5-tech: ‘Leek’- QJeff
    1-tech: Reed
    3-tech: Jones- QJeff
    LEO: Clark- Marsh (?)

    Can get a nose later or in UDFA possibly. Maybe an EDGE or could get that next year too.

  172. Poko says:

    nice pick

  173. Mike B. says:

    It’s 30 degrees and snowing in Denver. On April 29. Fun!

    Broncos like Jake Butt and they cannot lie.

  174. Volume12 says:

    Man. The 9ers are having the best draft IMO.

  175. Derron James says:

    Screw the niners

  176. nichansen01 says:

    Carlos Watkins is still on the board.

    I wonder what’s up with him?

  177. C-Dog says:

    Outside of the Beathard pick, I really love what the 49ers are doing. Great value with Kittle there.

  178. nichansen01 says:

    How in earth is Bucky Hodges still on the board.

  179. Volume12 says:

    Jets go Kayaa here?

  180. Mike B. says:

    Meanwhile the Falcons’ secondary just keeps getting better. Kazee might be small but he has great coverage skills.

  181. nichansen01 says:

    Blair brown to jags, leggett to jets

  182. Derron James says:

    Run on Te’s

  183. Derron James says:

    Still Hodges and asiata, but I still want carroll phillips.

  184. Mrkarea says:

    Do you think that when the nucleus of the team was still young. The thought process in those drafts was swing for the fences and go for uber SPARQ athletes. Which was a hit or miss approach. Now that the nucleus is getting older the draft philosphy switches to a more conservative approach. Similar to a 401k invest aggressively and in more risky options when you just starting out. As you approach retirement age switch to a more conservative approach. So the focus shifts to replenish and just get solid starters instead of the super star. It would explain how some feel that this draft class is a bit underwhelming.

  185. Coleslaw says:

    Sad to see Kittle go, still like the TEs available. Love Tedric Thompson!! We got our LOB 2.0, we could probably upgrade over Hill eventually at SS, but for all 3rd and 4th rounders? Seahawks are certified jackboiz

  186. nichansen01 says:

    Chargers draft Desmond King. Great pick.

    • HI Hawk says:

      Tough, gritty, grinder who may never be a pro bowler, but he’ll have a 10 year career at least and contribute significantly with big plays.

  187. Mike B. says:

    Having to wait until pick 187 is excruciating. They’re losing out on so many potential contributors. Well, never too early to have a shot or two of Jameson to calm the nerves.

  188. nichansen01 says:

    We should move up for Hodges

  189. nichansen01 says:

    Panthers take corn elder

  190. Volume12 says:

    The Panthers really needed Elder. Kind of a perfect fit.

  191. Mike B. says:

    So many crappy teams have drafted well this year, and the NFL’s dream of parity inches closer to realization. By 2019 we’ll probably see 25 teams finish within 2 wins of .500.

  192. Derron James says:

    Spoiler! Bengals take a position not taken yet

  193. Derron James says:

    Jake elliot is fast lol should be a running back LMAO!

  194. Volume12 says:

    Thought the 1st K off the board would be Gonzalez.

  195. Volume12 says:

    Watch Seattle take a LS in the 7th or something. 😀

    They kinda need one though, huh?

  196. Derron James says:

    Titans took one of my personal favs

  197. C-Dog says:

    If the Seahawks grab Nathan Peterman R6, IMO, that’d be a steal there at QB.

  198. HI Hawk says:

    I am not in any way saying the sky is falling, I still believe in this staff’s ability to find talent everywhere on the team (except OL). That said, I do have a small worry that I’ve been contemplating sharing. Ken Norton and Dan Quinn know as much as anyone about what makes PC’s version of the Cover-3 go. They’ve picked guys that Rob and a lot of other Seahawk-smart people were in love with. How much did the position coaches and coordinators contribute to previous drafts? We all know McCloughan held a lot of influence previously and Washington did well in the draft the last few years. Should we be worried by the list below, and wonder if some of the braintrust responsible for building the team up has left?

    Defensive Picks so far:
    Gareon Conley
    Obi Melifonwu
    Eddie Vanderdoos

    Takk McKinley
    Duke Riley
    Damontae Kazee

    • Derron James says:

      Pete Carroll is a mastermind, he knows the system better than anyone and he will most surely beat the system of the other people.

      • Mike B. says:

        Like he did vs. Atlanta in the divisional playoff game?

        Sorry, couldn’t resist.

        But it’s clear that teams with staff from the Carroll tree are getting smarter and better.

    • BRSeahawks says:

      I don’t think so. Those two were in Seattle when the Seahawks picked the ’13 and ’14 classes. No hindsight: I like the ’15, ’16 and the partials for the ’17 class better than those drafts.

      I think what happens now is:
      1 – Teams studied the way Seahawks draft, just like the Seahawks studied the way Packers and Ravens draft;
      2 – Teams acquired inside information from the way this FO/HC operates (Jaguars, Falcons, Raiders);
      3 – Most of the teams have significantly more draft capital than the Seahawks;
      4 – Seahawks needs to get risky/creative to acquire top end talent on premium positions (Seahawks had to gamble on Clark/McDowell. Falcons and Raiders could draft Mack and Beasley because they just sucked. Jimmy Graham and Percy Harvin trades are good examples too).

      Consequences of that:
      1 – Now WTIII/Byron Maxwell/Jeremy Lane-type prospects are more expensive commodities;
      2 – Teams overpay for our FA;

      Would you bank on John Ross being drafted in the Top 10 if 31 teams didn’t see the mistake they made on passing up Tyler Lockett two years ago?

      • HI Hawk says:

        There are players that are drafted after the Hawks picks that have outperformed them. I know they aren’t going to hit 1.000, but saying that they didn’t have the draft capital of other teams is just untrue. No they couldn’t have gotten Mack or Beasley, but there were good players available in every draft well after 1st round and the Seahawks have been volume drafters for years. They had twice as many picks on day 2 than any other team.

        Maybe the concern should be failure to adapt then, if other teams are out Seahawking the Seahawks, they might have to tweak their system. I mean, constant innovation is absolutely necessary in the current business market, I’m sure that holds true for NFL Franchises as well.

        I don’t think John Ross has a lot to do with Tyler Lockett, DeSean Jackson was a top-15 pick years ago, well before Lockett was a draft prospect, 4.22 didn’t hurt either.

    • C-Dog says:

      Actually didn’t like the Conley pick for the Raiders, and that has nothing to do with his legal issues, don’t think he’s physical enough for what Carroll wants at outside corner, they can have him in round one.

      • Misfit74 says:


      • HI Hawk says:

        Not my favorite player either, he reminds me of another former Raiders mistake – D.J. Hayden. Either way, he could be an All-Pro or a bust, we won’t know for some time. He does fit the profile though.

  199. Mike B. says:

    Jeremy Sprinkle was another very good TE. Good pick there by the Red Pandas.

  200. nichansen01 says:

    I’d love getting a solid long snapper in the seventh. That’s what the seventh round is for.

  201. Derron James says:

    I love Jayon Brown

  202. JimQ says:

    Bold prediction: Potential rd-7 or UDFA?, that the Seahawks have met with/worked out.
    CB-Tyler Williams, completely unranked anywhere, was #1 in FCS in passes defended with 2.1/game.

  203. HI Hawk says:

    Damn! Jayon Brown was my favorite Bobby Wagner backup in the draft!

  204. Derron James says:

    Seattle should just let the rest of the draft come to them like they have been doing.

  205. Mike B. says:

    The late rounds are SO much more fun sans Goodell and with all these different people announcing the picks. The booing gets old quickly, and Goodell is boring as fudge.

  206. Derron James says:

    Great pick a coleman replacement if/when he leaves or something like that

  207. Derron James says:

    I like the cardinals pick

  208. Ishmael says:

    Lott of bad teams have done very well for themselves in this draft. We’re in for a fun season if some of these kids pan out.

  209. Magmatizer says:

    Geez, that backdrop in Arizona looks like a painting!

  210. Mike B. says:

    Brian Hill is good RB insurance in case contract talks with Freeman break down.

  211. Derron James says:

    Not really liking the colts pick

  212. Derron James says:


  213. Mike B. says:

    Looking less and less likely like the Hawks are moving up here. It doesn’t take too much capital at this point to bounce upward 20-30 spots.

  214. Derron James says:

    Browns made a decent pick too

  215. Derron James says:

    Colts did too

  216. Derron James says:

    Bucks doing great too

    • Derron James says:


      • HI Hawk says:

        I knew we should never have drafted our LT from the NBA draft, now NBA teams are coming after football players! That’s really going to increase the importance of drafting the athletic freaks early.

  217. Volume12 says:

    I don’t wanna jinx it, but Udub DT Elijah Qualls is still sitting there too.

    • Derron James says:

      Just noticed.

      • jujus says:

        brah my cat hs longer arms then him he is udfa territory IMO

        purple colored glasses are too thick round these parts

        • HI Hawk says:

          Your cat is cool! How much does he bench? Can he anchor against a double team? If so he might be a good NT in a 3-4, but the Seahawks don’t need him or Qualls after what they did on day 2, not to mention Jarran Reed and Rubin.

  218. Derron James says:

    Whats up with nobody wanting phillips, bills didn’t make a great pick at all could’ve taken phillips

  219. Derron James says:

    Damn you dolphins lol not phillips tho

  220. Magmatizer says:

    I just stopped naming players before our pick, because as soon as I did someone else got them.

  221. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    There goes Asiata

  222. Poko says:

    Good bye Asiata…

  223. Derron James says:

    Please let the fall go for phillips

  224. Overtime says:

    It looks like every team is going to pass on Caleb Brantley due to his DV incident. It is not clear how that will turn out. While we have a lag in the Seahawk action, what would you say to taking a flyer on Brantley with a 7th round pick? His problem seems to be similar to Mixon and Le’El Collins and a few others. In other words, it should blow over eventually.

    • Derron James says:

      Not a fan

    • jujus says:

      i would do it

    • Joshua Smith says:

      La’el Collins!? If Im not mistaken he didnt do anything remotely wrong. He wasnt even involved. Joe Mixon used disproportional force clearly, but was also clearly attacked. Brantley – who knows. Hell ya I would take him though. Kudos to the Browns. He allegedly got caught, think of all the bad stuff some of these other guys have done that we know nothing about.

  225. Derron James says:

    Mel Kiper says we reached for Naz and Hill. I don’t I really liked the timing of the picks.

    • Volume12 says:

      Kiper has been passed over by guys like Pauline, Mayock, even McShsay. I respect what he did for draft fans like us, but its time to hang it up Mel.

      • Volume12 says:

        Now we just need to get Rob on the national scene right?

      • Rob Staton says:

        McShay had SEA drafting McDowell quite often in his mock drafts.

      • Mike B. says:

        Never been a fan of Kiper. NFLN’s analysts are superior–and those guys have real experience in the league.

        • HI Hawk says:

          Potato, potato. They all have a mix of former personnel guys that have been fired, guys who created a career out of being opinionated and entertaining, and former players that may or may not have a clue or watch all the tape. I mean, Shaq is paid to be an NBA analyst. I doubt he could even name the starting lineup for all the teams in the Western conference. At least Kiper knows something about literally 350 players or so every year, he’s more informed than he gets credit for even if he is a blowhard. If he didn’t stick so hard to his own valuation of picks, and just look at the players, he would be much more appreciated for what he does. Mayock is more humble, but he isn’t any more accurate or right, so it really comes down to likability. Actually showing film/talking about the players makes ESPN better though, and they have Louis Riddick.

    • Bayahawk says:

      Mel Kiper was overly critical of where Irvin, Wagner and Wilson were picked in 2012.

      Keep calm and carry on.

  226. Mike B. says:

    Kaaya and Peterman still on the board. Astounding. Same with Bucky Hodges.

  227. Volume12 says:

    Love that Dolphins pick. Hopefully Awsi dogger enjoys him.

  228. Ed says:


  229. the other billy zoom says:

    OK, all in on trade-up for Zane Gonzalez. zoom

  230. Derron James says:

    Asiata is gonna be super good I’m telling you guys right now.

  231. nichansen01 says:

    wow. Carroll Phillips and Bucky Hodges STILL available.

  232. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Man BAL…


    What a haul. Would love that draft for SEA.

    • Derron James says:

      I sure would too, love our haul tho

    • Volume12 says:

      I like it too. A lot. But I feel like they’re missing some outside playmakers for Flacco still.

    • Mike B. says:

      It is a great haul, but their RB and WR core are still weak (and Dixon is suspended first 4 games of 2017). Surprising they haven’t drafted either position yet.

  233. Derron James says:

    Raiders finally get a LB

  234. JimQ says:

    187-TE-Bucky Hodges
    210-DE-Joe Mathis
    226-PK-Zane Gonzales
    249-OT-Jalen Ware
    UDFA’s-A bunch of guys.

  235. Derron James says:

    Carroll Phillips/ K.D. Cannon/ Bucky Hodges/ Bisnowaty/ Qualls/ Gonzalez/ still awaiting

  236. Misfit74 says:

    Just save us one Brian Williams.

    Also, one of Zamora, R. Davis, or Krishawn Hogan. Preferably Zamora, who is better than Malone or Hollins who already went. So shoot me, dog trauma/bad choice as a youngster isn’t the end of the world.

    • Mike B. says:

      Please no Zamora. Animal abuser. Really sickening. I like Hogan though.

      • Misfit74 says:

        Going a bit far, isn’t it? He wrongly decided what not to do in order to discipline / train a dog. Seems easy enough to learn from. He wasn’t a dogfighting ring leader or lead the coalition for beating animals. Isolated incident. I don’t condemn the guy for it. It’s not a ‘permanent condition’.

        • Mike B. says:

          That’s a fair counterargument–he’s no Michael Vick. I just happen to be a dog-lover and get emotional about that kind of thing.

          • HI Hawk says:

            Yeah, it’s tough to take the emotion out of it. Animal abusers are tied with murderers for me, that puts them only a half a rung higher than child abusers and rapists. I know murder is supposedly worse (and obviously more permanent) than child abuse, but to me blatant, intentional abuse of a child is beyond forgivable.

  237. Derron James says:

    I don’t get how people keep saying I am spoiling when I said raiders are finally taking a LB after they took him on live TV!

  238. HI Hawk says:

    And there goes my favorite Mike Morgan replacement, Matt Milano.

  239. C-Dog says:

    QB Nathan peterman, TE Bucky Hodges, Adam Bisnowaty; DTs Clab Brantley, Elijah Qualls, DJ Jones; LBs Carroll Phillips, Elijah Lee, Jordan Evans; CB Marquez White, Brian Allen.. still players to be had

  240. Misfit74 says:

    All the OTs I was interested in are gone: Lewmenour, Holden, Johnson, Moton
    OGs too: Siragusa, Asiata

    RBs left: zilch

    TEs left: zilch. Kittle, Shaheen, Jonnu wisely drafted.
    * Hodges is a great athlete but needs to learn how to play the position. Jump ball loss apparently only get you so far. He could be a good dev prospect for us.

    • nichansen01 says:

      Bisnowaty is still available

    • Mike B. says:

      A developmental TE with great upside makes sense given the positional situation in 2017. Hodges seems like a good choice, and I think Blake Jarwin (great hands; physical; good blocker) would be a great choice. Also Darrell Daniels–I suspect they might take Daniels if available, maybe with that 2nd sixth-round pick.

    • HI Hawk says:

      Hikutini’s a nice TE prospect – fantastic hands and feel for soft spots. He was as big of an influence on Lamar Jackson winning the Heisman as anyone.

  241. nichansen01 says:

    Hm…. Elijah qualls still available. Feel bad for him

  242. Volume12 says:

    Seattle was at the L’ville pro day. I wonder if they take 1 of their TEs. Hikutini and Towbridge.

  243. Cyrus says:

    Bucky Hodges is still on the board

  244. Sea Mode says:

    Did Elijah Lee go yet? I don’t remember seeing him.

  245. Derron James says:

    Dang it Bills you have got to be kidding me.

  246. nichansen01 says:

    Nathan Peterman to the bills

  247. Misfit74 says:

    Omg stfu Drew Pearson. This isn’t your personal platform. All the Dallas pick announcers have been horrific.

  248. Derron James says:

    Brian Allen still there too.

  249. Misfit74 says:

    Isaiah Ford might be a guy to monitor

  250. Volume12 says:

    Pittsburgh gets a good one.

  251. Derron James says:

    Yay we can see the seahawks pick on the bottom board now.

  252. Volume12 says:

    Atlanta finally grabs a TE. About time.

  253. Mike B. says:

    Not moving into the 5th round is really sucking for Seattle. Just like a nightmare it keeps getting worse.

  254. Derron James says:

    This commentary isn’t good lol but i really liked yancey tho

  255. Volume12 says:

    GB grab a VMAC visitor. He’ll be a stud with A-Rod.

  256. Elliottatk says:

    Would love the Hawks to take KD Cannon, or Elijah Quals if they fall to the Hawks in the 6th

  257. Derron James says:

    I actually have never heard of J.J. Dielman.

  258. nichansen01 says:

    Steelers took Brian Allen, danng

  259. Volume12 says:

    Is Charles lit or what!?

  260. Derron James says:

    49ers I think are gonna make a good pick, and no I am not spoiling anything I am not even early.

  261. Volume12 says:

    I forgot about QB Chad Kelly. Could see that for sure.

  262. Rik says:

    So who the heck is left who we talked about? Any combo cb/kick returners? Wide receivers? Every LB I had my eye on has been taken.

  263. Trevor says:

    I think John Lynch is a follower of SDB 🙂

    Love the 49ers draft so far! Was hoping he would be a bust as a GM but seems to be anything but so far.

  264. Derron James says:

    Went the receiver route.

  265. nichansen01 says:

    Lots of random wideouts going over Hodges…

  266. Trevor says:

    I think the Cards are having a great draft as well. Will Holden is a steal in Rd #5 IMO. He has a chance in a year or two to be a starting OT I think.

  267. Derron James says:

    WOW! the cardinals took T.J. Logan great pick man they are doing so well.

  268. Rik says:

    Packers and Steelers seem to having a good draft, too.

    • Derron James says:

      I think steelers really did a good job nailing players, will pay off sooner than later.

  269. C-Dog says:

    Man, I gotta say, if Seattle lands Bucky Hodges R6, I think I would flip out.

  270. Ishmael says:

    Annoyed we missed Brian Allen. Honestly couldn’t care less about not getting Peterman though, he’s meh.

  271. Derron James says:

    Yea, the Jets got Donahue one of the guys who stood out at his pro day.

  272. Rob Cee says:

    Two things that shock me

    It seems like they are staying put and using all 11 draft picks.
    With only 14 roster spots left before draft that only leaves 3 spots for UDFA’s

    I’m also surprised when trading back they didn’t pick up picks in next years draft
    especially since they have no comp picks next year.

  273. Poko says:

    Hodges Philips Caleb …
    If they get someone,I’m happy!

  274. Volume12 says:

    GB loading up on the RBs.

  275. Ishmael says:

    Would anyone else be interested in some late round Speedy Noil action?

  276. Derron James says:

    Ooh Xavier Woods there too.

  277. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    LB Carroll Phillips is still available…. might just be a SEA pick in 6th

  278. Trevor says:

    I hope the Hawks take to two Canadian Kids now either late or as UDFA.

    Athony Auclair – (Laval University / TE ) 6-5 and 260lbs with great athleticism. Raw but has the chance to be really good. Has huge hands and can catch the ball naturally.

    Geoff Gray – (University of Manitoba / OL) 6-6 and 310 lbs he is an athletic freak and would have had an amazing TEF. Another guy who is really raw as all Canadian kids are but has so much talent and ability for a guy that size.

    These two guys are great athletes with ideal size. Like all Canadian kids they are raw and need coaching plus better competition but if they get a shot could be real good a year or two from now.

    Much like Oneymata who played well as a rookie for the Saints last year and Tardiff the year before who just signed a big extension with KC. Raw but huge upside.

    • Volume12 says:

      Forgot all about both.

      Met with Auclair at the Shrine game and were at Gray’s pro day.

      • Trevor says:

        Yeah I think Auclair will go in the 7th and Gray as an UDFA. Hope the Hawks get both. WOuld be great to stash on PS for a year to learn the American game there is a big difference.

        Oneyamata was a freak to be able to come in from Canada and start as a rookie. Very Very can. Even Hicks who was a pro bowler took a year or two.

    • BradCanuck says:

      As a Canuck I love these picks:)

      • Trevor says:

        I am as well! What part of the country I live in Ont but I am from Nfld originally. I there are quite a few Canucks on here and a ton who are Hawks fans on the Wast Coast. I am surrounded by Pats and Bills fans unfortunately 🙂

        • BradCanuck says:

          I’m from Calgary. I started following Hawks as a kid because we get the Spokane channels, so all games. It’s nice you can drive to Buffalo for games though. Too many Leafs fans here;)

  279. Derron James says:

    Green Bay got Jamaal Williams? Damn, he was one of my favorites.

  280. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    OT Adam Bisnowaty is still available

  281. Misfit74 says:

    SOB! No Brian Allen. Damn. I missed he went already to PIT. GRRRR

  282. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    4 more picks for SEATTLE!

  283. C-Dog says:

    At this stage Bucky Hodges’s, Carroll Phillips make a ton of sense

  284. Elliottatk says:

    Darn I liked Nate Gerry to the Seahawks, really gritty player

  285. Derron James says:

    Brantley!?!?!??! If it works out nice pick browns.

  286. Volume12 says:

    Very interesting pick by Cleveland. If he pans out their got quite the O-line.

    He’s a Gregg Williams guy right?

  287. Derron James says:

    1 pick!

  288. Ishmael says:

    Nate Gerry is a handy pick up for the Eagles. He’s like a really poor version of Harrison Smith. Less range, bit more of a banger.

  289. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Here we go…

  290. JimQ says:

    Seahawks up so it must be time for the 45-th commercial this hour.

  291. Derron James says:

    pick is in!

  292. Poko says:

    I love CLE’s gamble. good bye Caleb.

  293. Producehawk says:

    Time for a commercial Seattle is picking.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      it takes them that long to put together a pc of the pick… since they are out of left field

  294. Volume12 says:

    Maybe a K?

    Gonzalel? GA-Tech Butker?

  295. C-Dog says:

    Commercial. The NFL hates Seattle

  296. Volume12 says:


  297. Derron James says:

    Mike tyson?

  298. Derron James says:

    Not too fond of the pick

  299. Ishmael says:

    Brantley’s assault was disgraceful, absolute germ. Nothing that would give Gregg Williams even a moment of concern though.

    Good player, the Browns have improved themselves more than anyone else in the draft IMO.

  300. Volume12 says:

    Damn. He’s a TO machine!

  301. Elliottatk says:

    Mike Tyson, interesting. That name alone will make him a fan favorite i’m sure.

  302. Poko says:


  303. Trevor says:

    Anyone know much about Tyson?

    • Volume12 says:

      Heard his name during his pro day. Had 12 INTs combined the last 2 years. I think he’s just a project, hybrid DB.

      • CHawk Talker Eric says:

        I see only 5 INTs last year. And only 7 total for his collegiate career.

        • Volume12 says:

          Your right. I was seeing those combined.

          • HI Hawk says:

            In his tape, he moves similarly to Shead. He doesn’t look very athletic, but all he does is mirror his guy and put hands on the ball. I think he could be a core ST guy and part time big nickle right away, if needed – but he’ll be at his best in a couple of years.

  304. Derron James says:

    We’ll see have not heard anything at all just seeing his name at the combine.

  305. Volume12 says:

    Seattle pulled a 2015. Instead of RBs, went with DBs.

    Its a 6th rounder. Project time.

  306. BradCanuck says:

    NFL networks ALWAYS goes to commercial during Hawks pick…

  307. Misfit74 says:

    Mike Tyson, pick 187. Straight murdah

    I know nothing about this guy. Another S. I get feeling our FS pick earlier will be a big nickle.

  308. Spireite Seahawk says:

    Legion of who?

  309. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Iron Mike

    STRENGTHS Wrap-up tackler who lands chest first and drags ball carriers down quickly. Good finishing rate as a tackler and doesn’t let many slip away. Attacks downhill once he diagnoses run. Prefers to meet running backs and receiver screens in the backfield when possible. Has experience covering the slot and playing zone underneath. Plays with adequate route anticipation. If receiver gives route away prematurely, he will respond. Defends throws with well-timed inside hand to disrupt catch point. Communicative on the field and plays with football intelligence.

  310. ulsterman says:

    How many safeties do they need? Why not hodges or caroll Philips?

  311. Mr. Offseason says:

    So TE getting late in the draft. We just picked Mike Tyson. We are set on drafting tons of DBs! I like it, we are at our best when we are deep in that area.

    Does anyone have favorites left they would like to dramaft. Here’s a list of some SDB favorites still on the board (correct me if I am incorrect on any of these still being out there).

    Elijah Hood RB North Carolina
    Tyler Scalzi
    Bucky Hodges TE
    Aviante Collins OT TCU
    Brad Kaaya QB Michigan
    Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
    Damore’a Stringfellow WR Ole Miss
    Elijah Qualls DT Washington
    Adam Bisnowaty OT Canderbilt
    Gonzalez K
    Cole Hikutini TE Louisville

    • Trevor says:

      Collins, Hodges, Gonzalez for me.

      Joe Mathis is the guy I really want them to get however.

      • AlaskaHawk says:

        Who is left from the Northwest? Any U of W players? Or maybe someone from Oregon.

        • Mr. Offseason says:

          Something tells me Seahawks are not trying to get anyone we really want right now lol. I have heard Mathis might go undrafted, and that he has been taken off at least TWO teams boards due to his foot injury. Must be worse than expected. Some nerve damage?

    • Spireite Seahawk says:

      I would quite like us to take a flyer on the Baylor QB. Can never have too many QBs called Russell.

  312. Trevor says:

    Does drafting 3 Safeties send us a message about how negotiations are going with Kam? Hope not.

  313. Ishmael says:

    Huh. Didn’t see that coming. Underwhelmed tbh.

    They really want safety depth hey?

  314. Volume12 says:

    Guys. Tyson or Hill are a CB.

    • Volume12 says:

      Tyson is 6’1, 204. 4.56 40. That says corner to me.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Not sure I see the strategy though. SEA currently have 15 DBs on the roster. They typically carry 8-9. That means 6-7 of these guys, and probably 1-2 of these draft picks, don’t make the roster.

      • Volume12 says:

        Load up on DBs and let em all compete.

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          Right, but my point is they already were loaded up on DBs. Why not go get that one DB who you can really scheme around, instead of several JAGs who may or mayn’t end up on the team?

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            BTW I think Griffin and Thompson are solid picks. But neither is a nickel.

  315. PPast says:

    Linebackers in UDFA?

  316. Mac says:

    A lot of people are trying to remain positive but I can’t shake the feeling that we are having one of the worst drafts in the league. All the teams in the league seem to get be getting loaded, the niners are rising and with the exception of McDowell we reached on pocic, darboh has great character but will most likely Chris Harper off the team, we are 3 -4 years away from being the saints with a bad offensive line.

    • C-Dog says:

      I love this draft

    • Trevor says:

      I have to admit I am disgusted by this draft. Outside of Tedric Thompson and Shaw Griffin I have been pretty disappointed with each pick. Reminds me a lot of the 2013 and 2014 Drafts.

      But what do I know. I loved last years draft and thought it was one of the best in years and they really did not contribute much at all as a rookie class.

    • Darnell says:

      Gotta give it 3 years to fully evaluate a draft.

      Terms like reach/riser/faller are entirely media and fan terms, as only the teams know where guys are graded.

    • HI Hawk says:

      Other than Pocic, I’m thrilled with the rest of the draft. Not one of them were guys I wanted, except for maybe Delano Hill, but hey – I think they’re attacking the draft well.

  317. Trevor says:

    With our 3 last pics

    Aviante Collins
    Joe Mathis
    Anthony Auclair

    • Rob Cee says:

      Why keep trying to guess?
      It’s gonna be someone random that everyone in here is gonna pretend they like
      because pc/js picked him.

      • Trevor says:

        I am not guessing. I don’t think they will take any of those 3 just wish they would.

      • Trevor says:

        Not everyone is liking to or pretending to like the picks. What have you been reading?

  318. Derron James says:

    If he has 31 3/4 inch arms I don’t think Tyson is a corner more of a depth signing and has TE coverage ability, or Delano Hill moves to LB

  319. Isaac says:

    This seems a lot like last year and the running backs. Draft a bunch of them and see which one sticks.

  320. C-Dog says:

    Seattle goes for a third safety that can play big nickel along with McDougal. Any doubts Seattle isn’t going to roll with a 4-2-5 defense often this year should be fully erased now. Didn’t Pauline say at some point Seattle is looking at a lot of safeties?

    • Volume12 says:

      Yup. They might be going completely away from the SAM position.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      But why shotgun it? Why not take the best Buffalo prospect in the draft with Obi?

      • C-Dog says:

        Because they wanted an interior rusher more and possibly OL more. They used the depth of the draft.

      • Joshua Smith says:

        Its entirely possible they just didnt like Obi. A lot of other teams passed on him too, some three times over.

  321. Ishmael says:

    Last three picks I’d like any of Gonzalez, Hodges, Hood, and Bisnowaty. Be happy with Mathis or either of the Canadian kids mentioned above as well.

    • Mr. Offseason says:

      I’ve heard Hodges is like a Jimmy Graham clone physically. But if he’s fallen all the way down to pick 200 you have to wonder how real that comparison is.

  322. Derron James says:

    We must be full time 4-2-5

    • C-Dog says:

      I think that’s going to be the look a high percentage of the time. SAM can probably be covered with one of the free agent pickups.

  323. JimQ says:

    I am very disappointed by the NFL networks coverage of the 2017 …………………………………….. (insert commercial)………………………..NFL ………………………………………………….(insert commercial)………………………………………….Draft.

  324. Rob Cee says:

    Paul Allen needs to buy Scot McCloughan a brewery
    and beg him to come back

  325. Mrkarea says:

    Is Malachi Dupre still available? If only LSU had decent QB play I think his numbers might be better.

    • Spireite Seahawk says:

      Yes he is. I was checking out the player grades on and he is one of the higher graded players left.

      The highest was Bucky Hodges. Not sure what the deal is there.

    • HI Hawk says:

      Dupre had no QB to throw the ball, neither did Speedy Noil. I hope one of those two ends up in Seattle, I think they would make the team.

  326. Ishmael says:

    Actually, add Luani and Phillips to that list. I still want Speedy Noil and that Houston cat Brandon Wilson. Still a lot of fun players out there.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      I’m scratching off S for any more draft picks….. Phillips one to watch with next pick

      • CLB says:

        LB Jordan Evans of OK just went to the Bengals, would’ve been a better pick and has been highlighted by Rob here a few months ago.

        • Ishmael says:

          Meh. It’s the 6th round. Maybe he would have been, maybe not. There are reasons why they’ve dropped this far.

          • Mr. Offseason says:

            I did not think they were going to take another S after Delano Hill. I’m not ruling out Luani yet.

  327. Nem Beselek says:

    As good as he may end up being, he is basically a waste of a pick. Either he, or Hill, or McDougld, or one of the other safeties stretchable will simply not make the team.

    Would have really liked to see a LEO or a Guard at that spot. Maybe competition at a lot of different spots, just not another DB that probably won’t make the team.

  328. CLB says:

    Mike Tyson LB/DB Highlights:

    From link above: “Solid, but not incredibly defensive player for the Cincinnati Bearcats, one who could fill in at linebacker and safety. He burst into the minds of NFL scouts and the hearts of Bearcats’ fans in 2016 by being an incredibly disruptive force in pass defense. He snagged five interceptions and five passes defended during his senior campaign, while also setting career-highs in tackles (46) and tackles for loss (4.5). It was a welcome sight for a player with four-star pedigree who made himself invaluable by proving he could play anywhere on the field, while excelling when teams dropped back to throw the ball. That pass defense excellence was built mainly on his ability to roam around in zone, however, as his man-to-man ability was not great.

    Tyson had a decent showing at the combine. He ran a 4.56-second 40-yard dash, which was a solid time although the 40-yard isn’t a be-all measuring stick. He also put up 17 reps on the bench press and recorded a 33-inch vertical jump and a 118-inch broad jump. His vertical jump shows that he may have some trouble working against larger receivers, especially on balls thrown up for grabs. But his strength, nose for the ball and tackling technique generally made him able to make up for that in other areas.

    With all that written, Tyson did all he could to make sure he was more than just a senior we said goodbye to in 2016. He made his draft stock go from non-existent to reasonable and that’s not an easy thing to do, especially when playing for a 4-8 squad which washed its year down the drain. While its no guarantee that he has done enough, including his work at the NFL Combine, Tyson is at least poised to compete for a spot on an NFL roster.”

    • Joshua Smith says:

      Nice job typing all that out .

      • CLB says:

        Just copied/pasted Joshua, hence the quotation marks ” “. Still don’t know why we drafted a third saftey/LB when we could have had an actual much better LB highlighted by Rob here earlier this year – Jordan Evans of OK who went to the Bengals, or another of the big/very good DTs who just went off the board – Tanziel Smart of Tulane or Vincent Taylor of OK St. Or a TE, WR, OL who has a chance to make/help the team?

  329. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Mike Tyson is from Norfolk and met Cam before… I guess

  330. Derron James says:

    I have a hunch that Carroll has a unique idea to use Mike Tyson, we wouldn’t have drafted hm if we didn’t.

  331. Joshua Smith says:

    Just FWI, PFF was really high on Mike Tyson as a slot corner

  332. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Tyson says he thinks slot / press corner is the fit Seattle sees him right now – radio interview

  333. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Tyson is a good interview on radio….. sounds like a good kid.

  334. C-Dog says:

    Brad Kaaya still sitting out there. Didn’t Pete Carroll’s kid coach at Miami?

  335. vrtkolman says:

    In 2 years, the Seahawks are going to have the best DT rotation in football. Reed/McDowell/Jones.

  336. sp says:

    remember..round 6 and 7…think pc/js drafts who might be at risk to bring in as UDFA. they will let better candidates slide in to UDFA

  337. Derron James says:

    He is like a poor man’s Chidobe Awuzie IMO.

  338. Volume12 says:

    Kind of ironic. Seattle shored up their 3 weaknesses. OL- Poicic is a 2 for 1 player. With his versatility your getting 2 OL basically.

    But, Seahawks twitter didn’t like Pocic as if Joeckel and Aboushi were the final solution.

    Needed DBs, Seattle loads up on ’em, but they weren’t names they wanted.

    Good players slip through the cracks all the time. If pro scouts miss on guys like that, surely we as arm chair scouts will too.

    • sp says:

      versatility means drafting backup players..not starters. hope they develop..

      • Volume12 says:

        And if he gives us a guy that can backup 3 spots meaning they only have to suit 2 OL and can use the active spot on a DB, DL, whatever and starts down the line, what’s wrong with that?

        • Volume12 says:

          *suit 2 backup OL.

        • sp says:

          little wishful.. they still need bodies on 53 man roster

          • Volume12 says:

            How is that wishful? They only suit 3 backup O-lineman. The sky ain’t falling. They didn’t need a bunch of starters. This is a future draft. Its OK to draft a year out.

            • sp says:

              they do need starters all over from what we saw last season and several starters might leave in next FA. i am okay with them taking a year to develop. we need atleast 2-3 day 1 starters from this draft at the least on rotation!

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      I still think they wanted Obi… at #58, a 2 or 3 to 1 guy.

      Perhaps the pick was going to be spent on either a defensive or offensive player who is a Swiss army knife at their position group.

    • C-Dog says:

      “I will eat this microphone if he ever does anything at quarterback ” – Hugh Millen on Russell Wilson when they drafted him third round in 2012.

      A solid example of how to check yourself before you wreck yourself when reacting to picks, chances are Pete Carroll and John Schnieder know a lot more about football and these players than you do.

      • HI Hawk says:

        Why are differing opinions cause for checking one’s self. Pocic has me worried, his tape against the best defenses in the SEC, teams with pros, like Auburn’s Montravius Adams, Alabama’s entire defense, Florida’s entire defense is outright shameful. Watch and see how many times he is jacked back into the backfield effectively ruining the play. Look how often he rushes out into the second level and blocks air. Look how often he fails to find someone to block in pass protection, while his QB is dancing away from pressure. It was more misses than hits, except when he was in a double-team or getting in the way of backside pursuit.

        All of that said, I fully hope to be wrong and acknowledge that I don’t know as much about why they think he can help them despite his play in those games.

  339. Isaac says:

    Who would have thought the hawks would have the mike Tyson of football? Ready to see him punch a wr in the mouth.

  340. Derron James says:

    Can’t wait to see what Pete Carroll has to say, wonder if Tedric will just be a back up at a few positions.

  341. Rob Cee says:

    Think hawks are making their picks by astrological signs

  342. Producehawk says:

    Carroll clues. Wonder if some of the Voice songs being from the “knockout” rounds referred to MIke Tyson?

  343. Ishmael says:

    Surprised Malachi Dupree is still sitting there. LSU have had such awful, awful, QB play he’s never got a good look.

  344. Trevor says:

    Bucky Hodges must have huge red flags regarding toughness and compete level because physically he is basically Jimmy Graham.

  345. sp says:

    are there any blue chip prospects from this draft?
    last 2 drafts has clark/lockett/procice/reed who has the potential. jury is still our on ifedi.

    • Volume12 says:

      Those were red chips that turned out to be blue.

      McDowell could, Shaq could, an UDFA could.

      • sp says:

        well may be.. we had a better idea on draft day on those prospects than thisdraft. trust PC more than JS at this time. hope they repeat 2012 magic

    • Coleslaw says:

      I’d argue for McDowell, Griffin, Thompson, and Darboh. Maybe not immediately but this draft isn’t really about 2017 IMO

  346. Coleslaw says:

    I’m lovin it. Every DB we’ve drafted and signed this off season (McDougald, Griffin, Thompson, Hill, Tyson) all could play in the nickel/big nickle roles. We already had Lane and Shead was used against big receivers and TEs often last year. So much versatility in the back end for us now

  347. Mr. Offseason says:


    Elijah Hood RB North Carolina
    Tyler Scalzi
    Bucky Hodges TE
    Aviante Collins OT TCU
    Brad Kaaya QB Miami
    Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
    Damore’a Stringfellow WR Ole Miss
    Elijah Qualls DT Washington
    Adam Bisnowaty OT Canderbilt
    Gonzalez K
    Cole Hikutini TE Louisville
    Shalom Luani S WSU

  348. Derron James says:

    I feel Tyson is a CB/S hybrid and hedges Shead, and then Hill is a S/LB hybrid

    • Volume12 says:


      I’m not counting Hill out at CB though. Am I expecting him there? No. Surprised if so? Nope.

  349. Derron James says:

    Damn Giants got Bisnowaty.

  350. Bayahawk says:

    I’m guessing this means SDB favorite Shalom Luani won’t be a Seahawk.

    Hoping for Zane Gonzalez, Jo Jo Mathis and Bucky Hodges with our last 3 picks.

    • C-Dog says:

      Probably not, but you never know. They might want to seriously stock up the LOB. Tyson might be more of a nickel corner than safety

  351. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Seattle has had a knockout draft so far ^.^

    • vrtkolman says:

      Easily best draft since 2012.

    • C-Dog says:

      That’s what I’m saying

      • Volume12 says:

        Really like this draft.

        Are fans mad McDowell won’t be an automatic starter? Does Frank Clark? If the kid has ‘effort’ issues, then he’s best in a rotation right?

        • vrtkolman says:

          He’ll be rushing the passer on 3rd downs from day one, I think.

          • Volume12 says:

            And that’s where we need him. He’s 20 years old. I like that Seattle finally took young prospects.

            • Coleslaw says:

              I never wanted McDowell before the draft, Obi was my guy, but knowing our FO believes in him, I’m stoked. Never knew he was 20 until yesterday, he’s the same age as me! His potential is so exciting I can’t even put it into words.

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          It’s not a matter of effort. It’s attitude. And that’s a dangerous one.

          Said OptimumScouting’s Eric Galko:

          “I won’t focus on…Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him n favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

          One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell’s signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.”

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Love your optimism even if I don’t share it

  352. Derron James says:

    Bye Hodges

  353. Derron James says:

    One pick has got to be offense you would think.

  354. Producehawk says:

    I get the feeling Arizona and San Fran may be following SDB.

    • Coleslaw says:

      I feel like a lot of teams are, why not? Its free scouting from a guy I’m sure every team would want scouting for them

  355. Derron James says:

    I think we ran aren’t going DB anymore I think that was one of the last with a draft able grade

  356. Mike says:

    I was kind of worried the hawks were going to pick one early round db (like obi)..who would get hazed into mediocrity by the current LOB. Bringing in a whole gaggle of them though at once is a great plan..and sends a clear message to the vets..

  357. Coleslaw says:

    Let’s get Scalzi or Elijah Hood as a fullback! Safe pick is Zane Gonzalez

  358. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    RB who is 5’7 208… that is a fricking load

  359. Kyle says:

    Anyone think we should pick Zane Gonzalez? Hand raised high!! Great value for an amazing cheap kicker

  360. Volume12 says:

    Where did Bucky go?

  361. Sea Mode says:

    Dudes left

    CB/KR Brandon Wilson
    RB Dalton Crossan

    OLB Carroll Phillips
    LB Elijah Lee
    TE/FB Tyler Scalzi

    RB Chris Carson
    CB Marquez White, Florida St.
    DT Stevie Tu’ikolovatu, USC
    QB Chad Kelly, Ole Miss
    LB Jimmie Gilbert
    EDGE Jonathan Calvin

    S David Jones
    S Shalom Luani
    RB Devante Mays
    OL Jylan Ware
    OL Dustin Stanton

  362. AlaskaHawk says:

    They could still use a field goal kicker = just for the competition.

  363. Volume12 says:

    Detroit’s a good fit for Ledbetter.

  364. Derron James says:

    Thats an unreal haul for the Browns.

  365. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Radio announcers (950AM in Seattle) just said they have been struck by how high of character almost every draft pick of the Seahawks during 2017. Incredible stories and background.

  366. Derron James says:

    Rams went Sam Rogers not bad.

  367. Volume12 says:

    Tyson was a VMAC visitor.

  368. Producehawk says:

    NFL network may get back for commercial in time for seattles pick…..maybe.

  369. Derron James says:

    Nooooo bengals got brandon wilson

  370. Sea Mode says:


    Tyson says Seahawks told him be open to play anywhere in secondary but “be ready to compete at press corner.” So sounds like CB initially.

    1:21 PM – 29 Apr 2017

    • Volume12 says:

      If he makes the team, he’ll be the 1st ever drafted CB with sub 32″ arms. Very interesting.

  371. Volume12 says:

    They’re gonna load up on offense round 8 huh?

  372. Mr. Offseason says:

    Arizona taking Kelly?

  373. Sea Mode says:

    Hoping for Dalton Crossan.

    Comp to McCaffrey is unreal and he has just barely begun to tap into his potential transitioning from lacrosse.

    Need someone to backup/share kick return.

  374. HawkTalker #1 says:

    I would have guessed that if they were picking safety their previous pic would have been Luani. Have to bet he won’t get picked by the hawks now, already have enough many safeties

  375. Volume12 says:

    Other than Mixon, no denying his talent, the Bengals have had a good draft.

  376. Derron James says:

    Prediction: Idk 🙂

  377. Sea Mode says:

    2 min drill: Who’s the most “Seahawky” backstory/personality left on the board?

  378. HawkTalker #1 says:

    When can teams start signing UDFAs?

  379. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    The Cardinals pick is not even on the biog board of top 500 guys… LMFAO

  380. Coleslaw says:

    Siragusa is still on the board? Or am i missing something?

  381. Overtime says:

    Our offensive line is going to look like this:

    LT Fant, Pocic
    LG Joeckel, Odhiambo
    C Britt, Pocic
    RG Glow, Aboushi
    RT Ifedi, Pocic,

  382. Derron James says:

    Damn! robert davis.

  383. Derron James says:

    Here we go!

  384. Sea Mode says:

    Did NE just move up?

  385. Derron James says:

    Justin Senior?

  386. Derron James says:

    I was right IDK!

  387. Volume12 says:

    Depth and depth. That’s a big boy!

  388. Mr. Offseason says:

    I like the Senior pick. The Canadian would have been the first pick in the CFL draft this year.

    • Trevor says:

      Hawks pick up another Canadian kid. Not the one I was hoping for but still a nice later round developmental / depth guy. His best football is ahead of him.

    • Trevor says:

      I think with the OL picks Pocic and Senior we can safely say they did not stick to TEF script this year.

      • Rob Staton says:

        Pocic was in the top-10 for TEF and scored in the 2.8’s so it’s not a major departure.

        Joey Hunt, also taken in the sixth round a year ago, probably wasn’t a TEF specialist.

        If we look at this as a clause-all ‘it’s one or the other’ we’re making a mistake. All TEF is there to do is guide us based on Tom Cable’s self-confessed ideals.

        • Trevor says:

          I love the idea behind TEF and think you need the most athletic guys you can get to deal with the freaks on the DL now. I for one hope the Hawks keep that as key part of their revelation. It is why I really only wanted Bolles, Lamp, Asiata, Siragusa as an OL prospect day #1-2 in this draft.

        • Trevor says:

          There were simply not enough OL that met the threshold for them to even be able to stick to it this year.

          That being said this draft was nothing I could have ever come close to predicting based on all previous trends so clearly and eloquently outlined here on SDB. Seems like they really went off script this draft. The only common theme was solid character / back story outside of Mcdowell.

      • CHawk Talker Eric says:

        Hard to stick to TEF on Day 3. Especially late Day 3.

        I like Senior as a project. He’s big and reasonably long.

        • Mr. Offseason says:

          The draft guys on ESPN said they don’t think he can ever be a starter. He’s just a swing tackle at best. He’s just a big guy with big, long arms. So basically, he’s just be out there to get in DL’s way when we have an injury.

  389. Mike B. says:

    Noooooo! Washington took my guy Robert Davis. 🙁

    I’ve been a fan of his for months. Bloody ‘ell.

  390. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Swing tackle to Seattle

  391. vrtkolman says:

    Justin Senior, played LT and RT in college. Versatility! He is a mess technique wise and won’t see the field his first year.

    • Overtime says:

      Rugged brawler.

        • CLB says:

          “Stats to know: Senior yielded three sacks, two QB hits and 15 hurries in 2016 after surrendering five sacks, 11 QB hits, and 34 hurries combined in 2014 and 2015.

          What he does best:
          Athletic and has the movement skills required of the tackle position in the NFL.
          Very consistent throughout the season, never posting a poor game.
          Adept zone blocker who excelled in Mississippi State’s scheme.
          Great frame and long arms that he understands how to utilize already.
          Accelerates feet through contact and generates movement regularly

          Bottom line: One of the more athletic tackles in the draft. Senior is going to need a complete re-tool of his pass-blocking technique. He also has a learning curve in understanding an NFL offense. Senior may not be a Day 1 starter but his physical ability will quickly make up for his learning curve and bad fundamentals. His versatility to play in any scheme and make any block will serve him well. His PFF grades were good, not great, at Mississippi State but in that offense and blocking schemes, he was their best player. Senior has a high ceiling and his physical tools and potential will probably lead to him being drafted ahead of most of the other offensive linemen entering the draft.”

    • Volume12 says:

      SR bowl guy.

    • C-Dog says:

      Depth at RT, probably. First pick I’m not wild about, but if he’s got a bit of Breno in him, nothing wrong with that.

  392. Volume12 says:

    Trev, there’s your Canadian.

  393. Derron James says:

    I like the pick.

  394. Sea Mode says:

    I won’t tell you his TEF score…

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says: is best that way

    • Overtime says:

      It doesn’t matter. Senior is a one year practice squad guy. He offers competition for Robert Meyers and the last OL spot on the roster. Next year we will dip into the OL class again when the long term talent is better.

  395. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    God, I had a flash back to Saginaw Valley State Seattle pick from yesteryear

  396. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Carroll Phillips still available!

  397. Isaac says:

    The hawks have stumped us this year. Really interesting draft.

  398. Sea Mode says:

    Aaaand we’ve come to the point where long snappers are being selected…

  399. SheHawk says:

    After listening to the JSPC presser on the 2nd day picks am getting really excited. Most all have and interesting side to them and have shown perseverance! Only exception of McDowell but if any coach can motivate him its Pete and if there are any “teammate issues” — Seattle D will keep him in line. A few great role models for him in that bunch

    • Volume12 says:

      Avril, Bennett, guys like that will put a boot in his a** if needed.

      • Mr. Offseason says:

        PC JS are not always happy about their drafts and you can tell in the press conferences. This year they seem pretty stoked!

  400. PPast says:

    Training camp OL and DB competition will be fierce.

  401. Overtime says:

    Darn! The Steelers took our LS.

  402. 12ridge says:

    Justin Senior? I Studied him and all I can say is I really have no idea what the Seahawks look for or like in O-lineman? The chances of hitting on O-lineman late in the draft are really slim. I would rather see us spend late picks on positions with more of a chance to hit late in the draft, and get the O-lineman that we like and want to mold as UDFA like we did with Fant. Just my two cents…

  403. Trevor says:

    One thing think you can safely say after this draft is that there will be some good competition in training camp in the secondary and OL / DL. I for one like that. Seems like they care getting back to their roots of really promoting competition for every spot.

  404. Derron James says:

    Someone finally got Qualls lol.

  405. Volume12 says:

    Something else I’m noticing.

    Seattle is a team that drafts for needs, but when they do they load the f**k up on them.

    • Derron James says:


    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      So do CAR. In 2013 when they needed DT, they double-dipped with Lotulelei and Short.

      This year they needed RB/OW and double-dipped with McCaffrey and Samuel.

    • Trevor says:

      Yep they load up and hope the cream rises to the top to get one guy who really steps forward. Makes sense when you think about it.

    • Overtime says:

      They draft for their roster. No need to take a guy if they cannot win a spot on the roster. Therefore, the key to understanding their selections is to look at the holes in the roster. 5’11’ Joey Hunt at backup center? Are you kidding me? Thank God, Britt was not injured.

    • C-Dog says:

      Absolutely. They don’t mess around. How many people were complaining on this board about lack of inside rush last year and more DT help? How much were we saying Seattle is probably going to grab at least 3 DBs or more? How much were people bangthe table for more OL?

      Done, done, and done.

      • jujus says:

        On the Dt’s there was like 5 of us. Everyone else was Purpleblinders on, sold on the shiny db class.

    • Ishmael says:

      Bit like Carolina. When they see a weakness, they really go after it.

  406. Glor says:

    So at this point you have to ask yourself, why not have used some of this draft capital to move the f up.

  407. HawkTalker #1 says:

    Will be interesting if Lawler gets any playing time this year.

  408. Steele says:

    Another strange, “ugly” draft, in which they once again passed up many opportunities and (it seems) stronger prospects.

    McDowell is their big swing for the fences. Many teams passed on him because a laziness problem, some very bad games in which he disappeared, some even questioned his interest in the game.

    My big picture concern is that in a couple of offseasons now, JSPC has not put in place the next great rotation set to replace the original now aging nucleus. They don’t appear to have gotten stronger.

    • jujus says:

      imagine being the only player on your team, having a high ankle sprain and playing through it, then your team craps the bed. You know nothing about him as a person outside of media narrative, grats on knowing more then PC JS though.

    • Ed says:

      Sherman/Kam/Browner/Shead/Maxwell all later round picks. Sherman/Kam/Shead all might be gone in 2 years. Maybe these guys need a year, then can take over.

    • Coleslaw says:

      “Has not out in place the next great rotation set to replace the original now aging nucleus.”
      That’s precisely what they’ve done, Griffin=Sherm, Thompson= Earl, Hill/Tyson= Kam. Darboh= Kearse, Jones= Rubin, Pocic could= Britt

  409. Mike says:

    hopefully they have some good Edge guys lined up for UDFA’s..

  410. Derron James says:

    Kaaya to the Lions

  411. Trevor says:

    Really surprised the Hawks did not take Lunai as one of the Safeties. He seemed to have the Hawks character / background. Hope he gets a shot as an UDFA if he goes undrafted. Would like to see him and Thompson as backups.

  412. Volume12 says:

    Kayaa should’ve returned to school.

  413. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Here is what has struck me about the last few interviews with prospects that Seattle eventually took in the draft….. much more stealth / cloak and dagger than they have been in the past. Minimal contact with the last few guys.

    • Volume12 says:

      Tyson was a VMAC visit. But no one picked up on it.

      • Volume12 says:

        But, I agree. Sounds like a cool prospect. High character kid.

        There might be more talented players, but if you don’t enjoy coaching these guys, they don’t fit in your building or program, then pass on them and take the guys that do.

  414. Trevor says:

    Did Samson Ekuban get drafted yet?

  415. Derron James says:

    I like what the Cowboys have done.

  416. Sea Mode says:

    Shaq Griffin already showing that personality PC/JS said we would all love:

  417. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Chance Seattle takes Chad Kelly as developmental QB here in the 7th round?

  418. Yesh says:

    Per multiple beat reporters SEA has told Senior he will be at competing at LT

  419. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Amara Darboh
    Pick Analysis: “He’s got a combination of size and speed and he competes. I thought he struggled a little bit against quality press. They played Colorado and he had trouble getting off press coverage. When he had open access, he was fine. He’s also a good special teams player. I think he’ll have the ability to cover kicks and punts and he’s a tough kid.” — Mike Mayock

    Kearse has been put on notice

  420. Derron James says:

    Senior will start out with left tackle.

  421. Derron James says:

    Luani is a raider SOB took 2 of our guys.

  422. Sea Mode says:

    Stacy Coley really good value at this point in the draft. Incredible burst.

    Shoutout to Awsi D.

    • CLB says:

      Darn Raiders, wanted Luani later in the 7th or in UDFA! And the big DE Odenigbo from Northwestern may have been a good pick, thought he was a probable 4th-5th rounder – went to the Vikings.

  423. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    G D Raiders

    Poaching players I like

  424. Yesh says:

    So the Raiders get Conley, Obi and Luani..

  425. Derron James says:

    But, on the bright side if there was a team I would want to have the players we want, it would be the raiders. BEAT THE PATRIOTS!!!!!!

  426. Derron James says:

    Good luck Stevie T.

  427. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Bucs, good pick

  428. Derron James says:

    Browns get Zane Gonzalez

  429. Derron James says:

    Seattle pick coming up.

  430. BRSeahawks says:

    Raiders – Shalom Luani
    Bucs – Stevie Tu’ikolovatu
    Browns – Zane Gonzales


  431. Mr. Offseason says:

    The more I think about it the more I think we shouldn’t draft Mathis. We should try to get him UDFA.

  432. Derron James says:

    David Moore

    • Derron James says:

      Very fast

    • Bayahawk says:

      It sucks that Rob asked specifically for people not to tip picks and you seem to focus on being the first to post picks. Runs counter to what this community is about, respecting your fellow Seahawks fans.

      • Derron James says:

        I keep posting it the same time as others

        • Bayahawk says:

          BS. Go take a look back at just the last few picks. You tipped Luani, Stevie T, Kaaya, etc. No one else posted them because others are trying to respect the community.

          • Derron James says:

            Im watching on the nfl network so how can I be tipping picks.

            • sdcoug says:

              fwiw – I was watching nfl network and you’ve been tipping picks or dropping hints all weekend long. Pretty obnoxious, especially when people have repeatedly asked for others not to

  433. Volume12 says:

    HA! Another WR. Loading up.

  434. Elliottatk says:

    David Moore

  435. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    East Central Oklahoma

  436. Mr. Offseason says:


  437. Volume12 says:

    6’0, 220? 4.43? Damn.

  438. John says:

    There are reports that Pete desperately wanted Taco Charlton at 26 and was very disappointed when they traded down and he was taken at 28. They never wanted Leek as much as they are saying. Thoughts on Taco vs. Leek for the Hawks?

    • Elliottatk says:


    • C-Dog says:

      Its all kinda silly speculation,right? The report says Seattle “may” have wanted Taco. Another report was put Seattle “may” have wanted Patrick Mahomes at 26 and that’s why they traded back. I can see Seattle digging Taco, but I think they wanted an inside rusher, and Taco is more pure edge. I doubt the report

      • Rob Staton says:

        I need to see this report and who is reporting it.

        The Seahawks have been after an inside/out rusher for a long time. They visited with McDowell. Taco isn’t an inside/out guy. He’s big — but he’s a pure EDGE.

        So this doesn’t make any sense.

        • Volume12 says:

          I don’t buy it either.

          JS mentioned on Monday how in a couple weeks they’ll start getting info on prospects when the scouts meet with Blesto or National. Can’t remember which one is affiliated with Seattle.

          And listening to the presser last night it sounds like they wanted this guy all year long.

          • vrtkolman says:

            Probably Cowboys fans convincing themselves they “stole” someone from another team. Same thing happened last year. 49ers fans were convinced we were going to take Garnett had they not moved up. Panthers fans were also convinced we were going to take Butler. Apparently every pick in the draft was sniped from Seattle.

        • C-Dog says:

          It started as a tweet from some bleacher report dude, and Dallas 247sports decided to write a TMZ number on it. Whatev’s

        • Ed R says:

          I think I saw Davis tweet something about this, I think he said it was from one of his sources. I’d check with him.

    • vrtkolman says:

      Makes no sense to me. Taco isn’t a high ceiling guy like McDowell is, and other 1st picks like Ifedi, Irvin, Clark, etc.

      • jujus says:

        And they consistently pick guys they meet with. NO MEETING WITH TACO – so aka #FAKENEWS

      • BobbyK says:

        Taco is absolutely a high ceiling guy.

        • vrtkolman says:

          I think he will be a good player, but he’s going to be a single digit sack guy with moderate pressure numbers. Beast run stopper though. There is a reason Atlanta jumped them for a DE.

  439. C-Dog says:

    David Moore welcome to Seattle.

  440. Sea Mode says:

    Man, NFL network crew going nuts. 7th round, man. long day.

  441. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    David Moore Bio

    2015: Don Hansen All-America Offense Third Team… All-America Honorable Mention…Don Hansen and CCA D2 All-Super Region Three First Team…All-GAC First Team…first ECU receiver to record over 1,000 receiving yards (1,079) in a single season…set single season receiving TD record (13) and the career receiving TD record (25).

    2014: Earned All-GAC Honorable Mention honors as a wide receiver…will be the leading GAC returning receiver with 10 touchdowns…second on the team with 526 receiving yards on 33 catches…returned two kicks for 35 yards…averaged 15.9 yards per catch, 17.5 yards per kick return and 51.0 all-purpose yards per game.

    2013: Played in eight games…caught 12 passes for 275 yards and two TDs…returned three kicks for 15 yards…added one solo and three assisted tackles.

    Before ECU: Tallied 40 catches for 700 yards as a senior…averaged 17.5 yards per catch, with 12 total touchdowns…a first team all-district pick on both sides of the ball…also named to the All-Cooke County first team and all-region first team.

    Personal: Born January 15 1995…son of David and Angie Moore…majoring in kinesiology.

  442. Sea Mode says:

    Pauline Scouting Report on Moore:

    Large, game-controlling receiver who dominated on the small-school level. Quickly gets into pass routes, comes back to the ball and extends his hands to offer the quarterback a target. Uses his frame to shield away defenders or protect the pass, lays out or extends for the difficult reception and makes the catch away from his frame. Gets vertical and extends or contorts in a crowd to grab the pass from the air. Gives effort blocking and gets results.

    One-speed receiver with limited quickness and burst in his game. Beat up on a lower level of competition.

    Moore offers size as well as pass-catching skill and could make a final roster as a fifth receiver occasionally used in the slot if he plays well this summer.

  443. HawkTalker #1 says:

    Anyone have a link to a good UDFA tracker?

  444. Mr. Offseason says:

    ESPN doesn’t want to say that the reason Ben Boulware isn’t drafted because of what he does to his opponents between plays …

  445. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    David Moore is in the top 74% of WR in athleticism in the NFL according to SPARQ… intriguing

  446. Derron James says:

    im not gonna say anything until seattle picks because idk why people keep saying I’m tipping picks.

    • HawkTalker #1 says:

      Some people like me, just get the news of the pics a lot slower and would like to see them first on whatever we’re looking at rather than have it come out on the blog first. It is what it is.

  447. Volume12 says:

    Lawler, this kid, and McEvoy gonna have one hell of a competition.

  448. Sea Mode says:

    Hey, look, a Moore rushing highlight…

  449. BRSeahawks says:

    Amara Darboh vs David Moore

    H: 6’2″
    W: 214 lbs
    40y d: 4.45 s
    VJ: 36″ (36.5″ pro day)
    BJ: 10.03″
    20y s: 4.27 s(Pro day)
    3c: 6.81 s(Pro day)

    David Moore (Pro day):
    H: 6’1″
    W: 219 lbs
    40y d: 4.43 s
    VJ: 36.5″
    BJ: 10.04″
    20y s: 4.38 s
    3c: 6.98 s

    Almost identical physical profiles

  450. sdcoug says:

    Loaded up on DBs (much like RBs last year), now let’s do the same with WRs.

    Give me Gabe Marks so I can have a junkyard dog to root for

  451. Volume12 says:

    IMO Seattle has 1 need left. QB. But you can probably get that in UDFA.