Kenny and I will do a review at the end of round three. In the meantime, here’s an open thread…
The Seahawks traded up from #56 to #49 (Chicago) to select Jarran Reed. The move cost a fourth round pick (#124).
A lot of D-liners left the board early in round two — yet surprisingly Jarran Reed lasted. We mocked him at #16 to Detroit before the draft and yet the Lions passed on him even in round two.
It’s unclear why he dropped so far — is it because he’s considered a two-down player? He and Andrew Billings (who also fell) were labelled as such. That’s not an issue though. He was immovable at times for Alabama — absorbing double teams and holding position.
His performance in the Senior Bowl game was superb — he was arguably the MVP. Watch the fourth quarter on Youtube and you’ll see why. His motor never stopped.
This is likely a direct replacement for Brandon Mebane but he can also line up at DE too. The Seahawks appear to be focusing on size and intensity.
If you want a reason to like him — check this out (taken long before the draft):
Jesus look at this guy @1j_reed !! In a Mariners hat with a Seahawks shirt on 6 weeks ago https://t.co/bgicUbTyCP Love him!
— Nathan_12thMan (@Nathan_12thMan) April 30, 2016
C.J. Prosise (RB, Notre Dame) was the pick at #90. He matches Seattle’s trends on running back athleticism/frame. Tough, agile. Just getting started at RB after a position change. He had a nice 2015 season.
Perhaps more importantly — he’ll be a solid special teamer immediately and a third down option.
Nick Vannett (TE, Ohio State) is 6-6 and 257lbs. Urban Meyer described him as an “efficient route runner” and a “move tight end” on the NFL Network. This is a nice hedge with Jimmy Graham recovering from injury.
Tony Pauline called the Rees Odhiambo (G, Boise State) interest weeks ago. He’s coming off an injury and that arguably impacted his workout numbers. However — Odhiambo is a bit of a surprise this early. He was way off on TEF and McGovern, Dahl and Haeg were all available. Plus he has struggled to stay healthy — he hasn’t played a full season of football.
This is a commitment though to establishing an edge.
Seattle’s draft so far:
R1 — Germain Ifedi (T, Texas A&M)
R2 — Jarron Reed (DT, Alabama)
R3 — C.J. Prosise (RB, Notre Dame)
R3 — Nick Vennett (TE, Ohio State)
R3 — Rees Odhiambo (G, Boise State)
Round two
#32 Cleveland — Emmanuel Ogbah (DE, Oklahoma State)
#33 Tennessee — Kevin Dodd (DE, Clemson)
#34 Dallas — Jaylon Smith (LB, Notre Dame)
#35 San Diego — Hunter Henry (TE, Arkansas)
#36 Jacksonville — Myles Jack (LB, UCLA)
#37 Kansas City — Chris Jones (DT, Mississippi State)
#38 Miami — Xavien Howard (CB, Miami)
#39 Tampa Bay — Noah Spence (DE, Eastern Kentucky)
#40 New York Giants — Sterling Shepard (WR, Oklahoma)
#41 Buffalo — Reggie Ragland (LB, Alabama)
#42 Baltimore — Kamalei Correa (DE, Boise State)
#43 Tennessee — Austin Johnson (DT, Penn State)
#44 Oakland — Jihad Ward (DE, Illinois)
#45 Tennessee — Derrick Henry (RB, Alabama)
#46 Detroit — A’Shawn Robinson (DT, Alabama)
#47 New Orleans — Michael Thomas (WR, Ohio State)
#48 Green Bay — Jason Spriggs (T, Indiana)
#49 Seattle — Jarran Reed (DT, Alabama)
#50 Houston — Nick Martin (C, Notre Dame)
#51 New York Jets — Christian Hackenburg (QB, Penn State)
#52 Atlanta — Deion Jones (LB, LSU)
#53 Washington — Su’a Cravens (LB, USC)
#54 Minnesota — Mackensie Alexander (CB, Clemson)
#55 Cincinnati — Tyler Boyd (WR, Pittsburgh)
#56 Chicago — Cody Whitehair (T, Kansas State)
#57 Indianapolis — T.J. Green (S, Clemson)
#58 Pittsburgh — Sean Davis (S, Maryland)
#59 Tampa Bay — Roberto Aguayo (K, Florida State)
#60 New England — Cyrus Jones (CB, Alabama)
#61 New Orleans — Vonn Bell (S, Ohio State)
#62 Carolina — James Bradberry (CB, Samford)
#63 Denver — Adam Gotsis (DT, Georgia Tech)
Round three
#64 Tennessee — Kevin Byard (S, Middle Tennessee)
#65 Cleveland — Carl Nassib (DE, Penn State)
#66 San Diego — Max Tuerk (C, USC)
#67 Dallas — Maliek Collins (DT, Nebraska)
#68 San Francisco — Will Redmond (CB, Mississippi State)
#69 Jacksonville — Yannick Ngakoue (DE, Maryland)
#70 Baltimore — Bronson Kaufusi (DE, BYU)
#71 New York Giants — Darian Thompson (S, Boise State)
#72 Chicago — Jonathan Bullard (DE, Florida)
#73 Miami — Kenyon Drake (RB, Alabama)
#74 Kansas City — KeiVarae Russell (CB, Notre Dame)
#75 Oakland — Shilique Calhoun (DE, Michigan State)
#76 Cleveland — Shon Coleman (T, Auburn)
#77 Carolina — Daryl Worley (CB, West Virginia)
#78 New England — Joe Thuney (G, NC State)
#79 Philadelphia — Isaac Seumalo (C, Oregon State)
#80 Buffalo — Adolphus Washington (DT, Ohio State)
#81 Atlanta — Austin Hooper (TE, Stanford)
#82 Indianapolis — Le’Raven Clark (T, Texas Tech)
#83 New York Jets — Jordan Jenkins (LB, Georgia)
#84 Washington — Kendall Fuller (CB, Virginia Tech)
#85 Houston — Braxton Miller (WR, Ohio State)
#86 Miami — Leonte Carroo (WR, Rutgers)
#87 Cincinnati — Nick Vigil (LB, Utah State)
#88 Green Bay — Kyler Fackrell (LB, Utah State)
#89 Pittsburgh — Javon Hargrave (DT, South Carolina State)
#90 Seattle — C.J. Prosise (RB, Notre Dame)
#91 New England — Jacoby Brissett (QB, NC State)
#92 Arizona — Brandon Williams (CB, Texas A&M)
#93 Cleveland — Cody Kessler (QB, USC)
#94 Seattle — Nick Vannett (TE, Ohio State)
#95 Detroit — Graham Glasgow (C, Michigan)
#96 New England — Vincent Valentine (DT, Nebraska)
#97 Seattle — Rees Odhiambo (T, Boise State)
#98 Denver — Justin Simmons (S, Boston College)
Waiting for the trade-down
Thinking a trade up is a legit possibility.
These 2 rounds are loaded with talent man!
Instant impact defenders everywhere tonight.
New clue is out.
Agreed.. could be a trade today.
Rob, do you see any QBs coming off the board before 56?
You’d think we’d have to to land Billings… He fits clue 2.
trade up that is
I think clue 2 is Joshua BULLard just my guess
Either one at 56 would be awsome.
Now the real fun starts!!
Most recent hint:
https://twitter.com/PeteCarroll/status/726182527291916288
La Grange by ZZ Top
ZZ Top are from Houston. Who on the board is from Houston?
lyrics:
Rumour spreadin’ a-’round in that Texas town
’bout that shack outside La Grange
and you know what I’m talkin’ about.
Just let me know if you wanna go
to that home out on the range.
They gotta lotta nice girls.
Have mercy.
A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw.
A haw, haw, haw.
Well, I hear it’s fine if you got the time
and the ten to get yourself in.
A hmm, hmm.
And I hear it’s tight most ev’ry night,
but now I might be mistaken.
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.
Have mercy.
Shaq Lawson?
Taken by Bills
Hahaha yeah total brain fart. Thanks
Miss St DT Chris Jones is from Houston.
We know about his ‘bulge’ at the combine in his underwear.
And the mascot for Miss St is a ‘Bull’dog.
Houston, Mississippi not Houston Texas.
He’s still from a city called Houston.
Not convinced it’s him, but wouldn’t surprise me.
Maybe Le’Raven Clark.
Nope.
Here we go! about to “watch” the draft from my phone on the way to a bachelor party. Perfect way to start a guy’s weekend. Let’s grab Bullard/Day/Billings.
Ogbah to the Brownies.
Obgah goes before Spence, can’t say I agree with that pick.
Good pick for Cleveland.
BTW, new clue is out.
‘La Grange’ by ZZ Top.
I think we’re trading up to get a D lineman, probably in the 40 – 45 range.
Pass rushers are sellin’ like hotcakes. Though I’ve never bought a hotcake or even know what it is.
That would be a pancake my man.
interesting. I was thinking fair food, something like a fennel cake
Do the Girls take Jack here?
Close. The other injured guy
Wow, even better. Jaylon Smith at 34 overall.
Wow. Jaylon Smith. Hope his recovery stays on track.
Boo hoo, Dodd is off the board…
Oh well, can’t have em all I guess.
Woah!!!!
Jaylon Smith just went to Dallas
Good for him!
So happy for Jaylon Smith!!!
Very happy for him too!
Yup, good for him.
lol Dallas
… Are the Cowboys mailing it in this year? I mean, Jaylon Smith hopefully will be amazing… in two years.
Right, what are they thinking?
Maybe they actually are planning for the future? If he’s out for a season and comes back fine it’s a total, total, steal. He’s still only, what, 20?
Cowboys are so dumb. Defense isn’t nearly good enough now to take a guy who needs a redshirt year, and by the time he’s ready to go, Romo might be gone and they are in rebuilding mode.
the feels with smith getting picked ;(
I thought the Cowboys were in win now mode…?
This draft screams of Jerry making all the picks. Lots of flash.
Nah, pretty much always in 8-8 mode
Look for Ragland and Jack to go soon after this…
Glad for Jaylon Smith.
And glad we didn’t take him.
Not that I thought we ever would.
What if Myles Jack is there @ #56?
disregard. lol
Chargers picked Hunter Henry
The Bolts are always good for at least one big reach per draft.
Jags move up… do they go with Jack?
Jags still at 38 on my board. Where they at on yours?
lol…updated just now.
Hunter Henry, TE, seems like a solid pick for the Bolts
He’s going to be a solid player in the Heath Miller mold
Not a fan of TE Hunter Henry.
Doesn’t fit an uptempo offense.
Next year’s TE class is loaded.
BTW, keep an eye on VA-Tech’s TE Bucky Hodges for Seattle next year too.
Paul Allen in war room today. PC keeping him entertained, as usual. Not a single Mac or iPad in that room today, I assure you. 🙂
Fred T was that dude!
Myles Jack finally finds a home
Good for Myles Jack and JAC… I wish a speedy recovery and a productive career
Miles Jack is a Jaguar. Great for Bradley. Watch out of the Jaguars this year.
And here we thought two weeks ago that the Jags were picking between Jack and Ramsey at #5. Come draft time, and they get both.
yeah no doubt… who would have guessed?!! WoW
Yeah for guess Gus that was a steal by the Jg’s
Two top five picks for Gus. Not bad.
And Fowler from last year
Jags are getting scary good.
Nooooooooooooo!!!
Man, I hope so badly for the Jags that Jack is fine.
They’re already adding Fowler, Ramsey, Jack to their defence this year – in addition to all the FAs they picked up. I’d be losing my mind if I was a fan, potentially an incredible haul.
Good pickup for KC.
Well, none of the clues were him.
It probably wasn’t realistic to expect Jones to slip to 56.
Well, there goes Jones. KC’s and Carolina’s D lines are getting sick.
Chris Jones to the Chiefs. Could be great, could be a whole lot of meh. Going to be interesting to see who we go with.
Hoping for Hargrave and/or Fackrell.
Any thoughts who picks Derrick Henry? I would like to see him as a Seahawk
Maybe here to the Phish.
Very possible, I think.
Both injury guys off the board and the character guys gone. All the slides are done. Nothing but pure draft picks from here.
Hopefully QB reaches as well
I think Spence still fits into this category… Right?
And there goes Spence to TBay
And there he goes
Still giddy over Ifedi… woooooooooooooooo
I’m diggin it too. Did you hear that hack on KJR 10-12 show? Forget him name. He was totally baggin the pick. It was so over the top it sounded like just trolling for a reaction.
I used to work at KJR. Most of those guys are arrogant hacks
I listen to KJR for the laugh of the blow hards freaking out. Tony Softly is a good listen though, and knows his stuff.
You are talking about that new guy, I barely ever listen to…..
Softly is a former Husky who used to work in the front office of Carolina. IMO, the only guy worth listening to on KJR who knows his stuff and isn’t full of hyperbole.
I did and I had the same reaction that you did. It was so over the top and without any logic/critical thinking at all. I ended up turning it off it was so ridiculous.
With you on that. He and Webb will boost eachother so much
Traded up for him? weird, but good for us!
ZZ Top: another Z receiver to take the top off defenses?
La Grange = Le’Raven , Texas Tech.?
And then Coleman in round 3.
Is the ZZ top clue Andrew Billings or Hassan Ridgeway?
A’Shawn Robinson? From Texas.
What would you think of his value at 56?
Good.
He’s the ultimate boom or bust, but Seattle’s 2nd round picks always are.
I like Robinson, but get the concerns.
Yeah, at 56 not so bad.
Would you mind either?
No. Not at all.
I’d prefer Billings.
At the same time, PC likes his D-lineman to be seasoned and older.
Kaufusi?
i’d prefer Kafusi myself.
Billings might be the most upside.
Ridgeway is doesn’t get beat much by blockers and is gab sound, has a ton of upside.
I agree with you there, but if we can coach up Billings I think he can have a bigger impact.
There goes Spence, darn! Great pick Tampa.
Spence to the Buccos. Nice pick.
Good pick by Tampa.
Spence gone. No way Kaufusi falls to us.
KC got Jones that really sucks. Last year they get the guy I wanted Morse in Rd #2 and this year they get Jones. They seem to scout and draft similar to Sea for sure.
Giants should get Spriggs. They need OT
I guess they don’t care if Manning gets sacked, just throw fast.
Wow what a draft for Jacksonville Ramsey and Jack. That team is loaded with young talent. Look out AFC South there is a new big dog on the block.
Time for Gus to produce.
Tyler Loc…errr…Sterling Shepard the the G-men.
Dang NYG is good a selecting WR though. That’s gonna be an even tougher combo to stop.
Here could be a run on DL
be patient, it will come around pick #56 😛
Could Petes clue be DT Hassan Ridgeway?
Might the Bills want Derrick Henry?
Maybe Raiders Pick henry
These are weird trades
Apart fromn the Rams and Goff. The weirdest yesterday for me was the Whiners moving way up for Garnett.
Maybe a run on Bama guys now.
Only 2 offensive players off the board so far in round 2.
Bills are loading on on LB.
The value in this round might be on the offensive side, though I’d rather we focus on defense …
Could we move up with one of these Tennesse picks?
We’re getting into that range.
We shall soon see. I kinda think they might hold ship at 56.
We know they have the ability. With whatever happens it feels like we’re getting the guy we want.
Does Derrick Henry start to become an option?
Very much so, I think.
Odell Beckham and Sterling Shepard together? That’s going to be unfair
Duh! So obvious!!!
ZZ Top = Connor McGovern, Mizzou
Brilliant!!!!!
That makes a lot of sense.
Also has a big beard IIRC.
Grange means farm. McGovern is agricultural academics major.
Another guy I don’t really like (Correa) off the board, nice!
JS making a call, trade chart in hand…
I don’t want to seem like you know who, but it is pretty obvious that when they wheel out the steps to reach up and take a magnet off their board, it means that guy was on their board. With the supposed 5 min delay, I would say that was Ragland.
Of the eleven picks in the second round so far, eight have been in the front seven.
Make that nine of twelve.
So many great options still, I doubt they trade up unless their guys start disappearing. Possibility of Spriggs too? What an athletic OL that would create
12 players before we pick, still loaded with options.
Raiders is where I think Bullard might go.
All these Carroll disciples Raiders Jaguars Falcons make it harder for the steals the Seahawks seem to find. The Chiefs just seem to mirror the Hawks lol
Good pick for Tennessee.
Correa is a classic Ravens pick. Short arms, good motor, just goes hard.
What if the value too good to pass on Spriggs.
Spriggs/Ifedi/Sokoli/Glowinski/Gilliam
Lots of speed and finesse on that line but little power.
What’s the link to the war room feed?
http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/live
Paul Allen gone.
Thanks.
Did we trade with Ten.?
Ten took A. Johnson (Penn St)
after oak>
Bullard and Henry would be nice. I really don’t think they need another G.
Gilliam/Ifedi/Sokoli/Glowinski/Webb
Nothing yet
nope.
pick is in
I liked Jihad Ward @ 56… Just went to OAK
Good for Jihad Ward.
This kid’s backstory is incredible.
Jihad Ward. Nice pick for the Raiders. DL run is probably going to happen in full effect now.
When those anonymous scouts said Jonathan Bullard was a nice player but not special…
Yeah… With the run on DL, do you think we could grab another OL or Derrick Henry @ #56?
I’m hoping not special enough so that he lands to pick 56.
Thank you, anonymous scouts! I wouldn’t mind a trade up to get him if they can find a trade partner.
Crazy run on defensive players… I wonder if we don’t just go OL at #56 to be ahead if the run on them
Can’t believe Billings is dropping…think I’ll dare to dream.
QB 3
RB 1
OT 5
OG 1
C 1
WR 4, 1
TE 0, 1
DE 3, 6
DT 4, 2
LB 2, 3
S 2
CB 4, 1
And a second round rb
So for defense we still got:
Jarran Reed (DT, Alabama)
T.J. Green (S, Clemson)
Jonathan Bullard (DE, Florida)
Bronson Kaufusi (DE, BYU)
Derrick Henry (RB, Alabama)
Kyler Fackrell (LB, Utah State)
Jordan Jenkins, 6’3, 253 pounds, OLB, Georgia
A’Shawn Robinson, 6’4, 312 pounds, DT, Alabama
Joshua Perry, 6’4, 254 pounds, OLB, Ohio State
Andrew Billings, 6’2, 310 pounds, DT, Baylor
Su’a Cravens, 6’1, 225 pounds, OLB, Southern California
Shilique Calhoun, 6’5, 250 pounds, DE, Michigan State
Maliek Collins, 6’2, 300 pounds, DT, Nebraska
Javon Hargrave, 6’1 3/8, 309 pounds, DT, South Carolina State
And Derrick Henry for some reason haha
And now to the Titans
I think Detroit is gonna go D-line next.
Reed? Bullard?
I think Kaufusi to replace Jones.
Dammit Titans. I have to love what they are doing and hate they took someone I think could have brought something to the Hawks.
Rob,
Would a 3rd and 4th get another 2nd? Would be great if the Hawks jumped up and got:
2nd Henry (RB)
2nd Bullard (DL)
3rd Henry (DL)
3rd Striker
GOOD!
Glad Henry is off the board.
He never seemed like a Seahawk to me
WOW… They traded for DeMarco Murray and then draft Henry. Interesting
Late round pick for Bishop Sankey.
Let’s do it Hawks!
Glad we won’t be tempted to take Henry with our 2nd. Honestly I think he will be good but he’s just not a super good fit with Seattle.
I don’t think we were ever going to take him with our second.
Fully agree. I was sweating it
Does Murray want out again?
Well, we can take one Henry off the board. Good pick for the Titans.
Derrick Henry and DeMarco Murray?
Running behind Conklin and Lewan?
With DGB and Kendall Wright?
That AFCS is gonna be fascinating.
Love that pick man!
The way Indy has been lately with their picks they be the bottom dweller in the division.
Titans a team to lookout for
Just saw something – the Seahawks waived Philip Sims yesterday, which means they have a single QB on the roster… Potential draft selection this weekend?
Dak Prescott.
Tough, gritty, good fit for a simplified offense.
Phenomenal backstory.
I would absolutely love that, to be honest. Dak brought Miss St football on the map a couple years ago. A good leader.
I think we’ll re-sign T-Jack. I saw Wilson comparisons for Dak Prescott this morning.
Vernon Adams is getting called a Wilson-lite…
Xtra-lite
Vernon Adams stinks.
Unfortunately
They are rumored to be targeting a QB, I think.
Wow no offensive lineman AT ALL since Ifedi
Nick Martin heating up
Pete probably loves Braxton and Su’A. Just IMO.
So what is Billings deal everyone?
Probably goes here at 47 to the Aints.
getting closer to 56.
Guys, I think we’re gonna pick Connor McGovern!
ZZ Top = Mizzou
La Grange= means farm. He is agricultural academics major.
Bingo. Work backwards!
I hooe they trade up to the middle of the third then to get him then. We need an interior D lineman. With no linemen taken yet this round, McGovern is probably still available in the middle of the third.
Sounds reasonable.
There is a La Grange Missouri
Gotta pick’em a round early to beat KC.
Indy would be smart to get Spriggs. A new C and LT to help keep Luck from missing half the season again.
They have looked at Spriggs. Should be the favorite to take him
It’s Indy. They might go WR…
Didn’t the Colts just pay their LT some serious cash?
Or trade the pick to the Packers
Lions tak Ashawn
DE/DT Bullard still available!
Fackrell, too!
Jets eyeing Fackrell. Maybe Indy.
And Kaufusi
I’ll be surprised if Chicago doesn’t take a CB or D-lineman.
Kendall Fuller anyone?
Or Billings if NO doesn’t take him.
Jarran Reed, Whitehair?
JS on the phone again. Several white “trade cards” (at least this is what I suppose the are after watching yesterday) in front of him.
Now he looks really pensative and is consulting all around him.
Shoot, they cut out to some prerecorded interview….
Trade up is coming.
we moved up
So if the Hawks take Spriggs at 56, does Rob get a ‘TEF GOD’ tattoo?
Not surprised with NO’s selection of Thomas. Yes, their defense is absolutely horrible, but their WR corp is a little shallow.
Are they going to rely on Rankins to make there edges better? They need pass rushers.
New Orleans has a very good looking receiving core.
Cooks, Coleman, and now Thomas.
One of the most underrated receivers in this draft. Along with Daniel Braverman.
GB take Fackrell?
Packers picking
Maybe we were outbid. Who knows? Just fun to speculate.
There’s Sriggs
Spriggs
GB grabbed Spriggs… Nice pick
Well, I guess the Colts really didn’t want Spriggs if they traded away their pick that became him.
I guess. Maybe Kelly was their guy
Packers take Spriggs? Weird, they have good tackles. Sounds like a future move, since they are going to be in cap trouble with their line soon.
They have four offensive linemen on the last year of their contracts this year. Just making sure they are not overrun by turnover with a guy quite a few might have thought could have gone in the first round.
Bakhtiari is better off inside. And a pending UFA I believe.
Packers land Kenny Clark and Jason Spriggs, but Clark R1 and Spriggs R2. Interesting.
There’s the trade up! Billings?
What is wrong with Indy?
They think Luck is Superman.
They grabbed the best center, so they are trying to address OL
Whoa, we got fist pumps and JS stood up to the other phone from which he calls the drafted player.
CHI traded their pick…
TRADE
for our 4th?
Yup… we’re selecting @ #49
Told ya’ll a trade up was coming.
Here we go!
We still have all our 3rd round picks on my board.
A 4th or future pick?
The pick is in.
This is fabulous news! I hope it’s a d lineman. Bullard or Billings is my guess.
I was hoping we didn’t trade our 3rd rd picks. Good move here
Great, what’d we trade?
4th round 14th overall
#56 and #124
We traded our 2nd rounder and 4th rounder.
What board you watching that gives trade details so fast? NFL board is in slow motion.
Nfl network canada
Seattle acquired the No. 49 overall pick from the Chicago Bears for the No. 56 overall pick and a fourth-rounder (No. 124).
Da Bears trade to seahawks !!! Here we go!
I bet Atlanta and the Jets were targeting the same gu we were.
Has to be a defensive pick, getting head of all those sides who took receivers in round 1.
Lost our 124th, so we still have 3 3rds. Whew!
Still three thirds? Amazing. So smart to move in front of Atlanta and Washington.
Bullard or McGovern I think.
That’s what I’m thinking too
Bullard is my bet
Jarran Reed
Who did the Falcons want?
Jarran Reed is a seahawk. Excellent value in the second, and the Hawks still have three picks in the third round.
Projected first rounder.
There it is.
Moving up for value
Looks like Mebane replacement
OL in 1st
DT in 2nd
My guess in the 3rd
OL
RB
WR
2 2nd rounders. Bullard McGovern?
Bullshit.
There goes Martin.
How nice was that, seeing them cheer for the kid.
That was great. Alexander did a great job letting him soak it up.
How cool is this?
My mom has bone cancer.
Very touching for me.
Loved it.
Stole the show today.
Thoughts and strength to you and your mom Vol
What do you think about Pete going back to his roots and talking USC C Max T. in the third? Do you think he could come in and win the starting spot at C? Go Hawks!
Awesome great pick! Fantastic value.
Eh. Run stuffer. Underwhelmed.
Are you kidding me? … Jarran Reed is probably the second best d – tackle in the class. Run defense will continue to be elite.
Don’t worry, I will hold back my negativity until I look more into the guy. He’s a ‘hawk now anyway, so I’ll get myself behind the pick 🙂
Luis Riddick mentioned that he has some athleticism which hasn’t quite shown up on tape/developed yet.
It sounds like he one of those guys who could look like a massive steal in a couple of years.
Jarran Reed. I AM SO @#$%ING EXCITED! Did not see that coming. At. All. Both lines just got significantly bigger and nastier.
Yes!
Most underrated DT in this class.
He’s immovable at the POA.
Great motor, plays hard, good athlete.
Love this pick.
Best run defender in the class. Hands down.
Perfect replacement for Bane in my opinion.
DUUUUUUUDE. Did not see that coming at all. IMO, Seattle just landed two first round picks, both of them beasts.
From NFL.com:
Reed is an elite run defender with the lower body strength to command his gap, but the instincts and timing to be productive as a tackler rather than just a space eater. Reeds lack of pass rushing ability creates a potential glass ceiling on his draft stock; however, teams looking for a battle-tested run stuffer will find an instant upgrade who should be able to come in and start immediately if needed.
Seahawks getting tougher in the trenches.
I think Reed has the traits to push the pocket though. IMO, He could be a lot more disruptive than people think. I don’t know if the drop off from him and Butler is that much. Kinda thought he was going to go first round.
Would anyone have rather moved up like that for Billings instead.
Jarran Reed: “The Seahawks got a good player coming…”
Exciting.
Yeah, saw that. Great attitude.
I never thought we had a shot at this guy.
Top 20 talent.
I agree! I am very curious about why he slipped into trade up range though.
Can’t believe they traded up for reed, seems desperate
Needed to get ahead of texans, vikes, bengals etc.
I guess, I like the pick but not the type of player I thought they would trade up for
Yes, because Pete and John have been known for making desperate moves.
They have though
lol
Or smart. Depends on how you look at it.
I think it’s smart and safe but doesn’t seem like the pc/js type of early pick
Did ya’ll see that?
Dude had a pack of Skittles, and did the ‘woof.’
Yeah that was on point.
Base downs DT. Stop the run. One of the most fundamental tenets of Pete Carroll football. I thought we’d get a more dynamic pass rushing type. But I’m more than pleased with this choice. He can be a ‘core player’ on the D line with Frank Clark for the next several years
I think he has to tools where he could play some nose in the nickel, though. Don’t know if there’s that much of a drop between him and Butler.
Agreed^ — i think carrolls defense typically just employs interior lineman that specialize so this makes sense. We don’t need a dude who dominates all 3 downs, not our style.
Long term. Nice fit. I didn’t think he would slip this much, so missed mocking him to Seattle 🙁
Reed is like the perfect fit for what Carroll wants in his 1T. He’ll replace Mebane and start there from day 1. I’m shocked they didn’t want a better athlete, but I love that they’re filling needs with quality players at the top of the draft.
It’s almost as if PC doesn;t want interior pass rush – just gap integrity. Would rather have moved up for Billings but he is not a the gap technician that Reed is.
Bennett is our interior pass rush. Now it’s up to Frank Clark to step up.
“Talk about value, this was my 13th-rated player in the draft. He is always working forward with that powerful base and dominates against the run.” — Daniel Jeremiah
I’m telling you guys right now.
This kid is better than Billings, Ridgeway, Bullard, or Vernon Butler.
He’s got grown man strength.
Great gap discipline.
He completely controlled that ‘Bama LOS.
We thought ‘Bane was good?
Best run stuffer, legit top 20 talent, and he’s not even a pass rusher. Yet.
What’s not to like? We didn’t talk about him?
We thought he would be gone by the end of round #1
Best NT this year
I agree! We didn’t talk about him because I think we all thought he’d be gone! I know I did haha
#3 ranked tackle on Walter Football behind only Buckner and Rankins:
Jarran Reed, 3-4DE, Alabama
Height: 6-3. Weight: 311. Arm: 32. Hand 10.76.
40 Time: 5.21.
Projected Round (2016): 1.
4/27/16: Teams picking in the middle of Round 1 have told me that Reed is in the running for their first-round pick. He is a good run stuffer, but doesn’t offer a lot in the pass rush. Reed does have the speed and athleticism to develop more pass-rushing skills as a professional though.
Reed had a solid combine workout. His 40 time wasn’t special, but he did well in the field drills. In 2015, Reed totaled 53 tackles with 4.5 for a loss, one sack and two passes batted. At the Senior Bowl, he flashed some of his pass-rush potential. Sources said that Reed might end up as a top-25 pick.
8/22/15: Reed was an All-SEC honorable mention in 2014. He was a quality run defender for Alabama with 55 tackles, 6.5 for a loss, one sack, and five passes broken up. Reed needs to improve his pass rush to rise as a senior.
Outstanding pick. Did not see him being available at all.
“This kid is better than Billings, Ridgeway, Bullard, or Vernon Butler.”
Different kind of player, Volume.
He’s different than Bullard.
He’s no different than Ridgeway, Billings, or Butler.
None of those 3 rush the passer. They’re all 1-techs.
I think he can play 1, 3 and 5 tech. IMO, he could be pretty versatile for Carroll, but love his potential lining up between guard and center.
I’m actually shocked because it’s usually the type don’t spend much draft capital on. He’s just what we need and it’s great that we have a player that can stick around for awhile
Two picks, two physical starters on the line. No complaints from my point of view
^this
Hackenberg… Oh dear.
Haha, they packed it all up in the War Room. Only a couple guys still there. Looks like we’ll be waiting a while.
Yeah time for their break. Seems like they’re content to take their picks at the end of round 3.
Yeah, don’t think they’re trading any more picks. Too many good players
If the scouting report on ESPN.com is to be believed that “Reed has shown the ability to push the pocket from the interior,” then he has the ability to do what Pete wants from a DT against the pass. He’s not looking so much for penetrators as for tackles who will collapse the pocket and force the QB outside. Sounds to me like Reed has the ability to do that. If so, he’s worth the price, and more than worth it.
Be gap sound, but disruptive. That was Mebane in his prime.
Been salivating for Vernon Butler for weeks now, was bittersweet last night seeing him go to the Panthers, but I think Seattle got a player in Reed where the drop off isn’t going to be that much. Can play nose, 3 tech, and 5 tech. Tough as they get. Thought he was going to do in the teens yesterday.
Germain Ifedi and Jarran Reed are Seattle Seahawks. Man, am I dreaming?
Reed is better than Butler.
Wouldn’t take it that far. I think Butler has the makings of being a special player at the next level, but Reed is very good, and might be right there with him when all is said. Tough to project those Bama DLs a bit, I think.
22.5 tackles for loss for Butler over the last two years.
11 for Reed…
Got no problem with that at all. I’d take either. IMO, I think Butler might have a bit more upside, but Reed is right there with him.
One also played for Alabama against a strong SEC, while the other played through what I assume was a fairly lackluster Louisiana Tech schedule. So I’m not convinced the TFL difference is something to put a ton weight into. Just something to consider… I could be wrong
Reed also has 108 tackles over the last 2 seasons, and had 0 missed or broken tackles last season. If there’s one thing the Seahawks like from their interior D-lineman, it’s consistency.
*had. My bad
We’ve never needed a DT before.
Had to be adressed.
They traded up for him because he’s legit.
I thought they were scouting someone else at ‘Bama not him.
Get the second best run stuffer in the draft.
Fell because of low pass rush.
At least now folks won’t have to read anymore of my obsessive clamoring for one. Go Hawks!
Definitely a need!
Reed. There is the Bane replacement. 2-down 2-gap, great run stuffer. Not a pass rusher, although they will try to get him to do that.
I thought they’d go in this direction because Siliga is a one year rental. Will they go for more of a pass rusher later?
I’m concerned they will miss out on McGovern/Dahl/Haeg. Would not have minded going for McG a few spots early.
Yeah, you called it man.
When you said that the 1-tech was a glaring hole, my antennae picked up.
I thought we had no shot at Reed.
i think it highly unlikely they will miss out on all three of mcgovern/dahl/haeg (gonna also throw in coleman), I am almost positive they will get at least one of those guys, maybe 2 if lucky.
Unless they move up, I am worried. Will McG/Dahl/Haeg be there at the end of rd. 3? Better start lining up the plan B and C.
I think they very well could. I’m thinking the Panther’s model a few years ago of grabbing the gap sound 1 tech first, and then going after a pass rushing 3 tech later. Bullard, Henry, Ridgeway, Hargrave, Kaufusi, Ioannidis, Onyemata, Day. This DL class is loaded.
Reed is the manly Gurley neutralizer.
But hope we can find some inside pass rush in R3.
Control the point of attack and stop the run
That’s core to the Seahawks defensive philosophy.
In hindsight, we all probably should have spent more time discussing him before the draft. He’s the best run stuffing lineman in the draft.
Neither pick has been “sexy” but they are getting better/deeper in the trenches. I’m onboard.
Honestly I didn’t think we would even have a chance at him. Should have gone mid first round.
Don’t think anyone saw Reed falling this far. Doubt they would’ve picked a run stuffer otherwise. Reed better be damn special, is what I’m saying.
He was the in the green room to be picked on day 1 for cryin’ out loud. Highway robbery by JS!
Plenty of ?’s i’d say this is a more appropriate spot for him
I thought Reed was a Red Bryant 5 tech. Definitely wasn’t looking for 1 techs past Butler
Hoping kaufasi, fackrell, McGovern, dahl, and Ervin will still be there. Loving our draft thus far!
If we can get Kaufusi, McGovern, and Ervin at the back of the third I will be very surprised. Also, very happy. Hell, I’d take any one of the three.
Getting those 3 would make this draft perfect to that point.
What a nice pick. I did not consider him because I thought he would surely go in the top 20. I am jacked.
There is going to be some extreme value RBs in the 3rd round… love it!
2 picks, 2 day one starters. The top physical specimen at OT in the draft in round 1, the top run stuffing DT in the draft in round 2.
I like this pick. Thought we would be able to get Vernon Butler but obviously other GMs are smart too. 🙂 I am very happy so far with the picks the Seahawks have made. I would be overjoyed if we can get Conner McGovern. Then I do not care what they do after that. 3 stud linemen is all I want.
Deion Jones to Atlanta.
Him and Keanu Neal in DQ’s defense?
Wow!
Speed.
Yup. Both make a ton of sense
They are doing a nice job upgrading the defense.
Redskins should pick Connor Cook haha
Dan Quinn and the Falcons are really trying hard to make their D into the Seahawk D.
Deion Jones to ATL. Quinn picking off of Rob’s big board.
I’m disappointed. If they wanted a run stuffer, they could have waited until the 4th round yeah, the pick they gave up). They passed on Cody Whitehair to get a one-dimensional DT. Are they ever going to get a DT that can pressure the quarterback?
Nope. Just stay in the gap. That’s all PC wants.
They’ll take a nickel rusher in round 3, watch.
Whitehair was a TEF flop. Not sure he was ever considered. There’s a reason why he’s dropping.
Not their style.
We need to accept the fact that PC might not ever have a pass rusher from the DT spot.
It”s why they like the Bennett’s of the world. Versatility, technique/hand use.
Guys like Bennett are too quick for OGs. Once they cross the guards face, game over.
Mark S., I’m ok but not ecstatic about Reed. You’re right, run stuffers are available lower down. Reed fans will say he is an elite run defender. Reed’s tackle totals were not super, but I suppose he is more of an “occupier” than tackler.
Getting around 55 tackles in each of the last two years is very good for a DT. Understand as well that as deep as Alabama is, ever player is a part of a rotation.
This is true. He was rotated out on 3rd down.
The Seahawks gave up the fewest rushing yards in the league by a good margin. That’s what they do. It’s their DNA. Stopping the run is core to their defensive philosophy. If you want crazy interior QB pressure you’re following the wrong team. 🙂
If you are going to get a run stuffer you might as well get the best run stuffer in the entire draft in the 2nd round. Any guy they take in rd 4 is not the quality of Reed. Stopping the run is the key tenet in PCs defense, they’re run defense which was #1 last year just got a lot better.
Because that “one dimension” is crucial to their defensive philosophy, and the guys they could get in the 4th round couldn’t hold Reed’s jock strap as a run stuffer.
Kind of hard to say what he’ll be on the Hawks other than that he’ll be a solid run defender. Not going to be 2-gapping like at ‘Bama so he might actually be tougher under a different scheme.
Getting a guaranteed, solid, 2 down player as a starter in the 2nd round isn’t bad. And that’s his floor.
But he has the upside to be a dominant run defender and has the power and wheels to push the pocket. He could factor in some on 3rd downs. When Mebane was in his prime, he would stay on the field in the nickel. I think Reed could do that.
perry from Ohio state or Jenkins from Georgia next please
Jenkinssss
Clue giving Jarran Reed
Nope. (or at least I sure don’t see it) Might have just been opportunistic when they saw how far he fell, in which case they would not have had a draft clue to send out before hand.
Pretty sure they didn’t expect him to get into range. Also, it’s obvious Schneider didn’t want to let go of any of his 3rds! But once he got in range of our fourth —
I felt there were times last year our D line got pushed off the ball. I am stoked for this pick. Teams were clearly enamored over the edge rushers; well…we’re pretty darn good there (avril, Bennett, Clark, clem). It allowed Reed to fall in our lap and I’ll take it all day long.
Solid points. Time to slap some sense into the Rams OL and Panthers OL.
what was the price to move up and get reed
#124
Our 4th
Are 4th
Our 4th
kaufusi with one of our thirds?? Is it possible??
Let me ask ya this.
Did we think Reed, Billings and the like would be alive in the mid-late 2nd.
It’s entirely possible.
Bengals get Fuller
Boyd brainfart
I still want them to find a way to get a pass rushing DT / DE. Bullard and Kaufausi are probably not getting past the top of the third. McGovern would be nice but Sokoli is slated as center of the future already. I’d rather get a pass rusher and take the best of Dahl / McGovern / Haeg who’s available at the bottom of the third.
Tapper still up
Please no, he just came across to me as having the wrong attitude, no passion for the game. Maybe I’m totally wrong on that cause I only watched some interviews and tape but I would prefer even Blair III to him.
If Hill can stay healthy, we may already have one on the roster…
Rob had Reed at 16 to Detroit in his final mock. We got a bargain.
And we still have three 3rd-round picks. I can’t wait.
You are right. Rob must have thought a lot of him. Of course, he is predicting what teams will do, not what he thinks is best.
Still, in the Ifedi article, Rob mentioned Reed as a player that was still available.
I am excited. The Seahawks have picked up around 635lbs the last two days and I expect them to add more than 600lbs more before the evening is finished.
In the Alabama games I watched this year their D Line absolutely dominated the line of scrimmage. PC & JS look for guys that are GREAT at something. I love the Reed pick! Before all else you stop the run. No more Jonathan Stewart 75 yard runs up the gut. Reed is an immovable object. Bring it Gurley!
We are getting back to basics. Win the line of scrimmage.
Bullard has to go here to Da Bearsss
Well Kaufusi, Bullard, Fackrell still there at our old 56
REally good top tier pass rushing DTs go in the top 15. I’m sure they would pick, say Aaron Donald…except they wont ever get a chance to.
There goes Whitehair. Can we call it a slide for Billings and Bullard?
They could make a play for Bullard in the 3rd.
How good does Dick Butkus look, for a guy his age, who played in such a violent era.
Does anyone know Reed’s wTEF score?
He never did the bench.
He did just fine 😉
Not impressive in Youngs SLA standings.
True. Big reason I didnt look at him.
As much as we know about their OL preferences. We have little info on their DT’s
They have good agility drills. Not too tall.
Interesting new information
That’s too bad. I’m surprised that they took Reed when it seems like there are more athletic prospects who could perform a similar role. I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do, for Seattle!
He did not bench, so we can’t really calculate it, but if we give him the average among this year’s DTs (27) he scores a 2.89 TEF and 88.85 wTEF.
Thanks Sea Mode!
Colts take billings?
TJ Green. Billings would have been a steal but Green is solid.
Our D-line coach Travis Jones came into the war rom before this pick.
Think he wanted Reed?
OT Coleman and Clark still available
S/CB Davis still available
DT Billings still available
SS Bell still available
Plenty of good talent!!!
And Bullard.
Indy might’ve just got the best hybrid DB in the draft.
What a pick.
Surprised me, but a perfect fit
Reed presser on KJR right now.
They got two physical maulers for each side of the ball. Can’t complain about that.
Still hoping they can get Bullard, Fackrell, or Hargrave somehow.
So often when the dust settles and we look back on a previous draft after the player development has kicked in and we realize PCJS gleened multiple 1st round talents right out from underneath the noses of 31 other teams!
TB just traded up for a K
wow, TB takes a kicker at 59 overall. Guess they plan on kicking a lot of field goals.
ahh, I like that ” guess they plan on kicking a lot of field goals”!
Round 2 kicker?!?!
That’s fantastic! Traded up too! 1 more option for the Seahawks!
Wow, Bucs get demoted to the college rank. That’s ridiculous.
So I think McGovern OR Dahl, Cajuste, and maybe Killibrew or Ervin in the 3rd. Definitely OL, WR/TE, RB, and DE before the draft is done.
No, thank you, not Dahl – he’s overrated.
Jarran Reed has been talking about the Seahawks since the Senior Bowl.
For the past 6 weeks he’s been wearing a Marinere hat.
Was eating Skittles when Seattle selected him.
Says this is a dream cone true.
We just got 2 lineman on both sides of the ball from the NFLs minor league. AKA SEC.
‘Bama and Nick Saban run an NFL defense.
3-4 personnel for a 4-3 defense.
Is that you, Tim Ruskell?
He said ‘fast and physical is all I know.’
PC/JS thought he was too valuable to slide any further.
This trade up reminds me of the Lockett pick.
Yeah, I don’t hate the pick. Just giving you a hard time.
Big Nose tackle. Is this the Rodney Dangerfield hint Fat fat fat fat
I can’t imagine they thought he’d be there…so doubt there’s a specific clue to him
He’s been dreaming of being a Hawk? Really? That’s cool.
Nice film room interview from 3 weeks ago if you haven’t seen it
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/05/nfl-draft-jarran-reed-alabama
Year 1 contributors. With size.
Just got home from work and I am stoked about the pick. Now I can relax and watch the third round fireworks.
Would any of you have preferred Nick Martin, who went one spot later, instead of Reed?
Ask me in two years when Sokoli is either a boom or bust.
No
No. After watching Martin tape, I see LIMITATIONS. I don’t know if its me unfairly comparing him to his brother…
No. Lewis is serviceable until Sokoli is ready. Sokoli has potential.
Honestly Soke’s potential is the thing I am most excited for. This draft has been meh for me so far, so having Soke coming in is like having a fresh pick to root for
Pats gonna get Bullard of Billing. Nauseating.
‘or’
maybe, but they released Easley in part because of their depth there.
Or Cyrus Jones
2nd round kicker , I see everything now.
Billings and Bullard most likely have a medical flag
Has to be something. It’s a legit slide for both at this point.
Tots is over Billings and Bullard. Who’d have thought?
*Gotsis
We Trade Up…and we trade down..
If we don t trade back into the 4th, highly likel, Seattle is gonna target sleepers and UDFAs the rest of the way.
Because if we pick 3 times in the 3rd, there’s our needs right there.
So we are saying Jarran Reed is not a great pass rusher. Does that mean he can NOT collapse the pocket on pass plays?
Been furiously watching youtube and no he doesnt appear to from nt. Single or doubled
Rob says above to watch the 4th quarter of the Senior Bowl game to see why arguably he was the MVP.
I am happy he is a great run stuffer. I am having a hard time getting too excited if he can’t provide a Powerful push on the inside for pass plays. We knew this wasn’t a good draft for pass rushing DTs, but that’s what our DLine really lacks.
I think his primary role will be to eat double teams so the other guys have a shot.
I think he can be a pocket pusher. He’s probably not going to be a sack artist, but he can be disruptive.
Honestly doesn’t look like he does much of that.
He’ll be 1-gapping with the hawks so that might mean he’ll be able to be more aggressive, so that could be a part of his game that emerges, but at this point I don’t think we’ve seen it. He gets doubled on most plays and all he’s really shown is the ability to hold his ground, get his hands up fast and hard and control his ground, and move intelligently toward plays coming at him.
If he can get isolated 1v1 more often I could see him bull-rushing successfully from time to time, but he’s a bit too slow and arms too short to do much than try to power his way through. He seems to have a lot of power though against college OL when that happens, we’ll see in the NFL …
Bama notoriously stays home with 7+ in coverage…and they ask the interior to stay home and corral upfield/edge pressure to prevent QB escapability. I think it has more to do with his role than his ability. Not gonna be even a replacement level pass rusher but he can/will provide some pocket collapse.
He flashed pass rush in the Senior Bowl, but was primarily run stuffer period for years. Sincerely hope they develop his pass rush skills in a hurry.
Wow, so we traded #26, #56, and #124; for #31, #49, and #94. I’m ecstatic so far.
When you look at it that way, that’s insane. Moved back 5 spots in the first and moved up big in the 2nd and moved our 4th to 3rd.
How about Dahl, Cajuste, and Ervin
Kaufusi, Dahl, Ervin, Cajuste in the 5th 🙂
X2
Dahl is so overrated.
Why do you think this?
This is going to be very close to how this plays out
Kaufusi would be nice but will probably be gone.
it is going to be close, very close
Those 3 are on my wish list. I would love if they picked up at least one of those guys. Cajuste is a personal favorite! 🙂
Packers acquire pick No. 48
Colts acquire picks Nos. 57, 125 and 248
Seahawks acquire pick No. 49
Bears acquire picks Nos. 56, and 124
Didn’t even have to throw in the 7th rounder…
This was a very good trade! We are winning our trades and getting the players we WANT/COVET.
EXCITED for rd 3!!!
That’s good value.
Can’t believe all these short armed CB’s going so high
Big run on CB’s, this is awesome. Push those other players down the board!
Different teams, different systems.
Patriots got a smurfy nickel back with their first pick. A surprise to me, but it is in keeping with their history. They need a pass rusher badly.
Would love for the Pats to boot this draft!
Love all the DBs and kickers coming off the board this round. We are going to have some serious talent to pick from in the 3rd.
Wow, Bradberry to the Kitties at 62. Desperate to replace Josh Norman.
Lots of CBs going all over.
Pats missed Sean Davis lmao. Panicked imo
Damn. Was hoping for bradberry late round
Hey V12, there goes Gotsis. You and I were geeking over him during a GT game last season, haha.
200th rank on some boards.
Yeah, but he wins getting off the bus.
Right?
I thought the same thing.
Was hoping maybe Seattle would target him in like round 5 or something.
I
I was hoping for him in the 4th, maybe 3rd comp, since it’s practically a 4th, but certainly didn’t see him closing out rd 2
Gotsis ahead of Bullard. Did not see that coming at all.
So many good players left but with no 4th we go a long way without picking after 97
Just pretend that last 3rd is an early 4th 😉
We could trade back with one of our late thirds.
Mow the lawn, go to the gym, or find something to do before you sit down to watch the rest of the draft
Schneider on the phone again…
Wonder why GB took Clark over Reed in round 1.
He was higher on their board.
Sarcasm alert!
QB 3, 1
RB 1, 1
OT 5, 1
OG 1, 1
OC 1, 1
WR 4, 3
TE 0, 1
DE 3, 6
DT 4, 5
LB 2, 5
S 2, 2
CB 4, 5
K 0, ONE
Anyone upset that we got Jarran Reed, just think, we could have gotten Adam Gotsis
Would rather have had Billings in that spot, myself.
But how would you have felt if they had not taken Reed or Billings and took Gotsis? At least we know why they took Reed. He is a dominate and disciplined gap defender which Billings is not. TY McGill was cut after a great preseason last year for freelancing.
Yeah I was bummed about McGill. Freelancing, shmeelancing…as long as he gets home, which he was doing.
You beat me to it
Not mad about that … would’ve preferred Billings over Reed though.
Have a shot at OLBs Perry and Fackerall still
TEF guys left at the moment include McGovern, Haeg, Dahl & Vaitai plus our fan favorite Coleman. We’ve beaten 4 of those guys to death.
Looking for size
304, 304, 304 ,320 & 307 lbs.
Not exactly small. Size + explosion.
Add in a healthy Coleman at LG to our current group… Makes a nice daydream.
Bullard’s chip just gets bigger
There goes Tuerk.
Big deal, let him go.
I wonder how many “gots to have” players JS/PC have and will they stand pat where they are in the 3rd round
I don’t think Schneider wants to sit on his hands, here
Wow, some major reaches at the end of the 2nd round. Pats panic and take Cyrus Jones, and the Panthers take a CB who could have gone undrafted.
Yep major knee jerk pick by them. They wanted Sean Davis.
Anyone else think it’s funny that when they show a white guy playing a position generally dominated by African Americans (DE), of course they comp Nassib to the one prominent white guy DE (Jared Allen)
Bullard, Fackrell, Kaufusi, McGovern, Ervin…
Yessir.
Hope everyone high on Reed is on the money. Myself hate that the Seahawks picked a run stuffer in the second round, much rather see someone that can pressure the QB as a DT. The fact they moved up and gave a fourth, really disappoints me. Reed needs to be awesome to justify this pick, because the Seahawks have always found some cheap vet to do this job and do it well.
IMO, he has a chance to be a dominant player. Would have been top 15 pick in other draft years.
Wasn’t Mebane a second or third round pick? That’s probably the comp.
Not many pass rushing DT this year especially not round 2
Seahawks give up a fourth for him?
Mebane was a third round pick. He was only a run stuffer when he was drafted and while never a good pass rusher, became better as the years went along.
Agree with Harold on this. I’ll admit that I know little to nothing on Reed. Was hoping for more of a PR DT, and maybe there isn’t a DT, outside of Rankins, that can do that. We did lose Bane so this makes sense. When the run on DL started, the trade up made sense, but afterwards I don’t think any DL taken to 56. Hindsight 20-20 but I’ll wonder for a day or 2 if the trade was needed….in JS and PC I trust.
Agreed. It was just one year ago where Pot Roast and Stephen Paeia, both good run stuffing DT went for around $4M each. Not super expensive.
Dream picks for R3 include Jonathan Bullard, Joshua Perry, Connor McGovern, Joe Dahl, Joe Haeg, Willie Henry, Hassan Ridgeway, Tyler Ervin, Braxton Miller, Charles Tapper, Bronson Kaufusi, Travis Feeney, Miles Killebrew, Devon Cajuste, Shon Coleman, Maliek Collins. Man, lots of players left on board.
Collins a decent pick at 67 for the Girls.
Yeah, that’s a decent pick up as a rush 3 tech, gets knocked to the ground a lot though.
Rob and everybody, nice article here for you to Reed until the Hawks’ picks come along:
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/11/inside_jarran_reeds_long_windi.html
Reed sounds like a fun guy on ESPN radio, well spoken.
when asked about got picked a little bit late.
He replied with how he stay with his familiy, and immediately ackowledge he is going to play for a
GREAT DEFNESE! and loves taking on people running at him, which is what exactly what Bane was doing.
and he talkes about the brotherhood with Regland, Robinson.
and he loves Skittles too!
two down run stuffer not a problem in our scheme
he plays End for Bama too, maybe BIG RED Bryant role too?
Blue light CB special on aisle three.
Whooaa haha 9ers
Something cooking again I think. They cut the war room feed to another interview.
Reed has only played 2 years of CFB and he’s already the best run-stuffer in this draft.
He’s a JUCO transfer. Something PC/JS love. They’ve taken one every single year.
He fell because he doesn’t rush the passer.
You think he can’t becomr one after only playing 2 years and dominating SEC O-lines.
Underrated pas rusher IMO.
His upside and ceiling is ridiculous.
I agree. Plenty of room to grow. Only 22 years old.
He will be disruptive, I can almost guarantee it. I didn’t think he would be there at 26, I thought Detroit, Cincy, or Pitt was going to take him.
I also remember reading on here that Bama doesn’t want there DT to rush, just play gap control and defend the run
They ask them to 2 gab and hold there ground. I remember reading reports all season long that said while Robinson gets all the hype, Reed is the better player was more athletic upside.
Hmm that’s funny, what pro team has the same approach to defense…
He’s definitely an underrated athlete. He’s not just some big, fat, strong guy who takes on double teams.
Unfortunately no evidence of underrated pass rusher.
Nonetheless, a great run-stuffing DT starter with a 2nd round pick isn’t bad value. I think some of the other remaining DTs have a higher ceiling, but this guy should be able to come in and start as a rookie for sure. That’s exactly what the Hawks want on 1st and 2nd down, so in that respect I think this is a about as safe a pick as could be. If any unexpected upside emerges, that’s all bonus. Even if he only becomes exactly what we know he can be, it’s still a good pick for his position in the draft.
Whiners get Ngakoue. Darn.
Jags
woops, lol. Yay then!
Jags.
Jags did
Man I hate every player the 9rs have taken so AKA I LOVE THEIR DRAFT
Buckner is a beast
Maybe if they had a pass rusher
Very overrated for me. Plays high. Good hands though.
Bullard is getting closer
So is Coleman
Bullard, Coleman, McGovern at the end of round three, anyone? Heck, Billings too at this rate.
Yikes, unfortunately I think Billings would be off the board now. With Reed picked, which apparently they clearly preferred for whatever reasons, another mainly run-stuffing DT is unlikely.
That is unless they want to move one of them to the 5 tech on 1st/2nd downs … yarrr! That’d be pretty sweet actually.
Bring it on!
Tom Cable in the War Room, everybody. Smiles all around.
Cable knows he will get another player in Round 3. I’m hoping for McGovern. His strength is insane and I would love to see him battle some DTs as our LG.
Dahl, McGovern, Coleman, or Haeg.
Kaufusi to the Ravens.
Crap oh well cannot get them all.
Ozzie Newsome is Rob’s evil twin or he simply drafted off this blog.
Dang those ravens
Once again the Ravens scouting dept have been reading on Rob’s blog
Like their draft so far.
They stay on here.
Ozzie Newsome
Rowdy brings up a good point.
He’s extremely disciplined, because that’s ‘Bama asks of him.
Day 1 starter IMO.
It will be interesting to see his pass rush ability. ‘Bama also sat him on pass rushing downs. Read into that what you will. Could mean he can’t or just that it was by design. Only 2 years playing ball, don’t want him getting overwhelmed, too many techniques to teach, focus on run stopping.
Ahhh painful
Wow, if we can pick up Braxton Miller at the end of the 3rd I would take that all day over Ervin
I would take both.
We still have a wild Shon Coleman to catch!
Now that I would love to see
Argh,nevermind. Stopped looking at the draft for a few secs … gone.
Year of the DB?
Amazingly all quiet on the RB front. Will we be the next to take one? Kenyan Drake is my guess.
Prosise? Marshall? Daniel Lasco? Alex Collins? Jordan Howard, probably.
Howard to Packers?
Drake, Booker, Perkins, or Ervin.
All would be excellent backups to Rawls or share carries.
Drake or Ervin would give us an offensive weapon to move around.
Dixon and Marshall too.
I like Keith Marshall’s explosion
And he doesn’t have tiny hands like some of the others
Giants have done nothing in the trenches…..good.
Bears crap.
Area scout Jim Nagy says Reed is the best run stuffer he’s seen in the long time, saw the upside as a rusher as the season went on and during the Senior Bowl. Consistent every game. The Alpha Dog of Bama’s program. Go freaking Hawks.
Said similar things about Kelley, the center.
Yes, Nagy thought he was a first round pick. He said Alabama didn’t ask him to rush the passer. But, in the Senior Bowl he was asked to rush the passer and was great.
Bullard, Billings and Ridgeway really falling… Dahl Haeg and Mcgovern still on the board…
There goes Kaufusi. Oh well. I had been warming up the idea of him.
I was just thinking, while looking at remaining pass rushers, that there are so few. Almost none left with that edge/bend. Kaufusi’s sheer size and height could have been utilized in lieu of that.
After Rob’s articles on Bullard and Kaufusi, I too had warmed to the idea of either or/both. I’m assuming now begins the run on OL as Martin and Whitehair are the only ones gone that were in discussion at one point or another.
How do you watch the feed and can you do it on a mo-bile
You can watch the draft using the WatchESPN app
http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/live
On mobile I’m not sure. Probably depends.
Browns have consecutive picks coming up here at 76/77. Possible trade partner?
For who though? Billings is the only player I would trade up for here.
Bullard to Bears…
Now our players are going fast.
Finally Bullard goes, to DaBearsss.
Drake is gone now……. 3 RB down
Sea Mode! Good call!
I am surprised he went ahead of Booker and Perkins.
Don’t worry, Tyler Ervin is the backup plan.
The Hawks often got run over by big backs last year (like Jonathan Stewart). Its a good pick that way. Only concern is his skills overlap too much with Rubin?
They like Rubin at 3T in base. Reed is a perfect replacement as 1T in base. Sitting at 26 the Hawks had little chance to get any top 20 talent at any position and they got one in the 2nd round at a position of need.
Bullard is a bear, Billings, Henry Ridgeway and Hargraves still on the board. Surprised Gotsis went in the second.
Thought gotis would be a fourth.
So long Bullard. Bears get a good player.
Great pick for the Dolphins with Drake. The Seahawks and Drakes teammate Jarran Reeds week 1 opponent.
With Reed we have less of a need for a run stuffer. Look for someone who can play the interior of the offensive line.
The interior of our D line on base downs is set and good to go now. No one is going to be able to run up the middle and between the tackles on us, assuming everyone stays healthy. The interior of our defense is going to be tough going for any team.
Well one of the TEF o linemen is pretty certain to be there at the bottom of the third. Ervin too. I hope Fackrell lasts that long. Too bad about Bullard and Kaufusi.
I don’t want Dahl or Haeg.
Yep, too bad about Bullard and Kaufusi – and Vernon Butler and Bradberry.
Look out for NE and Fackrell. I have a feeling. He would be a good Ninkovich replacement for them.
So many CBs going. We will have an embarrassment of riches at the end of the round.
agreed
Keivarae Russell is a Raider. Finally the get a decent CB
Do you think Ken Norton reached for Jihad Ward? He obviously wanted Jihad.
Chief. Beast to pair him with Peters.
Think he was drafted by KC actually
Oops Chiefs.
There is a lot of talent to go. But I think edge is almost non-existent (barring surprise sleepers), and DL is very picked over.
Fingers still crossed for McG/Dahl/Haeg/Coleman but there is plenty of OL still there.
Prosise and Cajuste would be great somewhere, but I think they need to take care of OL business first. It’s going to be a tight window.
Fackrell, Coleman, McGovern would be dreamy.
Damn.
3 of my favorite players in this entire class, go back to back to back.
KC and Seattle like the same type of DBs.
Russell is a stud for sure!
Go snag Coleman. Let him battle it out with Ifedi at rt loser plays guard….. HELLO!
Wow I knew it was Coleman time. He’s gonna be a monster.
Who’s going to love Jarran Reed more than anyone else?
Seahawks linebackers. JR is gonna keep them clean.
Very good point
No one will love him more.
Browns taking calls
Dealt second pick to Carolina
Wow. Ken Norton goes for Shilique Calhoun!
I think Norton is going to scare Calhoun into becoming better.
One of the most underrated coaches in the nfl!
FUCK! Browns stole another O line from us!! Wish we coulda got Coleman…sigh
I’m telling ya. It’s getting dangerous now.
Can’t believe McGovern made it past Chiefs!
This draft may very well lead to a flawless season for the Hawks. They are filling needs one by one, with perfect trades, steals, and sleepers. Go HAWKS!
PS. I love love this blog!
im new btw
Good for Coleman.
He fits Cleveland’s style.
Eventual Joe Thomas replacement.
Dang, though. Was slobbering over the thought of Ifedi/Coleman at RT/LG.
Cause Coleman is better hands down.
Better tape.
Nowhere near the upside.
Coleman… gone to Browns
Man, this is becoming painful
Wow!
Fackrell
Ridgeway
Hargraves
Ervin
Dahl
Haeg
(leraven) Clark
Henry
Mcgovern
Howard
Latham
All still on the board
Not to mention: Shon Coleman
Scratch that
With Coleman gone now I’m intrigued with Clark.
Wow, Worley goes early. That’s two big CB reaches for the Kitties.
I want Jordan Jenkins now.
Actually like Worley. Not a terrible pick, IMO.
Agreed. Will have plenty of opportunities there
This is gonna get really tragic for SDB fans
Good for Worley. He’s better than most give him credit for.
No! Not coleman! I wish he had at least gone to a better team.
New Clue is up!
What’s the new clue
Can you cut and paste?
Just a song from Pandora:
Michael Jackson
P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
From Thriller
Who are the youngest prospects we looked at?
Germain
Billings. Easy money
Braxton is awfully “young” and shiny at WR
I can’t watch it 🙁
Maybe teams just hate OT McGovern.
Sdb may have a higher rank on McGovern
I think we pick him at 94 or 97
McGovern, Dahl, Ridgeway, Willlie Henry, Kyler Fackrell, and Josh Perry still on board. Please, JS, grab one of these guys.
McGovern, Fackrell, Tyler Ervin, Boeringer, Brandin Bryant, Nick Vannett
Deliciously underwhelming draft for the Patsies so far.
JS on the phone…
I hope JS waits and sits on his pick unless it’s to trade down
No one but Billings I would trade up for at this point.
Ensure McG
Isaac Seumalo to Philly
Bills take Adolphus Washington and the Falcons take Austin Hooper
On phone NOW!
Trade chart consulted, WAS pick coming up. Maybe gives ol Scottie a call…
Is the new clue Kyler Fackrell?
He’s got a baby girl.
So did half the guys in the green room
Lol that was my thought
True. Really gotta like the guy
Or Joshua Perry, dude’s a beast.
Moving up?
Idk. Maybe for Fack.
Yes, I was thinking BYU.
Braxton Miller, one of McGovern, Dahl, Clark or Westerman and Jordan Jenkins for RD3 please
Seconded
LeRaven Clark was just chosen by the Colts. I am personally happy, as I did not like him.
Wow, you’re ahead of even my cable TV.
You must be getting the picks earlier than I. I am watching ESPN.
Meeeeee too
JS passing out notes!…
Fuck Colts and jets like Fack
Jets already got Darren Lee in R1
Lee plays inside for them maybe
Washington and Seumalo are boring prospects to me.
Hooper another prospect I do not care about.
Glad they were picked leaves better players for us.
Jets just took Jordan Jenkins, a LB from Georgia. Things are looking good for the Seahawks.
dude…hold off, like 2 minutes with the pick announcements. TV is behind what you’re posting
OR you could stop reading until the picks announced?
Getting close now
Seven picks to go. Keep taking short CBs, everybody.
Will Billings drop to us?
Would love to see that.
Or do we want him?
Redskins on the clock. McCloughan surely can’t pass on him here.
Don’t think Billings would be the next DL after Reed. Think they would go DE/DT or pure 3 tech. I think Billings is probably more of a straight up nose.
3 picks!!!! OMG. OmG. OMG…
It is like Christmas, but better
Lots to pick from must relax. I tell myself!
Lee and Jenkins make that a crazy front seven
Jenkins would have been a nice IRvin replacement but I’ll take Fackrell instead.
Looks like they are down to one trade card. Might be waiting this one out.
Ok 6 picks to go. Who’s still there for us for our last 3 picks?
Three picks so close!!
Was hoping Kaufusi was gonna be there, but as always the Ravens are reading Rob’s blog. And the damn Browns stole Bitonio first and now they grab Shon Coleman. Jerks. Rooting for Coleman though for sure.
Give me some Kyler Fackrell at #90 and then a double dip on the interior line with McGovern and Dahl!
Yes hoping Coleman has a great career and a long life.
Needs to get past Texans, Packers, Steelers, all 3-4 teams.
Take McGov over Fack. More important to grab him. Then Dahl.
If they miss on both, Haeg. Evan Boehm? Jack Allen? Vaitai?
Nick Vannet could be a tough buck
Kendall Fuller, a CB from Virginia Tech was chosen by Washington
By the way, is it bothering people that for the last several picks I have been telling people who has been chosen?
No, the sooner the better
Does not bother me. Perhaps stay silent when Seattle picks, but I don’t really care.
Just seems a little pointless. Is anyone relying on this board to see what’s happening?
only that it’s 1-2 minutes early compared to NFL Network…but thats just me. I can stop refreshing until the end of the round
I personally don’t care, but you are a couple minutes ahead of me watching online.
I can only speak for myself but the answer is no way. I can choose not to read your post until after the pick. besides its not like it changes anything. the pick is the pick regardless what source we get it from first. just my 2 cents
No please keep doing I prefer it over waiting!
The anxiety is too much!!!
Thx coug!
Another corner!!!
Braxton Miller just went to Houston
Man, I didn’t think it was a particularly strong draft for DBs but it seems that is all anyone cares about
Glad we are well set in that regard.
Fackrell, Perry, McGovern, Dahl, Haeg still on board. Looking more like one of these guys could be a Hawk at 90.
What do you think the odds are of us picking Ronald Blair with one of the 3rd rounders?
Possibly. Tapper is still hanging out there, as well.
Love both. Tapper ++
Decent odds
Braxton Miller finally off the board to the Texans
Damn, I had an outside hope for him.
Me too
QB 3, 1, 0
RB 1, 1, 1
OT 5, 1, 2
OG 1, 1, 1
OC 1, 1, 1
WR 4, 3, 1
TE 0, 1, 1
DE 3, 6, 4
DT 4, 5, 3
LB 2, 5, 1
S 2, 2, 2
CB 4, 5, 3
K 0, ONE, 0
2 OG rd 3
4 CB rd 3
2 WR rd 3
Packers and Steelers are the only teams in front of 90 I can see where Fackrell might go.
Braxton Miller is a texan. I wasn’t as excited about him as others were.
McGovern 90
Hargrave or Dahl 94
Wanting Alex Collins with any of the 3rd round picks. It’s frankly idiotic how little buzz he gets. 2nd best back to Ezekiel, in more than a few ways he’s better.
It is actually a pretty class of corners, it is just that there aren’t a lot that meet the Seahawk profile. Worley and Bradberry were attractive, but both have been taken. There are some smaller guys who could play the slot.
Steele I remember you being worried about not having a shot at Mcgovern/Dahl/Haeg earlier in the thread, (I HOPE TO FUCK I DONT JINX IT) but looks like we are about to have our pick of the 3! Just two more picks til our run starts!
Green Bay will probably take billings.
crap they too fackrell
hmmm… a Utah State LB goes ahead of Fackrell.
*pretty good class*
Anyone else listening to Hugh Millen on KJR constantly clamoring for a big WR? Good lordy, it’s becoming an annual broken record.
Only because they keep passing on good ones year after year.
McGovern, Fackrell, Ervin all still there
As is Dahl, Haeg, Perry, Willie Henry, Ridgeway, Cajuste.
Holding out hope for all 3!
Scratch Facrell 🙁
Fackrell gone 🙁
Vigil is like the anti-Burfict.
Damn, Fackrell went to GB
Was just thinking they might do that.
Yup, kinda saw that coming. Joshua Perry is still on board. Add him and Reed to this defense, and the bully is coming back to the PNW.
Nick Vigil goes before Fackrell!
Nevermind Fackrell went to greenba
Jon Williams, McGovern, Feeney…I feel it!
Bullard is still on the board?!! Do we take Bullard, then McGovern, then Ervin? Thoughts?
Bears already took him, he’s gone.
Bullard is gone
He aint
Bullard went to the Bears, gosh dang it.
I would be happy with that
Bears at #72
Oh, sorry. Chicago got Bullard – missed that pick.
Go Hawks!
Bullard went to Chicago
Damn Packers
I don’t think the war room liked that Fackrell pick
Too obvious.
Was pretty obvious. ‘Hawks must have known that was gonna happen, so I guess they didn’t really want him
With Fackrell gone who are the remaining Irvin replacement options?
Joshua Perry and Travis Feeney.
Now we find out how well the Hawks have done their homework … Biggest names all gone, we’re now in the grey area where people earn their paychecks.
Other than Billings of course.
Feels like every other pick this 3rd round has been a punch to the gut. Kaufusi, Bullard, Coleman, Miller, Fackrell, etc
Wonder what’s wrong with Billings?
Wow
Here we go
On the clock!!…
McGovern, Dahl, or Perry, please.
Running to the podium
Well there’s the RB!
Is this Prosise kid better than Ervin????
It was always gonna be a bigger guy. ‘Hawks got a style
Is there a comp to Prosise currently in nfl? Was all-in on Ervin, so I know nothing on Prosise.
CJ Prosise RB! Newest Seahawk
Prosise. Wow. 3rd down back for sure. Went total athlete here. Did not see that coming, but will take it.
Prosise! Ok. Check off the RB. That probably means no Ervin.
There’s the offensive weapon.
Not my favorite back, but he makes sense.
CHAWK, whereever you aret, s/o on this one!
I thought Ervin could help out as a returner. Promise has the size to be more than just a 3rd-down back.
Drops passes though
Re: Andrew Billings – It’s like deja vu in 2011 with Jesse Williams.
a Tight End with 19 total receptions last year? Sounds about right for the ‘Hawks.
Is this an attempt to get back to the Zach Miller days?
Gotta like what Seattle is doin’.
Mixing it up with some different weapons.
‘Baby Gronk’?
This is the blocking TE everybody wanted.
Old school, Vannett is.
Better than Hunter Henry. By far.
I like the Prosise pick and love the Vannett pick. I was one of the block TE proponents. McGovern and Dahl will likely be gone by our R5 pick. So what is the prediction for tomorrow?
Urban Meyer said Vannett is a move tight end only.
Have loved Prosise for a long time. Everyone banged the Ervin train and I got on board. Prosise can be special though.
The site crashed for me. Just now got it to refresh. Not exactly who we thought with the last three picks. Anyone got Odhiambo’s TEF score?
Rees Odhiambo just broke TEF: 23 BP, 27 VJ, 7’9″ BJ TEF of 2.36. He’d have to weigh 400 pounds and to have a decent wTEF.
Like the Vanett pick, not sure about the other 2. Kind of an underwhelming 3rd round.
EXACTLY what I’m thinking! I’m a big CMike fan, this def wasn’t a big vote of confidence in him. And I, like everyone else, wanted McGovern (but unlike most 12s on this site, I did NOT want Dahl or Haeg).
But I LOVE the Vannett pick!
I think giving him 25k in guarantees already wasn’t a vote of confidence. The reality is he is a Seahawk solely because he couldn’t get a job anywhere else.
I hate to admit it, but you’re probably right. I mean right now if the team decided to cut CMike, there’s really no rebuttal that I would have, they’ve given him ample opportunities to prove himself (which he only started to do late last season).
But I would like to see him on this team, contributing, helping bring another SB.
Good picks with Prosise and Vannett, but Odhiambo? I had considered him about round 6 or 7. And with McGovern still available.
Mmm. Not totally sold on those three. But hey, what do I know? I like Prosise, but probably not more than Ervin. Vannett has some promise but is it really a position of need? Honestly don’t have an opinion on Odhiambo, I think V12 might have called him at some point? What’s his TEF?
Unrelated, some fans are absolutely bizarre. I just saw some Browns fans hating the Coleman pick, there are Falcons fans losing their shit over Neal… Guess it really does drive home just how much people rely on the mainstream media for their opinions.
I thought they didn’t like Odhi. wanted to lure Henry
Odhiambo!
I like it. Another throwback man.
Just a tough, gritty, versatile player.
He’s got a ton of personality man.
Migjt not meet certain measurables, but you gotta like what Seattlebis doin’ man.
Mixing it up.
Went grit, toughness, and good otball playets man. Not the most athletic, but they inow how to play the game.
Prosise gives us that Ervin, Harvin kind of weapon.
Deadly in space on the move.
Let him develop as a RB.
He makes too much sense.
Got any notes on Odhiambo?
I can understand the other two picks, and I’m happy enough with them. Just remembered that pretty much all our TEs are off contract at the end of next year, so no harm in picking up this kid Vannett. Rawls, CMike, and Prosise has the potential to be a hell of a backfield.
Odhiambo seems to be an outlier, but I’m not even going to pretend I’ve watched any Boise State tape. So anything you’ve got I’d appreciate.
Very injury prone. Some speculation his poor workout was due to a lingering ankle injury.
I think we can say goodbye to McGovern
With Odhiambo makes me wonder what is his TEF?
23 BP
27 vert
7-9 broad
Sounds sub-3.0 to me.
Recovering from injury
Think we see him as competition at RG? Don’t see him as a LG or RT.
I see him as the 6th OL player you put in on goal to go situations. Big man that is powerful and can move people. They need a few of them… bulked up the OL in the draft overall.
Wonder why he would elect to do much in his pro day if his ankle was still bothering him that much. Bench press, maybe. But not VJ or BJ.
Odhiambo, Rees TEF 2.361344114 TEF+ 2.528894757 WTEF 74.14620517
Wow, I guess McGovern never was the guy after all.
Bye, bye Simmons. I’m now jumping right onto y’all’s Jeremy Cash train!
Hard to see him go right after odhiambo
Not over yet, might slip to 5th round
Tef score might be 2.0
Plus he gets hurt a LOT.
What a horrible way to end the 3rd round. First 3 picks were great, got our 3rd down back… and then they take an unaccomplished TE and an absolutely horrible OL from Boise State. I am shocked… this could have been the best draft in a long time for this team, what a complete waste.
i’m calling it now – Odhiambo is this year’s Terry Poole except worse cuz we drafted him higher… especially with so many other great players still on the board
I’m fine taking Vannett if we still have 3 3rd rounders and our 4th but this was it… could have made the defense better ugh
post first…research later…maaaybe.
Kenny and I live now at the top of the piece
Any player who gets drafted in rd#3 whose number one trait is “gets hurt a lot” “cant stay healthy” is 100% total Jagsfan .gif
Terrible
Wow did not love that last pick was hoping for McGovern or anyone else
He was hurt. Who knows what his TEFwoulda been healthy?
So what he doesn’t meet it? He meets TCs tough guy, won’t take your ish.
I thought he moved extremely well in the drills on his pro day, bad ankle and all. It showed heart IMO.
Prosise I can’t say it enough, and won’t.
He’s a field-stretcher.
Ervin was the same thing guys. Better RB? Yeah? Bigger, stronger? No.
That’s the theme of Seatle’s draft.
They went 100% bully.
Wanna punch peope in the mouth on offense.
And then to top it off, we’re gonna throw speed, ‘catch me if ya can,’ backyard athletes.
Procise has the WR background and hands…… very very dangerous player on 3rd downs.
He was one RB I had thought they would like…. along with Ervin.
Very satisfied with the pick. Fits a depth need and has serious upside due to only 1 year at RB. Pass blocking needs work, but is willing and has incredible feet from what I’ve seen on UTube tape.
I hope Procise learns to go up the middle or to his right. He seems so left dominant – I hope it doesn’t become too much of an issue.
Carries the ball in left hand mostly
LOL Keep both Procise and CMike in the backfield, on runs to the left, give to CJ, on runs to the right, give to CMike!
Still no center unless they move Rees there…looks like Sokoli for the future
Having the most athletic Lineman in the NFL who has also overcome a lot in his life is a good thing. He has a year in our system and I feel is better equipped to start week 1 than Ifedi. People are going to be pleasantly surprised with Sokoli I am betting
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6 or 7…REES ODHIAMBO
I just don’t get it…They are making HUGE MISTAKES!!!
Taking someone we have Never heard of in 3?
They have FAILED badly recently with drafting…
And here they do again… Conner McGovern?? NO
Some Lost 6-7 round guy that will never play…
HUGE ERROR!!!!
I wanted McGovern too, but I’ll reserve judgement until I see these kids line up for the Hawks. JS/PC know their shit… so you gotta give them the benefit of the doubt.
We’ve talked a lot about him. They’ve shown interest for months
Come on, get a grip.
You have no idea whether McGovern or Odhiambo is going to be the better pro. I don’t either. I’m a bit uncomfortable with the pick, but I know thats due to my own ignorance. I’ll wait and look at some tape, read and listen to PCJS and try to understand their thought process, and then I’ll go down the multiple exclamation mark route.
Don’t assume “we” haven’t heard of him before. You’re mad because of your lack of knowledge. Some of us get what they’re doing.
Odhiambo apparently only gave up 2 sacks and 12 pressures in over 900 snaps between 2014 and 2015. At face value I don’t like it but I’ll reserve judgement until I see him play
a month or two ago I suggested we should be discussing Vannett, and it wasn’t well-received.
But it made too much sense, not knowing when or what we’d have with Graham, and Willson being a FA next year. Drafting ahead.
Suggested a TE that could block in-line a bit better and still move. Solid pick.
Liked Sandland more
I wasn’t necessarily tied to the player, just thought the need and interest would be real.
Agreed. Solid pick with Graham making $9 million or whatever again in ’17 and everyone else at TE set to be free agents. Makes too much sense to have a guy ready to take over.
Exactly. He contributes this year, provides depth, and that $9M is a lot easier to move on from next year if Graham just isn’t the same.
Love the Vannett, Ifedi, and Reed picks, hate the Procise and Odhiambo picks.
Could you edit that name again Rob.
As for Prosise, total athlete, only 1 year as a RB so he’ll learn, but he has the typical size they look for and great speed. He’ll be a great 3rd down back. Has a higher ceiling than Turbo who was great in that roll.
3rd down backs have to be great blockers. Don’t know that he perfected that in his one year at RB. Poor blocking is why C-Mike never saw the field in the two years before we cut him loose.
He also struggled with drops, as a former wr he doesn’t seem to learn fast
Prosise was special teams MVP for notre dame. And he can catch the ball downfield. Cmike doesn’t offer either of those things
This is a fantastic draft so far. I absolutely love almost all the picks. Thrilled to get Reed, who I mocked in the first round consistently. Prosise could develop into a great player for us and certainly compliments Rawls and CMike well. I really like his size, speed and passing game chops. I did prefer Johnathan Williams but I imagine the medical was an issue for him. We finally addressed the OL comendably. Ifedi is a guy I really liked and was liked to us (good SPARQ). #GOHAWKS
Why did they WASTE a pick on a Garbage OLineman!!!!
That no one has ever heard of??? He passed none of the test!
At a point they are getting way to “Cute” To be drafting like this!
#MisearableRounds
He might have if he were healthy
Come on, dude. If you’ve been studying mock drafts, Odhiambo was a Seahawk target (just not in the 3rd round). Plenty of people have heard of him. He’s not a garbage OL. Just a little injury prone.
LOVED the Vannett pick, didn’t like the Procise pick because it’s a vote of no confidence in my guy CMike. Also, the Odhiambo pick was a bit of a head-scratcher, no McGovern???
KJR thought if Seattle picked a tight end it was a clear indication Jimmy Graham isn’t ready and may not play much, if at all in 2016.
I’ve felt that way last season. No one really comes back from his injury and plays at a high level
If that was true they wouldn’t bring him back at his high cap number. They could get rid of him with no cap hit. If the Hawks had any questions about his recovery he would’ve been released.
But why would they take the last year of his contract to pay him $9 mil if he won’t play before becoming a free agent?
Jimmy’s got two more seasons on his contract. Regardless, I think KJR got bait and switched. It’s not Graham they’re worried about. This is in order to groom a backup move tight end to be ready after Luke becomes a free agent at the end of the season.
Give it some time on the field and coaching the occur … then rant or rave
Really digging Odhiambo’s potential
Ohiambo is someone I will reserve judgement on. Have to trust the FO on this one.
I don’t get what’s wrong?
2 athletic, high upside, high character, get off the bus first guys.
Prosise is a physical specimen. Think a bigger version of Tyler Ervin.
And then, they throw 3 picks at ya in Reed, Vannett, and Odhiambo, who just want to bust heads.
Might not be SPARQd up or TEF through the roof, they meet other criteria.
Vannett gives ya inurance, and can develop into a complete TE. I thought they ere lookin aat move TEs, but I get what Seattle is doin.
The 49ers did this with Jim Harbaugh guys and SF struck fear in ya, like it or not.
Mix in freak athletes, with guys from the throwback era.
This draft is a real vote of confidence in Kristjin Sokoli. No C and all the good ones are either off the board or will be by our next pick.
Good, because every time I hear Cable and/or Carroll talk up how good Soko will be as the C, I get pumped up!
Yeah! While I am luke warm on the players we have picked, I couldn’t be happier for Soke’s chances at being the man
great point
At the start of last year Odhiambo was ranked at 113 and because of his injury he just disappeared. He could just be the steal in the draft. I had him at 215.
So far so good!
A little baffled by the last picks.
Not impressed by CJ Proisse much at all. I think they’re going for a 3rd down type that can go out for passes, which he can be okay at, but I don’t see anything special. He’s fast, but not freaky fast. He’s got good cut and acceleration, but not anything special. His power is below average. When blocking he didn’t seem to be anything special. I frankly don’t really get it. Ervin seems far more dangerous in space and Collins seems far better as a pure runner. I really feel like I must be missing something, because I don’t see it at all.
The TE Nick Varnett seems like a better pick. He moves around pretty well and he can stick his head in where it needs to be for blocks. He’s not a freak size/speed athlete but he seems like a pretty good all around player. He can block okay (although this seems to be over-rated), he can go out on routes with some short-range quickness, and he can catch. He seems like a very solid TE in all aspects of the game. I do wonder where he’s going to play though. Graham is going nowhere, and Willson has a higher ceiling. Nick’s a good TE, just doesn’t seem like a need fit.
With Rees Odhiambo, like everyone else, I’m not sure. I’ve seen some really bad measurables posted for this guy, but on tape this guy’s movement is fantastic. This guy looks like a straight up LT dancer with fantastic feet and amazing athleticism. Since this pick came out of nowhere, I’m thinking the Seahawks had some info on this kid and his massive upside athletically, that the rest of us weren’t quite able to compute before the draft. The kid seems like a total natural and a freakishly smooth athlete that slipped. I have no idea what their plans are for this guy, but from watching him it seems like he is an amazingly natural athlete that could hold down an LT spot.
I think they learned there lesson with not having a blocking te
He’s a move TE per Meyer
In fairness, we really don’t know when Graham will be back, or even what he’ll be when he returns. Willson is a FA next year. I suggested this move awhile back as it just made too much sense. Production, more blocking, depth and a hedge on Graham.
This is Willson’s walk year since I’m sure the FO will do exactly that after the season given the pick of Varnett. Regardless of how much he might improve, he won’t be better than Graham and won’t be worth the raise he’ll surely get at season’s end by some team enamored with his speed. Hope he puts together a great receiving season to raise his stock in his money year, but his skills as a backup move tight end are imminently replaceable.
They’re getting guys like Giacomini, Sweezy, Bryant, Mebane type of intangibles and physicality back.
Seattle was missing that 100%.
I’m not a huge fan of Prosise’s tape at RB, but dammit if he isn’t exciting.
You can see the potential and kind of weapon he is.
He can return punts/kicks, give ya carries at RB or fill in Rawls if needed, you know PC will usr this kid as a gunner to replace Lockette.
And more than that, he’s just a get the ball to me in space, on trick plays, he also played receiver so he understands things at receiver most prospects wouldn’t, and c
Difference is, Prosise r is built like DeMarco Murray. Prosise’s tape, b.
He also played safety and could be great on special team coverage.
They always fool us. At least we were close on some.
Well said, er written
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/726250299481018368?s=09
This stay should open some eyes on Odhiambo.
Rees Odhiambo yielded two sacks, six hits, and 12 hurries on 645 pass-block snaps between 2014 and 2015.
It’s the injury report that scares me, not the talent. Guys that get hurt stay that way usually
Odhiambo vs SDSU really strong. Reminds you of Ifedi. Long arms looks like he could stick at LT. Down blocks like a behemoth. Looks like Ifedi mixed with Coleman
Can line up at receiver.
I thought they were gonna take one of the Boise St guys. Told ya that Tony Pauline was one of the best in the biz.
Dorsn’t matter if he meets TEF. Garnett, Landon Turner, they were lookin at these guys.
Odhiambo can play 2 positionbs, maybe 3 positions.
If he doesn’t start you got a better version of Bailey. He’s no different than Dahl, McGovern, guys like that.
Not as athletic, but Odhiambo is a good O-lineman.
His tape passes TEF. Probably jumps much better 100%
So far I Gemain Ifedi and the trade down pick from it right. The I said I would use it for a Nick Vannett so that’s 2/4. Rees Odhiambo although is a gray area. I had him at 215 so I’m sure if I’m 3/5?
Disagree with the Graham narrative. Vannett hedges Luke Willson’s likely departure
Exactly.
Like Luke Willson, he hasn’t produced or played a TON of TE, but he’s a natural. He can become a complete TE. Nothing wrong the fact that yes, Seattle does like TEs like Vannett.
He’sn outlier like Odhiambo. They happen every year.
Vannett can be a hedge for either Willson or Graham, and likely get some meaningful snaps in the meantime. I think there’s just as much of a chance that Willson is on the roster in 2017 and Graham isn’t. Either way I like the pick.
Massive surprises, initial felt very let down as these guys were not projected, do not initially stand out nor follow the Hawks MO for drafting freaks but I keep telling myself you’ve got to reserve judgement…
Now taken a breath. What do I like:
Prosise is a real COP back, WR background, great athlete but clearly based on his experience his better days are ahead. Like Erving but bigger, more explosive, with higher upside overall. I was initially upset about going RB so high but this is a guy who is very different from anyone on the roster, who could make plays all over the field and offers us a new unique weapon out of the backfield. Best case: Marshall Faulk II
Likewise with Vannett; Meyer said he had worked hard, improved greatly and his best days are ahead. Has great physical dimensions but looks like he can physically develop Moreso. Production wise he wasn’t utilised highly in the offense, will be interesting to see hoe he translates in the pro game but he looks efficient. Best case: Baby Gronk
If a guy doesn’t meet a certain measurable or TEF, it doesn’t mean he’s not a good football player.
Look, I’m big a fan of guys like that as the next guy, but like I always say, we’ll never know what goes down when the look into these guys.
You can’t measure heart, you can’t teach a guy to not be afraid of contact but rather embrace it, want it, accept it. To play at a consistent, high pace physicality.
Can’t measure want to or the will.
Some guys just have ‘it.’
Yeah, I’m not complaining about the Odhiambo pick. It’s just interesting insomuch as it is a complete departure from their recent drafting history – or at least it appears to be.
They weren’t lying when they said they wanted to become the bully again. They’ve brought some serious ass-kickers in, CenturyLink is going to turn into the thunderdome this year.
Nick Vannett might be my favorite pick in this entire draft! Zach Ertz who blocks like Zach Miller. He’s exactly what this offense is missing.
I will probably like a TE they bring in later even more
What happens to Luke Willson then? Not that I’m complaining if he gets cut or anything…
Willison isn’t going anywhere, but he’s a FA next year. Graham is a hugely expensive unknown
Willson plays big in Graham’s extended absence gets paid to go to NYJ
This was a need pick to me, and I’ve said it for awhile. This vas Vannett’s first year starting and he blossomed. He can stick his nose in and block, catch, move to the slot, etc. This is a piece we’ve been lacking.
And anyone complaining about his stats, remember this is an O that also featured the top RB (Elliott) drafted and two top WRs (thomas/Miller). That doesn’t leave a lot of scraps
This draft has gone incredibly well, but there is one pretty big downside to it – we haven’t added any pass rushers. The interior pass rush is still a problem.
It is to a lot of us, me included, but it might not be to the Hawks. They want to shut down the opposition run game, force them into third and long situations where they can start bringing the heat. We’ve seen what guys like Donald and Short can do, but it’s not the only way to bring defensive pressure. They might well add a couple of guys late, then hope Jordan Hill can stay healthy. And it’s worth thinking about how many pass rushing DTs there actually were in this class? Rankins, Jones, Nkemdiche? One freak who was never in play, and two boom/bust types.
I think, like you, that they’ve played a pretty good hand so far. Still got four picks tomorrow, then the usual UDFA haul. Can’t wait to see what they do.
Who is still available to us that has pass-rush ability from the interior? I believe Ronald Blair is still on the board, and Brandin Bryant is a viable late round option.
Gonna be a hard fourth round for SDB