It’s the final day of the draft and here is the final open thread. I will post a reaction piece later today reviewing Seattle’s 2016 draft class. Kenny and I will also be recording a podcast on Monday.
Here are their remaining picks:
R5 (#171)
R6 (#215)
R7 (#225)
R7 (#247)
In the meantime, here are some of the players still on the board that we have discussed in the build up to the draft:
Connor McGovern (OL)
Joe Haeg (OL)
Joe Dahl (OL)
Andrew Billings (DT)
Willie Henry (DT)
Hassan Ridgeway (DT)
Charles Tapper (DE)
Eric Murray (CB)
Joshua Perry (LB)
Jeremy Cash (S)
Miles Killebrew (S)
Ronald Blair III (DT)
Deiondre Hall (CB)
Dak Prescott (QB)
Charone Peake (WR)
Ricardo Louis (WR)
Moritz Boehringer (WR)
Jonathan Williams (RB)
Keith Marshall (RB)
Tyler Ervin (RB)
Kevon Seymour (CB)
Travis Feeney (LB)
B.J. Goodson (LB)
Joel Heath (DT)
Kenny Lawler (WR)
Jordan Payton (WR)
Daniel Braverman (WR)
Devon Cajuste (WR)
Blake Countess (CB)
Hal Vaitai (OL)
Alex Redmond (OL)
Marcus Henry (OL)
Torian White (OL)
Justin Murray (OL)
Lene Maiava (OL)
Evan Boehm (OL)
Liam Nadler (QB)
Keenan Reynolds (QB/RB/WR)
D.J. Foster (RB/WR)
Zac Brooks (RB)
Devon Johnson (RB)
Darius Jackson (RB)
Paul McRoberts (WR)
Marquez North (WR)
Jay Lee (WR)
Jaydon Mickens (WR)
Dez Stewart (WR)
Brandon Swindall (WR)
Davonte Allen (WR)
Hakeem Valles (TE)
Terenn Houk (TE)
George Fant (TE)
Alex Balducci (DT)
D.J. Reader (DT)
Justin Zimmer (DT)
David Onyemata (DT)
Trent Corney (DE)
Alex McCallister (LB)
Christian French (LB)
DeAndre Elliott (CB)
Rashard Robinson (CB)
Brandon Williams (CB)
William Parks (S)
Andrew Adams (S)
Taj Letman (S)
D.J. Hunter (S)
I think the only glaring needs left are 3-tech, DL/OL convert, DB (maybe), and backup QB (maybe, if no TJack).
I think the team is probably set at WR/TE, so that eliminates Cajuste.
No need for McGovern/Dahl/Haeg with the OL picks of Ifedi and Odhi.
All set at RB.
A key thing to look at is our prospective 2017 Free Agents. Biggest hole I saw was at TE. If we didnt draft one now, it would have become a key hole for next year. Needed to be filled by a cheap free agent or a 2017 rookie. Drafting Vannett gives u time to develop before Luke leaves.
With money spent on Graham, it would b hard to keep Luke. Here’s to hoping he has a great season and somebody gives him a good contract to get a comp pick back.
With this in mind CB is a bit of a 2017 need. We have depth for this year, but Simon a bit of an unknown and due to become a free agent. Fullback also a good spot to find a good player on a cheap rookie contract (needs to play ST).
I agree totally with your comment, and I have been one of the most vocal critics of Tharold Simon on this board. The dude just can’t play CB, IMHO. He’s too tall, and what’s worse, he plays even taller than he is. Plays “high-waisted”. Doesn’t change directions well.
I for one would advocate relaxing the height/length standards and get CBs like Jason Verrett, whom I desperately wanted the Hawks to draft a couple of years ago.
I agree about Luke Willson, he’ll probably get a nice contract somewhere, if and when that happens, I’ll wish him the best. Drafting Vannett was a very good move.
I’ve only liked CB’s that are ball hawks. Always trying to get the ball rather than being close enough to tackle them AFTER they make the catch. Like the height with our corners because of the tall WR’s out there. Can’t just let the WR high point the ball but being able to contest every throw.
Loved Maxwell’s play in SB 48 where he actively tried stripping the guy after the catch (Didn’t do much after that.). Would Like to see more of this from our DB’s.
I do not understand your thinking. The Seahawks have been the most successful team the last few years. They have lead the NFL in scoring defense four years in a row. And yet, you want the Seahawks to change to satisfy what your team building thoughts?
Hahahahaha!, Basically, yup! That’s exactly what I want, for them to tailor their drafting and team-building to suit what appeals to me! LOL!
But isn’t that what every fan wants, to a certain degree?
Not every Hawk fan agrees 100% with every personnel move they make, even taking into account how successful they’ve been.
Well, at least you are honest enough to just flat out admit it. Props for that I guess.
Thanks, man!
I’m surprised that so many people think Willson is automatically going to be gone in 2017 after the Vannett pick. If Graham isn’t able to fully recover from his knee injury I would think the team would either ask him to restructure his deal or just cut him after next season.
I really like the potential of 2 TE sets with Willson and Vannett.
I’d still take Cajuste and McGovern. We do still need some more picks on defense, though – 1D, 4O so far.
Still good talent on board. This is shaping up like a key draft. Some immediate starting talent (Reed/Ifedi) and key role players (blocking TE and third down back). Not to mention Prosise special teams qualitied should be great there. Rees a bit of a reach, but if he was target and being unable to trade comp 5th and 6th (unless u reach into 2017 pick pot) good value judgement.
Just like we got ourselves a 3rd TE to fill the blocking role we have been missing since Miller left would like to target backup QB, safety, a 5th WR who can block and play ST. Just let board fall to u.
W/comp picks being tradeable next year not a bad deal to move your native 2017 picks if team sees need.
Let’s wrap this up. Pretty cool to see many of these picks had an affinity for Hawks.
Thanks again Rob, enjoy.
Yup, I actually was luke warm on the last 3 picks (but LOVED the Jarran Reed STEAL). I think Prosise, Vannett, and Odhi fill needs and offer unique skill sets.
Do you see them trying to get back up into the 4th early 5th to get another target?
Because they said 200 draftable guys, be interesting to see if they have some other targets in mind, right?
I think before yesterday, they probably planned to do what they usually do a lot, which is to trade down and stockpile picks. But I think when they saw Jarran Reed still on the board, they correctly traded did what they needed to do, trading the 4th-rounder, to go up from 56 to 49 and steal Reed.
I agree. They had him graded as a first round pick. I do not think it was a low first round grade either, I think it was a mid first round grade. Giving up a fourth to get a player they rated that highly is like you said, a steal.
I think he will be better than the currently 31 year old Mebane this season.
The beauty is they have their own board which sometimes lets quality players fall to them.
Though for the first time I think we are going to get great grades by the pundits. Haha ? Not that we want that. Never have and dont care.
If they see a 3rd rd value being available early 5th, could definitely see it.
Important thing is they don’t panic.
Would rather get a bad grade from the experts (Always wrong about us) BUT probably won’t because they are learning their lessons from the past and will give us a good grade regardless ?
Haha, they are at least thinking twice now about it, aren’t they! 🙂
Would love to hear the opinion from Rob or other posters who follow the Seahawk draft more than I do.
Loved the trade up in round 2 to get the stud DT Reed but looks like the draft according to Seahawk actions is in 2 halves. Must haves round 1-3 (help now) and rounds 4-7 develop hit or miss projects. By trading their 4th round pick, they’re saying no more must haves unless they trade their only tradable picks in round 7 (225,247).
Do they stand pat? Be a while for their next pick. Or do they something up their sleeve and package the 2 7th rounders to move up for someone they think is worth the picks?
The 3 picks in the 3rd round didn’t impress me (only because I don’t know the names) RB Notre Dame, TE Ohio St and the OG from Bosie St. Really thought they would pull the trigger for Dahl with that last pick in 3rd round.
Thoughts?
Initially I was kinda negative about Prosise, Vannett, and Odhi, but I’ve warmed up to those picks a little bit. Prosise is like a swiss army knife, Vannett is basically a Zach Miller clone, and Odhi plays better than he tested.
I still think 3-tech is a glaring need, hopefully some good ones are available by the time the Hawks pick again!
Agree. One thing for sure, the Seahawks sure make the draft fun trying to figure out their thought process ?
Not possible, not even the CIA, KGB, or MI6 can figure out John and Pete’s brains!
?, not even Rob?
Rob knows who Pete and John will target even before they know it!
My favorite part is that they announce very clearly before the draft what they are going to do (i.e. get tougher on both sides of the ball to become the bully again, address the o-line as priority, add unique weapons tailored to the offense, find the most competitive guys, etc.), then they go out and do exactly that and still no one can stop them.
Pete and John have draft swag LOL
Vannett could be a faster Zach. He is a legit receiving TE but – wasn’t used much in OSU’s loaded offense – with the physicality to be the blocking TE we haven’t had since Zach. I wanted this guy and I’m pumped we got him.
Even without a 4th round pick we might still be able to make out like bandits with the talent that is sitting on the board. Feeling pretty good about this draft when all is said and done.
Not sure if it was posted in the monster Day 2 thread but here is a nice sit down with Jarran Reed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etKDMRK2C4w&app=desktop). Comes across as quietly confident and quite cerebral as he quickly breaks down the work of Michael Brockers. He does mention that he was a filthy Steelers fan as a kid but I am willing to overlook it!
Really keen to see if PC and company can tap into latent pass rushing ability in Reed.
Thanks for the video! Love the quiet fire this guy has. And you’re right, I think there’s some untapped pass rushing potential there with him, especially the possibility of developing a good bull rush, considering all that strength he has.
The best thing I’ve read about Reed was that he was the Alpha Dog of that Bama D. That’s quite a compliment. Ragland mentioned it, as did our area scout.
We will forever be grateful to Mebane. This guy looks like he has some Chancellor in him.
Also loved his comments at the draft. Dude is coming here with an attitude.?
Yes, thanks for the video. The more that I watch him on and off the field, the more I believe this pick is absolute highway robbery. I liked the last video showing Brockers against the Seahawks. I think Reed has a lot of uptapped pass rushing ability. The Seahawk scout in the press conference yesterday thought so after watching the senior bowl.
Man that Vannett pick has QUICKLY became my favorite on the year thus far (Reed a close 2nd). I’ve been just ITCHING for a blocking TE since Miller’s exit and personally wanted Vannett’s teammate Heuerman, last draft. Strong, strong hands just classically underused due to OSU and his blocking helps so much in Ifedi’s development, Gilliam’s transition, and also Webb if he wins a starter role. It also brings back those clutch little TE Rub off blocks and escape to the flats and zones for Russ.
I might be in a minority, I’m not sure but in my heart I’ve wanted Jimmy on the PUP No Matter What, to start the year(if we even have a choice). No rushing the process and honestly, I feel we started slow offensively last year because we were trying to integrate from day 1, a PLAYMAKER with no chemistry or playground scheme knowledge, all the while the coaches were trying to figure his best fits on the field. We weren’t focused on our base offense chemistry, our back to back Super Bowls base offense. If we can pick up where we left off and get our base offense’s chemistry down. THEN we slowly start integrating Jimmy’s 6’6″ mismatch distraction onto the field, by playoffs all the doors and windows should be opened for a dangerous run.
My guys to watch today
Will Parks
Rashard Robinson
Miles Killebrew
Alex McAllister
Aziz Shittu
Jeremy Cash
ALSO my personal names Petes clues gave me yesterday
McGovern
Haeg
Dahl
Braverman
Jay Lee
Tyrone Holmes
And George Fant…… we shall see for Some
Reed so far is my Favorite because of attitude. You can tell this guy is coming in to dominate. JS & PC have to be on cloud 9.
Tom Cable has talent to work with now so no excuses for not protecting Wilson.
Wilson has to be absolutely ecstatic, too. A huge upgrade to the OL and blocking TE to protect him, plus a unique weapon that he has never had before in a 3rd down back, and who knows what is still cooking with the last 4 picks plus UDFA!
Yup!
My hopes for day 3:
5 DE Matt Judon, Great Valley St
6 LEO/SLB Christian French, Oregon
7 FB Devon Johnson Marshall
7 SCB Blake Countess, Auburn
Round 8
LB/S DJ Hunter Marshall
LS Jimmy Landes, Baylor
OT/OG Lene Maiava Arizona
S Will Parks Arizona
I like Judon’s potential too!
Dj hunter is intriguing
Here are kinda some of my thoughts about yesterday. When they traded up in the second, I was hoping it was for Reed. An obvious need, and like others have mentioned, I really think a few years in he can develop as an interior pass rusher. Loved that move. Was surprised at the next 3 picks a little. Rob talked about Prosise a little, he was on my list. Like the pick too. His potential is sky high. He definitely needs to work on his RB game, but IMO he might be the best pass catching RB in the draft. ST demon from what I hear too. Vannett was an unknown for me, but he’s my favorite pick. Miller was so valuable to them, I’m surprised they didn’t try to replace him a lot sooner. He can line up as FB, yes? He might eliminate that roster spot altogether, so versatile. I just think this move is huge, they’ve really missed that 6th o-lineman (who can actually block). I don’t know what to think about the BSU player, haha. In PCJS we trust.
I fully expect the Hawks to trade draft capitol from next years draft to gain an extra pick this year. I also would be surprised if BB39 cracked the 53 man roster.
Also, maybe Jason LaCaforna was referring to Feeney when he was talking about a player slipping because of medical issues. I’m hoping he’s a selection today.
During the press conference last night, Schneider said they have been looking for an inline TE for years. But, because of all the spread offenses, there just are not many anymore.
Vannett was the first inline TE that they have liked and they believe he will be a much better pro than he was as a college player.
The only pick I am still trying to understand from yesterday is Odhiambo. His athletic measurables were affected by his recovery from his ankle injuries. So we don’t have any reliable info about his athleticism. He is a right guard and I thought left guard was a bigger need. His injury history seems inconsistent with the comments about reliability that we heard during the Okung free agency.
The pick seemed to come a round or two early. Maybe trading the 4th prompted them to move up but there was no apparent “cliff” or dropoff in talent. In fact, a number of other very good O-line prospects seem to be available.
I will be interested to hear as more info about this pick becomes public.
I thought the Odhi pick felt rushed also.
I thought the same initially, but then I listened to the press conference and heard what a special player and person they see Odhiambo as. Plus we don’t fall back into the “getting cute” argument about risking by waiting to fix the OL and hoping our guys will be available later.
Especially since we don’t have a pick for basically two whole rounds, I am SO relieved and pumped we are heading into day 3 with all our real needs taken care of and can just enjoy picking some great guys at whatever positions we find them.
IMO Odhiambo is the DEFINITION of getting cute – they’re taking a guy with a huge injusry history and unverifiable athletic profile (…due to his injury history) in the vague hope that he *might* heal up and their medical staff can keep him upright in which case his upside is…no better than players they could have just picked without the injury history and risk like Dahl or McGovern who have known and verified athletic tools and solid histories in major conferences.
I’m suppose I shouldn’t be complaining too much, because their OL evaluation has been terrible and mostly he seems completely out of left field from their usual methods. Maybe that means he’ll actually be able to pass block better than a tackling dummy…
This screams a Britt situation again. Take a guy 2-3 rounds early because he won’t be there at your next pick. I hate it. You don’t reach for guys especially ones with a history of injuries. It’s a throwaway pick. Good thing we had 3 3rds.
This doesn’t scream Justin Britt at all… Britt was a reach yes but odhiambo isnt a panic move he is just who they wanted McGovern and dall are both still on the board they know something we don’t
If a reach means taking a 5th, 6th, 7th Rd guy in the 3rd, then this was a reach.
Injury-prone, miserable measurables — WHY??
Britt was a reach because of a desperate need for an OT, combined with a lack of available talent. Odhiambo is entirely different. They chose him over McGovern, Dahl, Haeg, because he grades higher for the Seahawks. This is a choice, not a reach. We can fall into putting too much on the numbers (no surprise given the sparq/tef tendencies for the Seahawks), but this guy did not test full speed due to the injury, and a quick eyeball test shows a guy significantly stronger and quicker than McGovern, Dahl, Haeg…
I am sure that not having a fourth rounder likely affected where they drafted Odhiambo. One great thing for me to hear about him is that he is supposed to be a good pass blocker. It is nice that they drafted a player that will be able to block for RW and not just run block.
That’s what my thought was as well. There is a big gap between our 3rd and 5th round picks, and they obviously really like Odhiambo. With our 5th rounder and one 7th being the only traceable picks we have left they knew they couldn’t really move up on day 3.
Oops- just realized out 5th isn’t tradeable
Yeah too bad
Agreed with the thinking, he was picked way higher than his grade. Why take an injury prone tackle for guard when we had McGovern, a mauling guard and beast of a player with a higher grade right there. I have not always liked the teams line picks in the upper rounds, I’m always surprised by the overreaching. Carpenter, Moffitt, and Britt had lower draft value and were picked way too high, Odhi is right there with them. McGovern is going to prove a swing and a miss!
Overall depth and talent base has been moderately upgraded with this draft so far, but how impactful it will be for 2016 is questionable. There are some challenges for the coaching staff:
Ifedi: Needs to adapt to a true pro-set offense.
Odhiambo: Needs to recover from injuries.
Prosise: WR convert still needs to develop as a RB with blitz pickup and reading blocks.
Vannett and Reed are both the most pro-ready. Vannett didn’t see a ton of targets at OSU and isn’t likely to see many as a rookie either. Reed is really the only instant impact player, but he will be part of a rotation and it still takes time to develop as an NFL d-lineman.
This draft has a lot of potential but I was hoping to find at least a couple of guys that could help us immediately compete for a Super Bowl. Not sure we achieved that, unless these players can rapidly develop.
I agree with you, but in fairness the Hawks already have a pretty good core, so most of their draft picks will be guys trying to find a specific niche role, or to provide depth.
I don’t agree. What does Pete and John always say? When they scout, they look for what a player can do, instead of looking for what a player cannot do.
Each of these players, especially the skill players have unique skill sets. They will ease them into situations where they will be successful and contribute.
This team was already going to challenge for the Superbowl, as it was already that good. So, you were going to improve on the margins and they really did that with this draft.
@coug: I’m sure they were looking for “what a player can do” when drafting Poole, Britt, Noorwood, Michael, Harper, etc. Obviously they saw some things to like about those guys and thought they would contribute. They didn’t. I’m looking at this current crop and not seeing guys that will contribute early either.
So, while I like this draft in terms of long-term potential, my concern remains about rookies helping us this year. Not just “marginally” helping, because the Cardinals have taken a huge step forward, in my opinion, and we need to keep up . But I hope you’re right and that they bring enough to put us over the top.
You must like Cherries for the picking you are doing there.
I’m with Coug on this one. I think the guys they got are about as ready to help us as we could reasonably hope, and all have been on upward trajectory the past year in CFB and that will only continue as they transition to the pros.
Cable said that of all the guys they considered, Ifedi had the shortest distance to go to be pro ready. Then PC said clearly in yesterday’s press conference that we will see all these guys play, just like we have seen with rookies in past years.
@ SeaMode: Pete mentioned in his pre-draft presser that he works rookies into the starting line-up gradually with spot duty and scheme specific roles in the first half of the season and then expands their playing time as the year progresses.. He mentioned Tyler Lockett as a guy who started to really develop as the year went on. But Lockett was already a superb route-runner when he entered the league and his learning curve was not that extreme. I wish I felt that way about the two lineman we drafted. Not as sanguine as Cable about Ifedi’s ability to quickly transition. Not many TAMU guys have been able to do that.
I am really glad my favourite OL prospect in this draft Shon Coleman got picked yesterday. Wish it was the Hawks but still glad for Coleman to get his shot after all he has battled. I hope he stays healthy and develops into a pro bowler and gets a big fat 2nd contract.
Since joining this amazing SDB community lead by Robs incredible work my two favourite OL prospects were Coleman and Joe Bitonio. The Browns drafted both guys. Maybe they have a lurker here on SDB 🙂
All joking aside with Coleman, Bitonio, Erving and the incredible Joe Thomas that Cle OL has some really nice building blocks on their OL. They should have kept Mack though.
And Shon Coleman announced the Aaron Donald draft pick in 2014, so hopefully that’s a good omen for him. I agree, one thing the Brownies have done well lately is draft good OL.
Anyone else think Reed falling changed their whole plan? I have a feeling they were intending on standing pat and then couldn’t believe Reed was there and threw the game plan out the window. I think they will trade up with a 2017 pick since they have only 2 7ths tradable.
Agree completely about their reaction to having Reed still on the board, they panicked (correctly) and traded up to nab him before someone else could!
I think it changed their plan only in that they had to use the final 3rd rounder on Odhiambo since they no longer had a 4th rounder.
I believe that they originally intended to draft Justin Simmons at with that pick, the guy the Broncos took right after us.
But sacrificing Simmons (or whoever it would have been) was more than worth it to get a first-round talent like Reed!
And I wouldn’t call it at all a panic given how far into R2 they waited before jumping up. They said in the press conference that they watched in awe that he was still falling and waited until it got to a point where the value seemed right to move up. (I take that as costing the 4th rounder and not one of the 3rd rounders).
I am really excited about what the Hawks have done this draft. The picks are not glamorous but this whole off season has been about brining the bully back to C-Link. This draft goes a long way to doing that. I really like every pick.
Ifedi- Is the perfect OT prospect physically for Cable to develop into his pro-type Road grading RT. He has all the tools and now it is up to the supposed OL guru to help him fulfill his potential. There is nothing holding back this kid except to fix his technique. He was my 3rd favourite OT prospect after Tunsil and Coleman and does not have they character issues of Tunsil or medical issues of Coleman. After seeing his reaction to being drafted I am not sure how any Hawks fan could not love this kid. Smart and high character with no injury issues. Love the pick as a true OL building block and bookend RT with Gilliam at LT.
Jarron Reed- We got a top 20 prospect who was the undisputed leader on a National Championship defense who plays a position of need in the middle of the 2nd round. An absolute steal. He is much more than a young Mebane. He is the best run stuffer in the class, eats up double teams like Mebane but also gets solid push up the middle and plays with an incredible motor. I think he can provide the 5-6 sacks a year we missed when Clinton Macdonald left. He is a great character Alpha male guy who will thrive in our locker room. Listening to the other Alabama players talk about this guy you can tell they loved and respected this kid. Great pick that solidifies the middle of our OL with Rubin. I expect another year of no 100yd rushers for this defense.
CJ Prosise- We all loved this guy till Rob highlighted Tyler Ervin. He is a dynamic 3rd down back already with the potential to be a great 3 down back. Ideal size and speed combo who is the perfect compliment to Rawls and Michael. I see him catching a ton of balls out of the back field year #1 giving us one of the most dynamic RB groups in the NFL. It was a position of need and Prosise / Ervin were the two best pass catching backs in the draft. We got one of them so another great pick.
Nick Vannett – Of all the picks this guy is my favourite. Another extremely high character who will do all the dirty work to help a team win. He will not whine if he does not get touches. He will help the OL run block and pass protect like no TE we have had since Miller. This was something we missed when Miller left. He also has great hands. I remember watching him in the Senior Bowl practices seeing him make some amazing grabs. He only had 2 drops in his whole career. With Willson and Graham on the roster he won’t get a ton of targets but when he does this guy will catch the ball in traffic and be someone Wilson can count on. He is the perfect compliment to the best big TE target in the game Graham and the fastest TE in the game Willson. Our TE group is 2nd to only NE in my opinion with an elite receiver in Graham and Seam buster in Willson and great blocker in Vannett.
Rees (I have to learn to spell 2nd name) – When we took this guy my initial reaction was oh crap we could have had McGovern, Dahl or Haeg our TEF favourites what is JS doing. Then I went and looked at the 3 games of tape I could find last night. Rees has one thing Haeg, Dahl and McGovern do not. He is one nasty SOB who plays with a far greater edge than any of those guys. he plays through the whistle on every snap and then some. He is also a lot more athletic than he tested on tape. My initial reaction of hating the pick has taken a complete 360. If this guy can stay healthy he will end up looking like a steal and will likely be a perfect Guard in our system. My only concern is injury. If 100% healthy I bet he meets the TEF requirements. I will go on record that Rees will be a starter day #1 on our OL if healthy.
So basically we have 5 guys who I think will not only make the 52 man roster but have a signigicant impact in 2016. Even if we never had another pick I would give this draft an A+. This scares me because I am normally pretty skeptical ager Hawks drafts.
The bully is definitely back in C Link in 2016 look out NFL.
Great post, Trevor, and I agree completely with every point you made! I guess the facial expressions of Cable during Ifedi’s pro day threw us off a bit, guess they were pleased with what they saw!
One of my favorite comments of this entire draft season has to be Rob’s blunt one-liner in response to someone arguing they wouldn’t pick Ifedi because of Cable’s facial expression at the workout. Something like:
“I refuse to change my opinion on a player based on a supposed facial expression of Tom Cable.”
If anyone finds it, let me know!
Wow, sounds good and I like analysis on Rees. Thx
If you listened to Schnieder and Carroll’s press conference, Obhiambo sounds like a Seahawk… They said that he was one of the strongest players in the draft, and has the athletic ability and has the mental toughness they love – he overcame the death of both of his parents over the last couple of years. I love the pick.
Man I hope we get Davind Oneymata today! If we get one developmental prospect I hope it is this kid because he could be the elite interior 3 Tech pass rusher we have all wanted. Every bit the athlete of Rankins but longer.
I know we were at his pro day and the Hawks scout seemed really impressed. My fear though is that the Ravens will nab him with one of their 4th round picks. The analysts will say the Ravens reached for this kid but he will be a steal in the 4th round IMO. My fingers are crossed he somehow makes it to the Hawks in Rd #5 but I highly doubt it unfortunately.
Ravens are a smart team, man! They do an excellent job scouting and drafting. Hawks, Ravens, Pats, Steelers, Packers, Broncos, great at talent eval/acquistion.
Giants most of the time are pretty good in this regard also.
Great point I agree with all those teams and that is why they are never in rebuild mode. They just keep adding talent.
Right on about those teams, H M Abdou, and right on about hoping for a guy like Onyemata, Trevor!
Although for sure they will pick someone else I didn’t have in mind that in hindsight I will say: “how did I not see that guy screaming Seahawk?!” (as has happened so far in this draft with the exception of Ifedi thanks to Rob)
JS said there were 200 players in this Draft. Our Rd 6 pick is # 215. How do you decide on a worthwhile way to use any of these further picks?
My opinion right now is that since we decided to take care of our real needs in the first two days, we can just sit back and enjoy watching them take the best player available at a position in which he might actually have a chance to make the roster. (Pete Carroll emphasized this last point in the pre-draft press conference I think it was)
I hear you, Sea Mode. Not every team has our list of 200.
Mostly because you have teams like the Browns who select players that aren’t on Seattle’s 200 list, ha!
Or the Bucs who trade up in the 2nd for a kicker
Yes that was an interesting move. At first I thought it was dumb, but they said he is the most accurate field goal kicker in college, so now I have flipped my opinion. Maybe they could have got him at a later round, but if he scores half the team points and kicks game winning field goals, then he is worth a second round.
A player to monitor that hasn’t been talked about much on here is Lawrence Thomas. Hope we bring him in either as a 7th or UDFA.
Lawrence Thomas: 6’3″ – 286#s – 33 1/4 arms – 10 1/8 hands – 4.98 40y – 1.73 10y – 35″ vert
Michael Bennett: 6’2″ – 293#s – 33 5/8 arms – 10 1/4 hands – 4.98 40y – 1.74 10y – 35 1/2″ vert
Thomas can play inside and out. Started 12 games at nose tackle as a junior and his senior season at DE. Has a motor that wont quit and his on field energy is infectious.
His biggest knock is his hand usage/technique and shedding blocks. Who better to mentor him than Michael Bennett?
He also jumped a 9’5′ – 24 BP – 4.58 shuttle – 7.53 3 cone
Will have to check him out for sure.
Chiefs took Kevaire Russell too who I think was also a Hawks target. They seem to go after the same guys we do quite often .
Yup. Not sure if JS really thought we would have a decent shot at KeiVarae in R3 anyway, and I do think he was a bit over-drafted although he certainly has great potential and KC didn’t have a R3 pick to take him with either. He and Peters are going to be some duo to throw against!
I’m interested to see if they are the ones who will scoop up McGovern too.
We still need a LB who is also a good ST contributor (and Ridgeway!).
Sounds like Jatavius Brown or Travis Feeney to me.
Give me hybrid LB/S Jeremy Cash! Easy Money…!
My Seahawks Day #3 / UDFA Big Board
Once you get to Day #3 I don’t give anyone round grades they are all developmental prospects. This is my list in order of how I like them for the Hawks. My favourite part of the draft
#1 David Oneymata
#2 Jatavius Brown
#3 Devon Cajuste
#4 Joe Haeg
#5 Connor Mcgovern
#6 Tyler Ervin
#7 Travis Feeney
#8 Willie Henry
#9 Charles Tapper
#10 Cardele Jones
#11 Hassan Ridgeway
#12 Andrew Billings
#13 Josh Perry
#14 Deiondre Hall
#15 Ronald Blair
#16 Miles Killebrew
#17 Matt Judon
#18 Dak Prescott
#19 Rashard Robinson
#20 Joe Dahl
#21 Tyrone Holmes
#22 Ricardo Louis
#23 Pharroh Copper
#24 Eric Striker
#25 Charone Peake
#26 Halapoulivaati Vaitai
#27 Alex McAlister
#28 Aaron Wallace
#29 Kenny Lawler
#30 Justin Zimmer
#31 Christian Westerman
#32 Eric Murray
#33 Brandon Allen
#34 Stephen Weatherly
#35 Daniel Braverman
#36 Marquis North
#37 Kevon Seymour
#38 Paul McRoberts
#39 Kevin Hogan
#40 Jack Allen
#41 Mike Thomas (WR S Miss)
#42 Sheldon Day
#43 Keyris Garrett
#44 Keenan Reynolds
#45 Deandre Elliott
#46 Fhan Cooper
#47 Jeff Driskell
#48 Jay Lee
#49 Stephane Nembot
#50 Caleb Bennoch
UDFA
-Mortiz Bohinger (The German freak WR)
-Vernon Adams
-Wendell Williams (the guy of 4.19 40yd dash fame)
-Torian White (Former UCLA OT) if background checks out
-Tyler Higbee (if legal issues get resolved)
-Joel Schobert – Wisconsin LB from JS old stomping grounds
Liam Nadler (QB)
Marcus Henry (C)
Justin Murray (OL)
Lene Maiava (OL)
Trent Corney (DL)
Jayden Mickens (WR)
These guys should also be in the UDFA list
Good list, man. That must take quite a bit of time to put together, and in order of your preference I might add. Great job.
Thx for taking the time to compile this list, buddy.
Cool list, but there are only 50 on the list and there are 74 picks before our next one. I know a lot of these guys are more tailored to Seahawks interest, but just wondering out loud how many of these cool project guys will still be there for us. Probably less than we hope but more than we think.
As JS always says to other GMs when he wishes them ‘luck’: “pick a pawn!”
I like Schobert a lot. Turnover machine. It’s all about the ball boss.
Is it possible to get Darius Jackson as an UDFA? We’re a run first team with an injured #1. I have all the expectations of Rawls being a beast again, but…. We need to bring in another back. I also like Tra Carson, hes an instant contributor on special teams.. Maybe even Navy’s QB turned RB Keenan Reynolds. He could be a weapon and that back-up QB we need. A scat-back that can throw the ball.
I would love some more competition, especially with CMike for the #2 spot since he really needs to be pushed. The cool thing is that, even though we are bringing him in right away as a 3rd down back, Prosise has the size to compete for early down snaps as well. It might not happen in year one, but I see why PC/JS are so excited about what he brings to the table immediately and down the road.
Keith Marshall and Darius Jackson I think are interesting options. But there is another guy they worked out who sounds like a typical Seahawks pick: Devon Johnson, RB/FB, Marshall.
From Lance Zierlein, NFL.com:
“It’s not tough to see why “Rockhead” earned that moniker — no one wants to get in the way of this 6-1, 243-pound freight train when he’s healthy.”
He would not only save one roster spot serving as FB and short yardage/goal line/backup RB, but also has great special teams value. Read this scouting report and tell me he doesn’t sound like a Seahawk: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/devon-johnson?id=2555222
Here we go, day 3!
Schobert to cleveland
Anybody up on the clues?
Haha raiders traded upp forCar’s backup
They gotta be thinking he will be a pre-season warrior and they will trade him for a million picks in four years, like the Pats do with their backups.
Crap there goes Tapper.
That boy good
ugh…and Perry. Oh well, they weren’t going to last till round 5.
Vannett. I keep reading concerns over his lack of production.
Kid played in an O surrounded by a play-making QB, the top-drafted RB, and two WRs drafted in the first 3 rounds! That doesn’t leave a lot of scraps at the table.
We got a guy who is a throw-back, just scratching his potential. We added a piece that can move around, add a blocking element we lacked, catch contested balls, move chains, offer depth, keep our other TEs movin’, etc. Count me in.
You answered your own question about the productivity. OSU had other weapons and didn’t use TEs much in their scheme.
It wasn’t a question haha! I was stating why people shouldn’t focus on his (lack of) numbers!
You won’t miss him 6’6″ 257lbs 34 1/4 arms and 10″hands when he standing next to Helfet at 6’4″ 239lb.
Teams cant believe who is falling to them
Deep draft
Perry to chargers
McG to Chiefs?
Nah, he’s too busy directing movies (see what I did there?) LOL
Tapper, Perry, Day. Three solid defensive players pack to back to back. Gonna be scraps left when we get to round five. Be prepared for a bunch of names we’ve never heard of for the rest of our draft.
I will be happy with however PC/JS surprise us given how they have hit it out of the park so far, but here anyway is my Fab4 wishlist (until convinced otherwise by any of you 😉 ) for our last four picks, with fallback option, in no particular order:
– Devon “Rockhead” Johnson, RB/FB, Marshall // Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia
– David Onyemata, DT, Manitoba // Willie Henry, DT, Michigan
– Jeremy Cash, LB/SS, Duke // Will Parks, SS, Arizona
– Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington // Christian French, OLB, Oregon
I’m always happy with what PC/JS come up with but sometimes you get hooked on a guy and feel that disappointment when you watch them go another team. I been doing these drafts since 2010 and i’m really excited about this one because I’m not doing that bad.
Germain Ifedi was my pick as well as the trade back for a pick which I used Baltimore giving up 104. So for me this was 1/1.
Jared Reed heres where I missed. I know why they did it and I think it was a great move. Disappointed about the pick 124 but it was worth it.
C.J.Prosise I missed the RB pick but not the spot they pick him in so there some satisfaction and I like it better since the guys electric at 220lbs.
Nick Vannett TE It was always my intention to take the trade down pick and grab the only Blocking TE in this draft. Believe me I’ve been looking for Zack Miller replacement since 2013. Like PC/JS said in there interview after Blocking Y TE are rare. This guy is Big. 6’6″ 257lbs 34 1/4″arms, 10″hands. He’s not the fast 40 TE like a Willson but this guy has a 4.20 20yd shuttle, 30.5 vj, 9’2″bj making him extremely. Reception targets are limited and if I get 20 catchs this is a win. Give this guy a year to learn the ZBS and he puts up 40 reception this is a homerun pick. A true 3 down TE so we can run the ball physically. This was my Thomas Rawls pick for this year.
Rees Odhiambo WOW. This was my sleeper pick at 215. He was rank 113 at the beginning of the college season and he played great but then he got injured again and he slipped from sight. This guy was part of the OL at Boise St that rushed for 5k yards 3 years ago. This guy has beautiful footwork and movement but he needs to stay healthy. I going to say I pick this guy since he’s on my list and Seattle took him.
So I’m 3/5 and I still have a
Connor McGovern
Willie Henry
Devon Cajuste
DeAndre Elliott
Andy Janoviche
Vernon Davis
1 question they was asking on the 24 questions to new draft picks on the Official Seahawk website. What are you going to buy with your money? They all have answered what ever mama wants
Cool. Props to you for so many hits this year. I am still waiting for my first!
Man, I guess people don’t think that highly of westerman/McGovern/Ervin
No new clues as of yet.
But there was a cool detail of the war room visible in the background of a video PC posted on Twitter a few min. ago. We know that their main board is directly in front of them. But on the side wall to the left of them there are different boards by teams where they seem to have placed their picks from each round. On the wall above these are specific character traits written in large letters: Open-Minded, Industrious, Respectful are the three traits visible. Just what they are looking for.
Just remember the term “Bully”. Who are the nasty guys left in the draft. Possible players they could target.
Devon “Rockhead” Johnson, RB/FB, Marshall
Jeremy Cash, LB/SS, Duke
Dem boyz bad…
I’d be thrilled with Cash
Those Cincinnati kids had some good games.
Chris Moore literally broke William Jackson III
I would love to see them get Feeney for that Outside/Dollar backer slot.
I think he’d be good as a Will too
I didn’t think about that
Well see when they finally pick again next Thursday
Anyone got the link for Seattle draft war room?
the direct link is on the home page of seahawks.com
Thank you
There goes Miles Killebrew. A lot of late round names we talked about this year are going fast in the top of the fourth.
Gus having a heckuva defensive draft for JAX –
JAlen Ramsey
Myles Jack
YAnnick Ngakoue
Sheldon Day
Look out, AFC South.
Man they might become the best D in the AFC in a year or so.
And they got Dante Fowler Jr. Back too
The thing about this draft: there’s something for everyone. Big bodies, red zone threats. Tons of edge rushers and lots of Juniors.
Why teams are taking Kenny Clark over Jarran Reed
Why tweeners are falling so far
Ricardo Louis to the Browns
Dude is a specimen.
Have some of you guys calmed down and backed off the ledge?
This is a dope a* draft class.
I thought no matter what Seattle did, it would be.
They like 200 players is BS.
Try 30-50. That’s it.
TEF, SPARQ Seattle HAD to get unconventional. The rest of the league is on to them.
Sorry that Ervin wasn’t taken, but Prosise is bigger and stronger. That’s the theme of the draft.
I’m thrilled with this draft. I can keep repeating myself but I’ll save you all the agony 🙂
I like Prosise over Ervin. The Rees pick is the only one that has me scratching my head. With his injury history he probably could have been had in UDFA. A third round pick is a high price especially since there were still very comparable players on the board with no drop-off.
It was either our last 3rd, or the end of Round 5. Sounds like they didn’t want to take that chance. I’m ok with it. Kid was rated much higher before his ankle injury
I thought he might too, but without the injury Seattle got a 2nd round talent.
Could care less about the injury history.
Seattle threw ya for a loop sayin they wanted to get healthier there?
I can’t stress it enough.
Odhiambo is the real deal. A steal, a stud. Plays pissed off, tough, punch ya mouth, I’ll do anything to make a team, play anywhere kind of guy.
A third round pick is a high price for a possible Okung-lite, though. All our TEF targets were still on the board so it’s not like it was either ReesO or nothing till the fifth round.
No it’s not.
It was a freakin’ comp pick man. A virtual 4th round selection.
Injuries are a concern, but the last one was a broken ankle. Should come back at 100%
I don’t know why everyone was freaking out. So far I have loved every pick. I remember at the end of last season and the interviews with PC/JS they talked about getting that swagger back, which I can see them doing with each and every pick they have made so far.
Well I think Reed falling was a big shake-up to their plan. And I think Fackrell got stolen from them by Green Bay
Were the Hawks looking at Fackrell?
Hassan Ridgeway scheme fit for Colts?
Better attacking 3-4 DL available
Ewes get a TE and Pharoh Cooper for their absurdly overpriced QB.
What is that big, purple plastic thing JS is carrying around in the war room?
Patriots took my guy Malcolm.
I have to watch him haul in TDs for New England. ..
Ugh.
…and Tyler Ervin goes to Houston. That’s OK. I like Prosise better.
Tyler Ervin to the Osweilers everybody
Houston drafting speed.
Fuller
Miller
Ervin.
David Onyemata gone
Close your eyes, Trevor. Don’t look at the Saints that just took David Onymata.
Crap!!!!!!!! Saints took my two favourite and most explosive DL prospects in the entire draft. Rankins and Oneymata.
I bet it gets a bad draft grade because all the analysts will say it is way too early. In 3 years this guy will be a top 10 penetrating DT in the league mark my words.
Saints must have their own version of TEF set up.
Billing finally off the board, fittingly to the Bengals.
This is what I don’t get.
We wanted Seattle to get back to the being the bully.
Guess what guys? They listened! They knew.
This draft class for me, = 100% bully.
And now the majority of fans are like ‘yeah, but…. ‘we coulda got so and so.’
What’s it tell ya about those guys if Seattle passed on them 3 different times?
They don’t have the character, chip on shoulder, heart, physicality, they want.
Re: Odhiambo.
All you have to do is look at some of the more obscure (less name recognition) O-lineman coming off the board in the 4th, and we’re not even close to being near the end of round 5. There’s every chance another org liked Odhiambo enough to take him before us.
Just cause WE focused on “tef” guys in the lead-up to the draft doesn’t make this the wrong pick. 31 other teams haven’t seen the value or need yet to select McGov/Dahl
“Bully” is not how I would describe this draft, necessarily. Just very solid so far.
Again, ReesO is the only big outlier. They didn’t pass on our TEF targets due to any unreported injury concerns because they drafted an injured player instead. What it tells us is either we are wrong about TEF and it’s value to the team or they are, and they blew a chance to get a solid center prospect like McGovern or Dahl.
What if he wasn’t an outlier?
How de we know what he woulda done healthy?
What are his spring testing numbers? That’s more indicative of the type of athlete he is. Not a pro day on a bum ankle.
That may be so. We’ll see. What we DO know is ReesO was never a name we discussed and he was taken – injuries and all – ahead of players we discussed in depth that were at the top of the physical profile we identified. Just a big question mark, not necessarily good or bad at this point.
Thinking Cajuste Goes to Green Bay at the end of this round
They pass on him…
TEF does not make a good football players.
Why are you guys subsribing to that?
C’mon man.
Half the guys commenting on this board have been saying exactly that for the last month.
It’s a point thats been beat like a rented mule for the last three weeks.
icb12 — you’ve totally missed the point on TEF if you thought it was ever projecting ‘good players’.
It was a formula designed based on Seattle’s draft trends and Tom Cable’s admitted ‘ideals’.
TEF was used to project what the Seahawks might do in the draft on the OL. That is it. It was never used to project who was good or bad.
I’m pretty sure you misunderstood me.
I was responding to V12.
TEF does NOT indicate if a player will be good. Guys have been saying that on here for a while now.
I think what he means is TEF was developed to identify guys who possess athletic qualities the hawks seem to covet.
What TEF doesn’t do is necessarily indicate that player IS or ISN’T a good player
IMO- One of the weaknesses of TEF is that all players aren’t equally tested in the drills that TEF relies upon. Some are not testing at all due to injuries, others maybe cause they don’t feel ready for testing or over reliance on pro-day #’s, spring workout #’s which may or may not be completely accurate (hand held times, fast fingered stop watches, etc.)
Bottom line, TEF is still a very useful tool for judging how athletic players measure up, compared to each other which is kind of the point.
I liked ONeymata as a player / DT with great quickness and movement skills. The TEF score was just a bonus.
I am happy with the draft no matter what happens today. The bully is back at C Link
What do Ifedi and Odhiambo have in common?
33″ arms or longer.
And who knows what Odhiambo woulda done healthy?
How many guys sit out their pro days and complain like little girl about a sore knee or sore hamstring?
Odhiambo was not far removed from having surgery on his ankle and still performed.
That shows he wants to play this gane. Love’s it, breathes it, eats it. Also showed trenendous heart and character.
Well said. We didn’t see it, but in hindsight should of.
Well, yeah, we’ve been talking about TEF not to predict future performance but to predict who the Seahawks might pick on OL. We passed on the top remaining TEF prospects for an oft injured player. That’s what everyone is wondering about.
Jim Nagy one of the best scoutd in the business, said that Jarran Reed was the best run-stuffer he’s seen in years.
And Ryan Kelly was the best C prospect he’s seen in years.
Seattle liked Kelly. They realky did.
Any thoughts on what position we draft next? LB, WR?
Whatever the position it will be a name we’ve never discussed or heard of.
QB 3, 1, 2, 1
RB 1, 1, 2, 1
OT 5, 1, 2, 2
OG 1, 1, 3, 1
OC 1, 1, 2, 0
WR 4, 3, 2, 5
TE 0, 1, 2, 1
DE 3, 6, 4, 1
DT 4, 5, 5, 4
LB 2, 5, 3, 5,
DS 2, 2, 3, 2
CB 4, 5, 5, 4
PLACEKICKER 0, ONE, 0, 0
7 QB
5 RB
10 T
6 G
4 C
13 WO
4 TE
14 DE
18 DT
15 LB
9 S
18 CB
And a second round kicker
49 offense
75 defense
….And a second round kicker
In a pear tree?
Saints traded up to get Onemayata my guess is Min wanted him too he seems like a Mike Zimmer project. Too bad for the kid he never got to go to Minn with one of the best DL coaches in the game.
V12, I haven’t seen many people trashing the draft as much as you defending it. I would say most people are pretty happy with the draft. Relax and enjoy, a long wait until the Hawks pick again.
I would have preferred to stay away from another G in the 3rd and maybe went DE somewhere there, but I like the Hawks draft. Possibly 2 OG, 1 DT to stop the run and maybe get some push up the middle on passing downs, a at worst 3rd down back that could probably do a lot more and an all-around TE.
Last night some guy was ranting until we started talking up Odhiambo’s potential.
Very solid class that checks a lot of boxes. Hard-nosed players
Sorry Ed. I’ll contain my excitement for ya.
There’s more Seahawk fans out there. It doesn’t just pertain SDB.
There goes Boehm…to the Cards. 😛
I loved the trade up in Rd #2 but man if sucks having to wait almost 2 rounds for a pick.
40 more picks to go!
It’s a tough wait, but think of all those fans of 31 teams who said “dang, I wish our team had 3 thirds!”
I can’t imagine being a rams fan. 1st pick and then none until day 3.
Brutal. Next year will be lean too
@sdcoug and @veryal… EXACTLY
The craziness of the draft is we got 2 guys we WANTED/COVETED @ #31 (after trading from #26) by #49.
We don’t have many holes and we have definitely addressed the NEEDS.
The Rams dropped everything into Goff. If he doesn’t pay off, man oh man…
Christian French is the best option for OLB. Great kid. 6’5, 250, 4.7 40, would of easily been a day 2 pick if not a pectoral injury which is fully healed!
Damn. I did a piece on both Deiondre’ Hall and Evan Boehm
Not going to be much left of the names we’ve discussed at 171.
Thank you Rob.
I’m not disagreeing about TEF. I think it’s brilliant work.
But, some guys seem to think becausr you introduced us to it, thatit means anyone who doesn’t meet it, isn’t a good player.
And Odhiambo might have. We have no idea.
I never thought about Reed being a potential pick because I thought he’d be long gone by the time we picked at #26. If anything, he’s just like the James Carpenter pick (dominant lineman at Alabama when we wanted to improve physicality), except I never thought Carpenter was very good (although he finally had a legit year in his 5th year for the Jets).
Thinking Reed would be gone at #26, the thought of him being our second round pick was pure fantasy.
As disappointed as I am not to get Fackrell and/or Hargrave, I “get it” with all the picks. How fun would it be for us to get a guy like Dahl in the fifth? lol
Speaking of guys who are still available, people talked about Westerman being a potential first round pick, too. He’s still there and it’s almost the fifth round.
I would watch for the potentially of Travis Feeney in the 5th. IMO, his upside is up there with Fackrell.
If you told me a team left the draft with Reed and Ifedi I would have guessed that their first pick was at 15-20.
Fackrell overated and has an injury they could hurt him long term. He can’t cover in open space.
Baltimore takes Willie Henry.
poop.
Baltimore is having a great draft (what else is new?).
The more I dig in, the more I LOVE the Vannett pick.
A pretty damn ferocious, ruthless (damn near dirty) blocker. I think there’s plenty of untapped receiving potential too given that the Bucks had Elliot, Thomas, Miller, Marshall and QBs that run.
Big dude too, who’s floor I think is Matt Spaeth; a supersized blocker who can use his height to post up in short yardage/red zone. His ceiling? Well, there’s a couple guys that come to mind but it’s almost blasphemous to say.
Right there with ya. LOVE the Vannett pick. I’ve been clamoring for Zach’s replacement ever since we lost him. Mission accomplished.
And, I don’t think it reflects upon Jimmy/Luke at all.
It allows both to detach from the line, where they’re both better off.
Agree completely. Love the pick particularly with a young developing OL. A great blocking TE is a huge asset.
He’s got some of that douche bro to his playing style too, in a good way. Gronk and Kelce have that, Shockey had it, Bavaro had it.
I’m just gonna pat myself on the back cause I advocated this pick and need awhile back. If the Hawks ever need someone to get 1 pick out of 9 correct, they should give me a call as I’m currently available haha
Just from watching a few highlights, even when he’s half-ass blocking he looks great. Vannett is essentially the Hawks “traditional” TE of the future. He probably won’t put up many stats, but he will be a better blocker than Willson and Graham from day one, and that’s valuable.
2 positions of somewhat need for me:
DE
LB
DE, Judon, Blair, McCalister, Fanaika, Cowser
LB, Feeney, Wallace, Weatherly, Jatavis Brown, Striker
Some players are definitely still there.
Fanaika is a stud.
Was JS looking at him or DB/LB Tevin Carter?
Travis Feeny is who I am hoping we can pick up in the fifth. I am shocked that Kenneth Dxon is still available at this point but we already have Prosise so not a need.
And as soon as i say that Dixon is gone bot ohh well.
Ravens reading our mail – Willie Henry at 132 and Kenneth Dixon at 134.
Can someone tell Bucky Brooks to stop speaking into the fan?
Hawks obviously read the tea leaves on McGovern, Dahl, Westerman, Haeg appropriately.
Good testers, yes. But obviously the football people aren’t loving the film.
Dak Prescott went to DAL
Girls get their Quincy Carter 2.0 QB – Dak Prescott.
I maid the mistake of disregarding the tight end position this year, thought they’d address it in late rounds or UDFA. In retrospect I was a fool. Caught off guard by it but now LOVING the Vannett pick.
I think we may all have underrated what a crucial and important stud of a football player Zach Miller was. His importance may have got lost in the video game numbers that Gronk & Jimmy were putting up.
Loved your douche bro comment hahaha
I know I did.
Totally thought they were moving away from TEs like Vannett.
But, he’s got that Gronk to him.
Thinks he’s a pretty cool guy. But, I like that!
Figured they would draft a TE, but thought it would be much later.
That’s a good pick for Dallas.
Yeah, I was kinda hoping he would be a Hawk.
Those Gronk and Sherm jerky commercials are kinda awesome.
Cardale “12 Gauge” Jones goes to BUF
I gotta say, I like Indy’s draft.
The AFCS might actually be some good football.
RD1 Ryan Kelly, C ‘Bama (Doug Baldwin’s guy)
RD2- TJ Green, DB, Clemson
RD3- Le’Raven Clark, OL, Texas Tech
RD4- Hassan Ridgeway, DT, Texas
RD4- Antonio Morrisson, LB, Florida
Attacking needs aggressively
I still really want one of Cajuste, Braverman, or Boehringer at WR. Cajuste just has Seahawks written all over him, Braverman is super shifty and could be a hidden gem, and Boehringer is a FREAK of nature…I wouldn’t mind if they resorted him for a year. Getting Cajuste is a priority though, I guess he’s my man crush this draft…
That’s an interrsting discussion.
They’ve never taken a WR after the 4th, their VMAC visitors at the position were late-UDFA type targets.
Let’s see if they do in fact take a receiver after round 4.
Yeah that’s true. I think they would have to draft Cajuste, so it will be interesting. Braverman might be one of their priority undrafted guys, ditto Boehringer.
Haven’t they taken several WR in the first
I worry with Boehringer the NFL will try to make us play in Europe, often. Don’t want that headache.
we already travel too much.
I like that given their poor record in round 4, they completely skipped it this year. 🙂
I was just thinking the same thing yesterday when they traded up in the second.
Damn, 49ers took Blair and I was really hoping to scoop him in these late rounds.
Broncos took Connor Mcgovern
McGovern just went to DEN
Of course. The Donkeys get McGovern.
McGovern to Denver!
We can all agree that Rob’s Trench Explosion Formula identifies the candidates who might enter the Seahawks Technique Development Academy.
It’s looking like there’s a second Formula that further seperates the candidates. One that relates to the mental side. Unfortunately this is information we aren’t privy to: Does the player learn well? Can he think on his feet? Does he care enough? Can he relate to his teammates? Etc..
It means we kind of have to extrapolate who guy the player really is from whatever clues we can find. Sort of becomes a detective story.
I’m wondering if of all the guys remaining, they felt Odhiambo had the best combination of 1) Guard toughness and upside and 2) realistic swing-tackle potential
There goes Connor McGovern rip
So aside from Dahl, who are our remaining OG/OC options?
Haeg?
Seems more like a swing tackle, but possible.
Hal Vaitai from TCU also.
Joe Haeg.
Dang it, Blair gone to the 9ers.
Cards pick right ahead of us at 170. They better not take Cajuste.
Panther’s are just drafting corners
Throw enough at the wall, one is bound to stick.
I like this Rashard Robinson kid.
Tall, long arms, press man corner, plays the run. 4.3 speed. Recovery ability.
He’s a good gamble.
There goes McGovern. Sniff, sniff….
Seattle traded to 147!!!!!
Wow!!
We just traded up to 147
It was MIA’s pick… Traded to NE and then we got the pick from NE
We trade 243 this year and a fourth next year. Ouch.
Hawks trade back up?!!
Seahawks on the clock guys!
wha??
wow
The Ravens are doing flat out robbery out there.
Stanley, Kaufusi, Judon, Henry. Think about trenches.
Seahawks traded up with Patriots.
Dolphins?
WHAT IS GOING ON
147 for 225 and 4th rd next year
Quinton Jefferson, DL, Maryland
Quinton Jefferson?? And we gave up a 4th next year…
Yeah. The comp pick we get next year should be a small move down
true the Irvin comp pick had to be in their minds for that one
There’s our hybrid D-lineman.
This kid was productive.
I like it.
Panicky pick :/
Quinton Jefferson, DT Maryland. uhhh…ok.
We give up next year’s fourth for this guy? Help me out, everybody.
Love this pick, very underrated, not much of a drop off from Bullard, I think. One gap inside penetrator. Mature player, married.
Love it! Found this guy back in January. But he wasn’t a big name so he was overlooked and underrated. Watch some tape on him stayed in the back field. Got an int against Michigan off a tip by running to the ball.
I have no idea who he is
Jefferson started three games in 2014 (eight tackles, one for loss) but suffered a torn right ACL against West Virginia. He came back with a vengeance for his redshirt junior year, earning honorable mention All-Big Ten honors with 12.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, interceptions, and a blocked kick.
Hmmm…
Umm why did they feel the need to move up and draft this guy?
Size attitude
My question exactly.
Quinton Jefferson. Nice pick. Seattle got their pass rushing 3 tech. Underrated player in my view.
At what price, though. Was the move up necessary?
Next year’s 4th rounder and one of this year’s 7. Seattle saw value in him. Pretty stoked about this one. I’ve mocked him to Seattle a few times.
We just got raped
Chill. An early 5th now is considered equally or more valuable than a late 4th a year later. The timing matters – you get your guy now.
We still pick this round
Bucs select Caleb Benenoch
Quinton Jefferson good pick, interior rusher. Seems like a mature guy, too.
C-dog, here’s your boy!
Everyone wanted a pass rusher.
This is it.
Ony a junior, hae over 10 TFL, he s long, quick off the ball, physical, had 6.5 sacks IIRC.
Might not be the name ya wanted, but he’s got the skill set of Blair d Tapper.
It will take him a year or two to see the field though
Maybe, maybe not.
He gives Seattle a versatile chess piece on the D-line.
Don’t count him out of the rotation. He’s a mature player, and they traded some value in next year’s draft to move up for me. I think he’s going to surprise some folks.
Yup! Very excited about this one. I think Hawk fans are really going to like this guy. Good motor, mature, pure one gap penetrator. Love. This. Pick.
after watching some of his tape, seems like his primary move is the swim, and it seems to work often.
He’s got a great swim. Not super quick twitch, but neither was Bullard. Tackles with authority.
I like it
Jordan Hills replacement.
Sounds good as a player, but I don’t dig the cost to get him.
I think that considering what they gave up, they saw a lot of value though. Inside rush was a big need. This is what he does.
What Seattle use to move up?
243 and next year’s fourth.
“Movin’ on up” for Jefferson? Perfect!
Hahaha!!! Very good!
Was that a draft clue?
Ha, nice.
Giants pick is Paul Perkins
Not a fan of giving up picks like this. Seems pretty unremarkable from an athleticism standpoint too, and not unbelievably productive.
How many times has Rob talked about needing an interior DL to get 5ish sacks? They think this could be that guy.
12.5 tfl and 6.5 for an interior guy? That’s very good production. Nearly identical 40 and 10yd split as Joey Bosa with 22 extra pounds. Good short shuttle too at 4.37 (also a hair behind Bosa).
His Youtube highlight reel definitely shows pass-rushing skills.
He seems to use his hands very well.
We still pick in the 5th, 6th, and 7th.
Gave up a 4th next year. And? We can trade comps next year and we got a 4th round conp coming for Bruce Irvin.
Exactly, do not see the problem with this pick. People wanted a Blair/Henry type player, but they are gone. I like this pick, they’re preparing for the possible loss of Hill, or if he is unhealthy. Plus they still have another 5th and like you said, we’ll definitely get a 4th round Compensatory Pick.
I agree, no big deal.
Never heard of the guy before, but now that I’ve looked into him a bit, love it!
you guys keep saying you don’t like the cost. we traded a late 4th next year for a high 5th this year. We get our hands on a guy a year earlier. Not sure how that’s “such a huge cost”. 7th rounders are not likely to make a team anyhow, so that can’t be everyone’s issue.
That’s all fine. He better contribute, though.
he’s a 5th rounder…they don’t all contribute, especially right away. relax. 1st rounders are less than 50% successful, so cut them some slack on a 5th rounder
Then why throw away next year’s fourth?
lol…never mind. keep your anger about a mid/late round draft pick. I’m never going to convince you of anything, so stick with what suits you
We could have stayed at 171 and taken someone who won’t play. That’s all I’m saying.
but we did stay at 171
They probably think next years class isn’t as good as this years.
147 this year for roughly 125 next year. That’s a perfectly reasonable deal. I’d imagine via trade chart numbers, Seattle actually got the better of the deal.
Agreed. Let’s step away from the ledge. JS doesn’t just give away draft picks unless he sees value
We give up roughly 125 next year for 147 this year. The 7th round picks are really not of consequence. That’s a perfectly reasonable trade.
Bears pick is Jordan Howard
QB 3, 1, 2, 3
RB 1, 1, 2, 3, 2
OT 5, 1, 2, 3, 2
OG 1, 1, 3, 1, 1
OC 1, 1, 2, 1
WR 4, 3, 2, 5, 1
TE 0, 1, 2, 2
DE 3, 6, 4, 2, 2
DT 4, 5, 5, 4, 1
LB 2, 5, 3, 6
DS 2, 2, 3, 3
CB 4, 5, 5, 6, 1
And a kicker
Another rb
there goes Dahl to the lions
Dahl to Detroit
Dahl to Detroit.
Joe Dahl to Detroit
Good fit for him
Another one bites the dust…
Giving up a 4th next year is irrelevant. We have 2 anywas.
Even if Jefferson doesn’t see the field, it’s okay to draft for future needs.
Why would Tapper, Blair, Hargrave, etc. see the field early but not this guy?
Very underrated. In any othe draft year, he’s a 3rd round talent,
Yup! I think he will probably see some action in the NASCAR, he’s built for that. Telling y’all he will be a fan favorite, me thinks! GO HAWKS.
C-dog, your one of my favorite guys here at SDB to talk, debate, and discusd with.
You called this one buddy! Very cool.
Point is, I trust your eye.
Thanks, Buddy. I appreciate that! Yeah, you’re totally a big fav of mine, as well.
I still see westerman and allen are still on the board hmm…
Detroit’s pick is Joe Dahl
Double double down on the trenches
I still want Cash.
Don’t we all.
I carry credit and I Kerry Cash (for all you posters of a certain age!)
Cajuste will be our next pick. That’s all I got left 🙁
I hope we get Travis Feeny with our next pick. We already selected two offensive lineman and can pick up more in free agency.
Feeney or Aaron Wallace.
I think we wanted mcgovern
Gave him up for Reed
If they really wanted him they would have got him. They wanted Odhiambo to be their OT pick that’ll transition inside
Washington’s pick is Matt Ioannidis
we needed a nickle pass rusher…. and they moved up to get their guy
2 OL, 2 DL, RB, and a TE, What are needs now? Who’s still there? Never have too many Pass Rushers!
Solid.
Combo of Reed and Jefferson could be nasty – together they make the complete package.
IN OUR VIEW: A two-year starter, Jefferson started as a defensive end as a sophomore before moving inside as a junior in 2015, finishing among the team leaders in tackles for loss and sacks – takes a business-like approach to the field because it is more than a game due to his family dynamic. He has a basketball background and moves well for a 290+ pounder, showing the early quickness to launch off the line of scrimmage and infiltrate the backfield. But Jefferson gets himself in trouble when he allows his pads to rise and base to narrow, allowing offenses to successfully run at him.
Although his effectiveness drops if he doesn’t win with quickness off the snap, Jefferson has the athletic traits and workable frame to be a quality three-technique in a defensive line rotation.
–Dane Brugler (4/28/16)
It’s cool, if they run at him Reed will have his back and b-slab that RB
I said it above. 4th round is Hawks weakness. Good they got rid of next year’s 4th as well.
Not enough info on Jefferson. Lets get to YouTube.
Yes, sir
You will love his highlight reel on YouTube. Fun player to watch.
Very Vernon Butler light. Clean pass rusher though
So, maybe WR or DB next?
I am surprised that alex collins and devon cajuste are still on the board
Eagles’ pick is Wendell Smallwood
Jefferson.
Go watch his highlight reel before immediately judging. Some really nice penetration there.
(I wrote above also) He also seems to have good hands.
No kidding. I’m impressed. He’s not a guy that blows linemen off the bowl, but he looks great at knifing between guys. If they could build up his strength a bit more so he CAN knock guys back a little when needed, he could be extremely disruptive.
I imagine they have one purpose in mind for him: pin your ears back and get into the backfield. If he gets knocked off-base, you still have Bennett, Reed, Rube, Bobby to deal with
During the season, this is why Iost whwhat games Seattle scouts are at.
Every pick so far, they scouted that game in person.
Jefferson is a production machine.
Some of the meh production at DT on 3rd downs have been put on notice…… produce or you are going to be gone by game #1 in 2016. (Williams / Marsh / everyone else on DL)
* I post what games Seattke scouts are at it shoulda said
Williams is already gone. Marsh is edge. I think Jordan Hill might want to come out of the gates with his hair on fire. IMO, Jefferson can legitimately push Hill.
Very well. For the price paid let’s see him stay healthy and contribute something.
Browns select Jordan Payton
Colts select Joe Haeg
Indy got Kelly, Clark and Haeg. Could be a complete OL makeover?
Yeah… One of my best friends is a Colts man. With the exception of Castonzo/Mewhort, the OL needed help
Gotta protect the franchise.
Lions and Dahl, good fit/pick for both.
Dahl and Haeg both gone
I think that we go with either a LB or WR. Possibility of a DB too. I’m hoping for either Feeney, Cajuste, or Charone Peake.
Bills select Jonathan Williams
Rumor, Scooby Wright might be next pick for Seattle
I think he might be too.
Did you see him eating Skittles?
Was that a clue?
Holy shit!! I forgot that guy even existed!! That might be awesome.
Do we need another ILB or an OLB?
simple answer… yes, for depth pick
Hope not. Doesn’t seem like what we do at all. Scrappy production machine, but where’s the athleticism? Couple of corners I still like, lots of OLB prospects still available.
Heck, for that matter, three safeties I like, including Deandre Houston-Carson. Woot! Go Hawks!
I’m Feeney Feeney Feeney, all the way, but would love some Scooby.
FWIW, I think the Bills are killing it so far. Browns are still being Browns, I think, with a good run of picks but some guys that don’t really excite.
Titans select LeShaun Sims
Next two picks could be any position. Probably at pure BPA right now
Let’s get Scooby Wright man,
He’s a mixture of Brock Coyle and Cassius Marsh.
STs demon.
Good developmental type.
Tough,gritty, high football IQ, always around the ball, just makes plays.
Plays best in big games/moments.
Yeah, I think he’s immediately a special teams starter.
Cajuste first.
Lol you reading from the “describe a white guy” thesaurus ?
Was that Jason Hanson that announced the Dahl pick?
Yes
Fitting
Is there a sparq freak DB still out there?
S. Miss CB Kalan Reed, Colorado St CB DeAndre Elliott, Nebraska CB Daniel Davie, Auburn CB Blake Countess
I like Elliott – 6-1, 32 inch arms and 41 inch vert. Decent tape too.
I would be happy with Cajuste, Feeny, Wright (interesting more than I pick I would love), or Cash maybe…
DeAndre Elliot, lots of good choices still around.
I didn’t realize we got 243 back from NE in the trade earlier. Initially thought it was 147 for 225 and 2017 4th rd pick.
NE: 225 and 2017 4th rd pick
SEA: 147 and 243
So we didn’t even lose a pick? Basically moved next years 4th into a 5th this year? (and a high 5th, and as we all know next years 4th will be a low 4th)
Good deal
Exactly… The 4th rd pick next year will be essentially replaced by a comp pick so we moved up 18 spots and in the 7th rd and got another pick this year.
*back 18 spots
Jets select Brandon Shell
Brandon Shell to the Jets. He was one I was kinda hoping for.
QB 3, 1, 2, 3
RB 1, 1, 2, 3, 5
OT 5, 1, 2, 3, 4
OG 1, 1, 3, 1, 2
OC 1, 1, 2, 1
WR 4, 3, 2, 5, 1
TE 0, 1, 2, 2
DE 3, 6, 4, 2, 2
DT 4, 5, 5, 4, 2
LB 2, 5, 3, 6
DS 2, 2, 3, 3
CB 4, 5, 5, 6, 2
And a kicker
A lot of big WRs available…Cajuste, Peake, Garrett, Thomas, the German kid. Hmmm.
I want BOEHRINGER!
WR Cajuste or LB Wright would be nice picks in bottom of 5th
Texans select K.J. Dillon
Ten more picks…
Dak Prescott still available?
I believe he went to the Cowboys in the 3rd or 4th
Yup, he’s a Girl.
Yup, Cowboys drafted Dak.
Vikings select Kentrell Brothers
A two for one! Probably my favorite name in this year’s draft.
Nice pick in 5th round
First rd 5 lb and s back to back
Westerman is gonna look good next to Mitch Morse
Didn’t Morse go to KC? Bengals got Westerman.
Dammit.
Bengals select Christian Westerman
Jefferson has more than an 80″ wingspan.
He matches what Seattle likes for their pass rushing DTs.
10 yard split. Highly important for them. Jefferson’s is a 1.69.
Knifes into the backfield, watch how he alters RBs lanes, creases, and keys. Impressive. Flys off the ball, elite swim move.
He lives in the gaps. That’s a Seahawk DT.
Hope he becomes Clinton McDonald.
Excellent write up, makes 12s feel great about that pick!
negatives: he gets washed out of rushing plays and struggles vs double teams
positives: can collapse a pocket or at least put pressure on QBs from the DT spot….. a need Seattle has had on and off for the last 2 years. Best part, he should only be on the field on 3rd down or 2nd or 3rd and 10+ situations, so the issues vs the rush should be minimized.
He manufactures his own pressure. Beats single teams
Sounds like exactly what we need.
Well, if Quinton Jefferson starts garnering double teams in nickel, I think we’re in pretty good shape! 🙂
As I posted above, I think they have one job in mind for him: pin his ears back and get into the backfield. If he gets knocked off-base, you still have Bennett, Reed, Rube, Bobby to deal with.
So really the only reason we haven’t focused on this guy is because of injuries? With all that info I’m no longer surprised or upset with the pick. Thanks V12!
Solid, solid pick. Kid’s going to come in and work his backside off. I think if he stays healthy, he’s going to be a fan favorite.
Thanks for the props above, Volume 12. If you didn’t catch my response, you are absolutely one of my favorite contributors here. Really appreciate your insight, and football smarts. You’re a solid dude to chat with.
I have never seen many DTs “juke” the way he does. I can’t believe how impressive it is. That’s a mans-man rushing the pass rusher. Love the pick. That “juke” might allow him to be somewhat effective as a rookie! I remember the way Warren Sapp would “juke” or studder-step before attacking with quickness. Bruce Irvin has absolutely zero “juke” ability. Jefferson has it. It’s not something you can teach or time either, you either have it or you can hope to get it a little bit… I’m impressed.
Yup. Solid pick at this stage.
Chiefs select Kevin Hogan
I kinda liked Hogan ans a possible BUQG target.
BUQB
Solid back-up, could eventually become a starter in 2 years. Winner.
I’ll second that.
Or 3rd, 4th it. Haha.
I’m a big fan of QB Kevin Hogan,
Woulda been a great fit for us.
Trevor Davis a nice pick for the Cheese at 163.
Next pick might be a wideout.
WR coaches in the war room.
WR, LB, or CB.
Cajuste.
Please…
Cajuste…. the draft would be an A then……. HR pick for Seattle
Or Boehringer.
German Megatron
Boehringer, Charone Peake, Cajuste.
There’s also Tulsa WR Keyarriss Garrett and Udub’s Jaydon Mickens.
W. Mihigan WR Daniel Braverman is electric. COD skills are unreal. Impossible to tackle, runs routes like Baldwin.
Measureables comparison they just had on NFL Network shows he is very similar to Mike Evans
Packers select Trevor Davis
Vaitai to the Iggles. Solid.
Vaati Vaitai is an Eagle
I loved him as LG prospect.
Well, all the TEF guys are gone…
Vaitia taken. Last Tackle I really wanted.
I wonder if Seattle would take Udub DL Taniela Tupuo and convert him to FB.
He worked out as one and ran FB drills at his pro day.
It’s uncany how comparable his athletic measurements and #s are to Will Tukuafu’s.
Don’t forget Kache Palacio
Interesting that Jack Allen is still on board. Feeney there. Scooby Wright. Cajuste. Jeremy Cash there too.
Have some fun guys. Enjoy seeing your favorite players get drafted. Having the players get drafted by other teams validates everyone’s analysis.
The negative attitudes and absolutes are really a downer.
Have fun guys. This is a game.
Great post.
We’re on deck
Working ☎
Did we trade up again?
C’mon, boys — how about some CB possibilities.
Fuck em
DeAndre Elliott would be sweet.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/deandre-elliott?id=2555535
Thx, Dhawk.
DJ Reader to Texans. I thought he looked like Mebane’s twin.
Good player for them.
Browns select Spencer Drango
Heard they were going to take Ivan Drago. 🙂
Don’t mind giving up the future 4th because it’ll be easy to get a new one.
We got a third for moving down five spots this year. No reason why we can’t do that again.
That’s a good point.
You do have to realize though that it is abnormal to get a third the way we did it. Supply and demand. We only got a 4th a few years ago in the Vikings trade. But agreed. We can and probably will get it back.
I’m hoping for Feeney, wouldn’t be surprised at Elliot though. I could also see D.J. Hunter coming in here earlier than expected.
Lions select Antwione Williams
Hey, how bout that 400lb Baylor TE? Anybody in on him?
What happened to 247?
Moritz Boehringer would be terrific
Him or Cajuste. Cajuste is probably a better run blocker so that likely gives him the edge.
Boise St’s Marcus Henry is a possibility at C too.
I think Cajuste, Feeney or another LB / Special Teamer. Or the annual 5th round DB.
Cardinals select Cole Toner
Going to think Scoob, Feeney or Wallace here. Possibly, Cash, maybe Jack Allen, or Cajuste. CB’s Mike Jordan or Seymour.
On the clock!
David Perkins or Boehringer please.
hoping for cajuste
Wow… Another RB. Crazy!
Hawks select Alex Collins, another RB!!!
‘Hawks select Alex Collins
Alex Collins RB
Wow what a steal
I love this pick. Sure I would love Cajuste or Freeney, but I don’t know poop regarding there medicals or personalities. That said, Collins is truly a beast. Really stoked for 2016.
Whoaa didn’t see that coming.
Lol Mike Salk going crazy
Can’t wait to hear what Brock Huard has to say.
I live in California and I can hear him cheering!
alex collins RB arkasas
Alec Collins. Well there you go. Loaded at running back now.
Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas
I wanted him instead of Prosise… interesting
Ale x collins?
Whoa! Alex Collins. Forgot about him. Five deep at RB now.
That doesn’t bode well for Christine Michael. Maybe there is more to Rawls injury than we know.
Yup, bye bye to my guy CMike. I have no problem with this pick, CMike has had ample opportunities, maybe no longer?
He has the upside of Michael without the fumbling issue. I love it.
I can’t see why they’d be leery of Michael.
All he did the last few games was:
16 carries 84 yards against CLE.
6 carries 6 yards against STL (admittedly the whole team stank), Bryce Brown was 7 for 9.
17 carries for 102 yards against ARI.
21 carries for 70 yards against MIN in an Ice Bowl where Marshawn took all the practice carries then didn’t board the plane.
0 carries against CAR where Marshawn came back and we fell behind 30-0.
Maybe not a guy you want being your bell cow, but that sounds about as good as half the starting RBs in the league.
Loading up.
Alex Collins. Stud back, but again, didn t test well athletically due to an injury.
One of my favorite backs in this class.
So similar to Thomas Rawls.
NFL.com comp iin the NFL is Chris Ivory
Love this pick!!!
Probably the highest guy left on their board. Too much value to pass up
There’s a heck of a surprise
James Carpenter turned into Alex Collins!
Christine Michael is going to be in a really tough battle to make the 2016 roster.
If they only carry 1 FB, then there is plenty of room.
I mean…ok, they must be doing BPA at this point…
Bye-bye Christine Michael. You won’t be missed.
Called both of these picks in last nights threasld. trading a 2017 pick to move up to get a nickle pass rusher. And drafting a second RB.
I remember that call..kudos !
Not bad at all.
Wow!!!! 2 bad ass RB’S???!! I guess we don’t have to worry about finding that UDFA RB this year. Lol
No Cajuste or Feeney?
Cleveland selects Rashard Higgins
Does this selection suggest Rawls’ injury is worse than thought?
I really hope not, but it seems like from all past reports that Rawls will be ready to go at the start of the season.
I think its an indictment of c-mike…the only reason he came back was rawls ankle and lynchs’ hernia issue.
This has turned into a fun draft. What was his injury?
How many Receivers is Cleveland going to take?
alex collins might be a full back thats what im thinking.
He’s not big enough. We are obviously hedging our bets on a starting RB. Rawls might not be ready to start the season and Prosise is going to be a third down specialist. That leaves just
CMike for early downs. Collins should compete for that role till Rawls gets up to speed.
C-Mike might not even make the team. Only guaranteed 25k. Only a Seahawk because no one else would take him.
Or Prosise is a FB
With Vannett, we don’t need a fullback
Browns select Trey Caldwell
I don’t dislike the pick, but PC/JS continue to confuse me…offensive draft for sure…
Lots of young blood for the offense. Five offensive players through five rounds (four offensive players through three rounds).
Love the Reed/Jefferson pick(s) for the defense, too.
Broken hearted about Fackrell and Hargrave getting so close to us in the third, but really do like this class so far.
We are so deep at RB
Collins is a Spencer Ware, backup RB.
Prosise replaces Freddy Jackson, Ricardon Lockette as a gunner, and gives us a Harvin like weapon.
I love what Seattle is doing.
This kid is a steal.
Being the Bully. That’s what Schneider said and the picks are just that. All the picks so far except Prosise are bully type players.
Yup. Promise gives us a very interesting Offensive Weapon. As Dennis Leary said in Draft Day “I got a team full of Tarzans, I could use a Jane.” Love this freaking draft.
Procise is 6-0, 220. He consistently fell forward for an extra yard or two. I don’t agree that he is not a bully, especially considering what he has done on special teams. He might not be a bowling ball, dive into the line. But he is definitely hard nosed.
Schneider mentioned a couple times that he needs to learn to finish. I don’t think he finishes like Rawls or Collins, but he’s a receiver in the backfield and homerun threat and still getting better. I think he’s the touchdown maker Pete always likes. Pete loves a loaded backfield, has just had luxury of Lynch the last number of years. I think he wants them all to battle it out and play the hot hand and keep the running game fresh. For anyone thinking the Seahawks might go to more of a passing game, think again.
Ifedi, Reed, Proisise, Vannett, Odhiambo, Jefferson, Collins. The Seattle Seahawks are getting back to the bully basics. Outstanding draft thus far.
Agree. Meat and potatoes.
V12…excellent shout early on this one!!
Thanks man.
Please come back more often! 🙂
By picking Collins, I wonder if the plan is to use Prosise as a Harvin-lite: line him up in the slot and in the backfield, throw bubble-screens and flairs in the flat. And they’ll use Collins and the traditional “back-up” RB to Rawls (or 3rd RB is Michael is the 2).
49ers select Fahn Cooper
Niners Take Cooper Fahn
Thoughts on the RB situation (as it stands)
Rawls: Our starter and will be ready for Week 1. I don’t expect much of him at all in the preseason
Prosise: A former WR and can line up as one. Similar to Fred Jackson. COP guy
Collins: Traditional RB in our mold. Sheds tackles and is great at one-cut, hole blasting
Michael: Showed some upside (always been there, just can’t hold it all together). I think he’ll be in for the fight of his career coming training camp/preseason
House, http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/alex-collins?id=2555430 shows that Collins only broke 5 tackles in his last 475 carries so he does not shed tackles
Procise weighs more than Collins does (220 v 217). Just because he can catch the ball well, doesn’t make him just a change of pace back.
Collins is a challenge to C Mike.
Chargers select Jatavis Brown
Fahn Cooper to the Whiners. We talked a lot about him before TEF.
Feeney in R6 would be an absolute steal.
Seattle can carry 4 RBs, because Collins mightebe a Derrick Coleman like FB.
Rawls is fine. He’s our 1, but we need insurance.
C-Mike needs to pushed and hard. Check.
Prosise gives us a weapon we’ve ben looking for since Harvin didn’t pan out, and is our 3rd down back according to PC.
Collins might be a RB/FB mix. Or anothet backup if C-Mike gets cut or Prosise needs more time to develop.
Remember guys, CJ isn’t a true RB. He’s different.
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. They tried Ware at FB. Seem to always be laboring to have a playmaker at that position. This is going to be an interesting back field for sure.
I agree that Procise will line up all over the field. We will likely see him on the field with Rawls a good chunk of the time.
Can anyone explain why Cleveland has picked 5 different receivers? No way they can keep that many. If I was a Browns fan I would be pissed.
RGIII airing it out this year …..
🙂
The washed out the whole WR class….. one is projected to TE I think
– Josh Gordon is probably gone for good… Can’t leave weed alone.
– Travis Benjamin left (versatile WR and returner)
– Cut Dwayne Bowe
They need a major overhaul at the position… Hue Jackson has always had good WRs
And it’s not unlike the Seahawks have done. Identify a need and go all out to address it.
Especially since Cody Kessler is only capable of completing screens to running backs.
I think writing off CMike might be a mistake at this point.
Why? He was waived twice last season. He is a borderline NFL player. Why some people hang on to this guy mystifies me. He’s all potential no production. Those guys last a couple of seasons then they’re exposed as frauds and cut.
Collins will trounce him in preseason, but I doubt Michael makes it out of training camp. If the FO really trusted him they wouldn’t have cut him and then drafted two more backs in the off season. Buh-bye.
Fair point, and you may well be right, CMike may be out the door. But I agree with icb12 that it’s not automatic. They all still have to compete with each other. If Alex and CJ beat out CMike, then that’s great for the team (and shame on CMike for losing job to a couple of rooks).
We’ll see how everything turns out.
Prosise to FB anyone?
I would think Alex Collins would move there over Prosise.
Agreed.
Also, Procise has been a RB for one year. Collins doesn’t shed tackles (5 in 475 carries), isn’t fast, but can dive into the pile.
Too valuable elsewhere. I’m thinking Vannett with 2 TE sets and as a Joker/FB at times
They love hands at fb. Spider y banana cuz.
Vannett can do that. Prosise was a WR, no way he can block.
Broncos select Andy Janovich
Crap
Charone Peake WR Clemson is still available? Does anyone know why he slipped so far?
6’2″ 209 4.37 40 at pro day
Because the Seahawks were disappointed with the last player they drafted with a female first name?
Charone is not a “female” name.
Early to begin with Rob did article about Alex Collins in the 3rd round so at 171 this is a Steal. I just felt this was going offensive draft and its all that with a definite edge to continue to Run the football. I think CM time is limited here.
Rams pick Temarrick Hemingway
A lot of teams having really good drafts. Speaks to the depth of this class.
Collins is the perfect one cut runner for this scheme.
Runs hard between the tackles, elusive, has those shifty shoulders that Lynch had. He’s another tough guy.
Checks off the adversity box. Grew up rough in Southern Florida. Has that type of swag.
He runs like a grown a** man. Looks like one too.
Mom stole his LOI to Arkansas because she wanted him to stay close to home and go to Miami. He lived with his HC in HS, becausr his mom is rumored to have some mental healty issues.
He never knew his dad, but hae to track him down to sign-off on his LOI because they couldn’t find his mom.
Another draft pick that fell due to testing poorl because of injury.
And this is the gritty back story that the Seahawks love.
12, tell me you are on a cell phone or enjoying a brew, cause your spelling gets worse by the hour ?
Nope. I don’t drink.
My typing is so bad. Agreed. I do apologize for that.
The spell check on my tablet doesn’t work.
I need an edit button.
Just ribbing ya. Love your insights. Be well.
Chiefs select DJ White
PUNTER!!!
Chargers select Drew Kaser
Boehringer to Vikings
Alex Collins says he was used a lot in pass pro. Might be indicative of how they see him being used (in part) in Seattle.
Vikes get Boehringer.
Vikings select Moritz Boehringer
Jags select Tyrone Holmes
Jags are getting scary good.
Have they even taken an offensive player this draft?
Ok, so before the 6th round pick here are my thoughts so far:
Ifedi starts at RT, Rees works as a backup G year one.
Reed and Rubin on 1st and 2nd down, Jefferson and Hill on 3rd and long.
Vannett starts next to Willson and Graham as a conventional every down TE, but doesn’t get Willson’s or Graham’s targets.
CJ is the primary 3rd down back, and Collins spells Rawls, and/or acts as a FB.
I still want a WR and a LB. But both of those can be answered in UDFA.
Overall grade so far: -A
I’m really warming up to the 2TE (sometimes 3TE) 1 RB set that Cable loves. Vannett can motion into the backfield for FB when needed, and on fakes can either block or cut through the line and into a route.
Prosise can also motion out as a WR, we also like doing that (unfortunately Turban couldn’t catch that well). Imagine the flexibility? 2 TE, 2 RB, set, but where Graham and Prosise motion out to WR’s half the time? Holy match-up nightmare from hell. This offense is going to be INSANE.
Yup, this will hopefully be a top 5 offense ALL year next year! Definitely excited!
Drooling.
Vannett will compete and get some snaps as a Y, but he’s far from a year-1 every down TE tho…
Jefferson will compete with Hill for one spot in nickel. Bennett plays the other DT spot in nickel.
Ifedi and Reed are week 1 starters in all likelihood.
The RB competition will be fierce.
Odhiambo will compete for a starting guard spot
With both Webb and Glowinski in the mix?
I think he’ll play behind Webb… Groom him for the LG position. Britt will be the main backup for Webb/Glowinski.
Best guess is Britt and Glow start at G, Lewis at C (unless the Sokoli lottery tickets hits), and Gilliam/Ifedi outside
If they land Travis Feeney at 215, I’m going to flip the @#$% out, just saying.
hope so
Ravens select Keenan Reynolds
Feels like 215 is going to be WR or DB/LB hybrid. Possible QB or DE/LB.
Whoops, not meant as a reply.
Bucs select Devante Bond
Wow, Devonte Bond taken before his more notorious teammate, Striker.
JS and Bielema are connected man.
We just went from ‘BeastMode’ to ‘BuddaMode. That’s Collins nickname BTW.
You see him Irish step dance yet?
Allie O’Collins
Thinking there’s a chance Seattle could to QB in 6. Jeff Driskel fits the mold of athlete at the position. Maybe they go with Collins’ teammate, Brandon Allen. Allen’s pretty decent on the boots and rollouts.
DRISKEL!!!
Want him too, but there’s a reason a former 5 star recruit falls this far,
Three picks left. If we get Cajuste, DeAndre Elliott, and maybe Striker I’ll be giddy.
Fingers crossed…
isn’t it two picks?
Thought we traded 225.
Two. We gave up 243 for 147
we still have 247, traded 225.
But Seahawks website says we don’t have 247
2 picks… traded 1 7th
We got one back from the patriots
We have three on our team page.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker?icampaign=draft-sub_nav_bar-drafteventpage-tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:sea
didn’t the seahawks get a 7th round pick from Carolina for Kevin Norwood?
Three. They added a 7th in that deal, too.
Jefferson and Collins are great picks
When the 6th pick comes up, do you go Feeney or Cajuste if they’re both still available?
I think we’re done at WR… Feeney would be my pick of those 2
I’m still in for Jeremy Cash.
Cajuste is more valuable I think, and he kinda fits into that bully mold the they’re going for this year.
Considering Prosise can be used at WR, seems less likely. Maybe pick up Jay Lee in UDFA if he lasts. There is a lot to like about him.
Yup.
Seattle is gonna target 2-3 positions in UDFA.
This UDFA class is gonna be SPARQd to the moon!
Christian French might be one of their targets for UDFA
Definately a /slash player.
Dang Pete and John look happy there in the War Room. Think we’re gonna be runnin the ball at all this season?
*Craziness would ensue if they still took Devon Johnson at FB!
What stands out to me about Collins?
He’s a short-stepper. Seattle likes that in their RBs.
Remember when I said that guys like Odhiambo’s spring testing numbers are more indicative of the type of athlete he is?
This is why.
Collins ran a 4.45 40, 38″ vert, broad jumped over 10 feet.
Boom! Nice work, V12
BPA in action. I think we could reasonably argue that every player taken by Seattle so far today could have been in consideration for one of the R3 picks. That’s how much value we are getting!
Elite feet on Collins
Prosise has unique vision at RB
Idk where this narrative of Alex Collins being a good blocker came from.
Watch the tape.
I like how he asks the opposition to help him up
Collins has someof the best tape of any RB in this draft.
He’s one of only three guys to rush for over 1,000 yards his first three years.
Needs to clean up his ball security though.
Procise is a swiss army knife… Played WR 2 years at Notre Dame and due to an injury to a teammate, move to RB. I think he’s a move player that will be a matchup nightmare.
Collins is a monster of a RB. Has nimble feet and packs a punch. I think he’ll come in and chew up yards. Had some ball security issues last year and will need to hold onto the ball
Pete kicks his feet up onto the desk. JS stretches out. Two other guys pull out a football and start playing catch.
Our team is awesome.
Feeney and Cajuste for the win.
This is turning out to be a hit and miss draft, in my opinion.
The main thing is that Cable is happy with the existing o-line and will give last year’s conversion guys (and Webb/Sowell) every opportunity. Where will Ifedi play? LT, RT or G? I am leery about Rees O. He was a reach and an injury risk, projected low rounder. Same question, is he T or G? I have seen Rees comparisons with Ali Marpet. I sure hope so.
I think the interior o-line needed help, especially at center, a huge problem. They passed on McGovern/Dahl/Haeg/Boehm. All of them. I am very disappointed on this. They have not done anything about C, which means it’s Sokoli/Lewis again.
They loaded at RB. Overkill? Prosise will add a different dimension to the offense. Think Shane Vereen, Tavon Austin, Harvin, etc. I like Alex Collins, a Beast lite. A committee of Rawls/Collins/Prosise? CMike is the odd one out, I think.
Quinton Jefferson. Film looks good. He has some pass rush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5EzSkFsMY8
So just as Cable seems confident in the existing o-line, looks like they are not confident in Rubin/Siliga/HIll to have gone x2 at DT in this draft.
Solo li wasn’t ready to even be part of the mix last year. We have no clue how much progress he might have made. This could be a sign that he has come a long way and is ready to compete now. If not, you would have a point.
Sokoli, stupid autocorrect
They really need a long-term anchor at center. A smashmouth tough guy who makes the rest of the line work. Sorry, I don’t see it. To trust that role to a guy who is just now learning the position is a dicey. This is one reason I had been hoping for a free agent veteran for a long time. Barring that, the best of this draft. Nope.
Rees is a guard. And a nasty, athletic one at that.
Sokoli taking over at C was always the plan and has not been abandoned as of yet, testified to by their keeping him on the active roster all season long last year. Didn’t want to risk losing him off the practice squad. He’s going to be something special, and I hope he can jump in this year so our re-vamped OL has years to gel together.
Agree on CMike.
Jarran Reed is an upgrade to Mebane, let alone Siliga. There are still hopes for Hill but we needed another guy in case he gets injured again. All just awesome depth moves.
ReesO sounds like competition for Glow at RG to me.
Jack Allen still on the board if we want to bring in another bully to compete at center.
Would make my day, but I don’t think he will last much longer. And he doesn’t fit the profile of TEF, etc.
Very surprised that James Cowser is still on the board. Might not be a great ‘fit’ here and looks awkward, but he’s a production beast.
Boehriner is getting more air time on NFLN than any of the first round picks.
As an international player, he’s important to them. They are doing a lot of work to increase the presence of the game in Europe by finding European players. Really interesting article about the work being done by Osi Umenyiora in this regard here:
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/13/nfl-draft-2016-who-german-prospect-moritz-boehringer
‘Infotainment” instead of boring informative analysis.
The Reese Obdhiamo tape is underwelming to say the least!
From tape I’ve seen, he’s susceptible to swim moves off the edge (main reason he’ll be better at G). Looks like a road grader in run blocking and keeps his feet moving while engaged.
I know we’ve moved on from him around here but Eric Striker is still available. I’d love to take him.
don’t give up, there still is time!
How about Tyvis Powell, FS 4.46 / 40 considered a LB/ S hybrid. Takes Irvins place.
So about the VMAC visits.
Ragland and Derrick Henr were smokescreens for Jarran Reed.
Maryland’s Sean Davis was a smokescreen for DT Quinton Jefferson.
JS and Bielema have a grear friendship and connection, hence Alex Collins.
Seattle’s interest in Germain Ifedi and Rees Odhiambo was legit.
And Seattle scouted Ohio St and ND more than any other teams. They scouted 1 bowl game. Fiesta Bowl between Ohio St and ND.
There’s the Nick Vannett and CJ Prosise interest.
Good observations.
Don’t know how you can say those guys were smoke screens for Reed when every mock draft had him going in the second half of the first round.
Um, didn’t we just pick in the second half of the first round…?
But they didn’t take him until the second (though they say they considered him in the first). But it seems kind of odd to go to a bunch of trouble to deliberately disguise their intent to take a guy they don’t actually take at that spot. Tons of people had Ifedi linked to us already. There was no need for a smoke screen.
And they said they woulda went with Reed at 31.
These media guys have idea what teams draft boards look like.
That’s one of JS’s specialities. To know where ‘their’ guys are going. Range wise.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/30/seahawks-got-the-other-guy-they-were-considering-at-no-31/
Interesting speculation, V12. But unless you have ears within the organization, speculation.
Maybe they had genuine interest in everyone they met. If for nothing else, to gather info.
Absolutely.
Yes, it is speculation. Just what I’m personally thinking.
TRAVIS FEENEY, LB
DEVON CAJUSTE, WR
BRANDON ALLEN, QB
Travis has too many shoulder injuries surgeries! Big red flag.. I hope Seattle dine their homework. Christian French barest option at OLB/DE/TE.
I can’t say Collins looks like a world beater to me. Probably similar ceiling to Rawls. Heartbeat of the team kind of guy. Both of these guys have great balanace.
Prosise has a much better second gear
We are absolutely loaded at RB now.
Will be interesting to hear what they say about him in the press conference.
Agree.
I think you have put Prosise in a separate 3rd down/change of pace half-WR category. Bevell and his bubble screens are going to have a new life.
Procise for the Harvin role?
Thats what I see. Versatile chess piece that creates matchup nightmares. Who covers him a CB, LB or S?
Especially if you put him at FB….
Eh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that. In the press conference they did mention his versatility to be used as a weapon, but they seemed pretty set on his upside as a RB and how he was able to adapt and grow as a RB at Notre Dame this past year. Will start out as the 3rd down back and grow from there.
I agree Sea Mode. I just feel his versatility and moving around creates options. With drafting Collins, Prosise is definitely the COP guy and a pass catching weapon on 3rd downs as you stated.
I don’t know about him at FB…
Exactly.
3rd down back they’ll develop.
But, in empty sets they’ll use his versatility. Line him up at WR, motion him into the backfield, sreens, stuff fro college playbooks.
Not much different than what Tyler Ervin woulda been used as.
I hate that McGovern went to the Broncos. They got Tretola, now McG. Damn Elway.
Titans and GB have drafts that I wish the Hawks had pulled off. Damn them too.
Oops. I meant Sambrailo, not Tretola. Damn Elway anyway.
Broncos used the TEF formula it appears.. damn them for stealing Robs hard work!
RAVENS have had the best draft, I think.
I really like the Jagurs draft. They will be vastly improved I think.
Jags are killing it. Fowler coming back also.
Green Bay really did take quite a lot of players I had pegged as possible Seahawks picks.
Not surprising though when you remember they picked right ahead of us.
Wow, I LOVE Quentin Jefferson’s highlights. I can already hear PC at the presser: “He’s a legit interior pass rusher and is only going to get better as he grows.” Hit the nail right on the head with that pick and got it done in the 5th round at that.
Onyemata is a cool story but is MUCH more raw and unlikely to contribute much at all this year. Our guy will contribute right away.
I dig the juke move that bobbyk pointed out. What makes it so successful I think is the way he is able to accelerate forward after it.
And if anyone has not seen this tackle, stop what you are doing and watch it right now. 🙂 The replay afterwards from the other angle is even better. Simply one of the coolest tackles I have ever seen.
https://youtu.be/K5EzSkFsMY8?t=101
Same. He’s a steal, there
Agreed, looks great.
Great pass rush highlights — the main “weakness” seems to be that he gets easily run over – a “one-trick pony”?
He’ll be a situational pass rusher for us. Not too worried about him getting rocked back when the opposing OL is hunkering down protecting the pass.
Seattle targeted positions that don’t have be SPARQd up. Well none do, but we know Seattle likes that.
LG/RG, RB, TE, DT. None of those need high SPARQ scores to fill in the blanks of tape.
2 positions that usuall do? OT and OW/ATH.
Prosise and Ifedi.
Seahawks got a little bit unconventional, somewhat played it safe, and I love it! Got talent and steals that fell due to an injury that affected their athletic measurements.
Usually the prospects they take in UDFA that have high SPARQ scores are the guys they take into training camp and usually keep. Not always though.
But, what will be cool about this UDFA class coming up, IMO they’ll all be SPARQ demons, so we won’t know who they roll with. In theory anyways.
JAGUARS – SHAKES FIST
Not surprising that the Jags and the Falcons have made picks that seem just so Seahawksy.
LOVE the Falcons first round pick, Kam Chancellor version 2.0
Those two teams (along with Oakland surprisingly) are teams on the rise, no doubt about it.
Ha, took them 5 rounds, but the Jags finally selected an offensive player this year!
Are Feeney and Cajuste still avaliable?
Yes. They are available…… 3 49ers picks between now and Seahawks pick……. yikes
And 2 Patriots. They seem to take our guys.
P, LS, K.
There’s your three Whiners picks.
yup
Bill Burr = fighting irish?
Bill Burr sounds like Bilbo. Bilbo was a hobbit. Hobbits traveled to Mordor. Mordor is where evil lives. “Evil will always win because good is dumb”, said Dark Helmet to Lonestar. Lonestar used the schwartz. He learned it from Yogert. Yogurt comes from dairy farms. Dairy farms make cheese…. Cheese heads… I got it, we’re trading our 215 for Aaron Rogers…
Hobbits get rings, too.
Allen Jack is still available
Jeremy Cash is still available
You mean Jack Allen, center?
oh, yeah him 😛
I am hoping, probably in vain, for Jack Allen. Doesn’t seem likely.
But—somebody tell Cable “He’s a winning collegiate WRESTLER!! You love that, dontcha, Tom?”
10 more picks
Buccaneers having an awful draft. Overrated Harvreaves, then a kicker in the second, and a fullback in the sixth? Are you kidding me!
They drafted needs…
If the kicker taken in the 2nd rd (third 2nd rd K in history) can contribute in the likes of S. Janikowski and J. Hanson, they’re set there. K has become such a vital part of foot (especially with the XP being moved back). They’ve set up nicely with OL, RB, WRs and their Franchise QB. They’re gunning for 3rd in they’re division. Any/all points count.
We got LUCKY that Hauschka was cut by BAL when we picked him up. K was an issue for us at that time.
9 more picks ahead of us…
Hey, the Rams might have gotten something decent at WR.
Too bad they didn’t get anything decent at QB.
I think the Hawks brought Ragland and Henry in for meetings to get inside info on Reed. Same as meeting with Center Henry from Boise then drafting Rees.
Some of the WRs still on the board:
Devon Cajuste
Kenny Lawler
Charone Peake
Marquez North
Keyarris Garrett
And much more
Gotta think SF takes one or two with their next two picks.
That is a great list can’t believe they are all still there. Really like Peake, Lawler and Cajuste.
PC toting the rock in the war room.
Seen that. It’s all about the ball!
Think Seattle is gonna take some form of CB, C or LB.
QB, WR, FB in UDFA?
One of those positions probably won’t be addressed this year. Unless they go for a veteran.
Can’t fill all your needs or wants.
Or, does Seattle go with Cottom and Tukuafu at FB?
That would work. If DC is still on the roster I’d actually like to see what he could do at LB.
I remember before the combine a ton of people were talking about the Hawks taking Collins in the 2nd or 3rd round. So to get him at the end of the 5th is great value. I guess he and CMike battle it out for that spot.
Yeah, I think everyone we have taken today could have easily been a 3rd rounder in another draft. I’m stoked and can’t wait for the next pick.
I like Cash, Feeney, Cajuste, but they’ve probably got someone even better up their sleeve…
34 on BP..
I was mocking Collins in the 3rd rd. To take Prosise, I was a bit perplexed. To get him in the 5th, I was ECSTATIC!!!
Best draft award goes to the jags in my opinion. Ramsey, Jack, Day, Ngakoue, Holmes, Underrated qb Brandon Allen
Ravens, too!
Some very nice pieces.
I’m thinking they have Collins as a FB HB hybrid someone to diversify the offense because tuakafu and Coleman weren’t run threats
Lions just picked a LS.
Geez.
Long snappers coming off the boar in front of us. Nice
I think it’s pretty cool that Baltimore drafted Keenan Reynolds with Annapolis being right down the road.
Reynolds is the Braxton Miller, Terrelle Pryor, BJ Daniels type. Seems like a cool idea but never really pans out.
Take them long snappers!
Think I’ve decided I want Cajuste, DeAndre Elliott, and Jack Allen for our final three picks.
Gimme Cash, Feeney, Cajuste
DT-Justin Zimmer…….still available….
Yes, please.
Alex Collins pick just got an A+ grade from Walter Football
GREAT value pick. Could’ve been a 3rd rd guy
I’m puzzled that the Raiders took Connor Cook. Feel bad for him. Dude has starter qualities. He’s going to get paid sitting on the bench behind D.Carr, or will be trade fodder.
He’s a develop-and-trade player.
49ers selected Aaron Burbridge, WR
Mike Thomas and Pharoh Cooper will probably be the number 1 and 2 wideout in LA. Outside of Austin… Who else hoes Goff have to throw to? Kenny Britt…
Unless they draft Kenny Lawler, reuniting him with Goff.
Rams are going to be dangerous.
Joey Hunt – Center TCU ; Seahawks
Yikes… He passed up on Cajuste and Feeney for hunt?
Local radio said Feeney not going to get drafted due to shoulder surgeries
Priority UDFA signing.
Where you seeing that so fast?
At this point I think Feeney goes undrafted.
I would like our odds there.
Major injury concerns with that shoulder.
Yep.
Here comes a C.
A guy that fits ZB perfectly.
I’m guessing of course.
Good call! I don’t know much about Hunt at all
Might be the first pick I don’t really like, however I haven’t really looked into Hunt. Cajuste and Feeney might be UDFAs at this point.
However, the interesting thing is that it’s the second straight year we have drafted a center in the sixth.
Would have preferred Jack Allen. Hunt is not a Bully like Allen.
I love how the Seahawks sent out notification on the Joey Hunt selection while NFLN and ESPN were three picks behind.
All wrapped up in the German infotainment.
With the 215th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select… Joey Hunt, C, TCU
Elandon Roberts good ilb
‘hawks pick is joey hunt
34 on BP…
There it is.
An absolute sleeper
One of, if not the best ZBS C in this class.
Tried talking about him last year during the season.
Competition at C. If he makes it great, if not, no big deal.
He’s nasty.
Completely agree. He was one of my favorite players in the draft, pretty pumped the Seahawks took him.
“Scholar-athlete who brings mental sharpness from classroom onto the field.” Zierlein
TCU plays one of the softest spread schemes in college football. Can’t say I like this pick, especially with a real bully like Jack allen on the board.
He’s a fringe guy. You hope he pans out, but if not, he makes guys like Sokoli, Lewis, and Perciak better due to competition.
Blocked for Boykin, so he’s used to mobile QBs, comes from a zone read option offense.
We know Seattle likes these under-sized Cs.
Fires off the ball, moves extremely well. He’s a dirty player IMO
Has some Sweezy to his game that way.
Another TC O-lineman.
Hunt and Nick Martin were the only 2 Centers in College football not to give up a QB hurry this past year. For everyone who wanted Jack Allen basically Hunt is smarter version of Allen with slightly better feet and hand usage but not quite Allen’s strength.
Both guys are nasty SOBs if you want better pass pro out of your Center then Hunt is a great pick to compete with Sokoli and Lewis.
My bet is Hunt wins the job and Lewis backs him up with Sokoli moving to Guard.
Cajuste…
UDFA pull with Baldwin? Could be what they’re counting on
Interesting point (been made, obviously, but not in the context of him as a UDFA)
2 more bullets in the gun in the 7th round
I thought we traded one of them
I think we did but we got it back from Dallas when we traded cmike
We flipped 7th round picks in the trade with the Patriots, so we still have two.
Joey Hunt: Hall of Fame Hair
Highlights over on Patriots.com
http://www.patriots.com/video/2016/02/10/2016-draft-prospects-joey-hunt-c-tcu
nice video. very rarely see him driven backwards.
The thing I noticed from the tape the most: Great eye movement and head swivel. He plays through the play. Very intriguing. As someone else stated above, brings intelligence from film room to the field. Also worth nothing… Named a Captain 2 years straight (selected by Coach)
Darius Jackson and ZEKE? crazy
I think the Cowboys are going to run the ball.
I like both picks down the road, but they have some problems this year
I think they are absolutely nailing this. Covering all our needs with excellent picks. They look for guys with the traits/talents that fit what they want. Might not be the guys we like or talk about and that’s what I love about this. They have a lot more information on theses guys than we do. They fit their profile, not anyone else’s.
Cant wait to see our next pick.
There goes Feeney
Feeney is a good fit for PIT
Happy for him. Should have a great beginning to his career there.
Dang it Feeny nabbed by the Steelers
Is Boykin next? Hmmm
I’m getting a feeling
Well, one thing about Hunt is he’s used to blocking for an extremely mobile QB, so that’s a positive for him and us.
Exactly. I noticed in his tape he always keeps moving.
If Feeney goes undrafted, he’ll pick Oakland or Seattle.
I think Seattle’s last pick will a CB or a Christian French type guy.
Steelers snagged him
Steeler, at 220.
per @PFF_College:
Joey Hunt led nation with 99.5 pass blocking efficiency allowing zero sacks and only three hurries
Nice star KD. It’s nice to get some info, he seems to small for our center but the obviously like something.
Stats I’m seeing naturally vary a bit, but not too dissimilar
Unger: 6’5″, 305
Hunt:6’3″, 295
He’s 6’1-7/8″/301lbs. Patrick Lewis is 6’1″/305lbs
I’ve seen him listed at 6’3!
He just did an interview. NFL.com had him listed at 6’0″ and he was listed elsewhere @ 6’3″. He confirmed at his pro-day he was measured a tick under 6’2″
Mel Kiper at the salad bar is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.
His mock draft wasn’t much better
We might like Feeney, Cajuste, but maybe Seattle doesn’t.
Hunt is dirty man.
Comes from an offense with a QB that plays like RW. Always moving, hard to block for.
Hunt might not be the name Jack Allen is, but he fits Seattle better.
Hunt is technically sound, no training required. Grit and determined…… back-up center at worst, but could push for starting spot from day 1.
His highlight snaps are rockets. I wonder if LS is in consideration.
Glad they took a center, but would have preferred Jack Allen
Hunt is interesting. Undersized. A lot of technical things to fix, but good attitude, smart.
Here is an old article that suggests he is a good leader.
http://footballmatters.org/hunt-tcu-continue-to-silence-the-doubters/
A Colts -oriented scouting reportt
http://forums.colts.com/topic/43693-scouting-notes-tcu-c-joey-hunt/
Well. At least he is a center, maybe competes.
Watched Hunt against Minnesota, and he looked good. His snaps are fast and accurate, hits the QB’s hands, and he gets out of his stance quickly, walls off blockers, does not get pushed back, and gets to the second level a lot. Nice pick.
Something I noticed, he really fired off the snap of the ball.. he was in his stance before the other OL next to him….. always about 0.10 sec earlier…. very rarely see him get driven back and is sticky to DTs.
OBS you posting here? Nice! I didn’t know you’d seen Hunt, you should tell people over at the Shack what you know.
Why did we waste #97 on a guy he doesn’t even project to start over THE BUM aka Britt? What happened to McGovern dahl Vuitui…. I’m disappointed!
Probably didn’t have the character they like.
Odhiambo will battle.
He’s a coaches player. Will do anything ya ask him, won’t mind being a backup if that’s the case.
Maybe he’s our new Alvin Bailey.
Nothing wrong with that.
Well, what’s potentially wrong with that is that Rees was taken so high. Projected to be rd. 5/6. And he’s injured and injury prone.
You want a potential starter with a pick there. Not a depth guy. And it should be someone better than Bailey.
Just have to hope they transform him.
He is a potential starter. I’m talking about his floor.
The only reason he was projected low was due to his injury.
Injuries don’t scare Seattle.
He’s a 2nd round-early 3 round type talent.
Dahl, Haeg, McGovern I likee too. But, just because they weren t hurt or were the more popular name wasn’t gonna guarantee them a starting gig anyways.
Projected by whom? Draft pundits…?
Projected by who? We’ve seen all draft that the media have absolutely no idea what’s going on, remember when Vadal Alexander was a first-rounder?
Totally possible that teams had a much higher grade on Odhiambo so the Hawks did what they had to do to go get him. If he beats Britt out then good. If he doesn’t, that means Britt is improving which is also good.
I don’t disagree about that one, reggie. Would have preferred McG/Dahl/Haeg/Vitai/Boehm there.
They obviously think Rees O has been underrated.
Only Cable knows.
Count me in. Rees never finished a full college season. No reason to believe that he will in the pros.
There were better candidates than Rees
“No reason to believe that he will in the pros.”
Well, if the Seahawks’ advanced medical staff and front office with millions of dollars and dozens of full-time professional scouts at their disposal thinks he can be healthy enough in the pros to make him worth the pick, I’m certainly not going to be making emphatic statements about his health and fit on the team based on nothing more than my outsider fan knowledge.
Amen Sea Mode
That’s picks for here though not the Seahawks pool of players. Anyways Ifedi probably starts over Britt anyways. Rees will compete with Glow
I think you guys will like Joey Hunt when ya watch him.
He’s a character.
Gives us that JR Sweezy attitude we lost this off-season.
Great pass protector, squares his targets up on the move, extremely strong. Very fluid. He’s a natural ‘mover.’
Again, might be the best ZB C available.
Seattle scouted TCU hard this summner during TCUs mini camp.
Now we know why.
What I liked from his tape is he doesn’t stop blocking or moving; important as Boykin and Russ are always moving. Also turns defenders shoulders well
Joey Hunt: 6016, 299, 30.25″ arm, 9.875″ hand, 5.27 40yd, 34 bench
Joey Hunt, TCU
Hunt is very undersized at 6-2, 295 pounds and he’ll certainly be scheme-limited. That being said, Hunt is arguably the best pass protector in this class, adeptly mirroring inside rushers and having just enough to hold up versus bull rushes. He yielded 10 total pressures over the last two seasons. In the run game though he’s much more of a controller than anything else. Some of that was TCU’s scheme and some of that is Hunt not having the brute strength to move defensive tackles. If he can go to an outside zone heavy team, Hunt can be effective.
-MIKE RENNER, PFF
With the rest of the draft, there are some good guys still left.
Alex McCalister-edge
Erik Striker-LB
Cajuste, Key Garrett, Kenny Lawler, D’Runya Wilson, Paul McRoberts- WR
Wouldn’t mind them taking a good slot nickelback down here.
Joey Hunt has more size than Allen, which might have been very important to the Seahawks. They prefer bigger centers. I said I didn’t like the pick before I looked into him. I like it now… Definetly a solid sleeper.
7th round run on WRs in progress.
Joey Hunt is an interesting selection, smart kid, great in pass pro, moves well. Very interesting Seattle now has two shorter centers. Could be a signal that with a pint sized QB, they are adjusting to a more squatty players there. They’ve been listing Sokoli as a guard/center on the website for a while. Maybe they want to give him a chance to compete at guard more this year.
Only two defensive picks for us so far this draft, both DL.
Defensive line was our BIGGEST need.
We have several players coming back from injury in Secondary (Smith, Seisay and Simon), LB Corps is getting Pinkins back as well as Cassius Marsh moving to LB
Even with a run on receivers there will be a lot of good udfa available this year. If we could pick up Paul McRoberts I would be stoked.
It seems every draft, WRs and RBs are plentiful low rounds and UDFA. You can almost get away with avoiding those positions, except for star quality types.
I’m kind of shocked Cajuste is still available in the 7th
If Sokoli is the future C, we needed a backup, because Lewis might not be back next year.
Wouldn’t surprisr me if Hunt was in competition to start, but if not, ya develop him.
Seatt built like hihinhim.
Also, interesting to note they haven’t fully committed to listing Sokoli at center on their website. He’s been listed as a center/guard. Hunt probably spells the likelihood they might not spend too much time experimenting there.
I’m confused on guys thinking hunt is small?
Hes 6’2″, 300#
Lewis is 6’1″ #305..
Unger was 6’5″ so I guess that’s where it’s coming from?? Still 305#
Nowak is 6’3″ #300.
I think his size is fine.
He just did a radio interview and he confirmed he’s 6’1-7/8″/301lbs… He’s limited to playing center and thats what he was drafted for. Instant competition
I think it could mean that a possible shift to a shorter player at the position to benefit Wilson. NO used shorter interior lineman for Brees, ironically being Unger playing there now.
I wouldn’t doubt it… A minor tweak (2 inches in height” that could vastly improve overall play). Another thing to look at is guys like Aaron Donald that are becoming dominant DL as well. Near 6′ and pack a punch. Hunt is shorter than the likes of Unger and similar weight = better anchoring
Pete thinks he is back at USC with his full stable of RBs love it.
No! Feeney went to the Steelers
im not seeing that…
ah went in the 6th nevermind
Joey Hunt likes BBQ turkey??? Here’s a little interview (not much really), but at least to get a look at him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gqcU1jJAmk
Says he loves football, favorite place to be is the football stadium. Is thinking of going into coaching, so he majored in business thinking it would help him with that in some way.
Guess we went for smarts with this one.
Smoked or deep fried turkey for the Thanksgiving win.
So we still have two picks in the seventh?
Yes.
243 and 247
Is Dom Williams still available? Udfa perhaps?!
Best edge rusher is Christian French. 6’5 249 led Oregon in sacks 2014 minor injury last year but still had 3 sacks, 29 tackles, 7 QBH, missing 5 games. He will be brought in as HPFA and make the team.
Cajuste, Kenny Lawler, Jay Lee still on board, if they want to add a bigger WR.
Liam Nadler, Vernon Adams on board for QB.
Mike Jordan is a big corner.
Scooby Wright, Eric Striker there at LB. Joe Walker for Oregon is a fast cover backer, plus there’s Christian French.
Glenn Gronkowski, and Devon Johnson there at FB
Thinking the last pick could be FB, Big WR, QB, LB, or possibly DB.
Not a big fan of Vernon Adams, I don’t understand the Russell Wilson comparison.
Short QB, with wheels. IMO, I think Adams can do somethings as a backup in the NFL.
He’d beat out one of those Husky WRs we cling to
Oops, meant to reply to Haystacker about Dom Williams
My early prediction for OL
-They give Rees a red shirt year to get 100% healthy and be a great LG in year #2
-Ifedi will win the RT job moving Webb to LG where he beats out Britt
-Hunt wins the starting spot from Lewis and Sokoli gets moved to Guard.
It is going to be a battle in training camp with lots of competition. I just hope they pick a group early and let them gel.
2016
LT Gilliam LG Webb C Hunt RG Glowinski RT Ifedi
Bench- Sowell, Britt, Rees, Sokoli, Lewis
2017
LT Gilliam LG Rees C Hunt RG Glowinski RT Ifedi
Bench Webb, Sokoli, Rookie, Rookie
I agree with your view of the 2016 OL 100%
LT Gilliam LG Rees C Hunt RG Glowinski RT Ifedi
Bench Webb, Sokoli, Rookie, Rookie
I guess I’ll take it. 2016 scares me.
I think the Jags are about to field a top ten D, which should become a top 5 D by 2017. I believe this team will be scary. Hawks will still be better, obviously
Okay I definitely feel better about the Joey Hunt selection after watching the tape. Has athleticism and the man can pass block. Considering he is an actual Center and not DL convert or Guard/Tackle moved to Center, he could actually compete for a starter spot this year. Think about it, he’s already use to making Center calls/adjustments and snapping, plus he played in a zbs. It’ll be interesting to see how he transitions because even though he is smaller @ 295lbs, if you fit him in between Mad Dog Glowinski and either J Webb @ 6-7 330 or Ifedi @ 6-6 330, you could somewhat mask his weight.
Considering they actually started Nowak last year, I figure they might give him a shot.
Go Hawks!
And he’s used to blocking for a Wilson-type in Boykin
Here’s a video of Hunt vs Nkemdiche and Ole Miss
https://youtu.be/Cpiuhvpvxas
Hunt isn’t really VERY undersized, slightly shorter than average maybe & guys that size can put on 5-lbs in one meal. Size for Hunt is no problem.
Average OC 6′-3.32″, with 1.10″ standard deviation 302.95-lbs, with 9.16-lbs. standard deviation
per: http://www.mockdraftable.com/position/7/
Wow that makes me feel even better than I did a few minutes ago!
Him being sub 6’2″ (by an 1/8″) isn’t a huge deal at all. He does have shorter arms, but plays with great anchor and leverage. I’m excited to see what he does
Come to think of it, the shorter height could actually benefit Russell’s QB vision up the middle haha.
Vernon Adams, Charone Peake, Scooby Wright, and Jeremy Cash are the guys I want
Not Adams, please!
I went to Oregon so thats why. I also think he will be a good player. Hard worker and smart. Learned the ducks offense in about 2 weeks
Eric Striker in the 7th?
I had OT from TCU and C from BSU
We went BSU OT and TCU Center
They did that intentionally, zigging when you think they will zag.
I wonder if that rocket-fast snap could give RW a fraction of a second longer to throw. Watch the game vs. Ole Miss. The ball is in QB’s hands before the pass rushers even react to the snap.
https://youtu.be/Cpiuhvpvxas
Joey Hunt was originally a DT at TCU.
They took another guy who’s injury affected his measurables.
Brock Huard said he’s a squattier Max Unger.
Perfect for a shotgun offense. A natural C. His abililty to make the right reads and calls is very good.
Seattle went with good tape this draft. It’s what a lot of peope on here wanted right?
Seahawks killed this draft!
Love it. Ballers.
It’s funny cause when I looked at Hunts tape the first name I thought was Unger. A heady player that moves well
Kenny Lawler. NICE PICK UP. Reminds me of Sidney Rice.
Red Zone target.
I think I preferred Cajuste. (Of course, I’m not an NFL exec either.)
Like Lawler. Great footwork and hands. Kearse replacement potentially
Here we go…
Oooohhh Lawler! Nice! We’ve forgotten about him. Great pick actually.
Love the Lawler pick!!!!
Now I bet we take Robby Anderson from Temple as a WR / DB convert.
There’s the WR.
I like it.
Rob is a big fan of this guy as am I.
I absolutel love Cal WRs!
NFL ready.
Lawler make big time catches, wears XXXL gloves, and just oozes confidence bordering o
Wow! big time
Surprise the Ewes didn’t take him for teammate Goff.
You finally got your Cal receiver Vol!!! He was my favourite of the group and has made some of the toughest catches you will ever see. Love the pick and I would be shocked if he did not make the squad.
* bordering on cocky.
All this guy does is make big time catches in critical moments.
He’s an acrobat at the receiver position.
He is cocky. He was almost a Coug. He really liked the recruiting limelight.
I remember that. His tweets were getting annoying how he was begging for attention from different fan bases. I am sure he has matured.
Pure Red Zone Target. Tom Cable likes to say, we run to win, throw to score TDs.
Taller Jermaine Kearse just drafted. Great pick.
Cajuste seems like such a beast, it is amazing that he is still available. What don’t we know?
Good question OBS.
Though Cajuste may be a little redundant with Vannett on the team.
Kenny Lawler? Yes!
QB, FB, or LB with the next pick, me thinks.
Boykin maybe. Still want Cajuste even with the Lawler pick.
We’ve really gone all out on offense in this draft.
Would have preferred Cajusge, but he might be a UDFA. I like Lawler.
I am loving this draft! You never know till they all show up at camp and we see them in live action but this seems like the Hawks best draft since 2012 to me. I think there are going to be at least 6 guys make the squad and 4 will be big time contributors.
IMO the only guys that might not make it are Brooks and Hunt.
But, I kinda doubt Hunt gets cut.
It will be tough for Lawler to make it at WR. He’ll have to beat out the Washington crew.
Lawler: Touchdown maker at Cal scoring once every 5.3 receptions.
There it is. Kenny Lawler. Would have preferred Cajuste, but he is a target possession WR with a bit of speed. Touchdown maker.
Really want the Chris Matthews project to be put back in place for good, but I guess not really. Lawler is more conventionally sized at 6-2
Final Pick… Zac Brooks, RB Clemson
Another RB at 247. Wow. Ok. Well, get those phones fired up.
Hawks draft another RB are you shitting ME?!?!?
His NFL profile page is blank.
Cajuste could still be UDFA here
Wouldn’t that be the most Seahawky way to get the job though? Come in UDFA and beat the drafted guy?
Our offense is loaded at all the skill postions. We have never had this kind of depth on offense. Love what they have done with spending big bucks to keep stars on defense then using the draft to build the offense.
This Zac Brooks pick is a head-scratcher to me.
I don’t get this one.
Don’t get me wrong. He’s a very good RB, who was guess what, affected by injuries.
Interesting.
I always knew that if Seattle didn’t draft a DB early, they wouldn’t at all.
Another RB?!?! Ok that’s just overkill. Which one is gonna be the FB?
Pete is not messing around with these running backs!
Seems like he was a little traumatized by getting down to CMike and FJack late last year.
I think I was too, especially when the playoffs hit
Generals always fight the last battle …
Running back factory
Amother RB what’s good
Time to tear up mock draft
*rips paper to shreds*
Wow, get ready for some serious competition!
Serious Pete thinks he is still at USC what the heck are we going to do with all these RBs. I like the guys they took but where are they all going to fit on the roster. CMike must be a little nervous today.
Is it possible Rawls rehab is not going as well as we were led to believe.
I was surprised when they took a second RB, but now a third? Always compete!
Cajuste, Elliott, Cash, Striker…some of my UDFA targets.
The day is far from over
Truly, for JS the work is just starting today.
Zac Brooks, not messing around at RB this year.. at all.
Not drafted, QB, FB, Edge, LB, CB, or Safety.
Eight players to the offense.
Two for the defense, both interior DL. IMO, Reed and Jefferson where all they really needed on that side of the ball, inside disruption against the run and pass.
OUTSTANDING DRAFT.
Now the magician Pete gets to work his magic on the phone and nab us some UDFAs. Still some great talent out there.
They’re gonna go LB in UDFA. Probaby a few to battle it out. Keep one.
Congrats to everybody on an AWESOME draft!
Here’s to keeping it going in UDFA! Lots of good players still left out there. I’ll take Jeremy Cash and Devon Johnson to start out with. Keep the bully trend going strong.
Devonn!!
I’m confused with the last pick, but not mad. I think JS and PC have proven more than enough that we should just let them do what they are planning. Not on this site, but pretty much everywhere else, I’m laughing at all the fans that are complaining and saying they could do a better job drafting themselves.
This is maybe a kneejerk reaction to getting down to only CMike and FJack at RB late last year.
Zac Brooks is another player to be a pass catcher type out of the backfield, possibly bubble screen type.
It’s the end of the 7th round (which is really the 8th round nowadays with all the comp picks) so…
Kind of a throw away pick if you will.
C-Mike and Brooks are gonna battle it out for that 4th RB spot.
Seattle will carry 4 RBs this year IMO.
Definitely gonna carry 4 RB’s this season
Scooby the the Brownies.
Cajuste better not be MR Irrelevant to the Titans…
Watch Cajuste.
He doesn’t win at the LOS. Very slow off it.
Well, he’s also 230 lbs.
Haha Yeah, I suppose you get the 6’3″ 230 receiver to run 9 routes and smoke people all day. They usually don’t make great box-out possession receivers. Haha
ADB can teach him how it’s done
Lots of talent available in UDFA. Go Hawks!!! It’s been a pleasure guys
Preseason games are going to be nothing but hand offs.
Sweet! Cajuste and Elliott are UDFAs. Go getm JS.
Get Baldwin on the case
And Prich
We have so much developmental depth at DB I knew they would not take one this year. I am guessing they will target a Safety in UDFA.
Zac Brooks and Joey Hunt were both VMAC visitors.
Some of these guys are going to have to show something on special teams. The UDFA crop could be amazing. It should not be difficult to attract free agents: beautiful city, great facilities, and a history of free agents making the team. Come here guys, we will let you have a chance.
QB’s still available : Vernon Adams, Trevone Boykin, Liam Nadler
Boykin for me.
Yeah, couldn’t help but notice him when I started watching Joey Hunt videos
“He tried to punch a cop!” Top Cable, explaining his latest conversion project.
All our picks give great interviews. Very well spoken, level-headed bunch.
UDFAs might be Liam Nadler, Vernon Adams, QBs; Cajuste, Mickens, WR; Glenn Gronkowski, Devon Johnson, Tre Madden FB; Jack Allen, Alex Redmond, Tyler Johnstone OL; Destiny Vaeao, James Coweser, Cory Johnson, Shawn Oakman, Nile Lawrence-Stample DL; Eric Striker, Cory Littleton, Christian French LB; Mike Jordan, Jeremy Cash, Tevin Carter, Nick Vanhoose DBs.
Is anyone else kinda puzzled by the 49ers first 3-4 picks? Cards are looking scary on paper and the Rams… Well we’ll play them tough but not worried overall.
One thing I don’t think anything is critically thinking about is that if we didn’t draft Brooks at the end of the draft… do we think he would have signed with us as an UFA? I doubt it with our already having taken two backs and Rawls on the roster. If it were us, would we want to sign with a team that already stocked up on people at our position, or would we have gone someplace else?
Think of all the UFA linebackers and DBs. They all know the Seahawks took nobody at their positions. They have a decent shot to make the team, especially with the teams track record of giving UFAs a chance.
The LB or DB we would have drafted is still probably going to be available for us to sign, whereas any RBs would think twice going to a team that took a couple of RBs already (especially when one of the holdovers is a guy who could have won rookie of the year last year if he hadn’t gotten hurt).
The real question is why they took another RB at all. It looks like overkill.
Now Brooks does have a Lynch style to him. Did JSPC see ghosts and took him just because they wanted two guys with that look, Collins and Brooks?
Keep an eye on Ohio St S Tyvis Powell, Duke S/LB Jeremy Cash, Oregon LB Christian French, Rutgers LB Steve Longa, Baylor WR Jay Lee to , and that and that group of Marshall players that Seattle worked out.
Now that I warmed up to Vannett being a compliment to Graham, and learned more about Odhiambo, I’m really loving this draft.
Short Synopsis on our drafted players:
Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M: (STARTING RT) Has length, athleticism and seems like a great kid. Competitive spirit and is dubbed “The Ass-kicker”. When you hear a kid say, “I like to win. I like to compete” it makes you feel confident!
Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama: (STARTING DT) Versatile. #1 Run stuffer in the draft this year. Not a pass rusher, but eats double teams for breakfast. Could be a better version of Mebane.
C.J. Prosise, RB/OW, Notre Dame: (3RD DOWN RB) Swiss Army knife. Converted to RB from WR a year ago. COP back and can line up at WR. Mold of Fred Jackson type player
Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State: (TE DEPTH) I hear ceiling of “Baby Gronk”, I see as Zach Miller replacement. Great blocking skills with good receiving hands.
Rees Odhiambo, OL, Boise State: (OG DEPTH) 3 year starting LT, but had injury plagued career. Roster depth and could compete for LG position in future. Road grader in run blocking.
Quinton Jefferson, DT, Maryland: (3RD DOWN DT) Great pass rush ability. Gets to the QB and bats passes. 3rd down situational rusher. Stays fresh and helps get the defense off the field.
Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas: (#2 RB) One cut RB; nimble feet, very physical and sheds tackles. True backup to Rawls and has pass catching abilities. Had some ball security issues and will definitely need to protect the ball.
Joey Hunt, C, TCU: (CENTER COMPETITION) 3 year starter with a High football IQ. Consistent anchor and has ideal strength/foot movement. Brings competition to the C spot w/ Lewis, Sokoli and others…
Kenny Lawler, WR, California (WR DEPTH/ST): Very athletic, lengthy and possesses good body control. Does not have top-end speed to be a burner, but good speed to expose holes.
Zac Brooks, RB, Clemson (RB DEPTH): 6’0”/201lbs ran a 4.32 & a 36” at his Pro Day. Had a season ending injury in 2014 and was a #2 RB in 2015. He is hungry for the opportunity and we embrace competition.
Nice write and I agree completely with your take on most players.
#31 OT/OG Germain Ifedi B+
#49 DT Jarran Reed B+
#90 HB/WR CJ Prosise A-
#94 TE Nick Vannett C
#97 OT/OG Odhiambo Rees C-
#149 DT/DE Quinton Jefferson B
#171 RB Alex Collins A-
#215 C Joey Hunt – not enough information
#243 WR Kenny Lawler B+
#247 Zac Brooks – not enough information.
A ‘C’ for Vannett? I think solid TE blocking is something our run game has been sorely missing since Miller went out in 2014. I think he will have a bigger impact than people might realize just from this standpoint alone. Could be a great safety valve for Wilson as well in the passing game. Plus, maybe it means they will wise up and stop using Graham as a blocker.
Vannett was a good pick. They need a blocking TE. And I think his receiving will improve as a pro.
Didn’t Urban Meyer himself say when the pick was made, that he is more of a Move TE and he has to work on his blocking? Where is everyone getting this idea that he is going to be like Zach Miller?
Rob S —
A head-scratcher of a draft for most of the posters here and I am certain, for you (only Lawler and Brooks).
It would appear that JS/PC use measurables that are undecipherable to the average well-informed fans and even to those who put a great deal of time and effort into seriously studying players’ performances and trends, such as yourself.
In any event, the draft seems to have produced some promising prospects and your posts have provided months of enjoyment — thank you for your efforts.
I am looking forward to Rob’s analysis.
I don’t think Rob was that far off at all. He called it for Ifedi. Reed, Prosise, Collins were considerations in here as well.
What I want to know is why they passed on McGovern/Dahl/Haeg. And Nick Martin, Shon Coleman, etc. etc.
Carroll wanted a true stable of running backs, and that is what we got.
Rawls
Michaels
Prosise
Collins
Brooks
Ruffin
Wow.
Loaded. Collins might be a RB/FB.
The only thing I don’t get is…where are the athletes? Everybody in this class outside of Ifedi is completely ‘meh’ and just doesn’t seem to have that ‘special’ athletic trait or characteristic that they’ve chased in the past (Reed is a top tier run plugger I guess, but very average athletically which was the whole knock on him with a limited ceiling). It seems like their draft philosophy completely changed overnight. In some ways that’s a good thing (I notice the OL they selected in the mid-range can actually freaking pass block a little). In others I just don’t get the change at all.
Did you check zac brooks numbers?
What’s not to get?
Jefferson, Hunt, Collins, Vannett, Odhiambo. All of their athletic measurements were affected by injury.
Seattle hae to get unconventional. The rest of the league is on to them.
Prosise is an amazing athlete.
They focused on positions that don’t need great SPARQ scores. LG, TE, RB, DT, and a red zone WR.
These prospects all check off the battled adversity, got heart, higy character or just plain characters with chips on their shoulders.
Seattle has a ton of freak athletes. They needed to get back to being the bully and setting the tone early.
They also want to win on 3rd downs. They accomplished that too. Pass catching RBs, run blocking OL, and the best Y tight end in the draft.
I agree v12, John said we need to get back to being the bully. Minus Prosise (which I like the pick) they are all bullies.
They could have picked the ones who were both athletes and bullies. They passed on a lot of these.
I don’t we should necessarily love all of the picks just because they made them.
We’ll have to see how they turn out.
Prosise is UNIQUE. I’m going to love watching how they use him and the routes he’s going to run out of the backfield.
Reed is a bit more athletic than what you might think, IMO. He was a converted LB from Junior College. Alabama asks their DLs to two gab and not get upfield, which makes them difficult to scout. He’s more explosive than Robinson. I think he can get upfield and disrupt, you should check out what he did at the Senior Bowl.
Seahawks add W. Kentucky LB Nick Holt.
Son of one of Carroll’s former assistants at USC… That can’t be a coincidence.
Raiders got James Cowser
Christian French – lb. Signed ufa
Yes!
Saw that comin’.
He’s gonna make this team. Bet on it.
Excellent.
DT Brandin Bryant = rufa
Yes!
That’s my guy.
Some of the best tape you’ll see from a DT all year.
Knew they’d like him. How could you not?
The next Clinton McD?
Nice looking wheels and inside moves. If I’m Jordan Hill I’m going as balls out as I can through training camp and the pre-season.
Rob-
I come to your site every day to read about hopeful future Hawks. I never post just but read everyone’s comments and the information you all provide. Thanks so much for your hard work and passion for the draft!! Your effort every year makes the off-season go by faster for us fans! THANK YOU!!!!!
Sorry to throw cold water on all these picks. Shotgun theory in full effect in the backfield.
Zac Brooks is our smallest RB and my least favorite pick
3 RB’s puts CMike on notice, though. Brooks wouldn’t sign here as an UDFA, probably why they went with him in the 7th.
Don’t forget constantly injured, and no production. 800 total yards in his college career, including receiving yards. He also received fewer carries the older he got, from 6 a game to 2.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/zac-brooks-player-stats
Thought maybe he was a FB type, but as you said, too small.
Former Seahawk draft pick Spencer Ware was a backup at LSU. He turned out to be an OK NFL back.
4.32 40, 36″ vert, at 200 pounds right? Serious wheels, and some pop with it.
Let’s see what he can do in camp.
Total athlete. Signals that they want variety in the backfield. I’d expect the RBs to start factoring more in the passing game now with and CJ.
I get why they chose each of the backs.
Prosise, the typical 3rd down back. Replaces Fred Jackson. Can catch passes out of the backfield, flex out as WR etc. has the body type to block on 3rd down, if not the experience.
Collins, the 1st and 2nd down back bruiser. Can back-up Rawls, competition for CMike. Probably him and CMike both don’t make the team.
Brooks is the Swiss Army knife type player that a lot of people were expecting from Ervin. Not an every down back but a space playmaker, sweeps, screens, etc. essentially fills Harvins role in the playbook – I don’t see Prosise being that guy. This guy repeatedly ran a 4.32 in his playmaker so they must be enamored with his potential there.
Eric Striker to the Bills
Jeremy Cash to the Saints
That might be premature…
Loading up on linebackers for UDFA/roster invites. David Perkins out of Illinois St just added.
North Alabama CB Darvell Harris signs
What the…another RB???
Zac Brooks is so under the radar that nfl.com doesn’t have a profile page.
You know what? This #24 with the hair reminds me of a Beastly #24 we know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAfiVvKkaA
That wide lower body stance is very similar to Marshawn’s. And the way he seems to hop around.
North Alabama CB Darvell Harris and EDGE David Perkins from Illinois St., formely of Ohio St are added as UDFAs.
Perkins can rush the passer man.
Seattle wanted North Dakota’s Drew Iddings as an O-lineman. Went to NO.
Cajuste went to SF
UFA tracker up at field Gulls and I see the Seahawks inked your guy Brandin Bryant.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/4/30/11545772/2016-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-seahawks-edition
I’m stoked about that kid!
Me too!
This UDFA class is ridicuous!
Bryant, French, Madden, Fant, Elliott, Perkins.
Oh my gawd!
I know diddly about any of these guys. And I’m stuck in my truck with a couple more errands. My favorite thing all year is finding out about the new guys. We killed this draft and I laugh my ass off when bloggers whimper about the picks! They draft competitors to complete and know that not all will make it.
George Fant signed.
TE or OL?
It says Western Kentucky TE… but since his profile matches that of a whole bunch of other Seahawk o-line projects, I’d venture to say OL.
Good question, and since he comps almost perfectly with Garry Gilliam, I’d say he’s the next O-line conversion project.
I love LB Christian French.
IMO he’s gonnba be our next UDFA stud.
Apparently this is the guy PC/JS were hoping went undrafted. They’re intrigued with his upside.
Love Big Van, GI, CJP, Jarran Reed, Collins, Q Jefferson, Lawler
Not sold on Odhi, Hunt,
Just didn’t like Brooks skillset plus injury history
Haha.
Now you don’t like Odhiambo?
I might be in the minority on this one, but I’m actually pretty excited about Hunt. Former DL who converted to Center in college. Smart as a whip, technically sound, athletic. He could be a dark horse in training camp to earn the starting center job, I think.
And Deandre Elliott
Nice.
Rob called that one.
Woot! Love it. 32″ arms and 41″ vert. Excited about this guy.
I can’t get excited about Lawler or Brooks.
Lawler is a bean pole. And a slow one at that. Watched him drop way too many easy catches.
Colorado State-Pueblo WR Deontrae Cooper tweets “Seattle it is.”
Nice!
Wasn’t a fan of Elliott’s, but good call Rob, Vol
What? We drafted three running backs? Why not add a fourth in undrafted free agency. Tre Madden, come on down!
LOL! Price is Right!
Might be looked at as a FB here.
Apparently we’re still a run first team. And committed to stopping the run. And being the physically more imposing team just in general.
I wonder how much the second Rams game where our win streak got snapped and we were clearly the team getting pushed around and physically man handled, plus the two playoff games where we really were no better from a physical tough standpoint resonated with JS and PC? I think an awful lot. This draft seems pretty clearly all about never getting physically dominated again, while also addressing holes on the roster. All of those major holes were filled with stronger players over fast or even the most ‘explosive’ athletes available, though I’m sure at least SUFFICIENT ENOUGH explosiveness was factored in.
And we have also a franchise QB to protect. Through running the ball and up front.
Really am just very pleased with this draft. At least five players are going to be meaningful contributors. And we got stronger and younger while addressing needs and roster deficiencies. That’s just outstanding.
RB!
USCs Tre’ Madden.
Another guy who had injuries.
Have I said Seattle isn’t scared of those?
They knew they we’re getting these guy. Maybe that’s why they said they need to get healthy 🙂
Zac Brooks ran a 4.49 40y with a 1.52 10y. A vertical of 36 and a broad jump at 10-9.
Sounds pretty explosive.
Boykin just tweeted about joining the Seahawks.
Boom!! This guy was at the top of my list for BUQB. Tremedous!
I knew it. Nice.
Trevone Boykin is a really good get. I thought he’d be a middle round draft pick.
Hunt vs Nkemdiche, a glimpse of the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpiuhvpvxas&feature=youtu.be
Hunt looks like a good pick up. Maybe add 10 more lbs but looks the part. Great depth pick
Nkemdiche was invisible.
And Steve Longa, too. Good call, Vol 12.
Seeing that Rob is overworked, can I nominate Vol, Kenny, or whoever to do a quick guest post on some of these late round/UDFA guys in the coming week or so?
You guys have all made this draft time so much fun! Thanks guys and gals.
Oh wow!
How dope is that?
He’s a mix of KPL and Coyle.
Just makes plays.
Another throwback or old school kind of prospect in Longa.
Don’t understand the complaints, We absolutely nailed this draft. The guys they got fill the needs we have with the traits PC/JS want. Loving it!
I still think they could have done even better. Don’t agree with some of the prioritizing.
Needs were filled.
I can’t believe this.
Seattle just knocked this draft outta the park, and now this UDFA class on top of it?
It’s loaded!
Fant, French, Bryant, Madden, Elliott, Perkins, and now we add the perfect backup QB in Trevon Boykin?
I wonder how much the Hunt pick had to do with Boykin’s decision?
Nice! Congrats on the 4+ hit list Vol
As a community we had
Ifedi
Vannett
Prosise
Ohdiambo
Lawler
French
Elliott
Bryant
That’s damn good (half were from Vol)
I’m stoked about Boykin. He is going to tear up the preseason. Might make TJack expendable.
Wow, I must have been watching the wrong tape. Boykin hasn’t displayed any ability to do anything but run on tape. He can’t make an NFL pass. I was skeptical that he even makes the team…
Damn, Vol 12. You got another one: Tyvis Powell.
Tyvis Powell and Steve Longa now as well, Vol.
Schneider told the media on Friday that “Tom (Cable) really felt at the end of the day that Germain and Rees were the two strongest guys that he put his hands on during the spring.”