New 2017 NFL mock draft: 27th October

1. Browns 0-7 — Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
2. 49ers 1-6 — Myles Garrett (EDGE, Texas A&M)
3. Bears 1-6 — Jabril Peppers (S, Michigan)
4. Panthers 1-5 — Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. Jets 2-5 — Tim Williams (EDGE, Alabama)
6. Jaguars 2-4 — Malik Hooker (S, Ohio State)
7. Saints 2-4 — Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
8. Ravens 3-4 — Reuben Foster (LB, Alabama)
9. Colts 3-4 — Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
10. Titans 3-4 — Jamal Adams (S, LSU)
11. Dolphins 3-4 — Justin Evans (S, Texas A&M)
12. Titans via Rams 3-4 — O.J. Howard (TE, Alabama)
13. Bengals 3-4 — Dawuane Smoot (EDGE, Illinois)
14. Chargers 3-4 — Cam Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
15. Cardinals 3-3-1 — Tre’Davious White (CB, LSU)
16. Buccaneers 3-3 — Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
17. Bills 4-3 — Malik McDowell (DE, Michigan State)
18. Lions 4-3 — Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
19. Redskins 4-3 — Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
20. Falcons 4-3 — Jarrad Davis (LB, Florida)
21. Steelers 4-3 — DeShaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
22. Texans 4-3 — Jalen Tabor (CB, Florida)
23. Giants 4-3 — Azeem Victor (LB, Washington)
24. Browns via Eagles 4-2 — Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
25. Chiefs 4-2 — Alex Anzalone (LB, Florida)
26. Packers 4-2 — Carl Lawson (EDGE, Auburn)
27. Broncos 5-2 — Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
28. Raiders 5-2 — John Ross (WR, Washington)
29. Seahawks 4-1-1 — Dion Dawkins (T, Temple)
30. Cowboys 5-1 — Demarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
31. Eagles via Vikings 5-1 — Marcus Maye (S, Florida)
32. Patriots 6-1 — Budda Baker (S, Washington)


— Mitch Trubisky is the best draft eligible quarterback in terms of 2016 performance so far. He is poised, accurate and has shown a clear ability to progress through reads and make good decisions. His arm strength is good and can get better (he has the frame to add muscle) and he’s mobile enough to extend plays. Aside from one game in the aftermath of Hurricane Matthew he is avoiding turnovers and he’s led his team to several impressive late wins. He could go a lot higher than this.

— Deshone Kizer needs time on the field, in college. He has a chance to be a future #1 overall pick but he isn’t there yet. Returning to play for Notre Dame next year could be the best thing for his career.

— Running backs are not a trendy #1 overall pick and yes, you can find productive runners in the later rounds or UDFA. Every team is going to get a certain level of production at the position. A 1000-yard rusher only needs 62.5 YPG to get to that mark. The difference between a guy who gets stats and someone like Fournette is — an opponent has to gameplan for Fournette ever week. He’s drawing attention at the LOS on every snap, creating opportunities elsewhere. And even with all of this attention — he’s still going to hurt you (physically and in the stat column). He is the Bo Jackson of his generation. He is Julio Jones at running back. He is truly a generational talent and will provide an offensive identity for the team that drafts him. He’s a superstar, let’s not overthink this. He is that good.

— The Seahawks pick came down to three players:

Nick Chubb (RB, Georgia)
I wrote about Chubb last week and how he matches Seattle’s recent draft history. He is a Christine Michael-level athlete with the toughness and physicality Seattle has lacked at the position at times this year. Quite frankly — he is on a different level athletically to even Fournette and Dalvin Cook. For more on Chubb, click here. The big test will be whether he has retained that high level of explosive athleticism after suffering a serious knee injury a year ago. If he gets anywhere close he could be an early round target for Seattle, either in round one or after a move down into round two.

Demarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
I suspect the Seahawks would love to add one more inside/out pass rusher. A player comfortable playing DE in base and kicking inside on third/passing downs. Walker is ideally sized for this role at around 280lbs and he showed vs Louisville his ability to set the edge and contain even Lamar Jackson. His ability to hand fight, get off blocks, win with technique (rip/swim) and explode to the QB is impressive and he has nine sacks in 2016 so far. That said — his motor runs hot and cold and that isn’t a habit the Seahawks have entertained under Carroll and Schneider. When he’s ‘on it’ he’s a really intriguing prospect.

Dion Dawkins (T, Temple)
I wanted to check out Dawkins after a recommendation by regular contributors Volume 12 and Kenny Sloth. I had that opportunity in the last 24 hours watching three games. I came away really impressed. He does an excellent job keeping defenders in front of him — he’ll use his length to contain and his footwork is good enough to get into position and plant. On a couple of occasions vs Notre Dame the DE would fake an outside rush and dip inside — but Dawkins recovered well and didn’t give up the inside pressure. He’s tough in the run game and seems to have a power element to his play. He doesn’t do much progressing to the second level but he’s a very consistent, good left tackle and in this mediocre year for OT’s — that could get him into round one. His combine testing will be important (they’re not taking a middling athlete especially at tackle). The league let an athletic monster drop to #31 this year (Ifedi) so it’s not out of the question he could last with a good performance. The Seahawks have scouted Temple this year too:


  1. Nick

    God, this is the best Seahawks blog. Thanks so much for your work, Rob.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Nick 🙂

      • Volume12

        It’s the only blog. For me at least.

        I think Rob’s built one hell of a community and I’m very thankful to be able to be a part of it and allowed to post so much.

        I tell him this all the time, but ya gotta be blown away by a guy who works for the BBBC, does ‘Football Heaven,’ has a family that’s growing, and then puts out high quality, insightful, optimistic content every day? There’s just no competition when it comes to Seahawks and draft discussion.

        This blog is str8 ?!

        • Rob Staton

          Wow thanks man, means a lot 🙂

          • Jorel

            Only blog I read besides twitter for my Seahawks news. You’re the man Rob.

            • Rob Staton

              Thanks man!

            • Tien

              I don’t even care about or watch college football (but DO care about the Seahawks draft!):) and I come here multiple times a day for the football/Seahawks talk!


  2. Volume12

    Thanks Rob!

    Kenny our boy got some love!

    • Volume12

      They also scouted the Temple vs Penn St game too. Just a heads up.

    • Kenny Sloth

      I liked him better in the third round, I would rather take a pass rusher in the forst, but I’m not sold on Demarcus Walker perhaps only because I haven’t done any in depth stuff beyond what Rob has shown in posts.

      Really need to find some interviews. See if he’s got any personality.

      • C-Dog

        If he ticks the athletic boxes, and is still available in R1, I think it would be hard to pass on him given the need to OT. That said, if this be the case, he’d probably be ticking the boxes on teams ahead of Seattle’s pick looking for OT, as well, in a draft that is light on OT.

      • Volume12

        The guy who calls his play style ‘Black Mamba Mode?’

        When they had a bye week last weekend, instead of sitting around, Walker helped clean up neighborhoods that were affected by Hurricane Matthew.

        I don’t take anything away from D-lineman that take a few snaps off in today’s game. With the pace of the game, # of reps/downs they play. These big hoys have a hard time.

        • Rob Staton

          Fair point — and when Walker is on it he’s a beast.

          • Volume12

            That he is. For whatever reason, Florida St just coaches their DE’s to play violently and turn it on at certain points.

            Was the same thing with Mario Edwards, Jr 2 years ago, who didn’t have the production Walker did, and we could make the case that he was one of the top 4-5 rookie D-lineman last year.

            • Rob Staton

              Apparently the Seahawks liked Mario Edwards Jr. I think La Canfora linked them.

              • Volume12

                I thought so. Thought I rememberd ya highlighting him and doing a post on him

        • Kenny Sloth

          Sorry I meant Dion Dawkins personality

  3. Aaron

    The current draft order is starting to look more realistic. The Panthers@4 is a pick that seems misplaced to me.

    Now about that pick. Wondering where he would fit on that line. The panthers have Star Lotulelei & Kawann Short both on contract until 2017 & 2018, respectively. Assuming the panthers keep both, where does Allen play? A role similar to the Red Bryant era in Seattle? That is a big line.

    • Volume12

      They like a big D-line. He’d replace Charles ‘$’ Johnson ideally.

      Jonathan Allen might be the safest prospect in the entire draft. Ceiling is Michael Bennett esque. Floor is Cam Heyward.

      • Aaron

        Charles seems like such a value to me though. He resigned for scrap money last off-season. Maybe he is different after his 2015 injury.

        • Volume12

          Their GM Dave Cattleman loves big D-lineman.

          8-9 guys is typical for D-lines that run a 4-3 as you know.

          DE’s- Charles Johnson, Jonathan Allen, Kony Ealy, Mario Addison
          DT’s- Star Lotulelei, Kawann Short, Vernon Butler

          W/O Allen, that’s only 6 players that are more than ‘JAGs.’

          • Aaron

            Quite a few SDB highlights in there from over the years. Short/Ealy especially, think Rob might have made a specific piece about each?

        • vrtkolman

          I’ve been following them quite a bit (I loved watching them play last year… this year not so much), and CJ is essentially washed up at this point. Their other end Kony Ealy has been a huge disappointment as well. Basically teams are doubling up on KK Short and Star, and the ends can’t create any sort of disruption. It’s a big reason why their defense has fallen off a cliff this year.

      • DavidM2

        Safest prospect in the draft & picking at #4 hmm remind you of anyone, Aaron Curry maybe? Just making a pun hopefully at the expense of the Panthers V-12 not criticizing your assessment of Allen. I too think he will be an amazing pick.

        • Volume12

          All good. No offense taken. I totally get where your coming from.

          I wanted Clay Matthews so bad that year.

          • HI Hawk

            After trading away Julius Peterson (supposedly due to big contracts at LB for Hill and Tatupu), I sure as heck didn’t want to just replace him with an expensive and inexperienced version. That’s what he felt like from the pre-draft hype on through his rookie season to me. I wanted Eugene Monroe, and my backup plan (had he been drafted 1-3) was Michael Crabtree.

    • Rob Staton

      Kawann Short is actually out of contract at the end of the season.

      • Aaron

        My mistake. Not quite sure how I misread that.

  4. AlaskaHawk

    Its hard for me to believe that Cleveland won’t use this opportunity to ruin another quarterback. But if they don’t want to do that — Fournette would be a good first choice. I wonder if they will trade down this year and try to accumulate more picks? They could trade down twice and still be in the 10-15 range with two extra draft picks. Might be worth it.

    Nice pick on Dion Dawkins guys, but now I’ll worry that he will get taken early as we usually end up with the 5th or 6th tackle taken in the first round. Even on a slow/bad year, I can’t imagine how the Seahawks would get the first tackle off the board.

  5. cha

    “4. Panthers 1-5 — Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)”

    Can I just enjoy the schadenfreude of this pick for a minute? After years of investing in the DL a Safety is leading the team in sacks. With 2. 2 sacks.

    A safety is the Panthers’ leading sacker with 2.

  6. Aaron

    49ers release Ian Williams.

    Hope Chip follows suit as a former Eagle. Swoop right in, cut/trade anything that has value, then disappear into the CFB night.

    • vrtkolman

      He’s a good player but he can’t stay healthy.

  7. vrtkolman

    I love this draft for Cleveland. Fournette could rejuvenate the entire fanbase, a la LeBron and the Cavs. If they land him and a solid QB, Hue Jackson is going to thrive. I hope they don’t trade down (which is a big possibility with their front office).

    • HI Hawk

      I doubt Cleveland drafts a “generational RB” at #1 this soon after Trent Richardson burned them. Trading down for additional picks would make a lot more sense, so they can build a competitive roster. I think Minnesota and Seattle as they are now, are good examples of what it takes to build a good roster. Big-time RBs don’t impact the W/L column a whole lot as evidenced by Lynch’s retirement and Peterson’s injury.

      Instead, what if they could come out of the draft with Budda Baker, Rueben Foster, and Demarcus Walker? Rebuild the defense, and expect another high pick next year to address the offense – specifically QB.

      • Rob Staton

        If they let Richardson influence their decision on Fournette, they’ll be making a huge mistake.

        • Andrew Gettman

          Agreed. Different front office, different priorities. That all being said, I would be shocked to see them take Fournette given how they managed the 2016 draft. If they stay in talent accumulation mode, they will most likely either draft a QB or trade down. It’s all about the value proposition. Some team will fall in love with a Goff/Winston/Bortles type of QB and will pay through the nose to get him. The Browns will either take that QB for themselves or move down for the good of the team.

          • Rob Staton

            On the contrary I think what we learned from the 2016 Cleveland draft class is they value stats. They basically picked anyone who produced in college.

            • Andrew Gettman

              They value stats, yes, but they moved back for value (twice) and then drafted stats.

              • Rob Staton

                They would’ve struggled to move back without the QB Wentz sitting at #2 — can’t imagine anyone giving up picks to move up for this collection of QB’s.

  8. Ground_Hawk

    I had to pause while reading, so that I could comment on Rob’s statement regarding Fournette: “he is the Bo Jackson of his generation.” What a compliment. I had a Bo Jackson poster as a kid, and he in my opinion is one of the best athletes to ever play in American sports history. Rob, I think you have a gift for talent evaluation, so when you say that I believe that you’re serious. If Fournette is that talented then whoever picks him will be a playoff contender. Thanks for your work man!

    • Volume12

      He is the best athlete to ever play IMO. Some of the things he was rumored to do are unreal.

      I believe he was unofficially timed as a 4.3 runner.

      • Ishmael

        He was unofficially timed as a 4.12 or 4.13 from memory, which seems more myth than anything, although I think Bo has said it was electronic. Regardless, Fournette simply isn’t the same class of athlete as Jackson, which I’m sure Rob would acknowledge. The Julio Jones of running backs comparison rings truer to me.

        Bo Jackson was a true God’s Own type of creation, once in a lifetime as opposed to once in a generation.

        • Rob Staton

          I think that’s fair. Bo was unique. Fournette might be the closest we ever see to him though.

        • LordSnow

          What blew me away was how the raiders got him, by just using a late rounder after he chose baseball “just in case” and they got a few dominating years out of him. No one was thinking sanely in that draft except for darth vader al davis.

          What is funny is his most famous football play was the Bosworth into the endzone tackle which actually was a great tackle by Bosworth but Bo was Bo, and Bosworth got the bust label after that play.

  9. Volume12

    Hmmm…who impressed Seattle enough from Cal last week that they’d be scouting them again back to back?

    2nd time they’ve scouted USC too.

    • Aaron


      Damariay DrewInjured SS California rSr 5-11 202
      Chris Borrayo OG California Sr 6-3 310
      Steven Moore OT California rSr 6-5 305
      Bradley Northnagel LS California rSr 6-3 240
      DeVante Wilson DE California Sr 6-5 265
      Antoine Albert CB California Sr 6-0 185

      Chris Borrayo would be my best guess. No tape on draftbreakdown.

      • Aaron

        Just watched RT #64 Steven Moore’s 2015 game vs. the Ducks. Not the best judge for OT but I’d say he is below average in pass protection, average on run blocking. Only real positive I saw is he can get to the second level.

        • Volume12

          USC OT Chad Wheeler is one of the best ZB OT’s I’ve seen so far.

          Injuries are a concern and will knock him down the board. Could be great value on day 3 or so if a guy like Temple OT Dion Dawkins is off the board, who I do believe Seattle likes a lot.

  10. Trevor

    I really think this will be Gus Bradley’s last game as HC of the Jags. Lost of young talent but that team is a mess. Too bad really as he seemed like a good guy when he was in SEA.

    • HawkFan907

      Same. Some guys are coordinators and not coaches. They have so much talent down there, it is a shame to see it go to waste.

    • Ishmael

      They make me sad. A lot of exciting young players, and Bradley is a fantastic dude by all accounts, but it is just so not working out over there. I genuinely believe a top coach like Carroll, Belichick, Zimmer, or similar would have had them in the playoffs this season.

      • Volume12

        Bradley has lost that team. You can see it in their body language.

  11. HawkFan907

    Great post Rob, keep them coming. The Browns would be set for years if this were the case. Fournette may be the best college football player I have ever seen. There have been great ones, but he is in a class of his own. I love the pick to the Redskins as well. What a compliment to Matt Jones, and he would win most of the snaps later in the year.

    Vol knows how to find prospects man, props to him. One he referenced to me in a comment a few weeks back was Taco Charlton out of Michigan. My preference would be to draft an inside/outside DT/DE as you mentioned, and I do love Charlton. He could rise as Michigan keeps winning and he keeps getting more air time.

    I don’t know if there are any other blogs out there who discuss prospects like this. It gives more meaning to watching football on Saturdays.

    • C-Dog

      Love Taco Charlton as a prospect.

      • Volume12

        Please keep an eye on UCLA’s EDGE Takkarist ‘Takk’ McKinley- 6’2-6’3, 265 lbs.

        He’s strong, understands leverage, explosive 1st step, great sense of when to use certain moves, he creates so much chaos and disruption.

        UCLA played him at 3-tech last year and he struggled. This kid is so raw, but man is he a freak! Right now he’s winning on pure athleticism, toughness, and grit. This dude’s motor never stops. He’s one of those guys that just has ‘it.’

        Amazing backstory too. Incredibly ‘Seahawky’.’ He left bacon and Mayo sandwiches next to Kenny Clark’s locker to try and lure him back to UCLA for this year.

        From Oakland, CA. Is a former JUCO guy (Contra Costa), his biological mom walked out on him when he was 5, went 12 years w/o seeing her and doesn’t talk to her anymore. Has no idea who his dad is. Went to Mississippi in 2012 to met a guy that was rumored to be his father, but a paternity test proved it wasn’t. Was raised by his Aunt and Grandmother. His Grandma passed away in 2011 and he promised her he would get to a division 1 school and the NFL before she died. Was a troubled teen and dealt with anger issues.

        Models his game after Greg Hardy and Aldon Smith. Was the MVP of UCLA’s spring training and was rumored to run a mid 4.5 40.

        • Volume12

          Oh yeah. He’s had a strained groin since TC and still has 14.0 TFL and 7 QB sacks.

          HC Jim Mora said he can’t keep this guy off the field. Comp’d him as a smaller, more explosive Datone Jones.

        • Rob Staton

          Love his personality based on what I could find on Youtube. Love his backstory and his potential. But on tape I want to see him get off blocks and not just flash when he has a free run to the QB. I’ve only watched one game though and will try and watch two more before forming a true opinion.

          • Volume12

            What game did you watch?

            • Volume12

              The Arizona St game, they stood him up and blitzed him a lot.

            • Rob Staton

              Arizona State. Looked good in space and when he had a free run. Wanted to see him engage/disengage and hand fight/bull rush too.

              • Volume12

                Not sure why they didn’t have him do that against them. Looked like they were in a 3-3-5.

                The Utah game and one other, I’ll remember when I see it, wanna say Arizona are the 2 to look out for.

                Has a super ‘Seahawky’ personality and attitude.

                • Volume12

                  There was a piece on that said scouts loved his athleticism. One said he was the ‘next DeMarcus Ware.’

        • JS

          V12: I’m totally with you on McKinley. He is unique. Did you see this?

          If you can read it and think that he doesn’t sound like a Seahawk, I don’t know what to tell you.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man, the community makes this blog awesome to write. So many knowledgeable contributors.

  12. Trevor

    Derrick Henry really is a size / speed freak!

    • Ishmael

      Was just thinking that watching him today. Sometimes we, and the NFL, overthink it as a scouting community. I’m Australian, and grew up watching Australian football, and one of the big maxims there is that a good big man is always better than a good little man.

      I think we’re seeing a bit of that with Derrick Henry. Who cares if he doesn’t have the hips of Percy Harvin or Devontae Freeman, he’s a monster we won’t see the like of for another decade.

      • Volume12

        Loved everything about RB Derrick Henry.

  13. teejmo

    Jerod Evans is a pretty interesting QB out of Virginia Tech. First year starter, coming out of juco. He’s a big guy with good mobility.

  14. rowdy

    With the state of the steelers why do you them picking a qb? Seems odd with big Ben and a number of other needs.

    • RealRhino2

      Agree. I know Ben is dinged up a little every year, but they probably feel like they’ve got a few more years and are in a window. Budda Baker feels like the kind of guy they might like at that spot, if things were to fall they way they do in Rob’s mock.

    • Ishmael

      He’s getting old, is good to miss at least three-four games a year through injury, and Landry Jones is dreadful. It’d be a good year for them to pick a talented kid to sit for a year or two, but is good enough to step in and get them a win if he has to.

    • Rob Staton

      Big Ben is 35 in March and gets nicked up every year. Last season he talked openly about retiring because he was worried about his health. Landry Jones is a FA and Pittsburgh seem like the type of clever franchise to plan ahead IMO.

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  16. CharlieTheUnicorn

    This is a hypothetical.. and in no way do I think this will happen.

    If you were the Seahawks and could trade 3 #1 picks (roughly) to the Browns to get Fournette …
    would you and should you?

    • Kyle

      id like to hear what rob and v12 think about this. but in my opinion it wouldn’t be 3 number 1’s. I bet they would trade two 1’s two 2’s and maybe some 4-5 round picks to get him from them.

    • C-Dog

      Nope. I wouldn’t. He’s a great player, but that’s too much draft capital.

    • Rob Staton

      I would seriously consider moving up for Fournette but not for three R1 picks. I’d consider a package including two R1’s.

      • HI Hawk

        I think standing pat for Nick Chubb, and pairing him with Thomas Rawls is a better play. Prosise is an explosive athlete, that we know, and he will be a very good receiver out of the backfield. Hopefully he and Rawls shake off early career injury issues, especially if neither is relied upon for more than 10 touches a game. Chubb does everything well and his balance is absurd, dare I say Marshawn-like.

    • LordSnow

      Only for an Andrew Luck coming in would I consider 3 #1’s. One injury and you lose 3 years of top draft capital.

    • Andrew Gettman

      Ok, let’s say we did trade 3 #1s. Let’s also say they were in the 20-32 range.

      Looking back at the 2010 to 2014 drafts (5 years of data), the odds of getting a superstar player in that range hover somewhere in the low 10% range, with Deandre Hopkins, Muhammed Wilkerson, Demaryius Thomas, Chandler Jones and Dez Bryant being the picks of the litter.

      The odds of getting a Pro Bowl caliber talent is about 20% with Alec Ogletree, Deone Bucannon, the other Trufant and Doug Martin being some interesting names.

      The odds of getting a decent player are somewhere in the range of 40% depending on how you feel about Nick Perry, Adrian Clayborn, James Carpenter or Dee Ford.

      That leaves us with 30%(!) remaining for poop. I am not kidding, it is not pretty when you put a team together with Tebow, Weeden, Manziel, Easley, Werner, Patterson, Elam and Jenkins.

      So, with 3 first round picks, Seattle could reasonably expect to draft an Alec Ogletree (with Chandler Jones as the upside), a James Carpenter and a Matt Elam. Even with the high upside, it would be hard not to bite the bullet and make that trade. Now, Seattle does draft well, but when generational talent is available they have been willing to aggressively move heaven and earth for it.

      • Tien

        Interesting point & metrics, Andrew. Fournette would be amazing on our team and the biggest downside I see in your argument is if Fournette suffers a freak injury and we don’t have him for a year and of course not having the picks to try to replace his production. I lean towards keep our picks and draft BPA but if they were to make a blockbuster trade to move up and get him, I wouldn’t be disappointed…but would be crossing my fingers big time!

  17. Ralphy

    All season long I’ve been telling my buddies to pay attention to Azeem Victor because he screams Seahawk to me. Of course you now have him going before the Hawks pick so maybe they won’t even have a shot at him. I sure do love how he plays though. Very Seahawky!

    • Rob Staton

      Azeem Victor is an animal. Ideal Seahawk if he tests as well as you’d expect. Great attitude. Not convinced LB would be a big need but would be cool to see him in Seattle.

      • Ralphy

        I was wondering if he could possibly be a Chancelor replacement?

        • Rob Staton

          Would prefer him at LB. He’s listed at 230lbs which is 5lbs bigger than Kam — but I think Kam is kind of maxed out size wise while Victor probably has some growing to do.

          • HI Hawk

            Kam is over 230 lbs – I don’t care what they list him as, he is at least 235, probably closer to 240. Kelcie McCray is 220, so is Shead. Neither of them look nearly as big as Kam.

        • sdcoug

          Keep an eye on wsu’s Shalom Luani as a chancellor replacement / Deone Buchanon mold. Was a FS last year, and is playing SS this season in a similar SS/LB role. Kid can hit, run, flash into the backfield and really cover. Real playmaker. V12 noted JS was scouting the cougs too, and was on their sideline at the Wsu/asu game

    • C-Dog

      I would love seeing Victor in Seahawks blue on Sundays. Huge fan.

  18. LordSnow

    Damn. Kam probably out again.

    • DLep

      Saw that. I wonder how this situation is going to play out long term. After this season, he will have one year left on his deal and we know from last year he has some issues w the current contract. But given that he has missed multiple games now the last two seasons I have to question how much leverage he really has. Does anyone think he would attempt to hold next season? I know the Hawks like to re up guys w they have one year left but if Kam increases his contract demands I have to question whether the front office will really be receptive to that.

      • Volume12

        He lost his leverage and they have a cheap fill-in behind him that hasn’t cost them any games in McCray, unlike last year with Dion Bailey who was actually hurting the defense.

        I think they’ll grab a big safety this year. If ever there was a year to do it, it’s 2017.

        PC will always have time and a soft spot for Kam, but he’s probably not going to get mega bucks.

        • LordSnow

          Clayton this morning compared him to Bob Sanders and his body breaking down from playing style and age. Finding his eventual draft replacement is probably a good topic for discussion at some point.

          • Rob Staton

            They might already have his replacement. McCray is playing well.

            • Trevor

              I agree completely Rob what a pleasant surprise Mcray has been and he will only get better with playing time.

              I have come around to your way of thinking about Chancellor I don’t think the Hawks will ever cut or trade him. He is just too much a presence with that group of players and Pete seems about as loyal as you can possibly be in the cut throat NFL.

              He does seem to be breaking down though an dif the injuries keep mounting I just don’t see a big deal in the cards for him.

              My favorite player you have highlighted so far is Fournette obviously but Malik Hooker is a very close second. Any chance he could fall in a range where he might be available to the Hawks or is that fantasy land? Can you imagine the range he and Earl Could cover on the back end.

        • HawkFan907

          I agree, great year for safeties. If only we good package some players for picks…

  19. austin slater

    Great stuff as usual Rob. Loved seeing Ross getting some first round love and 3 Huskies overall.

  20. LordSnow

    Now it is rumored Michael Bennett is out for this upcoming game.

  21. Trevor

    I am just getting started digging into this years draft class and is it just me or does this class seem absolutely loaded at every position except QB and OT?

    Rob, Vol and the rest of the group what are your thoughts on the Tackle out of Wisconsin Ryan Ramczyk. Seems really solid technically but I doubt he is explosive or athletic enough to pass the TEF at least on initial viewing. Would love to hear peoples thoughts. The Kid from Temple is definitely a guy to keep an eye on.

    • Rob Staton

      Wasn’t blown away by Ramczyk. Thought he had a guard frame.

    • Volume12

      I like him, but I don’t think he’ll declare, nor do I think he should.

      I also think your setting the fan base and your followers up for disappointment when you say things like… ‘So 2017 draft, Ramcyzk or bust?’ as you know who has proclaimed.

  22. Trevor

    No Kam and No Bennett against a strong NO offense on the Road coming off a 100 snap previous week.

    An offense with a guy at LT who has not started a game since Pee Wee football and a banged up Wilson.

    This could be interesting on Sunday. This is going to be a much much bigger test than initially thought. If they can pull this out then this teams guts and mental toughness is unparalleled in the league.

  23. nichansen01

    In that situation, I would take Demarcus Walker. Bennet is struggling with injuries more and more, and Clark and Jefferson both seem to be fragile as well. We need another pass rusher, anyways, since we still have trouble generating that push up the middle.

    • Volume12

      Bennett has never missed a game in 3 years. Every guy plays ‘hurt.’ Being injured ois different.

  24. East Side Stevie

    This is worth a look:

  25. C-Dog

    Watching Mich v Mich St. Brock Huard on the ste, “Pete Carroll told me to say to Coach Harbaugh we are watching this defense from afar.”

    • C-Dog

      This Wolverine D is loaded, becoming a big Ryan Glasgow fan, think he might sneak up draft boards this year.

  26. Kenny Sloth

    Lamar Jackson showing his inexperience with some nasty throws and miscues

    Usually quiet on the sideline he overheard his receiver group dwelling on some missed opportunities. He stood up and said ‘enough! We’re DONE talking about that’. Good to see him growing and becoming the leader he will have to be at the next level.

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