Seahawks 2017 draft targets: Looking for bullies

I wrote a piece for Field Gulls today but wanted to post the link here too (check it out). It’s a review of Seattle’s possible 2017 draft needs and prospects the Seahawks might consider at each position.

Here are the games on my schedule tomorrow:

Pittsburgh @ Clemson
South Carolina @ Florida
Auburn @ Georgia
Michigan @ Iowa
California @ Washington State (which is on at 4:30am over here so I’ll save for another day)

And here’s a mock draft to get you into the weekend:

1. Browns — Myles Garrett (EDGE, Texas A&M)
2. 49ers — Jabrill Peppers (S, Michigan)
3. Jaguars — Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
4. Bears — Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. Jets — Tim Williams (EDGE, Alabama)
6. Titans via Rams — Malik Hooker (S, Ohio State)
7. Panthers — Jamal Adams (S, LSU)
8. Buccaneers — Takkarist McKinley (EDGE, UCLA)
9. Cardinals — Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
10. Bengals — Reuben Foster (LB, Alabama)
11. Titans — Tre’Davious White (CB, LSU)
12. Colts — Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
13. Bills — Dawuane Smoot (EDGE, Illinois)
14. Chargers — Justin Evans (S, Texas A&M)
15. Ravens — Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
16. Dolphins — O.J. Howard (TE, Alabama)
17. Browns via Eagles — John Ross (WR, Washington)
18. Saints — Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
19. Packers — Jarrad Davis (LB, Florida)
20. Steelers — DeShaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
21. Lions — Malik McDowell (DE, Michigan)
22. Washington — Cam Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
23. Eagles via Vikings — Jalen Tabor (CB, Florida)
24. Giants — Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
25. Texans — Demarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
26. Broncos — Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
27. Falcons — Carl Lawson (EDGE, Auburn)
28. Seahawks — Garett Bolles (T, Utah)
29. Chiefs — Dan Feeney (G, Indiana)
30. Raiders — Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
31. Cowboys — Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
32. Patriots — Alex Anzalone (LB, Florida)


  1. Michael M.

    I’m just guessing here, but I bet there’s never been a draft with 5 safetys in the first round. This would be very interesting.

    • Rob Staton

      Great year for safety’s.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Keanu Neal was 1st round last year to the Falcons if I recall correctly…..
      one going top 5 would be very unique. Normally only a CB would get that type of draft love.

      • Nathan

        Raiders picked a safety at 14 too.

  2. peppapig

    That’s a lot of defense in the first.

    I’d sell the farm for Fournette!

    • Adog

      Last year I was of the mind that the Seahawks should trade the house to move up and grab Elliot. I’m not as enamored with fournette. He reminds me more like a Bettis/lacy big grueling back than say a jump cut twitcher like lynch that fit the zbs so well.

      • goatweed

        Comparing him to Bettis/Lacy is seriously short changing his combination of speed, power and agility. The closest comparison that comes to mind is Earl Campbell. I think he is faster than Earl but Earl was plenty fast for his time. Now, that’s just a comparison of running style, not careers.

        Where Bettis/Lacy carry most of their power in their midsections, Leonard carries it mostly in his legs.

  3. John T

    Hi Rob, in addition to Hood, Ive been watching a bit of Kareem Hunt the last couple of days. He also has a lot of the ideals that the Seahawks look for and only 1 fumble in 723 rushing attempts. He recovered his own fumble btw. Add in his 62 receptions and that’s 785 times hes had the ball without turning the it over. Great balance, low center of gravity, good yards after contact, physical running style and he squats 500 pounds. Any opinion on him?

    • Rob Staton

      Really strong but lacks a second gear based on what I’ve watched.

      • John T

        That seems to be the knock on him and what Ive seen too. No break away speed and gets caught from behind but at the same time he gets through and racks up a lot of tough hard fought yards.

      • EranUngar

        To be honest, after watching a RB with the greatest second gear ever finishing his runs behind the LOS on over 50% of his runs, I’d be very happy with a reliable hard fought 4 yards to keeps us on schedule.

        With the way the passing game works right now we do not need the explosive 2nd level plays from our RB. We just need someone that can get to the 2nd level consistently.

        • Rob Staton

          A slower, more powerful back isn’t going to get any further upfield than a 5-10, 220lbs explosive runner. He’s not going to power his way for four yards through three defenders. He’ll just get swamped in the backfield.

  4. Volume12

    Special shout out to our veterans today.

    You’re all probably not told this enough, but thank you. ?

  5. bankhawk

    The piece over on Field Gulls was brilliant, Rob! Kudos as always!

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man πŸ™‚

  6. Volume12

    Keep hearing good things about Tennessee St OL Jessamen Dunker.

    Then I noticed Seattle has scouted his team this year. The same school that produced current Seahawk, Robert ‘Snack’ Myers (PS).

    Didn’t begin playing football until his junior year of HS. Tony Pauline calls him ‘one of the better ZB guards in this years Senior class.’

    He’s a transfer from Florida after getting in trouble for stealing a scooter.

    He chose Florida over Auburn, ‘Bama, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, S.Carolina, Baylor, Florida St, W.Virginia, ND, and Vandy.

    Thing is, I can’t find any tape on him. But, I think he might be someone to monitor and could be a solid addition on day 3.

  7. Sea Mode

    I posted a comment over on FG, but I’ll paste part of it here so others can throw out names if they have any (I’m looking at you, V12… πŸ˜‰

    Anyone caught your eye yet for our annual R5 CB to add to Pete’s factory? Sherman aint gonna last forever, you know, and they do take a few years to fine tune…

    On the production line as of now we’ve got:
    DeAndre Elliot (age 23) 6007, 189, 31.87″ arm, 4.55 40yd, 41″ vert, 125″ broad
    Neiko Thorpe (age 26)_6012, 198, 31.75″ arm, 4.39 40yd, 38″ vert, 137″ broad
    Pierre Desir (age 26)___6010, 198, 33.??” arm, 4.52-9 40yd, 38″ vert, 133″ broad

    (33in arms! More on him:

    Guess that pretty much sums up the physical profile the Hawks go for at CB (as if we didn’t already know that…). Might as well throw in the starters just to have all the info together in one glance:

    Richard Sherman (age 28) 6025, 195, 32.00″ arm, 4.52 40yd, 42″ vert, 130″ broad
    Deshawn Shead (age 28)__6011, 212, 32.??” arm, 4.53 40yd, 38″ vert, 121″ broad (Sherm + 20lbs…)
    Jeremy Lane (age 26)_____6000, 190, 32.5″ arm, 4.52 40yd, 42″ vert, 130″ broad (Sherm – 2.5in…)

    Too bad Tye Smith didn’t pan out. He is currently on the Redskins PS. (along with A.J. Francis, btw)

    And here’s the rest (Tharold, Browner, Maxwell) in case anyone cares.

    • Rob Staton

      Hi Sea Mode, I posted a reply at Field Gulls — hope you get a chance to check it out. Difficult one to answer at the moment.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Desit was a pick I thought Seattle might make in that draft…. didn’t go as planned, but he did end up on the roster the long way.

    • Volume12

      Udub CB Kevin King
      VA-Tech CB Brandon Facyson

      Those top 2 may be more 3rd-4th rounders

      Michigan CB Channing Stribling
      Colorado CB Ahkello Witherspoon & Tedric Thompson (hybrid DB)
      Tennessee St CB Ezra Robinson (basing him oftt things I’ve heard and remember when he was at Michigan St)
      Utah CB Brian Allen
      Mid Tennessee St Jeremy Cutrer
      Oregon St CB Treston DeCoud- has everything but technique
      Nebraska CB Chris Jones- Bo Pelini guy
      Arkansas St DB Cody Brown (hybrid)

      Its a really good corner class. Those are just some guys that look like they’ll meet their thresholds for the position. Tough to say. But obviously, smart, long, aggressive, and ball skills.

      • Volume12

        Oregon CB Tyree Robinson. Has Shead like size and versatility.

  8. KD


    A bit off topic here, but if you are going to be staying in downtown Seattle, our light rail system now connects to Husky Stadium and will literally drop you off at the front gate of the stadium.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man πŸ™‚

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Trust me, the ONLY way to get to and from the game. Driving is TERRIBAD.

  9. TannerM

    Christine Michael listed as questionable for Sunday’s game. If he can’t make it, well, there running game will be on the backs of a couple rookies.

    • Volume12

      Let’s see what Prosise can do with a heavy workload. They seem to have big plans for this guy going forward. Excited to see how how it develops.

  10. Nathan W.

    Hey Rob – I was just wondering about a pretty rarely scouted position: Are there any cool fullbacks that are in the draft this year? It’s not really a hot position to scout, but I figure that good fullbacks can help complement the tone in the run game and help with pass pro in the passing game, as well as offering themselves as viable options in the Hawk’s red zone offense.

    Also – I love Kam Chancellor, his jersey is the first that I bought when I was 16 and had the money saved up to buy my first Pete Carroll-era Hawks jersey, but when do we start looking for and grooming his replacement? I do not think that he is a detriment to the team right now, nor do I think I think he has lost his ability to set a tone of ferocity on defense, but it is clear his body is starting to wear down faster than other safeties because of the vicious nature in which he plays the game. McCray is no slouch of a safety, but he does not really bring either the leadership or the tone-setting nature that Chancellor does. Is there a chance we ignore the glaring need at both tackles and take one of the safeties you listed above?

    • Sea Mode

      Not Rob, but I’m pretty sure they have high hopes for Brandon Cottom at FB. They spoke highly of him in the offseason before he went down for the year with an achilles injury.

      6’2″, 262lbs with versatility as a TE and former RB. Hopefully he can bounce back next season and be the guy.

    • Rob Staton

      I think it’s unlikely on the safety’s. Short of Peppers they’re all very different to Kam. I suspect they are comfortable with McCray as a fill-in and Kam continuing in his role. Tyvis Powell also might come into the equation over time. I think Kam will be good for a while yet though.

      Full back is really tough because most teams in college don’t use them. I think it’s a case of looking for plus athletes (as per with this team). They seem to want a very versatile, multi-faceted FB.

      • Nathan W.

        Hm.. do you think there are any safeties that could be developed in the later rounds? I think Chancellor, when first scouted out, was known primarily as a hard hitter, and while he is that, he developed into an acceptable cover safety over the middle as well. I wonder if the Hawks would consider something similar again? Draft a hard hitter and teach him how to cover better?

        Thanks for answering about FBs. I’ve always loved that position.

  11. Spireite Seahawk

    First OL off the board at 28? Seems unlikely to me, as a team with a need will overpay.

    The worrying thing though is the dearth of top level o line talent. A continued indictment on the state of the college game.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s not a good group for OL’s and age will be a factor for Bolles (25 next May).

    • Ukhawk

      I get the feeling teams will shy away from OL. Not only are there not many R1 OLs but there are just too many superior athletes on defense to ignore… Maybe this will be another great opportunity for the Hawks to zig to the offense while others zag?

      • Ground_Hawk

        I think with the Seahawks current struggles setting up the run that you could be right Ukhawk.

  12. C-Dog

    After watching Utah again the other night against AZ St, I cam away even more enamored with Bolles, but did anyone else enjoy the pass rush showcase put on be Hunter Dimick?

    I wanted to post about this earlier, but was sidetracked by life. This guy was relentless and living in the backfield, 4 sacks from the 5 tech, 6-3 272 lbs, and probably coulda had a few more.

    There might be a few Utes I’d like to see on the Seattle roster next year.

    • Volume12

      Like EDGE Pita Taumoepenu? Dude is all motor and effort. Really cool player.

      Dimick looks like he has T-rex arms.

      • C-Dog

        Taumoepenu looked great as well. I didn’t notice the t-Rex of Dimick, just that hustle.

  13. C-Dog

    Rob, love your piece on fieldgulls. Really want to see this team get back to that chief bully status again, asap.

    : R1P28

    60: R2P28

    92: R3P28

    135: R4P32

    206: R6P27

    214: R6P35

    226: R7P8

    For the sake of argument, I am going to say Seattle is much closer to the bully status on the D than the O. As much as I’d love to see them add to the inside rush, R1, I still feel like there’s some upside sitting on the roster in Reed and Q Jeff, and think they can be patient there. If Bolles is still there, just grab him. Ditto for an explosive back like Hood.

    With the deep draft at DL, LB, and DB, Seattle can focus intently at those areas further down the draft. Taylor could further add some inside push, Biegel at SAM, Moreau adds corner depth.

    I’ve been yearning for a while for Seattle to get a runner/reciever type at FB back into the offense, would love to see them draft a guy like Stevenson.

  14. AndrewP

    As a Coug, I’m curious to hear your thoughts on:

    Like Falk
    River Cracraft
    Gabe Marks
    Shalom Luani

    I definitely have my own, but, I’ll save until you have the chance to watch yourself.

    • j

      Add the o-line to that list. LG O’Connell, RT Madison, C Sorenson

  15. Volume12

    This kid is really exciting. Old Dominion WR Zach Pascal- 6’2, 215 lbs.

    Impacts the game in a multitude of ways. Runner, receiver, ST’s, H-back, blocking, wild cat. Looks like a great athlete.

    Oh yeah, Seattle has scouted an OD practice twice now.

  16. Volume12

    Kevin White’s borther, Kyzir White, safety from W.Virginia is a stud! 6’3, 220 lbs.

    • Ukhawk

      Kyzir Sozei?

    • Trevor

      He certainly has the physical skill set. Do you think Kevin Whites performance to date with the Bears will scare teams off Vol? I still think that is why Carr fell to the Raiders because of big brother being a bust.

      • Volume12

        No. Kevin White was perceived as soft and didn’t like contact.

        That was a dumb reason to pass on Carr.

        • Kenny Sloth

          He came from a spread offense and didn’t have protoypical size.

          I thought his footwork and pocket presence were top notch

          • Volume12

            It teams didn’t liked him because of the gimmicky offense he played in is one thing. But, if they knocked him because of his brother? Stupid IMO.

            • Kenny Sloth

              I think that actually helped his case.

              I may not take it under much consideration, but teams love NFL bloodlines

            • Kenny Sloth

              How crazy is it that he witnessed his brother bust out titanically before ever stepping on an NFL field.

  17. JimQ

    I know WR is a bit of a lesser need in the upcoming draft, but maybe the Seahawks could consider getting a good TD machine for the red zone?

    WR-Corey Davis, Western Michigan, 6-2-7/8″, 212, 4.45/40.
    I know this kid plays in the MAC conference so level of competition must be considered. However, this season he has 62 catches for 1029-yards, 16.6-avg & has 14-TD’s (#2 in TD’s). His best game so far this season was against Ball St on 11/01/16 and was pretty good, 12 receptions for 272-yds (22.7-avg) & 3-TD’s. For his career (so far) he has 297 catches for 4814-yds (16.2-avg AND a total of ———->47-TD’s, = pretty damn productive. Note: W. Michigan is undefeated so far this season & from what I’ve seen, Davis is a big reason why that is so, a true man against boys type of player.

    Another WR of potential quality that I’m keeping an eye on is Taywan Taylor of W. Kentucky. Currently #3 in FBS & has 71/1174, 16.5-avg & 10-TD’s. Might be a little bit of a sleeper?

    • Trevor

      I have been following Davis for a couple of years now and he is by far my favorite WR in the 2017 draft. He is is supposed to be a great team mate with unmatched work ethic and a tremendous back story.

      I don’t think the Hawks with take an WR early but if they do I would love to see this kid in our offense!. One of my favorite players in the whole draft.

      • C-Dog

        I’m a big Corey Davis fan. I wouldn’t put it past Seattle to draft WR early if they thought it was a special player. Luxury pick.

    • Rik

      Antonio Brown came out of the MAC, and so did Big Ben and Antonio Gates. The MAC is solid.

  18. Trevor

    Can someone give me an update where we stand for next years draft with regards to draft picks including expected comp picks? I am not sure anymore after the trades and loosing that one for practicing too hard.

    Thanks in advance and I know the comp picks are only a forecast.

    • C-Dog

      I think it looks like comp picks in R4 and R6.

    • cha

      I believe the Hawks are at:

      4-projected comp (irvin)
      4-projected comp (sweezy)
      (no natural 4th, traded to Patriots to draft Q Jefferson)
      (no natural 5th, forfeit for camp violations)
      7-received from Carolina for K Norwood
      (very likely no natural 7th, traded to Oak conditionally for D McDonald)

      There is also a bit of a wildcard in how the league will treat Okung’s FA contract. Outside chance the Hawks get a comp pick out of that.

      • Volume12

        Sweezys is a 6th right now.

  19. Trevor

    I know Oregons offense is dreadful but can you imagine Mcaffery in the Pats offense.

    • Kenny Sloth


  20. Volume12

    This LB from Clemson, Dorian O’Daniel is interesting. Reminds me of a Malcolm Smith type guy.

  21. Volume12

    Damn. What a game that was between Pitt and Clemson! Wow.

    Georgia HB Sony Michel kinda the forgotten man this year looked real good today. Especially between the tackles.

    Seattle with multiple scouts at this Michigan vs Iowa game.

    • Kenny Sloth

      I was thinking the same thing re; Michel

      Chubb’s awareness and vision will get him further at the next level than his athleticism.

      Very patient and fluid runner

      • Volume12

        Extremely patient. Good burst and almost always seems to identify the holes or correct lanes.

        • Volume12

          We’re talking Michel right?

          • Volume12

            I think Ohio St’s Curtis Samuel has some Percy Harvin to his game.

            One of the most unique playmakers in the country.

            • Rik

              Yep, I really like Samuel as an offensive weapon. Gotta think PCJS like him too, with his athleticism.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Eager pass blocker. Its good they have somone to spell him and save his legs, but I wish he was on the field more.

          Rolls Royce is probably outside of our size paragon at RB

          • Volume12


  22. rowdy

    Looks like uw is playing the officials too

    • Volume12

      USC has got some legit talent man.

      • rowdy

        Doesn’t have anything to do with horrible officiating

      • C-Dog

        That Trojan line is massive and the Huskies aren’t able to get much pressure. Darnold is ridiculous. I think the Dawgs are in trouble tonight.

        • Volume12

          That Zach Banner kid is awful. Just terrible.

          • C-Dog

            He’s definitely not pretty. What do you think of Chad Wheeler?

            • Volume12

              I actually like Wheeler. I think he’s one of the better ZB OT’s in this class.

              Really good pass protector. Would like to see him get more push in the run game and latch on to his guy a little more. I’ll be very surprised if he doesn’t test near the top come combine team. Looks really athletic.

              Has kind of a crazy, intense personality too. Has some off-field issues too, but a guy that gets to the 2nd level with ease, smooth/clean movements, you can tell he understands the game and position well because he’s hardly ever out of position.

              • Volume12

                *time not team.

              • C-Dog

                Yeah, I read about some of his off field issues, which has given me pause, but to my eyes he looks the part of a tackle that can come into the league and play.

                Tough game for the Huskies tonight. I think the Trojans might be on there way back. Impressed with #94 Rasheem Green.

                • Volume12

                  Yeah, tough to say where his value lays right now.

                  That entire defensive unit for USC was impressive. Especially that D-line.

                  • AlaskaHawk

                    I had told a UW fan that if they ever faced Alabama that they would be 15 point underdogs because of the difference in linemen size. Sure enough USC, the old bullies of the Pac -12 was able to push them around. Especially evident in the lack of UW pass rush and the much better USC pass rush.

                    Too bad that USC early season losses have knocked them out of high ranking. They are on a 6 game win streak since changing QBs. If they could have started as strong as they are finishing they would be in the top 4 right now.

                    USC won’t win the Pac 12 or get in the BCS playoffs, but I hope they do get a decent bowl game against a good team. Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Clemson or Oklahoma would all be good matchups depending on who is available.

                  • Volume12

                    Their QB Sam Darnold is a legit NFL prospect. Really exciting looking kid.

                    I’m trying to figure out who Seattle was maybe looking at on USC. They’ve scouted them twice. I mean of course they could just be doing due diligence, but I don’t have them scouting USC last year. Doesn’t mean they didn’t though. But, after last night, I’m seeing why they have.

                    Defensively, most of their standouts/studs are SOs.

                    I agree with ya. Hope they get a good bowl game. Even USC vs Penn St would be exciting.

        • J

          2nd biggest line in the pac-12 by my measure. Average 318 lbs.

          WSU tops them at an average of 323.

          • Volume12

            Good info there. Thanks for the heads up my man.

  23. rowdy

    The officials are giving us contact everything

    • rowdy


      • Volume12

        Wonder how legit that injury is for Azeem.

  24. TannerM

    Ross just broke that corner back’s ankles.

    • Volume12

      Combine will be huge for him. We know he’s a freak athlete, but those medicals will be huge for him.

      • Volume12

        Is Udub QB Jake Browning another Kellen Moore?

        • C-Dog

          Rough night for him. I wonder if he’s hurt because it looked like he folded in the 4th quarter

          • Volume12

            He’s got a weak arm. Good thing for him is that he’s got a couple more years to develop. Looks like he weighs about a buck ’85.

            • C-Dog

              When he tripped up on himself in the end zone, I thought to myself that he’d be well served to get into that weight room after bowl season. I think he got a exposed tonight.

  25. Rob Staton

    Alabama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

    • Volume12

      By far.

      • Volume12

        Its too bad they play Auburn, because Auburn looks like a playoff team. Love their defense.

        • Volume12

          Meant before today.

    • Troy

      yup think that is pretty obvious after tonight…

  26. Volume12

    I like USC WR Darreus Rogers. Way underrated. Can’t press him.

  27. East Side Stevie

    Anyone watching Michigan Iowa?

    • C-Dog

      Yup, just turned to it. Interesting day of CFB.

  28. C-Dog

    And down goes the Wolverines. What a wonderfully strange day of CFB.

    • Volume12

      1st time since ’85 that the #2,3, and 4 team were beaten in the same day.

      Upset Saturday at its finest.

      • Volume12

        Penn St is sittin’ pretty right now. The own the tiebreaker over Ohio St.

        • C-Dog

          Yeah, ya know, I’m just going to say it’s almost fitting considering how this week has gone, for us to get this strange day.

          Penn St has to be in there. It will be interesting to see how the top 4 shakes up.

          • Volume12

            And considering this week, it was great to get some laughs in tonight.

            Ladies and gentleman the GOAT, Mr. Dave Chappelle. And he brought back all his characters. ?


            • Madmark

              I love the mad real world skit from S1 E6 of the Dave Chappelle show. ROF!

              • Volume12

                I forgot about that one.

                The Rick James skit is up there too.

                Last night was as close as we’ll ever get to S4 of the Chappelle show.

                • Kenny Sloth

                  Clayton Bigsby is hard to watch, but overall one of my favorite skits of all time.

            • C-Dog


            • Kenny Sloth

              He really helped redfine the modern comedian. Some of the edgiest and most inciting jokes.

              A lot of comesians have pushed the boundary in a lot of ways, but few were able to make such an impact on the mainstream as Chappelle.

              (though I will have to put him at a hard fifth all-time behind some order of Dangerfield, Carlin, Pryor, and Eddie Murphy)

  29. East Side Stevie

    Vol 12 how ironic is it that the day ib 1985 that #2 #3 #4 lost it just so hapoened that Iowa beat michigan that day as well… Thats crazy what are the odds????

    • Volume12

      Very crazy. I didn’t know that. I guess in some cases history really does repeat itself.

  30. East Side Stevie

    I watched th whole Michigan Iowa game and there were sone impressive hawkeyes

  31. TannerM

    Big losers outside of the upsets tonight: Ohio St. Sure they won 62-3, but with Michigan losing, they have to pray that Penn St loses once. Too bad the Nittany Lions take one Michigan St and Rutgers. The voters for the playoffs have said that conference championships are extremely important, but will tonight’s results actually lead to a non-conference champion making it in in just the second year?

    • Volume12

      I’m rooting for that Penn St squad. Thats a gritty team too. They just find ways to win. Sounds familiar.

      I like that big TE they got. Mike Gesicki. Couple really good safeties in Marcus Allen and Malik Golden.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Marcus Allen is very cerebral and athletic

  32. Volume12

    Imagine if a great defensive, DB guru like PC got his hands on USC’s CB Adoree Jackson? Oh my gawd! With his athleticism, STs ability, and fearlessness?

    • Trevor

      Would be nice to see!

      • Volume12

        It would, but highly doubtful. Just me fantasizing.

        Looks like its time to scratch Ubub LB Azeem Victors name off any list. Hesx returning for his senior season.

        • Darren

          If it’s a broken bone he might be ready for the combine.

          • Volume12

            He plans on returning is what I’ve heard.

  33. Trevor

    So pumped for the game tonight against the Pats.

    Anyone else think the key to the game tonight will be the Hawks being able to run the ball and keep time of possession more reasonable than it has been recently?

    I know that no one is giving the Hawks a chance but I think they can win this game if the Hawks D can keep the Pats under 27 points and the Offense does not turn the ball over. Locket and the special teams game will be huge IMO.

    Predicted score 30-24 Pats because of short week and cross country trip but really hoping 27-24 Hawks.

    • Volume12

      Yeah, not expecting a win, but its certainly possible. We’ve seen how this team responds when you back them into a corner.

      Have the Pats even been tested this year? We also saw last night in the CFB world what happens when a team that rolls through every game and opponent actually gets tested.

  34. Volume12

    Love this Titans run game. Just smash mouth, throwback, run it down their throats. If they get a defense and a couple weapons for Mariota, watch out for them next year in a wide open AFCS.

    GB. Ha! What a joke. Love watching them get thumped. And have the wheels fallen off in Minnesota or what? Good trade for Bradford Spielman.

    • Trevor

      They are the true bully in the NFL on offense and it is fun to watch.

      • nichansen01

        I haven’t watched the titans at all this year. How does Jack Conklin look? Also curious about Austin Johnson and Kevin Dodd on the d-line. Brian Orakpo looks to be having a good year.

        • Volume12

          Pretty good, but they help him a lot. Kudos to that staff though for identifying what his strengths and weakness’s were. Hardly ever one on one.

          Orakpo really is having a hell of a year.

          Haven’t noticed or focused to much on Austin Johnson, but Kevin Dodd has played well. If I had to guess, Tennessee fans are probably pretty satisfied with Dodd.

          They just need another weapon for Mariota and a couple CB’s.

          • Volume12

            They got 2 other rookies that playing good too. WR Tajae Sharpe. He’s just starting to come along. And S Kevin Byard has been really impressive.

  35. Trevor

    You can say what you want about not needing to spend early draft capital on OL but the proof is in the pudding. The two best run games in the NFL belong to the Cowboys and Titans who have both spent a ton of draft captal on the OLs. Now it will pay off for the next 4-5 years.

    • Volume12

      Seattle has spent a ton of draft capital on the O-line. Under PC/JS they’ve drafted 15-16 O-lineman and signed right around the same amount in FA.

      Now, the argument could be made that maybe its time to put down the calculator and protractor when it comes to evaluating these guys, but I doubt that happens.

      And all the FAs have been from the bargain bin, but they gotta save $ somewhere, somehow.

      One dominant OT is all this line is missing IMO.

      • Kenny Sloth

        We’ve got our Center, we’ve got some depth, we have our Bully.

        Bolles would look so good in Action Green

        Did Rob call the pick 8 months in advance?

  36. Ukhawk

    Amazing results in Hawks favour/favor today – Atlanta, Car, Minn lose and Packers looking to lose as well down 16pts!

    • Nathan

      Pittsburgh just did us a favour too.

      • Nathan

        Silly me, game is still going,

  37. Volume12

    Great game between Dallas and Pittsburgh.

    • Volume12

      Pittsburgh would have this game wrapped up if they ever kicked XP’s.

      4 missed 2 pt conversions.

  38. Trevor

    Dallas the only team in the NFC I fear for the Hawks. That offense is the perfect attack to face our defense.

    Tony Romo will never see the field again in a Cowboys uniform.

    • Rob Staton

      Worth noting…

      Dallas are a really good team but the Eagles should’ve beaten them on their own patch and today, if the Steelers just kicked their extra points instead of this stupid two point obsession, they probably win too.

      • Trevor

        I agree and their defense is not great but that offense with a accurate mobile QB who excels in the short passing game, a great OL and dominant run game are all the elements our D struggle with. If we play them I see it as a 27-24 type game that could go either way.

        Like the Hawks good teams find a way to win and as much as it pains me to say the Cowboys look like a good team.

        So relieved the see Carolina basically get a fork put in them today because I really thought they were going to make a run in the 2nd half of the season.

        • Volume12

          I’m really looking forward to see Dallas vs Baltimore next week. Curious to see if Bmore’s pass rush can get home.

          Dallas also has to go on the road in their division 3 times I beleive.

      • Ishmael

        The numbers say they’re doing the right thing with all the two-pointers.

        Didn’t work today, but I like it for the most part.

  39. JT

    Rob – any chance we can get a fresh post/thread for game-time?

    Go Hawks

  40. Volume12

    For me, this game feels like a huge non-conference game in CFB. Obviously, there’s implications, but an AFC vs NFC battle lacks the importance.

  41. JT

    Good first drive except for the Kearse drops. Let’s go defense

  42. nichansen01

    Come on kearse. Catch the ball. That play probably just lost us the game. Critical we got a touchdown there.

    • JT

      Believe man. They got this

      • Volume12

        Clark is a stud. He get us off the field there. Then Marsh gets Brady off his spot.

        • JT

          Lmao Kearse c’mon man. P-Rich needs more of his snaps

          • nichansen01

            Kearse drops another one. Then looks lost in the end zone as the ball sails over his head. Stop. Throwing. To. Kearse. I want to see Richardson and McEvoy get targets.

            • Volume12

              McEvoy is inactive I think.

              I agree about P-Rich getting more reps though.

              Prosise looks like the next 3rd round stud.

  43. JT

    Holy pressure. Keep it up DL.

  44. Volume12

    If this team starts running down the ball, look out. We’ll be tough to beat.

    • Volume12

      Don’t know why I put down in there.

      • Volume12

        Never thought I’d say this, but we need a damn LS.

        Hopefully they can bring back Gresham or add one of the better ones in UDFA next draft.

    • JT

      This is the weakest front 4 we’ve faced maybe all season, which helps. But the read-option is back this week too! Even if Russ doesn’t keep it, it changes the dynamic

      • Volume12

        Win or lose, the run game is getting on track.

      • rowdy

        Consistent holes help a lot

  45. rowdy

    Time for wilson to shine!

    • JT

      you nailed it

    • rowdy


  46. Ishmael

    These are two very good teams.

    Not much between them at all.

    • Volume12

      Great point. There really isn’t much separation is there?

      We could be looking at this years SB.

      • Ishmael


        It’s a weak year, even the top teams have flaws. Think good coaching is going to be the really difference maker down the stretch, and it’s hard to argue that Belichick and Carroll aren’t the top two.

        Quickly on the Hawks though, this is pretty much what we imagined the offence to be at the start of the season right? The run game isn’t as dominant as we’d like, but it’s effective. And then we’re getting chunk plays out of the passing game, Lockett and Graham showing up well there. A strong running game and explosive passing game sounds like Carroll’s dream to me.

  47. JT

    Very odd for NE to only send 2 or 3 rushers that whole drive, not that I’m complaining πŸ™‚

    For a team known for their amazing gameplans, they didn’t get the memo – give Russ a squeaky clean pocket and there’s no stopping us.

  48. rowdy

    Add one more td drive against the hawks that was extended by a bs call

    • Volume12

      Right? Didn’t Cannon push Kam to the ground?

      • rowdy

        Pushed him in the back. Penalty should of been on him

        • Ukhawk

          Game changer, think Brady was play acting and not sure if Kam touched him

  49. rowdy

    Shouldn’t that of been a low hit on wilson like it was on brady?

  50. Volume12

    Brady man. 3rd & 25. Are you kidding me?

    I wonder how different this game is with Bennett in there.

  51. rowdy


    • Volume12

      No doubt about it. You can see the technique starting to come on.

      Not only is Bennett one of the 5 best D-lineman in the game and vital to what we do, and a low key note, who better for Clark to learn from?

      • Trevor

        You are right Vol and the injury to Bennett is giving him added playing time to really start to shine. When Bennett gets back they are a true 3 headed monster.

  52. Trevor

    I would up our top #3 pass rushers Bennett, Avril and Clark up against any 3 in the league.

    Clark is becoming a Beast!

  53. Volume12

    Prosise has special potential. What a weapon. Him and Rawls could be dynamite. Hope so, then they’d just need a short yardage specialist.

    That’s a TD too.

    • rowdy

      How did they call blounts first td a td but not that one?

  54. Trevor

    George Fant is the new LT for the Seahawks IMO. Let this kid play and develop. When Sowell comes back let him and Gilliam battle for RT.

    • Hawktalker

      Forget that. Let Sowell have it.

  55. Ukhawk

    Like the grit but red zone is the next thing to work on getting better

    • Volume12

      For sure. What are we 2 for 6? We need Rawls down there.

  56. Kyle

    So I’ve been liking the play calling but come on, where the hell is jimmy when on the 5 yard line? Just ridiculous

    • rowdy

      How bout call a play that has a chance to make it in the endzone

  57. Volume12

    Dammit! That fumble was ours!

    • rowdy

      That one sure is

      • Volume12


  58. JT


  59. Volume12

    Did PC just get his version of Reggie Bush in Prosise?

    • Volume12

      C-Mike’s feet move too fast for his brain to process.

    • Ishmael

      Man he looks pretty good doesn’t he? Still learning how to be a running back, but what a weapon to have in the backfield.

      • rowdy

        The moves he makes in a phone booth can’t be taught

      • Volume12

        I’m so exciter for Prosise. Wow.

        CHAWK my man, great call on this kid. Going back to like week 3 of the CFB season last year.

        I played HS ball with a back just like C-mike. Explosive, freak athlete, easy speed, but his feet moved faster than his mind.

        • Volume12

          Of course, he was nowhere near as talented, but ya get my point.

  60. KD

    Christine Michael fell down again

  61. rowdy

    Wilson is playing better then ever!

    • Volume12

      He’s on ?

  62. Ishmael

    Kam makes SUCH a difference. The people who are happy to trade him/let him go are totally cooked IMO.

  63. Ukhawk

    I’d love to see just one throw to Graham in the red zone

  64. Ishmael

    Didn’t work, but love going for 2 there. Play to win!

  65. Forrest

    Win or not, this has been the game of the year!!

  66. rowdy

    How do they not call that pick play?

  67. Volume12

    Why was Steven Terrell on him? Or better yet, why is he in the game at this point?

  68. Trevor

    You never want to overreact to one game but Prosise looks like Lavon Bell 2.0 tonight. What a weapon he is going to be if he can stay healthy.

    • Volume12

      Oh my gawd! I’ve never been this excited for a RB since we traded for BeastMode.

      This kid has special written all over him.

  69. Trevor

    Kam has had a big game tonight.

    • Volume12

      Let’s cut him to save dollars.

      Jimmy too. Because it wasn’t like BB had him bracketed all night.

  70. Volume12

    What a goal line stand.

    We just shocked the world boys!

    • rowdy

      All week long this game looked like a loss cause. Those are the games we pull out. Great win!

  71. Ishmael


    What a stand!

    That’s very close to the best win of the PC era. No one gave the boys any chance, but they showed up when it mattered. Looking forward to the Bill Simmons sulk tomorrow

    • Volume12

      Colin Cowherd was the only talking head that gave us a chance.

  72. JT

    Flying cross country on a short week? NE coming off a bye? Missing our top defensive lineman? Media calling for a blowout?

    Don’t matter, we get W’s. Fantastic win

    Go Hawks

  73. Forrest

    Game of the year, and a turning point for the Hawks!!! *slow clapping till my palms bleed*

  74. The Hawk is Howling

    I’ve been waiting for Prosise to get some snaps and he showed up big time. Kam made his presence felt on many a play old school LOB style! Wow this win makes up for the Husky’s loss a bit.

    Go HAWKS!

  75. Ukhawk

    Rob. Some thoughts for your recap:
    -Best rushing game by far
    -Most balanced win of the season in all phases
    -NFL should love this tight game and the result for ratings
    -Gritty win on a short week, travelling and playing a bye week team
    -Pats overrated? They seemed a bit lackadaisical tonight.
    -Offense needs red zone work (JG?) and defence really misses Bennett on defending the edge

    • Ukhawk

      -Hawks go 2nd spot in NFC playoff race

  76. Rad man


    What do you think of Samaje Perine, and De’veon Smith? Both RBs in that 5’11 230 range that should be available mid rounds. The seem like physical runners with good instincts and fundamentals. Of course they lack that breakaway speed.

    • Rad man

      I meant to include Royce Freeman in there as well. Roughly same size.

      • Rob Staton

        Not a big fan of Freeman’s. Very finesse, doesn’t use his size (not a power back). Good athlete for the frame but not convinced he’s a Seahawk.

    • Rob Staton

      Perine is injured too often. That worries me. His play is good but he never seems to be healthy. Whenever I’ve watched Michigan Smith hasn’t really stood out.

      • Rad man

        got it. thanks. I’m just going through some size parameters is all, with no scouting. I see PFF really liked Freeman last year. I think he’s probably regressed a bit.

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