Seahawks sign Gerald Everett, trade for Gabe Jackson

Deal #1 — Gerald Everett

There was plenty of talk about the Seahawks being in the tight end market and so it proved.

Gerald Everett has a history with offensive coordinator Shane Waldron. However, as a former second round pick he didn’t really deliver for the Rams. He never had more than the 417 yards he recorded in 2020 and he’s never had more than three touchdowns in a season. Last year, he scored once in 16 games.

Here’s his stat line:

2017 — 244 yards, two touchdowns
2018 — 320 yards, three touchdowns
2019 — 408 yards, two touchdowns
2020 — 417 yards, one touchdown

A $6m contract is quite the commitment for that level of production.

It’s similar to the investment Seattle made in Greg Olsen a year ago. They received very little bang for their buck — they’ll need to do much more to justify this signing.

The hope will be that Waldron’s experience with Everett will help. Yet, as noted, it never really happened for him in LA.

The Seahawks have a long history of splurging on tight ends under Pete Carroll. They spent big money on Zach Miller in 2011, a signing that worked out. After that — the investment in Jimmy Graham, Ed Dickson and Olsen hasn’t produced results.

It’s not a cheap contract for Everett. Along with the signing of Ahkello Witherspoon and the extension for Poona Ford — they’ve now pretty much spent all of their available cap space.

There aren’t a ton of options in the draft but there are prospects who fit Seattle’s penchant for strong agility testing. Brevin Jordan ran a 4.21 short shuttle at 250lbs at SPARQ. Tommy Tremble — a fearsome run blocker — ran a 4.20. Pat Freiermuth (4.44) and Tre McKitty (4.13) also excelled and have plenty to offer.

All four, if drafted outside of the first round, would’ve cost no more than $1.5m this year. That’s the salary of the #33 overall pick. If they were drafted in the same range as Damien Lewis, they’d be on $800,000.

That level of salary is a little easier to stomach if you continue to struggle to find ways to feature your tight ends in the passing game.

This is the problem with taking yourself out of the draft. So far, the Seahawks remain with only one pick in the first three rounds (#56). It’s hard to imagine that’ll stay the same — especially in a year when cheap talent is so important.

The assumption is that the Seahawks have been biding their time in free agency, seeking value. In reality, $6m for one year of Gerald Everett doesn’t seem to be that cheap at all.

They’ll hope he can become a legit #3 target and provide quickness and mismatch ability. Watching his mic’d up videos — he also seems committed, passionate and a leader.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens to the receiver market. Were the Seahawks better off paying Everett $6m for one year — or would they be better going after the likes of Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller or JuJu Smith-Schuster on a longer term basis with a low year-one cap hit?

Curtis Samuel has just agreed a three-year, $34.5m contract in Washington. That might suggest it’ll be a little too rich still.

But the Seahawks don’t have a great track record with tight ends and they’ve made quite a big commitment to Everett.

Deal #2 — Gabe Jackson

The deal is for Seattle’s fifth rounder. The Seahawks only had four picks in the 2021 draft. That’s now down to three.

I think Gabe Jackson’s reputation is better than his recent performance level. He’s seemingly been on the brink with the Raiders for a while and it was announced on March 3rd that he was going to be released.

However, a market seemed to emerge and now Las Vegas — as they did with Rodney Hudson — have been able to trade him instead.

PFF graded Jackson at 63.7 in 2020 — the 40th best guard in the league. The year before he was given a 61.8 grade.

My fear, expressed prior to this signing, is that he’s well past his best. Formerly one of the best guards in the league — I’m not sure he’s anywhere close to that level as he approaches 30.

He’s also very expensive. His base salary is $9.35m this year — about the same as Jamal Adams. Frankly — he’s already ripe to be a cap cut down the line if the competition is close.

For that reason I think using #56 on a guard remains realistic. Especially given the quality on the interior line expected to be available in that range.

Spending over $15m on Everett and Jackson is quite the commitment. Is it the best use of resources? That question needs to be asked — while acknowledging they have at least addressed two needs.

With only three draft picks — a trade of some description seems almost inevitable at this point. Fans on twitter are clamouring for Jarran Reed — but what exactly are you fielding on the D-line if you do that? And how much are you getting in return for a defensive tackle who turns 29 this year?

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  1. Roy Batty

    Well, it’s a start…

    • Benjamin Davis

      The question i ask myself is could we get a starter worthy of Gabe Jackson in the 5th Rd. Not highly likely.

      • Rob Staton

        The problem is, if you’d taken that approach in 2010 and 2011 you wouldn’t have Kam or Sherm.

        A year ago we’d have said the same about Quinton Dunbar.

        • Benjamin Davis

          Obviously….but if wishes were fishes we wouldn’t be in this situation, exactly.

      • Chris

        That’s not the question to ask. The biggest part of his opportunity cost is the money, not the pick.

  2. JLemere

    So out of 17 million the Seahawks have, they have potentially spent about 14 depending on the structure of Everett’s contract.

    • Sea Mode

      You mean Poona’s?

      • JLemere

        I believe Poona’s cap hit will be roughly 4.4 mil for this year, but I don’t know the specifics of the incentives which could increase or decrease and now with Gabe Jackson and his 9.6 million cap hit, Seattle is in the red and have to restructure or cut/trade someone.

  3. Volume12

    Love this move.

    Your getting a weapon for Russ (presumably), he’s young, coming off career highs in yards & receptions, and gives our new OC 3 TEs to run some 12 personnel w/.

    • pdway

      well – he’s 26, and he always looked good against us – – definitely an upgrade athletically at the position for us.

      wouldn’t say it was our most important hole to fill, but I’m good with it.

      can we pretty please sign a pass-rusher now?

    • charlietheunicorn

      Agree. Not sexy, but goods use of money… instead of last year.. at TE.

    • Peter

      Hope it works. Been thinking lately about how Seattle spends big and never really uses TE’s. Including Graham

      • Jamho3

        @Peter SEA does use the TE check the #’s of SEA’s targets to TE’s and then the production of other teams. We’re not that bad.

        • Rob Staton

          It feels pretty bad

        • Peter

          Maybe I sure restructure this relative to cost then. Because they spend decently big, take up lots of roster space and it’s clear to me the ball flows to WR’s. I hope Waldron is more creative with TE’s but seattle has passed catching TE’s and could really use a third receiver and definitely use RB(s) and I think 6 mil could have gone to either. I’m happy to be wrong.

  4. Rahul Remany

    Did we just get an actual quality tight end or am I mistaken? Hes really good, wait until we get him running

  5. Burner

    Coach Waldron gotta be happy with that.

    How much cap we got left now? 🙂

    • Sea Mode

      Well, we started out with $17m after cutting Dunlap. Sooo…

      Witherspoon: $4m
      Poona: $7m (?)
      Everett: $6m

      = $0

      • Hoggs41

        Not sure yet but it appears as if Poona might be around $3 for his first year cap hit.

  6. Alex Potts

    I hate this signing. He’s not a star. He’s an average TE. Stop filling the roster with average players. Go get someone that is going to make an impact and fill the back end of the roster with rookies and cheap Minimum vets. This doesn’t move the needle.

    If you talk to Rams fans, they don’t like him. He had a ton of drops. Oh and the 49ers fans are happy about us picking up Akhello Witherspoon. We don’t do anything right anymore. I’ve got very little faith in John and Pete at this point.

    • Brandon

      All of a sudden Pete and John don’t know what’s up!? Please

      • SeaTown

        Actually they haven’t known what’s up for about 5 years now.

        • dylanlep


  7. Henry Taylor

    Love the value, feel like we’re running low on cash to fill more pressing needs. Hopefully a Russ restructure (and statement of commitment to the franchise) is coming to assist with that.

  8. Ed

    A swing and a miss. Strike 100, you’re out. Or for soccer fans, it’s 0-100 in penalty kicks. How about some pass rushers, oline, rb, db etc…………….. Pete, if you want the Hawks to stink, go for it. Let the boat sink man. Plugging holes with tape is only going to prolong the process of the ship sinking. Trade Wilson, Adams, Wagner and restart. Get Minshew and Mills as your two QB, Williams as your RB and Hernandez and Lewis to road grade. Done, Rob becomes GM of the year.

  9. JJ

    Like the pick up, but these 1 year deals don’t seem ideal for cap.

  10. charlietheunicorn

    Now bring in the WR Godwin from the 49ers on a cheap deal… done adding for today.

  11. pdway

    there is still time to save this off-season…..Dunlap, Clowney, Andrews, let’s get some voidable years on the books…..

  12. Bankhawk

    Rob; guys, how does the ‘value aspect of this deal read to you? I often shy away from expressing strong opinions on individual players when I don’t intimately know their numbers, recent injury history, last year or two’s production, but being from the division, Everett at least has the name recognition for me and I do know I’ve seen him on the field to good effect.
    He will, of course, have an inside track on scheme familiarity in having worked with Waldron, and IIRC, $6 mill is a savings over Olsen last year. Any supplemental data you can feed me? Rating as a receiver? As a blocker? Seems like the TE room is at least ‘back to even’.
    But will it help to please Russ?

    • Rob Staton

      I would’ve been comfortable at $3m

      Not $6m

      • Scot04

        6M does feel a bit high.

  13. Hoggs41

    Love the signing but dont love its only one year to lower the cap hit.

  14. Trevor

    Has ownership told PC/JS they can only sign free agents to 1-2 year deals? That all we have seen for years now. Who was the last free agent signed to deal more than 2 years? I mean free agent not an extension.

    • Rob Staton


      Ownership isn’t telling Pete anything

      This is just players wanting to reach the market again next year

  15. Bankhawk

    I’m a slow typer_looks as if V-12 beat me to an answer before I could get the Qs in! 😉

  16. Rad_man


    Not sure why this is such a high priority and for 6M. Is he that much better than what’s on the roster now? Not seeing it. Whatever.

    • pdway

      from a quick watch of his ’20/’21 highlights – he looks a lot faster/explosive than any of the TE’s we had out there last year – –

      • Rad_man

        many times more expensive. a luxury spend for a team thin at other places. Seems dumb.

  17. pdway

    Curtis Samuel goes to Washington, per Schefter

    • Sea Mode

      First year cap hit could be super low, but probably not worth it for a WR3.

      Adam Schefter

      Former Panthers’ WR Curtis Samuel is signing a three-year, $34.5 million deal with Washington, per source.

      • Volume12

        I like what DC has done.

        • Volume12

          Although those #’s are crazy high now that I look at it lol.

          • Sea Mode

            A bit rich, yes, but they have the space to spend and I think he’s a good fit for them. Takes some attention off of McLaurin, which was desperately needed. Worked in college, right…? 😁

            • Sea Mode

              Terry McLaurin

              We really talked about this in the dorms freshman year🔥

  18. Sea Mode

    “Up to 7”. I assume we had to eek out New England in a bidding war… 😉

    Ian Rapoport

    Gerald Everett’s Seahawks deal is worth up to $7M, source said, with $6M guaranteed.

    Also, what in the world is this supposed to mean???

    Jeremy Fowler

    Gerald Everett signing is example of Seattle showing it hears Russell Wilson’s frustrations. Seahawks got very close to signing OG Kevin Zeitler and are exploring other established guard options (Gabe Jackson, Trai Turner, more) — signs, for now, that the relationship can mend

    • Volume12

      Give me Gabe Jackson & grab an interior OL w/ that 2nd rounder.

      • Rob Staton

        I don’t get the Gabe Jackson love

        • Dan Riggs

          Well look, you can’t complain about all of these holes and Seattle doing nothing in free agency, etc and then not acknowledge that Jackson was one of the best remaining options for them. His rankings in pass protection look pretty good. Sucks to lose a draft pick…but this guy is a starter. And he will be theirs for 2 years. No brainer.

          2020: 19th out of 68
          2019: 14th out of 67
          2018: 19th out of 65
          2017: 19th out of 68
          2016: 14th out of 66
          2015: 8th out of 70
          2014: 8th out of 66

          • Rob Staton

            1. I didn’t complain about the Seahawks doing nothing in free agency. I raised issue with their overall plan and direction as a team. How they’ve handled the Wilson situation, the fact they have no cap room but had so far refused to create more, the abandonment of the 2021 draft (which took a new step on Wednesday). Now I would add dipping out of the ‘first wave’ when the real quality was available at guard, only to end up trading a pick for a guy about to be cut and be on the hook to pay him $9m a year. These are all fair points that are not answered by a trade for Gabe Jackson.

            2. My personal opinion is Jackson is past his best. Being the 19th best pass protector at guard in 2020 isn’t really anything to write home about is it? For $9m a year. I would say he’s worth about $3-4m. His run blocking grade was terrible too and his overall grade last season was 40th best guard.

            I know people are desperate for positivity at the moment after an inauspicious start to free agency and the tiresome nature of the Wilson saga. But I’m not going to feign excitement just because they’ve done something.

        • SeattleLifer

          An aged vet with declining skills for too much money? Yeah i don’t like it at all and it’s so typical of Pete and John – refuse to pay for a good player that is’nt too old and then over pay for lesser/older guys, and in this case probably again with some fear(of needing to appease Russ)thrown in just to make sure we make a poor decision/signing. Oh and yeah we had to give up a 5th rounder out of our four whole draft pick surplus. Yeesh

      • CHaquesFan

        Hey; you got Gabe Jackson!

      • Shadow

        Next time ask for money! 🙂

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Just me personally but I’d rather spend the $7 million on Zeitler, and I bet Wilson does too. But Everett for up to $7 million isn’t a bad signing.

    • TomLPDX

      Just click-bait. Moving along…

    • Lewis

      It means nothing. Not like they are going to leave obvious holes in the roster unfilled to sort the qb seeking weapons. And not exactly a superstar signing (though possibly a solid one, not dissing the signing).

    • Rob Staton

      Apparently missing out on all the best OL and signing a tight end with crap stats is a sign that the Seahawks hear Wilson’s concerns.

      IMO — does it bollocks

      • SeattleLifer

        You left out overpaying for both(i know you said it earlier – just too further the point..). But seriously this is exactly the type of stuff i expected from them. I am almost numb to it at this point, but it is just poor form at the best.

  19. charlietheunicorn

    One of the best article titles…..

    “Seahawks and Bears met in Fargo; trade talks thrown in the wood chipper”

  20. Volume12

    Would Seattle trade J Reed for a late 2nd-early 3rd? His cap hit is insanely high. They need him, but damn.

    Miami has 2 picks in that range

    • Trevor

      I would make that deal in a blink.

      That the problem when you sign guys to 1-2 year deals you can play work the cap # at all.

    • Rob Staton

      There is no way you’re getting that for Jarran Reed

      And what’s the plan then?

      Start an even worse DL than a year ago?

    • Sea Mode

      I think they should extend him. They need him too much and I think he has proven he can be an above average complimentary piece if paired with an edge rusher (please go sign Dunlap…can’t believe we weren’t in for Reddick at just $8m… 12.5 sacks and 5th-highest pressure rate last year)

      • CHaquesFan

        I was wary on Reddick, showing out only in your contract year is suspicious.

        • Rob Staton

          It was the first year he started at end

  21. pdway

    His production basically mirrors that of Jonnu Smith – who just signed for more than double this salary. Smith one year younger.

  22. Denver Hawker

    Hawks used to really value comp picks and tailor free agency to maximize these. They are much more focused on 1 and 2 year deals which has created large free agent classes on the roster. They’ve also gone into the draft picks org very little draft stock needing to trade a top player to get picks.

    This roster building philosophy makes no sense at all. I’ve tried to rationalize it and sort it out, but can’t find the benefit at all.

    Need picks, need to hit on drafting quality starters.

    • Trevor

      It has to be mandated by ownership.

      • Trevor

        I mean no long term deals.

      • Rob Staton

        It really isn’t

        • Trevor

          Makes no sense then just a constant churn of JAGs and no cap flexibility. When was the last time they signed a free agent to a long term deal?

      • Denver Hawker

        It’s not a bad strategy to avoid cap he’ll. But too guys want longer deals. They only give those to “company men”, the high is fine if they’ve developed top players. They just haven’t done that lately. What’s worse is they’ve traded draft capital away and limited the ability to draft future “company men”.

        A bunch of mercenaries on 1 or 2 year deals trying to boost their stock doesn’t build culture. The constant roster churning and new faces in the locker room is not the culture players want to stay in.

  23. Zxvo3

    If they see Adams as the future in the defense then it’s time for Bobby Wagner to go. It will free up cap space and you might get a nice mid round pick out of it.

    • Rob Staton

      One needs to go

      • CaptainJack

        Or J Reed honestly. Hot and cold player.

      • Trevor

        Both need to go IMO.

        • Peter Jakubisin

          In a different year maybe on Reed. But no money and no picks and a guy under contract who might net a fourth? I don’t love Reed but I think he has to stay for now. Adam’s for a 2 and 4 and he’s out the door for me. Just cause Seattle over bid on draft picks doesn’t mean someone else will.

      • Zxvo3

        Do you think the silence about Adams’ contract could mean something?

        • Rob Staton

          I don’t think so but I hope so

          • Hoggs41

            I wouldnt ming trading Wagner and Adams and resign KJ. Id actually prefer it.

  24. CaptainJack

    Unless Waldron drastically changes the offensive tight end usage… this is a waste of money.

    • CaptainJack

      Everett is a receiving tight end more than a blocker. We have Dissly and Parkinson has great hands. Feels like a waste.

    • Sea Mode

      Is he $3m better than Hollister? Doubtful.

      • dcd2

        I’m not sure about that. I think he’s twice as valuable as Hollister. Unfortunately I think they are both being paid about twice as much as they should.

        • Peter

          Nailed it

    • John_s

      This is mostly on Russ. When Jimmy Graham was here, Russ made a concerted effort to get his BFF Graham the ball.

      Will Dissly started 2018 and 2019 off hot then got hurt but then Russ did look Hollisters way in 2019 (avg 5 targets a game)

      If Waldron is running Shannahans offense, Dissly and Everett should be open. Everett was also used a lot on TE screens

  25. Blitzy the Clown

    Seahawks trade a 2021 pick to Las Vegas for Gabe Jackson

    • Blitzy the Clown

      They could’ve signed Zeitler for less money and no draft pick. But hey what do I know

      • John_s

        Zietler wasn’t coming here. It was Baltimore all the way after Zietler had a conversation with Marshall Yanda

        • Pran

          If Hawks are competing for SB, FAs will prefer Hawks just like Zietler preferred Ravens.

          • Scot04

            I’m sure if the Seahawks offer Zeitler the 9M they’re gonna pay big Gabe he’d have signed in a heartbeat over Baltimore. Money talks

  26. Denver Hawker

    Gave Jackson pff 63.7…

    Hope it was a conditional 7th

    • CaptainJack

      Yup, this move doesn’t do it for me.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Nope it’s a 5th round pick. WTF man? Why pass on Zeitler for less money and no draft pick?

      • CaptainJack

        They were too busy messing around with the Russ trade. This is what happens with a lack of leadership and vision. You get caught with your pants down.

    • Volume12

      0 sacks allowed to according to PFF

      • Sea Mode

        40th out of 80 per PFF. Bang average.

        • DC

          Bang average is a big step up!

          Our 5th round picks always turn up gold. We’re good.

      • Hoggs41

        Cant assume Zeitler wanted to be here. Personally I would have rather had Trai Turner.

        • Tomas

          … or a young Tina Turner, for the morale boost.

      • Denver Hawker

        He’s apparently pretty good in pass blocking, not a great run blocker. Raiders pulled him and had success. Solari and Waldren must see something there.

        • Sea Mode

          Raiders were about to cut him…

          • Scot04

            They were also going to cut their Center who got them a 3rd. Raiders did well on both trades

  27. CaptainJack

    OK, I am glad to see SOME kind of moves now.

    But… giving up draft picks at this point for a guard… when elite guards were signed at affordable rates yesterday? It is sickening to me.

    • bmseattle

      And this is a great draft for guards.

      • Volume12

        Can they not draft 1 now or something?

        • Sea Mode

          With only 3 picks and after dumping $10m of their precious little cap space on one? Seems unlikely. Maybe a Center though.

        • CaptainJack

          No, they will all be off the board by the time seattle picks. Especially if your prediction about them trading down is correct.

      • Hoggs41

        Jackson might play right guard and Lewis play center which could still open up LG for the draft.

        • Rob Staton

          No thanks

        • Sea Mode

          I fear that may well be their plan.

        • HawkFanGA

          I think Jackson will be our new LG. This was his college position at Mississippi State.

  28. Hawk Mock

    Well, I don’t agree with these moves but if you’re going to try to make Russ happy, go all in and get Fournette and one of Juju or A Brown

    • CaptainJack

      Imagine signing Antonio Brown after the media moral panic earlier this season. Also it was interesting that the Buccs didn’t get any pushback for winning the Superbowl with Brown on the team…

    • TomLPDX

      Fournette is NOT all-in. He isn’t as good as Chris as far as I’m concerned. Yeah, he did ok in the playoffs last year but during the regular season…JAG.

  29. Volume12

    There’s the Gabe Jackson move

    • CaptainJack

      Yuck, terrible, poor value… panic move for an over-the-hill player. Just terrible.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        It’s not terrible, and Jackson isn’t over the hill. He’s only 29 ffs. But it’s a head scratcher that they wouldn’t just sign Zeitler for less and not give up a draft pick. Especially since I think he’s the better OG.

        • pdway

          sounds like we tried on Zeitler, no? Got beat out by another team.

          • Blitzy the Clown

            It’s all about money. And Zeitler signed for $7.5 million per year. Seattle will pay $9.5 million to Jackson in 2021 and 2022. You’re telling me Zeitler would’ve turned down $8 or $8.5 million from Seattle? They’d have saved some money and they’d still have 25% of the draft picks they started the offseason with.

    • Volume12

      Good. A 5th rounder will be so hard to get back. Seattle is moving off that 2. Bank on it.

      • CaptainJack

        tons of teams are eager to trade back up into the end of round 2… 😐

        • Volume12

          Yeah, Seattle has never made any moves in that range. There was only 5 trades there last year.

      • Sea Mode

        Apparently they might save some time and money and just skip the draft all together this year…

        Anyways, I smell some move coming to recoup picks. Hopefully Jamal Adams, or maybe Russ. But there’s no way they go into it with just 3 picks. Last time they were in this situation, they traded away Frank Clark. Something similar will happen again IMO.

        • Volume12

          I agree. There’s no way they pick 3 times.

      • Peter

        I really hope they don’t move off that 2. What’s the point? A late third and a late fifth?

  30. Sea Mode

    Missed time in each season 2017-2019, but started all 16 last year.

    PFF breakdown:

    Turns 30 in July. Costs $10m this year and $10m next.

    Really not sure about this one. I guess they wanted experience on the OL.

    • Hoggs41

      They could look to rework his deal. Would have rather traded for Hudson though.

      • BC_Hawk

        That would be my guess Hoggs; he has no guaranteed money left. My guess, he’ll sign something along the lines of Zeitler over 3 years with guaranteed $; probably almost nothing on 2021 in base

    • Hebegbs

      I don’t really get the whole let’s trade Russ to get back in the draft this year. Chicago would sell the whole farm to get him or any top 10 QB. Seahawks have sucked drafting lately why is anybody confident a haul of picks works out? I want more picks too but man I’m not confident they can draft any more. Then what at QB? Darnold? Really?

      The organization as a whole just feels dysfunctional at best. They failed to reload the trenches on the D line and gave up way too much for Adams to try and solve a major deficiency. Now their first biggest signing is for a TE who is pretty average and trade another pic (5th) for an expensive guard when the draft has a lot of great guards for 800k/year rookie contract?

      I just don’t get why the focus isn’t improving the trenches on both sides of the ball. Is Gabe an immediate upgrade I guess? I really don’t know but I doubt it quite frankly. Having Wags and Adams is great, love their competitive spirit but if you have no horses on the line they get washed out anyway. Wasted basically. Isn’t this football 101?

      Rob is right now, today, more than ever. WTF is the plan here? The West just keeps getting better by the hour while the Hawks are floundering. I don’t understand what Pete and John are doing.

  31. Scot04

    Looks like a 5th for gabe

    • pdway

      I know we are incredibly short on picks this year, but getting a plug-and-play starter in the 5th round is pretty rare, and in a normal year, we wouldn’t sweat that trade value at all.

      • Sea Mode

        He’s the 12th highest paid Guard in the league, though. When you get one in the draft, you pay pennies compared to that.

        • pdway

          that’s true – but hopefully he’s a decent level up from someone you’d pick in the 5th round.

          And if you mean the 2nd round pick, that’s fair, but of course we’re now free to use that on another need.

  32. Chase

    Up to 6 mil… anyone know the guaranteed number?

    • Hoggs41


  33. Jordan E

    Love that the Hawks are making moves now. Not fully sold on them but they do appear to be an improvement over last years moves.

  34. Hoggs41

    Going to have to do something cap space wise to fit these 4 deals under the cap.

  35. Jamho3

    Jimmy Graham did work out.

    SEA threw the ball 63% as often as the Saints and Jimmy’s production in SEA was 63% of what it was in NOLA.

    You can check for yourselves but just check the #’s of targets that Kamara, Thomas and Graham got.

    Crazy #’s

    • Rob Staton

      Jimmy Graham was far from a disaster but I’d hardly say that trade ‘worked out’

      • Mike

        Yeah trading a good LT for a TE is never gonna be a good trade. Doesn’t matter if its Kelce/Gronk/etc. its just bad value.

        • dcd2

          Pretty sure it was our Center (Unger) and a #1 for Graham and a mid-rounder.

          Also, Kelce has insane value. He’s probably the best TE in the history of the NFL.

  36. BruceN

    Would’ve preferred Zeitler instead of Jackson. But I guess at this point he would do. Wasn’t he making $10M for this year and that’s why rumored to get cut?
    The good news, last year he had his lowest pass blocking grade of his career from PFF @ 70. Bad news, he had 26 total pressures allowed (good news, no sacks).

    If we’re going to wait until day 3 of the FA period and miss on the better players we should at least be getting better values. These moves are not exactly screaming values. Oh well.

    • JC3

      This management is a joke.
      They could sign a top tier FA for that kind of money not an aging one year rental for close to 10 mils.

    • SeattleLifer

      Bad news 26 pressures allowed – throw in the fact that he’ll be facing NFC west d-lines and has a QB behind him who loves yo hold onto the ball forever and i could see the pressures going up along with some sacks as well.

      For more bad news his run blocking per PFF has been flat our poor for years and even though he turns 30 this season his play has been on the decline for the past few years. Add in an almost 10 million dollar salary, giving up one of our 4 picks(and a fifth rounder at that for a guy who was going to get cut) and i’m hard pressed to see the good in this signing when i look at it in it’s entirety.

  37. Shadow

    I was an English major so somebody check my math on this, but Witherspoon, Poona, Everett, and now Jackson put us over the cap, right? So we have to make some sort of move before the trade can become official? A restructure? A cut?

    • king.

      They are over the cap:

      As of this writing that is before Everett’s deal is added.

      As noted many times, Seattle is currently about out of draft capital. Trading down seems likely because Seattle is going to need warm bodies, but it’s harder to produce value with only one pick in the top 100.

      1. Is Adams going to play out his fifth year without chirping?
      2. Is the CB room really done?
      3. Center is presumably not addressed.
      4. Are they really rolling with the current collection of DEs, RBs, and WRs?

      I am probably more cynical than anyone regarding Pete’s vision and execution, but there has to be another shoe about to drop, right?

      They can’t possibly be done. Even restructures will only take them so far. Trades and cuts (if there are any candidates) create more holes.

      I don’t see how Adams is still on the team next year, from a logical standpoint, but I will be shocked if he isn’t given a big extension. Where is that money coming from?

  38. charlietheunicorn

    Adam Schefter
    The compensation from Seattle to Vegas for Gabe Jackson is a 2021 fifth-round pick, per source.


  39. Mike

    So Jamal has to be getting traded now right?
    3 draft picks without a first. Take a frank clark trade and move on

    • Sea Mode

      Indeed, either Adams or Russ.

    • Mike

      Just saw your updated thoughts on gave Jackson trade.

      A jarran reed trade probably wouldn’t return much though right? Like at very best a third round pick?

    • Big Mike

      It sure seems like a sign that someone is getting traded. Wish it was Adams, guessing it’s someone else.

      • Mike

        I agree with you. I just don’t know whose worth a lot of draft compensation that makes sense besides russ or Jamal. Maybe Tyler Lockett is worth something, but then there is another major hole so idk.

  40. Hughz

    Rob or those who know. Do teams now have an entire year to spend and restructure contracts to get below the cap?

    • Rob Staton

      I think so, yes

  41. Billy

    I like both these signings a lot…..both good pick ups! Everett was like the 4 or 5 option in LA, behind Kupp, woods, higher, Reynolds! So I could really see an uptick in his performance! Jackson is better than what we had all year at left guard, it said on one site he played over 1000 snaps without a sack, isn’t that what we want?

    • MyChestIsBeastMode

      Yes. Yes, it is what we want.

      We also want a RB, DE (2 please), one of those sexy WRs that are still available, another CB, and some more OL competition.

  42. Sea Mode

    Already almost $10m over the cap and we still have no RB, C, DE, or SAM… 😬

    • Chris A

      We are screwed

    • Troy Schubert

      How do we know that contract restructuring isn’t being done behind the scenes? Not everything has to get reported in the media or on twitter to be true.

      • Rob Staton

        Presumably it is, or a trade

        But it probably should’ve been done by now

  43. Big Mike

    I’d have rather kept Dunlap than made these 2 moves. Better use of cap dollars imo.

    • Hughz

      Ha. Just researched Gabe Jackson vs Aaron Donald. Apparently they got into a scuffle in the 2019 preseason. Going to be a battle twice this year.

  44. Rob Staton

    I just can’t excited about Gabe Jackson for +$9m plus the loss of another draft pick

    I’m getting hammer on twitter for not saying it’s a home run

    If they get back in the draft by trading someone significant (Adams) and continue to add — making sure the pass rush in particular doesn’t suck — then I’m willing to revise my opinion

    But right now I’m still a bit unsure about these moves

    • BobbyK

      I just don’t understand how they can go into the draft with only two draft picks. We all know that late pick in the 7th round really doesn’t count – that’s basically UFA players who generally don’t make the team at that point. Or a Sullivan pick from last year.

      At least if they had a 1st round pick only… they could maneuver down to add more picks easier, but when your first pick isn’t until 56 – that’s terrible. They need more than a 2 and a 4 in this draft.

      • Rob Staton


    • Sea Mode

      Same here, although I’m 99% sure now that a big trade is coming. This is like the Frank Clark situation all over again where they will be desperate for picks.

      I don’t dislike the players as such, but at about half their cap hit. Jackson ranked 40/80 and is the 12th highest paid Guard, who hadn’t played a full season since 2016 prior to this past one and has declined each year per PFF. Plus, his natural position is RG, so a move either for him or Damien Lewis.

      Everett for twice the cost of Hollister. Who were we bidding against to secure his services. You would think the prospect of playing in a familiar scheme under Waldron would have helped sell him at a lower cost. Who knows.

      Once again, however, they have chosen to pay significant money in FA to two of the strongest positions in the draft. Watch them sign a WR next…

    • lil’stink

      Have to say I completely agree with you on this one, Rob. I liked him a lot early in his career. Looked like he could be a pro-bowl quality player. But he seems to be past his prime, and that $9 million cap hit is no joke.

      I never get too excited about off-season moves (other than ones like the Avril/Bennett moves) as a lot can still happen. But this trade for Jackson… just seems like we are digging a bit of a hole on this one.

      I do like the Gerald Everett signing, though. I think he could be a great security blanket for Wilson.

    • CaptainJack

      unsure is a fair emotion.

      But I feel more strongly than unsure. I just don’t like either, especially viewing the other avenues we could have gone. We didn’t need to spend at TE. And we missed on the top guards while giving up a draft pick in the process. Again, getting burned for waiting around for too long. And we still don’t have a center. We pick at the bottom of round 2. No guarantee we’ll find a starting quality center there. We were very lucky to draft Lewis where we did.

      • Hoggs41

        Agree Jackson isnt a home run but he is still quality and an upgrade. Im hoping his deal gets reworked.

    • McZ

      Mayock just hang the hammer onto our FO. It’s perfectly clear, who won that trade. This franchise is in full desparation mode, and this is all to obvious for possible FA targets.

  45. Denver Hawker

    Given the short term commitments provided I’m not trying to read too much into these signings other than filling needs.

    However, the tea leaves are starting to point to support for Russ and the passing game. These are two pass oriented acquisitions.

    They’ll need cap space and need to restructure someone. They also need picks. Trading Wagner or Adams is much more obvious now. Trading Russ this year seems less likely.

  46. Scot04

    Gabe started of at LG didn’t he? Hoping so, then he could slide back into a position he’s played before. Hope I’m right on that.
    Lewis needs to stay where he is…

    • Sea Mode

      Bob Condotta

      As noted here, Jackson played first two years at left guard, then has been at right guard since. Hunch is he goes to LG with Seahawks leaving Lewis at RG. Now to find a center…

      • BobbyK

        Good. Like the idea of him at LG better than moving Lewis anywhere.

    • MyChestIsBeastMode

      Banging the drum for QM in the draft, or Ben Cleveland, or Landon Dickerson, but mostly for QM.

      • Hoggs41

        Jackson is listed at 335 which is LG size in our system. Im hoping he goes there as well.

  47. STTBM

    Well, they obviously think it’s important to get at least one guy who knows Waldron’s system. I’m ok with Everett, he killed us in 2019. But Gabe Jackson for a fifth? The guy hasn’t played well in years, as Rob noted above. I hope to God they aren’t paying him 9 million….

    Not the guy I’d have picked at G, and I’d rather spend big on a C like Hudson or Linsley. Not to mention the pass rush still needs a Dunlap….where’d the money for him coming from?

    They truly need to trade Adams. But Emperor Carrol is a God now…and he won’t trade his boy at a loss…sigh…

  48. BobbyK

    I want to like a move. I want to be happy and optimistic. But paying $6 million for an underachieving TE is not bargain shopping. He’d better be established and good for that money but he hasn’t been either yet.

    Trading a 5th round pick for a somewhat decent guard is okay, I guess. But if he’s making over $9 million this year – why not have offered more to Zeitler? I mean, Zeitler is better and he still would have made less money. And by trading a 5th round pick (that gives you access to young talent on rookie contracts), you’re losing a roster spot to a cheap contract for 4 years. That’s gold. But the Seahawks don’t do that and are forced to pay much more for marginal NFL players whose rookie contracts have expired. It makes no sense.

    Anyone know the plan for Damien Lewis? Are they thinking about him at Center? I mean, Zeitler had only ever been a career RG and they went after him (probably with the intent for Lewis to move to C or LG).

    • Rob Staton

      I want to like a move. I want to be happy and optimistic.


      I know twitter thinks I’m deliberately negative. I’m dying to say ‘I love this move’

      • BobbyK

        Yes. If they could get both Dolphins picks in the 2nd round this year for Adams and an additional pick next year, then I’d say I love something. I know some may say they traded a pair of ones (and change) for him, but I’m okay getting a pair of twos back because they did get one NFL season of use from him, too. I’d just really love to go into the draft with three 2nd round picks. Would love a RB, C or G, and a BPA. It would give them ammunition to also trade down to acquire more picks (cheap rookie contracts), which is what this team desperately needs.

        • Rob Staton

          If they could get both Dolphins picks in the 2nd round this year for Adams and an additional pick next year

          I would happily write 3000 words on why that was a stroke of genius

          • king.

            I’d have to rethink my entire opinion of Pete if this happens.

        • Blitzy the Clown

          Or just pick 18. I’d take that for Adams. Prefer it to 36 and 50.

          But really, either.

  49. Strategicdust

    This ship has run aground and Pete and John keep going faster. Trading one of your few draft choices for this years Luke Joeckel, signing another questionable TE contract ( do Pete BBC and Jon really understand value anymore?) and overpaying for a middling cornerback makes it seem clear. In no way should they be trying to deal a franchise quarterback like Wilson. My biggest concern now is they’ve painted themselves into a corner with both Wilson and the teams interested in him and will end up making a worse deal out of panic (or “hormones” if this is Pete).
    This is the way a franchise crumbles.

  50. Billy

    I figure they will go after the center from the rams too… his name Blythe? That will be next

  51. Sea Mode

    Well, at least someone likes our moves…

    Matt Miller

    Really like the two moves by Seattle today—signing TE Gerald Everett and trading for OG Gabe Jackson.

    • Hoggs41

      I like them. Just because they werent the exact players or dollars we want it doesnt mesn they arent good.

  52. Scot04

    I had same question about position for Gabe. I finally found out his 1st 2 seasons were at LG and he actually played better there. Otherwise i agree, not overly excited.
    Check out the PFF grades, especially for run blocking

    • Scot04

      Meant as reply for Bobbyk

    • BobbyK

      Thank you. I appreciate it.

      • Fudwamper

        Thanks for finding that out I was looking too. I really want them to get BAMF LG/C

  53. Sea Mode

    Grasping for straws of hope: Jackson’s decline did coincide with the return of Tom Cable to the Raiders (Jan 2018)…

    • BobbyK

      That’s funny and there could actually be something to it. lol

    • Denver Hawker

      I thought about the same thing.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      I’ll take it

    • STTBM

      Cable probably had him run blocking sideways, instead of downhill. He kept doing that here, trying to show how great a brain he had. It failed. No HC job for you, Tom! Hopefully Solaris will put him back at LG, and stop making him pull. Just smash-mouth, baby!

  54. Seahawk_Dan

    Does Pete still think he’s in college? Does he think that method is best? What I mean is, with the exception of your mega stars from the team, most other players at most get 1-2 year deals, and in college of course you’re only working with young players for so long, just a handful of years and he just seems to cycle through much of his roster in a similar matter. However the problem is the team doesn’t build much, and yes you can’t keep them all, but the Seattle Oline and Dline have gone though so many players and starters that you can lose track.

  55. DougK

    Just a couple data points if it hasn’t already been mentioned:

    1) It seems Gabe Jackson would be an upgrade over Iupati in pass blocking just looking at the 2020 PFF grades (Gabe 69.9 vs 62.3) but a downgrade in run blocking (Gabe 58.5 vs 71.5); zero sacks given up as mentioned above; and he’s only 29 yrs old so should still have some life left though Rob is correct he hasn’t played as well as he did few years back; was 73.7 overall in 2018 for example and even higher in prior years; The overall 2020 PFF grades are about equal with Gabe 63.7 as mentioned vs 65.1 for Iupati which is not a significant difference IMO. So it looks to me like they tried to improve the pass blocking and get a little younger.

    2) on Witherspoon, I saw a Richard Sherman tweet earlier today (lost it now) responding to Hawk fans’ calls for him to return to Seattle to join up with Witherspoon and he said… “y’all in good hands with DJ and Spoon. He will surprise you!” He obviously knows both of them from 49 days so I took that as a hopeful sign. And Bobby Wagner replied positively to that statement. Of course, Sherman is probably friends with them and may just be being supportive.

    3) If you haven’t heard Sherman’s Podcast with Chris Collinsworth, it’s worth a listen. This week they talk about the Russell situation a bit. Sherman’s view was that Pete’s way of winning (strong run game, and defense) was similar to how Tampa Bay won it all last year so he thought that was a good approach overall. And with Wilson’s high salary, the Seahawks have to take some salary shortcuts somewhere (pick your poison OL, DL, etc). Anyway, worth listening to get your own take on it.

    4) Everett had some high PFF grades of 76 in 2019 and 76.5 in 2018 so he’s played well at times though overshadowed by Higbee. He had a drop-off last year to 61.3 but missed a few games with injury so maybe wasn’t 100%??

    Nothing definitive with anything I’ve stated here but may be of interest to some.

    • BobbyK


    • Rob Staton

      4) Everett had some high PFF grades of 76 in 2019 and 76.5 in 2018 so he’s played well at times though overshadowed by Higbee. He had a drop-off last year to 61.3 but missed a few games with injury so maybe wasn’t 100%??

      He did play 16 games in 2020 though

  56. Albert Bryan Butler

    I met Gabe Jackson at the Senior Bowl. He looked bigger and stronger than Zach Martin who was sitting at the same table as him at the Meet & Greet.

    • MyChestIsBeastMode

      That’s enough me. Good signing!

      • Albert Bryan Butler

        Derek Carr was there two. Both were drafted by the Raiders that year. I’m sure Derek is not happy about it.

  57. Paul Cook

    Both moves MEH for me. Typical Seahawk moves, Situational 2nd tier FA’s and probably overpaying both of them given either their production so far, or in comparison to other players and where they are in their careers.

    I don’t know. BFD.

    I hope Dissley beats him out as a starter. Dissley more talented than this guy from an all round standpoint, just don’t know if he can show fully recovered form this year or not.

    What can I say? I want talent. Not filler.

  58. Paul Cook

    Yes, I know our new OG was not a FA, just classifying as such there.

  59. Malc from PO

    I neither am excited nor depressed by these signings. It’s the kind of deals that first round playoff loss teams make to keep being first round playoff loss teams. Unless there really is a splash trade in the offing, this doesn’t get us into the contender bracket. Yet. I will enjoy not watching Everett get half his year’s receiving in two games vs the Seahawks, though.

  60. J.P.

    Yeah somebody is getting traded, maybe even multiple guys. I’m more sure than ever. Schneider is not gonna sit with just 3 picks or whatever it is and the entire roster to fill out.

    Adams? Wagner? Lockett? DK lol?

    • Rob Staton

      Well, you’ve left a name out there…

      • Scot04

        Maybe PC & JS realize they need to get the signings done before trading Russ; because not many gonna be wanting to come after he’s gone. Just a little sarcastic thought

        • bmseattle

          I’m more optimistic now that they’ll trade Adams.
          It’s really the only trade that makes sense.

      • pdway

        Both these signings, seem at least somewhat tailored toward making RW happy, no? I read them as making it less likely a Russell trade is coming.

        • Rob Staton

          Not really

          They’ve traded for a guard who was about to be cut and spent quite a lot for one year of Gerald Everett. Both were positions of need

          It’s not like they threw down their gloves and went and landed Thuney and Jonnu Smith

          If Wilson wanted/wants out — I doubt he’s suddenly swayed by these moves

  61. Tony

    I mean, this has to say they are trading for picks. Right?! There has to be a gameplan here, right?!

    It’s like they are taking the gameplan of getting down early and waiting to the last minute when there backs are against the wall from the season to there offseason.

    Is pete trolling us? Like seriously, is he on Twitter just laughing and telling John, hey watch what they do when I do this.

    • Scot04

      Game plan…. how can we forget the 2020 offseason. PC doesn’t need no stinkin’ game plan. He’s to good for that.

  62. Ishmael

    I’ve firmly hit depression in the stages of grief when it comes to the Seahawks.

    I’m not sure who’s calling the shots between Carroll and Schneider, but whoever it is has absolutely butchered what could have been pretty special. The Jamaal Adams trade was the writing on the wall. There’s a reason why mortgaging the future for the half promise of today has always been the preserve of truly shit teams and organisations. Two firsts for an injury-prone box safety should be a fireable offence.

    The gradual slide into indifference and incompetence is grim to see.

  63. Paul Cook

    Here’s what I don’t get about our new TE. So we’re overpaying him production-wise on a one year contract. So we take a full CAP hit for him, and IF he does turn out to be a solid pick up, he’s a FA next off season when we will have to really pay up for him. If not, ten we merely overpaid for him this year.

    Do I have something wrong here?

    • Jordan E

      I think the front office is preparing to tear it down next year and rebuild if we have to. Doesn’t make sense tanking now especially since the Jets have our first.

      • Paul Cook

        I was just thinking it was a weird logic, and they’ve done this before. They obviously don’t believe heartily in this guy or they would have offered him more years, and also have been able to finagle the CAP better. So they don’t believe in him all that much, but they overpay him for one year just in case.

        The logic reeks of sorta-this-sorta that…

      • Hoggs41

        We have to remember that players get drafted on potential. Free agents get signed that way as well. They are signing him for what they think he can do this year, not what he did in the past. Jonnu Smith had similar numbers and got paid double. Im good with $6m a year, just wish it was two years instead of one.

        • Paul Cook

          Yeah, you basically defended the point I was making. If you like the guy, see in him something others don’t, then you bet on it, and bet on it in such a way that’s favorable to you. A one year deal is not that. That’s saying we-sorta-kinda-like-this-guy-but-not-really-that sure. Yet they overpay for him somewhat on a one year deal like they do believe in him, and if they are right, he stands to make a lot more next off season, especially when the CAP amount is lifted.

          All I’m saying is that it doesn’t reek of conviction. Not by the years and amounts the deal suggests.

    • king.

      Completely salient point about the one year deals. If a player ‘proves it’ then you have no proprietary rights. You simply got one year of great roster value. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But wouldn’t it be better to identify players you believed in and lock them down for multiple seasons at a reduced rate, with the ability to exit contracts when they didn’t ‘prove it’.

  64. Rob Staton

    Florio on Wilson:

    • JD

      He was spot on there with everything. If RW opened up the teams he’d be willing to go to, who do you think the next tier is?

    • MyChestIsBeastMode

      Haha – the trade was not good so Bears “you can go kick rocks and sign Andy Dalton”.

      Poor Dalton. He really is the red headed stepchild.

  65. pdway

    can’t believe I’m going down this Zapruder film rabbit hole of analyzing everything – – but here I am, noting to you all that Russell liked this tweet from Corbin Smith –

    • Rob Staton

      In fairness, Russell likes pretty much everything. Including one of my poxy tweets about Jonathan Taylor a year ago.

      He needs to spend less time on there

    • Tomas

      The tweet seems potentially quite significant to me.

      • Tomas

        … or at least interesting.

    • king.

      Under the theory that Russ and Pete have agreed to play nice in public for 2021, are we surprised Russ is liking an OL move that ostensibly addresses his stated concerns?

      • Rob Staton

        I would dispute that theory

        • king.

          I am well aware. But I still believe there are no trade solutions to the impasse. I think Russ will continue to make life hard on Pete, but not in public.

          • Paul Cook

            My guess is that he would make it hard on PC in public, rather than private, but do it through surrogates and other clandestine ways.

            Just MO.

          • Scot04

            Which does no good for either of them. If he truly wants out he should definitely be thinking about expanding that list.

            • king.

              This misses my major conjecture:

              1. Russ wants to win more than he wants anything.
              2. Russ does not believe he can win in Seattle.
              3. There is no destination that will be acceptable to Russ and Pete.

              Tell me what destination can satisfy Seattle with compensation and still leave Russ in a position to win and is qb needy.

              I can think of two:

              SF and MIA

              Rob has outlined why neither of those is good for Wilson.

              They are stuck together whether they like it or not. They are both smart enough to know it.

              As each year passes, the situation changes. If I am Wilson, I realize it’s not a good look to keep pressing a no solution issue in public, but I keep the pressure on in private that they need to either appease me or work toward a solution that fits both parties.

              • Rob Staton

                My biggest concern is it’s impossible to see anything but a short term arrangement between the two

                So FFS just work it out so that isn’t the case or move on

                Too many ego’s thinking about their own interests

            • king.

              Wanting out is not his primary motivation.

    • Mark T

      There is a good chance that Russ’s PR looks after his Twitter account

  66. Rob4q

    Well I have to believe these moves are intended to appease Russ some…I mean why would you trade for someone like Jackson if you were then going to trade Russ? I guess a 5th isn’t a lot to give up for a starting quality OG who’s supposed to be good at pass blocking. But when you have such limited draft picks it does hurt a little more. Sure feels like this is a “let’s give this one more try” sort of thing…that’s not really the way to go about it as has been said on here. Either fully commit to your $35 mil franchise QB or move on and find a QB who will play within the system you want to run.

    Speaking of 2021 Seahawks draft picks, why does the PFN now show them as having the following:


    Obviously #167 is going to the Raiders for Jackson, but where are the getting the late pick, #249 from?

  67. John

    Odd how people are claiming Russ is finally happy. I don’t think one 30yr old average-above average guard is going to end all the Russ drama.

    • Jordan E

      Agreed. Russ will only be happy with how far we go in the playoffs and if we have a chance at a SB.

      We should consider signing AB on the cheap. Would be an excellent pickup from a football standpoint.

    • Rob Staton


    • king.

      Exactly. The idea that this has mollified Russ is ridiculous.

  68. Hoggs41

    Jonnu Smith’s career numbers.
    114 catches
    1302 yards
    16 TD’s

    Gerald Everett’s career numbers.
    127 catches
    1389 yards
    8 TD’s

    Smith’s APY $12.5m
    Everett’s APY $6m

    • Hoggs41

      Just for kicks here are Smiths and Everetts combine numbers.



    • Tecmo Bowl

      40 Yard Dash: 4.62 seconds
      40 Yard (MPH): 17.71 (MPH)
      20 Yard Split: 2.67 seconds
      10 Yard Split: 1.61 seconds
      Bench Press: 22 reps (225 lb)
      Wonderlic: 24 (0-50)
      Vertical Leap: 37.5 inches
      Broad Jump: 126 inches
      20 Yd Shuttle: 4.33 seconds
      Three Cone: 6.99 seconds

      40 Yard Dash: 4.62 seconds
      40 Yard (MPH): 17.71 (MPH)
      20 Yard Split: 2.71 seconds
      10 Yard Split: 1.64 seconds
      Bench Press: 22 reps (225 lb)
      Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50)
      Vertical Leap: 38.0 inches
      Broad Jump: 127 inches
      20 Yd Shuttle: 4.18 seconds
      Three Cone: (N/A) seconds

      Everett and Smith tested nearly identical. Same height Smith +9 lbs.

      • Rob Staton

        There’s quite a difference in short shuttle though and that’s a key test for TE’s

  69. BruceN

    What’s the plan at C? Andrews, draft? I thought we may sign a C and draft a guard (Cleveland) but I guess that wasn’t the plan.

    The good news, Dunlap’s market hasn’t picked up (yet) so we may sign him back.

    • Rob Staton

      Go get Quinn Meinerz or if you want to take a shot on his health, Landon Dickerson

      • Hoggs41

        Would love either one of those two at 56. Personally I wouldnt mind bringing back Pocic on the cheap if we drafted one of those guys. At worst he could back up all interior spots. You have a favorite of Dickerson or Meinerz?

      • BruceN

        Rams have been eyeing and kicking the tires on Meinerz. Dickerson is a big risk with all the injuries he’s had.

        • Chase

          > Dickerson is a big risk with all the injuries he’s had.

          We are a year removed from drafting Darrell Taylor. Anything is possible with this FO.

  70. SpennyDunks

    Im not overly happy with the compensation for either. If Adams were available I imagine we would have heard rumblings by now. But something like trading Adams, extending Russ to create some space, acquiring Sherm, David Andrews and bringing Dunlap back, and I’d be a little more satisfied going into this year then last season.

  71. DC

    If these signings pan out & we hit on our draft picks, however many there end up being, this offense will be bad ass.

    The stars are aligned to draft Meinerz. Don’t F this up!

  72. Brik

    I’ve gotten to the point when I hear everyone saying it would be a good idea to do something, I know there’s no chance it’s going to happen. No way we trade anyone to get draft picks. No way we sign any of the top receivers. To figure out what the Seahawks are doing I need to get in the mindset of how can I make an average move into a bad move.

    On another note, does anyone know what our comp. picks situation looks like right now? Does the trade for Gabe Jackson and signing of Everett take some capital away with the comp. picks?

    • A-A-Ron

      Sadly, you are not alone. It is tiring to think that a community of fans can so clearly see where this team is utterly failing. Yet, Pom Pom Pete is paid millions to shepherd this team to what will at best be a WC Loss and at worst a top 5 pick for NYJ.

    • SpennyDunks

      Trades dont factor into the comp pick formula at all. Griffin signed a big deal, Wright eventually will and Carson will probably get a big number as well. At worst, one of those should get us a pick while Witherspoon and Everett will cancel the other two – however if our old players get much higher salaries we could get 2 depending on who else we sign and which of our old players sign elsewhere. So essentially, its way too early to tell.

    • Rob Staton

      The GE & AW signings do

    • Brik

      Alright, thanks guys.

      • JJ

        To many holes to fill this year to worry about comp picks.

    • dcd2

      We’ve lost Shaq, Hyde and Dorsett

      We’ve signed Everett and Witherspoon

      In theory, we might have a comp pick coming our way. I honestly don’t know how the offsets work though. At this point, I question whether our FO does either.

      I do like the Everett signing (not the cost) and don’t like the Jackson trade. Assuming CC and KJ sign elsewhere, we could still get 3 comp picks. I’m not holding my breath though.

  73. RIP Sonics

    Seems that trading Reed could work out okay if you are able to draft Alim McNeil or Daviyon Dixon. Outside of that seems like not much to upgrade the interior and you’d be taking a step back without an free agent signing.
    I was holding out hope for Tommy Tremble in the draft. Still could happen but seems they need to either trade down and accumulate several times to get resources to warrant it. Dude looks like a perfect H back option we could move around the help the run game and has athleticism to be a good option in the passing game.
    Aaron Banks or Landon Dickerson would be great to come out of the draft with. Quinten Menertz or David Moore as the 1B options.
    Ihmir Smith-Marsette WR (Iowa) and Israel Muafu CB (South Carolina) would be luxury picks if we can maneuver to get more picks in the middle rounds. These two just look like Seahawks to me.
    I could be content with 4 picks if they were turned into these guys but seems tough. Trading down allows you to get more shots at these middle tier guys but risks losing out on options like Dickerson, Dixon, McNeil. Tough spot without trading for picks. Unless you fall in love with a undervalued prospect you could go after the trade down, somethings has got to give.

    • Scot04

      We need to add to our D-line, not lose another starter. To me it should be Adams and Wagner. Plus your not gonna get much for Reed. He’s much more valuable here

      • Hebegbs

        Agreed 100%. Trading Reed would be stupid. Not enough return value to be had.

    • Tomas

      I’d draft sight unseen anyone named Tommy Tremble.

  74. Jason

    I can’t speak for Jackson very much. I do think they will sign a longer contract with him and push a lot of the cap hit to at least next year.

    But I am very excited about Everett. He is more athletic than any TE we have on the roster and is a threat to line up anywhere on the field. The Rams used him on end-arounds, TE screens, all sorts of crazy stuff. Really, really good after the catch (5.6 YPC).

    In my opinion signing Everett takes away the need for spending big on a 3rd WR. I’m not against taking a flyer on someone, that all said.

    • Rob Staton

      I can’t speak for Jackson very much. I do think they will sign a longer contract with him and push a lot of the cap hit to at least next year.

      Well he’s on the hook for $9m next year too. So how much are we committing to him???

  75. Hebegbs

    Just had this thought that most of the issues we are facing with the Hawks have really more to do with not drafting well the last 5 years. They signed their star QB to 35 mm which was necessary and sapped a lot of ability to sign FA. Not all the blame lies there (draft) but most. They have just not done well in the draft finding talent at all levels especially 3-5th which you need to find some guys like they did early on. They have whiffed a lot. Not sure if that is luck of the draw or simply bad evaluation.

  76. Tree

    I like both of these signings bc not only do they fill holes but bring specific skills we need. Watching highlights I am impressed by Everett’s quickness and YAC abilities which seemed to allow him to get 3rd downs (we were not good at that last year). Gabe Jackson has been one of the better pass blocking guards in the league and is not ancient. Plus Solari knows how to undo Tom Cable’s technique. An upgrade at center and I will be very excited for our OL next year.

  77. Blitzy the Clown

    If you told me beforehand that we’d come out of the first half of FA/tampering with Gerald Everett and Gabe Jackson, I’d have been pretty happy. They’re decent players in their own right, and they’re reasonable improvements over their predecessors at two positions of relative need.

    But if you also told me they would eat up $17 million in cap space in 2021 (unless Jackson is extended/restructured) and cost one of Seattle’s four 2021 draft picks, I’d have said no thanks.

    It’s not the players. I’m ok with them. It’s the cost – not just on the books – but also the opportunity cost of not using that cap space and draft pick otherwise. They could’ve signed Zeitler for even $9 million apy just to get the deal done and still have $8 million in cap space left and their round 5 pick. Then pick Tremble at 129 if he’s there and have a monster inline TE on the cheap for a few seasons.

    I dunno. I guess it’s better to be ok with the player and not with the money than the other way around.

    But there has to be a big trade looming. I just don’t see how they go through the draft with only 3 picks.

    • Jason

      They won’t go in with just 3 picks. A fifth-round pick is nothing… JS can snag one of those by sneezing.

      • Hawks31

        I got excited, I thought they traded for Gabe Cabrimi. Carimi, 3 1’s, and Andy Dalton?!

    • Rob Staton

      But if you also told me they would eat up $17 million in cap space in 2021 (unless Jackson is extended/restructured) and cost one of Seattle’s four 2021 draft picks, I’d have said no thanks.

      Yep. They are a pair of $3-4m signings. They’re costing $15m instead

    • SeattleLifer

      Exactly this.

    • Sea Mode


      well summarized.

  78. Joe

    Rob— what would you think about the hawks acquiring 3 of the FA’s listed, keeping Wagner, trading Adams for picks, this year and next.

    Draft, order of importance: C/OL, DL, CB/S, LB, RB

    Sign 3 players at positions DE, CB, WR, G/C: Dunlap, Sherman, Alden Smith, JuJu, Andrews, Tate.

    Also, what would you think about the Hawks signing Fitz, a huge security and vet presence for Wilson.

    • Joe

      This assumes of course they free up cap space with Wilson’s deal and shift money to 2022 for the FA contracts. You go all in on RW and show him you can push the team as close to a SB with what you have and you try to extend him next off season for a market deal. Best outcome for all involved. Attitude: “F- if, go for it and if Russ forces his way out next year, we get same offer of picks because everyone makes an offer because they know he wants out.”

    • Rob Staton

      Fitz has gone to WFT.

      I am happy with anything that involves Adams going for picks and Sherman coming home

  79. Gaux Hawks

    bears should pull the trigger… dalton, mack and johnson, three firsts, a second and a third. maybe receive a six/seventh in return. imagine how upset their fans are… dalton?

  80. MattyIce

    Does anyone have an idea of what the franchise tag would be for a TE next season? Trying to think positively here about Gerald Everett having a really good year next year, and wondering what it might cost to retain him.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s $9.6m this year so presumably would be about the same next year

  81. Mick

    I can understand Everett to a degree. We’re paying for his previous experience with our OC. Not quite happy with the Jackson move. For that much money we should have scooped a better guard. I also think it would have been better to trade up in the draft with the pick we gave the Raiders and a 2022 pick and draft a guard. Many options and you have a cheap starter. Hopefully they can restructure his deal so the cap hit doesn’t kill all our possible moves.

  82. John_s

    My plan for the rest of the off-season ~

    Restructure Wilson and Bobby, add a year to Gabe Jackson’s contract then trade Lockett to NY Giants for #76. This opens up about $35mil in cap space for around $36.8m

    Sign Josh Reynolds 2yrs $9 mil ($4m year one hit).
    Sign DeSean Jackson 1yr $4m
    Sign Sheldon Rankins 3yrs $18m ($5 yr one hit)
    Re-Sign Dunlap 2yrs $20m ($7m year one hit)
    Re-sign Carson or Mike Davis or Damian Williams 3yrs $12m ($3m year one)

    This leaves around $13.8m for draft, PS, Injury and mid season acquisitions

    For the draft you have #56, 76, 129, maybe a 7th if there were conditions on the Parry Nickerson trade. Trade #56 to Jax for #65 and 106.

    #65 – Quin Meinerz (C)~ He’s a must get out of this draft
    #76 – Dyami Brown (WR)~ Elite deep threat reminds me of Mike Wallace from the Steelers
    #106 – Benjamin St Juste, Paulson Adebo or Robert Rochelle (CB)
    #129 – D’Ante Smith (OT), Hamsah Nasrildean (S/LB)

    Seattle loves to pick guys who played at the senior bowl and they did other the an Dyami Brown and Paulson Adebo

    I would love to bring KJ back, but would I decided signing a DT like Rankins was more important to this team than KJ.

    • Seahawk_Dan

      You probably could get more for Locket. Including a brain aneurysm from Russ if he lost one of his best weapons.

    • Jason

      You lost me at Lockett for 76. The guy had over a hundred catches for us last year. Like Dan says below (above?) Russell would poop his pants if you were like “yeah, ditch Lockett for a third round pick”.

    • Ashish

      We did something right by drafting and grooming Lockett and you want to give it away for lottery ticket?

    • Seahawk_Dan

      And picks on top of that? Pete was an idiot for not taking that offer.

      • Brik

        That’s how a lot of us think. The thing is Pete’s subscribes to the philosophy of starting with the back 7, meaning the Defensive Backs and Linebackers. Having Mack probably doesn’t mean a whole lot to him. And with him saying that “we aren’t rebuilding”, I think if you added in a player like Darnold he would’ve been more open to the idea. He doesn’t want to have to find a QB or start from scratch. They basically lucked out with Russ, and I’m sure he remembers what it was like before him. I feel like Pete has lost his nerve. I know I was kind of excited at the idea of starting from scratch. The Bears can trade 4 1st Round picks on draft day, I believe if any deal is done it’ll be on draft day.

      • Belfasthawk

        I think in this instance he is pretty sensible. Mack is a game wrecker but as Poli says it is two older expensive players. I would be much more interested in Johnson, Smith, Kmet. I hadn’t really considered Mooney. The three firsts are likely to be later picks. I think you needed younger players and/or some twos instead of the third.

    • Poli

      Two 30+ year old D-Linemen and three late 1sts for an elite QB doesn’t do it for me.

      • Scot04

        Based on what Garofalo said they wanted young controllable starters in the deal with the pick. Sounds like Chicago wasn’t to keen on giving the Seahawks the young starters they wanted as part of the deal; which makes more sense.

      • McZ

        Welcome to your personal career scrapyard, Gabe! Time to relax…

        And, btw, well done Mike Mayock. Hanging 9.6m of cap space onto the Seahawks, for a premier cut target and still cashing in a 5th rounder we cann ill-afford to lose.

        Meanwhile, Seattle pays 19.1m for two seasons of Jackson, while Zeitler comes in at 22m for three. I think, they will need to restructure him immediately.

        • McZ

          Darn, this was a new post, why is it as an answer here???

    • Scot04

      They were both on a list of players available the amount of players dependent on whom chosen. They also said some of those player may not have been available any longer. In other words Mack because of his extension. Still Garofalo said on KJR Seattle wanted Mooney and Johnson in a deal but it never got that far. So if Chicago balked at giving up Mooney and Johnson, that’s on Chicago.

  83. Deuce

    I feel that trading for Gabe benefits the Raiders more than it does for us. Despite LV losing a starting O-lineman, they removed a player who doesn’t fit their scheme, cleared a solid amount in cap, and got a 5th rounder to boot. Perhaps the deal for Gabe was a precursor to a much larger deal ahead with LV? They were 1 of 4.

  84. ElroyNumbers

    I guess I view roster construction differently – I would rather sign one legit play and a couple min wage type guys than sign three mediocre players at like prices we are paying for Everett Jackson etc. Our team has no direction.

  85. Scot04

    I think after the Seahawks lost out on Zeitler and saw what guards were left in FA, they figured Gabe Jackson was better. Rather than risking losing out on another Free-agent Guard they just traded for him. With no 6th round pick all they pretty much could offer to beat other teams was a 5th. Was the deal a Great on, No. Compared to some of what was left though on the market, I’d say he was better. Personally i would have preferred they went after Andrews 1st. In regards to Everett i think definitely a better signing than Olsen, but I think 7M abit much for his production. It almost felt like last year. Over spend on mid level after missing out on top talent. I was hoping they would fill the TE position later, but evidently this is gonna be a yearly thing. Would have Rather seen what Parkinson could do and use that 7m on Andrews.

    • Belfasthawk

      I agree that Jackson is uninspiring. I suppose I wonder what they would have got in the 5th round. It makes it an easier pill to swallow.

  86. Poli

    Looking at how cheap Haason Reddick went for, would’ve been perfect to get the trio of Reddick for the Irvin role, Dunlap at Leo, and Clowney at 5T.

    Any money leftover for Everett and a quality IOL would be a bonus.

    • Sea Mode

      +1, or even without Clowney

    • Mick

      The priority should not be DL. Not the best choices, but investing in a guard, a center, a RB and a TE is the right thing to do.

  87. SonGoku

    Rob, sorry if you’ve answered this question already, but where do you think C Landon Dickerson will go in the draft? Talent-wise he seems like a possible first-rounder, but how far will he fall due to the injury concerns? Do you prefer him over Meinerz?

    • Rob Staton

      It’s hard to say. He has the talent for R1 and the injury history to last to day three. It really depends on whether you trust the medicals or want to take a chance.

      He’s a totally different player to Meinerz in fairness

  88. Hunter

    Not FA related but did you happen to see Illinois WR Josh Imatorbhebhe‘a pro day numbers? Absolutely crushed it, 46.5” vert 4.48 40 and 11’2” broad jump while standing 6’2 220

    • IHeartTacoma

      That’s an amazing vertical. Found this on the Google:

      The highest vertical jump ever officially recorded was 47.1 inches by Josh Imatorbhebhe at the 2015 Nike Football Rating Championships.

      Man, that must feel good.

  89. CallMeAL

    Wow, really great interview with Quinn Meinerz! I really hate watching these videos as you see a guy like this and really like him and if the Seahawks have a chance to get him, they pick someone else. To many disappointments over the years.

    Just looked on and realized the Seahawks are really limited on guys they can restructure/extend for cap saving purposes. I don’t believe they will restructure RW and don’t think Wagner makes a lot of sense. Looks like it really comes down to Lockett or Brown and then there’s Brown’s age.

    It really feels like some kind of a trade or trades are coming. They are over the cap, but still appear to be after Dunlap as well as in on other players.

    Should be an interesting next few weeks!

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