Bengals might be sellers, albeit unreasonable sellers
Jason La Canfora is reporting that Cincinnati are more inclined to trade veterans this year, 12 months on from a bizarre approach to their roster rebuild.
Owner Mike Brown is notoriously stubborn and runs his franchise like a local pub. Trying to trade with him can be a nightmare.
Will anything change?
“I think they are more open to it, yeah,” one general manager said. “I’m just not sure how realistic they’re going to be about the value of these players. We’ll see. I know they’re getting calls and there a bunch of players who want out of there ASAP.”
Therein lies the problem. It’s OK being willing to trade. If he’s going to ask for a second round pick for Carlos Dunlap and A.J. Green, the end result will be the same.
“Who knows, man?” another executive said. “Every time we talk to them it feels like a waste of time because they can’t pull the trigger.”
Dunlap in particular is trying to orchestrate a trade. The Bengals should grant him his wish, move on and try to reshape their roster over the next two years. He’d be a good option for the Seahawks for a late round flier — someone with a history of getting sacks and can play early downs in a four-man front.
I’m just not convinced Cincinnati will be reasonable with their asking price.
However, Ian Rapoport says he could be inactive today ahead of a potential move — so this is one to monitor.
The Texans are gearing up for a busy deadline
La Canfora also notes the Texans are gauging the market for Whitney Mercilus and a number of other players, including receivers Will Fuller and Brandin Cooks.
Houston needs two things — more draft picks and cap space. They’re currently without a first or second round pick in 2021 and they’re already $16m over the cap for next season.
However good Deshaun Watson is, that’s not an appealing situation for any prospective GM or Head Coaching candidate.
Having blown the cheap years when Watson was on his rookie deal, they’ll now have to operate with one of the most expensive players in the NFL on their books (not to mention Laremy Tunsil’s record-setting contract too).
While the likelihood of a blockbuster trade is minimal, there seems to be sufficient interest in enough players to facilitate a transaction or two by the deadline.
They’re not going to get a mega-offer in the top two rounds but they can pad out their depth for day three and save salary by making smart moves now.
Mercilus is the most interesting one for Seattle. He’s 30, quick off the edge and could do a job. Yet the market for a somewhat expensive, ageing pass rusher has to be something like a sixth rounder. It’s a salary dump.
I’m not sure the Texans will be willing to make that move. After all — their cap problems for 2021 are not as severe as the Falcons, Eagles or Saints. They also don’t have any reason to ‘tank’ the season. If anything, continuing to lose from a 1-5 position will be infuriating. Imagine if they end up gifting Miami a top-five pick that they use on Penei Sewell for a fraction of the cost of Tunsil? Ouch.
They almost have to find a way to win games to save face.
Minnesota Vikings open to further trades
Reportedly it’s possible Adam Thielen could be dealt. I’m tempted to say if the Seahawks were willing to risk their reputation on failing to sign Antonio Brown, they should be keeping an eye on the receiver market in general.
Thielen is 30 but Brown is 32. He’s a pillar of consistency — one of the savviest receivers in the game. He already has seven touchdowns this season and he has 22 in the last two a bit years.
Do I think he’ll be moved? No. If anything, he’s someone the Vikings should be desperate to keep hold of. It’d probably take a deal even greater than the Yannick Ngakoue trade to make it happen.
It’s also been confirmed that both the Seahawks and Tampa Bay were only willing to offer the veteran minimum to Brown — so they weren’t breaking the bank there.
Forget the cost though. Seattle was willing to take a major, substantial risk on Brown the person — both in terms of potential disruption and reputational damage.
If they really want to add another dynamic weapon to both support and appease the one player dragging this franchise along — they should be seeing what it’d take to get Thielen, Odell Beckham Jr, Will Fuller or any other talented, dynamic receiver.
Forget about Quinnen Williams and Ryan Kerrigan
According to Ian Rapoport:
Though more than a few teams have called inquiring about DT Quinnen Williams, source said it will take much more than the rumored second-round pick for Gang Green to part with him. GM Joe Douglas will consider anything, but for a player as highly regarded as Williams, it’s more of a question of, “How many second rounders?”
I can’t imagine anyone stumping up multiple second rounders.
Rapoport also says Ryan Kerrigan is unlikely to be dealt:
“Though other executives appear curious if Ryan Kerrigan is available, that doesn’t seem likely. Instead, it’s former second-rounder Ryan Anderson who has drawn calls and appears to be available for an edge-needy team.”
Anderson has short arms, ran a 4.78 forty and a 7.73 three-cone so he’s unlikely to be on Seattle’s radar.
Ohio State center stands out
With the Big-10 starting, a lot of focus was understandably on quarterback Justin Fields. However, it was the player snapping him the ball that drew my attention against Nebraska.
Josh Myers is 6-5 and 312lbs and a former four-star recruit. He has an ideal combo of physical power to move players off the line of scrimmage and the athleticism and agility to reach to the second level and handle blocks on the move.
At SPARQ he ran an impressive 5.11 forty and an even more impressive 4.49 short shuttle. Those are terrific numbers for an interior lineman at his size. He had the highest SPARQ score (109.35) among all offensive linemen in 2017.
For me there’s absolute no doubt he has the potential to be a first round selection. He’s everything that teams look for in a high O-line pick — physical, athletic, consistent and with high upside.
Keep him on your radar for the rest of the year. He’s only a junior so might not declare for 2021 but he has the potential to go early in the draft.
Seth Williams deserves more attention
He was on our watch-list for the season but Williams kind of gets lost in the wash. There’s not a lot that’s right at Auburn but their top receiver continues to make an impression.
Williams basically won them the game against Ole Miss with eight catches for 150 yards, a touchdown and a two-point conversion. He was unstoppable on slants, creating early separation and always offering an easy-out to Bo Nix. He showed great hands and he extends his arms to high-point and catch the ball.
On one slant he darted upfield and hurdled a defender for YAC. On another occasion Nix basically threw a Hail Mary with 3:26 left in the third quarter. Williams boxed-out his man and caught it in double coverage on the goal line. He showed incredible concentration, positioning and finish.
He made an incredible play to win the game with 1:16 left. Trailing by a point he caught a difficult sideline throw. It was aimed at the back shoulder but the defender had reasonable position and Williams had to contort his body and stretch out to catch it. He then avoided a slipping defender and sprinted from half-way for a 58-yard touchdown (before adding the two-point conversion).
Testing will be important for Williams but he just has a natural ability and he looks the part of a NFL receiver.
Other standout players
It feels like we’ve been talking about Wisconsin tight end Jake Ferguson for years. He could finally be delivering on his massive potential. Against Illinois he rebounded from a costly fumble to record seven catches, 72 yards and three touchdowns. He has ideal size, 4.6 speed, he jumped a 35-inch vertical at SPARQ and ran a fantastic 4.15 short shuttle. He has the profile, now he just needs the production. He could easily be a day two pick if he builds on this start.
It was only against Texas State but BYU quarterback Zach Wilson was superb again with four more touchdowns and 287 yards. He continues to be one of the most impressive players in college football and his stock should be rising quickly.
Michigan’s Kwity Paye has outstanding physical potential and he flashed that with two sacks against Minnesota. On one sack he lined up inside despite not being a natural fit there, then swam by the left guard and exploded into the backfield. He had a hand in another by using pure power to drive the left tackle into the backfield, disengage and then compete to the QB. He was on our watch-list for the year and he has a great shot to get into the first round discussion.
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Glad you got past your pique re. the Brown postings and got this published, good assessment of the moment and future prospects. There’s been a bit of speculation about trade activity being more active early this week accounting for the Covid time influences. That’s a two edged sword though as the sellers understand it too and will likely reach a bit on value early in the week. It may be that the more realistic deals will still occur closer to the deadline with teams accepting that they’ll have one less game of use of the player.
While I don’t have much confidence that PC/JS are going to do much if anything D line wise, I can’t help but wonder if they should end up getting their butts handed to them tonight might that provide added motivation. We’ll see.
This is part of the issue when you wait until the last minute to address your self-stated priority. The options are few and possibly expensive.
Exactly Cha,
That’s why we spent two 1sts and a 3rd on a Safety. But i do hope the do something to address the Pass Rush
My AB and Ngakoue/Kerrigan dreams smashed….
I wonder why the Seahawks didn’t go all in, and deal the late 2nd rounder for Ngakoue? Wouldn’t he have made the difference< kind of like Frank Clark with the Chiefs last season?
Presumably because they felt like chance of retaining Ngakoue and that would’ve left them with no picks, all for an 11 game rental.
Franchise tag was an option.
An EXPENSIVE option. If Seattle wasn’t willing to pay Clark or Clowney top dollar, I’d be surprised if they changed that for Ngakoue (or anyone else).
Not necessarily. It could be just to retain his rights and recoup some draft capital in trade.
That’s fair. I was working under the assumption that the tag would be to keep him here.
But they’d have an extra 3rd comp pick in 2022, if they couldn’t re-sign him…
Would be weird without a pick in the first 3 rounds though
Not if you sign replacement players. You won’t get a comp pick.
If it’s anything like this past free agency, i think that 3rd should be safe
unless I’m mistaken how the cancelled comp pick thing works
Actually based on this past free agency it wouldn’t have been.
Irvin, Finney, Mayowa, Shell, Dorsett — I think I’m missing others — they all would’ve cancelled out comp picks.
If they are thinking about upgrades on offense, and if they considered Brown they obviously are, I wonder if they’d look at Brandon Scherff from Washington. Iupati at LG has had to be managed all season long, and is out again tonight. Upgrading and stabilizing LG would probably have a more significant effect on our offense than upgrading our WR core. We still have to face Donald twice this year, Scherff would hold up better than Simmons would, certainly.
That being said, Scherff is playing on the franchise tag this year, and would want to be paid as the top guard after the season. Washington may also have no interest in moving him, I haven’t seen him demanding to be traded like Dunlap has.
I doubt they would. The Hawks have lots of options at LG.
After Iupati, they’ve got Simmons. Then they’ve got Finney (if they feel comfortable elevating Fuller to #2 C) and they might get Haynes back before too long.
I think another WR would be a significant upgrade vs a new left guard to be honest. Especially with the need to score points.
Agreed. Not sure how easy it would be to slide a new LG mid season into what is a decent unit too.
Agreed. Seattle currently leads the league in scoring but 4 of their 5 wins have been by 1-score. If the defense doesn’t start getting off the field sooner / more frequently then adding additional weapons on offense is certainly a decent “Plan B” (with Plan A presumably being to add defensive players).
Rob,
I’m fairly new to your blog but I was wondering how you choose which college players to write about? Do you pick players/positions that would fill a “need” for the Seahawks? Or just exciting players you feel like talking about?
I just watch games and write about who stands out. Or sometimes I watch a specific player based on a recommendation or review I have read.
Sounds solid to me! Keep ’em coming, they’re definitely a good read.
i know we’re 5-0 but i was relieved this morning when i saw the cards, rams and niners schedules to finish the season… there are going to be some tough losses across the board.
Yeah, depending on which site you look at, their “remaining Strength of Schedule” varies somewhat, but all 3 of our NFC West brethren are in the Top 5 for toughest remaining schedule. Seattle, meanwhile, is in the bottom 5 or 10.
I’m pretty bummed that NFL has seemingly moved on, or forgotten about Josh Gordon. I was never really counting on him, but man his ability to move the chains on those slant plays he made last year (admittedly on very limited target) seems to be something this team could use. As good as the offense is, they are not good on third down.
Dunlap would be a great get, but man, you’re pretty screwed when you’re needing a reasonable deal from the Bengals to salvage the DL issues (facepalm AF).
I’m wondering if it’s a case of Josh having “slipped” or not done enough to get a “Yes” and maybe the league just doesn’t want / “need” to say “No.”
We also don’t know what the NFL knows.
I suspect there’s more to this than people think.
Even if he had a relapse, didn’t follow the process and did drugs again (likely pot), that would not be in the same level of what AB has done with multiple accusations of sexual assaults, harassments and lawsuits. One has done harm to himself, the other has allegedly committed multiple felonies and crimes against others. This just doesn’t smell right.
Probably right, but if that’s the case, fine, just let it be known. I find it annoying the NFL thinks of itself as some top secret clandestine organization.
I don’t think they’re being secretive; I think they’re simply “protecting Josh’s privacy” (assuming, of course, that there’s a “reason” they haven’t ruled on his reinstatement application and aren’t just “sitting” on it).
Mike Garafolo speculated this morning that Gordon could be back week 10. That would complete a full season suspension, if thats what Goodell wants. It would be cool if Goodell added some or any clarity regarding Gordon. Keeping JG in a holding pattern is a disservice to the hawks and player.
Haha yeah expecting Mike Brown to be a reasonable trade partner is a losing battle. Dunlap would be a nice get though.
No disagreement on Gordon re; moving the chains and reliable hands. But shouldn’t that be why they took on Olsen? He’s made a career of that sort of thing in addition to the blocking help. Why we haven’t seen more of that is a wonderment to me. Perhaps, if tonight’s game plan, in part, is to keep Murray off the field as much as possible (and “hide” the defense) then we’ll see more of him…………and Carson.
Yes, I’ve wondered that a lot too
I think if he is reinstated it will be week 10 or 11. That makes it a one year suspension
I’m in the camp that would have liked for Seattle to add AB, but the $2.5M (max) he’s getting from the Bucs would definitely have made adding help on the D-line harder than it already is.
Given the current / reported “status” of available players, my vote(s) would be for Dunlap and/or Tak McKinley.
Well the price of AB won’t matter if they don’t add anyone before the deadline.
Hopefully they arent done with their roster and do make a trade
Very, VERY true. At the moment, I’m a little less annoyed about the Hawks opening courting him and then NOT signing him based on what he got from Tampa Bay. But, yeah, if the didn’t sign him and then also DON’T ADD ANYONE ON DEFENSE . . .
It will be super frustrating if that’s what happens. But also sorta “par for the course” given how the entire offseason played out.
He got the veteran minimum with bonuses tied to SB wins and playoff appearances.
I’m not sure why this deal has put you off.
Who are people rooting for in a trade?
Kerrigan
Dunlap
Fackrell
McKinley
Someone Else
Someone Else! Someone Else!
https://youtu.be/oBocn14u7Do
Along with what Tecmo Bowl posted above about Gordon possibly coming back week 10, Garafolo also confirmed that it was RW driving the Seahawks’ interest in Brown, and adds that the team itself may not have been so on board… hmmm…
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1320381642490466315
Looks like Dunlap will be active:
Mike Brown… ‘if he gets a tackle we can ask for a R1’
🙂
Dunlap is not inactive.
Great write up here Rob. I really hope the Hawks make a move at DLine or WR. I dont if they could afford it but OBJ has a reasonable contract and wants to get out of Cleveland. Brandin Cooks too but his contract is a bit much for his talent. Thielen would be outright nasty if we got him. Great character guy there too.
Again, our locker room is strong and we should maximize Russ’s ability. We need to support him just as the Chiefs support Mahomes. Mahomes has like 4-5 pro-bowl/all-pro talents to support him. We have 2-3.
I think the DLine market might be too overpriced. Dunlap though would be a great fit. Im not too sure of Mercilus. Havent watched enough tape.
Hopefully Hawks do make some move though. I really hope they have more moves in mind besides practice squad signings.
So per Jay Glazer:
— Russell Wilson had been campaigning to sign Antonio Brown for months
— The Seahawks ‘thought’ they had a shot to get him but they did not
Good grief.
https://twitter.com/PFN365/status/1320404763322798082
yuck
Yahoo sports had a long writeup about how AB torched most of his previous connections. The only person he didn’t torch was Tom Brady (and apparently Russell Wilson). He felt that Tom was sympathetic to his issues. In any case, it payed off for AB when he got signed up with Tampa Bay.
I guess I don’t see the huge deal here. We were linked to a controversial player and failed to get him. In terms of it being a bad look for the Seahawks no one is going to care in a week.
Just look at that Bruce Arians quote in the tweet from Warren Sharp. When you have a star QB that is either undermining or overriding the front office it isn’t a good look. PCJS should have been more careful about confirming their interest in AB. Wilson should have been smarter about who he publicly pushes the team to sign.
They weren’t ‘linked’. They pursued him.
And just because people won’t care in a week doesn’t mean they shouldn’t.
Rob, how do you think this will effect Wilson’s credibility with his teammates? He’s embarrassed himself badly here. Brown disrespecting him so publicly might cause some damage, imo.
I don’t think it’ll have any negative impact with his team mates.
I think it might cause a little bit of an issue between the team and QB.
How did Brown disrespect him? If this is about his tweet from January about wanting to play with Brady, that would have been before they worked out together in the preseason. Wilson has plenty to be embarrassed about, but not that.
Wilson put his reputation on the line by publicly supporting Brown and actively recruiting him. For Brown to then sign with the Buccaneers to play with Brady is a slap in Wilson’s face.
I disagree. It’s a business. Brown made the decision to sign with a QB he had some familiarity with. That’s not a slap in the face. Perhaps Wilson should have made sure what Brown’s intentions were before he stick his neck out for a guy like that. Suggests to me they aren’t all that close, which makes it all the more bizarre Wilson did.
Fair enough. In any case, Wilson showed extremely poor judgment and needs to be held to account. Let’s just hope it doesn’t result in any on-field issues.
I have a sinking feeling that PCJS will just roll with what they’ve got at this point. Gut feeling.
I tend to agree, unless a sweetheart deal falls into their laps. They are shopping in the bargain bin I’m afraid, and have no intention of trading the R2 pick. So, if they can get a Dunlap or McKinley for a R5 pick or so they might pull the trigger. Any more expensive than that, they will move on IMO.
Agree 100%, sadly.
My general feeling is that they already blew their budget with 60 million in free agents and two first round draft picks dealt. Now they are working on the next two years budget.
Could Dunlap be a player that takes us over the edge? Admittedly, the Bengals havent been a team I watch much.
Generally I think Dunlap would be a good acquisition, but you’d have to limit his snaps to keep him fresh. And he’s likely a rental. He could marginally improve the pass rush but I doubt he takes the defense from terrible to even ok.
If taking the defense from bottom third to middle of the pack qualifies as taking us over the edge, then yes.
Even K Mack would only make this defense ok. There’s just not enough thump on the DL.
This is why you don’t spend two 1sts and a 3rd on a safety. He can’t fix a poor pass rush no matter how good he is.
Look, they won’t even pay 6 mils to a pro-bowl DE during the off-season, what make you think they are willing to ditch out another 10 mils plus draft picks for Dunlap?
Hawks are trying to save whatever picks they have left from 2021. May be a late rounder or player swap..I guess that’s it unless they start chipping in to 2022 draft picks.
They were banking on veteran cuts on the cut down day which didn’t happen..now they are hoping for mid season cuts?
So we pass on MOntez Sweat who was not hurt in college then dominated the Senior Bowl and Combine but had a misdiagnosed heart condition to draft Lj Collier.
Then we trade up to draft Darrel Taylor a guy who was hurt his entire college career and could not compete at Senior Bowl or combine.
That makes a ton of sense. Sweat is exactly the type of speed rusher this team badly needs.
Have to wonder about our medical staff considering every rookie class seems to struggle with injuries.
Philip Dorsett was a big miss as well.
Seems like there have been a ton of medical / injury issues particularly with the young players.
Our medical staff has to be one of the worst in the league.
Felt all along that the Hawks should have stuck at #21 and selected the best DE available, which was clearly Sweat. He fit all their physical ideals with good production. Then trade down with pick #27 to fill in the middle round picks. JS saw something else. No idea what it was. Collier has been looking decent this year, but he’ll never have upside any where close to Sweat.
There was also a big cliff of DE (Winovich, Crosby, Nelson)that dried up by the middle of round 4 in that draft. JS traded up to draft Barton. Just brutal.
Trading up for DK has saved that class from a very poor grade.
Man, I wonder the price on Will Fuller. He is hurt quite a bit but whoa man would he be filthy with Lock and DK.
Dunlap really is trying to get out. I always heard about the way Brown runs the team and that if a vet really wanted out he and his “family business” style would work to accommodate them. This is a chance to see if that’s true. The price though…
Seth Williams is underrated. He has real skill and carried the load on an OK team. He kind of reminds me of Bryan Edwards last year. Maybe he goes in the same range?
I think Russ and Kyler are going to put on a show tonight.
41-38 Hawks as Russ throws for 4 TDS. Murray becomes the first QB to run for 100 + yds / Pass for 300 + yds in a loss.
Cowpukes tanking for Lawrence?
Win never to get Trevor.
Cowboys could easily bounce back next year and be really good if they got Trevor. That low QB cap hit… plus cedee looking real good. Just need to build that defense with the remaining money
I feel like I hear this every year..
Dallas are a mile away.
The famous O-line is no more. The defense is a mess. They have a bloated roster full of players on massive contracts.
They need to reset but probably won’t. And they need to recognise Mike McCarthy is their Jim Mora.
Every time I was Montez win with a speed rush around the edge them think about LJ Collier I want to throw up.
Rob one of the guys you liked a couple of years ago Tim Settle has looked really good today.
Another big Seahawks miss that this community would have drafted. It’s truly sad how a small group of hobbyists can identify talent far more effectively than professionals who get paid millions to do it.
Yep, Settle has been good for a while.
Nasty shot on Andy Dalton. Disgraceful.
Bostic needs to get suspended for that hit.
Strap for in for the end of Pit-Ten. I need the fantasy points Tanne!
Man, Ole Miss had DK and AJ Brown and did nothing. At every level football is a QB league
Welp…. good job Titans
Bengals game has been entertaining
Clyde
Edwards
Helaire
https://www.nfl.com/videos/clyde-edwards-helaire-makes-six-defenders-miss-on-strong-td-run
Chiefs actually support their QB.. Russ has to beg for it. Again, so mad with this failure to get AB!! Why did we also not draft a WR in this years amazing WR class!?? All we got Russ was superstar Greg Olsen.
I’d have loved to have drafted a guy like Claypool (after addressing the DE position in free agency), but acting like Wilson lacks weapons is not a rational take.
I’ll tell you what though — I guarantee Wilson is looking at the Chiefs adding Bell and the Buccs adding Brown and thinking ‘hmmmm’.
Not saying he doesn’t have any weapons but they could support him even more. We still need that 3rd option who is dangerous YAC and a possession type of guy. I just think Russ can be even better than what hes been already. He is better than Mahomes in my opinion but doesnt receive the same amount of support.
Mahomes has Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, CEH and Bell — all expensive or high picks.
Wilson has Metcalf, Lockett, Carson and then a collection of reasonable TE’s and Penny who hasn’t really shown enough to warrant a R1.
Meanwhile Brady has an obscene arsenal of weapons.
It’s not that Wilson doesn’t have any support — it’s just that the guys he will compare his situation to have more. And that will piss him off.
Fair, but they have tried at least (Penny) and if Dissly hadn’t had two huge injuries it would look that much better, in all likelihood. Of course, they can always do more.
And it goes back to the Dline too. If they had gotten that done in the off season, maybe they pick up a Claypool or a CEH
But they messed up the D-line and couldn’t.
Which will piss him off too (probably).
Wilson was liking tweets (including one of my own) about skill position players pre-draft.
Ultimately though whether they tried or not won’t matter to Wilson. He wants them to hit on players, not try and hit.
He wants to win.
Mahomes won last year and TB are doing everything Brady wants to try and win this year.
Wilson could easily be looking at this situation and wondering why the hell Seattle hasn’t done more to support him — especially with the defense but also with an extra weapon.
You mean spending big $$ on Finney doesn’t appease the guy? 🤣
I bet anything he has a whatsapp with friends where he takes the piss out of that signing as much as we do.
^ THIS!! Especially after that loss.
Wow, the Cowboys are a dumpster fire at this point…
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/25/mike-mccarthy-questions-cowboys-response-to-jon-bostics-hit-on-andy-dalton/
Haha, this is getting beyond ridiculous. Just trade him already..
Strong power move on twitter… entertainment value is at 11 with this guy.
Watching the hot garbage of Dallas makes me wonder if they would turn and trade Everson Griffin. Their team is going nowhere and could use some money for a Prescott extension even though the contract won’t be as large as originally thought.
That’s a good thought there…
Heck, even Aldon Smith would be an Irvin replacement- not a world beater but a reasonable situational pass rusher option.
He is a world beater compared to anyone we have. Why on earth would they trade him, though? Griffen makes more sense from that standpoint.
Go and get him.
Hell yeah.
At this rate, they are in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes. Prescott who?
I can’t see the Jets winning more than once
Patriots playing like an absolute joke.
Bye week for the Niners.
Yes – the Patriots defense is making the Niners offense look good! I hoped for more of a game.
The Niners offense is good. Challenges you in so many ways. They lose a whole bunch of players and Shanahan just schemes up ways to make it a total non-factor. They are superb.
Next week they better have an answer for all this outside stuff in the running game. They better have an answer for Kittle. And they better score points.
I’m hoping the Seahawks have improved over the bye. They should at least be rested. Should be an interesting comparison between the niners, cardinals and seahawks today.
I agree that the niners offense looks surprisingly strong. And that’s without some of their best players who were injured. Maybe they have better depth than most teams. Of course the Steelers looked strong early in their game and then faded.
It’s Shanahan as I said.
He’s an offensive genius and one of the best coaches in the league.
I’ll also say this — the Seahawks had no answers for San Fran’s offense in week 17 last season. It’ll be a long game next week if they don’t do a lot better.
And yet that game was down to the wire. No Clowney, Carson or Penny that game. Division games are a war
It came down to the wire because of Wilson leading a fourth quarter rally.
Pure and simple.
I think it starts with a plan to limit the damage done by Kittle. If you can’t do that at all, it’s going to be a long day.
You’ve both got to set the edge (same vs the Rams) and defend Kittle.
Which is incredibly difficult when you’re always eyeing the outside zone or a sweep.
Rob couldn’t agree more. Shanahan is to the run game what Andy Reid is the passing game. Others like Payton and McVay and good but Shanahan ans Reid are at a whole other level IMO.
A offensive genius does not blow leads in two superbowls.
Wrong.
That is just silly almost like saying great QBs don’t throw interceptions on then 1yd line with a chance to win they Super Bowl.
A lot went into all those instances than the plays the coaches called.
On Dunlap — Cincy fans are ready to get rid for anything.
I’m starting to wonder if he’ll just be cut.
Works for me.
Yes please
What you’re saying Rob is a team will sign Dunlap that wants to improve their pass rush and defense overall while having a sound, strategic plan to manage their roster. So, he’ll be a Raven.
Watching pats, im thinking the real cam has finally showed up. We saw peak cam week 2, but he hasnt looked good at all since. No touch at all. Not to excuse our terrible defense but this pats team last 2 weeks looks like a bottom 10 team.
On another note, its amazing that edelman has disappeared completely.
Cam is a tremendous athlete, but he’s overrated as a qb.
To be fair, the team has lost multiple practices due to CVOID issues. They have been challenged unlike almost any other team (except Titans) … and to top it off they had large scale roster changes (QB/TE) in the offseason. More or less, it is catching up to them now.
I know the whole let Russ cook thing has been pretty great so far but we saw how well Minnesota controlled the game vs. Seattle when the Hawks tried that approach. I believe in order to beat SF next week, the Hawks need to run the ball a LOT and try to control the clock themselves. Doubt that’s what we’ll see, but the less the 9er offense is on the field the better.
I think there’s only one way for Seattle to play this year — scoreboard pressure.
imo the biggest factor for Minnesota controlling that game was Seattle opening with 4 straight punts
I don’t care whether it is passing, running or a combo of both. They just need to play well and score enough that it makes up for any defensive issues.
Terry McLaurin — always liked him. Always rated him.
Watch this:
https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1320477783995416576
Bet Ron Rivera will be smiling about that for the rest of the day.
His and Jarrad Davis were the best two prospect interviews I have ever seen.
Another guy you were dead on right about, Rob.
Inactive
Iupati
Adams
Rush
Fuller
Willson
Hart
Now that Antonio Brown is a no-go I would see what the price is for Will Fuller.
Just seems like he is perpetually injured though. When the dude is healthy he is awesome, but that seems like less than 50% of the time.
On board with this. I said the same above. And yes he is hurt all the time. But maaaannnn would that guys look good with Lock and DK
lol, wondered that same thing when I read this piece. He’s perfect for what they do and want.
Back in the day…
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/will-fuller-will-enter-the-2016-nfl-draft
I remember you being high on him. He’d make this offense unstoppable.
He can do it all. Just hasn’t been able to stay healthy. But for eight games if the price was right I’d have some of that.
I putting a big circle around the Cowboys as trade targets…..
You remember that guy, Everson Griffen… go get him for a 6th.
It would have to be a 2022 6th round pick. No 6th in 21′
Hum, Aldon Smith and/or Everson Griffen both would look good in Seattle about now…….
…. I see some comments above about both these guys…. I love you guys…. you are thinking what I’m thinking…. How about them Cowboys!
So how has Griffen been playing this year? Haven’t heard much about him since Dallas’ defense is awful!
Around 20 tackles / 1 sack….. but as part of rotation, I’ll take it.
They are using him at OLB, which is not really a strong position for him, he should be a 4-3 DE
You’re kidding! He’s not a LB.
There is a reason why DC Mike Nolan might be shown the door very shortly….
And possibly Mcarthy as well
They should fire the whole staff.
I was just watching the big hit on Dalton… and no one came to defend him on his team or rough up Bostic. Completely unacceptable in a team sport. You might be right, time to fire some fools in the coaching staff.
Until they fire the GM they will continue to be a dumpster fire
Maybe but for all the crap Jerry gets — look at their drafts.
The ‘GM’ and his son have found a franchise QB in round four and UDFA, they’ve built a fantastic OL, hit on numerous early round picks.
They’ve had that team in a lot of 8-8 situations but they’ve also had 13-3 seasons.
They were too loyal to the last coach and picked the wrong replacement — but the Jones’ get undeserved stick overall IMO. They’ve done things that other teams can only dream of. Grabbing Romo then going to Prescott for the grand total price of a R4 is incredible.
Griffen is a smart target. Cowboys obviously going nowhere, Griffen likely really values a chance to go to a playoff team at this point im his career, and there’s still the Pete/USC connection.
lets make it happen.
There was a ton of speculation prior to the season he was interested in coming to Seattle…. not a huge stretch they also wanted him, but were holding out hope for another player.
How bout them Cowboys? *need a Stephen gif, meme, whatever*
* A. Smith
They are sooooooo going to get roasted tomorrow by him… it will be legendary.
Bruce Arians handled the Antonio Brown questions emphatically…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O78SsBgPZc
Ohhhh
Wolf Grays tonight…. 😀
Is it me or do they wear the wolf greys in Arizona a lot?
Man I should have started Justin Herbert today over Josh Allen.
Herbert is looking good, can the chargers challenge the chiefs next year?
That’s the quick start the Seahawks need. Team is full of energy after a bye week.
Perfect drive. Russ looks to be in the “zone” so far.
Theirs your scoreboard pressure Rob!
This offense is so good right now.
Excellent drive.
Something tells me they’ll need to keep their foot on the gas…
That was an ideal opening drive.
*D-line PFF rankings*
75 of 118
73 of 118
51 of 118
80 of 110
Blergh.
Seahawk twitter: Our LBs rated well tho.
After that open drop, good stand by hawks. Lol
Fantastic from Quinton Dunbar
Man I hope he stays healthy.
If he can stay healthy I think he should be extended not Griffin.
Gotta tap that toe old man!
Shame that. Really liked that design on the Olsen throw. And we need him and the TE’s to step up. Unfortunate he just couldn’t get that leg down in bounds.
Thought he had that. Some kind of throw too
This offense is unstoppable when teams can’t get pressure on Russ. Chandler Jones being out is a huge bonus for the Hawks.
We dodged a huge bullet there. Chandler has career days vs us.
Wilson had good pass-pro there. Would like to see the coverage.
Tackle him please Bobby.
What a missed opportunity.
That miss is huge.
You had him! Wrap up!
Wagner has to make that play. $18m.
I hope that number goes down to team friendly in a year.
Bobby has been just average IMO and not nearly playing to the level of the highest paid mlb in history. He needs to pickup its play.
I haven’t seen enough of the other LB’s in the league to judge if he’s only average.
But for $18m a year you expect elite.
He cost them a TD not wrapping up on the third down missed sack.
I would argue that he has not even been the best LB on the Hawks.
Well that much is obvious. K.J. Wright has been Seattle’s best LB so far.
Love seeing Mone dive from behind to make that tackle.
This defense AGAIN.
My god it’s dreadful.
Wagner whiffs on the sack to get off the field. Then Dunbar never gets his head around and has no idea where the ball is on the TD. Another big, huge stonking play against Seattle’s cornerbacks.
Just awful.
Both plays we were in position to make a play and failed.
If you have a chance to sack Murray and end a drive You have to make that play. If not he is so much like Russ in that he will make you pay.
Why is he playing the receivers hand and not the ball? That’s so incredibly frustrating
* hands
Was just thinking as it fell… turn around, turn around, turn around.
He’s right there.
No idea what he was doing.
Kyler Murray is insanely fast. Like 4.3 fast. Hard to defend that.
Not when you’re cradling him in the backfield.
Just in general Murray is uniquely dangerous
The Hawks Over has been a lock all year. Like the easiest bet on the board at Vegas. I thought 55 was low for this game
True that. I took them at -3.5, betting with emotions again…
Why is Chris not getting these carries?
Hyde has been garbage this season
Was just going to ask the same thing.
Nice to see them get the TE involved a little today though.
Trying not to give Carson a reason for the big bucks!
We gotta start involving Metcalf soon, right?
FGs won’t cut it with our Defense.
I don’t want to see Deejay Dallas as a third down target again when you have Metcalf, Lockett, Olsen etc.
GET IN
No idea what Nuk was doing there but thank you VERY much.
Great play by Poona too.
kJ has been so good this year. Clearly we needed to draft his replacement in the first round 🙂 Brook looks pretty good today though at least.
Poona Ford and KJ teaming up. Great spot to recover a fumble.
OL is looking really good
What the HELL was that?
Why aren’t they running Chris?
That’s just insane.
What is Wilson doing???
He rushed to make that throw?!
What a huge gaffe!
Why run him Rob he is only averaging 7 yds per carry?
Horrible play, but insane hustle by DK
Which ends up saving all 7 points, what a play.
Might be my favorite play of the season so far. Not kidding. Awesome stuff from DK.
Dear Pete,
Run. The. Ball.
Thanks.
The 12s.
Great read and play by Brooks
Jordyn Brooks!
That knifing tackle from him across the field is what stood out most to me on his tape.
He has looked real sharp so far today. That’s a good sign.
That DK rundown plus the fourth down stop? This team has grit.
That hustle by DK got him more respect from me than any catch he has made. Huge props for a kid that talented to also show grit like that is huge and I am sure his team mates love it,
Monumental play
114 yards
22.6 mph
That’s why you never, ever give up on a play. DK saved us a TD. And what a special play from Jordyn Brooks.
And credit to the defense for a great goal line stand
Carson’s got to be hurt, right?
Don’t laugh at me too hard, but I’m surprisingly impressed with this defensive performance so far. This the best half of defense for the season by far right?
Not to give the front office a pass for this clear liability, but wanted to give the players credit for performing!
We have to credit them for the stop and the turnover.
It’s just a shame they can’t cut out the huge, glaring errors.
I’m able to cheer for them. They play hard, and occasionally make good plays. In some sense it feels like it’s not entirely their fault that they aren’t good enough.
Ughhhhhh
Lewis down. Finney time?
Oh no!!
Lewis.
Please be cramps
This stadium gives me anxiety, win or lose horrible shit happens here.
Looks like Lewis took a helmet to the knee running full speed.
Hopefully it’s just painful because that sounds painful.
That dk play is why petes teams are always good. That is the intangible and positivity stuff that keeps showing up every year
Russell looks jittery for no reason.
Jesus, it’s a good job Al Micheals hasn’t been allowed to referee tonight from the booth.
Clearly in.
he keeps trying to jinx myers
The Special Teams and kickers have been ridiculously good so far and another big reason we are 5-0
I enjoyed watching everyone in the stadium except him treat the play as a td.
Like how they went on and in about the Cardinals stopping us in droves in the red zone that weren’t actually IN the red zone?
That block from DK on the TD run was monstrous. Wished more stuff like that was graded & put in the box score
Should be a BAMF column
Honestly I think there’s a case to be made that Russ and DK are our most important players so far this season.
Why is hyde getting carries lol nice run
Neal looks like a legit player so far. He keeps showing up each week.
Dear defense,
If you’re going to give up a score here, do it quickly so the offense has a chance to respond.
Arizona gets the ball to start the second half.
Dear Rob,
Duly noted.
Note if they only did everything you said
Might get your wish Rob. Wow they are bad.
Blitzing the corner on Hopkins side doesn’t seem wise
My god this defense is totally, utterly, horribly USELESS.
“Legion of Boom 2.0”
Horrible…
49ers are able to do much better on defense with star players missing…
Your 2020 seahawk defense. Ugh
But Stephan Sullivan might be ready to play DE next week, so we’re good
Do not resign Shaq for anything less than average. Maybe not at all
What is the heck is Griffen doing
Pete must want to throw up after every win watching this defense. This group is unrecognizable as a Pete Carrol defense,
Someone is going to give Griffin way too much money.
Nothing is going to fix this defense is it?
They aren’t fixing this with a 31-year-old malcontent DE.
They just blew it in March.
Nope.
Unfortunately, Wagner is in decline and our corners can’t cover as well as we thought they could.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1320537210475683840
DK is fast
Wow.
What a throw.
And what a truly incredible catch.
Lockett’s doing great today!!!! Loving Russell’s rushing also. Lots of good plays going on.
133 receiving yards on 8 catches for Lockett.
Lockett is killing peterson
Chris Carson hurt then, as we thought.
Man he is so talented, so good — yet always a game away from another injury.
I’m just not sure they can live without him and let him walk. He’s too good.
I’m curious how much would you pay him. He’s great but should we spend big money on an RB?
Not big money.
But I can’t imagine life without him either.
The tag is about $10.2mil for RB. Would you pay like $11mil/yr to keep him?
Maybe 6 7 million? But i think he would get lots more in FA
Carson is hurt
That was sexy!
43 seconds left.
Predictions?
Strip sack recovery TD by Collier.
Our offense is so good right now. Luckily they are a little bette than our defense is awful.
75 yds in 3 plays! Insane.
Peterson is like, ‘What do I even do? Cant play this any better?’
127 rushing yards
250 passing yards
27 points
In a half.
It’s crazy how fast the game has got this fast hasn’t it Rob? I’m honestly just…IDK what to think.
The game has definitely changed.
It always adapts and moves and there are trends. Happens in most sports. We’re seeing a big one in the NFL right now.
True. From that, to the type of athletes were seeing (NBA was my 1st love), it’s amazing, just w/ this particular game here, I’m not sure I was ever gonna see it get like this. Or ready to. Not 100% anyways.
377 yds of offense in a half is pretty good right? If teams can’t pressure Russ they have no shot against this group.
*pressure russ with 4 man rush. He is great against blitzing too.
Lockett > AB in football and in life.
It will be an absolute shame if they don’t make an effort to fix this Pass Rush before the trade deadline. It might not be possible, but they sure need to aquire someone, because it’s definitely ugly.
I just think it’s so bad that you’re not going to get the dynamism they need. They need a game-wrecker to make up for this disaster zone.
Are they going to give up another long TD here FFS?
I laughing at how bad it is.
At this point, i think letting russ cook was more about distracting fans from the failed defense. PC was like, russ throw another deep one.
Shaquem is utterly useless as a pass rusher.
Yep
Yes. It’s upsetting me he is in
This defense is so horrible all it needs is 30sec to lose the game.
“Seahawks’ RB Chris Carson is questionable to return with a foot injury”
Please be a temporary thing. And we need Penny back badly.
Questionable sounds like less severe. I want him available all season please.
I really don’t want to see Shaquem play any more defensive snaps.Nice story.fine special teams player.but he shouldn’t be on the field.i know Moore and Robinson are like D- players,but Shaquem is like F-.just awful.great story though.but I’m over it
He’s so bad. Losing Irvin was really a terrible loss that we didn’t think about as much as we should have.
Watching this game makes it even clearer how the seahawk NEED to go all in tbis season. These receivers are special, this offense is special, and the defense might be fixable!
Rob, is there that much added value by keeping this year’s 2nd and 4th/5th instead of rolling the dice on some d line help?
For the right player I would trade that R2.
However, they have to replace some guys on the cheap next year and they can’t just write-off 2021.
So if they deal that R2 it better be someone really good with club control for at least 2021 if not 2022.
I’m struggling to think of someone who fits the bill.
1 pass rusher wont make this defense great or good. We all know that here. But I’ll take whelming or meh defense over this pukefest. So trade that 2nd rdr or any late pick for anything resembling decent. Decent pass rusher will still be a ridiculous upgrade.
I’m gonna disagree. It almost hurts to see how bad this team is screaming out for a pass rusher on 3rd & long.
I think we agree then that we need a pass rusher. Unless youre saying 1 pass rusher makes this d great?
Don’t need to make them great, just average. They do some things well, but are wildly inconsistent. Some consistent qb pressure, so they don’t have all day to throw, could help prevent some of the huge plays downfield and create even more turnovers.
Not great, they just need to be good. And I think w/ 1, plus Adams coming back, they become very good.
I second this. You can juice this entire defense if you give our secondary more freedom to act.
Tyler Lockett’s face when David Moore came back celebrating there was a picture.
That should’ve been downed at the one-yard-line. Fair catch it please, David.
We got away with one there. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. This team needs a lot of that luck.
Where the hell is DK? Why does he disappear for such long stretches?
Also why is Lockett dropping so many balls?
That was a tough catch, good coverage, risky throw by Wilson.
Wasn’t just that play
The past 2 games it seemed like it was Lockett who was invisible for long stretches… today it’s DK.
Seems like they should at least throw one of those screens to him so he can run with the ball.
Hopkins was wide open there
Tackle him come on
Bullshit call
That’s a TERRIBLE flag on Wagner. Joke.
They’re ruining the game with stuff like that. What the hell are they thinking there???
Awful
Just ridiculous.
You just know they’re gonna score now, too.
I…just. 🤷♂️
Bobby sometimes make these dumb plays on 3rd downs…
He could’ve avoided it.
But it wasn’t a penalty.
“Uhh…I agree with you Chris…”
Still..it’s totally avoidable. You are about to get off field and with the defense you have there is zero threshold…
That was unbelievable
It’s pretty clear the offense is going to have to keep scoring.
I hope, as the announcers suggested, the Arizona defense hasn’t found something with blitzing and tight man coverage.
Im done with flowers experiment. Can we try anyone on the PS?
My word this defense.
Yes Chris Collinsworth, they need a signature guy. A Jadeveon Clowney guy.
You have been right all offseason Rob. Anyone coming on here to criticize you is a total clown.
Well, they still do.
Preach it chris!
You know you are in rough shape when Collinsworth calls out your problems…
Tackling is dreadful.
BS tackling…
So this drive should’ve been a safety but for a missed sack, should’ve been a punt but for the terrible flag and then the defense just melted like it usually does.
They are going to lose a game they have no business losing eventually and it’ll be 100% on the defense.
And itll be a game like this where the offense looks unstoppable and because they cant score 40, they will lose.
How many 90+ yard drives have we allowed this year so far?
Then the reality sets in that we can still lose this…quite easily.
3rd and semi-long. smh
Up 27-17. At halftime. Put it away!
AZ should thank the refs for the gift wrapped td drive with wagner call.
What happened to Diggs? He has been absolutely awful this year
The lions traded him away for a fifth round pick.
He’s better than Tedric Thompson. But he’s not good.
Collier is utterly worthless as a pass rusher. John Schneider lost all of his credibility when he drafted him. After passing on Montez Sweat…
Let Diggs go. Blair’s job next year
1st and 20.
No problem on this defense.
Ken Norton is awful… when your team is awful in tackling you know who..
He may well be awful.
But the personnel is equally awful, if not worse.
They had a better defense in 2018 and were nowhere near this bad.
None of the front four guys can get home. Can’t have good defense if you can’t put pressure on the qb.
This quarter has been crap. Seahawks fell asleep
I just don’t understand the inconsistency with calling holding calls…for either side.
It’s amazing really.
Seahawks have done so much on offense but one scoreless quarter with this defense and suddenly it’s a three-point game.
Come on Russ
And now waste a timeout.
*sigh*
I’m starting to worry this is the week.
DK Metcalf — 1 target so far
But two runs to Travis Homer back-to-back
WHERE IS DK
DK was wide open. Awful placement by Russ.
I’ll stop bringing this up because theres no way to change it, but this is why we need an AB. We will only win if we put up points!
Hopefully we make a move at WR this week or DLine. But hopefully some move is made.
The defense is bad for sure, but the refs have suddenly ruined this game.
So wagner gets a dumb pf call, but a legit helmet to helmet goes unnoticed on us. Thanks.
What an awful throw. After a terrible play call.
I don’t understand that sequence.
Two runs by Homer and then a stupid interception.
Jeeze Russ
Russell FFS
What is he doing?
Why is ‘letting him cook’ leading to really, really stupid interceptions?
A minimum of 6 pts off the board from stupid throws by Russ. Sometimes he has the worst brain farts
Thats 2 bad red zone picks… 6 points swing at least.. come on Russ..did you see your team defense play!
Russ wants to pad those 4th quarter comebacks again.
For as good as russ has been today he’s blowing this game
Offense needed to keep scoring, clearly.
0 points in the second half.
FFS the Seahawks should just let Arizona score here. We don’t need a long 7 minute to drive from Kyler.
Russ! Come on. Keep taking time off the clock.
Well, thank you Kyler Murray.
Do not waste that GIFT.
DIGGS
Back to Back interceptions. Diggs was so open I thought he was on the Cardinals team.
DK still can’t high-point, can he?
He’s been overhyped so far. Not a complete receiver yet.
He shouldve came back, he wouldve caught peterson out of position. Peterson wasnt trying to play the ball.
Yea – that was a God awful throw.
What even are we watching…
I miss carson
The offense just doesn’t function as well without him.
That’s a great point.
Is Hyde hurt too.. anytime we see Homer on 1st and 2nd down you can assume offense is stinking..
There we go. F**k
When’s the last time this offense scored? First half?
Dumb time out..yet again.
We need 7 here ..if you are going to cling on to 3 point lead…good luck winning this game
Seriously Russ… I don’t want to hear anymore about him calling his own plays and whatever. Get some control man
Those graphics lol
This has turned into a pretty ugly game to watch
Russell has been trending in the wrong direction for several games now. Still amazing, obviously – but his first 3 games have kind of masked what has been some very up and down play over the last 3.
Need a td.
These refs are a joke.
Call the TD and let it be overturned if needed.
And they better overturn this on challenge because it’s a clear TD.
Who the hell changed the call?
Larry fitz.
What a joke of reffing tonight. Should be overturned with an apology and a gaurenteed make up call. But im bias soooo…..
The awful calls have been incredibly one sided.
Seriously. This is about as bad a performance as I’ve seen this year
The back judge who was there signaled a TD!
Officials are being real one sized in this one
With this and the Wagner call, I get the sense they are trying to keep this game close. Seattle are playing more than Arizona out there.
This is one of the worst officiated game this season..of all I watched.
Bad call missed call bad calll….keeps getting worse. NFL can’t have this on prime time…
A rule change I’d like to see: any play where an official signals touchdown is considered a ‘scoring play’ and is automatically reviewed, even if that call is changed.
The official in the best postion called it a TD
😂😂 he got that. Holy s**t!
What. A. Catch
That is unbelievably brilliant by Tyler Lockett.
Lockette in baby.
Lockett*****
Please, defense.
Just get a stop.
Here come 90sec defense
It’s all just so easy.
Barnwell tweeted that Isaiah Simmons has two snaps tonight. Yeesh what’s going on there?
Wow
What are Arizona doing here?
They need points, not to desperately get this one yard.
How much time did they waste trying to covert for that one yard?
Yeah, was wondering why they didn’t seem to have any sense of urgency
No kidding!
What are they doing?
Why not just throw to Hopkins? We can’t possibly cover him.
A lot
They probably want to tick down the clock cause they have 3 timeouts still and trust getting a td and stopping our run game
Thinking the same thing but hey let them
That’s a shame, I respect how Drake has stepped his game up since being given a shot with AZ
Thinking the same thing but hey let them
You can never relax watching this defense.
Remember when a 10 pt lead was a gaurentee blowout win for us and our d???
Unless its the superbowl
27-17 used to be a final score
Is there a limit on how many injury time outs you can have?
Well done special teams.
What is Mayowa doing?
What an idiot.
Mayowa u dumbass
Mayowa = you idiot. And I know what his tackling problem is – he tackles around the shoulders.
Pete…dumb dumber dumbest…
Is this a Make-a-Wish situation with the officials?
What is Mayowa doing!? 4th & 12 🤦♂️
Of course it’s a defensive lineman making a stupid mistake, allowing the defense to give up an easy TD with a missed tackle to boot at the end.
Cut Mayowa. Hurts the team more than he helps.
Bobby and Mayowa costed 14 points… on top of the worst defense ever.
Now would be a great time for DK to wake up.
So many dumb mistakes in this game.
I don’t trust Seattle to finish this.
Im getting used to the mental mistakes
Should be an interesting headline out of this game!!!!!
Az 4 TOs. Get ready for more seahawk defense.
Please don’t call it an easy conversion, Chris.
PS — run a bootleg Wilson run again or a read option.
No problem for the Seahawks – if they can run the ball. So far = so good. I do like Hyde, and RW is killiing them with rushes.
Let’s go Hyde. Falls on you
Why give up that cutback?
get ready for the fade bomb that Russ likes to throw in these moments
I can’t believe that third down call.
How do you not involve Wilson on a RPO or something.
Knew they were going w/ Hyde there, but that run?
Just cowardly.
Jesus
In their defense, we have all bitched about the long third down passes that were incomplete and stopped the clock. At least the clock ran down to 52 seconds.
How has it come down to the defense needing to make a stop.
This is a nightmare.
The defense sucks – but the offense isn’t helping them at all.
Ugh
Pathetic playcalling from Schotty. Just pathetic
We deserve to lose this one
It’s just TOO EASY.
This one would live as one of the Pete’s worst games…
The Seahawks deserve to lose this game.
Too many stupid mistakes.
Terrible
What’s the point of having Pete Carroll as HC? Seriously.
The super bowl win, the over 100 total wins, come now…you’re being a little bit “tiwtter-ish”…
Oh Lordy – we are going to overtime.
The glass isn’t half full – it isn’t half empty.
The glass is broken and shattered into 53 pieces.
Mayowa, this is mostly on you
What a great signing John Schneider! Most overrated GM in the NFL.
You’d be nothing, NOTHING, without Russell, John.
Geno coming through in the clutch once again.
I swear that man sold his soul…he’s too far above average for winning coin tosses lol
Here we go. Here we go.
Good lord..if Cards had onetime out could have won…
You can’t be any worse going with all youth on the defense than playing shit loads of money to those vets.
If you want to be MVP Russ, here is another moment to do it. Go and finish the game
Man, if carson wasnt hurt that last drive.
Sack right on que.
This is how u lose.
Russell…just get rid of it, dude.
Come on attack them FFS.
Wilson is always dreadful when a team shows all out blitz.
He sees ghost when its all out.
You failed russ.
Well…this could be the start of a journey to .500.
How the hell is the defense going to stop them getting about 30 yards to win.
What a mess.
Looks like game. Blame it on the d all you want but the offense holds just as much blame
Plenty of blame for everyone.
Ugh – Offense isn’t performing either. They couldn’t run it for a first down, they couldn’t throw it for a first down.
They had em on 3rd & 5 there. Had the coverage they wanted & everything
Did I really stayed up for this s.ht? RW didn’t play like an MVP and the defense sucks
We knew the defence was poor. I know Carson is out, I know Ifedi has returned but this OT is on Russ. Throw it away. We can only hope for miracles now. So glad I am here at 4am for this!
What a horrible way to lose. This defense is ridiculous
Heres that loss we were all waiting for
This is exactly the loss we expected this year. Hopefully motivate FO to get a deal done this week.
Russ concussed or Schotty concussed? They are playing like there is Aaron Donald and Mack on face… cards have zero pass rush just like us yet…
The only positive I can think of from tonight, there are no excuses not to get help for this defence now. Even a blind man can see it.
Go Hawks!!! Our Team is 5-0 so we dont have to do anything right!??
This loss is just demoralizing. And again! NICE JOB SIGNING AB!
Oh man… Spoke to soon. But we need to make a trade!
No words.. Schotty had no answers for cards D. They had zero margin for error with that D …
2 Russ picks and 2 dumb D penalties….. 20 free points swing.
Another 500 yard day for the defense. Pathetic.
Pathetic.
Great start to our big 5 game span.
Oh that’s funny. Arizona screwed by their own timeout.
The rare self freeze
This is still a loss. I dont care what bs happens.
Totally agree.
But still hoping for another lucky win
Holy cow…this team is just a straight mirage…yet they continue to pull things out. Just unreal.
I don’t even know what to say right now.
A 3-3 team that is somehow gonna be 6-0.
I dont trust anything anymore.
This stadium man, weird shit happens here.
Was thinking the same thing. This whole game is unreal
Wilson’s all over the place.
Arizona has absolutely spooked him. What was that checkdown???
That was never on. Throw it away.
Russ concussed I guess
Unreal!
I LITERALLY CALLED IT. He’s been drifting left allllll night.
Iced their own kicker!
Lucky that wasn’t a pick 6
If a Cat has 9 lives, how many lives does a Sea Hawk have?
Russ, stop pussyfooting around and throw it.
Deejay almost got Russ killed.
Wilson is exhausted and we seem to have run out of plays.
They need DK here
Russ got drilled
Arizona is blitzing freely. Up to 6 guys at a time.
This loss is 100% on russ
Enough of mvp talk. Great player still. But mvp talk week 15, not 6
Nooooo!!
Russell has been awful outside of 3 throws.
WTF
We were right.
Seahawksdraftblog was right
That russ would lose the game for us
Idk what you’re talking about
We lost because we have the worst pass rush in the nfl
The pushed it even farther today. Instead of no sacks/pressure + HUGE totally unnecessary penalty on a field goal.
So you didn’t watch the game then? The pass rush is bad but russ made multiple bad play in scoring position
No one there.
Damn man
DK had that too
That was a tough interception. I like their game better when they were mixing passes and runs.
From my POV it was a weird and bad throw by Russ
He was expecting a blitz and they dropped coverage. They were in his head all 2nd half.
None of the receivers anticipated the pass. I think somebody ran the wrong route.
RW doesn’t deserve MVP. Such stupid mistakes…wow…
This team is not winning another game until Philadelphia.
Russ is not the MVP.
Well that sucks. A winnable game – pissed away.
Russ was bad. Sign a pass rusher. Goodnight
Good thing Carroll loves games like this…
Good job ARI. You made Russ Wilson look like a dumbass
Expect lots of blitzing going forward russ.
Tough sledding from here out. Could be one and done in the playoffs again. Hope this motivates them to make a move because there is absolutely no pass rush. Every Seahawks fan defending the front office this offseason is a blithering idiot.
Poor Lockett…only guy dressed up tonight (maybe DK too). I’m pissed. It’s 5:15 am gotta get up soon and was stay up for this s.htstorm
Good. Stop pretending. You cant ignore 1/3 of the game. And russ cant save you every week. Stop being blind about your team. Dumb mistakes all game.
The defense was consistent at least. Team just doesn’t have enough against a good opponent to win if Russ isn’t on his A-game. Refs definitely affected momentum and the mental side that comes with it. Russ was handed the ball to win several times tonight and didn’t get it done. It’s just how the season will be.
“We don’t need another weapon like AB. AB would just be the third WR anyway”
“Rob- why are you always so negative. Hawks perfect 5-0. Team is great. No changes are needed”
^ Facepalm to these types of comments. That was a demoralizing loss.
Another play they had, taken away from a flag. 3 huge 1’s. Mayowa’s, the false start, and the hold. Even w/ Russ’s picks. Last 1 is all on him.
Not one to bitch about refs but the bs call on Wagner on 3rd down really changed the game and let Arizona back into it.
Having a average pass rush maybe that call doesn’t matter. Really need to go and get someone.
To the people putting it on russ… what the ever loving hell? Russ was incredible most of the game.
Did you seriously not watch how anemic the pass rush was? How absolutely dreadful the playcalling was at the end of the game AGAIN? DJ Dallas allowing Russ to get absolutely smoked on that last drive?
Russ is still MVP. This defense is honestly so awful.
Disagree. Russ had a couple incredible throws today; otherwise he wasn’t seeing the game very well. 3 of the worst interceptions I’ve ever seen from him.
He hasn’t been very good the last few games.
No way Russ can win an MVP with this defense
He can. If anything he needs more weapons on offense. The offense is impotent without Carson. I am all for letting Russ Cook but they were like throwing every down at one point. We need more weapons. DK was shut down this game.
They blew a 10 point lead with 5 minutes left. The offense can only win so many games; even with more weapons. This defense proved today offense alone can’t win every game. If we do get in the playoffs it will cost us a top seed. this defense as is will make for another early exit as well.
I agree. This team needs to fix the defense if we really want to make a SB. Was just saying that Russ could still win an MVP if he had more weapons. Like Lamar Jackson was great last year and won the award but they were out real quick in the playoffs.
we need a new d coordinator. I know its Pete’s d, but having Arizona march down 4 times last 4 drives is ridiculous along with a new d coordinator, a new d as well. they better try and acquire someone before the trade deadline
We just don’t have the talent. And now we don’t have the draft picks. John Schneider is a disaster.
drunk off their own success. lets hope they can acquire some bodies. at this point it might be worth trading away next years draft
Blame this loss first on mowaya for that bone headed penalty that led to the TD instead of a fg. But secondly Russ gifted them 3 turnovers. Those three passes are just horrible and inexcusable.
Talk about costly penalties! How many were there in the 4th qtr. & OT that cost us the game? And do we never learn any lesson? We continue to try and get cute and pass instead of running at the 2 or 3 yard line. Baker int. the first time, just like in Miami week 4 and with J. Kearse ending up with nothing 50 times passing to him over and over deep in the red zone for years. Like they said after the SB loss, RUN The Damn Ball!
Cards figured out Hawks Offense. Schotty had no answers and some of the dumbest play calls and execution.
Cards D is no better than Hawks D players wise yet they could take down Russ and Co.
Vance Joseph vs Ken decided the winner tonight.
– worst officiating
– dumb plays on offense and defense
– defense less said better. Everyone can take 50% pay cut
– there is no need for a DE trade. One and done in playoffs regardless
– Let Russ Cook gone too far. Carson’s pay doubled tonight. This offense can’t do a shit without running game
Tyler came to play! Too bad everything else had tons of flaws – D as usual, play-calling, costly penalties, OL getting Russ creamed several times, Russ getting int. 3 times, injuries to Carson and Griffin. We were at least 10 points up at least twice after halftime, and gave it away. Only great player was Tyler – he had 200 yds. 3 TDs and don’t follow fantasy, but saw he had a score in the 50s, never seen that for a WR, QB or at all as far as I can remember. When was the last time a WR had 200 yds. in a game?