The final pre-draft podcast

Don’t forget to check out today’s final mock draft — but here’s the final pre-draft podcast.

A couple of other quick points…

Russell Okung, James Carpenter, Bruce Irvin. The Seahawks have been comfortable with their first round picks only lasting one contract.

That doesn’t mean they want these guys to only stay 4-5 years and move on — but it also doesn’t necessarily mean they need to be 10-year starters either.

The Seahawks are in the middle of a Championship window that might only last another 3-4 years. Getting impact players to try and win a Championship now is the key.

A guy who comes in, helps make that happen and then signs somewhere else isn’t a problem (especially with the comp pick system).

How does that impact this draft? Well when people talk about Bronson Kaufusi’s age (25) — if he’s only playing for Seattle for four years it doesn’t really matter.

And it’s worth noting Russell Wilson was 24 in 2012. I’m not 100% all-in on Kaufusi being a Seahawk — but he could be a wildcard for them after trading down. Check out his tape vs Utah.

Meanwhile Mike Mayock has put together his first and only mock draft. He pairs the Seahawks with A’Shawn Robinson, who they probably won’t draft because he’s a marginal athlete, not a pass rusher and his motor runs too hot and cold.

The interesting thing though is like Louis Riddick’s mock earlier in the week — all of Seattle’s VMAC visitors are on the board. Jonathan Bullard, Vernon Butler, Kevin Dodd, Germain Ifedi, Reggie Ragland, Chris Jones, Derrick Henry. Kaufusi and Noah Spence are also available.

Again — this screams trade down.

115 Comments

  1. Seahawcrates

    I don’t think Seattle needs their early guys to be two-contract picks either. In part because they have faith and a record of also getting their core multiple contract guys in later rounds. Kam, KJ, Richard, Lane, Baldwin or as bargain free agents, Cliff, Bennett.
    I think their beliefand the reality that they out draft and out analyze the league allows them to pick guys early who don’t HAVE to be seven or eight year guys.

  2. Scraps

    Argh! If I have a definite opinion on this draft, it’s DON’T draft Robinson! FORTUNATELY, I know that Seattle is extremely unlikely to do that — and “expert” Mayock doesn’t know that, which means I can’t trust his mock as far as the teams involved — just the players (which I can trust him on that? I don’t know).

  3. Shadow

    If they draft Robinson with those guys left on the board…?

    I know it probably won’t happen, but I would be sick if it did.

    • Steele

      Why would anybody be surprised? A Shawn and LeRaven Clark are exactly the kind of WTF? ideas that JSPC would go for. Precisely because they like going against popular opinion and have confidence in their own evals.

      • 12er

        Robinson is seen as a first round prospect by a lot of media personalities so it would not be seen as a surprise for the media or average football fans. However most of us on the blog know better, or at least should know better. I would be shocked if it happened.

      • GeoffU

        Not exactly, they trust in their process but they’re not contrarians just to be contrarians, and it’s hard to see anything special or Seahawky about Robinson or Clark. Quite the opposite really. Plus, if people are mocking them to us, then wouldn’t that be the popular opinion?

      • C-Dog

        Part of me wonders what Robinson would be like as a one gapper, instead of two gapping. He’s a pretty athletic dude. I can understand if Saban’s system didn’t allow him to play to his strengths a lot of the time, but it’s the turning it on and off thing that gives me pause. It seems like a bit of a trend with a lot of these young talented junior DTs, Jones, Nkemdiche, Ridgeway gets accused of that. Guys like Rankins, Butler, Reed, Bullard, Johnson, you’re not going to spend any time worrying about that.

      • Eran-Ungar

        Steele, you are missing the main point about the Seahawks when you say “they like going against popular opinion and have confidence in their own evals.”

        It’s not the “evals” that they have confidence in, it’s the coaching.

        They have the confidence that they created the type of coaching strategy that will take “coach-able” talents and make them into valuable cogs in their machine. Being able to properly coach college players into NFL players plays as big a part in the end product as the basic talent they get in the draft.

        This has been a cornerstone in the Seahawks building philosophy since this new FO took over and it makes JS the draft genius he is.

      • Rob Staton

        Le’Raven Clark maybe. A’Shawn Robinson is the complete opposite of what the Seahawks have gone for.

        How would taking Robinson go against popular opinion? The national guys love him. He’s extremely overrated. Not a great athlete, not a pass rusher. Not a Seahawk.

  4. Greg Haugsven

    I agree, it won’t be a run stuffing DT and it won’t be a CB

  5. sdcoug

    I’m gonna stake my reputation on the guarantee Seattle will not take a QB in Round 1.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Truly bold words. 😀

      • sdcoug

        Any other proclamation with this FO would be foolish hahaha

        • Brian

          They won’t take a kicker or long snapper in the first round either.

  6. Mark

    Rob, Whatever comes in the draft tomorrow, I’d like to say a big thank you for your work on the blog. I look forward to your articles and it’s the only sports site I read religiously. NFL Mock Draft 3000 is great, too. Kudos to you for the exposure you’re getting this year on American radio.

    • GeoffU

      Double thanks, Rob. And I’d like to add you sound like a natural on the Radio. Very respectful and knowledgeable. You sound like a true pro!

      • Rob Staton

        Thanks Geoff

    • Steve Nelsen

      Your blog is a daily read for me (actually several times a day). I enjoy the many thoughtful commenters and your thought-provoking articles. For draft fans it doesn’t get any better than what you’ve created here Rob. Thank you.

      • Rob Staton

        Thanks Steve

    • Gotta Be Bennett to Win It

      When I come home from a long day at work, put my kids to bed, and open up the laptop to relax and read something, your site has been the first site I go to since the first day I found out about your blog (late January). Thank you so much for the intelligent insight. Unlike the “draft experts” who write/say the first thing that comes into their heads, you look at past results and analyze patterns.

      Based on your analysis, I feel confident that there’s no way the Seahawks draft Nkemdiche, A.Robinson, Ogbah, or any of the other players constantly mocked to Seattle who do not live and breathe football like ALL the players the Seahawks have drafted before.

      Thanks for the hundreds of hours of hard work, Rob!

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man

  7. 12er

    4-5 years is an eternity in the NFL. If they think an older prospect in an impact player who can make a contribution right away, why not draft him early on?

  8. John T

    Another major thank you Rob. Enjoy reading your blog regularly. You generally have better takes than many of the so-called “pros”. Here s to a good Seahawks season starting tomorrow!

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks John

  9. bankhawk

    Rob, is it possible to post a link for your Frosty Mahler guest spot from a couple of days ago? Id sure like to give a listen to that one! Thanks for all youve done in the run up to the draft this year, and the other usual suspects at the site as well!

  10. C-Dog

    Final simulated mock. Man, those things are addictive, especially meshed with this site. Thanks Rob, for all the work, and thoughtful insight. I spend way too much time on this blog, but it’s worth it for me as a dire hard fan since ’76. Been following it for years, just started posting in the community during the last season. IMO, it’s the best site for anything Seahawks related. Nothing is more exciting that building a team through the draft.

    It sure feels like the Seahawks are primed to trade back. I would kind of be a bit stunned if they didn’t. The one player I feel Seattle would stay at 26 for, if available, would be Vernon Butler. They showed heavy interest at the Senior Bowl, the evening before his pro day, and the VMAC visit. I think they potentially see a 3 down player out of him with a ton of upside, thinking his pass rush will evolve beyond just being a disruptive force at the next level with coaching, and from the help he will get from the vets around him. He’d come in, work hard, and take pointers from Bennett and Avril. Problem is there is probably going to be a team ahead of Seattle seeing the same exact thing.

    Funny things happen in the draft. Players go higher than many project, and players slide. This mock is admittedly a HIGHLY hopeful one, as many favorites on this board are included, but I think there’s a chance some of these guys could go around these spots.

    I’m probably in the minority on this one, but I think there’s a chance Ifedi could slide. He seems to be a continual polarizing player. Personally, I think he’d be fine at the next level with proper coaching and patience, and I would be fine if Seattle did take him at 26, but with his feet, the lunging, early jumping, so so pass protection, and a demeanor may come across as a bit on the soft side, he seems to me like a guy who could find himself as a day 2 pick.

    Fackrell is another one that honestly seems kind of R3 to me. He’s long and athletic, seems to put himself is sound position, but plays kinda high, doesn’t seem like the most punishing tackler, it wouldn’t shock me to see him available at 90, but if he is, it would shock me if Seattle passed on him.

    McGovern is the one that is real wishful thinking to be at 97, but again, I think there is a chance. Glowinski was thought of as a R3 pick last year and lasted deep into R4, like McGovern tested high in the TEF last year.

    Killebrew might go R4, with a bit of a slow combine 40, and would be great value there.

    I suspect Seattle to take RB earlier, but if Ifedi, Fackrell, McGovern, and Killebrew are sitting at their picks, I can see them understandably passing. IMO, Pressley could be a really good back for Seattle, he’s fast, a good inside runner, and rarely fumbled in college.

    Worley makes sense at corner. Boehringer is a project player they might use a late round pick on, and personally, I like Vitale as an athletic FB who can add to the passing game

    26: R1P26
    DT VERNON BUTLER
    LOUISIANA TECH

    56: R2P25
    OT GERMAIN IFEDI
    TEXAS A&M

    90: R3P27
    OLB KYLER FACKRELL
    UTAH STATE

    97: R3P34
    G CONNOR MCGOVERN
    MISSOURI

    124: R4P26
    S MILES KILLEBREW
    SOUTHERN UTAH

    171: R5P32
    RB JHURELL PRESSLEY
    NEW MEXICO

    215: R6P40
    CB DARYL WORLEY
    WEST VIRGINIA

    225: R7P4
    WR MORITZ BOEHRINGER
    GERMANY

    247: R7P26
    FB DAN VITALE
    NORTHWESTERN

    • Volume12

      Your the only other guy, besides me, that had Killebrew in his mock.

      I think his tape turned people off, but he’s got the athleticism and character that Seattle enjoys coaching up and developing.

      • C-Dog

        Yeah, I think a lot of folks kinda moved on from him, but I keep thinking about him. If Seattle trades back for more picks, I think it increases the chances of him becoming a Hawk. I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes one, maybe even around pick 97. I can see them looking for a player to become the heir apparent to Kam, maybe serve as some form of death backer.

        • Volume12

          I don’t think he goes higher than round 4.

          Ya gotta keep in mind, it’s extremely rare for 4-5 guys that play the same position to go in each round. Teams will bypass that need and come back in a later round and address it.

          With O-lineman it’s common, because teams panic due to the lack of quality guys coming out.

          My mock is a mix. Some picks are guys they showed interest in recently, other picks are gutys we’ve talked about and indentified back in October, December, Janruary during the All-star games, and February with the combine

      • Kenny Sloth

        Getting lots of interest from the Browns

        • C-Dog

          I think if the Steelers don’t do something in R1 at safety, he could be a target down the line there as well. I think he’s going to be a good player at the next level. As Volume 12 said, his issues can be coached up.

          • Kenny Sloth

            Brown’s had their LB coach at his pro day. Makes sense with the slow fourty

    • Saxon

      I’d be THRILLED with this draft, although I might change the Pressley pic as I’m not sure he wants to run between the tackles. Doubt Ifedi will fall that far, but would be much more comfortable taking him there than at #26. Killerbrew is a poor mans Chancellor who can get better. A very optimistic draft in terms of players sliding but would be stoked if it worked out like this.

  11. DC

    You definitely enrichen the draft experience (year round) Rob and combined with the community here shed light on so many players that I groan throughout the actual draft when guys who have been discussed go off the board. Lots of fun, many thanks.
    I’ll be offline tomorrow, so here is my “official” no trades Seahawks’ draft.

    1. Kevin Dodd, DL, Clemson
    2. Conner McGovern, OL, Missu
    3a. Jordan Howard, RB, Indiana
    3b. Joe Haeg, OT, NDST
    4. Stephen Weatherly, LB, Vandy
    5. Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU
    6. Rees Odhiambo, OL, Boise St
    7a. Luther Maddy, DT, VTech
    7b. Hakeem Valles, TE, Monmouth

    Favorite player in this draft is Shon Coleman. This 2016 class is gonna be one of our favorites looking back! Thanks everyone for contributing and happy drafting!

    • dtrain

      Rob, great year…again! I come here almost every day to get my fix and you and the faithful never disappoint. I’ll take m y shot at a “perfect Hawk” draft;

      1t Trade back into early 2nd, gain late 3rd/early 4th

      2t Jonathan Bullard (DL) I think they would rather have Butler or Spence, but they will sette on this after the trade-
      down. He has exceptional get-off and some pass rush savvey. Excellent run defender and versatile.

      2 (56) Josh Perry (LB), Ohio St Truly a NEED pick. Who is going to be the everyday SAM? There aren’t a lot
      available and Perry has proven to be a leader, decently athletic, and a gym-rat.

      3 (90) Connor McGovern (OG), Missouri
      Most of us like him and find him Seahawk-worthy as a G or C. Super-strong, SPARQy, great grip, tackle-convert. If he isn’t there, Dahl or Coleman (I think he drops because of health-risk).

      3 (97) Jonathan Williams (RB), Arkansas
      Not a lot of hype for this guy–but he is a 3-down back when healthy. Runs the hardest in this class IMO. Perkins and Ervin would be nice too but likely gone by this point.

      3/4t Hala Vaitai (OT), TCU
      Probably have to grab their 2nd OL in this area as the draft starts moving into the Lewis, Thuney tier of hogs. He hasn’t put his hand in the dirt, but he is athletic and can pass pro. Looks like a RT with LT potential.

      4 (124) Rashard Robinson (CB), LSU
      Checks off the CB measurables (32.25″ arms), 4.43 40 (yet only 5 reps on the bench suggests he needs some development. James Bradberry is the other one to watch in this range.

      5 (171) Tyrone Holmes (Edge), Montana
      This is a home run if he last this far down the board. If Feeney is available, it would be a tough call between the two.

      6 (215) Arturo Uzdavinis (OT), Tulane SPARQy project that will clear his way to the practice squad for further development.

      7 (225) Rico Gathers (TE), Baylor Hoops conversion. 6-6, 273, runs 4.75+ They can’t help themselves. German WR Boehringer may be in play as well.

      7 (247) Will Ratelle (ILB/FB), North Dakota If he can catch, he’d be a nice FB convert–5-9, 251, 4.57, 36″, 36 bench reps, 9-10 broad–and the best part–he hits like a ton of bricks! Special teams ace potential.

      Go Hawks!

  12. Kenny Sloth

    Updated workout/visit list

    Daniel Braverman, WR, Western Michigan (PRI)
    Jonathan Bullard, DE/DT/3-4DE, Florida (WOR)
    Vernon Butler, DT/NT, Louisiana Tech (PRI)
    Le’Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech (COM)
    Blake Countess, CB, Auburn (PRO)
    Joe Dahl, G/OT, Washington State (SR)
    Sean Davis, CB/S, Maryland (STM)
    Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (PRI)
    Tyler Ervin, RB, San Jose State (PRO)
    George Fant, TE, Western Kentucky (WOR)
    D.J. Foster, RB/WR, Arizona State (COM)
    Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford (COM)
    Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (PRI)
    Marcus Henry, C, Boise State (PRI)
    Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M (WOR)
    Devon Johnson, RB/FB, Marshall (WOR)
    Chris Jones, DT/3-4DE, Mississippi State (PRI)
    Shaq Lawson, DE/3-4OLB, Clemson (COM)
    Jay Lee^, WR, Baylor (PRO, PRI, WOR)
    Roger Lewis, WR, Bowling Green (STM)
    Lene Maiava, OT/G, Arizona (PRI)
    Will Parks, SS, Arizona (PRI)
    Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State (COM)
    Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (WOR)
    D.J. Reader, DT/NT, Clemson (COM)
    Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU (PRI)
    KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame (PRI)
    Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State (PRO)

    DT Vernon Butler visiting the Seahawks on 4/11. (Rapoport)
    – TE Hakeem Valles worked out for Seahawks on 4/11. (Aaron Wilson)
    – Seahawks like OL Rees Odhiambo and C Marcus Henry. (Pauline)
    – Seahawks have shown interest in OL Torian White. (Pauline)
    – TE Terenn Houk to be worked out by Seattle. (Aaron Wilson)
    – Seahawks have visited with LB Christian French (Pauline)
    – Seahawks were on hand for WR Paul McRoberts Pro Day. (Jim Thomas)
    – RB Zac Brooks spoke with the Seahawks at his Pro Day. (Dan Hope)
    – WR Dez Stewart had a pre-draft visit with the Seahawks. (Brandt)
    – The Seahawks held a private workout with OT Justin Murray. (Owczarski)
    – DE Kevin Dodd recently visited with the Seahawks. (Rapoport)
    – No workout set up but there is interest in DB Sean Davis from Seattle. (Cohen)
    – WR Moritz Boehringer to visit with Seattle. (Condotta)
    – Seahawks flew up CB Kevon Seymour for a visit. (Condotta)
    – Seahawks taking a look at TE George Fant. (Pauline)
    – C Marcus Henry had an official visit with the Seahawks today. (Pauline)
    – G Lene Maiava had an official visit with the Seahawks today. (Pauline)
    – WR Brandon Swindall has drawn interest from the Seahawks. (Aaron Wilson)
    – QB Liam Nadler garnering interest from Seattle. (Aaron Wilson)
    – LB Reggie Ragland told NFL.com that he will visit Seattle on 4/19.
    – S Andrew Adams drawing interest from Seahawks. (Mike Loyko)/
    – DT Taani Tupou worked out for the Seahawks. (NFL Draft Diamonds)
    – LB Sadat Sulleyman worked out at Seahawks local prospect day. (Aaron Wilson)
    – Seahawks were pleased with TE Terren Houk’s private workout. (Aaron Wilson)
    – OL Sifa Tufunga worked out at the Seahawks local prospect day. (NFL Draft Diamonds)
    – OL Connor McGovern told SiriusXM NFL Radio that he has interest from Seattle.
    – According to his Twitter account, Keivarae Russell is meeting with the Seahawks
    – Seahawks are looking into QB Liam Nadler. (Aaron Wilson)

  13. manthony

    Whats the knock of LSUs Jalen Mills? I have some friends from down there and he was all the craze two years ago. Seems like he hasnt gotten a lot of buzz here.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      SOURCES TELL US “I think he’ll be a long-time player in the league because he has pretty good feel in coverage, but I also don’t think he’s a safety at all. He’s a slot corner.” — AFC West scout

      There is a detail about DV: An arrest for second-degree battery of a woman in the summer of 2014
      (the charges were eventually reduced to a misdemeanor and he was assigned to a diversion program).

      There is also another detail, which would exclude him form Seattle’s consideration, he has 31 and 1/8″ arms. If the Seahawks stay true to form, he would not be considered for the measurables.

      • manthony

        Yeah i wasnt sure if he was prohecting at cb or safety. And wasnt sure if the 32 inch minimum only applied to cbs or safetys as well. Is it all dbs?

  14. Kenny Sloth

    Jay Lee, 3 reported meetings with Seattle and Blake Muir OG Baylor via Australia had the same major.

  15. Eran-Ungar

    It’s draft day morning here and i have very little to say left. Like i said a few days ago – I AM READY.

    It’s time to thank you Rob for an incredible year here.

    In the past few years I have seen pretty much “eye to eye” with you regarding the team’s needs and probable strategy. This year i found myself on the opposite corner regarding this year’s draft. Instead of just nodding my head, I looked deeper to understand why you see it differently.

    It didn’t change my overall view but it has been an invaluable lesson regarding the amazing work that you do. I may have not been a supporting voice here but I want you to know that i truly admire the work that you do. I have no idea how you can manage that on your own with a family and a day job.

    I am happy to see the recognition you are receiving for your incredible work. I hope that after the UDFA’s frenzy is over, JS will pick the phone and start dialing +44, you deserve it.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Eran

      • Saxon

        Yes. Thanks for all the hard work, Mr. Staton!

    • sdcoug

      Good post Eran. I don’t always agree either, but Rob (and other posters) help me stretch my level of knowledge and considerations on a routine basis. Love this site.

      Thanks Rob, truly. And thanks to all you other crazy posters out there

  16. C-Dog

    An interesting case for Jonathan Bullard, written yesterday, and noting how much time the Seahawks have spent with him, among other things. Another player I keep going back to with warm fuzzy feelings.

    http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2016/4/26/11510170/jonathan-bullard-2016-nfl-draft-profile-scouting-report

    • Volume12

      Don’t know if ya saw my mock, but that’s who I went with in a trade back.

      ‘Solid rotational player.’ That’s what anybody they draft will be on the defensive side of the ball.

      • Volume12

        I see one position up for grabs on defense.

        CB.

      • Trevor

        Vol 12 I never saw your mock can you repost? Would love to see it.

        • C-Dog

          Yeah, I echo that Volume 12. Do you mind reposting that again?

      • C-Dog

        I didn’t get a chance to check it out. Great point on the “solid rotational play” comment, my first thought when I read that was that describes virtually everyone on the defensive line not named Bennett of Avril.

        • C-Dog

          Yeah, upon further reflection, I’m all in on Jonathan Bullard if he’s the first player they take. IMO, he screams Seattle Seahawk.

  17. Nathan

    I’m not convinced this trade back is going to be as easy as it may seem.

    Won’t the Bengals and Vikings want the same thing if their receiver is nabbed by the Texans.

    Why would other side jump forward if the value isn’t there?

    Surely anyone looking for secondary help wants to get ahead of Pittsburgh.

    • Volume12

      Might not.

      They might move up. Doubtful, but I can’t say I wouldn’t see it coming.

      We hear how it’s a deep draft, and while that’s true, if there’s no edge, shelves, drop-off in talent, your not giving up much.

      Probably doubtful, but I’m just merely looking at this scenario from both sides of the glass.

    • GeoffU

      I’m hoping for a run on quarterbacks by desperate teams. However, I don’t think any of them are worth it, and they probably won’t think so either. 🙁

      • Kenny Sloth

        Hackenberg getting lots of interest from Bills.

        • badjujus

          maybe they want to trade dow nto 26 and we can snag a falling rankins?

  18. CharlieTheUnicorn

    Gonna stick to my guns for the final mock draft

    Round 1 (1) GERMAIN IFEDI, OT/OG
    Round 2 (1) BRONSON KAUFUSI, DE
    Round 3 (2) CONNER McGOVERN, OG / TYLER ERVIN, RB
    Round 4 (1) TRAVIS FEENEY, LB
    Round 5 (1) DEVON CAJUSTE, WR
    Round 6 (1) JAMES BRADBERRY, CB
    Round 7 (2) BRANDON ALLEN, QB / KEENAN REYNOLDS, RB/ATH

    I’m excited that the process is finally, thankfully, about to begin.
    JS was on the radio yesterday and said he was excited about the draft. “Everyone should pray that things break right for them” (paraphrased). I kind of LOL when I heard that……

    I guess it comes down to the old RW quote from 2012 “Separation is in the preparation”
    They’ve done the preparation, it is time to shine!

    • RWIII

      Charlie: Just for the record. John Schneider was serious when he asked you to pray. Did you know that JS attends Catholic Mass before the draft?

      • LLLOGOSSS

        Let’s not.

  19. Josh emmett

    I wanna see Darius Jackson in camp. Drafted or not. He can catch the ball and is fast as hell. Draft Darius Jackson, Tyler Ervin, and Dan Vitale and stack the backfield with Rawls. Could be a rad 5th, 6th, and 7th round run at RB.

  20. Kenny Sloth

    Keivarae Russell from Everett
    Sifa Tufunga UW c/g could be a udfa target. Might go home to cali.
    Terenn Houk TE BYU from Enumclaw
    Sadat Sulleyman Por.SU LB is from Ghana, hometown Spanaway.
    Taniela Tupou UW DT/FB from Marysville
    Marcus Henry from Bellevue
    Rees Odhiambo 3x all academic selection
    George Fant is a basketball convert.
    Hakeem Valles was a team captain
    Will Parks a captain
    Devon Johnson TE to RB convert 1,700 yards for Marshall. Great blocker.
    Joshua Garnett is from Puyallup.

    DJ Foster RB to WR convert; One of just five players in NCAA Division I history to rush AND receive for more than 2,000 yards in their careerEarned Dean’s List and Scholar Baller® academic honors in Fall 2015 with a 3.92 semester GPA

    Looks like they are targeting captains, honor roll guys, and local undrafted types.

  21. Volume12

    If San Diego passes on DB Jalen Ramsey for OL Ronnie Stanley, I’m gonna mark it down as the worst move of the draft.

    Ramsey is the best defensive player, might be the best overall player, in this draft.

    • Alicamousa

      How do you see him panning out?

      I reckon if they leave the kid at FS he’ll be a superstar, could be every bit as good as Earl. If they mess him around, get him doing a bit of this, a bit of that, he might struggle to develop.

      The Stanley > Tunsil stuff that’s popped up lately is bizarre to me. I’m not seeing it at all.

      • Volume12

        I see him doing a bit of everything.

        Agree that he is a better safety, but I think he can handle CB duties as well.

        IMO this kid is every bit as good as Ed Reed, ET, and the likes, but those 2 had great defensive minds behind their develpment.

        He’s just different. Everything you’d want in a moder day hybrid DB.

        All-Pro potential, DROY front-runner.

        He’s a Tyrann Mathieu like playmaker with the length of a Seahawk corner, and has some Deion Sanders swag to him.

        I’d be wiling to bet that he’s PC/JS highest rated player.

        • Trevor

          I agree Vol. He is everything you could want in todays NFL for a DB. I would love to see him as a Free Safety.

        • vrtkolman

          I think he’s a different safety than Reed and ET, who both have other-worldly straight line speed and range. Ramsey’s measureables are so close to Eric Berry’s it’s scary. Berry is a little stiff in change of direction, much like Ramsey is (which is why I don’t think he has top tier cornerback potential). Ramsey will be excellent in over the top coverage and in the box, but for comparison sake Patrick Peterson’s 3 cone completely blew Ramsey’s away.

    • Trevor

      If they take Stanley over Tunisl it is crazy IMO if they are set on taking an OT.

    • icb12

      I’d mark that as the 3rd worst move.
      Right after the Rams and eagles blowing their loads for goff and wentz.

  22. ulsterman

    Unfortunately, as I’m in Northern Ireland, draft day is really the early hours of tomorrow morning and chances are for the Seahawks it’ll be even later as they probably trade out.

    Rob, again great work, I’m on the site every day and it’s the best Seahawks one out there, as can be seen by the amount of people who now post on here.

    No offence, but I actually hope you’re wrong about the Oline requirements – I’d love to see one or more of Kelly, Nick Martin, Garnett, Westerman or Whitehair picked as I think there’s a better chance they’ll be solid pros. However, suspect you’re right and they’ll go for the ultra athletic guys.

    Just hope the Seahawks don’t try to be too clever – just load up on both lines.

    I also really want linebacker Aaron Wallace in the 4th or 5th.

    All the best to everyone else who helps make this a great site.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks for the kind words!

  23. Trevor

    My Final and official Rd#1 Mock with trades

    *Titans trade up with Baltimore
    *Miami trades up with Browns
    *Baltimore trades up with Hawks

    Round 1
    ** Indicates trade
    #1 LA — Jared Goff (QB Cal)
    #2 Phil— Carson Wentz (QB ND St.)
    #3 San Diego — Larmey Tunsil (OT Miss)
    #4 Dallas — Sheldon Rankins (DT Louisville)
    #5 Jacksonville — Jaylen Ramsey (DB Florida St.)
    **#6 Tennessee — Ronny Stanley (OT ND)
    #7 San Francisco — Deforest Buckner (DL, Oregon)
    **#8 Miami — Ezekiel Elliott (RB Ohio St.)
    #9 Tampa Bay — Joey Bosa (DL Ohio St.)
    #10 New York Giants — Jack Conklin (OT Mich St)
    #11 Chicago — Leonard Floyd (LB Georgia)
    #12 New Orleans — Vernon Hargraves (DB Florida)
    #13 Clevland— Paxton Lynch (QB Memphis)
    #14 Oakland — Myles Jack (LB UCLA)
    #15 Baltimore —
    #16 Detroit —Taylor Decker (OT Ohio St)
    #17 Atlanta — Keanu Neal (S Florida)
    #18 Indianapolis — Ryan Kelly (C Alabama)
    #19 Buffalo — Kevin Dodd (DL Clemson)
    #20 New York Jets — Noah Spence (Edge, EKU)
    #21 Washington — Karl Joseph (S W. Vir)
    #22 Houston —Corey Coleman (WR Baylor)
    #23 Minnesota —Laquan Treadwell (WR Miss)
    #24 Cincinatti — Josh Doctson (WR TCU)
    #25 Pittsburgh — Andrew Billings (DT Baylor)
    **#26 Baltimore —Germain Ifedi (OT Tex A&M)
    #27 Green Bay — Reggie Ragland (LB Alabama)
    #28 Kansas City — William Jackson (CB Houston)
    #29 Arizona — TG Green (S Clemson)
    #30 Carolina — Shaq Lawson (Edge Clemson)
    #31 Denver — Connor Cook (QB Mich St.)

    • sdcoug

      No Lee? Or does he go to Balt?

  24. Trevor

    Balitmore pick at #15 should have said Darron Lee (LB Ohio St)

    • sdcoug

      Oops, just saw this haha. Disregard my post above

  25. peter

    Happy draftmas! Everyone.

    Rob excellent work as usual. Next year when I can watch more then three football games ill have more to say.

    I will say I’m not looking forward to your near annual “day two options,” piece you’ve probably got saved on your computer when a trade goes down between 7-8 pm p.s.t.! But just through following this year I almost think some of the outlandish trades posted here would be the best outcome:

    26 to Dallas’ second.

    That pick back say six more spots…

    Two 2’s, three 3’s. Something completely goofball

    And the player you sold me on officially: Shon Coleman. I think if he was one year younger and had one less of either his injury or cancer he wouldn’t even be in Seattle’s reach. I like a lot of prospects brought up here for different reasons. But if Seattle is okay with Jesse Williams for a few seasons and prospect receivers in the fourth Coleman to me has to be an option even in the third round.

    Anyways look forward to the breakdowns/discussions this week. Cheers!

  26. KD

    I just wanted to join the other readers here in thanking you Rob as well as other tireless writers like Kenny, Danny Kelly, Zach Whitman, et al for all the hard work you have put in to keep us all informed. Just a few years ago, I nearly jumped off a bridge (figuratively) when the Seahawks took Bruce Irvin because I had simply never heard of him. From that day on, I swore that I was going to do my homework and learn about as many players as possible so that I would not get caught in a state of shock. Thanks to you Rob, I am an infinitely more educated fan than I was just a few years ago. Keep up the great work.

    Cheers

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man!

  27. 503Hawk

    I have a feeling it’s going to be a longggggg day for us Hawk fans.
    “With the 26th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks… TRADE”. No surprise there. Just means we will probably have to wait for Friday to hear of our first pick.

    • GeoffU

      Yeah but we can argue/salivate all Thursday night and Friday over who we’re going to pick!

  28. Nick P

    Happy draft day everyone!

    A lot is going to happen over the next 3 days, but I think I have narrowed it down to 3 guys I hope they grab.

    1. I’m with you on this V12, Jonathan Bullard. Would be a great addition to the rotation. He reminds me a bit of Michael Bennett the way he can knife through the line and find his way into the backfield.

    2. Germain Ifedi – Ideal frame for what we want to do at LG but could play at RT as well. At the very least would create some healthy competition at a few spots on the OL.

    3. Noah Spence – I flipped flopped on Spence a lot over the past few weeks but am fairly certain if used correctly he is going to be a great pass rusher. I think the Von Miller comparisons are a little premature but I think he can be an 8-10 sack guy if put in the right situation. I understand there is not an obvious role for him in the Seahawks scheme, but I am confident they could find a way to utilize his talent.

    I do hope they trade down, as there seems to be a lot of value falling to them if what we suspect is going to happen actually happens. Can’t wait to follow up on the draft with everyone. Cheers!

    • 503Hawk

      That would be cool if they could get those three!

      My one “walk away with guy” has to be Shon Coleman.

      • Nick P

        I do like Coleman as well, especially if they acquire more picks they should have the chance to get him.

        I guess I should clarify, it would be very difficult to get all of them, but I would be happy with any of the 3 I listed haha.

  29. ItsAboutTheDefense

    It’s hard to comprehend the amount of work you do on this Blog, Rob. Thank you for your dedication and work, and also for sharing it with us. This is obviously a labor of love and I feel privileged to read it. I’d like to add a thank you for the fairness you’ve shown to me personally.
    I can only hope you’ll continue with this many more years.

    • Rob Staton

      Thank you for the kind words

  30. Saxon

    I really hope the Hawks go:

    R1: DL
    R2: OL
    R3: OL
    R3: RB/WR

    I think we can wait on OL a bit, but DL will thin out fast. So, take Adams or Bullard at 26 then sacrifice your #2 and #3 and trade up early in the second round for Shon Coleman or Spriggs or Ifedi. Take McGovern with your compensatory 3rd.

    With Trade Up:

    1) DT: Vernon Adams
    2) OT: Shon Coleman
    3) G/C: Connor McGovern
    4) WR: D.Cajuste
    5) RB: Tyler Ervin
    6) LB: Stephen Weatherly
    7) QB: Jeff Driskel
    7) RB/FB Dan Vitale

    • Kenny Sloth

      Vernon Butler*? Lmao

      • GeoffU

        Seahawks will start a new trend. Adams will be the first of a long line of successful QB to DT conversions. I hear JaMarcus Russell is already on board…

        • Kenny Sloth

          I think Breaking Madden did an all QB defense-

          and made Russell the NT. It doesn’t project well, to say the least.

          • Kenny Sloth

            Wilson*

      • Saxon

        Heh. Oops!

  31. Del tre

    Great work rob you’ve really built a community on this site and I’m happy to be a part of it

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man — love the community we have here

  32. Ed

    If no Butler or Rankins, trade back. Gilliam and Webb will be the OT, and the inside guys (OG OC) can be had in the 3rd.

    Trade back twice, get extra 3rd and 4th and go:

    2nd Henry (RB)
    2nd McGovern (OL)
    3rd Frackell (DE)
    3rd Killebrew (S)
    3rd Henry (DT)
    4th Cajuste (WR)
    4th Dahl (OL)

    • vrtkolman

      Totally fine with Gilliam and Webb at OT, I just don’t really care about the tackles much compared to the interior line.

      • Ed

        Yep. Where the OL and Wilson have the trouble, especially vs Rams. Fix the inside blockers

  33. 12er

    Oh Mayock. He’s on Path to the Draft right now and explained mocking Stanley to the Chargers at #3 by saying Stanley is a superior run blocker than Tunsil right now.

    It’s this kind of analysis that makes me really skeptical about his scouting ability.

    • Rob Staton

      He should just be honest and say a source he trusts has told him Stanley to San Diego.

      • 12er

        Do you think it would be a mistake for them to take Tunsil or Stanley? Dunlap and Barksdale aren’t special but they’re solid tackles when healthy. Also, RT may be more important to San Diego than the blindside, since their RT faces arguably the 3 top edge rushers in the league 6x a season (Mack, Miller, Houston).

        • Rob Staton

          I still think San Diego goes Buckner. I think this Stanley talk could be a last gasp smokescreen.

          • Volume12

            I don’t get the Stanley thing at all.

  34. Ed

    Oh Rob, you just don’t know how far and away better than the professionals. Just heard McShay finally talk about Neal in the first. You talked about this 3 months ago. Classic. If I ever own a team, you’re my GM.

    • Rob Staton

      🙂

  35. Volume12

    C-dog, and Trev, here’s my mock from yesterday.

    I predicted a trade back.

    RD2- Jonathan Bullard, DL, Florida
    RD2- Le’Raven Clark, OL, Texas Tech
    RD3- Connor McGovern, OL, Mizzou
    RD3- Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA
    RD4- Keivarae Russell, CB, ND
    RD4- Miles Killebrew, S/LB/ATH, S. Utah
    RD5- Aaron Wallace, OLB, UCLA
    RD6- George Fant, OL, W. Kentucky
    RD7- Terrenn Houk, TE, BYU
    RD7- Liam Nadler, QB, Gannon

    UDFA:

    Alex McAllister, EDGE, Florida
    Davonte Allen, WR, Marshall
    Jaydon Mickens, WR, UW
    Marcus Henry, OL, Boise St.
    Soma Vainuku, FB, USC
    DJ Hunter, S, Marshall

    Also considered RB Tyler Ervin, WR Devon Cajuste, LB Travis Feeney, OL Shon Coleman, OL Spencer Drango, DB Sean Davis, OL Max Tuerk

  36. Jason

    I know unrealistic, but how is this for the first 5 rounds on a fanspeak draft?

    26: R1P26
    DT VERNON BUTLER
    LOUISIANA TECH
    56: R2P25
    S KEANU NEAL
    FLORIDA
    90: R3P27
    G CONNOR MCGOVERN
    MISSOURI
    97: R3P34
    RB TYLER ERVIN
    SAN JOSE STATE
    124: R4P26
    DE BRONSON KAUFUSI
    BRIGHAM YOUNG
    171: R5P32
    OT JOE DAHL
    WASHINGTON STATE

    Pipe dream?

  37. H M Abdou

    Great job, Rob, and a big thank you! Also great job by all the people posting comments!

    In many ways, the draft is the best time of the year, every fan base has hope for the upcoming season (and beyond). Every fan base can ask:

    Why not us?!

    One of the few times I really am looking forward to rounds 2-7, the depth is that good, especially if Pete and John can engineer a trade down.

    I think it’s going to be a terrific and interesting draft for the Hawks

  38. NeilJ

    Rob let me add my thanks to you and all the other posters here who make this site such a treat.

    Just for fun, since I have not heard any buzz about him lately, who thinks the Hawks might take a flyer on Jaylon Smith should he drop into the late second early third round area of this draft? I realize it revolves around his medicals but what a potential coup if he can come back Healthy.

    Cheers!

    • Nick P

      Based on how incredibly good he was/is as a prospect, if we trade down and acquire some more picks, I would love to use one on him.

      Seattle takes great pride in the medical staff they have and I think if he is able to play again, we would be an ideal team to help get him there.

  39. Aaron

    I agree with Softy that people are overrating our status at CB. One guy who I feel strongly about in that regard is Will Parks of AZ. He’s a guy who can play CB or Safety. More importantly, he jumped off the screen when I watched his video. He’s featured in a Field Gulls article that’s still up on underrated DB prospects. He also had an official visit to VMAC. Maybe a 4th or 5th round pic.

    At the top of the draft I’ve had the strong feeling that the Seahawks will surprise many people by drafting Derrick Henry. They may even be able to trade back and get him. I don’t see him falling to 56 though. If they can bring in an imposing physical freak who won the Heisman to pair with Rawls, while also picking up an extra pick, that would be amazing.

    There will be plenty of options for O-Line and D-Line in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I see Joe Dahl as one of the more likely possibilities there.

    • i I don't get the Stanley thing at all.

      Parks is absolutely an underrated prospect.

      Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Seattle went with him. But, I think he’s more of an UDFA.

  40. rowdy

    My dark horse for this year is a rb in the first 2 rounds. Rawls is still injured and they hope he’s ready to start the season. They don’t seem to have faith in cmike and they haven’t addressed the position in the offseason. I can see them taking a rb as a priority. I personally don’t see it but rb is one of the thinner positions on this team at a position they never been thin at.

    • Nick P

      I definitely agree with this, which is all the more reason to trade down. If they can get two 2nd rounders, it might make sense to use one of them on Henry.

      I also don’t think that they need to take one particularly high but based on how highly the run game is valued, it wouldn’t surprise me.

  41. badjujus

    Rob, Love the podcast excited for tonight.

    Please for the love of god. Pronounce Cassius correctly.

    CASH-ISS

    Thanks keep up the great work.

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