The future of D.K. Metcalf in Seattle

D.K. Metcalf will likely be paid by someone this off-season

This is a guest post from Curtis Allen. I have uploaded a new podcast discussing the same subject which can be found at the bottom of the article, available on YouTube, Spotify and Apple

The Seahawks’ tumultuous offseason continues.  After making two of the biggest, hardest decisions in franchise history on Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner, they have one more major decision coming up very soon.  

What to do with D.K. Metcalf?

The time to consider this is rapidly approaching.

As Rob recently pointed out, the days between the initial burst of free agency activity and the draft is an ideal spot for the Seahawks to explore their options. They need to do their research, make serious contact with Metcalf’s team to gauge their feelings on an extension, study the players available at wide receiver in the draft and drop a line in the water to get a feel for what kind of return they could expect in trade for a player of his caliber.

There is also another motivating factor — Metcalf will likely require a new contract before getting seriously involved in off-season activities. The Seahawks need only look to last year’s Jamal Adams hold-in to see how dragging their feet on an extension impacted the team’s output on the field.

Adams was far from effective last year. After the season was over the team admitted that he was not as prepared as he could have been due to not taking part in those offseason practices and camp. They cannot afford a repeat of that cycle.

If they get past the draft and then decide to trade Metcalf, the capital they get in return will not benefit the team until 2023. Not being able to immediately develop and showcase the draft haul they get in return would cause another big hit to the fans’ goodwill in 2022, particularly after the other moves that drained the squad of fan favorites.

The talent deficiency on the roster might be too much to be salved over by ‘just wait until next season.’ The current management team would really be under the gun to make rapid improvement in 2023.

So, with all that in mind, it is best to get cracking on whether they can agree on an extension or get serious about a trade right now.

Let’s take a walk through what factors the team will have to consider when making this big decision.

Setting up the framework of an extension

Contemplating a Metcalf extension is going to take some serious thought.  

The recent contracts that have been negotiated at the top of the wide receiver market make this a very difficult proposition to consider for fans who are interested in the future of this team. The numbers have been eye-popping and there is no doubt that a contract for Metcalf would have a similar effect on the fanbase and the NFL in general.

When you add in the Seahawks’ typical lack of creativity with the way they structure their contracts, combined with their current needs all over the roster, it would appear from a high-level viewpoint to be a real challenge to both getting a deal done and having it benefit the team without crippling their ability to make other critical roster moves.

However, there exists a path forward where the Seahawks keep Metcalf and still have the ability to add talent to their roster as they need.

Let me take you to the ledge on this and then walk you back a little.  Stay with me.

The first step is discerning what the top of the wide receiver market is. 

We see that Davante Adams just busted the market with an incredible 5-year $140 million deal with Las Vegas. $28 million per season is now the top number for average annual value then and we should proceed as though that is the case in a Metcalf negotiation, yes?  

No.

In fact, it is a sort of phoney number at the moment.

The last two years of Adams’ contract have been structured to essentially be void years. Those two years alone contribute a gigantic $80 million to the overall number. They are an astounding contract inflation. Without those years, the contract is in actuality a 3-year contract that averages $22.5 million in money. That is the amount Adams can actually count on from Las Vegas.

What about DeAndre Hopkins’ $27.5 million average? He got two years for 2023 and 2024 at $54.25 million tacked on to the end of his deal in 2020 that feature zero guarantees. Hopkins can void a year by meeting performance incentives and the Cardinals can cut him loose without any guaranteed salary to pay, so it is almost a ‘mutual void year’ type situation. 

Put another way, the Cardinals have an out just as they start feeling the pain from Kyler Murray’s first big extension.

Tyreek Hill’s new mega-contract? Let’s let the dust settle and the real terms come to light before we get too excited. The early word is nearly always worse than the deal truly is.

For those reasons, it is worth considering those gigantic AAV contract numbers as outliers and not necessarily the new standard, particularly when considering a possible Metcalf contract. They have end-of-contract seasons that are non-guaranteed and balloon the overall AAV into the stratosphere and the likelihood those two players will actually be paid according to those numbers at the end is extremely low.

Who do we look at then to get a feel for Metcalf’s market value? It might be more beneficial to look at wide receivers that were very successful on their rookie contract and recently signed healthy extensions.

Why? 

#1 — They have an age/skill profile that indicates their play is still ascending, as does Metcalf

#2 — A second contract gives us a reasonable gauge for how other NFL teams view the position

#3 — Those contracts rarely have all those special creative provisions like the Adams and Hopkins deals and it makes for a more apples-to-apples look since the Seahawks do not often get that creative in their contract structuring

#4 — Most importantly, there is a far higher likelihood the player will get all the way through the contract and earn another good one. So the years on the end of the deal are far more likely to be ‘real’

For consideration, we have three such deals signed very recently:

— D.J. Moore of the Panthers just signed a 3-year, $61.9 million contract with $41.6 million guaranteed 

— Mike Williams of the Charges just signed a 3-year $60 million contract with $40 million guaranteed 

— Chris Godwin of the Buccaneers just signed a 3-year $60 million contract with $40 million guaranteed 

So there we have our framework. Three contracts for young star wide receivers. They all average around $20 million per season with about 2/3 of the contract guaranteed.

There is our base.

What a possible extension could look like

Working off of those numbers, I believe that if the Seahawks wanted to extend Metcalf, they would be justified in signing him to the following contract:

4 years, $100 million, with $60 million guaranteed and a $24 million signing bonus

That obviously works out to an AAV of $25 million per season.

That is essentially a 25% bump over those three contracts we just talked about. How did I get there?

Several reasons…

First off, all three of those players are being extended off of either a franchise-tag year, or the 5th-year first round option. They have already made (or are scheduled to make in 2022) more money in one season than Metcalf will make on his entire rookie contract. This is Metcalf’s first bite at the apple and he will (deservedly) consider that his contract should reflect that as part of the overall package.

Second, Metcalf is an extraordinary talent that has produced in three seasons what those players have done in four or five:

— Metcalf has 29 touchdowns in three seasons

— Godwin has 29 in five seasons

— Williams has 26 in four seasons and change

— Moore has 14 in four seasons

Yes, being a wide receiver is not solely about touchdowns. Yet Metcalf’s productivity in this area runs laps around these newly wealthy players – even while dealing with a limited route-tree rookie year and the combination of a nagging foot injury and playing for stretches without top quarterback play last season.

Third, this acknowledges some things for Metcalf and the team. It shows they are committed to their drafted players and rebuilding a contending team in Seattle. A healthy contract that pays him more can grease the skids of not being on a top team this year or next. It also is a not-so-subtle nod that even though those Adams and Hopkins contracts are artificially inflated for PR purposes, the Seahawks meet Metcalf in the middle between what those guys ‘supposedly’ got and what the other young stars actually got.

Fourth, it buys Metcalf out of a no-trade clause.  This is important, as you’ll see in a moment.

Fifth, I’m embarrassingly bad at guessing what players will get on a contract. I personally think a $22-23m AAV contract would be fair and get the job done but I am tacking on a 10% fudge factor to cover the contingency that maybe I am not a professional-grade contract prognosticator.

So — a 4-year contract for $100 million.  

A nine-figure contract. For a wide receiver.  

It is admittedly hard to absorb but that is where we are these days.

However, if you have ever heard me drone on about the salary cap, you probably know what is coming next. It’s not about the total dollars or years so much as it is how it is structured and how badly it restricts the team from getting out of it. Flexibility to make further roster moves is a critical ingredient for teams, particularly ones like the Seahawks, who do not ‘pull out all the stops’ and go shopping on the company credit card very often.

So, how does this deal look on the Seahawks’ salary cap? And is it really workable to spend this much on a wide receiver?

Deal structure

A couple notes before we dig in. I used some standard contract principles the Seahawks prefer. A four-year contract, with as much guaranteed salary as soon as possible. It allows them options and flexibility later in the deal.

Also I used whole numbers and avoided any option or roster bonuses, or other contract incentives. I wanted a clean-looking cap discussion that was within reason and didn’t require a slide rule, a law degree or a 5000 line spreadsheet to illuminate the impact.  So keep in mind, this is not precisely what a Metcalf contract would look like.

I also adjusted his 2022 season – the last year of his rookie deal – to account for the bonus proration and took some cap hit in 2022 as the Seahawks likely would. The Seahawks currently have Metcalf slated for a cap hit of $4.324 million on his rookie deal. I added a year’s bonus proration and converted $2 million of his salary to a bonus and spread it out over the life of the contract – a standard practice – and the result is a cap hit of $7.524 million, an increase on their 2022 cap of $3.2 million.

Have a look:

As you can see, there is a typical setup to the contract. The cap hits grow slowly over the years then get big at the end and the guaranteed salary peaks and then diminishes just as quickly. The Seahawks have a lot of options available to them in the last two seasons.

Before we get into that, if you are trying to weigh whether you think the Seahawks would make such a big investment in Metcalf, have a look at the cap hits for the first three seasons in isolation. Those are the most important in this deal. The guaranteed money and the money left on the bonus proration makes it painful to cut or trade Metcalf before 2024, so you are absolutely committing to Metcalf for three seasons if he signs this deal. That is the tradeoff for having flexibility later.

Three seasons at $43.92m (or an AAV of $14.64m) plus a $10.4m dead cap hit in 2025 if you want to escape the contract. Ask yourself if you are comfortable with those cap numbers for a receiver of Metcalf’s age, physical profile and projected on-field impact for this team.

There is room to carry a Metcalf contract on the Seahawks’ salary cap and not be too crippled. It does overlap with Tyler Lockett’s recent extension.  However, note that when Metcalf’s cap number starts getting serious, the Seahawks have structured Lockett’s contract so that there is no guaranteed salary. They have a lot of flexibility.  They can cut him, trade him, or negotiate him down if they feel they need to.

As well, ask yourself, who on the current roster is destined for a big-money extension in the coming years? Who else should the Seahawks be saving their cap for? Jamal Adams probably will not make it to the end of his current contract. Darrell Taylor will not be an unrestricted free agent until 2025. Jordyn Brooks is also under team control until 2025 as well.

There is room to give Metcalf a very big contract.

Keep in mind too, that the Seahawks will not have a franchise QB-level salary to pay in those years.  

Look at the Chargers.  They currently have two $20 million AAV wide receivers, Joey Bosa at $27 million, Corey Linsley at $12.5 million, just traded for Khalil Mack and added J.C. Jackson at $16.5 million. How? Because they have Justin Herbert on a rookie contract (and have drafted well).

If the Seahawks get their young quarterback, a Metcalf contract absolutely will not prohibit them from building around him.

However, if you are like me and you cannot keep your eyes off the $60.4 million in 2025 and 2026 combined cap hits, here is where paying some extra cash into the deal in exchange for not having a no-trade clause really helps the team.

After 2024 this contract gives the team options that are very workable.

The team could trade Metcalf after the 2024 season and gain $15.3 million of cap room back. They will have to pick up the final two years of bonus proration though, for a dead cap hit of $10.4 million.  

Metcalf would be coming off his age 27 season and still have major trade value (assuming his production has continued its steep ascent, which, if you’re signing him to this big of a contract, you are). 

Consider:

Julio Jones’ 28-30 age years are as arguably as good as his 25-27 age years.

Stefon Diggs has just had his two best career years to date at age 27 and 28. Same with Davante Adams, and the Packers just fetched a current-year first and second round pick for him in trade at age 30. 

It is very possible that Metcalf’s career could not yet have reached its peak by the time the window opens to trade him.

So consider this – the Seahawks could get a premium of draft capital for Metcalf in trade right now. Or they could pay him a pretty modest salary for three seasons and get perhaps the same premium in draft capital in 2025 and save $15.3 million on the cap. 

This is not a situation where once you give a top player a big, big contract, you hope he makes it to the end of the deal. Metcalf could still have his best years ahead of him in 2025 and it is conceivable that the trade haul could be just as impressive as it would be this year.

What about the $10.4m dead cap hit for trading him in 2025? It sounds like a chunk but think of that number in 2025 cap dollars. The new TV deals will be in full swing.  Gambling revenue will be coming online by then. The Seahawks could accept that dead cap hit and not bat an eyelash.

What about keeping Metcalf for 2025 and 2026? Two years at $60.4m sounds painful. Again, the structure helps you there. There is very little guaranteed money. The Seahawks could do any number of things. Restructure it to get some cap relief. Extend him and lower the cap hit. Keep him for 2025 and then trade him at age 29 and reap a massive $29.5 million in cap room in 2026.

The team has all kinds of options to pay Metcalf a very handsome amount and make it workable for them.

Admittedly, projecting Metcalf’s future production carries a degree of risk. Is he currently the equal of an Adams or a Diggs? No, not yet. Metcalf has to continue to play well. He needs to keep his level of commitment up after cashing his first massive check. But it is all well within the realm of possibility.

If you would like to take a crack at projecting a Metcalf extension, you might enjoy OTC’s Cap Constructor tool. Play around with it and see what you would like to do on an extension and let us know what you came up with in the comments and how you think it might work.

If the thought of paying a wide receiver that kind of money with the current roster needs the Seahawks have turns your stomach, I understand completely. This piece wasn’t intended to necessarily pick a side in this debate, just to illuminate what I think a contract extension might look like and demonstrate that it is a reasonable proposition if both sides can see the benefits. 

Many seem to be opposed to a Metcalf extension based on the Davante Adams mega-contract and the idea that it would literally cost $28 million against the cap every single year and thus would crush any cap flexibility going forward. Those factors are not as real and as big as you think.

Even if you are fine with the contract as I drew it up, Metcalf and his team may feel that a deal like that is not enough. They may balk at it and try to surpass the Davante Adams contract. We just do not know how it will work out. But it does need to be addressed very, very soon.

Trade options

The Seahawks should be in a strong negotiating position when considering trading Metcalf, should it come to that. With Pete Carroll’s recent comments about Metcalf though, it is fair to say the Seahawks are heavily invested in keeping him on the roster with an extension.

However, we need to have a look at what the trade market would be like for Metcalf.

The NFL’s thirst for wide receivers seems unquenchable and Metcalf is the kind of player you do not wonder ‘who would be interested?’ Rather, he is the type you ask ‘who wouldn’t be interested?’

It is well known that the Packers would probably be in the market. They have the draft capital after trading Adams and apparently they have the cash and cap room, if reports are to be believed that they offered Adams more money than Las Vegas did. They nervously waited all offseason for Aaron Rodgers to make up his mind and now that he has decided to come back, they might as well go all in and get him a weapon (given they’ve also lost Marquez Valdes-Scantling).

The Jets badly need a top receiver to grow up with Zach Wilson. They acknowledged this when they tried to acquire Tyreek Hill.  They have multiple picks available to them. 

Ditto with the Giants and Daniel Jones. Imagine Brian Dabol’s offense if they get the top offensive lineman in the draft, Saquon Barkley got healthy and then they added Metcalf.

The Chiefs just subtracted Tyreek Hill, have a ton of draft stock. While they added JuJu Smith-Schuster, they just need to look at what their division rivals have done this offseason to get interested in Metcalf.

Would the Lions come calling, looking for Calvin Johnson’s natural successor?

The Bears just had Allen Robinson walk. Darnell Mooney is their best weapon. Justin Fields needs help running the offense. Don’t tell me Chicago fans wouldn’t embrace a giant, muscular game-changer like Metcalf. A creative package with their two second-round picks this year and some future picks could work.

I could go on and on.

A player like Metcalf could spark a bidding war. Again, the Packers landed a current-year first and second round pick for 30-year-old Davante Adams and the Raiders happily made him very, very wealthy.

Tyreek Hill at age 28 just returned an even bigger package in trade.  

Reminder — Metcalf is 24, and will be 25 in December. If teams consider his immense potential to break games wide open and expand their offense in dramatic ways, how much would they give to get as many as five peak years of him under club control? With a current rookie year cap hit of only $3.986 million?  

A Jamal Adams-type haul does not seem too farfetched.

The Seahawks could do so many things with a windfall of draft picks.

Pick a wide receiver high in the draft and cross your fingers that he is the Justin Jefferson you get for trading your Stefon Diggs away.

Build a defense that will dominate the division for the next 5 years. Draft the entire Georgia Bulldog defense, why not?

How about enjoying the cozy warm feeling of having so many picks on the board you can just let the draft come to you? Lay in wait for talented players that slip and then go get them at your whim.

Or trade down a couple times and take two quarterbacks.

The options are endless and tantalizing.

The opportunity to vastly improve this team, whether by extending Metcalf or trading him, is a fun exercise to think about.

But the options are wide open.  The best thing you can take away from this piece is this:  signing Metcalf to a big contract extension does not close off those options forever.

153 Comments

  1. cha

    Addendum: Jason from OTC thinks the ‘real’ number for Tyreek Hill is $24m AAV

    https://overthecap.com/reassessing-the-value-of-contracts/

    • BruceN

      Great article Cha. Great job of breaking down all the details. I was in the camp of sell DK when his market is ultra high, because he is not affordable now. But the way you broke down the numbers I see keeping him is a manageable option. It shows we have many good options. Thank you. Very good read.

  2. Sea Mode

    Thanks for the in-depth look at some of our options.

    Whether one leans in favor of extending or of trading, DK is a great problem to have and just goes to show the benefits you can reap when you draft well!

  3. Robert Las Vegas

    You talk to NFL fans and a lot of people really believe that the NFL cap will blow up in the next few years what’s the certainty that that actually happens . If you are player you want your money now not in three or four years .

  4. AL

    The timing of this arcticle couldn’t have been better as this is a subject thats been on a lot of peoples minds lately.

    Really appreciate this thorough explanation of what it would cost to keep DK and what a new contract might look like. It sure looks like this would be workable from a Seahawks perspective, but it may come down to what DK and his agent deem he’s worth.

    It will be intesting to see how this plays out.

  5. Gross MaToast

    Really good stuff.

    DK might be the face of the franchise right now (at 24, an age where we’re discussing taking a few guys just out of college) and in Pete’s interview, he held DK up like a trophy to show how superb they are at drafting and seems determined to keep him around. If they re-sign him with a deal similar to what you’ve outlined here, I’m okay with that. If they trade him for a haul, I’m mostly okay with that. Money shouldn’t be the reason they make the trade, regardless.

    • BobbyK

      Ditto.

      Only problem is WRs who have been the face of the franchise have never won a Super Bowl. Most HOF WRs don’t win it. Megatron. Fitz. Julio. Largent. Moss. T.O…

      • Gross MaToast

        Well…somebody’s got to be first.

        But, until they add an O-line, D-line, QB, RB, LB, WR3, and a couple of other pieces here and there, he’s just a blue-haired Megatron.

        • Peter

          I’m back on the keep him train.

          If 16 picks including two firsts (one almost guaranteed top 10) two seconds and a ton of cash Seattle isn’t back to at least looking like a threat then it won’t matter if DK was re-signed.

          Then pete and john should be out on their asses and the next regime (hopefully in line with the sale of the team) can make the next call on DK.

          If the team is in striking distance then they’ve killed it on their picks and DK would be nearly the only high paid player if this star-less roster has been turned over and heading upwards.

      • CaptainJack

        Cooper Kupp says hi!

        • Gross MaToast

          Aaron Donald?

      • SoZ

        Umm…how about Jerry Rice? Michael Irvin?

        • Gross MaToast

          Joe Montana?
          Steve Young?
          Troy Aikman?

      • cha

        I don’t think that argument holds water Bobby.

        Fitz had an amazing game vs the Steelers in the SB and scored a streaking go-ahead with 2 minutes to play in the SB.

        Julio propelled the Falcons to the SB and 28-3 can’t be blamed on him when they choose to run the ball.

        Moss had an amazing 2007 and helped propel the team to a perfect season and they lost a close one in the SB.

        TO dragged himself out of the trainers room and had one of the guttiest performances in SB history in a loss to the Patriots by a FG.

        Tag those WRs as you like for not getting a ring, but dang. I don’t think the pathway to success is assured by getting rid of your star WR.

        • Gross MaToast

          Also, MOST HOF-every position don’t win rings, so judging the value of WRs solely by that criteria doesn’t provide a clear picture of their worth.

  6. Sea Mode

    Jeremy Fowler
    @JFowlerESPN
    ·4m

    All-Pro free agent linebacker Bobby Wagner visited the Baltimore Ravens today, per source. Ravens have high interest in Wagner, who also visited the Rams this week.

    • Rob Staton

      Says it all that he’s still looking for a home

      • Sea Mode

        Yup.

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        “HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!?!?” – Seahawk Fan Social Media

        • Rob Staton

          He had tackles!

          • Easy Answers Hard Choices

            LOL

      • Roy Batty

        I got into it with a coworker last week, who has a signed Wagner jersey under glass at home.

        I stymied him with that exact argument, Rob.

        I also pointed out that the Hawks won without him those last two games. The games that saved Pete’s job…for now.

    • Mick

      I could live much better with Bobby a raven than a ram.

      About DK, he seems to have the right mindset: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/seahawks-dk-metcalf-plans-on-embracing-leadership-role-in-2022-its-my-time-in-seattle-now/

  7. JJ

    Rob,

    What did you make of the Lockett trade talk after Russ was traded?

    • Rob Staton

      I thought it was bollocks, created by fake reporters

      • D-OZ

        Ditto!!

      • Rowdy

        Right, his contract and skill level make him way more valuable then you’ll get back on a trade.

  8. Ashish

    Rob, how do you keep track of Kenneth 2 page long question?

  9. Dregur

    It could very well be good PR, but DK is definitely pressing all the right buttons like he really wants to be here in Seattle, and that he likes being coached by Pete. Hell, he just endorsed Lock as the guy to replace Wilson without much prompting.

    • Rob Staton

      To me it looks like a man who is confident a deal is going to get done and is ready to be the face of the franchise

      • Sea Mode

        Agree

  10. Trevor

    Absolutely loving the Rebuild Podcast and all the amazing content Rob.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Trevor

  11. Jerry

    Excellent piece Curtis!

    The biggest takeaway: the Seahawks have options. The ramifications: they can and should ask for the moon for DK.

    Keeping him on the roster is a legitimate option, with the added caveat that they can simply extend him and trade him later. No rush.

    However, this offseason has been absolutely insane. Besides the teams you mentioned – Packers, Jets, Giants, Chiefs, Lions, and Bears – half the NFL would be interested. The Eagles have a need and tons of picks. For a guy like DK, I’d imagine that several teams that aren’t obvious to us right now would get involved. Houston? The Chargers? New England? Buffalo? He’d help most teams in the NFL. That makes a completely ludicrous bidding war a distinct possibility.

    I hope that Schneider is listening to offers. If I were them, I’d hold out for a trade that is just as lopsided as the Jamal Adams deal. Just like the Jets back then, the Seahawks have time on their side. A deal with draft picks this year and/or next would be great – and would open the pool of viable trade candidates considerably. Metcalf is cheap and young, and teams could lump 2022 and 2023 picks, maybe even players. The Seahawks’ roster is such a shitshow, its not like they need to have highly specific demands beyond: we want something that sounds stupid.

    With such a big pool of potential destinations – and keeping him around an absolutely fine option – the Hawks can afford to be unreasonable. If they engage in discussion about him, I hope they make demands that make most GMs shake their head. You only need one yes.

    • God of Thunder

      Agreed. “You need just the one yes.”

      There are simply too many poorly run franchises, with desperate to-make-a-splash GMs. Lean into the rebuil——er, renovation. Get 2 picks for DK, use one on a good D prospect and then grab a receiver.

  12. Forrest

    Excellent writeup. I’d do that deal! But, if we trade Metcalf, it needs to be to the Jets with #9 included. KC can keep their late first rounders. They just don’t have the same value.

    • D-OZ

      I would not do the trade until 2025. I think we could get the same return in draft compensation and probably more.
      Are you going to trade your #1 offensive weapon while bringing in an unknown QB? Drops Locks success rate by 50%. in my book.
      They are not going to do it without major compensation.
      If they trade DK they will even more talent barron ,which we already are…

  13. MyChestIsBeastMode

    For those who’ve followed my posts about my cousin, a small college OL garnering NFL interest, Sebastian Gutierrez. He’s been told by scouts he’ll be a guard or center though he played T at Minot State in North Dakota. He was a D2 2nd All-American. He was invited to do his pro-day at NDSU which he completed yesterday. He had a good day. I am so damn proud of this goofy kid who grew into a mountain of man.

    TEF: 3.20; wTEF: 98.56 (per my calculations)

    Measurements:
    H: 6′ 4 3/4″
    Wt: 308
    Hand: 10 1/2″
    Arm: 32 7/8″ (ugh! In selfishly hoping he’s nabbed by the Hawks, I know a sub 33″ makes it unlikely)
    Wing: 79 5/8″

    40: 5.10
    Vert: 31″
    Broad: 9′ 4″
    Bench: 28 reps
    Shuttle: 4.68
    3 Cone: 7.58

    Link to twitter with the results plus an imposing photo him flexing:
    https://twitter.com/MSUBeaversFB/status/1507151430796337155?s=20&t=TiCuZUkN9QFPnLcSqrwpoQ

    • Peter

      That’s awesome for him. Hope the nfl comes calling. Would be quite the change of pace from minot to pretty much any nfl city.

    • Sea Mode

      Wow, what an explosive athlete! Your TEF calculations are correct if his vert was 32.5″ as per the tweet and not 31″ like you wrote in the comment.

      Wouldn’t stress about 1/8″ missing on arm length; if they want to give him a shot, I don’t think that will stop them!

      Thanks for the update and continued best of luck to him!

      • MychestisBeastmode

        Yep, typo on my part with the 31 instead of 32.5.

        Vikings are flying him in to take a look in early April. Colts, Packers, and Seahawks showed interest over the last couple months too, in addition to a couple others that I cannot recall at the moment.

        Prior to pro day, he was told he’d land between 4th round and UDFA. I am hoping these numbers move him more firmly into the draft. Even though there are some benefits to UDFA.

        • Felipe

          I picked him with the ninth pick in the PFN mock draft simulator. He better produce.

  14. Gaux Hawks

    Brilliant, thank you!

  15. hobro

    Cha, you make a very compelling case that the Seahawks can afford him if they want him, and there’s lots to like about his game. The problem is there’s lots to dislike, too. The lack of self control has been an issue that I’m not sure he’s going to grow out of, and he has Luke Willson level-level boards for hands (Football Outsiders has him ranked 69th for catch rate in 2021, which is pretty damning for a receiver wanting first-tier compensation). If it were me I’d take the draft capital and move on.

  16. Peter

    Slight counter to the trade DK crowd….

    So the hope is trade the only star on the team bringing the total stars to zero. Then the guys behind such classics as “miss on nearly every draft pick but DK,” and the hit comedy “free agents won’t sign here,” are going to take all that stock and finally stop charlie browning themselves on draft day?

    I literally could get this argument if there was a new regime. Seriously. But in two years if PC/JS build for real, DK might be the only expensive player on the team. Quandre will probably be closer to done. JA will hopefully be moving on. And someone will wake up at the controls and realize you don’t need 4 million tied up in a blocking TE.

  17. Trevor

    I love DK and the fact that he wants to be a Seahawk is huge. The is the type of stud you build around. I just don’t see how you pay a WR $100 mil when you don’t have a starting RT, LT, C or QB

    This team need to rebuild the OL / DL then find a QB. Till then an elite WR like DK is a luxury IMO and a waste of resources.

    Sucks because he is exactly the type of guy you want to see get a second contract. If only PC/JS had not squandered draft capital / resources and created holes all over the roster.

    • Peter

      But they could get all that over two drafts and another free agency meaning you have DK as the high end luxury item for one season and a super valuable puece quickly moving forward.

      Paying him does not preclude building a better team.

      And if it does. Then the FO should go.

  18. Trevor

    The absolute least the Hawks should get in return for DK is #10 and #38 from the Jets. That should be the starting point for all negotiations draft value wise.

    • Rob Staton

      I doubt you’d get that.

      I think if it’s the Jets you can ask for the Tyreek offer, or maybe just 35 + 38

      Or you can ask for #10

      • Trevor

        If you are right Rob then I would not do the deal for #10 alone. That type of deal just allows the Hawks to replace one elite talent with another + the cap savings I guess but still not worth the risk.

    • Poli

      What about #10 with Becton?

      • Scot04

        #10 by itself is worth more than both the Adams & Hill Packages.
        Won’t get #10 + anything else.

        • Poli

          As it should it. Metcalf is younger and has a year left on his rookie contract

    • Signaturework@comcast.net

      Trevor;
      Jets offered 35, 38, & 69 to KC for Hill & #103 = 1227 points
      KC said they would have taken it, until they got the Dolphins offer.
      The Miami trade was 1092 points in 2022 + a 4th & 6th in 2023.
      So if Seattle got the same Jets offer we’d be sending Metcalf & #109 = 1239 points.
      Adam’s netted 1150 points for GB.
      Looks like the Jets had best offer on the table.
      0 chance we get 10 & 38 for 1820 points.

      If we were offered the same Jets package without having our pick #109 included, it would be tough to say no.
      Your looking at 1315 points which is realistic, but also likely about the most your getting.

    • SeattleLifer

      I don’t think they will. I think between DK being the type of receiver Pete has always wanted so badly, and the teamSeahawks organization needing a star player to hitch up to – that a deal will happen. And I’m guessing it will be costly and more player friendly than team friendly.

      • DriveByPoster

        At the moment I agree with SeattleLifer but reserve the right to completely change my mind at some later date with the benefit of hindsight!

        I didn’t think they would trade Russ because I didn’t think they would get an offer they thought good enough. In DKs case, I am pretty certain they will get the offers but I don’t think they will trade him anyway. Not because of his touchdown record nor because I think he is still only scratching at the depth of his talent and will continue to improve as a receiver for a good few years yet. Nope, it’s for his attitude, as embodied in that epic chase down of Budda Baker, that I think PC/JS will want to keep him.

        That kind of commitment, effort & never-say-die attitude is a pretty rare commodity. It’s the kind of will to win that you can build not just a team but a team ethic around. If the ‘hawks are re-tooling with a bunch of young players from the draft then those guys are going to need a player that they can look up to as a leader on the team. With Bobby & Russ gone, I think that player is DK.

    • Sea Mode

      I see his logic that it could be Frank Clark all over again: they love the player, hoped and planned to keep him, but the market at his position explodes and the return they get for him becomes simply too enticing to where they feel they can’t justify not trading him in the best interest of the team.

      That said, they epically failed replacing Clark with Collier. And as much as we like a few WRs in the draft, there’s no guarantee they will turn out to be anything like DK in terms of talent or production at the pro level. Heck, Eskridge was/is an exciting prospect and, due to several factors, contributed very little so far.

      We’ve been focused mostly on the contract/trade value thus far, but I’m interested in talking about Jake’s other point though: his value on the field. Did he get 10 TDs because of Russ or will he give you that pretty much regardless? Is he a weapon only able to be properly wielded by an elite QB or, on the other extreme, could he be an average QB’s best friend?

      How much of both his and Lockett’s production depends on each other drawing coverage away from the other, forcing the defense to choose?

      Truly a tough decision. And crucial that they get it right either way.

      • Sea Mode

        Also worth remembering when comparing with Clark in 2019 though is that the Seahawks were going into the draft with just four picks, a truly desperate situation. They also were juggling how to fit in his new deal alongside Russ’ new contract and an extension for Bobby.

        Now, we have an abundance of draft ammo and future cap space next year. So even though there are some similarities, the situations are quite different.

        • Rob Staton

          True

        • lil’stink

          I don’t disagree with his logic but considering his relationship to Wilson I’ll take everything he has to say about the Seahawks with a grain of salt now that Wilson is gone.

          I too think there’s a chance DK gets traded before the draft. This isn’t rocket science.

          I also think this could be Heaps attempting to poison the well, so to speak, either out of allegiance to Wilson or at his direction.

          • Denver Hawker

            Heaps been on the radio here a few times lately. Mostly talking about Russ’ offseason ‘camp’ with his WRs and what he brings to the org in terms of competitive drive, etc. he’s not shy about repeating the fact he’s Russ’ QB coach either. I like Heaps on the radio but he’s also 100% Russ entourage.

            • Rowdy

              Absolutely true, he’s a russ hype man. He has talked down about the hawks, not that it wasn’t unwarranted, but the only time he slights russ he describes it as a unsuccessful attempt at greatness. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to denver for work honestly.

            • Rob Staton

              He works with Russ but people are a being a bit over the top here.

              Jake is his own man with his own views

          • Rob Staton

            Jake Heaps isn’t trying to poison the well.

            Jake is his own man. Anyone suggesting he’s doing Wilson’s bidding from afar is an absolute mile off.

    • Easy Answers Hard Choices

      I completely agree. DK has exhibited frustration with Seahawks inability to get him the ball, even with RW as quarterback. While his implicit support for Drew Lock was admirable (and exhibited a certain amount of maturity), he’ll very soon become extremely frustrated when he realizes that Drew Lock is awful. AWFUL. I’ve watched tape of this guy – I just don’t see why anyone would be enamored with him. Skittish, happy feet, panicky, bad decisions, can’t throw on the run – basically Brock Osweiler.v2. What the Seahawks need now is a “folk hero” quarterback who can inspire and provide some hope regarding the future, and deflect from the absolutely stupefying, abject incompetence exhibited by Coach Wonka and his underling JS the past 5-10 years. Bridge doesn’t necessarily mean just competent game manager, but someone who can captivate fans – a player who can play above their measurables – think a re-incarnation of Dave Kreig. Unfortunately, JS and PC see to love measurables – probably just because they know they don’t have the intuition or ability to just pick good football players, period.

      If they could somehow see past that, their first move would be to acquire Gardner Minshew. But don’t count on it – they simply don’t have the stones to do something like this…..

      • Peter

        Draft Jack Coan in the fourth. Dude’s play to me is reminiscent of Alex Smith who before we all start rolling our eyes what would have Smith been had he not played for so many coaches and coordinators in his first years with the absolutely rubbish niners at the time?

        Agreed Lock isn’t a “bridge.” He’s a JAG and hopefully the plan is draft a qb next year with two firsts and a probable top five pick.

  19. Sea Mode

    Dang, his value sure fell off…

    Tom Silverstein
    @TomSilverstein
    ·6h

    #Packers deal with DL Jarran Reed is one-year, $3.25M with play time and sack incentives that could earn him another $1.25M. Includes a $1.865M signing bonus. There’s four voidable years, so his cap hit this year is $1.75 million. Basically, they’re paying $1.865M to take a look.

    • 12th chuck

      makes you wonder what the hell happened between him and js/pc because he would’ve more than likely been getting paid more than that on a restructured deal

      • BruceN

        I’ve thought about that. He made a bet and it failed badly for him and he’s ending up a journey man.

  20. pdway

    Among the reasons I’m solidly in the keep DK crowd – when you think about it, given his extraordinary physical gifts – DK is not only a high ceiling guy, he’s a pretty high floor guy too.

    As long as he doesn’t get hurt (and so far so good on that) – feels like there’s a very slim chance that DK turns into a bust during this next 4-5 year stretch of his career, almost no matter who the QB is. His size/strength/speed levels should always be able to get him to pretty good production.

  21. SeattleLifer

    Nice write up Cha, we’ll thought out.

    You touched on my biggest concern – him possibly wanting even more $. I could see his camp pushing the better numbers you talked about, his young age, his first year learning things and the foot injury last year – adding it all up and asking for a king’s ransom. And why not? The past few top tier players on our team all pushed things and got the highest contracts at their positions ever(Wagner, Russ, Adam’s etc), DK’s agent will undoubtedly think he can push for a record breaking deal imo.

    I think with the flaws in his game that he ~should~ only command somewhere around 18-19 million, but I think he and his agent will be holding on for much much more.

  22. MychestisBeastmode

    Rob, these podcasts are great! They’re almost relaxing. It’s like football ASMR, lol. Plus, the info, insight, and analysis are top notch. I feel so lucky that you fell for Hawks and not some other team or sport.

    • Rob Staton

      Thank you, appreciate it

    • MychestisBeastmode

      Cha, can’t leave you hanging either. Excellent article!

      I feel like I should be paying Athlon magazine, like I did years ago, for info this good 👍

      • cha

        🙏

  23. bmseattle

    Excellent, thorough, well thought out article, Cha.

    My gut tells me that a high priced, alpha-type WR is way more valuable to a team that is ready to contend, than a team that is in the beginning stages of a rebuild.

    What value are you really getting out of a high priced WR if the rest of your roster is one of the worst in the league?

    That said, I am intrigued by the prospect of Lock throwing to both DK and Lockett, and I “get it” that you have the money to spend, so you might as well keep one of the few blue chip guys on your team… regardless of position.

    Assuming DK wants to stay, and is willing to agree to a contract similar to the terms laid out in the above article, I think it makes sense to sign him.

    The caveat to that, of course, is if someone blows you away with an offer.
    Certainly, there is a price that makes a deal “worth it”, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we get offers that make the decision very difficult.

    For instance, if the Jets offered their a first this year and a first next year, I’d think you’d have to take that offer.

  24. New Guy

    Curtis,

    If you don’t mind me asking, what do you do for a living?

    .

    • cha

      Background in corporate accounting and cost accounting (not a shock right?). Nowadays I wear a few different hats between sales, customer service with a dash of database management.

      • New Guy

        Thanks Curtis,

        Your attention to detail and creativity with solutions to complex problems is very much noticed and appreciated here – as it most likely is in your professional life.

        .

        • pdway

          +1

  25. Denver Hawker

    It’s probably well known here now- I’m 100% in camp resign DK- I don’t even really care about the cost at this point. He’s the biggest x-factor this team has and Lockett ain’t no spring chicken.

    As good as receivers come in the draft, it’s still a bit of crap shoot. As good as Jefferson and CeeDee Lamb have become- Ruggs, Reagor, and Jeudy have so far wasted their talent. All went R1.

    • Roy Batty

      The fact that DK had a great game with Geno under center is the most telling thing for me.

      Any new QB is going to automatically focus on DK. He will still get his receptions and yards, and his YAC will continue to rise as he gets more savvy. Maybe more slants over the middle with someone more inclined to pass it there.

      But, I still think he gets traded if a massive offer comes in. And, this year, all bets are off on that.

      It’s been a wild one so far, and I’m pretty certain stuff will get even crazier come draft day.

      • Denver Hawker

        He may never be a 100/1500/15 slash WR, but I think he’s just as valuable to the Hawks right now as he is to any other team. Pete took his shirt for this guy. He lost Russ (and I believe Pete wanted Russ to stay), he’s not losing DK too.

        I’m not sure there is a price for DK, even two R1 maybe gets me tingly, but not enough.

  26. D-OZ

    DK is a rare rooster!!!

    • D-OZ

      He is suredly no rooster…

  27. D-OZ

    What the heck just happened ther?

  28. D-OZ

    Time to go NI-GHT :}

  29. Brik

    Is anyone else worried that DK’s contract is going to make Lockett want more? I can see Lockett wanting more up front if he sees DK get paid.

    I want to keep DK. He’s a #1 receiver who can win against #1 CBs. We have guys who can play football, there’s no point in giving up our biggest star. The ammo that the Russ trade gave us is plenty to help build the team. Always other moves that can be made during the season and free agency, after the core is built from the draft.

    One thing I think is proven is that JS is in charge of the team building now. PC might have some say, but Schneider is running the show. It may be harder to predict certain moves.

    • Denver Hawker

      Lockett turns 30 this year, I do t think he gets another deal from the Seahawks.

      • Brik

        Not a new deal. I know if I was putting up more yards and receptions than my counterpart and they just got 22 mil a year, I’d look at my contract and see that I’m only getting 10 this year and 16 next and wonder why they do me like that.

        • Peter

          Lockett is great. Always has been. He is also the biggest beneficiary of his running mate being the second most double covered reciever in the game after Davante Adams.

          Trading DK is going to make Lockett’s life hard as nails with as yet to be determined no recievers of note after him.

    • Rob Staton

      That’s not really Tyler’s style.

      And the Seahawks have really looked after him with contracts. Plenty complained they overpaid on his last two extensions. The market exploding isn’t Seattle’s fault and Lockett isn’t going to push this.

      • BruceN

        Jax did to the WR market what the Jets did to LB market a few years ago, right when we were negotiating with Bobby. Just exploded the market.

  30. samprassultanofswat

    To be honest. If the Hawks sign Metcalf to a 22mil per season deal. I am all-in. I would like to see what Drew Lock would do with this offense. He Shane Waldron as his play caller. Shane Waldron and Sean McVay did wonders with Jarred Goff. The Hawks are pretty well set at the skill position. Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Noah Fant, Wil Dissly, Rashaad Penny, Freddie Swain, D’Wayne Eskridge. Plus, there is a good chance the Hawks will find a solid running back in the draft. Also want to see what Corby Parkinson has to offer. Hawks do need a left tackle. Maybe a right tackle. Maybe.

  31. Ukhawk

    Great article Curtis!

    I’d like to see DK stay not least to attract decent players in free agency and get a rebuilt offense rolling more quickly. Unplayable on his day

    • cha

      Thanks UK.

  32. Chris

    What does everyone think of this PFN mock draft? It’s only the first 4 rounds. I know Rob loves to look at these every day 🙂

    Several trades first:

    Pick 9 traded for Picks 18, 49, and 99
    Pick 41 traded for Picks 57 and 89
    Picks 49 and 229 traded for Pick 54 and 111
    Picks 57 and 152 traded for Picks 61 and 93

    18. Jermaine Johnson DE/FSU
    40. Roger McCreary CB/Auburn
    54. Abraham Lucas OT/Wazzu
    61. Quay Walker LB/Georgia
    72. Kyler Jordan CB/Wazzu
    89. Justyn Ross WR/Clemson
    93. Dameon Pierce RB/Florida
    98. Derrion Kendrick CB/Georgia
    109. Bailey Zappe QB/Western Kentucky
    111. Jeffrey Gunter DE/Coastal Carolina

  33. James P

    This is an awesome article. Thank you Curtis – just reminds me how lucky we are to get all this premium content at SDB.

    • cha

      Thanks for reading James.

  34. Rowdy

    I’ve been in the trade dk camp since last year. It’s just based off the money. I just think he will cost to much and that was when it looked like it would cost 22 mil a year. Now it going to be 30 mil. I think 3 10 mil players or 2 15 mil players will be more beneficial. Especially with the draft picks in return that would have 2 first with one being a top 15 pick. That’s what I think you’d have to get to trade him.

  35. Spencer Duncan

    We aren’t short of available money next year and beyond, and its not like Metcalfs value is going to go down. With all of the draft picks available this offseason and next, lets re-sign Metcalf and reevaluate in 2 years.

    Its not like his value will go down at that point, if anything it might go up.

  36. Old but Slow

    Swerving a but off topic, but I am getting frustrated with draft simulators. They are entertaining and help pass the time while waiting for the draft, but they seem so unrealistic.

    Using the Rob’s Definitive Big Board as a guide, I have done sims on PFN, PFF, and Fanspeak, and in each case have been able to fill the whole card with first and 2d round players, with a couple of dips into the 3d round players for guys like Jack Coan, Eyioma Uwasurike, and Montaric Brown.

    Fanspeak offers several big boards to choose from, but I haven’t found one that is realistic. Could Rob offer one to them? That would be awesome!

    For user friendly, I prefer PFN, but I had one on there where I trade down to pick #23 and still got J Johnson, Abe Lucas, Cam Jurgens, Devonte Wyatt, Tindall, Jalyn Armour-Davis, Nick Cross, Dameon Pierce, Jack Coan, and Velus Jones Jr. That is just completely out to lunch.

    Just venting, but if anyone has any alternatives?

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve not enjoyed the draft sims this year. The rankings are all over the place.

      PFN’s a couple of years ago gave you a realistic sim and it was ace. But now? They’re too unrealistic.

    • Cover2

      I agree that the rankings on the draft simulators are all over the place with rankings. I do a few draft sims a day, and I don’t let myself draft players that unrealistically fall in the draft sim. So, if I trade down to #18 and J. Johnson is still available, I don’t take him and pretend like he already has been drafted. I do this with quite a few players in these sim drafts.

      • Old but Slow

        Good idea, I will try that.

  37. Ulsterman

    This is probably a stupid question, but can the seahawks go over the cap for now knowing that there are a number of players they can relase in June to get the money back?

    • Rob Staton

      Yep

      • hobro

        No, they can’t. The CBA is very clear that “no Club may have a Team Salary that exceeds the Salary Cap” (Article 13, Section 2) and that all forms of salary payment “… shall be included every day in determining a Team’s Team Salary” (Article 13, Section 5).

        Teams do have flexibility in the timing of transactions, though, so it’s possible (and commonly done) to announce the signing of a player but delay the actual signing until other moves have been made to open up the needed cap space.

        • Rob Staton

          There are literally five teams over the cap right now.

          • cha

            Teams cannot go over the current year cap. The league office has to approve all contracts, and they have compliance types to keep them in line. Teams can be over the cap officially for 7 days. If they do not make a move to get back under, the league can assess penalties. If it continues, the league could even step in and terminate player contracts.

            It’s important to note that sites like OTC and Spotrac are not official sources. They just collect the information that is available. Their numbers are a projection of the known information.

            It’s better than what we’ve had over the years but not a complete picture. For instance, Tyler Lockett and Jamal Adams have option bonuses that were probably due to be paid or converted in the last week. If they weren’t it rolls into future salary. We have no idea what the Seahawks have decided.

            Jason at OTC also immediately plugs rookie salaries into the cap, because they’re pretty well known from the CBA. They’re part of his cap calc because they should be. But they’re not official until the contracts are signed and submitted to the NFL. One team didn’t have enough cap to sign their draft picks and they didn’t until like 3 months after the draft!

            • Rob Staton

              Thanks for clearing up Cha

              • cha

                I’d pay a monthly subscription service if the NFL/NFLPA offered view-only access to the official database and the transactions.

    • Roy Batty

      I still think there will be a few more cuts, freeing more space. Especially if they go after an OT.

  38. Seahawkwalt

    Fantastic Cha! Thank you.
    Better scheme fit for 3-4… Sauce or Stingley? The Lisfranc injury may scare some teams.. Ive read most athletes return to baseline but some may hv persistent weakness, stiffness. Stingley reminds me of Revis, and Sauce, Sherman.

    • Peter

      Starting to think tackle is the pick at nine. Hopefully Penning over Cross.

      Rob got me hyped a bit for Sauce and Stingley. But I started to think if all the dline signings are a precursor to not going after Dline be it inside or edge early then the same could be applied to corner. With jones, burns, and Ford you could say that the team is set. I wouldn’t. But I could see the logic of going Tackle early.

      Especially now with Lock under center I see a big return to running the ball. Lock is a turnover machine and the easiest way to neutralize that is not let him make decisions.

      • Rob Staton

        There’s no value at taking tackle at #9

        Carroll said it’s a position of great concern last week for a reason

        • Peter

          I don’t love it. I’m just worried they are really backing themselves into a corner with the lack if options and their lack of dollars.

          • Rob Staton

            I wouldn’t worry too much

  39. SoZ

    It’s been mentioned here that the Seahawks are not as aggressive or creative in managing the cap as other teams… the question I have is whether they can really compete in the NFC with what other teams are doing now…for example the Rams resigning Stafford and all their best o-linemen it seems except for Whitworth AND ARobinson…or the Packers having a far better o-line under contract (albeit injured this year) and a better defense AND offering top dollar to ARodgers and Davante Adams… while the Seahawks struggle to pay a single decent cornerback decent money with Russ at a much lower cap number than Rodgers… so frustrating to see.

  40. SoZ

    It seems like the Seahawks have become like the Mariners used to be with all great players leaving. They seem to be sacrificed due to the PCJS drafting/trades/cap ineptitude to “help us get back into the draft.” The whole LoB left one by one due to injury or just not getting paid by them, then Frank Clark didn’t get paid here, traded to draft whom may I ask? Percy Harvin, Jimmy Graham (nonblocker for pro bowl center and high draft capital), Jamal Adams, then Russell, to draft whom? And now DK may be the latest casualty of this strange combo of hyper cap conservativism and aggressive draft trading. What if they were to switch it around and conserve draft stock carefully while using the cap aggressively? And why did PCJS get another vote of confidence from Jody Allen? How many strikes does it take for them to strike out?

    • Peter

      Re: Jody Allen.

      I have very little hope that this FO is getting anything right any time soon. Yes they’ve filled some holes but have serious questions at positions along with their “mid dollar for mid player,” aquisition policy.

      Whether this is true or blind hope from a long time fan, Brock Huard made mention a while back that there is a no sell clause from the city that doesn’t expire until 2024-2025. If that is true I believe that Jody Allen is more than comfortable with pc/js at the helm until that time and their contract extensions align mostly with this.

      Additionally beyond finding a buyer or buyer group that would be approved by the NFL the sale of the broncos would most likely need to be finalized before Seattle can begin the process.

      The hope against hope? The FO nails the draft and at least makes this team fun again. Whether you’re pro or con Wilson I’ve been bored to death of watching a rerun play out for a few years. Turn on the game and the feckless defense generates no pressure, no turnovers, long as infinity drives from middling qb’s. Infinite oline alignments and piss poor running. And if Wilson has a bad or even mid tier game it’s a loss.

    • Roy Batty

      I would love to tell you that them failing badly this season would be the last nails in their coffins, but, with this ownership group I think we are stuck with these guys until A) a new owner B) Pete just decides to fall on his sword and retire.

      A new owner would clean house. They almost always do, no matter the sport.

      Pete retiring would open the door for Allen to dump Schneider. With Pete gone after another bad season, she would have no reason to keep Schneider.

      • Rob Staton

        Everyone knows where I stand on Pete & John

        But this team has made its bed now. They can’t let PCJS use all this 2022 stock and then make changes after a year. PCJS need three years to make a contender. It was either that or move on this off-season.

        • Peter

          This is a great point as well considering how long a leash these two probably have.

          • Sea Mode

            IMO there is no way they didn’t ask Jody for at least 2-3 years when they pitched the Russ trade.

          • Big Mike

            They ain’t going anywhere until their contracts are over, sadly.

          • SoZ

            I think you’re right that Matt Corral could be successful in a Jimmy G type role. And like Jimmy I think he’ll have his share of injuries. That seems like one of the safest plans for success if you don’t have a Pat Mahomes at qb. But the Seahawks won’t have multiple high first rounders on the Dline. It’s recommended repeatedly on this blog…they could’ve at least given fans a glimmer of hope this time with some impact signings on the Oline and Dline instead of ignoring what they obviously need to do, season after season… did Nwosu, Blythe, QJeff, and Shelby Harris move the needle?
            Pass rush by committee? But the question is can any of them take over…
            Clint Hurtt: We need a game wrecker. JS: Okay, that’ll be one blocking tight end and a second big safety contract coming right up!

            Seriously just get Rob and Curtis in the front office. Pete looks energized but John looks burned out…and seemed a bit miffed with Pete during their joint presser.

        • Tomas

          In other words, Seahawk fans are royally screwed.

  41. TomLPDX

    Excellent article, Curtis. Thanks for all the effort to educate us about the possibilities.

    Rob, really loving the podcasts, short and to the point. This place just continues to get better and better!

    • Peter

      💯

      • Roy Batty

        Of all the articles I have read, podcasts and radio interviews I have listened to, Curtis has done THE BEST job at running down the numbers and trade options.

        A great breakdown, where you walk away much, much better informed on the situation.

        • cha

          Thanks that means a lot Roy!

    • cha

      Cheers Tom

  42. BruceN

    Earlier I read in one of the mock drafts that all three top quarterbacks could be off the board by number 11 pick. Can’t help thinking about Rob’s article with Scot McCloughan earlier saying the QB’s in this draft are 3rd round prospects. I hope we’re not one of the teams reaching.

    • Peter

      Would be awesome for the hawks if teams get wild and start reaching on three QB’s before is.

      Would leave a lot of talent on the board for Seattle to decide from.

      • BruceN

        I agree. That would be ideal for us. We can trade down a few spots if we miss on the top Edge rushers and pick up extra picks and still get great value picks.

    • Roy Batty

      Some of the mocks, by national networks (like CBS Sports) have been head scratchers.

      They run the gamut, from QB’s flying off the board, to Edge rushers making it into the 20’s, to 5 offensive linemen off the board in the top ten.

      Half the time I look at them as just clickbait mocks trying to get a rise out of fans.

      • Rob Staton

        The CBS mocks have been horrendous for years. No idea what they’re doing over there.

      • BruceN

        You’re right. Honestly, I just look at them for fun but put little value in them.

  43. Big Mike

    Listening to ESPN radio this morning and an ask Mel Kiper segment. He said to watch for Abe Lucas “late first ir early second”. So then, one of the “big gun” draft guys is saying what we’ve heard here from Rob for a couple of months now. Kudos to Kiper for seeing the kid’s potential.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Mike for posting this

      Pretty much every high profile draft site is churning out the same opinions

      And they’ve all been wrong, wrong, wrong on Lucas

      • Starhawk29

        Watched Thibodeaux against WSU and Lucas stood out constantly. Honestly wondered aloud why no one was talking about him other than you. He was so clearly an NFL tackle an average Joe like me could see it.

        • Rob Staton

          He also had by far the best combine among offensive linemen during on-field drills

      • Denver Hawker

        I might be confused with someone else, but I could swear he was consistently mocked R1 on a few early boards, then just disappeared entirely for months.

        • Roy Batty

          It seems that they placed him high early, then saw other boards and jumped on the bandwagon disregarding him in favor of the new, shiny first rounders others had up there.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Damn, had hoped Lucas would stay under the Kiper’s radar.

      Oh well, so much for Lucas at 40/41.

  44. V

    “Former University of Miami and University of Houston quarterback D’Eriq King is drawing interest from NFL teams as a slot receiver with the versatility to play quarterback, especially as a red-zone threat on running plays.”

    “Beyond an invitation to the Miami Hurricanes Pro Day, King (5-foot-9, 196 pounds) has drawn interest from the Buffalo Bills, Dallas Cowboys, and Seattle Seahawks, according to a league source.”

    https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1507741333611495430?s=20&t=ZuKC9QI6IwTSvmhmpsHn7g

    • GoHawks5151

      As a Miami fan, King is not the answer at QB but he is a ball player. He has played a little of everything too. On a young team and a rebuilding year he would be fun

  45. Happy Hawk

    Embrace the Tank just like the other J Allen team the Blazers! Try hard and lose by 30 with inferior talent. Trading DK would continue the talent deconstruction we are currently witnessing. Lose for Levis.

  46. Blitzy the Clown

    I don’t hear you unless you knock, Curtis.

    I mean, fantastic article!

    One question though:

    Three seasons at $43.92m (or an AAV of $14.64m) plus a $10.4m dead cap hit in 2025

    Wouldn’t three seasons of your sample contract be at $45.92m?

    Either way, I sincerely hope DK is extended. I said in a previous comment about DK that I’m mostly interested to see how he handles the mantle of roster leader, now that the position is vacant and presumably his for the taking. And he’s taking it. And I’m here for it.

    Thanks again for the excellent article.

    • cha

      Yes you are correct. Thanks for catching that.

      Thanks for the kind words also.

  47. Mike

    I think I’d probably have Dk play out his contract if he doesn’t accept a dj moore like deal.

    As far as Seahawks trading history with big time pass catchers:
    Joey Galloway
    Percy Harvin
    Deion branch
    Jimmy graham

    Not saying they should trade him but it’s pretty clear from those trades that the team getting the draft picks won the trade.

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