Video: QB starts, JSN usage, Seahawks & QB scouting


  1. Palatypus

    I agree that you should not throw rookie quarterbacks into the Lion’s den.

    You should throw them in the Charger’s den.

    • LouCityHawk

      As long as it isn’t the brown’s den

      • Palatypus

        Is that the bathroom at the Pittsburgh airport?

    • Jimmy J

      I like how Penix goes through his reads and his pocket awareness/ composure.

      I love how he uses different arm angles to complete passes and his accuracy. The td to Westie almost sidearm was beautiful.

      Mahomes made a Ton of bonehead throws at TT and reason he didn’t go top 5.

      You can coach up Penix but where do you find a Michael vick arm and accuracy. Penix is a surgeon out there and you can always nit pick throws but his incompletions are throwing the ball away not missing a receiver.

      Husky receivers aren’t running free and when they are, the ball is on the money 30 yds with a flick of his wrist.

      Penix does benefit from the 50/50 balls odunze, polk and McMillan snag but the passes are on the money 50 yds down field.

      I think Penix deserves a lot of LOVE! Penix is amazing.
      I was at MSU and you could see the control, composure, pocket presence that is rare.

      I will take that arm talent, sit him for a year and coach him up. He’s AMAZING!!

      • Rob Staton

        I don’t recognise this review of Penix — and I speak as someone who has talked consistently positively about him.

        He isn’t making a lot reads in this system and he doesn’t need pocket awareness because he’s barely ever touched. He is not a ‘surgical’ passer. He is playing in one of the extreme-spread systems that create a lot of easy completions. He has a lot of deep-ball shots too — but we’re not talking about any need to be ‘surgical’ within this scheme.

        It’s not nit-picking to highlight these aspects or issues on certain throws. He spent the first two weeks overthrowing on some downfield shots (he just did) and against Michigan State there were a fair amount of throws that made life difficult for the receivers and because they are so talented, they bailed him out somewhat. Then there was the certain interception (which would’ve been ugly) that a defender mishandled, tipped into the air and was caught by a receiver (who ran it in for a very fortunate score).

        He does have an outstanding arm and he completes ‘wow’ passes every game to the sideline that many won’t even consider. Yet we have to be truthful here. In the NFL he is not going to be untouched and facing so little pressure like he is at UW. He’s not going to be throwing to receivers who are 10x better than the defenders they’re facing. He is going to need to do a lot more processing pre and post snap and he isn’t going to get a nice mix of open options over the middle and deep-throws. He’s going to need to become the surgeon you speak of, which simply isn’t part of life in his current system.

        This is all a fair review of what he is. He has outstanding tools but there is context that needs to be heard too.

  2. ShowMeYourHawk

    Well, the Tyreke Smith experiment is over…

    • cha

      Dumb move. With Boye Mafe held out last week?

      For Artie Burns? A 4th Tight End? And with Kyu Blu, that Las Vegas LB that was a “steal” and the OT from TB who hasn’t played on the roster?

      He better end up on the Practice Squad.

      • Peter

        New TE to play OLB?

        • Palatypus

          Box safety?


      • Gaux Hawks

        Cha, what is our club control for TE Brady Russell ??

        2024 Draft Hedge (maybe someone they liked in 2023) ?

        Felt like Smith was a hedge against releasing Taylor in 2024… oh well.

        • cha

          He’s a rookie so they’ve got 3 years of club control.

          But that assumes they even want to use a roster spot on him long-term.

          • Elmer

            2 OL rookies and 1 TE rookie all poached off of other practice squads. Really? if you are looking for OL depth because of injuries, wouldn’t you look for a proven track record? If these rookies were great why were they on practice squads instead of active rosters.

            Maybe the moves have more to do with cost savings.

      • cha

        And now Mike Morris is on IR with the shoulder that’s been bugging him all offseason.

        Cutting Tyreke Smith makes even less sense now.

        • Rob Staton

          This is fine meme

        • Elmer

          Doesn’t seem to make sense. It must mean that something else is in the works.

          • cha

            Could be, but feels like the time they cut a guy then went ‘whoops, didn’t mean to do that.’

            I think it was when they were playing footsie with Josh Gordon.

            • Brodie

              They cut a DL a few years ago so they could add a special teams guy for a TNF game (if memory serves). The Vikings claimed him off waivers and we ended up eating dead cap and being down a DT.

              Sometimes they get way too friggin cute with their moves. As you said… “for who?” a 4th TE?

              Only way this makes much sense is if one of our TE’s is going to miss multiple weeks.

        • Ben

          What’s up with drafting injured players?

    • Gaux Hawks

      4D CHESS ??

    • LouCityHawk

      Talking about Prez trade, contract, injury and play is so 2022

      Talking about the stubborness of trying to make Darrell Taylor happen at the cost of all else, so 2023

      • UkAlex6674

        Over reaction much? It’s not like we’ve let go a perennial PB or AP……

        • LouCityHawk

          Hated the pick

          Think he is at best a situational, rotational pass rusher depth piece.

          He is so bad against the run that teams will target him in 3rd and long because they know he is incapable of setting an edge!

          I’m sure he is a nice guy, good teammate, but ffs

  3. vanhawksfan


    What do you think about Jer’Zhawn Newton as a replacement for Mario Edwards? I know that he lacks length but there is a bit of a Calijah Kancy vibe to his play. Thank you for all of the great writing.

    • Rob Staton

      That’s not the comp that comes to mind personally. He plays a lot of DE. He flashes well, athletic. Can swim and do all of that. Good player. But also a lot of average snaps too

      • vanhawksfan

        So more of a 4-3 defensive end? Not really a scheme fit for the Hawks?

        • Rob Staton

          No they are using him at end a lot but he has the body type to play inside.

        • geoff u

          Who is or isn’t a scheme fit or not fit for the Hawks at this point?

          • James

            idk, know any basketball players you wanna try out? we used to be keen on that.

  4. geoff u

    They are also using Anthony Richardson in the run game, which is getting him killed. Two injuries in two games running the ball, though I think the second was a scramble where he was blitzed and there was no hot read. They appear to be scheming ways to get him injured.

    • Seattle Person

      I’ve seen their games and Ant does a lot to injure himself too…More times than not he’s finishing a run like a RB….

      • geoff u

        That’s definitely true as well, shades of RGIII. That run were he was concussed especially, looks like he expected to walk in and then WHAM. Gotta protect yourself, bro. I think this could also comes down to coaching too. Have to teach him these things before you throw him out there and he’s playing on pure instinct.

  5. LouCityHawk

    I really would like to see one of those research oriented people do the work on QBs who were drafted and started right away versus QBs who sat with the idea of starting versus QBs who were thought of as backups, but became starters.

    My guess would be that QBs drafted with the idea they would sit for a year to three before starting have a high hit rate.

    I suspect immediate starters would have lower success rates than long term backups.

    This all makes a ton of sense in a real world sense, also bad franchises are the ones that Draft QBs high, and they are highly incentivized to start them right away and try to exploit the market savings as a way to jumpstart a turnaround.

    • BK26

      I think the only knock would be that the better the quarterback as a prospect, the more likely that they were to start immediately. I can’t really think of anyone lately that sat and is an upper echelon quarterback. Other than Mahomes.

      • CHaquesFan

        Love is looking good, Rodgers sat, Hurts sat for most of a year, probably a lot mkre

        • BK26

          I wasn’t considering as far back as Rodgers. Hurts wasn’t considered the QBOTF at the time, I think they were having him be the insurance policy.

          Love is a possibility. He’s at least proof of the plan of sitting them since you never know with an older QB1.

          • Peter

            Another variable to consider. We’re they considered QBOTF or person of interest?

            I suppose if Pete and or John moves from Geno in say two to three years and Lock can come in and do it on backup plus money you can start to see a case for developing.

            I think Robs overall point is completely correct. The cap control is awesome when it works which not nearly as often as burning through misses at QB when teams get it wrong.

      • Peter

        While a cool project to tackle I think there’s too many variables.

        The names in broadly modern times I could come up as developmental players: ( that did actually play )

        Steve Young

        I’m sure there’s been more. I’m not listing the mike whites who play accidentally and then get dumped on their butt.

        I’m not listing our very own Geno who did definitely get time to develop but not when he was drafted.

        Notice a pattern btw. The qbs selected to truly be developed extend from two connected coaching trees.

        • Big Mike

          Carson Palmer sat for a year behind I believe Jon Kitna

          • Peter

            Nice pull!

            • Big Mike

              I might be old brother

          • Palatypus

            Since they both entered the league in 1996, it is quite possible that Lawyer Milloy sat behind Jon Kitna at Lincoln High School in Tacoma.

    • Jeff

      Hey I’m a research oriented person (data scientist by day).

      It’s unlikely such a study would reveal much of interest, unfortunately.

      * Talent matters more than anything else; you have to control for that as a coviariate
      * There are a *lot* of other covariates that matter: situation, players around them, etc etc.
      * The relevant sample size (really just a handful of guys each year) is too small.

  6. Blitzy the Clown

    I said Will’s off to as good a start as he had his rookie season

    PFF SEA Seahawks @PFF_Seahawks

    Will Dissly: highest graded TE in the NFL this season – 81.0 📈

    11:12 AM · Sep 20, 2023

    • Peter

      Uncle Will has always been good. Hope he can keep it going.

      • James

        he’s unfortunately just had Grandpa Will knees 🙁

        • STTBM

          ….aaand he’s hurt yet again. That’s why they cut Smith to make room for a 4th TE.

  7. Blitzy the Clown

    The Prime effect

    PAFootball @jasrifootball

    Colorado’s coaching staff is about to get even more stacked: #NFL hall of fame defensive lineman Warren Sapp says that he’s planning to join the team’s coaching staff for the 2024 season, via

    “Imma get everything, get the paperwork, and go to work. When you have a quarterback like Shedeur, and my DLine will go hunt the other quarterback, our chances of winning just went through the roof.”

    Full Video Here:

    • Peter

      This is really something else.

    • MarkinSeattle

      Can Sapp coach? We know he can talk, but it doesn’t look like he has ever been a coach before.

  8. cha

    …aaaand, Mike Morris is done for the year.

    • Peter


    • Rob Staton

      Gosh darn it

      We never could’ve anticipated DL depth being an issue

      • Alex

        Almost like that’s why they drafted a few guys on the dline. Injuries happen duder.

        • Peter

          So they drafted Mike Morris because Mike Morris would be out for the rest of the season.

          Depth was already an issue for a thin dline group.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        To use a football term, feels like we’ve been blindsided

        *pinches nosebridge*

        • Rob Staton

          I for one am shocked

          I guess Jarran Reed will just have to play 100% of the snaps from now on

          Get the man an ice bag for those calf muscles

          • cha

            100% if we’re lucky.

            I think something more in the range of 120%.

            • Peter

              No biggie. Just 32% of defensive snaps need to be split up.

  9. Blitzy the Clown

    Something’s rotten in Chi town

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

    Bears’ DC Alan Williams resigned this afternoon. He will not return to the team.

    1:12 PM · Sep 20, 2023

    • Rob Staton

      A shambles

      Everyone I know connected to that team has been acting like all their decision making has been spot on since the new GM/coach came in

      I think they’ve been bloody awful. I mean, they traded a high R2 for Chase Claypool

      Plus Fields has never had it — there’s another view I took some grief about back in the day

      Awfully run franchise facing another massive rebuild soon

      • Blitzy the Clown

        I don’t follow them so I wouldn’t know much beyond the headline

        But I do know, this is not what I want my franchise QB doing

        I don’t even know how to explain this

        • BK26

          And he just threw his coaches under the bus too. Makes sense since they didn’t tell him where 3 open receivers were on that play.

      • JAFreeman

        Yes, Rob, I need to thank you for your Fields eval as I was able to get off of him at top value this off season in two fantasy leagues, so thank you for that!!!!

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Bummer. If today’s roster moves indicate the new precedent, we should apologize to him now for his release next season.

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        🤦🏽‍♂️ Reply fail.

        Meant for the Morris link.

  10. Ben

    I didn’t realize there was so much depth at QB coming up in the draft. Gives me some hope that they may finally pull the trigger. A rookie backup would be a nice way to get some cap savings.

    The JSN target range is a head scratcher. It negates his strength as a route runner. Whenever I see those line of scrimmage throws, it reminds me of Golden Tate turning those throws into yardage. Remember him juking defenders and picking up 10 yard gains.

    There used to be a lot of talk from coaches about putting players into position to use their strengths. Seems now like they’re trying to force players to fit into the system. The secondary is a jumble of good players that too often look lost on the field.

    • BK26

      Has to be a qb that matters. Depth does no good if there isn’t anyone worth it (could push your guy along for a bit if another team or two fancies someone else).

      The cap savings is nice, but I want a kid that can be the difference maker first.

      • Ben

        For sure. A backup for year 1 and/or 2 then a starter. I am a proponent of letting a rookie sit first.

        • BK26

          Especially when you have the situation to do it. I have no idea why it’s such an adverse option to not have them play immediately.

  11. cha

    I think you have a valid concern about JSN’s target depth, Rob.

    The Seahawks (yes, based on small sample) have tried the same dumb thing with Dee Eskridge. Instead of taking advantage of his route running and contested catch strengths, they’ve essentially tried to turn him into an “at-the-LOS-gadget” type player.

    So there is precedent for your point.

    • geoff u

      But have we considered making him an in-line blocker yet?

      • Big Mike

        Box Safety?

        • geoff u

          No one ever expects the box safety transition

          • Big Mike

            4D chess yet again

          • cha

            Amongst our weapons: 2 first round picks, a massive contract, a scheme twisted like taffy, and a fanatical devotion to the concept

    • Rob Staton

      I was going to make that point in the video and forgot

      They had no idea how to get the most out of Percy when he played, they struggled with Eskridge and Jimmy Graham. They need to use JSN as a proper receiver not a LOS type

      • Ben

        I sure hope JSN doesn’t end up in that group when we look back. Drafting bpa available only works if you know how to use them.

    • Odium

      Wonder how much they be using him as decoy? Maybe his wrist (thumb?) isn’t 100% healed?

      • Rob Staton

        Then sit him and play Bobo as a decoy

    • bmseattle

      This has been driving me crazy, as well.
      JSN’s strength is getting open over the middle, not bubble screens.
      This isn’t how to utilize a 1st round WR who is “always open”.

    • Pran

      They will probably ruin him like Eskridge. Dude got injured so many times executing same plays.

  12. Rob Staton

    A lot of people asking about Jer’Zhan Newton

    I just watched the Penn State game and that was his best performance I’ve seen. Very active, very difficult to block. A strong game

    • Denver Hawker

      Yep, that game really jumped out for me. If he can continue to play like that, he’s a very exciting prospect. Would be even cooler if he gained 15-25 lbs. Arms don’t look super long either, but plays with decent leverage still so I can see why someone might see a Kancey comp.

  13. Andy Heck 66

    I think JSN is hurt and cannot be trusted to catch long passes now. Hopefully he will ramp up to better route tree in a few weeks. Probably still pretty hurt for 1-2 more.

    • Group Captain Mandrake

      If he’s hurt enough that he can’t run routes that end up with him more than 5 yards down the field, he shouldn’t be playing. He’s a talented kid and so far they are wasting him.

      • Peter

        Like Rob I’m not an X’s and O’s guy ( while he proceeds to watch 5-6 games of college a week, goes on to break down why a college scheme might not work in the pros,)

        But if he was injured still but can play I would think you’d want him in a little space rather than dlinemen, ends, and attacking LOS db’s just sitting there to tee off on him.

    • GrittyHawk

      What about a wrist injury makes him unable to catch a long pass vs a short pass? Not sure I’m following your train of thought here.

  14. cha

    I can’t muster much enthusiasm for Season of Boom I’m afraid.

    Maybe it’s because we already have the Rain City Redemption series.

    Maybe it’s because the two main players have made such a hash of this team the last 4 seasons.

    Maybe it’s because I live at ground zero and we’ve had so many celebrations of that team shoved down our throat as opposed to having an honest conversation about the state of the current team.

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve not watched it TBH

    • Peter

      Saw that in my YouTube feed and thought pretty much what you just said.

    • Brodie

      I started it – thinking it was about this season.

      After I realized it was just another mashup of ‘the old gang’ talking about how they were the greatest defense in history, I made it another 3 minutes or so.

      Hard to get too excited for a movie you’ve watched 50 times and is 10 years old.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      I’ve thought it was enjoyable, so far. I don’t mind reliving the glory days, so long as the organization doesn’t try to coast on the past for another decade, ala the M’s. At least the Hawks can celebrate a championship, whereas the Mariners have nothing but dust on their mantle.

      • Justaguy

        So you are good with one decade of “coasting” just not two?

        • ShowMeYourHawk

          Yep. That’s exactly what I said. Good on you for taking your frustration. Have a blessed day.

    • James

      Skip it and go straight to Doug Baldwin’s interview with KJ. It’s intense.

  15. Big Mike

    Of all the players they struggled to use properly as cha mentioned above, Jimmy Graham is number one on my list. He was basically a wide receiver playing TE and they tried to make him an inline TE. It was insane.

    • Ben

      They tried to turn him into a blocking TE. His body language was of someone who had given up on his coaches’ leadership. Been a few players who’ve left here taking shots at our schemes.

      • Elmer

        Why do they like TE’s so much? It seems like they are often bringing in TE’s when filling other positions seems like a better idea for the team, And the signings usually don’t amount to much.

  16. Ben

    Real early, but how many 1st round grade QB’s, and how many looking like 2nd rounders?
    Question for anyone studying them.
    I’ve watched a few of them. Definitely not a talent evaluator though.

  17. Peter

    Hope this is nothing but just heard Corbin Smith say Will Dissly is dealing with a shoulder injury and was held out of practice.

    • Gross MaToast

      Is it a legit shoulder?

      • Justaguy

        Just something he needs to work through… for 4 weeks

        • Peter

          I like how it’s all jokes here.

          But yeah held out of practice for some shoulder thing.

          • Brodie

            Considering they cut a DL (right before declaring another DL out for the year) to make room for a practice squad TE from Philly… I think it’s probably more than just a little something.

            • Peter

              Which sucks cause he was starting strong and a big part of the Curhan/Forsythe success.

  18. Gross MaToast

    My date and I were kicked out of a performance of Beetlejuice over the weekend and as I was leaving the theatre, it hit me – this team is currently being run according to the results of a front office game of Mad Libs. It’s the only rational explanation.

    • 509 Chris

      This may be the funniest thing I’ve read in months!

    • Big Mike

      (This isn’t political but rather involves a politician….)

      So Gross, did you and your date get booted for doing that Lauren Bobert thing at the play?
      (Or was that your subtle way of referencing that incident indirectly)

      • Big Mike

        And am I just slow but sure?

        • Peter

          Gross just thought if it’s good for the goose it’s good for the Gross.

          How are any of us to know when we go to musical theater for a date that you’re not supposed to run on stage with just a maverick hat yelling “it was always creed humphries!!”

          • Sea Mode


    • Palatypus

      If you have watched Drawn Together, you know that the answer to every blank space in Mad Libs is “penis.”

  19. vanhawksfan

    Rob, here is the profile for Penix from the ProFootball Network website, home of Tony Pauline. Thoughts, especially on the lack of arm strength?

    Penix first broke out at Indiana in 2019, but injuries and inconsistent play led to burning out at the school. But he landed at Washington and immediately became a star again, completing 65.3% of passes for a whopping 4,641 yards, 31 touchdowns, and eight interceptions. The lefty pocket passer proved to be a Heisman contender and NFL talent.

    There’s a lot to like about Penix, as he’s an accurate, smart thrower who knows his own limitations and overcomes his average arm strength. His passing motion has improved greatly as he uses touch to deliver passes into the hands of his playmakers. He’s also willing to let his tremendous receivers go to work, trusting them in contested coverage.

    The concern with Penix is his lack of physical traits. As Teddy Bridgewater did as a prospect and pro, Penix struggles to drive the ball into tight windows, and his passes hang just long enough to be a problem in the NFL. He’s not a runner and, therefore, he must be dominant from the pocket to be a plus NFL starter.

    A very good collegiate player, Penix projects as a high-floor backup to a lower-end starter at the next level. That earns a late Day 2 grade. – Ian Valentino, 8/22/2023

    • Denver Hawker

      Not Rob- also not wrong

    • BK26

      Bingo. Not saying he’s remotely similar to Bridgewater, but I could see them having similar careers. I think his game wasn’t supposed to translate well to the NFL. One worry for Penix: how much can he do despite of the system.

    • Rob Staton

      I would suggest not paying much attention to Ian Valentino’s work if he thinks Penix’s physical tools aren’t other worldly

      He has a golden arm

  20. Robert Las Vegas

    Rob I have a question for you it seems like in today NFL there isn’t any middle class players in the league most teams pay 10 sometimes a little bit more 10 million dollars a year or more and the rest of the roster has guys making 4 million or less.i can’t imagine anything major happening at NFL trade deadline unless Arizona moves budda baker.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s a fair point. The league has become top heavy in that regard

  21. Cambs

    Obviously there are good years and bad years for every position but I’m curious whether there’s a story to be told from the 2024 QB class and looking on down the line whether there’s been a leveling-up of QB development from the youth/HS level sufficient to change QB supply in the league generally — as in, it’s not necessarily just this one great class, but we expect the overall pool of QB quality to be less incredibly shallow in future years than it has been.

    I’ve no opinion on this either way, but if there really end up being 10+ day 1/2 QBs … and then we’re looking ahead to a Sanders-led 2025 class, a Dante Moore-led 2026 class, and what seem like a good bunch of freshmen arriving on campus next year, then that feels like fodder for draft season futurecast pieces about a coming sea change.

  22. CL

    Regarding JSN, just saw something interesting:

    Jaxon Smith-Njigba is currently averaging 4.6 yards of separation on every route he’s ran so far this season.
    That’s 2nd best among all WR’s and 4th best in the ENTIRE league.

    • STTBM

      Glad others are noticing Seattle won’t throw him the ball downfield. It’s freaking criminal. They are treating him like a raw division 2 UDFA, not a guy they thought was a top 5 pick.

      Target depth sucks for JSN. Get him the damn ball…

    • Big Mike

      Get the guy the ball down the field for heaven’s sake.

      • geoff u

        Seriously. I wonder if they’re waiting for his hand to heal, and just sending him out on routes as a decoy/dummie role to get the live in-game experience?

    • Gaux Hawks

      …to be fair, the DBs are also five yards off the LOS

    • Jeff

      As others have mentioned, this is because he’s running very shallow routes.

      I assume this is due to his injury, though I’m not sure. I honestly wonder if the whole “Russ won’t throw the middle crossers” was really a Russ thing at this point, or if it’s just the way Pete likes the offense to be structured. It’s not as if Geno’s hitting them a ton.

  23. dahveed

    Chemistry it takes awhile . Having played Qb its weird how in my head i could see where the reciever I new was running without even looking. Correct me but wasnt Lock throwing most to JSN in preseason

  24. cha


    Joe Person
    Andy Dalton will address media at the podium in about 20 minutes or so, which would seem to be an indication of what way the Panthers are leaning.

    • Peter

      Red Rifle strikes again

    • Ground_Hawk

      Shoot. Now Carolina will probably have 400+ air yards lol

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      1-2 incoming? Smells like career days for Thielen and Hubbard ahead.

    • Big Mike

      Is Young hurt? If not, this is a huge mistake on their part.

      • cha

        He is. Ankle

        • Big Mike

          Ok thanks cha. Makes more sense now. If like last year we can’t stop their run game, my 90 year old mother could be the QB and we’d still be in a bad place.

      • Peter

        Heard that Dalton is 3-1 against the hawks.

        • Rob Staton

          He has a much better chance of beating us than Young IMO

          • Peter

            Finally watched the highlights and young really does look lost right now.

            • Rob Staton

              He looks totally lost, like a deer in headlights. I think his brain is scrambled and he just needs to take a step back and have a moment.

              This isn’t totally surprising. There must be a lot of pressure being the #1 pick especially when a team trades a fortune for you.

              The Panthers need to manage him carefully though. Whatever they’ve been doing hasn’t worked.

              • Elmer

                Young’s durability has been a concern since before the draft. We will see if his body can take the NFL pounding.

            • cha

              Watch Points stat that I dug out of the trashcan:

              Bryce Young on throws longer than 10 yards in the first two weeks:

              6 for 21 with zero TD and two INT.

              You better be an 80% passer in the 1-10 yard range to even that out.

              Hint: He’s not.

  25. Blitzy the Clown

    I enjoy a good Baldy’s Breakdown, and this is a good one because it demonstrates the coaching staff recognized a potential mismatch problem and schemed to address and overcome it.

    Would that they could do this in all facets of their game.

    • Palatypus

      Maybe this is why we waived Tyreke and signed another TE.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Why not just convert him tho?

  26. Palatypus

    Our good friend Shawn Hocculi has got the 49ers game tonight.

    We get Ron Torbert this week. There are two women on this crew so expect a lot of flags for things that happened 20 years ago.

    • UkAlex6674


      I don’t know why I’m laughing so much. You speak nothing but the truth about the calls……

    • geoff u

      That’s just rude, Palatypus, everyone knows women don’t like laundry strewn all over the place

      • Palatypus

        All I’m saying is that Bryce Young might get flagged for pooping his huggies.

    • Palatypus

      “I’m talking to America here, excuse me.”

  27. Thomas

    Danny Shelton is available again…

    • James

      If the Vikings keep losing, maybe Danielle Hunter trade?

  28. cha

    Tyreke Smith back on the Seahawks as a practice squad player.


    • Brodie

      Good news indeed. Waiting for news to drop about Dissly missing time now.

      With the OT’s banged up and Dissly as well, it could be that the guy we picked up from Philly is a good blocking TE. I don’t think that Fant and Parkinson add much in that area.

  29. Blitzy the Clown

    I’ll keep saying it: Deion is something different

    COACH PRIME @DeionSanders

    Do u love people, do u want others to succeed, do u desire us all to unite & do u feel a certain way when someone is misused or abused? If yes is your answer to all of above i appreciate your heart & you’re what this world needs to make this a better place. Let’s do something about it. #CoachPrime

    4:06 AM · Sep 21, 2023

    • Rob Staton

      I’m desperate to get some Colorado merch but it’s either sold out or won’t ship!

      • Denver Hawker

        I used to be offered free tickets to every game for years and would only go if there was another team playing that I wanted to watch.

        Now all sold out and no one’s even selling.

        Unreal turnaround.

      • nfendall

        Colorado has gotten their money’s worth for Deion three weeks into the first season. Brilliant hire.

        • Blitzy the Clown


          It’s like buying into Apple in 1980

          Barstool Colorado @CUBarstool

          The amount of exposure CU is getting is insane:

          “The university ran a report on the equivalent ad value of the media coverage since the season started and estimated it at $90.55 million.”

          (Via: @dailycamera)

          • geoff u

            NFL teams are absolutly going to be falling over themselves to hire him for that alone. He should have the common sense to choose wisely.

  30. Rob Staton

    This is ridiculous

    Two games in and feels like half the team isn’t practising

    • Olyhawksfan

      Everything is fine.

      • Palatypus

        Don’t panic!

        The Vogons come in peace.

    • cha

      Diggs and Love aren’t practicing.

      I feel like Gene Wilder as willy wonka…’no please stop, we need you’

  31. Olyhawksfan

    Regarding the subject of not getting the ball down field to JSN…did anyone else notice Geno looks very hesitant to throw deep so far this year? Seemed like last year he was fearless.

    And in addition to not using JSN properly, one could argue the same about DK.

    • cha

      One game with nothing but 3 and outs and one game with both OT’s as backups.

    • nfendall

      One thing I appreciate about Geno is that he will take the short and intermediate stuff instead of trying to force it down the field unnecessarily. If he doesn’t hit many downfield shots because the defense wants to keep 2 deep safeties and take away DK but plays like he did against the Lions I am perfectly okay with it.

      They definitely need to manage JSN much better in that intermediate area to utilize his skill set. Crossing my fingers hoping they figure it out.

      • geoff u

        Agreed, that’s why his completion percentage hovers around 70%, yet he’s still pretty great at the deep ball. He hits it when it’s there.

  32. Rob Staton

    Interesting I noticed today. Top five graded receivers on PFF are all coached by Shanahan, McVay or one of their disciples

  33. Palatypus

    49ers by three touchdowns.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Omg I forgot the game

  34. Palatypus

    Interesting that Shawn Hocculi’s crew didn’t throw a flag until the second quarter after a really chippy first.

  35. HOUSE

    I’m curious if DAL has a replacement plan for Trevon Diggs? Looks like he’s done for the year and we have a deep CB room. I know PC mentioned Woolen could miss some though.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Until we’ve seen the starters get through at least a few games together, we don’t really know what we’ve got at CB. We were also told that Jackson had the best camp of anyone and dude lost his job pretty quickly.

      • HOUSE

        Jackson is the tradable guy in my eyes. Especially when we bring Burns back up from the PS. I’m curious to see how Kelly’s development goes

        • UkAlex6674

          I think we’re way over estimating how good Jackson is

          • Peter

            Seemed like he played fairly well last year.

            Agree though. I don’t think he’s tradeable. What would a team give for him?

  36. Rob Staton

    San Fran are the clear #1 team in the NFC

    • Blitzy the Clown

      It’s not even debatable

      • Palatypus

        Well, you can always watch the replay of the Seahawks game on NFLN instead.

  37. Palatypus

    With all of these red jerseys in Santa Clara, it looks like a Chargers home game against the Chiefs.

  38. Palatypus

    Purdy is clearly very rusty, but he still makes great decisions, because he knows it.

    This is a David Krieg-like effort.

  39. Big Mike

    How is it the 9ers got 2 Thursday games on short rest? They play us on Thanksgiving night on a short week as well as tonight. Frankly, that’s lousy.

  40. nfendall

    BREAKING: Deebo Samuel is very good at football.

    • Peter

      For us or them? Cause we’re gonna need all the help we can get.

      • Peter

        Reply fail to Big Mike.

        • Palatypus

          Stop using your phone.

          • Peter


            • Big Mike

              For them Peter
              And yeah I’ll take the advantage but it’s not right.

              • Peter

                Agreed. The nfl schedule making is getting very poor.

  41. Peter

    Tired of talking about how good that niners defense is?…..well….

    Now we can talk about how good that offense is as well..

    • Palatypus

      Giants have 11 days to like their wounds before they face us.

      • Palatypus


    • Ground_Hawk

      It’s painful to think about, but San fran v. Dallas should be a playoff level game…

      Go Hawks!!!

      • Peter

        True. Yuck. But still true.

      • Malc from PO

        If it takes 49ers excellence to keep Dallas out of the Super Bowl, that is a price I am willing to pay.

        • Gaux Hawks

          + 1

          • Big Mike

            My hatred for Dallas is extremely intense

  42. Blitzy the Clown

    According to StatMuse, Andy Dalton has a career record of 3-1 against the Seattle Seahawks.

    In four games against the Seahawks, he has thrown for 1,104 yards, 7 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions with a passer rating of 93.4.

  43. Palatypus

    I woke up today to Good Morning Football and was astonished that Jaimie Erdahl, for once, had a good idea.

    She made a game-day-inspired sandwich for the upcoming tilt of the Denver Broncos (0-2) at the Miami Dolphins (2-0.) It was a pepper-infused bison Cuban flatbread sandwich.

    Half asleep, I remembered I had goat cheese and pita bread left over from making gyros earlier in the week with doner kababs. I also had marinara left over from spaghetti and meatballs.

    So, I made a goat cheese pita pizza for lunch. I think I’ll do this again for the next Rams game. But it needs something.

    Fresh cilantro?

    • Big Mike

      Can’t ever go wrong with Cilantro.

      • Group Captain Mandrake

        Unless you’re one of those people who taste soap when they eat it. I feel sorry for that lot. Mexican and Thai just aren’t the same without it.

        • Palatypus

          According to my 23&Me test, I am one of those people who can smell asparagus in urine. Until I got the test, I didn’t know that there were people who couldn’t smell asparagus in urine.

          I love cilantro. Graffiti Pizza in downtown Pensacola will smother a pizza in fresh cilantro.

  44. Gaux Hawks

    Would be great to be able to pick up a 6th for Jackson…

    Thoughts on McClendon Curtis at G, could be a great hedge for 2024??

  45. icb12

    Needs meat.

    Some sliced up lamb aught to do.

    • Palatypus

      I’m not a big fan of Greek-style pizza. There is a good place for that in Pensacola though, called Georgio’s out on Cervantes Street.

      • Palatypus

        And I have Tzatziki. If I had lamb, I would have just made a gyro.

  46. cha

    Adam Schefter
    49ers announced they signed general manager John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan to multi-year contract extensions.

    • Jabroni-DC

      Cue the injury bug.

      • Palatypus

        When PC and JS have to explain themselves to the new owner, after Jodie Allen sells the team, about the Jamal Adams trade, they will point to this.

  47. Zxvo3

    Seahawks aren’t the only team that’s banged up in week 3, check out the Ravens:

  48. James Cr.

    Yes – let’s all start gushing over the fabulous run defense. WTF.

    • Group Captain Mandrake

      13th against the run. Big improvement. 30th against the pass. Going in the wrong direction there, fellas.

      • STTBM

        And no pass rush. They’ve turned Nwosu from a pass rush terror to an invisible run stuffer. His salary isn’t as high as it is to stuff the run.

        Hurtt has no clue, and this defense is lost without Desai. I think it’s clear he was the lone bright spot on this dysmal defensive coaching staff.

  49. Thomas

    Thanks for checking out Cam Ward. I’ve liked him for awhile.

  50. Palatypus

    Looks like there are a lot of good matchups tomorrow.

    #4 Florida @ Clemson
    Florida did not look good last week against unranked Boston College

    Auburn @ Texas A&M
    Scout that DT!

    Rutgers @ #2 Michigan Both teams are 3-0.
    I know an upset is unlikely, but Rutgers is feisty.

    #22 UCLA @ #11 Utah
    Both teams are 3-0

    #15 Ole Miss @ #13 Alabama
    Ole Miss is 3-0 and how cool would it be if Alabama fell to 2-2.

    #19 Colorado @ #10 Oregon
    Do I really need to explain this to anyone?

    #6 Ohio State @ #9 Notre Dame
    How good is Sam Hartman?

    #14 Oregon State @ #21 Washington State
    The battle for the PAC-2 Championship!

    • Big Mike

      Assume that’s #4 Florida State

      • Palatypus

        Yes, I was fighting the keyboard.

        • Peter

          Have you considered using your phone? 😄

          • Palatypus

            Well played Peter. Well…played.

      • LouCityHawk

        A veritable CFB feast.

        Arkansas @ 12LSU in Death Valley. LSU has many names to know for the draft, and Arkansas has some intriguing players that will be R3-R5.

        24Iowa @ 7PennSt in Happy Valley, lots of fun players and names to watch here. Fashanu, Cooper DeJean, Zakee Wheatley, Kalen King, Chop Robinson, Luke Lachey, Erick All…

        • BK26

          Iowa vs. Penn State when it matters is always a really good, weird game. Adrian Clayborn blocking a punt for a td to beat #3 Penn State is one core game for me.

          • LouCityHawk

            I remember that game, one of the more underrated rivalries in college football.

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