Curtis Allen’s week two watch points (vs Lions)

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen…

It is “déjà vu all over again.”

Last year, the Seahawks traveled to Detroit to play the Lions in Week Four.  After three weeks, the Seahawks didn’t know what kind of team they were going to be — with a breathtaking win over the Broncos, an absolute hammering at the hands of the Niners and a tough loss to the inferior Falcons putting fans through an early-season roller coaster.

This year, they started the season with the hammering.  Last week’s loss to the Rams was easily one of the worst games of the Pete Carroll era.  Following that, promises of harder work, better focus and renewed defensive strategizing have rung forth out of the VMAC.  Once again, the team travels to Detroit to test their resolve.

What can we expect from this matchup?  Many of the points we emphasized last year are still extremely valid.  I suspect they will be in 2024 too, when the Seahawks play in Detroit again.

Here are the Cliff’s notes version of my writeup:

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They really need something tangible they can point to on defense and say they are making progress.  Right now, they are near the league bottom in several crucial categories and they need something to build on.

The Lions have found something that works with Jared Goff’s limited abilities.  Hand it off to your explosive runners and let them move the ball downfield.  Run some play action with designed pass plays that are one-look and throw and let them gain yards after the catch with their athleticism.

Watching him play this year, it is remarkable how much he telegraphs his intentions by not even looking at anyone but his primary target.  He practically must throw to his first read for the play to be successful.

If that is the case, the strategy is obvious.  Get the corners up on their men.  Press them, take away the easy catch and run and make Goff hold onto the ball and think.  Safeties and coverage linebackers, read his eyes.  I would be comfortable gambling by instructing the defenders to break on his first read and make him pay for his lack of vision.

Make Jared Goff beat you.

Win In the Running Game

The Lions have been only slightly better in run defense than the Seahawks this year.  Where is their defense the weakest?  They have been absolutely gashed between the tackles in the run game. 

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Several of those points proved prescient as the Seahawks won a wild one 48-45, the NFL’s top-scoring game of the year. 

The Seahawks had a great game running the ball, Riq Woolen read Goff’s eyes and stepped in front of a pass for a pick-six and the defense otherwise struggled to contain an undermanned Lions offense.

This season, the Lions have all their offensive weapons healthy but are banged up in the trenches.  Left tackle Tyler Decker will likely not suit up and defensive end Josh Pascal appears to be out for the game.

The Seahawks have loaded up on personnel on both sides but questions linger about coaching and execution after such a poor performance Sunday.  Injuries to both of their starting tackles will pose a challenge to the staff to prepare an effective offense that keeps rising star Aidan Hutchinson from wrecking the offense’s rhythm.

Let’s look at some keys to the game…

Commit To the Run and Do Not Waver

The Seahawks defense needs sorting out and the offense needs rhythm and to protect their inexperienced tackles.  They have two talented running backs primed to fire off.

The Lions were the #29 rushing defense last year and the only major piece they added to improve their front seven was linebacker Jack Campbell in the draft.  Blog favorite Alim McNeill is coming along nicely but this defensive line is still one of the NFL’s softer units.

Jake Curhan at Right Tackle might be a sizable step down from Abe Lucas overall but he has played in some of Seattle’s best rushing games in recent years — including the 213-yard effort against the Chargers last year — and he started every game of Rashaad Penny’s explosion to close the 2021 season.

In 2022, the Seahawks had their best game of the year rushing the ball against the Lions, gaining 235 yards on a whopping 7.83 yards per carry average.  In 2021, the Seahawks had the best game of that year running the ball against Lions, with 265 yards on a 6.46 yards per carry average.  Detroit safeties have become very familiar with Seahawks running backs.

These are indisputable facts that all point to Seattle featuring the running game Sunday.

True, the Lions held the Chiefs to only 90 yards in Week One — but Kansas City just gave a token effort in the run game that amounted to ‘try and keep the defense honest’ with only 17 carries plus six more from Patrick Mahomes.

Detroit styles themselves as a tough blue-collar type of team.  The Seahawks need to establish the tone of the game by running the ball up the gut and not shying away from it, even if they only get 2-3 yards per carry in the early going.

A secret ingredient to a good running game against the Lions:  Quarterback runs.  Mahomes ran six times for 45 yards last week, half of Kansas City’s yards on the ground.  In their last two games against the Lions, Russell Wilson and Geno Smith have a combined 13 carries for 73 yards and seven first downs.  Both were just enough to exploit Detroit’s poor coverage and run defense and keep the offense moving forward.  Geno needs to be instructed if he drops back to pass and sees a good lane develop, go for it.

Like this:


Another facet to a good offense against the Lions…

Feature the Tight Ends Heavily

This seems obvious, as when you are starting both of your backup offensive tackles, it makes sense to bring in a Twelve Personnel package, with one running back, two wide receivers and two tight ends.  It helps the tackles with pass protection, becomes a safety outlet for the quarterback to turn to when under pressure and can assist the running game in overpowering the opposition.

There is another reason this package will be specifically advantageous this weekend:  Detroit is poor in covering tight ends.  Last year, the only team to give up more tight end touchdowns than the Lions was the Arizona Cardinals.  Indeed, Geno Smith’s two passing touchdowns in Week Four were to Noah Fant and Will Dissly.

Detroit is just not strong in safeties and linebackers that can cover.  Safety Kerby Joseph was responsible for conceding six touchdowns in only forty targets last year.  Watch Geno Smith take advantage of Joseph not getting his head around and Will Dissly easily winning by using his reach and nearly 70-pound advantage:

Watch Joseph get completely twisted out of his cleats by a sneaky Tyler Lockett rub and leave Noah Fant unguarded:

Games like this are why the Seahawks invested so much in tight end play.  They need to get their three heavily involved this week.  They could open up the run game and generate opportunities for the wide receivers to have man coverage.

One more way they could provide value:  chipping Hutchinson or picking up blitzers.

Geno Smith was not terrific last year when blitzed.  His completion percentage dropped from 71 to 65, his QB rating dropped from 105 to 85, and his sack rate went up exponentially.

Last year, the Lions only blitzed eight times and got no sacks and only three pressures and three hits on Geno.  The result?  He had a scorching 132 QB rating on a 76% completion rate, scoring two passing touchdowns.  That game was his true coming-out party as a real NFL passer.

If the Seahawks can adequately protect him, he should be able to make his reads and throws very effectively.

Some Defensive Notes

Last week against the Rams, the in-breaking routes were the death of this defense.  Neither the pass rush nor the coverage was working when they employed these routes.  The corners were too loose and the linebackers and safeties too late to help with coverage.  The Seahawks tried every defensive formation imaginable against the Rams and nothing was successful.  Perhaps slimming down their playbook and committing to less diversity and more attention to execution is the key.

They better solve it quickly.  Guess who is very, very good at throwing in-breaking routes?

Last year, Goff papercut the defense to death — getting eighteen first downs through the air.

As always, he had a very quick passing approach that relied on yards after catch.  It is very in-rhythm.  The Seahawks need to keep working to break that rhythm and give the pass rushers time to work.  Goff is not a good off-schedule quarterback.  If you force him into making reads, your chances of success grow exponentially.

But of course, if he is supported by a deadly run attack, he can be very effective.

The Lions are going to roll out their version of thunder (David Montgomery, one of the NFL’s leading tackle-breakers) and lightning (Jahmyr Gibbs, he of the 4.36 40 time).  Tackling was a big problem for this team against the Lions last year.  If they made proper, routine tackles, that game would have been much more comfortable for Seattle.

The defensive coaches for the Seahawks kept talking this week about how successful they were holding the Rams to 2.3 yards per carry in 40 attempts.  It is fair to say they are clinging onto a small victory.

The defense must bottle-up this dynamite running game in order to force the pressure onto Goff.

Something that bears watching:  Is it time to put Riq Woolen on an island and roll coverage to the other side, like the Rams did for years with Jalen Ramsey?

Last week, the Rams targeted Woolen a grand total of two times.  Tre Brown?  Six times.  Julian Love?  Ten times.  Michael Jackson?  Two times in very limited snaps.

Just as we saw down the stretch last year, after an explosive start to the season, the league took notice and started avoided targeting Woolen in their passing game.

The Seahawks need to use that to their advantage and get creative.  Roll coverage to the other side and put Woolen on an island in the first half.  Then when the coaches make their adjustments at halftime, go back to your standard packages.  That sort of thing.

How about a blitzing package that isolates Woolen and floods coverage to the other side, while putting pressure on Goff?

The Seahawks have an all-world talent at corner.  One of the few true players who can contribute more than just covering a receiver.  He can make the defense seem like they have an extra player on the field.  Surely it is worth exploring.


  1. dahveed

    Love was painful to watch… #20 had no instict for where the ball was going unlike #10 who was the best player on defense ,

    • Jon W.

      Facemask doink Adams will be even worse than Love once he returns.

  2. Tezza

    0-2 here we come.
    Can’t wait to have Caleb Williams in Seattle

  3. Ashish

    I’m so upset that I’m not ready to read the article. But wanted to thank you Cha for the article. Seahawks typically do exactly the opposite of what other thinks.

  4. Dubb

    Worried about the pass rush. I thought rookie Derrick Hall would provide some juice; but he looks heavier and slower than at Auburn. Did he put on weight to play Edge in the NFL?

    Also, Wagner blitzed his way to 6 sacks in LA. We didn’t seem to send him last week.

    • Rob Staton

      Also, Wagner blitzed his way to 6 sacks in LA. We didn’t seem to send him last week.

      Wagner’s performance was as concerning to me as anything.

      Last year he was like a man possessed. Clearly being cut by Seattle lit a fire. The Wagner I saw on Sunday was exactly the same as the one I saw in 2021. A player who is hesitant, who is letting things unfold around him and not eager to engage contact. I remember thinking he might be hurt in 2021 with the way he played, especially given how he played last season. Now I’m starting to wonder if he’s almost just too comfortable in Seattle.

      • Tom.Msr

        For what it’s worth, I was relatively impressed by Brook’s performance in his first game back. I thought he played aggressively downhill and had some solid coverage reps down the field.

      • Zane

        Hmm, I didn’t feel that way. He made a few really nice run stops, shooting gaps aggressively, which is all you can ask of a 33 year old linebacker I’d say.

        • Rob Staton

          Watch this week

          Look for where he’s hesitant or riding ball-carriers

          When you know what to look for you’ll see it

          • Elmer

            Does the fact that Wagner had 19 total tackles last week indicate a problem to you with the line in front of him.

            • Rob Staton

              Yes, 100%

            • Hawkster

              I’m thinking in a 3-4 he should make a lot of tackles, but in the gap, not at the feet of the FS

      • pdway

        not sure if it’s an attitudinal thing or not – but I think he just has dead/slow legs at this point in his career – is a liability in space, and not anything close to a playmaker.

      • Ben

        Looks like a farewell tour unfortunately. Would love to see him moving forward and tackling.

        • Rob Staton

          I almost wish it felt like a farewell tour

          I think it’s more of a ‘I am comfortable here’

          And when he wasn’t comfortable last year, after being cut, he played with fire

          We need to see that back in Seattle now — it can’t be a ‘phew I’m back where I want to be’ type of thing and then he plays with the hesitancy and passive nature that helped see him cut in the first place

          • geoff u

            Was it just against the Seahawks he played with fire? Or the whole season? I didn’t watch many other Rams games so i honestly have no idea…

            • Rob Staton

              I think I saw him two other times and was impressed with how he played

              On Sunday I just thought… bloody hell this is exactly the same performance that led me to getting loads of grief for saying they should cut him last time

  5. Brodie

    Great write up Cha.

    If they can have success running the ball, I think they actually have a chance. This feels like one of those games that could buck the odds. No one is giving us a chance and that is where Pete’s teams seem to thrive.

    I really hope they give Zach a substantial role. Get him 10+ touches.

    Hawks 25 – Lions 20 in a game that asks more questions than it answers about the 23 season. Pre-emptive shout out to JSN for his first career TD!

  6. Mick

    Thank you cha. I sometimes wonder if we have someone doing what you do: looking at the opponent and preparing the scheme accordingly. The game plan is so stuck in run, run, pass and all-over-the-board D. Bad coaching.

    • Malc from PO

      Carroll is totally a system guy, I’ve rarely if ever seen adjustments for specific foes other than in the most basic terms (“we thought they’d run more than they did” (vs Bills); keeping running against Dallas in the playoffs; numerous statements like “that game just doesn’t enter my comprehension). And forget in-game adjustments. If the system isn’t working, we pack it up and roll it out next game to see if it works against a different opponent. The comments to yesterday’s post mentioned Carroll’s reliance on exceptional athletes executing a simple system. When we don’t have clearly superior athletes our system is often found wanting. The problem is that in the modern NFL everyone is an incredible athlete, and this is increasingly the case. Clever scheming and coaching adjustments are more and more important and Seahawks just seem behind in that regard.

  7. Big Mike

    Thanks as always Curtis. The last part about leaving Woolen on an island was very interesting. I’d love rto see that as this D needs any advantage it can muster. My question, have they ever done that before? Did they do it with Sherm?

    • Peter

      Feel like they did not do that.

      Wasn’t that the big dumb debate of its time that Revis, etc, covered the best reciever and Sherman “only” erased his area.

      • Big Mike

        I believe you’re correct. And they wouldn’t have left him on an island with a #2 WR so must not have.

        • Blitzy the Clown

          Is any CB really on an island when you have the ball-seeking missile that was prime Earl Thomas playing single high safety?

  8. Peter

    Cha this is such a great breakdown.

    The two watchpoints that are very hard to work out for our the following:

    1. How big an impact does Witherspoon have. Specifically anything in the in breaking route terrain and potentially (?) Blitzing from a DB position. I still like Bryant. From last year to last game the coaches can’t prove to me they aren’t mishandling him and Jackson ( meh ), Brown (blech) are better outside than him. Starting to think it might be that no one is ‘better’ at playing inside than him.

    I’d love to see Witherspoon playing nickel and being that Polamalu style weapon and get bryant outside.

    2. For the bad battle. Under the TE matches while all true I think this one is harder to predict because it seems Detroit has a pretty bigvupgrade in safety play.

    I lied. Now it’s three things. Not just a quicker passing game which you laid out wonderfully but I’ve been duly informed that while not fast JSN has YAC ability with his shifty-ness and I’m pretty sure DK is still one of the faster recievers in the game. It feels like forever since I heard the guys in the booth excitedly yelling “he’s going to the 40, the 35, the 30….” am I imagining it or is Seattle poor at generating YAC with its passing game?

  9. Zane

    After watching the tape, these guys stood out positively:
    1. Jordyn Brooks
    2. Uchenna Nwosu

    Need to improve:
    1. Colby Bryant (here’s hoping Witherspoon takes his snaps)
    2. Julian Love (he looked hesitant and uncertain all around)

    Honestly I was surprised by how correctable most of the defensive issues appear to be. It was mostly a case of a wrong step here, bad timing there – the results wouldn’t have been so ugly if Stafford didn’t have one of the best games of his career.

    • Ground_Hawk

      Through the years though, Seattle’s defense has allowed many QB’s to have career days lol. It’s a systemic issue for this organization unfortunately.

  10. Palatypus

    Deion Sanders on College Football Gameday is must-see TV.

    My favorite sign: “Who’s Sherdaddy?”

    • Palatypus

      Because double entendres are my thing.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        You likes to have it both ways

  11. pdway

    Thanks for the write-up. Even without the tackles, I have confidence that our offense is going to bounce back w a good game.

    The defense? Man, who knows, that was a really really bad showing last week…maybe they’ll surprise me. But I fear Detroit is going to move the ball and control the clock all game.

  12. Peter

    Worried about that defense. The Bobby/brooks connection seems like “second verse same as the first, ” from 2021. Active, lots of tackles, but for all the wrong reasons: 40 minutes of playing time.

    Saw a lot of missed assignments. Guys thinking the other player had “it,” when the ball was thrown.

    A lot of circular logic on different sites: the pass rush would be better if the DB’s played better-the DB’s would be better if there was a better pass rush…..something has to give folks.

    • pdway

      Yeah, honestly, it’s not until watching this last few seasons of the Hawks that I came to realize what a misleading stat number of tackles is. Having a ton of tackles seems to correlate w never being able to get your defense off the field.

  13. Scot04

    Thanks for the write up Cha;
    About your idea of going 12 personel, only with a slight change.
    In the 3 pre-season game Oluwatimi, Bradford, & Curhan played quite a few snaps together.
    Looked like by game 3 they had built up a bit of chemistry going into the 3rd game.
    When they ran right with that group it actually looked pretty good; with aggressive blocking.
    Would like to see those 3 get a chance with 12 personel, & pounding it right.
    I doubt Carroll would want to replace Brown & Haynes; But I figure what’s there to lose.
    Maybe those 3 go out & play like they want it more.
    After all, we’ve already heard that wasn’t the case from our starters last game.
    Plus it gives us a chance to start seeing what we have in Olu & Bradford now; vrs waiting behind 2 guys on 1yr contracts.

    • cha

      It’s worth discussing.

      PC has consistently favored playing the one-year contract veteran over the young draft pick. It’s very hard to reconcile.

  14. JimQ

    The OL was already “suspect” to start the season, now, with their two starting OT’s out & replaced by street veterans – it is inevitable that the OL will be in some trouble going forward.

    The defense is very obviously “lost” and will likely require a DC replacement sooner rather than later. It’s going to be a really long season for a lot of Seahawk fans.

    The teams’ problems are exasperated by poor coaching on both sides of the ball. I hate being negative about “my team” but something has to change! PC has been a great head coach however all coaches reach a point where their prior successes are overshadowed by their current lack of effectiveness, it happens to all of the good coaches – eventually.

    Sometimes the game progresses beyond what an “old” coach can Invision and his methods become obsolete. I’m afraid the Seahawks will lose a lot of fans (the majority of them band-wagon fans) during the period between now and the new ownership. Hopefully the new ownership will bring “fresh eyes” and a commitment to getting this team back to a truly championship level with a new “young” coach with innovation and good coaching acumen. Until then, I guess we fans will be disappointed but hopeful for the future of the franchise.

  15. Hawkster

    Totally off topic, Im reading badgers up by 7, 21/14 after have picked tge ball off 5 (five!) times in 2.5 qtrs of play. Wtf

    • Kyle R

      The defense stuff basically comes down to coaching I believe. The reason multiple players look slow or hesitant isn’t because they lack skill or desire. It’s coaching. It’s a combination of a bad scheme and terrible or unclear teaching. A good coach makes a scheme to put in the skills of their players in the best possible light to succeed. They also drill in their heads what they have to do in said scheme so they don’t have to think, it’s second nature so they can just react. Seattle defense does neither of these two things and it’s been that way for 4-5 years now. It’s why when players leave like Wagner and do better or the multiple players for the Jets last week it’s no surprise. It’s not the players as the main problem it’s the scheme and ultimately the coaching that is leading to this terrible defense year in and year out.

      • Kyle R

        Sorry not meant to be a reply

  16. Denver Hawker

    Drake Maye looks pretty good today

    • Rob Staton

      Two interceptions though

      I’m eager to see the tape

  17. Ground_Hawk

    Rattler showing he belongs in the 1st round conversation with this game, so far.

    • Ground_Hawk

      Only so much one player can do haha

    • BK26

      I’ll go ahead and say it: we will really regret it if we pass on drafting him.

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        Not if we draft someone better first.

        • BK26

          I only see Williams ahead of him personally. And Rattler has done the growing up that Williams hasn’t.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        TVD looked pretty good today

  18. Palatypus

    I fell asleep during Alabama @ South Florida and it’s 3-0 SF with 3:38 left in the first half.

  19. Jabroni-DC

    It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for the Seahawks to have an injury riddled, crap campaign in 2023 if it means that we snag ‘our guy’ at QB in the 2024 draft. Pretty exciting group of prospects.

    I’d be happy with something like…

    R1 franchise QB
    R2 DT
    Cut Adams
    Cut Diggs
    Cut Geno Smith
    Maybe cut Mone
    Maybe cut Lockett
    Explore a DK trade before the 2025 season

    Burn out the chaff so we can right the ship & right the cap. We’ve GOT to draft a great QB.

    • Palatypus

      If Rob’s opinions are too maverick, this is like that scene of the tower fly-by where James Tolkan spills coffee on himself and says, “I want some A$$e$ !!!”

    • Big Mike

      If Pete Carroll is here next year, Jamal Adams and Diggs will be too.

    • DarrellDownUnder

      Forgot to cut PC and possibly JS

  20. Palatypus

    Florida A&M’s punter is wearing very short pants today, showing that his kicking leg is completely tattooed and his plant leg is uncut.

    Here’s what you need to know about the University of West Florida Argos quarterback Peewee Jarrett.

    6’4″ 240 lbs. Senior

    On the season: 40/50 for 559 yards and 5TD. He has 16 rushing attempts for 54 yards and 2 TD.

    • Palatypus

      And after dominating their first two opponents 70-6, UWF is struggling against the “Dark Cloud” defense.

      It’s all locked up at 3-3.

  21. Rob Staton

    I like this MF

    • Palatypus

      Nah, give me a box safety.

      • Big Mike

        Never can have too many can you?

        • Elmer

          Especially when one of them is an IR professional being paid for not playing.

    • Henry

      Meanwhile, Michael Penix Jr torching Sparty, throwing to wide open receivers and no defender within 5 yards of him. Would love to see some better opponents to get a better gauge on these QBs rather than watching them play powderpuffs

      • Palatypus

        That game is not on here!

        I can watch, like, a hundred games but that is not one of them.

        • Big Mike

          It’s on Peacock

          • Palatypus

            Damn. Don’t have a subscription. Watching PLUTO.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Any concern he’s Daniel Jones redux?

      • Rob Staton

        The only reasons people mention Daniel Jones are:

        1. He can run

        2. He played for Duke

        • ShowMeYourHawk

          And this is an unfair comparison because….?

          Not trying to imply that Leonard isn’t a talented guy but a running Jones in that same system apparently got him drafted well before his actual ability would have dictated.

          • Rob Staton

            It’s unfair because we’re only comparing him to Jones because they are both athletic and went to the same school

            They aren’t stylistically anything like each other

            • Palatypus

              That run reminded me of that famous 49-yard touchdown run by Steve Young against the Vikings.

            • ShowMeYourHawk

              I’ll concede that Leonard had a better Soph season. Slightly better pass %, more TDs, less INTs. Much better passer rating. More yds per rush too. Still used a LOT as a running option, be it designed or to escape pass rushers. I am intrigued by him as an option but he’s roughly the same build and runs the same system. Eager to see how much he improves upon his numbers from last season.

              • Rob Staton

                But they aren’t similar players

                You can’t watch them and think they are similar

                Other than they are athletic and both played for Duke, which is the point I’m making

                • ShowMeYourHawk

                  No looking to drag this out. I get you’re high on Leonard and I’ve agreed that he definitely deserves being kept tabs on. I look forward to your continuing breakdown of what you’re seeing in your QB research. Love the site and have for years.

                  But, yes, my man. I can think they share similarities in their respective games at the same program without declaring that they are exactly the same player.

                  Thanks for your candor. ☮️

                  • Rob Staton

                    I just don’t think you would make that comparison unless they both played for Duke

    • Keith

      During the draft process, Pete and John mentioned several times that they value QBs that played multiple sports in HS. Look at his basketball highlights below. Tremendous athlete that just recently started focusing on football. He tilts the field. Cannot imagine that John and Pete are not high on him.

  22. Rob Staton

    Would’ve loved to do an interview like this with the Seahawks staff after last week 🙂

    • Palatypus

      PC: We were completely unprepared. Our scheme is outdated and I am getting too old for this $hit! I knew I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines! Surely, you could have got me a nose tackle.

      JS: I never should have locked up $56 Million on safeties. That’s my fault. and stop calling me Shirley.

    • Peter

      Really enjoy when you get on 710 in any capacity but I wish they’d put a little more respect on your name and not just a blogger, but a reporter/journalist

      • Rob Staton

        I’ve not been on 710 for 18 months — which is a shame because all of the previous hits seem to have gone down well

        • Peter

          I was referencing the heaps pieces but also when Salk read your piece this week. Stoked they do that. But he referred to you as a blogger. True. But that’s feels like some guy in a basement where as you’re a real journalist with a blog.

          • Rob Staton

            Also one of the hosts of the national radio coverage of the NFL over here so I see what you mean 😂

  23. Dubb

    I watched the routes that Minnesota had Justin Jefferson run to get him open; and compared it to the routes Seattle has for Metcalf (a slant, an out, or a go route) and it made me sick to my stomach. They are wasting his talents.

    • Big Mike

      Chris Simms whole heartedly agrees with you.

    • Henry Taylor

      I don’t disagree that they don’t take fulla advantage of DK, but he can’t run JJ’s route tree.

  24. Palatypus

    Just learned from Annie in my writers’ group that there is an HBCU GO app where you can stream the Florida A&M game. She’s watching it before the Gators game (She is a Florida graduate.)

  25. Peter

    Biggest game for ft. Collins, CO happening now. Hope the buffs have some magic. But the rams might have their number.

    • Peter

      Yowza. Cripes on a pogo stick. This game.

      • geoff u

        What time is it?

        • ShowMeYourHawk

          Time for Shadeur Sanders to renegotiate his NIL payments.

        • Peter

          It’s time for CO to find some defense if they want to jump up in competition.

          • Palatypus

            Brilliant play calling in the final two minutes and overtime.

  26. Blitzy the Clown

    Colorado showing incredible grit to rally and win in overtime

    Because it’s personal

    CSU DL Mohamed Kamara and TE Dallin Hooker showed for the Rams though

    • Peter

      Kamara? Weird size listing. 6’1″ 250. Looks bigger and longer than that to me. Plays d line. Wonder what he could be moving forward.

      • Ben

        He’s only 6-1?? Looked way more built. Came here to say it looked like could play sundays. Hooker looked good, and big fan of Horton at WR for CSU too.

        Sanders is just excellent all around. Amazing feel for the pocket and great play action.

        • Peter

          Horton and Hooker both great players.

          Ben, just checked again to see I wasn’t misreading it. Kamara, like you, I thought he looked like a dude out there.

    • Romeo A57

      Stupid penalties and bad coaching decisions by Colorado State has kept Colorado in this game. CSU should have gone for the 4th and short late in the 4th Quarter that could have sealed a victory. Also CSU not going for 2pt conversion in OT1 made no sense.

      • Peter

        Having Travis Hunter their best corner and best WR taken out by a cheap shot early didn’t help CO either.

        Still love a college game like that.

        • Romeo A57

          If I didn’t know anything about either team, I would have guessed VSU was the better team. They dominated until the 4th Quarter and only kept Colorado in the game with Eight! Personal Fouls and ugly turnovers. CSU’s dirty play was really ugly.

          I find it fascinating that Colorado vs Oregon and USC in the next few weeks may be the biggest college games of the year. I find it hard to believe that Colorado is going to win both those games. Once Colorado loses their popularity will wane a lot.

          • Peter

            CSU is coached up. Very exciting team.

            Agree if CO loses both those games coming up. If they even win one I think the momentum stays with them. I also think CO has very little going on defense which is a huge problem for them.

            As for biggest games of the year….maybe. there’s nothing exciting about any SEC team. The rest of the future former pac 12 has a bunch of teams in the top 25 but they’ll soon start picking each other off.

            I saw ohio and notre dame coming up as predictions for GameDay….honestly that’s a pretty flat game to me. Perennially over ranked notre dame vs. Almost always very good Ohio. College needs story lines.

  27. Rob Staton

    Few people have asked for thoughts on JJ McCarthy. I haven’t had a chance to properly study him yet (and would prefer to wait until Michigan play actual challenging opponents) but his two interceptions yesterday against Bowling Green were really, really bad.

    Just not physically impressive enough based on what I have seen of him

  28. Denver Hawker

    Not sure if this account is credible or if reported elsewhere, but Seahawks apparently in attendance to watch Rattler:

  29. cha

    Bob Condotta
    Devon Witherspoon working as the starter at left corner in early warmups.

    So glad we worked him at nickel so much in camp.

    • Big Mike

      Faking out the other teams. Pete playing chess while the other teams play….oh never mind.

  30. cha


    S Jamal Adams (knee)
    LT Charles Cross (toe)
    DE Mike Morris (shoulder)
    ILB Devin Bush (shoulder)
    OLB Boye Mafe (knee)
    OT McClendon Curtis
    OL Ben Brown

    • Romeo A57

      Jamal not playing is good news for those that want the Seahawks to win today. Disappointed to see Mafe on this list.

  31. Blitzy the Clown

    Great start. Nice run K9

  32. Palatypus

    I see we have Shawn Hocculi’s crew today.

    He had a great day against Clete Blakeman on FanDuel.

  33. Blitzy the Clown

    Beautiful blitz pick up!

  34. Big Mike

    Looked like a TD *shrug*

  35. Bmseattle

    Perfect…hurry up to catch them off guard…only to false start

  36. Big Mike

    Is Waldren ever creative down here?

  37. ShowMeYourHawk

    Whew. Getting bailed out early. Gotta capitalize.

  38. Palatypus

    Shawn Hocculi’s crew, it was said last week, threw the second most flags of any crew in the NFL last year.

    There have already been, what, four?

    • cha

      Curhan hopping a half heartbeat early to contain Hutchinson and not getting called. Something to watch.

  39. Mick

    Great start, why couldn’t they show up like that against the Rams last week?

    • Palatypus

      Shawn Hocculi is going against Perry Fewell’s crew this week on FanDuel.

  40. Blitzy the Clown

    8 minute opening drive capped by a TD. When was the last time Seattle opened a game like that?

  41. Big Mike

    Great blocking there

    Thanks for the help Detroit D

    • Big Mike

      Lewis and Brown I presume

  42. ShowMeYourHawk

    Offense did it’s job. And now….. we pray. 🧎🏽‍♂️

  43. pdway

    let’s go – – that’s how you start it.

    nicely done.

  44. Blitzy the Clown

    Taylor and Wagner both missed a TFL there

    • jed

      One of the good plays I thought Wagner made last week was actually a missed tackle that Nuosu picked up.

  45. Big Mike

    Hit at the LOS. 6 yd gain

    • Peter

      Good hit by Taylor says Wyman….

  46. Rushless pass

    JSN in the blue tent getting his leg checked

  47. Palatypus

    Forgive me if I am a little off today. Watching Red Zone in Florida.

    Our television market has KC at JAX and GB at ATL.

    • Big Mike

      Sunday Ticket is your friend albeit an expensive one

  48. Blitzy the Clown

    Hey there Spoon!

    • Bmseattle

      …says Goff as he completes a 20 yarder against him

  49. Big Mike

    Little late on the close there Diggs

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Goff caught Quandre mid-Tweet.

      • Peter


    • James

      He was late, and Witherspoon was out of position, which is why Diggs had to come from across…

  50. Mick

    Why am I not surprised? How much do we pay Diggs again?

    • Palatypus

      “My Pop Warner team can do better than that and I pay them in popsicles, not millions of dollars!”

  51. cha

    Once again, Love and Diggs not on the same page.


    • Scot04

      Sad how it looks like the position we’re spending the most on is our weakest.

    • Big Mike

      2nd highest paid Safety group in the NFL and quite possibly the worst group

  52. Rob Staton

    Legion of Room

    • Bmseattle

      Ok…that’s funny. 😆

    • Big Mike

      I love this
      Please spread it around folks

    • Peter


    • downtownjewelrybryan


  53. pdway

    and we just get no pass rush ever…

    • Big Mike

      No we do not

      • Vanhawksfan


  54. Peter

    Just my weekly “f— the colts” post

    • Big Mike

      Never stop

    • Palatypus

      Have you ever seen Malcolm McDowell in Equis?

      • pdway

        some highbrow shit right there

      • Peter

        No but a quick scan of imdb I can sort of see where that comment is going

      • Hawkster

        yikes, not the fist thing that came to mind

  55. James

    Gonna have to put up 40 to stay in this one.

  56. Mick

    Waldron, write down 100 times: Screens don’t work for us when we’re 3rd and long.

    • Big Mike

      That just gave me visions of Bart Simpson at the chalkboard

  57. Bmseattle

    So, they have just pigeon-holed JSN as a screen receiver, apparantly.
    Isnt he good at getting open in the middle of the field?
    I thought that was his strength.

    • Big Mike

      Rudimentary pass patterns?

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      If Metcalf can’t go the rest of the game, JSN’s role may have to change.

      • Scot04

        So, Lockett, JSN, & Bobo

  58. Nathan W.

    That stiff arm on Wagz 🫡

    • pdway

      he’s just way too slow now

  59. cha

    Can we PLEASE stop talking about that Bobby Wagner speech to the team in practice now?

  60. Rob Staton

    Why is Wagner back?

    Good grief

    • Big Mike

      The Pete Carroll old home week tour

    • Bmseattle

      So we can fawn over him, incessantly, obviously.

  61. Troy

    I can’t believe we get another season of pathetic defensive play. So easy, too easy. My expectations for this season are over.

    • Bmseattle

      You can still have expectations.
      They just need to be…adjusted downward.

  62. Rob Staton

    I see that injuries are going to be the excuse this year to go through all of this again in 12 months

    • Peter

      Shades of the mike holmgren snowball game. Minus the self reflection.

    • Bmseattle

      Yep…while conveniently ignoring that we sucked before the injuries, as well.

  63. Hawkster

    3rd and 7, I mean 3rd and short

    • Troy

      I’ll call it. First down….

      • Big Mike

        Not exactly going out on a limb there 😞

        • Troy

          Easy, easy, easy

  64. Bmseattle

    Maybe our high priced DL free agent signing can make a play for us at some point?

  65. pdway

    man, bobby is just bad now

  66. Tony

    This laughably bad defense

  67. SeaTown

    Dremont Jones scammed the Hawks. He’s fing terrible.

    • McZ

      Perhaps, next time we read the PFF ratings before we sign guys!?

  68. ShowMeYourHawk


  69. Henry Taylor


  70. Troy

    That Bobby Wagner speech sure helped. This is a high school level defense

  71. pdway

    that’s a great play….more more more of that

  72. Palatypus

    Deep pass to Nick Bellore?

  73. Mick

    Meanwhile the plays come from Nwosu, Jordyn and Spoon. No surprise there.

  74. Pran

    D is hopeless. Pete cannot fire Clint and there is no one out there who can help

    • Big Mike

      He wouldn’t hire them anyway

  75. Big Mike

    God this lack of pass rush….

    Nice play Spoon

    • Scot04

      Yep, all the more impressive because of no passrush

  76. Peter

    Spoon and Reed are basically gonna have to do it today

  77. MattG

    Goodness, Carroll looked tired and surprised when reacting to that Spoon knockdown.

  78. ShowMeYourHawk

    Gonna have to settle for a field goal because Geno won’t run, right?

  79. Scot04

    Run Geno Run there

  80. Palatypus

    Who is DK Lockett?

    • Romeo A57

      A hot-headed speedster who is also a heady veteran player?

  81. ShowMeYourHawk

    What a sh*tshow. Take the damn yards, you idjit!

  82. Big Mike

    This drive died when Geno didn’t run on first down

    So looks like we’ll be worrying about our FG kicker now

    • Peter

      Water is wet and Meyers is in an odd numbered year.

      • Big Mike

        Forgot about that

        • Palatypus

          Same rule as Star Trek movies.

    • dand393

      Well he is on that normal track for 1 good year 1 bad year and unfortunately he’s on the bad year

    • Pran

      Geno gonna be Geno. High school kid can kick better than that Jason’s attempt.

      I can take all these Ls if the season culminates in Pete’s retirement

  83. Bmseattle

    Seems like Myers’ worst kicks come in domes

  84. Big Mike

    Working the rook over

    • Scot04

      Can already here Hawks twitter. Should have taken Carter.

    • Bmseattle

      “There is no spoon.”

      • Palatypus

        Is he getting forked?

    • Jordan

      I get that the “hope he’s as good as Jalen Carter” ship has sailed; but he’s actively hurting the team right now.

  85. Mick

    Is it me not knowing the rules or that DPI was easily given?

  86. Big Mike

    How many pressures on Goff so far? One?

  87. ShowMeYourHawk

    Rooks gonna rook. Take the good with the bad.

    Though, Jalen Carter obviously would have caught up and made the INT there, just sayin’. 😝

    • Peter

      Yeah got to take the good with the bad. Heard Carter was also a promising kicker

  88. Pack of K9s

    Quandre Diggs is worse than Jamaal Adams. There is my hot take. I don’t think he is a good safety. He’s a real “ah almost got him” or “shoot a second sooner” or my personal favorite “what was the defensive back doing?” He provides almost 0 support in the secondary. Time to just cut Adams and Diggs

    • pdway

      yeah – maybe the most actually overrated guy on the team, b/c everyone talks about him like he’s a star

  89. Rob Staton

    This defense man

    It’s time

    It’s time

    • Big Mike

      It was time 2 years ago Rob

      • geoff u

        2? We watched it get terrible under Richard, stay terrible under Norton Jr, and continue the terrible under Hurt.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      🎵 But tiiiiiiime is on Pete’s side…. yes it is! 🎵

  90. Palatypus

    Red Zone just said th

    • Palatypus

      THAT Goff can sett the NFL record for consecutive passes without an interception today.

  91. Pran

    This cannot be the players, coaches and coaching. That’s it.
    Even top picks are ruined in this system.

  92. Blitzy the Clown

    When did they put Olu in for Brown?

    • pdway

      was just mentioned – – Brown hurt

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Ah just got the update Brown is out with a knee injury

    • Big Mike

      This series. Brown hurt

  93. Palatypus

    If a rookie falls in the woods and there is no one there to see it…

  94. pdway

    have to say — O-line holding up pretty well so far

  95. KnoxHawk

    K9 still struggling to get north and south when the play is doomed

  96. Henry Taylor

    I’m getting kind of annoyed that every run is a draw. Can we just run wide zone from under centre?

  97. Blitzy the Clown

    Go for it or no?

    • pdway

      i would’ve….

  98. Big Mike

    If we don’t convert this it will be 21 to 7 and it may anyway

  99. pdway

    weak sauce… just go for that 4th and 3

  100. Henry Taylor

    What a great use of a timeout

  101. Blitzy the Clown

    Anyone else see Lions DE John Cominsky run into DK on Seahawks sideline and the ref jumped in to prevent DK from retaliating?

  102. Bmseattle

    Have you ever seen a more obvious “we’re not really going for it, please jump offsides” play than that?

  103. Palatypus

    They keep mentioning that it is Patrick Mahommes birthday.

    Should I send him a cake?

  104. ShowMeYourHawk

    I can’t think of a worse decision than to pass up a 4th and 3 to put your defense back on the field with all three timeouts.

    • Peter

      Pete’s a joke with situational awareness. Go for it under two minutes.

      • ShowMeYourHawk

        Okay, well it appears to have worked. Lucky.

        • Big Mike

          It worked cuz their WR can’t catch

  105. Bmseattle

    Ah, another “juat fair catch it to be safe…even if you have 20 yards of clearance” call.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Looks like he regretted it

  106. Mick

    Myles Adams looked really good on that 3rd down.

  107. Pran

    DJ’s fair catch caught Detroit by surprise.. Seahawks finally managed to surprise them

  108. downtownjewelrybryan

    come on guys get close enough so myers can miss again

  109. Blitzy the Clown

    The play calling on this final drive of the half is…baffling to me. How could you not use the sidelines in this situation?

    • Bmseattle

      No shit…you might as well throw middle of field rsther than 5 yard outs that dont get out of bounds

  110. Blitzy the Clown

    Brown back in at C

  111. Blitzy the Clown

    Sad trombone

    • pdway

      come on Myers….

      otherwise, you gotta say that’s a decent half for our guys.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        I’d say it was a decent half for certain position groups.

        But not a decent half overall.

        Cheers to the OL, WRs, Geno (mostly). Jeers for the D, especially LBs and DBs and pass rush.

        • pdway

          yeah – but should be at least 14-10, against a team that beat KC last week. that’s on the high side of where I thought this would be at the half.

  112. ShowMeYourHawk

    Gonna need to look at some FA kickers this week.

  113. Palatypus

    Baker Mayfield won the scepter for angry runs last week and now he’s running all over the place.

    Big Mike, who is getting the glass peacock?

    • Big Mike

      Jason Myers and the d-line neck and neck at the half.

      • Palatypus

        Shouldn’t that be a glass slipper?

  114. downtownjewelrybryan

    dk should sucker punch him

  115. KennyBadger

    Laces out Jason.

  116. Mick

    It comes to Myers costing us 6 points. Terrible.

  117. Gross MaToast

    One thing I know for sure – Pete and these coordinators are unmatched at making half-time adjustments.

    Unleash the…whatever…

    • Blitzy the Clown


    • Big Mike

      Yeah thos halftime adjustments last week made all the difference

  118. jed

    They deserve 0 points for punting it on 4th & 3 after burning a time out.

    • MaxInVan

      Get over yourself man. They punted, the ball was downed at the 5 and the defense played a good series to give the offense a chance to put points on the board before half.

      • Big Mike

        While I think punting was the right call, the D did not play a good series. The WR for the Lions drppped a pass that likely would’ve been a 40 yd gain.

  119. ShowMeYourHawk

    Not to be dramatic but I feel that the shot of DK’s face after the second Myers miss will be indicative of the remainder of the season.

    • Big Mike

      I don’t think this is hyperbole

  120. Palatypus

    Can you put a coach in concussion protocol?

    • Hawkster

      I’m still getting over the Equus reference to much to parse this aspect of neurology meets NFL.

  121. Pran

    Geno is holding back offense.
    Meyers is holding back Special teams
    There is no D

    Season of gloom is here..

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Geno is one of the few positives today

      • Pran

        Not by much.. This offense should put a lot more points on board given the talent. Not taking yards, not giving receivers a chance on the sideline throws and what not..

      • Justaguy

        That’s almost the euphemism is would use to describe Geno

  122. Big Mike

    Geno good so far
    Oline pass pro holding up but run blocking is poor
    D? shit as usual
    Punter all world
    Kicker not even all KingCo league

    • Big Mike

      EDIT: Geno good so far except when he didn’t run with a wide open field in front of him

  123. Bmseattle

    Well, our one scoring drive was assisted by 4 penalties on Detroit.
    Detroit gets the ball first after halftime.
    We have zero sacks or pressures.
    Our tackling and coverage has been bad.
    We cant rely upon our kicker at all.

    Any positives?
    Geno looks better this week.
    Unfortunately, that isnt enough.

    • Justaguy

      Down one touchdown at half is better than expected. Maybe this team can luck it’s way into a W

    • pdway

      offense had a solid half. they didn’t just get that TD b/c of the penalties, and our own penalties offset theirs – – they put up 184 yards and held the ball for 17 minutes. It should be 14-10, if not 14-13.

      D still looks soft…..

    • Peter

      Half time radio show saying Seattle defense looking stout for the most part….checks notes….better hope the lions don’t double their current output or the totals will be worse than the rams yardage wise. And nearly the same score.

      • MaxInVan

        Stats lie. They got 45 yards on the last play of the half.

  124. Palatypus

    Is Rodrigo Blankenship healthy?

  125. ShowMeYourHawk

    Everyone remember the much ballyhooed hire of Brandon Jordan, the “pass rush specialist?”

    *inserts Office Space “What Would You Say You Do Here?” GIF*

  126. MaxInVan

    I thought it was decent first half. This is a good Detroit team with a really good O that went into KC last week and won.

    I just think perspective is important. We are down both starting tackles, our number 1 corner and number 1 receiver. Despite this, are down 1 score on the road and have left points on the board.

    I just think we should be changing our expectations a little given the cirmustances

  127. Palatypus

    Two questions:

    1) How does Trevor Lawrence keep his hair that way in this Florida humidity?

    2) How come Patrick Mahomes is doing the Head and Shoulders commercials?

    • UkAlex6674

      1. I heard by not washing it every day
      2. Because he 100% is head and shoulders above everyone else

  128. Blitzy the Clown

    Now that’s how you start a half!

    Nwosu is our best most consistent defender

    • Peter

      That’ll do!!

    • pdway


  129. Blitzy the Clown

    That’s the K9 shuffle baby!

  130. UkAlex6674

    LET’S GO!

  131. ShowMeYourHawk

    Man, Walker’s vision is unreal.

    • pdway

      I frickin love Walker

    • Hawkster

      Dude definitely finds opportunities others might miss and has the skills to close.

    • Big Mike

      Really elite

      • Hawkster

        Stone did a good job collapsing the edge once it went that way.

        • Blitzy the Clown

          Forsythe has shown well today. I think he’s exceeded most expectations so far.

  132. Blitzy the Clown

    And suddenly it’s a new game

  133. Troy

    Nwoso blow up the play, TE for a chunk play, walker with the vision into the end zone.

    Chefs kiss 👩‍🍳 😘

    • Palatypus

      The Kansas City Chefs?

  134. Blitzy the Clown

    Amazing catch by St Brown. Love’s coverage was tight

  135. Big Mike

    Dear Shane Waldron
    That’s called a screen play

    • MaxInVan

      an illegal one

      • Big Mike

        Very questionable call and little actual effect on the play

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Um, our 2yd gains on passes behind the line of scrimmage are just fine, thank you very much.

  136. Blitzy the Clown

    Sorry if y’all heard me yell “SCREEN”

    • Palatypus

      It was droned out by the sound of Rob typing.

  137. Palatypus

    How many flags is that?

  138. Pran

    Get that guy Ben Johnson to Seattle

  139. Big Mike

    Dear Shane Waldron that’s called red zone creativity

  140. Palatypus

    I count seven flags so far. I figure the over/under is 13.

  141. Blitzy the Clown

    This game is a little Creed-Balboa (the first one)

    • Palatypus

      Last week was Dustin Diamond versus Danny Bonaduce.

  142. Peter

    Updated keys to the game:

    We need detroit to really up their penalties because we can’t stop them.

    • Palatypus

      We have just the crew to do that.

  143. BrandoK

    This defense is just so bad its so hard to watch I don’t have any trust in them getting a stop.

    • Hawkster

      If I was an OC vs SEA I would never punt the ball, analytics just doesn’t support the idea.

      • Kyle R

        Or settle for a field goal really just go for it until a TD.

        • Hawkster

          I can see the occasional go ahead FG, but otherwise it is just a 4 down game against PCHurtt

      • BrandoK

        So true but the OC doesn’t have to worry about 4th down cause they will 90% of the time convert on 3rd down.

  144. Blitzy the Clown

    There you go. Press the pedal

  145. Blitzy the Clown

    Geno ice ice baby

    • Big Mike

      The Geno wiggle
      Helluva play

  146. Blitzy the Clown

    Beautiful textbook draw play

  147. Kyle R

    Glad they are sticking with the running game here in the second half.

  148. Blitzy the Clown

    Seems like Dissly’s YAC has been good

    • Kyle R

      The offense last year was really going when we ran the ball and got the TE involved a good portion of the game.

  149. Troy

    No matter the result, I’m much more impressed with the fight and grit showed today.

  150. Palatypus

    So, if I were Shawn Hocculi and want to do some point shaving I would call.

    A) Taunting
    B) Helmet-to-helmet contact
    C) Illegal Formation
    D) Tripping
    E) Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Sideline

  151. BrandoK

    Run the ball we have 2 awsome RB’s

  152. Bmseattle

    Seems like the defender was just reacting to the facemask.

  153. Blitzy the Clown

    Forsythe holding his own against Hutch

    • Palatypus

      Obvious all the way out here in Florida.

      • Palatypus

        The holding.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Aka the danger zone

        • Blitzy the Clown

          The Florida

          • Palatypus

            Danger Zone is the paintball field at the Naval Air Station.

            • Blitzy the Clown

              Have you been?

              • Palatypus


  154. BrandoK

    We still need to bring in a FA kicker I don’t trust Myers

  155. Ground_Hawk

    Converting that turnover into 7 points was crucial.

    Settling for 3 points isn’t going to cut it against this Detroit offense imo

  156. MaxInVan

    with made kicks, we are winning this game.

    • Big Mike

      Very true

  157. Kyle R

    Trading field goal tries with TDs is not a winning strategy.

  158. ShowMeYourHawk

    Jeez… how bad is the Chiefs OL that Hutchinson looked like another Bosa?

    • Bmseattle

      Too bad we dont play the chiefs this year. We might get a sack against them

  159. BrandoK

    Is it just me but why do people keep praising bobby wagner saying he looks good out there but for me just looks slow and below average.

    • Hawkster

      He doesn’t even seem to break down well, I can’t believe I am saying that.

  160. Blitzy the Clown

    Great stop Seattle

    • Big Mike

      Excellent no call by the refs. Probably not catchable anyway but still…

  161. ShowMeYourHawk

    WAIT! A “blitz” can help apply pressure to a QB?

  162. MaxInVan

    Biases aside, very glad that wasn’t called, it was incidental contact

  163. Blitzy the Clown

    A pair of penalties for Haynes today

  164. Troy

    2 amazing stops by the D there, let’s hope the offense can capitalize

    • Hawkster

      Simply logic: If 1) it was a stop and 2) it was SEA def, then 3) it was amazing.

  165. Big Mike

    Wondering if Montgomery has the dreaded Bo Jackson injury?

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Looks like he had an ice bag on his knee

  166. MaxInVan

    Regardless of the result of this game, I think we all appreciate the effort thus far. Its been hard fought, gritty game, in a hostile environment and the boys have gone toe to toe with this good Lions team

  167. Big Mike

    Excellent play again by Geno

  168. Blitzy the Clown

    1. Geno is as cool as a cucumber with a rusher in his face today

    2. Dissly’s YAC is whack yo

  169. Blitzy the Clown

    Zach attack gettin it done!

  170. pdway

    ok, I think i’m gonna like this Charbonnet just fine…

  171. Big Mike

    There are plenty of things to criticize Pete Carroll about but having his team ready to play at 10 AM in the Eastern time zone is not one of them. 14 of last 15 were wins that’s something else

    • Blitzy the Clown


  172. Palatypus

    FWIW, my cousin’s daughter just hit a triple for Mississippi State in fall ball.

    Off to a good start.

  173. Big Mike

    Shit fucking call
    NY stepping in to keep the darling team ahead

  174. pdway

    wow — – that’s an incredibly f’d up grounding call

    • Bmseattle

      Its calls like that that raise…questions.

      • Big Mike


  175. Kyle R

    I’m not a blame the ref guy but that was a terrible call.

  176. ShowMeYourHawk

    Nice decision to run by Geno. If he’d done that earlier, we’d have the lead.

  177. Big Mike

    Still waiting for Blandino…

    • Big Mike

      Your silence speaks volumes

  178. Kyle R

    Well at least with stupidity we earned that flag.

  179. Blitzy the Clown

    Why isn’t an intentional grounding penalty challengeable?

    • Big Mike

      So NY can influence outcomes?

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Yeah, well NY can put that completion and conversion in their pipes and smoke it

  180. TheOtherJordan

    Shawn Hochuli has been a joke since he was a Pac-12 ref. He literally made up two calls I can remember clearly. Guy is an NFL referee because of his daddy. That was a horrible call.

  181. MaxInVan


    The amount of time that happens and goes unseen is unbelievable. The timekeeper starts the play clock after the play but then doesn’t reset it after the penalty call.

    • Palatypus

      Hmmm…didn’t have that one on my bingo card.

    • pdway

      good observation …didn’t note that

  182. Blitzy the Clown

    Damn straight! Put your thumb on THAT nfl!

  183. Big Mike

    Perfect throw
    Great catch

    Overcame a screwing by the refs

    • Peter

      Lockett remains timeless.

      • Blitzy the Clown

        In terms of pick-to-value, he has to the the second best draft selection of the PC/JS era

        • Big Mike

          And don’t forget he overcame a very serious injury

          • Peter


            Not disrespected. But maybe the least praised wr at his level in the league.

          • Hawkster

            I was full of all sorts of “I told you so” with that injury. Instead we get a superhero.

  184. Kyle R

    Beautiful ball placement by Geno on that TD

  185. pdway

    great drive Hawks… us out now D!!

  186. Blitzy the Clown

    Looks like there’s some life left in the boyos yet, mates!

  187. pdway

    beginning to think J Geils had it right – – Love stinks

  188. Blitzy the Clown

    Tre Brown with the…sack?

  189. BrandoK

    Was that a sack

  190. pdway


  191. Kyle R

    Whoa!!! That’s a game changer!

  192. BrandoK

    This team is too confusing to watch

  193. Big Mike

    There goes Goffs no interception streak 😀

  194. Blitzy the Clown

    Nwosu made that happen. And great heads up by Brown who, hold on to your ass, just made two consecutive highlight reel plays

  195. Palatypus

    No record for you Ken doll.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      “That’s Kenough.” – Tre Brown

  196. pdway

    and there goes that completions w out an INT record….

  197. Kyle R

    It’s almost like pressure causes bad things to happen to the offense!

  198. Palatypus

    Wait, do we have a nose tackle? Was that Cameron Young beating a double team on that sack?

  199. HOUSE

    Great pressure and play there. Nice Pick-6 Brown!

  200. Peter


    Seattle should see about playing all their games away.

  201. Blitzy the Clown

    Ok so Nwosu does his job by holding the edge and turning the runner back inside, and a trailing Brooks overruns the gap? C’mon man

    And then Darrell man

  202. Hawkster

    That was so “first read throw” that cha mentioned.

  203. Gaux Hawks

    starting to believe that this defense is 90% worthy of being in the top 30.

  204. Blitzy the Clown

    My goodness Tre Brown’s switch has been flipped

    • Bmseattle

      Maybe he’s more comfortable on the right side?

  205. Blitzy the Clown

    Jones Tasmanian deviling himself to that sack

  206. ShowMeYourHawk

    Dre’Mont sighting. Drink!

  207. BrandoK

    Wow another sack

  208. Palatypus

    KC has 11 penalties for 89 yards.

  209. Troy

    Dremont sighting!!!

  210. Big Mike

    D has definitely picked it up

    • Bmseattle

      Hope there isnt an “untimely” penalty

    • Big Mike

      I jinxed it

      • Palatypus

        NO, YOU PREDICTED IT !!!

  211. Blitzy the Clown


  212. BrandoK

    another 3rd down conversion what a surprise

  213. Blitzy the Clown

    Tackling is still a problem

  214. Kyle R

    I mean that was great tackling on that play….Jesus

  215. ShowMeYourHawk

    Safety and CB trying to hand tackle a TE? *sigh*

  216. BrandoK

    This team really don’t know how to wrap up when tackling

  217. Blitzy the Clown

    Jordyn Brooks has had a pretty good game, despite not finishing off all his tackles. But his speed to the ball is remarkable

  218. pdway

    D was showing life there….that 3rd and 13 conversion was a killer.

    up to the offense – – we haven’t been good at this part of things for a while.

  219. Kyle R

    Alright offense time to get a couple first downs and ice the damn game.

  220. Palatypus

    Win probability is a useless statistic in the NFL.

  221. Kyle R

    You need to run the damn ball there to run the clock to 2 minutes!

  222. BrandoK

    Why is this team so bad with screen plays

  223. pdway

    are you f-ing kidding me

  224. Big Mike

    After having an excellent game he does that

  225. Blitzy the Clown

    Why didn’t he throw it?!?!

    • Mick

      Well designed play so we have more room to punt…

  226. BrandoK

    WTF was that Geno

  227. Palatypus

    Bwahahahahahha !!!

  228. icb12

    Geno out here with his best Russell Wilson impression. Good grief.

  229. pdway

    witherspoon literally got called for PI on that same play earlier in the game

    that’s a HUGE call to give them at this point in the game.

    • GoHawks5151

      Yep. Kelce does not get that call on him. Everyone hates Colby

    • Big Mike

      He did extend his arms

  230. ShowMeYourHawk


  231. Kyle R

    That was the worst offensive set I’ve seen to try and run the game out

  232. HOUSE

    You have to throw that ball away!!! WTH Geno

    • Pran

      That play is why Geno sucks.. You can’t win games playing dumb

  233. Hawkster

    Impressive that SEA managed to not take a minute off the clock.

  234. Peter

    That penalty to run around combo…..bull ish

  235. BrandoK

    Did Geno think he could out run all of those Dline

  236. ShowMeYourHawk

    Abandoning the run with a lead and a chance to force them to use their timeouts? Nope, don’t like it.

    • Kyle R

      Why the Hell they didn’t run it on 1st or 2nd down I don’t know.

  237. STTBM

    Even Cousins and Garappolo throw that one away.

    One of the dumber things I’ve ever seen from a QB.

  238. Blitzy the Clown

    I’m all for extending the play past the 2 minute warning so that when we punt it to Detroit they have one less timeout.

    But you have to throw the ball out of bounds while you’re running to the sidelines

  239. BrandoK

    Can we bench Geno

  240. Troy D

    I would be angry if a rookie, in his 2nd game, did whatt Geno just did. At no point was he even trying to throw the football. Honestly was he throwing the game?

  241. Palatypus

    We are at 11 penalties. Over/Under I said 13.

  242. Blitzy the Clown

    OT is the best we can hope for

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Minus a punchout, yep.

    • Mick

      Can’t believe we’re letting this one slip away

      • MaxInVan

        we had basically a game clinching first wiped off for a play that was called DPI in the 1st half, and is now OPI in the second

  243. GoHawks5151

    No call hold on Spoon. Game falling apart

    • pdway

      saw that too

  244. BrandoK

    just a question was Geno trying to get a safety on that last possession because that was a WTF moment

  245. Palatypus

    Watch Bobo block it.

  246. Hawkster

    Go for it … ?

    • Hawkster

      DET shoulda went for it on 4th

  247. BrandoK

    What little belief I had in Geno is all gone can’t trust him at all

  248. Palatypus

    This overtime has been brought to you by the Ceasar’s Sports Book App.

    • Peter


  249. pdway

    we lose this — Myers gets a big scoop of the blame….

    • Big Mike


      • Peter

        Fun game. Stressful. Myers blech. But this team is still flawed. Some great breaks with brown and nwossu forcing the fumble.

  250. Blitzy the Clown

    Frustrating. But entertaining

  251. Tony

    This team win or lose is destined to be .500 at best. What a poorly undisciplined team. Mistakes all over. Will be lucky to get 9 wins.

  252. Pack of K9s

    The sad part is some people will blame the lions comeback on Riq being out. But i dont think it makes any difference the talent you have when the scheme is nonsensical. It could be Riq and 2013 Richard Sherman and i dont think it would matter. We might win here on a lucky coin flip. Winning on luck doesn’t make a good football team. Even if we win the Lions are a better team

    • MaxInVan

      Win by luck? Seriously? How about the lack of luck this team had in this game? The nonsensical intentional grounding, the weak OPI call on that 1st down catch that would have sealed the game, the Laporta catch on 3rd down he knew nothing about, the 2 missed field goals from Seattle. But yea, this was a lucky win for sure.

  253. Blitzy the Clown

    I’m glad Jason Peters wasn’t able to go today so we got to see Forsythe looking like a decent LT

    • Mick

      +1 he held his own today

    • pdway

      you’re totally right – -they’ve held up way better than i figured they would

  254. Palatypus

    Chicago actually did a screen worse than us.

  255. ShowMeYourHawk

    Once again, abandoning the run?

  256. Blitzy the Clown

    What a relief to see DK hold on to that catch

    • pdway

      that was a dime by Geno. stupid play at the end of the game – but he’s otherwise been good all day.

  257. Peter

    Screen pass? Why not

  258. ShowMeYourHawk

    Dallas in at RB? Was there an injury to Zach or Walker?

  259. BrandoK

    why do they keep using Dallas when they have Ken and Zach which they are way better players

    • STTBM

      He pass blocks better.

  260. Mick

    Our TEs really showing up today

  261. Blitzy the Clown

    Some of our play action today has been excellent

  262. pdway

    refs have me looking for flags on every play….

    • Palatypus

      They are in your head with all the clowns!

  263. Kyle R

    We have a good group of 3 TE they need to be used more.

  264. Palatypus

    Give it to Bellore !!!

  265. Blitzy the Clown


    All he does is…!!!

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Seahawks goat candidate Tyler Lockett

  266. ShowMeYourHawk


  267. MaxInVan

    Horrible spot on that Metcalf. BUT IT DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER

  268. Palatypus

    Geno Smith playing just well enough to stick around.

    • BrandoK

      but hes getting paid as a top 10 player but plays average to below average

    • Zane

      Oh come on

  269. Mick

    Proud of you guys!

  270. pdway

    that’s a super solid win – way to go hawks

  271. Peter

    Lockett!!! So good

  272. dand393

    Does Jaxon smith njigba even play on this team

    • Troy D

      Our coaches like the 2-3 TE sets which mean he will be on the sideline for now. I expect he will have a decent season but its still Lockett’s show for now.

  273. Kyle R

    That’s the way we’re going to have to win this year all shootouts.

  274. Blitzy the Clown

    In the end, Seahawks earned their victory today. It wasn’t given

  275. HOUSE

    Gritty win there. Saw some good things from Witherspoon/defense and offense looked a lot less hesitant compared to last week.

    Couple things that still need work, but good win. GO HAWKS!!!

  276. Troy D

    Well somehow we snatched victory from the jaws of victory. Jason Myers better being buying a round(s)

  277. STTBM

    I almost had a heart attack. Suck it, Refs and NFL!

    Was afraid they’d use that asinine fumble into the end zone rule and give it to Detroit on the 20…

    11 fourth quarter or OT drives for Geno. Long way to go catch Wilson…

    Mild hold on Hutchinson, but they don’t call that anymore. Don’t know why Announcers were whining about it. The hold on Witherspoon earlier was far more egregious.

  278. Peter

    First win against a team above .500 in over 11 games. Hope this is the start.

  279. Ground_Hawk

    Great seeing Geno connecting with Lockett!

    Glad that the defense found ways to attack and disrupt Goff

  280. dand393

    I say Drew Lock is MVP for the coon toss win

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