Live Blog: Combine day one (Defensive linemen & linebackers)

Welcome to the 2024 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog

Throughout the next few days I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis. I will also post a daily recap article and a daily live stream.

On top of that, Robbie Williams is attending the combine and will provide insight from his perspective inside Lucas Oil Field.

Keep refreshing this page for updates

The workouts begin today at 3pm ET (12pm PT).

Combine measurements

The players are measuring before they workout this year. Marvin Harrison Jr measured today, presumably because he’s leaving Indianapolis.

You can find a thread of measurements here and I’ll note some highlights below.

— Alabama defensive end Justin Eboigbe measured with 33.5 inch arms, having measure sub-33 inches at the Senior Bowl. That’s good news.

— Ohio State defensive tackle Michael Hall Jr, who is only 6-2 and 290lbs, has impressive length. He has 33.5 inch arms and an 81.5 inch wingspan, with 10-inch hands.

— McKinley Jackson, who is a heart and soul defender and will likely intrigue the Seahawks based on playing style and character, is 6-1, 326lbs and has 33.5 inch arms.

— Kris Jenkins has wow length for a defensive tackle measuring at 6-2, 299lbs with 34 inch arms. Incredible — and he’s expected to test brilliantly too.

— Byron Murphy was always viewed as undersized but 6-0, 297lbs and 32.5 inch arms is particularly small with a lack of length. His wingspan is only 77.5 inches too.

— Jer’Zhan Newton is always undersized. He’s 6-1, 304lbs and has 32.5 inch arms. His wingspan is even worse though — nearly 76 inches.

— Ruke Orhorhoro, who is a very intriguing player, is 6-4, 294lbs and has 34 inch arms.

— T’Vondre Sweat weighed 366lbs at 6-4 (33 1/4 inch arms). It’s a mild concern I think. This is after combine prep. Can he manage his weight long term? That’s been the doubt with him all along.

— Jaylen Harrell from Michigan, who I’ll be interviewing next week, is 6-3, 250lbs and 33 1/4 inch arms.

— Chop Robinson doesn’t have ideal length. He’s 6-3, 254lbs and has 32.5 inch arms with a 76 1/4 inch wingspan.

— Bralen Trice also lacks ideal length with 32.5 inch arms and a 77 inch wingspan. He’s 6-3 and 245lbs. That’s a lot lighter than expected.

— Jared Verse is 6-4, 254lbs and has 33.5 inch arms with a 79.5 inch wingspan.

— Chris Braswell is 6-3, 251lbs with 33 1/4 inch arms and an 81 inch wingspan. He’s going to be working out with the linebackers.

— Junior Colson is lighter than expected at 6-2 and 238lbs with 32.5 inch arms.

— Edgerrin Cooper, who doesn’t strike me as a Seahawks personality fit, is 6-2, 230lbs with excellent 34 inch arms.

— Cedric Gray is 6-1, 234lbs and he also has 32.5 inch arms.

— Gabriel Murphy’s arm length is only 30.5 inches which is a flag for a player who likes to rush the edge. His wingspan is 75 inches.

— Jeremiah Trotter is small — 6-0, 228lbs with 31.5 inch arms. Not ideal, he’ll need to test well.

— Zion Tupuola-Fetui is working out with the linebackers. He’s 6-2, 244lbs and has 33.5 inch arms.

— Dallas Turner is 6-2, 247lbs and has 34.5 inch arms and an 83 inch wingspan. That is fantastic length

Seahawks set to meet with Byron Murphy?

According to Tony Pauline, the Seahawks, Colts and Raiders will host the Texas defensive tackle for an ‘official-30’ visit.

40 yard dash (defensive tackles)

10-yard splits in brackets

DeWayne Carter — 5.01 (1.72) & 5.00 (1.73)
Jaden Crumedy — 5.00 (1.69) & 4.98 (1.71)
Tyler Davis — 5.02 (1.72) & 5.03 (1.72)
Brandon Dorlus — 4.85 (1.68) & 4.91 (1.70)
Justin Eboigbe — 5.18 (1.81) & 5.21 (1.80)
Braden Fiske — 4.78 (1.68) & 4.81 (1.68)
Gabe Hall — 5.06 (1.73) & 5.04 (1.72)
Marcus Harris — 5.08 (1.77) & 5.07 (1.78)
McKinley Jackson — 5.27 (1.78) & 5.26 (1.80)
Kris Jenkins — 5.02 (1.76) & 4.91 (1.70)
Logan Lee — 5.05 (1.77) & 5.06 (1.79)
Zion Logue — 5.14 (1.84) & 5.22 (1.82)
Byron Murphy — 4.88 (1.69) & 4.90 (1.70)
Myles Murphy — 5.21 (1.82) & 5.25 (1.82)
Ruke Orhorhoro — 4.90 (1.67) & 4.95 (1.70)
Keith Randolph Jr — 5.16 (1.79) & 5.20 (1.78)
Maason Smith — 5.04 (1.76) & 5.02 (1.75)
T’Vondre Sweat — 5.27 (1.80) & DNR
Leonard Taylor — 5.17 (1.76) & 5.12 (1.77)
Mekhi Wingo — 4.86 (1.64) & DNR

Defensive tackle vertical jumps

Braden Fiske — 33.5
Byron Murphy — 33
DeWayne Carter — 32
Ruke Orhorhoro — 32
Gabe Hall — 31.5
Logan Lee — 31.5
Mekhi Wingo — 31.5
Maason Smith — 31
Jordan Jefferson — 31
Brandon Dorlus — 30.5
Leonard Taylor — 30
Kris Jenkins — 30
Marcus Harris — 29.5
Jaden Crumedy — 29.5
Zion Logue — 29
Tyler Davis — 28.5
Myles Murphy — 28.5
Keith Randolph Jr — 28.5
Justin Eboigbe — 28
T’Vondre Sweat — 26
Justin Rogers — 24.5
McKinnley Jackson — 23

I wasn’t expecting McKinley Jackson to be highly explosive but a 23-inch vertical is still a little bit disappointing.

Defensive tackle broad jumps

Braden Fiske — 9’9″
Ruke Orhorhoro — 9’8″
Gabe Hall — 9’7″
Kris Jenkins — 9’7″
Logan Lee — 9’6″
Brandon Dorlus — 9’3″
Byron Murphy — 9’3″
DeWayne Carter — 9’1″
Zion Logue — 9’1″
Tyler Davis — 9’0″
McKinnley Jackson — 8’10”
Myles Murphy — 8’10”
Jaden Crumedy — 8’9″
Keith Randolph Jr — 8’9″
Jordan Jefferson — 8’8″
Marcus Harris — 8’7″
Justin Rogers — 8’3″

With Ruke Orhorhoro running a 4.90 forty (unofficial), a 1.67 10-yard split and jumping a 32 inch vertical and a 9-8 broad jump, he is the big winner so far. I had him in round two. His tape is excellent. He’s competitive with good character. This is a top-45 level athletic profile.

Michael Penix Jr update

When you’re at the combine, why not workout backstage?

Look at that arm strength:

Defensive tackle on-field drill notes

The wave drill is up first and I like this drill because it really shows off how athletic a DT class are. Based on what we saw here and with the forty times, it’s a highly athletic, intriguing group.

Firstly, Braden Fiske looks electric. He’s lightning quick in his change of direction, he’s purposeful in his movements and he’s just fast. On tape his effort stood out but I had no idea he was this athletic. Based on what we’re seeing today, he could leave the combine being considered as a difference maker up front.

Byron Murphy is a big ball of power. He lacks ideal length and size but his frame is compact, well-built and in proportion. Murphy has big, thick legs and his lower half is impressive. He just looks like a load and he moves with agility and quickness.

Ruke Ohrohoro just looks like a dude. His frame is ideal for a disruptive, impactful defensive tackle. When they asked him during the drill to take up the speed a notch, he just kicked into another gear and extended his stride. He’s a fantastic athlete and has massive potential.

T’Vondre Sweat changed direction and got around the field well for a 366lbs D-liner. He was really moving well. It was impressive. I also thought DeWayne Carter and Tyler Davis showed well in the wave drill and Mekhi Wingo continued his excellent combine. Justin Eboigbe looked stiff and Myles Murphy, who I like as a late round flier, has skinny legs.

Next they’re on to the four-bag agility drill. DeWayne Carter and Tyler Davis again looked sharp and athletic.

Braden Fiske looked like a first round pick doing this drill. Wow. Just wow. He was like lightning.

This was not McKinley Jackson’s drill. He had to re-do it and didn’t look comfortable. Kris Jenkins really flashed his athleticism here with a nice, controlled rep. He’s a very smooth mover. No surprises that Ohrohoro looked good again, very much in control with all of his movements.

T’Vondre Sweat had a stunning drill at 366lbs. Not sure I’ve seen a guy move that well at that size on an agility drill. Mekhi Wingo, again, a terrific rep too. He’s having a great day.

Apologies — I’m a bit behind as had a bit of day-job work to sort.

On to the pass rush drills which involve getting around a series of pads. I really liked the way Tyler Davis attacked the bags and got around the edge. Braden Fiske, again, looks fantastic. The only knock on him is length. Everything else is fantastic — aggression, athleticism, explosive traits, speed. Byron Murphy was gliding through his rep while Ohrohoro was powerful impacting the pad, showed good balance and footwork to shift around the pads and again looked terrific. Sweat was like a bull in a china shop on his effort.

Now it’s the run and club drill. I need to go and re-watch DeWayne Carter after the combine. He’s moved a lot better than I expected. Braden Fiske just turned the final bag on this drill like a speed-skater rounding a corner. Wow, again. And his club was fierce too. This is one of the best workouts I’ve seen in years covering the combine.

Byron Murphy produced two brutal clubs, sending the pads into next week. He also rounded the final bag with ease and flashed an ideal execution of this drill. As with the last drill, Sweat was a bit out of control of his body. Wingo impressed again — you’ll notice the theme here. There have been some very consistent, impressive performances so far.

On the figure-eight drill — sorry if I’m boring you. Fiske elite again. Rinse and repeat. He’s ticking off every drill, wowing every step of the way. Guess we’ll have to add ankle flexion and change of direction to go with all of the other traits. Kris Jenkins also had a very good drill here. Murphy had a very explosive rep. There have been some real standout performances within this class. Sweat’s rep went wrong when he missed the second towel but on his second go-around — fair play. At that size, again, doing the drill at all is impressive. He can move. Wingo, as he’s done on every rep, finished things with a bang.

Official defensive tackle 40 times

Braden Fiske — 4.78
Brandon Dorlus — 4.85
Mekhi Wingo — 4.85
Byron Murphy — 4.87
Ruke Orhorhoro — 4.89
Kris Jenkins — 4.91
Jaden Crumedy — 4.97
DeWayne Carter — 4.99
Maason Smith — 5.01
Tyler Davis — 5.02

EDGE rusher 40 yard times

10-yard splits in brackets

Austin Booker — 4.81 (1.67) & 4.80 (1.67)
Myles Cole — 4.69 (1.66) & 4.67 (1.65)
Jalyx Hunt — 4.64 (1.60) & DNR
Adisa Isaac — 4.75 (1.68) & 4.74 (1.64)
Brennan Jackson — 4.70 (1.62) & 4.71 (1.62)
Javonte Jean-Baptiste — 4.66 (1.65) & DNR
Trajan Jeffcoat — 4.70 (1.66) & 4.69 (1.66)
Cedric Johnson — 4.64 (1.61) & 4.65 (1.62)
Mohamed Kamara — 4.58 (1.58) & 4.65 (1.60)
Marshawn Kneeland — 4.76 (1.66) & 4.75 (1.66)
Laiatu Latu — 4.64 (1.62) & 4.65 (1.62)
Chop Robinson — 4.49 (1.54) & DNR
Darius Robinson — 4.95 (1.73) & 5.02 (1.77)
Javon Solomon — 4.81 (1.70) & 4.72 (1.66)
Xavier Thomas — 4.63 (1.65) & 4.64 (1.66)
Bralen Trice — 4.72 (1.65) & 4.75 (1.66)
Jared Verse — 4.60 (1.67) & 4.59 (1.60)
Eric Watts — 4.68 (1.62) & 4.68 (1.65)

Remember, a split in the 1.5’s for a dynamic edge rusher is considered elite.

No surprises there — an elite forty and 10-yard split from Chop Robinson, EDGE1 on my board and highly underrated by far too many. He has game-wrecking potential and should be seen as a top-10 pick.

Xavier Thomas seemed to hurt himself at the end of his first run but he did run a second forty (he again limped around at the end).

It’s not a great split for Jared Verse on his first run but the 40 was good for his size/profile. The second run was ideal — a 1.60 split with a 4.59 forty. Job done.

It’s disappointing to see Bralen Trice’s times given he’s about 20lbs lighter than expected. Austin Booker’s times were also a bit disappointing. It wasn’t a first round pair of runs from Darius Robinson.

They kept saying on the NFL Network this was a super fast set of forty times. We only had two 1.5 10-yard splits. So that isn’t accurate.

A number of EDGE rushers didn’t run a forty.

Geno Smith back in Seattle next season

The fact that this has had to be ‘reported’ does lend itself to being worthy of noting — nobody else is doing this. But it does seemingly provide closure to the matter:

Now we need to see whether the Seahawks like someone enough in this draft to finally add to a record of two quarterbacks taken in 14 years, or whether they’ll push the longer-term search into 2025. Sooner rather than later, they’re going to have to do something at QB.

EDGE on-field drill notes

Chop Robinson really opened his hips up in a wave drill where few of the edge rushers shone. There’s a marked difference between Robinson and the rest. Bralen Trice moved well showing a good change of direction. Jared Verse looks the part but stumbled a little bit with his footing changing direction.

The NFL Network missed the four-bag drills due to a commercial break. We did just catch Jared Verse’s rep and he did well — he’s a little bit stiff in his movements but he’s more of a power-end than a dynamic speed edge.

On the pass rush drills, it was a fairly routine set of reps. Robinson stumbled a bit as he rounded the final bag on his second rep. I like the quickness with his hands. Jared Verse impressed the both, leaning beyond the final bag and changing direction with dynamism.

We missed the entire drill of going around the bags and bending around the edge for commercials. It’s been an underwhelming set of edge rush drills. They’re all doing the figure of eight drill fine, nothing spectacular. Laiatu Latu and Chop Robinson had two very smooth reps. Bralen Trice dropped the towel and had to do his rep again. Jared Verse messed his rep up and didn’t even collect the first towel. Trice’s second rep was a bit all over the place. Verse’s second effort was also poor — with his hand on the turf guiding around the second half of the rep.

It sounds like Trice hurt himself during this drill.

Another commercial break cut into the drills and that’s your lot. Underwhelming performances and coverage frankly.

Official EDGE 40 times

Chop Robinson — 4.48
Mohamed Kamara — 4.57
Jared Verse — 4.58
Xavier Thomas — 4.62
Cedric Johnson — 4.63
Laiatu Latu — 4.64
Jalyx Hunt — 4.64
Javonte Jean-Baptiste — 4.66
Myles Cole — 4.67
Eric Watts — 4.67

EDGE rush vertical jumps

Cedric Johnson — 38
Jalyx Hunt — 37.5
Jaylen Harrell — 37
Javon Solomon — 37
Eric Watts — 36.5
Marshawn Kneeland — 35.5
Jared Verse — 35
Myles Cole — 35
Darius Robinson — 35
Adisa Isaac — 34.5
Javontae Jean-Baptise — 34.5
Chop Robinson — 34.5
Mohamed Kamara — 34.5
Brennan Jackson — 33.5
Austin Booker — 32.5
Xavier Thomas — 32.5
Laiatu Latu — 32
David Ugwoegbu — 31.5
Trajan Jeffcoat — 31.5
Nelson Ceaser — 31
Brandon Dorlus — 30.5

EDGE rush broad jumps

Jalyx Hunt — 10-8
Chop Robinson — 10-8
Javontae Jean-Baptise — 10-7
Jared Verse — 10-7
Adisa Isaac — 10-3
Mohamed Kamara — 10-3
Cedric Johnson — 10-2
Trajan Jeffcoat — 10
Myles Cole — 10
Austin Booker — 10
Xavier Thomas — 10
Marshawn Kneeland — 9-11
Javon Solomon — 9-11
Jaylen Harrell — 9-10
Eric Watts — 9-9
Laiatu Latu — 9-8
Brennan Jackson — 9-6
Brandon Dorlus — 9-3
Darius Robinson — 9-3

40 yard dash (linebackers)

Chris Braswell — 4.60 & 4.63
Aaron Casey — 4.80 & 4.75
Edgerrin Cooper — 4.52 & 4.55
Kalen DeLoach — 4.55 & 4.47
Khalid Duke — 4.80 & 4.81
Tommy Eichenburg — DNR
Steele Chambers — DNR
Jaylan Ford — DNR
Easton Gibbs — 4.74 & 4.74
Cedric Gray — 4.66 & 4.64
Curtis Jacobs — 4.58 & 4.59
Tyrice Knight — 4.66 & 4.63
Marist Liufau — 4.66 & 4.64
Jordan Magee — 4.55 & 4.62
Darius Muasau — 4.72 & 4.70
Gabriel Murphy — 4.69 & 4.68
Maema Njongmeta — 4.94 & 4.92
Dallas Turner — 4.47 & DNR
Edefuan Ulofoshio — 4.56 & 4.59
Trevin Wallace — 4.52 & 4.55
Nathaniel Watson — 4.64 & 4.66
Payton Wilson — 4.44 & 4.49

As you can see, several linebackers didn’t run. Junior Colson doesn’t appear to be doing anything, after saying he had a strained hamstring yesterday. Jeremiah Trotter didn’t do any testing.

Once again, despite this group including pass rushers, the NFL Network won’t show the 10-yard splits for linebackers. Why? It’s so pointless not to.

Linebacker vertical jumps

Dallas Turner — 40.5
Gabriel Murphy — 39.5
Edefuan Ulofoshio — 39.5
Trevin Wallace — 37.5
Darius Muasau — 36.5
Jordan Magee — 35.5
Cedric Gray — 35.5
Tyrice Knight — 34.5
Edgerrin Cooper — 34.5
Payton Wilson — 34.5
Khalid Duke — 34
Chris Braswell — 33.5
Steele Chambers — 33.5
Jaylan Ford — 33.5
Tommy Eichenburg — 32.5
Easton Gibbs — 31.5
Nathaniel Watson — 31
Kalen DeLoach — 30.5
Aaron Casey — 30

Linebacker broad jumps

Dallas Turner — 40.5
Gabriel Murphy — 39.5
Edefuan Ulofoshio — 10-8
Dallas Turner — 10-7
Trevin Wallace — 10-7
Curtis Jacobs — 10-4
Jordan Magee — 10-4
Gabriel Murphy 10-3
Jaylan Ford — 10-1
Cedric Gray — 10-0
Tyrice Knight — 9-11
Payton Wilson — 9-11
Kalen DeLoach — 9-11
Edgerrin Cooper — 9-10
Aaron Casey — 9-9
Khalid Duke — 9-9
Tommy Eichenburg — 9-9
Darius Muasau — 9-9
Chris Braswell — 9-7
Steele Chambers — 9-4
Jontrey Hunter — 9-3
Nathaniel Watson — 9-3
Easton Gibbs — 9-1

Short shuttle and three cone times

Short shuttle times

Marshawn Kneeland — 4.18
Chop Robinson — 4.25
Braden Fiske — 4.37
Logan Lee — 4.37
Jared Verse — 4.44
Nelson Ceaser — 4.57
Jaden Crumedy — 4.66
Gabe Hall — 4.67
Maason Smith — 4.69
Eric Watts — 4.73
DeWayne Carter — 4.75
Kris Jenkins — 4.78
Myles Murphy — 4.81
Justin Rogers — 4.87
Zion Logue — 4.92
Tyler Davis — 5.00

Three cone times

Marshawn Kneeland — 7.02
Logan Lee — 7.16
Nelson Ceaser — 7.30
Jared Verse – 7.31
Brandon Dorlus — 7.43
Eric Watts — 7.59
Maason Smith — 7.62
Gabe Hall — 7.65
Leonard Taylor — 7.81
DeWayne Carter — 7.91

Braden Fiske’s short shuttle at 292lbs is incredible.

Linebacker on-field drill notes

The wave drill went by without much intrigue. Trevin Wallace probably had the best rep. Jeremiah Trotter looks so small. There’s nobody from this group who leaps off the screen. Payton Wilson had the best forty but stumbled a bit on the wave.

Dallas Turner matched Chop Robinson’s 1.54 10-yard split when he ran his forty. Gabriel Murphy (1.59) and Chris Braswell (1.59) both ran in the 1.5’s.

More commercials as the drills are ongoing so we’re missing the linebacker workouts. I’ll wrap up the live blog shortly. Robbie and I will be live on a stream at 6pm PT and I’ll have a recap article coming.

They’re running a shuffle/sprint/change direction drill this year. Trotter looked stiff to me. Everything just feels average although Trevin Wallace and Payton Wilson ended that drill well.

Dallas Turner seems to be picking and choosing which drills he’s doing. He didn’t move very well in space, despite what the NFL Network said, during the backpedal drill. Payton Wilson had the best rep here. Again, it felt like there was a lot of stiffness across the group.

Official linebacker 40 times

Payton Wilson — 4.43
Dallas Turner — 4.46
Kalen DeLoach — 4.47
Edgerrin Cooper — 4.51
Trevin Wallace — 4.51
Jordan Magee — 4.55
Edefuan Ulofoshio — 4.56
Curtis Jacobs — 4.58
Chris Braswell — 4.60
Tyrice Knight — 4.63

The on-field drills are seemingly over (the NFL Network have stopped showing them anyway). Live stream coming at 6pm PT and a recap article will be live shortly.

143 Comments

  1. Peter

    Sweat is a weird one. Is heavy and hopefully fast. Good length. Or rather fine length but not really an impressive size beyond the girth.

    • JJ

      How does he compare to Jordan Davis?

      • Peter

        2″ taller and the fastest 40 yd dash of a +310lb guy in around 20 years. Freak show level athlete.

        • Peter

          Just looking back at photos Davis looked like an absolute monster at the combine.

          I like sweat but his extra 25 lbs looks like a bunch of fat on his belly.

      • Rob Staton

        Jordan Davis very different body type — basically Thanos

    • Rob Staton

      The thing that bothers me with Sweat is he’s visibly carrying a lot of ‘bad’ weight

      • Palatypus

        His running style reminds me of Jake Gyllenhaal in the movie Bubble Boy.

      • MarkinSeattle

        Devil’s advocate, but so did Jerome Bettis and Jeremiah Trotter. If he can carry any extra 25 lbs and it doesn’t impact his speed/velocity, that is an extra 25 lbs medicine ball hitting that OL. That whole force equation.

        It may also just reflect a lazy attitude that will never translate into a top level pro.

  2. Peter

    Murphy,Chop, I’m hoping the size parameters that have netted us reed, mafe, and not much else go take a break in Hawaii with Pete.

  3. Blitzy the Clown

    I’m not concerned about Robinson’s length. But I think I’m out on Newton and Trice unless they’re late Day 2.

    I am quite alright with Kris Jenkins. Dude gives me a BAMF vibe.

  4. ShowMeYourHawk

    Any physiologists here? How much does back fat affect Sweat’s arm/wingspan measurements? 🤣

  5. Blitzy the Clown

    Wow Rob your updates are fast!

  6. Blitzy the Clown

    Brandon Dorlus 👀

    • Blitzy the Clown

      +1 for Braden Fiske

      • Peter

        Fiske is a guy I love who is currently testing fantastic. Here’s to arm length being given an “advisory role,” this draft.

        Maybe with Spoon and JSN some if that is going the way of the dodo.

        • cha

          I think we can credit JS with that change.

          Pete clearly said he wasn’t looking at DJ Reed and JS talked him into picking him up off the injury waivers.

      • cha

        He’s making some money today.

  7. GF

    Bralen Trice’s weight …….. that’s soooo bad

    • Rob Staton

      Not good

  8. Blitzy the Clown

    Hmmm not as quick for Jenkins as I’d hoped

  9. Shibu

    How does Michael Hall Jr’s game compares to Justin Madubuike. I can appreciate that the Seahawks may not necessarily be looking for the same type of player but it was nice to see MacDonald unlock Madubuike this past year.

    Michael Hall Jr
    HT: 6’3″
    WT: 290 lbs
    Arm: 33.5″
    Hand: 10″

    Justin Madubuike (at Combine)
    HT: 6’3″
    WT: 293 lbs
    Arm: 33.5″
    Hand: 9″

    • Alex Potts

      Similar type of player. Michael Hall is a ball of energy and is also very young but needs some physical development. I like the comparison

  10. Peter

    Ruke with that 10 yard split….

  11. cha

    https://twitter.com/curtis93969/status/1763300268794642872

    Around the pillar
    Under the eaves
    Past the concierge desk

    Nothing but net

    • Blitzy the Clown

      I think he’s a likely R2 trade up target if the pieces are in place

      • Peter

        Or round one if they can get back just a bit.

        • Brodie

          Trading down around 8-10 picks and taking Penix makes so much sense. I don’t know if they can (or will) but it just feels like it would be such a win/win.

          He makes some throws that I’ve never seen a college QB make.

    • Rob Staton

      Benjamin Solak said in a video I saw on YouTube that Penix didn’t have a great arm

      Then went on to say Geno might get more out of the deep ball in Grubb’s offense

      I mean, what the actual f*** do people watch??

      • Brodie

        He’s part of the Ringer. That place is like the pop culture/NFL/fantasy crossover landing hub for the casual-serious fan.

        I will say their website is beautiful and I really like Danny Kelly. It kind of cracks me up that they published a mock draft from Danny Heifitz though. The guy openly cops to not watching much college football, doesn’t know who certain top tier guys are etc. It’s like a Mike Salk mock draft.

        To your point, I don’t see how anyone can watch the throws Penix makes and think, nah – average arm.

    • Group Captain Mandrake

      That, my friend, is what is commonly referred to as a cannon. Wow.

  12. Blitzy the Clown

    Maybe it’s because he has long legs but Ruke Orhorhoro reminds me of Calais Campbell

    • Peter

      What could he be with coaching?

      He’s all gas no breaks when I watch his highlights. The lack of playing experience makes me dream of what coach Mike and the lads could do with him.

    • Rob Staton

      Ruke is very, very similar to Justin Madubuike as a player

      Madubuike, regulars will recall, was a blog favourite. I had Orhorhoro in R2 on the board

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Overall he’s the big winner from the DT group. Outstanding athleticism at his size.

  13. Dustin

    I like Fiske, he reminds me of Poona Ford.

  14. UkAlex6674

    Kris Jenkins is on my draft list for sure.

  15. Blitzy the Clown

    4.91 for Jenkins second run much better

    Liking him a lot

  16. Blitzy the Clown

    Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons are prototypical DTs

    Prime Aaron Donald is better than either, but he’s not prototypical. He’s just a freak.

  17. Palatypus

    I’m sure Clint Hurtt is paying careful attention to how these defensive tackles backpedal in the wave drill.

    • geoff u

      Clint Hurtt thinks Sweat is actually underweight.

  18. Blitzy the Clown

    McKinley Jackson moves better than his testing numbers suggest he could

  19. GF

    I don’t like Maason Smith but:

    Maason Smith
    6051 / 306
    35 arm / 84 5/8 wing

    Maason Smith — 5.04 (1.76) & 5.02 (1.75)

    Not bad

  20. Blitzy the Clown

    Byron Murphy is a unit

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      Maybe he’s too good for us to move down from #16? If he’s there, maybe we stick.

  21. Blitzy the Clown

    Pretty impressed with Mekhi Wingo as well

    • Palatypus

      Looked good in the bag drill too.

  22. Palatypus

    Watching Ruke do the wave drill and then Sweat almost right after is startling.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Disagree with whoever said Sweat moved well. I thought he looked sloppy

  23. Blitzy the Clown

    Sweat looked better there

  24. Palatypus

    T’Vondre Sweat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrhDImlI0-E

  25. Palatypus

    I was wondering if anyone saw Ruke go Joe Frazier on that guy in the bag drill.

  26. Palatypus

    I’ve been wondering for a while why Crumedy is not on Rob’s horizontal board. He looks draftable.

  27. PJ in Seattle

    Well, my hopes that Ruke Orhorhoro would be in play with one of our 3rd round picks have gone up in smoke today.

  28. Denver Hawker

    This is cool: Fiske overlay Murphy: https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1763318880829596158?s=46&t=cOHU3a7sncZq-_1QP4M1Og

    • TMcQ

      That is a cool overlay! For me it makes Fiske look like a wild man, hair on fire but what he’s doing might not be good technique? On the spin move he’s off balance and what becomes his outside foot is hanging way up in the air, and his elbows are flying. I’m not a coach but it makes me wonder whether there’s space on the line of scrimmage for those moves to work on game day. Murphy keeps his base compact and center of gravity is under control.
      In short, Fiske’s time is better but I don’t know if it will work the same way on game day?

  29. Gross MaToast

    “T’Vondre Sweat at 366 lbs just ran his 40 yard dash in 5.27 seconds and it was FLUID. Sweat’s adjusted 40 time at his height and weight is like an 180 pound DB running a 4.26.”

    https://twitter.com/RGIII/status/1763307842369442078

    • Palatypus

      Yeah, there was a lot of fluid.

    • Group Captain Mandrake

      Too bad the world doesn’t really work that way. But honestly, I don’t really care a bit about his 40 time. That’s not what he is on the field to do. I do care about his conditioning though.

    • Brodie

      Height and weight adjusted? How the hell do you compute that?

      My adjusted 40 time at my height and weight is like a 90 pound 10 year-old running a 4.13

      Is DK’s 40 time under 4 seconds for a Tyreke Hill adjustment? lol

      • Palatypus

        Well, a Pascal is equal to one square Newton.

        • Blitzy the Clown

          Fig?

  30. Palatypus

    I think Jalyx Hunt is going to run faster than 4.64 on his second go. That first step looked awfully short.

  31. Blitzy the Clown

    Chop chop Robinson!

    1.54s 10 split!

  32. BrandoK

    Chop Robinson gotta be locked into the top 10

  33. Blitzy the Clown

    Didn’t realize how similar Verse and Anderson are

  34. Palatypus

    Darius Robinson running exactly what I expected after seeing his Senior Bowl metrics. Not fast. All power.

  35. Misfit

    Fiske’s movement skills remind me of watching JJ Watt’s combine. So fluid and athletic. Of course Watt ran a 4.21 SS and 6.88 3-cone but Fiske ran better, better 10yd. Not saying he’s Watt. He reminded me with his athletic fluidity in on-field drills.

  36. Blitzy the Clown

    My order of DTs after today

    Friske
    Murphy
    Orhorhoro
    Jenkins
    Sweat
    Wingo
    Carter

    Friske’s workout reminds me of Abe Lucas’s — clearly the best of the group

    • Blitzy the Clown

      *Fiske

  37. Blitzy the Clown

    Ole Miss DE Cedric Johnson looks good and moves well

    • Palatypus

      Is it me or are they doing this wave drill on the worst area of turf?

  38. Blitzy the Clown

    Chop Robinson moves differently. His legs and feet are so quick they’re almost a blur

  39. BrandoK

    Seems like the NFL network is barley talking about Chop Robinson and how well he tested and how he did the drill.

    • Rob Staton

      Sleeping on him like everyone else

  40. cha

    Jordan Schultz
    @Schultz_Report
    ·
    1m
    Sources to
    @BleacherReport
    : The #Seahawks have informed Geno Smith he will be on the roster in 2024 under his current contract.

    I’m told Smith has received commitment from Seattle’s front office.

    • ShowMeYourHawk

      “…under his current contract.”

      Was this ever disputed? I get his status on the team was in flux but once his roster bonus was paid as a bonus, wasn’t his salary set?

    • BrandoK

      Is this from Geno’s camp trying to say hey I’m still the #1 guy while Seattle say maybe not and we’ll see how this will play out.

      • Roy Batty

        Possibly it’s just the result of a very, very tepid response to Schneider mingling with other GM’s, realizing there’s no trade market for Geno.

        • Wilson502

          I just cant help but sense JS screwed up on assessing Geno’s trade market. I think most of us agreed there would be very little market for him, and only the Geno cultists valued him more than what he is.

    • cha

      My quick hit impression is JS dipped his toe in the trade waters and found it ice cold.

      They’re going forward with Geno (and maybe Lock) and if a QB falls to them they like, they’ll take him and Flynn-Tarvaris-Russ it.

      It says nothing about Geno starting. Just on the roster at his current number.

      • Wilson502

        Gee what a surprise, JS found out what we already knew on here, the Seahawks and the Geno cultists value him way more than the league does, color me surprised :eyeroll:. JS just needs to put up or shut up about the whole wanting to draft a QB. Hes drafted 2 in a decade and a half, Im tired of him “talking” about wanting to draft a QB, just effing do it then, now that youre the man in charge.

        • Big Mike

          JS just needs to put up or shut up about the whole wanting to draft a QB.

          100% agree. If you want to compete for a championship John, you’ve got to try to get the guy, even if it takes several attempts.

        • Commander Ga

          Schneider has a lot to prove. Seattle has had a poor decade of talent acquisition and I don’t think it is 100% on Pete Carroll.

      • BrandoK

        Hey Cha a question about Geno’s contract in 2025 is there an easy out of it like will there be dead money attached to it if cut or anything else?

        • cha

          $13.5m dead money as of right now. $25m savings if they cut him.

          $10m roster bonus deadline March 20.

      • Brodie

        My son bought a pack of football cards and pulled a Geno Smith – autographed card with game worn jersey that was 1/1 (only one).

        He was so excited, the Beckett said it was worth $500 and he’d only paid $5 for the pack! He told his friends and they were all pumped up and telling him how lucky he was.

        Then he took it to the card shop and tried to sell it. They said they just couldn’t offer him a fair price. He persisted and asked what COULD they offer. They just told him it was a cool card and any offer wouldn’t be worth it for him.

        Dejected, he got it certified and graded (which cost him more). Now that he’d dumped some extra money to make it more valuable, he took it back to the shop to see about an offer now. If not cash, surely they would offer store credit or work out a trade for other cards.

        Again they told him how lucky he was to have found such a gem and that they wish they had it, but when he tried to negotiate a deal, they just said they couldn’t do it. Finally he asked – what is the best you can offer me for this one-of-a-kind Geno? He was so embarrassed by whatever they said that he wouldn’t even tell me what it was.

        He just put on a brave face and said. I’m glad they didn’t buy my card, I’m keeping it and that’s that.

        • 805Hawk

          eBay might be the way to go for him. A Geno fanatic out there might pony up. Sorry kid.

          • Brodie

            No need 805. It was a metaphorical story that worked better in first person. Completely made up with John in the role of my ‘son’.

            • 805Hawk

              Haha! Right over my head. Good analogy when I look back at your post. 😂

        • Geoff u

          😂😂

    • Julian

      For me, perhaps less likely Drew Lock will be back in Seattle as a result? It’s maybe that that’s what’s happened, Drew Lock has told the team he’ll be playing elsewhere in 2024. The team will want a viable starter on the roster, so might as well be fair to Geno and settle the matter for him. Doesn’t mean they won’t draft a QB however.
      I’d like Tyler Huntley to come over from the Ravens as the back up?

      • 805Hawk

        If I was Lock, I’d get the hell out of Seattle. Very little chance you start and a good chance they draft another guy you’ll have to compete with. I’d go find somewhere that gave me a glimmer of hope. Lock is going to have to learn a new offense either way.

      • geoff u

        If he hasn’t been offered a fair shot at an open competition for the starting job, he’s absolutely gone.

  41. Donovan

    Consider me convinced: if can’t get QB at pick 16 and Chop Robinson is there, run to podium

    • Rob Staton

      Without a doubt

      • Palatypus

        Well, that simulcast of the 40 with him beating Anderson and Bosa should wake people up.

    • geoff u

      He won’t be. Too few Edges as it is. He’ll go top ten.

      • Julian

        I don’t know who it’ll be (how can anyone), but they’ll be a player at #16 who most people have as a Top 15 talent, as well as there’ll be one or two players who’ll get themselves into the Top 15 who people don’t expect to be there. Whether that Top 15 player who drops to #16 suits Seattle, we’ll just have to wait and see.

    • Sparky

      Would be plenty pleased with Chop, but would prefer Verse at this point. Seems like a great dude and a lot more well-rounded?

  42. BrandoK

    I miss the days when Mike Mayock was doing the NFL combine and we had a real analysis of how the players did during the workouts. Now the players that are only talked about now are just scripted segments ahead of times according to DJ’s big board.

    • Palatypus

      Yeah, they are talking too much and saying very little.

  43. hoggs41

    IMO the perfect weight for an ILb is 240 so I’m good with Colsons weight.

    • Rob Staton

      I didn’t say it was a problem

      I said it was lighter than the listed 245

  44. Palatypus

    Something tells me Braden Fiske is not going to be the fourth DT with a 3rd round grade on Rob’s horizontal board tomorrow.

    • Rob Staton

      Nope

  45. Merl 613

    No College expert here but Chop Robinson gives me a little bit Brian Burns Vibes, who I really liked when he came out of college. So I would love to take Chop at 16 since we need Quality. We have to find value with our later picks for the edges

  46. Palatypus

    Kris Jenkins putting on the charm.

  47. Blitzy the Clown

    Cedric Johnson is interesting

  48. BrandoK

    Is the NFL network not showing the 10 yard split for LB’s?

  49. GF

    I think Maason Smith is another winner today

    • Palatypus

      Agreed.

    • Rob Staton

      He’s just so upright though

      Even running drills today it’s like he’s on a mission to stick his chest out

      Might as well have the words ‘punch here’ written on his jersey

      • Palatypus

        Better than tattooed on his face.

      • GF

        I honestly didn’t expect him to have those numbers today, I think he would be available in the 3rd round, although I like Carter much more.

  50. JoeG

    Good for Geno. Never made sense that there was no trade value fo him so have no choice but to start him or keep him. If he’s not valuable than you would just move on. Makes no sense to hold a player that wasn’t valuable

    • samprassultanofswat

      Even if Geno Smith is on the roster. The Seahawks need to find their franchise QB.

      As far as I am concerned. If the Seahawks don’t find their franchise QB this off season. Then in my opinion it will be a wasted season.

      The Seahawks must find and develop their franchise QB for the future. Last year the Seahawks were an 9-8 team. And they were really not that good. They had 4 late come from behind victories. As far as I am concerned Pete Carroll was lucky to have a winning record in his last year as the head coach of the Seahawks.

    • Wilson502

      Then they should have cut him before Feb. 16th, this just proves that Geno had no value around the league and cutting him and taking the cap savings would have been “something” rather than hoping some team trades for him which looks like no team wanted to. I wish they would have cut him and taken the cap savings and now they r stuck with him.

  51. Chase Little

    I know it’s only Day 1, but increasingly feeling like there will be a very good player available at #16.

  52. samprassultanofswat

    “The #Seahawks have informed Geno Smith he will be on the roster in 2024 under his current contract.

    I’m told Smith has received commitment from Seattle’s front office.” Looks like NO ONE is interested in trading for Geno Smith.

    Just don’t understand why GMs would not want to trade for an aging soon to be 34 year Geno Smith.

    Rob keeps pointing that their was little or no interest in Geno Smith last year. When he was a free agent. So if there was no interest when he a free agent. Why would you trade for Geno if the previous year you could have acquired Geno without trading a draft pick?

    • geoff u

      I was told multiple teams offered two 1sts for Geno, and John laughed in their faces saying “Two?! He’s worth at least three!” So yeah, I expect three 1st rounders come draft day. You heard it here first, folks. Let the bidding war begin!

    • Wilson502

      Turns out wanting to cut him before Feb. 16th wasn’t so irrational after all. I always pushed back on the idea of “it’s better to trade him and get something than cut for nothing”. The flaw with this argument that many have used including Rob is that there has to be enough of a market to make this a viable argument. Turns out there was no market for the guy so assuming u could just trade him and ” get something” was nothing but hopium. And cutting him before Feb. 16th would have netted significant cap savings so it wouldn’t have been “nothing”. The only downside to doing this is it tells the league u are drafting a QB. The only upside to committing to Geno is you could somewhat have a smokescreen going into the draft.

      • Misfit

        Now maybe we extend him another two years at a very palatable price with an out after 1 year. Not saying we should but wouldn’t stun me if we did.

        • Wilson502

          This is what we told ourselves last year. This just kicks the can down the road, they just need to draft a damn QB and move on.

        • Rob Staton

          No 🤦‍♂️

      • Rob Staton

        But you don’t know what has actually happened here

        None of us do

        And we don’t know what’s going to happen in the future either

        They might be being non-committal because their intention was always to keep Geno as a draft hedge, which was a wise call, but then draft a QB and let them have a shot to win the job

        • Wilson502

          While we may not know with absolute certainty what happened, I think just reading the tea leaves as you say, it’s apparent that JS has massively overestimated and misjudged Genos trade value and market. I was skeptical from the beginning that they could get any compensation for Geno smith (many of the reasons you cite, regarding last yrs FA). I agree that being noncommittal on Geno could be a draft hedge, but I would have rather they moved on one way or another. Trading him for a mid round pick just seemed like hopium given the overall lack of interest around the league. We will see what happens in the draft, but JS needs to put up or shut up with regards to a QB and not just kick the can down the road.

          • Rob Staton

            I don’t think that though, I think it’s a confusing and intriguing situation with Geno and just assuming things have been cocked up seems a bit of a reach

  53. geoff u

    I’m overreacting to the underwear Olympics of course, but Chop Robinson may end up a top 5 pick.

    • Seattle Person

      I can’t really see it unless someone trades up.

    • Peter

      Three qbs, three wrs, a te, and a few tackles.

      I think he’s oddly positioned at #16.

      On one hand it’s not a great edge class. So bump him up.

      He had a very good combine so far. He was fast. Very fast. And he looks the part as it were.

      On the other hand ( where Rob and I might diverge though I think he’s definitely a high ish pick) his production in college is nowhere near the edge/lb’s that get picked high.

      For the comps I’ve seen: von miller, mack, burns, parsons, bosa, Anderson he’s pretty far away from them.

      • Peter

        If we are talking players as projections I’d almost consider tj watt. Who had a very good combine with chop being slightly faster but on field results watt was better as a year starter than chop over 2.5 years of playing time. And watt fell.

  54. Palatypus

    Steele Chambers had an interesting stat in the caption bar. Per PFF 0 touchdowns allowed in coverage. And he’s 6’1 and 220.

    Safety conversion?

  55. Palatypus

    I’ve got the combine on one television and a softball tournament at Mississippi State on ESPN+ on the other. My niece’s daughter, Sierra Sacco is their star lead-off hitter and they are about to mercy rule Southern Miss.

  56. Alex Potts

    https://jfosterfilm.shinyapps.io/Test/

    Passing along this excellent draft resource. He is updating live and there are combine numbers with percentile ranks for all catagories

  57. Anthony

    On Payton Wilson, he looks great in the drills! But my concern is that Tony Pauline had reported in his Combine watch list that “People at North Carolina State told me that while Wilson is a great player, he’s a medical nightmare.”

    Maybe he’ll be a nice find on day 3

    • Seattle Person

      Well, he has had 2 knee surgeries and 2 shoulder surgeries. If I’m a team like Chiefs — I’ll gladly take him in the 2nd or 3rd round. If you get him for 3-4 good seasons then it’s worth it.

      • Palatypus

        So, he’s Michael Penix Jr. on defense.

    • Palatypus

      Linebackers who are 6’4″ 230 lbs and run 4.43 do not grow on trees. He doesn’t get out of round two.

      • Misfit

        100% agreed. Unless there is some crazy undisclosed medical issue then he is a top 50 guy for sure.

  58. Ian Heathrow

    Boy oh boy has John Schneider flubbed this off-season, or what!

    I am fully convinced that Rob was correct in reading all of the clear signals and signs that John and Big Mac Mike were finished with Geno and planning on Lock and a rookie. Then John massively misjudged the market. Thinking he had a diamond asset in Old Man Geno, he guaranteed Geno’s bonuses. When in reality, he had an albatross contract for a replacement level player who nobody wants, and made it even less desirable!

    What a massive bumbling flub! I will say it once again. Maybe we were all wrong in blaming the poor roster construction on Pete all these years.

    We could have had a stud QBOTF along with Drew Lock. Now instead we will have Old Man Geno and some average bum back up like Austin Davis or somebody. Because Lock is for sure gone now that Geno has been promised his roster spot. Why would he stay where he can’t play outside of injury?? Surely Drew proved himself enough last season to warrant a shot at least a camp battle.

    This Geno roster bonus blunder flub is going to go down as one of the biggest flubs along with lighting our 2nd round pick on fire. Two unconscionable moves which have set back the Big Mac Era years already.

    • Commander Ga

      We might be looking for a GMOTF.

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