Time to mix things up a bit.
This mock includes one trade. The Rams move from #15 to #10, giving the New York Giants the #43 pick and a late round selection in the process.
Round one
#1 Tennessee — Laremy Tunsil (T, Ole Miss)
#2 Cleveland — Jaylen Ramsey (CB, Florida State)
#3 San Diego — Jared Goff (QB, California)
#4 Dallas — Myles Jack (LB, UCLA)
#5 Jacksonville — Joey Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
#6 Baltimore — DeForest Buckner (DE, Oregon)
#7 San Fran — Carson Wentz (QB, North Dakota State)
#8 Philadelphia — Ezekiel Elliott (RB, Ohio State)
#9 Tampa Bay — Vernon Hargreaves (CB, Florida)
#10 TRADE Los Angeles — Paxton Lynch (QB, Memphis)
#11 Chicago — Jack Conklin (T, Michigan State)
#12 New Orleans — Sheldon Rankins (DT, Louisville)
#13 Miami — Darron Lee (LB, Ohio State)
#14 Oakland — Eli Apple (CB, Ohio State)
#15 TRADE New York Giants — Ronnie Stanley (T, Notre Dame)
#16 Detroit — Reggie Ragland (LB, Alabama)
#17 Atlanta — Leonard Floyd (LB, Georgia)
#18 Indianapolis — Andrew Billings (DT, Baylor)
#19 Buffalo — Kevin Dodd (DE, Clemson)
#20 New York Jets — Mackensie Alexander (CB, Clemson)
#21 Washington — Jonathan Bullard (DE, Florida)
#22 Houston — Corey Coleman (WR, Baylor)
#23 Minnesota — Shaq Lawson (DE, Clemson)
#24 Cincinatti — Laquon Treadwell (WR, Ole Miss)
#25 Pittsburgh — Keanu Neal (S, Florida)
#26 Seattle — Germain Ifedi (T, Texas A&M)
#27 Green Bay — Jarran Reed (DT, Alabama)
#28 Kansas City — William Jackson III (CB, Houston)
#29 Arizona — Ryan Kelly (C, Alabama)
#30 Carolina — Taylor Decker (T, Ohio State)
#31 Denver — Derrick Henry (RB, Alabama)
Round two
#32 Cleveland — Josh Doctson (WR, TCU)
#33 Tennessee — Cody Whitehair (G, Kansas State)
#34 Dallas — Vonn Bell (S, Ohio State)
#35 San Diego — Jason Spriggs (T, Indiana)
#36 Baltimore — Shon Coleman (T, Auburn)
#37 San Francisco — Will Fuller (WR, Notre Dame)
#38 Miami — Emmanuel Ogbah (DE, Oklahoma State)
#39 Jacksonville — Xavien Howard (CB, Baylor)
#40 New York Giants — A’Shawn Robinson (DT, Alabama)
#41 Chicago — Chris Jones (DT, Mississippi State)
#42 Tampa Bay — Noah Spence (DE, Eastern Kentucy)
#43 TRADE New York Giants — Sterling Shepard (WR, Oklahoma)
#44 Oakland — Karl Joseph (S, West Virginia)
#45 Los Angeles — Robert Nkemdiche (DT, Ole Miss)
#46 Detroit — Le’Raven Clark (T, Texas Tech)
#47 New Orleans —Vernon Butler (DT, Louisiana Tech)
#48 Indianapolis — Nick Martin (C, Notre Dame)
#49 Buffalo — Michael Thomas (WR, Ohio State)
#50 Atlanta — Kenny Clark (DT, UCLA)
#51 New York Jets — Travis Feeney (LB, Washington)
#52 Houston — Joshua Garnett (G, Stanford)
#53 Washington — Joshua Perry (LB, Ohio State)
#54 Minnesota — Braxton Miller (WR, Ohio State)
#55 Cincinnati — Willie Henry (DT, Michigan)
#56 Seattle — Kyler Fackrell (LB, Utah State)
#57 Green Bay — Tyler Boyd (WR, Pittsburgh)
#58 Pittsburgh — Austin Johnson (DT, Penn State)
#59 Kansas City — Kamalei Correa (DE, Boise State)
#60 New England — Devontae Booker (RB, Utah)
#61 New England — Jihad Ward (DE, Illinois)
#62 Denver — Hassan Ridgeway (DT, Texas)
#63 Carolina — Kenneth Dixon (RB, Louisiana Tech)
Let’s break the analysis down into 10-pick brackets:
#1 Tennessee — Laremy Tunsil (T, Ole Miss)
#2 Cleveland — Jaylen Ramsey (CB, Florida State)
#3 San Diego — Jared Goff (QB, California)
#4 Dallas — Myles Jack (LB, UCLA)
#5 Jacksonville — Joey Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
#6 Baltimore — DeForest Buckner (DE, Oregon)
#7 San Fran — Carson Wentz (QB, North Dakota State)
#8 Philadelphia — Ezekiel Elliott (RB, Ohio State)
#9 Tampa Bay — Vernon Hargreaves (CB, Florida)
#10 TRADE Los Angeles — Paxton Lynch (QB, Memphis)
RGIII provides the Browns with a holding starter if they want to draft a quarterback at #2. But what if they decide there isn’t a definite franchise quarterback in this draft? For a team that is probably 2-3 years away from realistically competing, collecting talent could be the order of the day. Hue Jackson will believe he can turn Griffin III into a viable starter for now and that could influence their decision here.
If they’re going to try and train a starter for the longer haul — perhaps they consider Cardale Jones at the top of round three?
It’s high time someone in the league took a page out of Green Bay’s book. Aaron Rodgers clearly benefitted from a spell sitting behind Brett Favre. Philip Rivers is 35 this year so planning for the next era at quarterback would be a smart move by the Chargers. They can compete with their existing quarterback while planning ahead.
In 2013 the Rams gave up essentially a second and seventh round pick to move from #16 to #8 for Tavon Austin. With two second round picks they might make a similar move here to secure a long term answer at quarterback. Chicago and New Orleans could be planning for the future at QB and might be surprise suitors for Paxton Lynch.
#11 Chicago — Jack Conklin (T, Michigan State)
#12 New Orleans — Sheldon Rankins (DT, Louisville)
#13 Miami — Darron Lee (LB, Ohio State)
#14 Oakland — Eli Apple (CB, Ohio State)
#15 TRADE New York Giants — Ronnie Stanley (T, Notre Dame)
#16 Detroit — Reggie Ragland (LB, Alabama)
#17 Atlanta — Leonard Floyd (LB, Georgia)
#18 Indianapolis — Andrew Billings (DT, Baylor)
#19 Buffalo — Kevin Dodd (DE, Clemson)
#20 New York Jets — Mackensie Alexander (CB, Clemson)
No big shocks here. Conklin deserves to go this early as a legitimate top-15 prospect in the draft. He tested better than expected at the combine, he’s a self-made man and, for want of a better phrase, he plays with massive stones.
We’ve talked for months about the possibility that Ronnie Stanley might fall a bit. His reputation is a little bit bizarre. It’s hard to remove the memory of Stanley tackling Shaq Lawson from behind after a horrific attempt to block him. His three cone and short shuttle were horrendous at the combine.
#21 Washington — Jonathan Bullard (DE, Florida)
#22 Houston — Corey Coleman (WR, Baylor)
#23 Minnesota — Shaq Lawson (DE, Clemson)
#24 Cincinatti — Laquon Treadwell (WR, Ole Miss)
#25 Pittsburgh — Keanu Neal (S, Florida)
#26 Seattle — Germain Ifedi (T, Texas A&M)
#27 Green Bay — Jarran Reed (DT, Alabama)
#28 Kansas City — William Jackson III (CB, Houston)
#29 Arizona — Ryan Kelly (C, Alabama)
#30 Carolina — Taylor Decker (T, Ohio State)
#31 Denver — Derrick Henry (RB, Alabama)
We know how Scot McCloughan builds his teams and Washington will soon start to resemble the Seahawks minus Russell Wilson. I can see McCloughan being really interested in Jonathan Bullard and Keanu Neal.
Neal has been invited to the draft — another indicator that he’ll go a lot earlier than most of the media are projecting. He’s a top-25 talent. Both Bullard and Neal are athletic, high character, intense football players. They want to be great — listen to their interviews. You can build around guys like this.
The Seahawks have a choice of either Germain Ifedi or Cody Whitehair. I stuck with Ifedi for now purely due to his freakish size. If you want to swap these guys around and put Whitehair at #26 — feel free. Both players would project to start at left guard and the Seahawks have favoured size in that role previously which is why I stuck with Ifedi. Whitehair is an intriguing alternative though, as we discussed on Sunday.
With Bullard and Sheldon Rankins off the board — it looks like a pretty easy decision for the Seahawks to go O-line at #26 in this scenario. Had either player been available I would’ve been extremely willing to project them to Seattle.
#32 Cleveland — Josh Doctson (WR, TCU)
#33 Tennessee — Cody Whitehair (G, Kansas State)
#34 Dallas — Vonn Bell (S, Ohio State)
#35 San Diego — Jason Spriggs (T, Indiana)
#36 Baltimore — Shon Coleman (T, Auburn)
#37 San Francisco — Will Fuller (WR, Notre Dame)
#38 Miami — Emmanuel Ogbah (DE, Oklahoma State)
#39 Jacksonville — Xavien Howard (CB, Baylor)
#40 New York Giants — A’Shawn Robinson (DT, Alabama)
#41 Chicago — Chris Jones (DT, Mississippi State)
The Browns need a weapon at receiver with Josh Gordon’s career still in limbo. Doctson would provide a big catching radius and a reliable pair of hands. He’s certainly not A.J. Green but he could at least provide a similar safety net for RGIII and Hue Jackson.
If the Titans are going to commit to taking another offensive tackle at #1 — they might as well add the best guard in the draft too and go the whole hog. With Whitehair, Tunsil and Taylor Lewan they’d be challenging the Dallas Cowboys for pure O-line talent.
Jason Spriggs tested well at the combine but so did Jake Fisher a year ago. Spriggs isn’t a particularly fierce run blocker and he gets beat inside way too much for a guy with his length. He might last a bit longer than people expect.
Speaking of players who might fall — keep an eye on A’Shawn Robinson. He carries his weight well and looks the part of a solid NFL defensive lineman. On tape he just doesn’t make enough plays. Someone might buy into his frame, attitude and purported upside in round one. He could also drop into the 30’s.
#42 Tampa Bay — Noah Spence (DE, Eastern Kentucy)
#43 TRADE New York Giants — Sterling Shepard (WR, Oklahoma)
#44 Oakland — Karl Joseph (S, West Virginia)
#45 Los Angeles — Robert Nkemdiche (DT, Ole Miss)
#46 Detroit — Le’Raven Clark (T, Texas Tech)
#47 New Orleans —Vernon Butler (DT, Louisiana Tech)
#48 Indianapolis — Nick Martin (C, Notre Dame)
#49 Buffalo — Michael Thomas (WR, Ohio State)
#50 Atlanta — Kenny Clark (DT, UCLA)
#51 New York Jets — Travis Feeney (LB, Washington)
Noah Spence didn’t test as well as expected at the combine. As a smaller one-dimensional speed-rusher without elite quickness — how do you justify putting him in round one? A drop into round two is very possible.
Robert Nkemdiche has issues he needs to sort out before starting a career in pro football. We’re not talking about a one-off, isolated ‘college kids’ incident here. We’re talking about a back-catalogue of problems involving both Robert and his brother Denzel. Drugs, violence. He’s an even more serious case than Randy Gregory who dropped into round two last year. If anyone is going to take a chance, Jeff Fisher is probably the guy who will.
Travis Feeney’s shoulder injuries are concerning but players with his combination of speed, athleticism, production and versatility are snapped up quickly in the NFL. He is an ideal fit for the Jets — Todd Bowles likes to utilise a roaming linebacker/safety hybrid who can rush. Without the shoulder issues he could’ve risen like Deone Bucannon.
#52 Houston — Joshua Garnett (G, Stanford)
#53 Washington — Joshua Perry (LB, Ohio State)
#54 Minnesota — Braxton Miller (WR, Ohio State)
#55 Cincinnati — Willie Henry (DT, Michigan)
#56 Seattle — Kyler Fackrell (LB, Utah State)
#57 Green Bay — Tyler Boyd (WR, Pittsburgh)
#58 Pittsburgh — Austin Johnson (DT, Penn State)
#59 Kansas City — Kamalei Correa (DE, Boise State)
#60 New England — Devontae Booker (RB, Utah)
#61 New England — Jihad Ward (DE, Illinois)
#62 Denver — Hassan Ridgeway (DT, Texas)
#63 Carolina — Kenneth Dixon (RB, Louisiana Tech)
Continuing with Washington’s theme of tough, athletic football players — Joshua Perry is an ideal fit. They use a 3-4 scheme and he can slot into the middle linebacker spot, make plays and lead that defense.
With several possible EDGE and DT prospects off the board before Seattle’s pick in round two — they instead opt for a rush-linebacker with great flexibility. Fackrell can line up at linebacker similar to Bruce Irvin and he can put his hand in the ground and attack the edge. They might prefer to add a DE-DT instead who can play base and nickel in the D-line — but they can’t fight the board here. Fackrell is a high-character splash-play specialist. He lives in the backfield and impacts the quarterback. He’s athletic and explosive. The Seahawks recently met with Shea McClellin before he signed with the Patriots. Fackrell would play a similar role in Seattle. He’s a playmaker with the character that fits this team. He’s underrated.
This is likely the range where we start to see some running backs coming off the board. Tyler Boyd just screams Green Bay — and we know they like to add receivers in round two. Austin Johnson’s all-action style and ability to play nose tackle, three-technique and D-end makes him an attractive second round option.
Whether they go O-line-D-line or vice versa with their first two picks, the Seahawks would have an opportunity to add a running back and another O-liner in round three. San Jose State’s Tyler Ervin continues to look like an attractive proposition and Darrell Bevell met with him during his pro-day. Joe Haeg, Connor McGovern, Evan Boehm and Joe Dahl are possible mid-round O-line targets. The defensive tackle depth is likely to extend into round four and beyond — it’s a deep class.
Considerations in rounds 1-2 (likely options only)
#26 — Jonathan Bullard, Germain Ifedi, Cody Whitehair, Le’Raven Clark, Ryan Kelly
#56 — Kyler Fackrell, Connor McGovern, Joe Haeg, Bronson Kaufusi, Kenny Clark
Hey Rob! Great write up. Slight copy edit (I hate to be that guy), but i think you meant Keanu Neal and not Keanu Reeves.
Hahaha!
You knew it was going to happen sooner or later….
And he was invited to the Draft, not the Combine (well, he was invited to the Combine but I think you mean the Draft as indicative of him going in R1).
Whoa.
I know Kung Fu.
just say “the matrix guy” and we’ll know who you’re talking about.
Wyld Stallions!!
Would love me some Fackrell!
That was some pretty good tape, got burned on that TD, but man he’s all over the place. Very effective in a lot of things. I see why you like him Bobby. I’d be all for him being a Hawk.
Any thoughts on Miles Killebrew? I remember you were high on him before the combine.
Great guy, lot of upside and potential.
As always, nice mock, Rob.
Hopefully on the blog we err a bit on the side of projecting players we think the Hawks will like higher than they will actually go. So maybe some great player falls to us. If not, this sounds like a solid plan.
It kinda looks like that’s what he did here, but I still like the picks.
Nice job. I havent paid enough attention to mocks and college this year to have much of an opinion on how things might shake out that far down, but I always play armchair GM anyway!
You present some pretty solid logic. We’ll see how it shakes out–cant wait!
Interesting you have Decker slipping to 30. And Devantae Booker as the 3rd RB taken.
Good call on Robinson sliding into R2.
It is going to be very interesting to see where both Kyler Fackrel and Bronson Kaufusi go in this draft.
I agree.
Interesting…
Peter Schragerhad mocked Treadwell at 22 yesterday, before his 40 time at his pro day was disappointing. Not that I’m advocating this, but they’ve tried to find that big receiver a number of different times, and I can’t help but wonder if he’d be a consideration for them if he got that close (again, not saying I want such a thing…it just makes me wonder).
Everyone knew his 40-time wasn’t going to be great. What he ran yesterday was expected. He’s going to be good.
I wouldnt even mind treadwell in the first. He’s a straight baller
Too many other needs Lewis — and he’s not sudden or athletic enough really to think he’d be a Seahawks R1 pick.
I don’t disagree. Feels like a luxury pick at a time where we have too many pressing needs. I wonder if it might not have been a consideration had Akers not resigned.
Kearse. Silly autocorrect.
Could North Carolina guard Landon Turner be a third round consideration for the seahawks?
Worst SPARQ score outta all the O-lineman tested so far.
That would kind of baffling honestly.
They’ve not taken a pure guard since Moffitt, plus Turner didn’t test well. Not agile, not explosive. I think it’s very unlikely.
Wouldn’t dislike this draft, but if Hawks are at 26 with Ifedi, Decker, Spriggs, Coleman, and Clark all available, I woudln’t mind trading down 10 picks so we could trade up 14 picks in the 2nd round.
This would net us: Coleman (who I’m indifferent with Ifedi with) and Vernon Butler/Nick Martin.
Wow, Noah Spence that far down? Thought he was top 20 for sure.
I agree with trading down if the draft really falls like Rob’s projection. Ideally, you’d wind up with either Coleman, Ifedi, or Kelly. Worst case you get Spriggs. Meanwhile you get more ammo, either to trade up or stock up on mid round talent.
SIMPLIFY
The Hawks only have ONE first rounder (Earl Thomas III)
IF the draft goes as Rob has predicted, the Seahawky move would be to move down and accumulate more picks.
SIMPLIFY AGAIN
The offense will forever get a healthy dose of power running. It sets the tone, opens up play action, and takes the pressure off Russell Wilson.
But, Russ is now the focal point of the offense. Teams will get creative coming after and (trying to) containing #3. We NEED an offensive line that can handle it. If you want to improve, you MUST invest your draft capital into offensive line talent.
I tend to drool over pass rushers, cover corners, athletic LBs, big and fast WRs, and productive RBs. But my gut is screaming to draft OL early and often.
I feel like there’s too much defensive talent in this draft to burn an early pick on OL.
I know the OL isn’t good, and maybe I’m reading the tea leaves all wrong, but adding a second tier OL to the meeting room and bench isn’t going to make them any better really. The fact that they added a couple of second tier starters should tell us all we need to know on where they intend to spend their currency.
Rob: The more I read about Fackrell the more I see a Luke Kuechly type player. Fackrell is a play maker. Fackrell always seems to be in the RIGHT place at the RIGHT time. Drafting Fackrell would kill to birds with one stone. Fackrell can play linebacker. From what I read Fackrell is very good in pass coverage. Also Fackrell can rush the passer. Fackrell would take over Bruce Irvin’s position. Highly intelligent.
You can go to war with a guy like Kyler Fackrell. All business, makes plays. Just impacts so many snaps. Finds a way to leave his mark on a game. Zero character issues. Stud.
I am completely on board with the Fackrell pick. Pure disruptive force on that tape. I know he got burned in coverage once for a TD but it looked like he panicked when he saw that he was a step behind his man and exacerbated the situation by making the desperation recovery attempt. Otherwise I thought he looked very sound when he dropped into coverage, especially playing underneath zone where he looked to have a good awareness of traffic around him.
Agree completely with RWIII about Fackrell having the knack of turning up at the right place and right time – that comes purely down to making effort plays which is as Seahawky as you can get . Feels like it would be a huge loss to leave the draft without him.
Lmao i was so down on Kuechly when he was coming out. I thought he lacked the strength to shed at the next level.
Boy was i off
Not sure I get the comp to Kuechly who was a consensus top 10 pick coming out and an off the chart athlete. Keuchly had a SPARQ of 141.8 one of the highest recorded for an LB.
40 yd 4.58
10yd split 1.56
Vertical 38.0″
Broad 10.25 ft
3 Cone 6.92
Short Shuttle. 4.12
Fackrell is not Luke Kuechly but very few are. He is arguably the best LB in the league.
I like Fackrell as well but I’m not sure I would want him over a rush lineman. Seems like they might be OK with the LB’s they have since they’ll only be on the field for half the snaps or less.
How far does adolphus washington fall? He could be a third round option if he slips due to a poor combine…
Possibly — but he tested so poorly it would go against what the Seahawks have gone for.
Is there any point where the Hawks throw out combine numbers or more heavily weight other things? Michael Bennett is not a very SPARQ-y player I believe. Neither is Jordan Hill I think. Bennett was acquired via trade, but Jordan Hill was a 3rd round pick.
Bennett was a FA signing but he’d already proved himself in the league so it’s a bit different. He did actually run a 1.62 split before the 2009 draft which is very good.
Hill on tape was a terrific pass rusher. Real intense. For that reason I think Austin Johnson could be in play. But also worth noting Hill was a third rounder. Early in the draft they tend to value measurables + production + grit.
An OL in the first round AGAIN???? This blog is soooooooooo predictable!!! You know that Seattle is going to surprise us, right, they do that EVERY year, mm-hm mm-hm.
Scraps: So in your opinion who should the Hawks take in the first round?
I don’t feel the need to force scenarios in my mocks because we go through so many different possibilities every day.
I noted in the piece I would’ve happily had Jonathan Bullard at #26 if available. I even listed considerations in R1 and R2 at the end of the piece.
The Seahawks don’t surprise us with the positions they take. They surprise us with the players they take at those positions of need. There’s absolutely no need to move off OL and DL in these mocks.
LeRaven Clark is about as wild a pick as we can probably expect in the first.
I was joking…. I thought my “mm-hm” at the end would be a giveaway.
You are always sensible.
Rob: Couldn’t agree more. I ALWAYS have felt that games are won/lost in the trenches.
I mean. It’s a predicition?
“#10 TRADE Los Angeles — Paxton Lynch (QB, Memphis)”
Sarcastic cha: wait, the Rams aren’t taking a DL in the first round???
“#45 Los Angeles — Robert Nkemdiche (DT, Ole Miss)”
Oh! There we go then. LOL
Lol hey ifedi dont care
We don’t want the Rams to get a QB. If we can keep them crappy, and the 49ers crappy and let the Cardinals get old we could see a Patriots type run. Hopefully
Hope they get Goff
Goff is the best QB in this class. Dude can spin it.
Stands in there under duress, his passes look the same every time, can thread the needle over the middle, has 4-5 guys that have gotten 45-50 receptions, if he makes a mistake it doesn’t rattle him.
He has good velocity underneath, but really awful deep accuracy. He steps up to avoid pressure, but loses all accuracy. Decently accurate in a clean pocket.
I disagree. I think he can spray it all over the field.
Bryce Petty had one of the best looking deep arms last year and that did nothing for him. That’s something tht can be improved with reps.
Goff has an NFL like awareness to find the best matchup and get all his guys involved.
Wasnt Goff a four year starter? That sounds like reps.
Not to be short winded. Long day.
I do like Goff’s arm strength and plus mobility. He honestly reminds me of a poor man’s aaron rodgers despite the obvious cal connection.
I just dont believe ‘golden boy’ has the same guts if im being honest.
Ill definitely revisit his last season cuz i respect ur eye
Petty was put on the shelf, to learn the NFL game. They were mentoring him, to make him a much better pro player, than just tossing him to the wolves.
Petty, Kellen Moore, Case Keenum and Brandon Doughty this year…underrated QB who should have good careers.
I think Goff is a bust. Saw him a few times in person and wasn’t impressed: accurate, but slow reads and delivery, tends to telegraph passes. Great Pac-12 QB, but won’t be able to handle speed of NFL.
That’s my hot take and I’m probably wrong.
Re: “keep them crappy”
I take just the opposite view. Steel sharpens steel. Coming out of the roughest division makes the Hawks a rougher team. Plus, a fair number of our opponents must play our division as well. Thus winning a tough division improves our chances at first seed.
I agree!
I would hate to see the rams get a good qb I think Jeff fisher tends to have great players regress
Rob in your opinion, at this point, where are the talent levels in this draft?
To my untrained eye, it looks like picks 1-20 or so are a tier, but then 21-60ish is the other tier.
I think there’s a group of about 14. Then a second tier which is about 10. Then probably another tier with another 10-15 of a similar level.
But the depth relatively speaking is decent into round three. Then it drops off substantially and you’re picking guys that fit your team.
Thanks. So 26 would be right on the end of tier 2 and the start of tier 3. Interesting. That might support a trade down scenario if the 2-3 guys the Hawks want get taken earlier.
Or a trade up for even better defensive players.
The Rams trying to acquire a potential franchise QB would run the risk of messing with Jeff Fisher’s coaching philosophy, as explained by this handy chart:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSQqlwPUYAAc4od.png
Hahaha
Funny but I would look at the Rams as a joke at all if they come away with a draft like that. I have thought the last couple years they would challenge for the NFC West. They always seem so close but just can’t put it together.
If Jeff Fisher wants to get into the Paxton Lynch business, I am all for it! The guy screams bust. He’d be better off taking Connor Cook if he HAS to take a QB other than Wentz or Goff.
Nice one Rob. Always tricky separating what we might want from what PCJS will want. Think you do as good a job as anyone at reading what they’re about.
If Jaylon Smith is still sitting there at 56, you’d have to think about it wouldn’t you?
On Smith — I think he lasts well into day three.
We’ve touched, in part, on Keanu Neal as a potential deathbacker type.
What about the possibility of Su’a Cravens? A California kid, with tons of pedigree – NFL bloodlines and the HS National DPOY.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/03/29/nfl-draft-big-board-prospects-william-jackson-sua-cravens
Doug Farrar has him as his 21st ranked player in the draft.
I think Cravens is pretty average to be honest.
What about Karl Joseph, Rob?
Good player. Had him at #44 to Oakland.
Sorry mate, I meant in reference to Darnell’s query about Craven in relation to your original postulation about Neal as a potential Deathbacker. I was decidedly vague in my question though!
Is Joseph a good fit for the Deathbacker role?
Prefer him at FS.
I like Joseph at FS as well, but probably a touch slow for what we really crave there.
Have you checked tape on So. Miss. Kalan Reed, yet? He a burner with good pursuit and man coverage film.
Huge fan of Arizona’s Wil Parks. Is also a slot CB. Highly intelligent/articulate, big time personality bordering on ‘cocky.’
Just a versatile, explosive, hard hitting, character. Great technique too.
Grew up in North Philly, former boxer, says he’d step in the ring with $ Mayweather and fight him.
I’ll check him out!
How have Taylor Decker and Shon Coleman become dismissed options? How are they worse than Ifedi?
With this board, I would go Kelly/Whitehair rd. 1 and McGovern/Haeg rd. 2, and the interior o-line at C and G is mostly done.
I remain neutral on Ifedi. I think Fackrell is high effort, but not special. Overrated, not underrated.
Neither are dismissed options.
It’s not about being ‘worse’ than Ifedi. It’s about ideals and what might happen. Ifedi is almost perfectly what they’re attracted to at LG and Cody Whitehair has the agility they also seem to be enamoured with. Decker is a pure tackle in Seattle due to his height and Coleman is injured. They’re trying to get healthier and Coleman has to prove he’s healthy and actually test before the draft.
I don’t understand how Fackrell can be overrated given barely anyone talks about him. As for high effort and not special — I’ll answer with a 10-1 broad jump and a 34.5 inch vertical. Darron Lee had a 35.5 inch vertical. Fackrell also had a 1.62 split. I know you like Calhoun — he had a 1.85 and a 1.77 split.
I don’t necessarily like Calhoun. He flashes but not consistent. He is projected pretty high according to many, and that is why I occasionally have to bring him up.
Fackrell is extremely popular in here. I haven’t been excited about what I have seen on his tape. I am more concerned with tape than workouts. He doesn’t show great pass rushing ability, from what I see. A motor guy. to me, a rd. 4-5, not a rd. 2.
He ran a 1.62 split. He has speed.
Don’t understand how anyone can watch the video in this post and say he doesn’t show ability to rush the passer.
Projecting him in rounds 4-5 is way over the top.
Daniel Jeremiah says he’s the #45 overall player in the class http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000641197/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2016-nfl-draft
Tony Pauline says round two http://www.draftinsider.net/rankings/2016/OLB
Nothing wrong with high effort players in you ask me. Fackrell is no slouch in the athletic department based on what he did in the combine, though he didn’t do any of the agility drills which I would like to see.
My bigger question with Fackrell is what is his role? Is he a DE? A LB? I’m not sure you’re looking at a SAM with Fackrell. Doesn’t look like an edge setter to me and I think he would do best in a system where he can stay off of blocks and flow to the football.
So that leaves DE. At 245 lbs Fackrell will have to rely on speed, but to me he’s just not explosive enough. I would actually prefer a Kaufusi or Tapper for that role, both of those guys are just a hair slower than Fackrell but have 30-40 lbs on him. They could also slide inside on passing downs.
Fackrell is a nice player but as a system fit, I remain skeptical. For me he is a 3-4 OLB
He’s a chess piece impact player. SAM/DE. Can line up inside at LB. Just an all round playmaker.
Fackrell’s role would be similar to Bruce Irvin.
Less of a pass rusher.
More of a pass rusher, imo.
Steele, I have to admit that (besides Rob of course) if anyone on this board is must-read, it’s you. I admire your enthusiasm!
Would be interesting to get fackrell. Looks like he can put on some bulk on his frame or stay lean like kj. I was surprised how early you had Shepard going. That’s a huge rise.
Rob: Brock Huard was talking about Jason Springs today. Brock Huard likes Springs as a Left Tackle.
Really like Spriggs myself.
Huard was all over locket last year,was his favorite fit for Hawks
Yeah he’s a left or right tackle. Problem for SEA — and Brock touched on this — is he’s finesse. Not a great run blocker. For me he also gets beat inside way too much.
Yeah, that’s definetly the issue.
But, he does have the athletic profile they like in a LT.
I think they see Gilliam at the guy at LT.
Not to be overly optimistic, but i really like Sowell’s chances to keep Gilliam on the right.
He always struck me as very athletic and aggressive whenever we played Arizona. Four year starter at ole miss.
From recent interviews he sounds Hungry.
Sounds like a typical Seahawks free agency steal waiting to happen.
Rob: I have not seen much film on Spriggs. Only what I have read.
I’m still hoping for Whitehair and/or McGovern.
Hypothetical: Based on the current roster/Madden, Webb is best suited for LG.
So he could beat Britt while McGovern and Lewis battle, and Ifedi/Clark beat out Webb at RT.
I’ll take the much stronger Westerman over both. He’s got great feet to go with the great strength and his arms & athleticism meet the minimum requirements easy.
Also with Spriggs he’s a tackle only. Guys like Idefi and Coleman could come in and immediately start at G – but with the upside to eventually play tackle.
Spriggs can play G just as well as any other OT. Besides, if he’s a better Tackle than Guard, put him at RT and Webb can play G. Pick the better player, don’t overthink it.
I like Kyler Fackrell. Is he too slow though? Not sure he’ll turn into much of a pass rusher. Compares favorably to KJ Wright — almost seems like a clone.
K.J. Wright is an outlier. He tested below average in every athletic test save for Broad Jump. He is above average in height/weight and has freakish arms (34 7/8″). Every other LB Seattle has targeted is an above average athete.
The difference between Kyler Fackrell’s ten yard split and Emmanuel Ogbah’s is 0.03 seconds.
Ogbah is also 30 lb’s heavier and I’m not convinced he’ll be a good pass rusher (albeit for different reasons, those you’ve outlined in previous articles). I like a lot of the things Fackrell does, but will he be able to rush the passer? I’m not so certain, and if that’s what we’re looking for with this pick I think we need to look elsewhere. And is there an elsewhere?
They gave KJ a 4-year deal worth $27 million. If they could get a clone like that dirt cheap for four years, I’d think they’d do cartwheels. WILL and SAM would be stacked/set. Yes, please.
As Rob has said, they’d move Fackrell around. Pete has quite a history with taking versatile OLBs and playing them to their strengths. I salivate at the thought of Fackrell on the Seahawks. I’ve watched the only two games I can see (USC from ’13 and CSU from ’15) a bunch of times and I think he’s so good/versatile. He’d be great, imo. I really hope we can come out of the draft with at least one of: Bullard, Fackrell, Hargrave. I think either of those three guys would help significantly in ’16.
After a trade back the hawks shock us all and draft TE Hunter Henry from Arkansas, in line blocker who can catch and block knowing they will not be able to keep Luke much longer. Not what I would do, just a gut feel.
Also heard an interview with new T Sowell, he at least sounded like a baller, interviewed real well.
With our first pick? No, I would not like that at all. You could convince me if he fell to the 3rd though.
From Hunter Henry’s pro day, if anyone’s wondering:
21 reps on bench
4.68 forty (1.60 split),
Vert 31.5: broad: 9’5″
20-yard shuttle, 4.41
3-cone: 7.16
Personally, I’d rather try and get Tyler Higbee in the 4th. Not much else for tight ends though.
I really like Higbee. He reminds me so much of Travis Kelce (Chiefs TE).
Cal TE Stephen Anderson?
Nick Vannett and Austin Hooper would both be solid all around TEs who are good blockers and have great hands. Either guy would be a nice compliment to Graham and Willson. If they were a 3rd or 4th round pick I think they would provide good value.
Count me in for Vannett. Really good all-around TE.
Yep, I think Vannett would be a great pick in the 4th. If he lasts that long.
Not in the first trade back to late 2nd and pick up more picks. Like i said not endorsing it, just a funny hunch i had.
Rob I love almost all your picks and trust your evaluations but Fackrell in the 2nd round is a pick I hope we don’t make. I think there is a reason he did not do the agility drills in the combine. He looks really stiff in the hips to me as highlighted at the 2.50 min mark on the tape when he gets beat for the TD. I see him as a 3-4 lb not an Edge / Leo prospect. He had only 5 sacks playing in the Mountain West which seems like low production for an edge rush prospect out of that conference.
He has great size, length and seems to be very instinctual. Also seems to play with lots of passion and is a leader on the field.
I guess what I am saying is I like him as an 3-4 LB prospect just not as an Edge rush prospect for the Hawks.
Fackrell looks like a perfect OLB for the Steelers in their 3-4 to me.
I do agree he exhibits some stiffness in the hips, however i contend he was actually undercutting a sluggo route that the receiver choked off of.
Fackrell had done his homework recognized the pattern and wouldve been in position to make the play if not for a QB staring down a very intelligent play by a very underrated player in rashad higgins.
That TD was a mismatch i would expect the offense to win every time.
If im the coach i want fackrell on the line rushing every down. He’s strong as hell. And that colorado state ol aint nun to sniff at
My biggest problem with fackrell is he lacks a lot of pass rushing moves. Weak inside move. No long arm. Strong but sterile bull rush. Doesnt threaten the spin
It’s either bull rush or speed move with a strong rip
Nevermind found more tape. He’s fine.
Yeah he a hawk
“I think there is a reason he did not do the agility drills in the combine.” The reason is because his hamstring tightened up. Not because he was scared to.
If you watch his tape, the reason he only had five sacks is because he didn’t rush very often in comparison to the top pass rushers. How is a guy going to put up 10+ sacks if he’s dropping back into zone? And why he wasn’t used to go forward more is beyond me. Carroll will use him all over and he’d make an impact. Yes, please.
Personally, I see his worst attribute dropping into zone coverage, which boggles my mind they would have him do it as much as they did. However, sealing the edge as a SAM is good/great. Flying to the QB is great. Attacking and making plays = great.
I am in the minority, but I’d like to see him more as a Leo but I know this won’t happen. He’s too versatile.
Trevor, I agree with you on Fackrell. That is also what I see. Not a great pass rusher. Active, hustle, a role type of player if gotten cheap, but not worth a high pick.
Not a huge Fackrell fan either, but there are some things I like about him.
Definetly get why he does or would appeal.
Good stuff Rob, though I gotta say I’m not a fan of Fackrell in the top 2 rounds. He looks slow and I really am not a huge fan of the fact that he will be 25 years old during the season.
I will totally admit to saying that “maybe I just don’t see it with this guy,” but other folks do. For me, it’d be tough to pass on Kenneth Dixon in this scenario.
Appreciate the hard work!
He’s not Cliff Avril or Bruce Irvin fast, but he moves well for a guy his size. KJ, Wagner, and Fackrell could be the best 4-3 LB group by the end of the season.
Fackrell just kind of falls into a sort of no mans land for me right now. Not worth a first round pick, probably won’t be there when we pick in the third, and I’m content enough with Mike Morgan as our base SAM I’d rather use our second rounder on something else. I think some of it might come to if the team liked what they saw Marsh and Pinkins at SAM in training camp last year.
Rashad Higgins underrated.
Gonna be a lot of nice skill options in rd 3 and 4
Rob, once a gain you have floated laraven Clark’s name out there. I understand why.You have wrote at length about all of his measurable’s and how he is the ideal left tackle just very very raw. However, I have heard little to next to nothing about his immeasurable. I have not heard anyone mention words like fierce, tough, competitive, or Grit- the things we think of when we talk about the Seahawks. If the guy is a raw project player, then we typically think that his positive attitude and his toughness to be a big speaking point for him, but I haven’t heard anything like that. Further he got simply abused at the shrine game. Is he more than just a big sloth with tons of potential or does he have the GRIT factor? As you have pointed out Gary Giliam also has all the positive attributes you would want yet he fits the grit model. I think this Clark at LT talk is for not. The prospect we need to develop is already on the team. Would be better to look strictly for a guy to play left guard or right tackle.
@P_Woo: Charles Tapper says on @SiriusXMNFL that the two best OTs he faced were Spencer Drango and Le’Raven Clark. All 3 guys played in @seniorbowl
Eric Gelko: “it’s important to appreciate, as NFL teams do, how he’s been able to find success despite technical concerns. At the NFL level, form and technique doesn’t have to be perfect. Effectiveness, not perfection, is the goal for any blocker.”
Doug Farrar: “As more and more college offenses run spread and spread-style systems, the need to adapt to the talents of these players, and to understand the training time required to help their adaptations to the NFL, is of paramount importance. One must look beyond the biases and to the tape, and the tape says that Le’Raven Clark has the potential to succeed in the pros.”
“Andy Reid would love him. That’s the kind of guy I could see him drafting high with that size and those feet. He could be a Pro Bowler or a scab.” — NFC offensive line coach
Eric Edholm: “Clark rebounded from a bad bowl game to have a good week at the Senior Bowl (he seemed to be the one guy who could block Eastern Kentucky’s Noah Spence in practices) and a solid pro day workout despite a sore hamstring.
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Even with some good tackles in this draft class, there’s a serious dropoff after a certain point. Some teams toward the back end of Round 1 and near the top of Round 2 will see Clark still on the board and wonder if he ever would make it back to them a round later. You don’t find too many athletes this size who move the way Clark does. He appears coachable and wanting to learn.
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Most teams will view Clark as a left tackle, but he also could project to guard, where he’d be able to neutralize many defenders in short space and perhaps be more effective in the run game. He could be a Day 1 starter but also could stand to be a utility lineman in Year 1 while fully being immersed in an NFL weight program, as he still has some sculpting to do with room to get even stronger.”
Good roundup eric
Everything you said had previously been made clear. I get it, he has a tons of potential. Despite all of that, he still seems to be a project player with a really high upside. Might my point is that we already have a high upside left tackle in Giliam. And Giliam has specific traits that the Seahawks look for in their players. My question is does Clark have those same types of traits? What makes him seahawky other than being a great athlete?What are his immeasurables?
Btw- I have absolutely no issue with taking Clark third round and beyond. My issue is taking a project type player with the first pick
I’m not in it for Clark or anything. There are other OTs I hope SEA have a chance to take first. But if they go for him I’ll understand why.
Clark has the same physical traits that SEA like in Gilliam, even more. He’s a little bit bigger and longer than GG, stronger as well, with quicker feet. He will get stronger in an NFL training program. His ceiling is higher for sure.
People knock him for his poor film, but it’s not all bad (though I admit when it is, it’s frustrating to watch). Any perceived limitations from his college career are, IMO, more due to scheme and coaching limitations than anything inherently deficient in him. After all, despite working out of a pass-happy spread offense, he helped DeAndre Washington rush for 1,492 yards and 14 touchdowns in a power-5 conference, averaging 114.7 ypg and 6.4 ypc.
He has the tools to end up being the b
…best OT of this class outside of Tunsil.
Bold words, but I agree: Clark will be one of the best tackles from this draft. I wouldn’t be surprised if they took him over Ifedi.
Schneider on The Clayton Show on Saturday:
http://mynorthwest.com/292/2941664/John-Schneider-Seahawks-arent-done-along-their-offensive-line
He uses the word ‘Tinkering’ to describe what’s left to do with the O-Line. As far as the Draft, he talks about ‘shelves of talent’ and that this year there are few ‘dropoffs’ throughout.
It doesn’t really sound like he’s saying they are looking for the best. Only the best value, at whatever spot it is that they’re expecting to pick one.
There was a mention of players being in 3 tiers in the first two rounds roughly. I think we are talking about pro bowl or difference making players from day one. I tend to agree. Rob mentioned 14 day 1 picks and 40 days 2 picks roughly…. and that would suggest two tiers in first two rounds.
Seattle has always wanted good value for the pick. For the most part, it has worked from rounds 3-7 and UDRFA, just need to work on the picks in round 1 or 2…. this year will be key.
Hmm, 54 players.
Awesome mock and write-up Rob.
One guy I just started looking at is Jordan Jenkins out of Georgia.
Do you think he belongs in the same conversation as Kyler Fackrell? Could he even be a RD 3 guy that lets us get someone like a Haeg or McGovern in RD 2 to continue to add competition for the OL?
Great insights from all of you. Due to the way the Hawks set their draft board up against current guys on the roster, it is tough to project since we don’t know how high the Front Office opinion is on certain players.
Please say more about Sowell and his background! How exciting is that if our new LT is already on the roster.
You mean Gary Gilliam? Yes he’s been on the roster for a couple of years now. If Sowell beats out GG I will eat crow and periscope it
who is going to back russell up in 2016? We haven’t talked much about drafting a backup qb, but I would take one as early as the fifth.
Probably T Jack again, after the annual super quiet free agent tour.
Very possible.
Driskell would make a nice project. Great athlete with good size and a strong arm. He bounced around college so he didn’t have much production, but he was pretty good for La Tech last year. Minor accuracy issues, but if they are correctable he might have some big upside. Probably will go between rounds 4-5.
T-Jack
I’d like to see them re-sign T-Jack and then take a late round flyer on Keenan Reynolds or Trevone Boykin as a developmental guy.
T-Jack
Surprised Charles Tapper is missing from this mock. Certainly he’s gone by the end of the 2nd round. I prefer him to Fackrell. Tapper actually ran a faster 40 and had a better vertical jump than Fackrell, all while carrying an extra 25 lbs on his frame.
Fackrell has better tape and is a more complete player, they play different positions anyways.
I’d rather have Tapper as well. Would prefer the inside out rusher to a LB.
Charles Tapper is a defensive end, and Kyler Fackrell is absolutely only being considered because he could be one in our system, so I’m not sure what your point is.
I think Charles Tapper has some of the better tape out there. Dominated in the games I saw vs better competition. He flashed speed, bull rush and a spin move. He can slide inside on passing downs too, a trait which the Seahawks have been rumored to covet.
Does Tapper really have a good spin? I love a good spin move. Why doesn’t Avril use a spin move?
Typically pass rushers will resort to a spin move when their 1st or 2nd pass rush move is neutralized.
The OT has to take a hard step to the outisde and a pass rusher has to firmly plant that inside foot.
Avril gets such a good jump outta his stance and is so far upfield anyways that 9×10 he has the OT off his base anyways.
It worked for Dwight Freeney so well because he was undersized and was already naturally underneath a tackle’s pads.
Most pass rushers develop a couple moves in HS, and then add more as time goes on in college. Again, typically by the time he’s in the NFL it’s around 4-5 moves. So if the spin is the last move he’s added or learned, it’s the last one in his repretoire, and will hardly have to use it.
Hope that helps ya.
I see your point about the jump Avril gets on the upfield rush. However, I’ve noticed that Avril often takes himself right out of the play when he rushes upfield with reckless abandon. I figure a good spin, paired with that strong upfield rush, would be effective.
He doesn’t play like he has that type of athleticism.
This is true. I think Tapper has immense potential, but in his own path to the draft series he put together he admitted he only joined football as a junior so he didnt have to get a job and tried to get cut.
Not something rhe seahawks are gonna love.
Still admire his athleticism and zesty pass rushing style. Reminds me of a real soft Michael Bennett.
Fackrell at the end of the second would be a steal. The perfect replacement for Irvin, in my opinion.
Are you at all concerned over Fackrell’s age (25 in November)?
Also do you see him as enough of an upgrade over Marsh to warrant the early pick? I have my doubts, mainly due to the lower level of competition that he faced on a regular basis.
Bobby Wagner went to Utah state and turned out fine. It just means he wasn’t recruited highly out of high school
The same age of Bruce Irvin when he was drafted in the first round?
It didn’t hurt that Irvin was 24, since we had him in his prime and he wasn’t retained. It would only be an issue if they’re here for a second contract and start to decline. As far as drafting older players, there’s no reason to worry about it in my opinion. After the rookie deal is up, if you don’t want to re-sign a 28/29 year old to a long term contract, you don’t have to.
Looks like Karlos dansby is signing with Cincinnati
Does Arizona O-lineman Lene Maiava have almost 39″ inch arms or is that a misprint?
Also, I have to wonder if Seattle O-line coaches and Trent Kirchner walked away disappointed from NC’s pro day if they where there for Landon Turner? Or is there another OL they were checking out?
I saw that too. If it wasn’t a typo that is insane.
His Shrine Game weigh in measurements were:
6’4″ 305lbs, 33 5/8″ arms, 10 1/2″ hands, 80 5/8″ wingspan.
Wingspan is a different measurement than arm length, I believe. Either that, or we’ve just found Bigfoot LOL!
Looking at that Fackrell tape, he looks really good rushing off the edge and has explosion with a few different moves, however he did not look good setting the edge on a few plays, and overall he looked stiff hipped and not too comfortable in coverage. He looks like a piece that could be good at the next level for getting some sacks off the edge but not sure how he would perform strictly as a linebacker in regards to coverage duties.
My impression of Fackrell is he is good in some areas, but very deficient in others, which will be targeted and exploited by NFL teams. He also seems too similar to KJ Wrights strengths and weaknesses. I think we want to be more athletic at WILL and expect KJ to move back to SAM on base downs. I am hoping Pinkins can hold up in run defense, which would allow him to provide a nice upgrade in pass coverage, particularly vs TEs. Pinkins is long, fast and groomed in our system. He has a great opportunity this summer and so does KPL.
“My impression of Fackrell is he is good in some areas, but very deficient in others, which will be targeted and exploited by NFL teams. ”
I agree. His test measurements shouldn’t justify a high pick, the stiffness on tape, and the low sack production. At best, he just seems like a rotational guy who competes but never becomes a star(ter).
There are more fluid prospects that are more worthy of attention. I think it is wrong to see him as a simple Irvin replacement. Irvin is one of the most athletic freaks around, very fluid, and it will not be easy replacing that.
He nearly had about five sacks vs Colorado State. He impacted the game in a huge way. Can’t focus on sack production. PFF had him as one of the most impactful defenders in college football in 2015.
Fackrell tested identically to Obum Gwacham, who they drafted as a Bruce Irvin hedge a year ago.
Hey Rob, would love to hear your opinions on Jack Allen – center from Michigan St. Watching his game tape and he looks tough as nails. Finishes blocks and plays until the whistle. I think he could be had in the 4th or 5th round and bring instant toughness to the online. But I’m not as good scouting as you so I’d love to hear your thoughts.
A real tough guy but he’s small in stature and didn’t test well at the combine in terms of agility. I agree on his range (R4-5) but would be surprised if Seattle drafted him. Evan Boehm is a similar player but with much greater agility.
Boehm is 6’2, 309 which is good center size IMO. About the same size as Ryan Kelly and no one knocks him for his size.
Ryan Kelly is 6-4, 311lbs
Redrafting 2015
http://a.msn.com/02/en-us/BBr2xPJ?ocid=se
I always get a kick out of these as a Seahawks fan. Lockett goes #12 to Cleveland, Rawls #14 to Miami.
Where do you see Jaylon Smith getting drafted, Rob?
Medical re-checks in two weeks will tell us more, but right now I think day three.
the seahawks have a history of not making first round picks, because they don’t want to pay first round money. I am not so sure they won’t trade down.
If that was true, why did they trade for Jimmy Graham ($10M APY) and Percy Harvin ($11M APY)?
Big difference between an unproven rookie and super star proven talent
Yes – It’s a 10-15 million dollar difference.
I think avoiding 1st round money is a lower priority with our FO. The bigger priority is probably seizing the opportunity to leverage the value of their 1st round picks into special players via trades or trading down for more picks. I also believe that when they identify the special player they want with their 1st round pick, they will pull the trigger. We have examples of all 3 scenarios in the last few years.
Minnesota specifically said they made the trade with Seattle at #32 to get the fifth year option for Teddy Bridgewater. The value isn’t so much monetary for the Seahawks, it’s that they’re able to leverage the pick for additional draft currency due to the value of the 5th year option to other teams.
Not only that, but if teams go by the traditional value chart, 1st round picks are overvalued and 2-4th round picks are undervalued, so from a pure efficiency standpoint it makes sense to make those trades.
I posted 2 short comments earlier.
Both appeared and were gone shortly after.
Is is a tech issue or am i being censored?
@PFF_Ben: Top run stop% for DL from back-side alignment (15 class)
B.Kaufusi 14.0%
R.Blair 12.8%
J.Bullard 12.1%
G.Johnson 11.9%
D.Buckner 11.4%
@PFF_Ben: Top run stop% for DL from play-side alignment (15 class)
J.Reed 15.5%
N.L’nce-Stample 14.8%
R.Blair 13.5%
M.Abdesmad 13.2%
V.Fauonuku 12.5%
Good showing for Ronald Blair
That’s very interesting — and important for this DEF.
Pauline:
Head coach Dan Quinn and other members of the Atlanta Falcons coaching staff will be in Stanford today working out Austin Hooper and Blake Martinez. Yesterday, they were in Pullman working out Washington State offensive lineman Joseph Dahl, receiver Dominique Williams and underrated defensive lineman Destiny Vaeao, a player people should become acquainted with.
@Rand_Getlin: #Harvard OL Anthony Fabiano is super athletic. Has the highest SPARQ score among his peers, by a fairly wide margin.\
Another one of the Shrine Game DTs that Seattle scouted, SC’s Gerald Dixon, jr., clocked a 4.89 40 at 325 lbs.
@ChrisBurke_SI: Teams confirmed at SC State pro day: JAX, DET, PHI, CLE, IND, CHI, SD, CIN, BAL, BUF, STL, TEN, PIT, SF. Might be 1-2 more.
I know Seattle is at SMU’s pro day, but not sure if they’re at SC’s, Miami’s, or Tennessee’s.I
You think they’re looking at Shakiel Randolph? He was the only prospect NFL.com mentioned at all for the SMU pro day. The site also mentioned scouts coming to ask Chad Morris about some Clemson players, too.
I do.
Hmmm. That last part you mention is interesting.
@AaronLemingNFL: #Bears 1 of 16 teams in attendance today at Southern Utah’s pro day today. S miles Killebrew a 4.49 40 time. Cowser at 4.7.
Good time for Killebrew.
@mattbarrows: #49ers to meet with Boise State guard/tackle Rees Odhiambo — a good fit for zone-blocking team — following school’s pro day Thursday.
I was over on walterfootball.com and their mock draft would probably have all us Hawk fans cheering through 5 rounds with some minor tweaks
Round 1 – Jonathan Bullard
Round 2 Germain Idedi
Round 3- Joshua Garnett could be swapped with Conner McGovern since McGoven is very Seahawkish
Round 3- James Bradberry CB from Samford, but Tyler Ervin is still on the board
Round 4- Kenyan Drake pick would change if Ervin was the pick for the comp pick in round 3 there were some solid option still available at guard so one of those guys could be the pick moving McGovern to center.
Round 5 – Tyler Higbee
If the Hawks could leave the first two days with Bullard, Ifedi, McGovern/Garnett and Ervin that would be a huge haul.
If HB Tyler Ervin is off the board or Seattle doesn’t take him, I’d target Clemson RB Zac Brooks.
IDK if you’ve checked him out at all, but tell me his running style doesn’t resemble Rawls, C-Mike, or Lynch.
‘Herky jerkey.’
Runs into his own linemen and seems very indecisive. Rawls greatest strength is his vision/decisiveness.
I see a pretty physical runner, that has good wiggle in his shoulders, really good looking receiver outta the backfield, good inside zone runner, follows his blockers.
Don’t see indecidiveness at all.
He’s a VMAC visitor for a reason.
Taking a look back from last years final mock draft from this site provides a interesting read. There was more of a need for a receiver at the time. Some people actually called Sokoli, Glow, and Rawls. Lockett was projected to the Bengals. A lot of the same names got drafted in the first two rounds, just different results as far as who ended up where. Interesting to see which late round predictions come true this year!
Is there a link?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/305659
Daniel Jeremiah’s latest mock. So I have 1 question. IF Darron Lee drops to the Hawks, would they pass on him regardless of any other need??
I also wondered if the Hawks would take Lee or Leonard Floyd is they were still on the board. I doubt they would be. But you can bet your bottom dollar they would give either one of these players a long look.
I think they would pick him.
Rob I know you like the idea of taking Tyler Ervin with the Hawks first pick in round three. What are the chances that Evan Boehm would still be on the board at 97(Hawks 2nd pick in the third round). If Boehm is still on the board at 97 do you think John Schneider would pull the trigger on Boehm?
Maybe. They’ve never drafted a pure center to play center. He’s tough and agile so wouldn’t rule it out.
Evan Boehm looks like a player that you would want to go to war with. Boehm looks like one TOUGH DUDE.
I like this draft…
If you guys are all really this high on Frackell, #72 from USC must be a beast. The first tape I found of Frackell was the USC game, Frackell had a couple of splash plays but for the most part the LT #72 was doing his job pretty well. Also klyler Frackell was a OLB in 3-4 scheme at Utah state. That would take some adjustment for him and he might not be ready for the lights this year? I like Kaufusi a ton at 56, maybe I’m wrong and I need to watch more of Fackrell but he was getting blocked by tight ends too. Ill watch more tonight but I’m still leaning towards Kaufusi over Fackrell. Put Morgan out there at Sam this year and give him a chance on running downs, he has earned it on special teams the last couple years.
I’m pretty sure that USC tape was from 2013. It’s hard to judge Fackrell based on his sophomore tape.
You the man Rob, that was a good tape for a sophomore then! Haha, thanks for shootin the breeze, love your site and podcasts! I’ll watch some up to date stuff tonight! Haha
New 5 round mock draft on nfl.com. Here’s who they have the Hawks drafting.
1) Apple CB OSU
2) Whitehair G KSU
3) Sheldon Day DT ND
3) Dominique Robertson OT West Georgia
4) Dadi Nicolas DE VT
5) Willie Beavers OT W. Michigan
Would all of you be happy seeing these guys as new Hawks? I know you don’t think they will draft a cb in first, but I wanted to see what all of you think and know about the guys in rounds 3-5. Thanks and go Hawks!
Here is the link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000648219/article/fiveround-mock-50-cowboys-pluck-myles-jack-derrick-henry
I actually would be pretty pleased with this version of a mock for them. CB is quietly a need for the Hawks. I personally don’t love Tharold Simon – he’s a bit TOO tall at 6’3″ but he plays and moves like he’s 7 feet tall. Drafting Apple would move the oft-injured Jeremy Lane back inside to his more familiar slot CB job.
This is a pretty good mock. As I’ve stated in another recent article/thread by Rob, I’m not overly concerned with who specifically they draft, as long as they’re good players for this team, specifically.