Well, we did say it wouldn’t be a Seahawks off-season without some former players returning.
And while the fanbase waits patiently for Bobby Wagner’s inevitable return (I’ve already written my article reacting to that, I’m just waiting to publish it) — it’s actually a more unlikely player who returns first.
Jarran Reed left the Seahawks under a bit of a cloud in 2021. He was only a year removed from signing an extension. They wanted to work on his deal, get something sorted to lower his hit and extend his stay. Reed wasn’t happy and they parted with an air of bitterness lingering. He joined the Chiefs for a year and then spent 2022 in Green Bay.
I like this signing, on a reported two-year deal worth $10m (the reported price, so it’ll inevitably be lower in real money). He’s always been a very solid player. He only turned 30 in December so he’s not old. He had four sacks for the Packers in an active campaign. He hasn’t missed a game since 2019. You can trust him to be stout up front, play the run and deliver some pass rush. He has a warriors mentality.
He’ll be a lot cheaper than some of the alternative defensive linemen available and you know what you’re going to get from him. He’ll do a job.
Reed also plays with an attitude and an intensity which is always good to welcome back into the mix. He’s not a shrinking violet.
I think he’s the kind of piece Seattle needs to go with Dre’Mont Jones as they fix this defensive front. Now they have Reed, Jones and Al Woods as a front three — with the potential to draft someone to add to that. Maybe they’ll also find some money to bring another veteran in?
The only reason I didn’t consider Reed in my free agency piece was because I thought bridges had been burned. Evidently not — and kudos to all for coming together because this is a smart fit for both parties.
Either way — this is the kind of start Seattle needed to free agency. It’s also indicative of a team who I continue to think are likely to do one of two things at #5 — draft Will Anderson or one of the top-four quarterbacks. They’re focusing their intention on big-bodied defenders in free agency, which to me is telling.
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I’m on board. This is fun seeing the Seahawks take action early in free agency!
Add a Mazi Smith and Keion White or Ade Ade to that Veteran trio and you have a solid group.
If we draft those three, I’ll do the worm the length of Broadway
Looking like a good balance of veteran talent but a good age with Jones to add some rookies.
See a need? Move to fill a need.
This is what we’ve always asked for from this front office.
Never expected them to move heaven and earth and commit $100m to the DL or something crazy. But at least they’re acknowledging 2022 didn’t work on the DL. That’s big.
I think Reed and Jones will be snap-eaters. Reed has always been in the high 60’s/mid 70’s in percentage of snaps and Jones played 81% last year. Nobody on the Seahawks DL was even close.
That may allow them to work in a Myles Adams or even a Jarod Hewitt around Draft Pick and Al Woods.
Biggest benefit?
It might quell the ‘Seahawks are 100% drafting Jalen Carter’ hooey
We can hope…so tired of this constant Carter talk.
Signed 2 DL, resigned Geno to deal with a lot of easy outs. I’d say the stars are aligning toward us taking a QB at #5..
This also reduces the possibility the Seahawks bring back Shelby Harris at a much lesser salary.
Though I wouldn’t mind the depth if it works out.
“it’S A sMOkeSrEen. CArtEr coFiRMEd.” – Seahawks Twitter
I also wonder if the Seahawks can now take some risks on DTs in the draft. You don’t need someone like Kancey, White, or Ade Ade to start right away. They can be eased into the position or just be pass rushers first.
Do you think they’re counting on Lewis as the center if they don’t get anyone?
I think whatever happens it’s clear they’re drafting Wypler or JMS
They might add a dirt cheap veteran just for depth
I didn’t realize that Joey Hunt is still on the roster.
I wonder if Oluwatimi might be on there radar as well. Tested well at the combine and has good size. Maybe a fall back from the other two.
Read was one of the players picked when they said they wanted to be the bullies again. So far as I know, he always brought that. The goal is to get savage upfront. He has that.
Yeah, just ask his girlfriend…
Oh Tom, ouch….oh wait, should I not have used that word?
Seems like a fine deal, Reed is a solid player. Would’ve rather had Campbell but Reed isn’t bad
Go and get Calais too…
This!
100%
I would not complain, d line would be greatly improved from last year
Yes! They need DL depth.
Another smart move from Seattle, moved into get a good DT on a cheap deal with a solid, reliable guy who will play for u 100% every single game he plays, no wonder whats next to sure up this defence line, still need another NT i think.
The Reed and Jones signings also continue a theme for Seattle: they do not like playing young DTs. It’s a position group where they value experience over youth. Good get, PCJS!
DTs is a position that is really hard to get production from a rookie. I’m not surprised.
A ton of rookies a like but all this just draft three rookies, job done talk has been as Rob would say “a nonsense.” That would be a total mess for a while. Like actual years most likely.
It’s a position that often needs old man strength. Half a decade in an NFL strength program helps get them there. Especially the case for 0 tech.
So just running through some theoretical situations. If we traded 1.20 for 2.34 & 2.68 (so we’d give up 850 to get 810 in draft value) and get Bobby/David in FA (and nothing else) and the draft looks like this (all players available within a handful of picks within these spots in the mock offseason’s draft)
1.5: AR15/Levis
2.34: JMS
2.37: Trenton Simpson
2.52: Keeanu Benton
2.68: Siaki Ika
3.83: Tyjae Spears
4.120: Jammie Robinson
5.148: Jonathan Mingo, WR
THEN our roster would look the exact same as 2022 with the following changes and AR15/Levis sitting in the wings:
RB2: Penny to Tyjae Spears
WR3: Goodwin to Mingo
Center: Blythe to JMS
Guard: Jackson to Haynes
NT: Same + Siaki Ika to develop
DE: Shelby + Poona/Quinton to Jones+Benton
OLB: Same
ILB: Brooks+Barton to Bobby/David+Simpson (and Brooks when he returns)
S: Same + Jammie Robinson waiting in the wings
To me those would all look like upgrades except for RB2 (unless you factor in injuries) and maybe guard is a lateral move.
Not crazy about the return in that trade
Its going to be tricky for the second linebacker. Its going to have to be a guy who will probably start the first 4 games or so then be on the bench when Brooks comes back. That second LB will most likely need to be a draft pick.
You’re giving up the chance at a blue chip weapon like Bijan or Mayer. I’d rather not leave the first round in order to pick up an extra late 2nd.
I doubt either of those make it to 20, but if they are you just change plans and take em
I don’t love it… but I trust the opinions in this room.
Feels like we need one more… Khalen Saunders?
As a player, good add. As a character guy, not so much. Let’s see how he does this year on the roster.
Sign Drue Tranquill and I’ll light the fireworks.
+1
So for the first time in years when they say they’re going to fix the DL… they’re actually doing it.
Starting with last years draft, they’ve been the opposite of the worthlessness they created around a half-decade or so prior. FINALLY!!!
Do I dare think there’s hope?
All of a sudden, DT is becoming a strength rather than a perpetual weakness. Not finished, but a gigantically great start. Reed is like a Chuck Darby, Brandon Mebane resigning… just a dude who is going to do a job and do it well. Plug an important role. Nothing more, but that’s okay.
Personally, I’m excited to get Wagz back. I don’t think the same guy, we all know he’s not, but he’ll plug a hole with Brooks out a bunch of next season. And having some help in front of him makes a tremendous difference.
For once, I don’t want to puke at the start of FA.
One thing Bobby brings is stability and leadership to the D. Diggs never really did that. I hope we bring Bobby back on a fair deal but not for some ungodly amount.
I disagree, I do not want Bobby back, he was making business decisions for his last 2-3 years with us. He lost his fire and grit.
He only turned it on last year vs the Hawks. It will be a waste of money, and loss of time on the field for a kid to learn.
I would rather grab a LB mid to late in the draft, then get a few to sign on as UDFA, then let the best man win (an only collect $800k for 4 years) and you live with that for the year. Plan B would be grab a vet once rosters get cut down after pre-season.
Anyone but Bobby – move forward not back Pete.
hey rob, with penny departing for philly, would you be surprised to see seattle go after bijan in round 1 (either trading down from five or up from 20)? i love your take on will mcdonald. given the these FA moves on the defensive front, i wouldn’t feel terrible coming out of the first round with will mcdonald and bijan robinson and possibly another pick. knowing how central a strong running game to pete’s philosophy, it’s not hard for me to imagine . . . yeah, he’s a running back, but clearly will probably be the best player on the board whenever he goes . . .
I don’t think Bijan lasts to #20. If he does, he should be considered best on talent. However, it’s a deep running back class so if/when he’s off the board, they can easily find someone later on.
oh, i agree he won’t last until 20, that’s why i suggested they might trade down from 5 or up from 20 . . . he just looks like such a “sure thing,” and we’ve already reached with a first round RB in the recent pass (the very guy we need to replace) . . . i wonder if will mcdonald will last until 20, i’m leaning toward not . . .
If we’re talking a luxury pick at 20 I’d rather dream about Mayer. He’s a good enough blocker that he’ll help in the passing game, he serves as the team’s 3rd passing target, and the team doesn’t have anyone currently signed after this season.
Colts traded Gilmore and released Matt Ryan to create 30 mil in cap space.
After the Panthers move to 1 could they be considering a move on Lemar instead?
I would say no chance
That’s not Ballard’s way of doing things
More likely creating room for someone like Orlando Brown Jr I’d say
Makes sense.
They just spent a chunk on another pass rusher
Tony P teasing out some Seahawks news for tomorrow…
https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/1635787293217701889
Wagner?
Looks more like he’s going to give an update on who the Hawks are keeping their eyes on, just like he did with Steelers.
It would be nice to hear where their spending their scouts time. I did enjoy hearing Schneider talk about how he isn’t hitting the road as much as he did in years past. He’s trusting his scouts.
I’m 95% sure it’s Wagner.
Ok…never mind.
Tony doesn’t break news like that
More likely a piece of draft info he’s saving for tomorrow
I suspect it might be something around whoever they’ve met pre Georgia pro day, or someone they’re showing interest in per TP’s sources
We must have been typing same time. Iol, evidently I’m much slower
That would be very underwhelming breaking news
We have the Georgia Pro Day tomorrow televised on espn2. Maybe it will be about Seahawks being in attendance
He will have a name to connect us with
They definitely have a few possibilities. Will be interesting
Hopefully not Bennett. Guy had a great year last year but not sure it will translate to the pros.
Not sure who it would be. However, I’ve heard they’ve previously met with Ringo (combine) Hope that isn’t the name.
Interested in where folks think reed and jones play in our scheme. Reed was a 4/3 nose in our old scheme. Is he looking at being an end in our base 3/4?
I think he fits really well as a 3-4 DE
Good to hear!
Reed started at 1-T in the old 4-3 defense but then started playing 3T the last few years before his exit from the team. So he has enough stout and length to be a 3-4 DE.
He played base DE in Green Bay last year in their 3-4 scheme and played well. The Packer fans really wanted him back.
While I agree with much of the analysis above, I do not see a mention here that the Seahawks emphasis on DT could be influenced by the possibility that DE Will Anderson drops to them at #5.
I’m not sure they’re signing DT’s because of that
They have OLB’s on the roster
And they could easily go and draft Will McDonald if Anderson isn’t available. Even then, it’s a deep EDGE class.
I did mention what I’ve been thinking for a while — that it’s basically one of the QB’s or Anderson at #5
Not convinced Anderson and MacDonald are fungible. Anderson a much better run defender, right?? MacDonald are more dynamic rusher….
Thanks Rob. I am no expert so I just try to fill in around the edges after reading all the comments.
What’s the holdup with Harris?
Trying to swing a trade for a LB?
It’s official
https://mobile.twitter.com/seahawksPR/status/1635706483102081024?cxt=HHwWgIDToamYmbMtAAAA
Free Agency is setting up nicely for the Hawks to go
#5 Richardson / Levis
#20 Will McDonald
#38 Mazi Smith
#53 Wypler / JMS
No way they don’t draft a WR in first 2 rounds. Their WR position is paper thin.
Maybe, Maybe not. D and the trenches are the priority
This is exactly how I want it to go. The rest of the draft would be gravy.
Pick Two: Keion White, Will McDonald, Mazi Smith
I would rank them.
McDonald
Smith
White
I want Keion White and Keanu Benton based on what I saw at Senior Bowl practice.
I still haven’t seen enough of Mazi Smith to be honest.
+1
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/14/colts-agree-to-deal-with-samson-ebukam/
Colts nab Ebukam. Got to think that Buckner is very available via trade.
I’m not sure why that impacts things
Different positions
Buckner still one of the best DL in the league
Subject to Georgia’s pro say tomorrow and his agility testing, I think Nolan Smith is strongly in play at 1.20 alongside Will McD4.
Given the latest D line signings, I believe they will look harder at Will A, Will M and Nolan S.
IF Smith tests, and tests well in the agility drills, I think he could have Micah Parsons -type upside.
As an OLB, he can both defend the pass and the run well, reminds me a bit of Clemons
I know I’m repeating myself but I don’t think people realise quite how much of a tweener Smith is. He is not the long, bendy, super quick edge that Seattle has coveted
Maybe they really like Kenny McIntosh?
I understand but a) he was super quick and b) maybe it’s changed or needs to change given their new alignment. I think Smith will be highly covested by 3-4 teams. I believe he is athletic enough to project as a great 3-4 OLB
But he’s quick running in a straight line. You don’t see him win that often off the edge with pure speed. Not like McDonald. And he doesn’t have a counter to play off his first move either.
To me he looks about 225lbs on tape rushing the edge. He looks tiny. I think his playing weight is about 230. I just don’t see what he is at the next level other than a great athlete. He’s not typically what they have looked for
Is he Shaquem Griffin?
Kinda. Not a bad comp actually. But I think Nolan is much more physical.
I dunno. I’m not in love with the guy or anything. But his athleticism is noteworthy. He seems better suited to working plays from inside out rather than outside in. His upside vs risk ratio makes sense in R2. Give him a try inside next to Brooks, or whoever starts the season. And if he doesn’t work out, it’s not like you made a big mistake. And if he works out, you could really have something special in him.
I agree, if they’re looking at Nolan Smith it’s as an athletic projection to ILB (Rush LB) rather than as an Edge.
If he can move to Edge in obvious pass downs in Nickel packages, also useful.
It is a projection though, teams don’t usually make that leap in Round 1. Much more likely at 37 than 20 imo – and that is still a bit high for me given our needs and likely players available at that time
I don’t really get the Parsons comp. Parsons was an ILB who sometimes rushed from the edge. Smith took nearly all his snaps from the LOS outside the tackle. Parsons also weighed 8 lbs more than Smith and there were no questions about his positional fit at the next level. They have similar athletic testing but other than that I don’t really see much in common.
Well if it’s not a smoke screen, it has to be Darnell Washington IMO. Can’t be McIntosh due to 40 time. If it is a smoke screen, this is when we here that the Hawks are hoping for Carter at 5 🙂
Top thirty visits: according to Walter Football
Interesting:
Richardson (only QB)
JMS
Dawand Jones
Ringo
Brents
Skinner
No interior DL’s
No TE’s
No WR’s
Only one who hasn’t been discussed here was Mike Morris
Ringo wasn’t top 30 it was a dinner or whatever before the Georgia pro day
So not sure this list is accurate
Only top 30 visits I’ve seen confirmed so far are Dawand Jones and Jammie Robinson
AZ trades out of #3 to … #5 for the price of #37.
The QBs go 1,2,3,4 nd AZ takes Anderson at 5 and picks up #37. Both the DEN/RW picks goto AZ for #3.
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/are-the-seahawks-thinking-of-trading-up-to-1
Discussed extensively in the comments in this article
IC, pretty solid arguments against AZ enabling SEA in a top-3 scenario regardless of what they get.
When is the last time a rookie (highly drafted too) iDL truly instantly popped and was a huge difference maker as a rookie. None come to mind in the last 10 years other than Aaron Donald. These guys take time to adjust to nfl o linemen. People need to stop believing Jalen Carter will be an instant difference maker, and need to realize all signs points to QB at 5
Deforest Buckner and Leonard Williams were the two that popped to mind as being bigtime right out the gates.
Oh yeah I forgot about Buckner. I gotta disagree about Leonard Williams though, I don’t think he ever lived up to his hype. He might be my comp for Carter
I’m getting ready tired of this crap I’m seeing on Twitter, all 4 QBs go before 5 so Seahawks have a dream scenario of picking Wilson, Anderson or Carter. I’m not entirely sure how A. People can even seriously consider Carter at this point, B. Think Wilson fits in our system at all. C. Devalue the QB and positional value for the top pick. Oh well D-line is our biggest problem and the only way to solve it is selecting a D line at 5. Foolishness, you have the rest of the draft to fill needs with players with just as much upside and better character. The opportunity to draft a future franchise QB is way more important but oh, we can just worry about that next year. 🙄 Sorry for the rant, this is why I dont do Twitter often It just pisses me off. The draft can’t get here fast enough.
Delete Twitter… your welcome
You can thank the Mike Dugar’s and Corbin Smith’s (plus so many others in the Seattle media) for driving their brainwashed thoughts. I stopped reading Dugar after he, once again, gifted us with Carter in his mock draft, again. Do these guys actually pay attention to Pete and John???
Well, we were all young once. We all make mistakes. Etc etc
Hawkblogger is guilty of this, as well.
He is dead set on taking a DL at #5. He refuses to even consider a QB with that pick.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Kind of makes u wonder how these 🤡 s have any credibility anymore? And the lemons in the fanbase just eat up. Gotta love confirmation bias.
*Lemmings not lemons
Not trying to go after Brian, but I redid my flooring in the ground level a few years back and needed something to listen to so started from the beginning. His draft takes were really really bad…he wanted players that I had either never heard of, or had a slight inkling of “oh yeah that was someone that played football.”
They have really gone downhill, almost gotten aggressively set on their takes. Except Jeff. Jeff is a national treasure. Of Canada and America.
Well if Hawkblogger is dead set on taking a DL at #5 he might not be very happy with the pick.
I will be happy with one of the 4QBs or Will Anderson Jr. It would not surprise me if Richardson does go before Levis. There is a solid chance someone will fall in love with Richardson’s athleticism. The Question is: if Will Anderson Jr. is still on the board will Arizona select Anderson or trade the pick? Even though the Raiders signed Jimmy G. They move up and trade with Arizona.
I don’t understand the people who point blank to embrace why a QB is an option at #5
Or continually speak about an ‘ideal’ scenario with all the QB’s being gone
It just sounds forced
It sucks, there is literally no other outlet to enjoy the offseason because the overarching narrative is Geno is the quarterback for next 10 years because he has played so well, and our defense is bad and Carter will fix it. I don’t know how you even watch his tape and see something generational. You mention taking a quarterback at 5 or even trading up and they start chanting “shun! shun!”
Anymore, people have ZERO attention spans. They don’t want to have to do any critical thinking. They want to be told what to think by people framing it like they are selling them a car. We have a quarterback already and everyone says Carter is the best so he has to be. No looking at scheme, no listening to the two men who are making the decisions, no looking at what is the best and smartest for the team. No looking at Rob for what he does.
I love this team and there is literally nowhere else to get honest discussion.
It looks like both C Bradbury and Brendel re-signed with their old teams, the Vikings and 49ers. Wondering if C Coleman Shelton is still available? Haven’t seen that he’s signed with anyone, and he’d make a very good signing and hedge along with LBs Holcomb or Tranquill.
Saw this about Shelton – “Fun fact: Over the past two seasons, whenever an LA Rams running back rushed for 100+ yards in a single game, the offensive center was Coleman Shelton. That includes the final 3 games of the 2022 NFL season.”
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1571602555083300864
But what would all 12 of my followers do without me 🤣🤣🤣
Noticed a few days ago that the NFL just made 2 positive decisions for us regarding the draft. The criteria was met in the Steelers trade for Ahkello Witherspoon a couple years ago so we get an extra 5th rd. pick.
And we didn’t play or keep CB John Reid from the Texans long enough a year or more ago to have to send them a 7th round pick. So now we do have 2 5th rounders and a 7th, when a week ago we didn’t have a 7th and only one 5th rounder. Great news!
So now we have 2 #1s, 2 #2s, 1 #3, 1 #4, 2 #5s, 1 #6 and 1#7. That’s a total of 10 picks. Gives JS some more options to move up either day 2 or early day 3 for a high rated player that fell, or just fill out the roster more to cut players like JA and others after June 1.
One of the interesting things JS has said in regards to character is that some of the guys were in awe of the LOB guys and didn’t compete as well as they would’ve liked with them.
I think off field character (questionable in guys like j reed) vs. football character (great in j reed). Seahawks will live with the off field character, if you are a BAMF on the field.
Not really sure how the first bit lands with the second.
Last year all the players they drafted were high character, mature, strong individuals. You just had to listen to them all speak. Intelligent, driven, focused. That’s the recommitment they’ve made. They’ve highlighted that. They’ve spelt it out to us.
They had great success with that class and they put it down to that recommitment to character. There is no way they are rowing back from it. And they don’t need to. There are four QB’s and one pass rusher at the top of the draft all with A+++ character and maturity. That’s the answer for them. And they’ll build from there — adding more driven, determined, mature, talented individuals.
We can overthink this sometimes.
I’m really looking forward to see how the first round plays out. We are in a win-win situation sitting at #5, even though we have to leave it to lady luck if we are going to get a QB. Anderson is a helluva consolation prize!
My only point is “character” is a broad term and I think JS is more talking about on fuel bad ass competitive character IMO from the interviews he’s given.
This isn’t about Jalen carter I’m anti Jalen carter I think is on field shape/competitiveness is appalling. I’m not sure the Seahawks character claims are what everyone else thinks it is.
Not overthinking at all jarran reed, Frank clark, earl thomas, michael bennett have all had off field issues.
I’d say they’re football character (competitiveness, instincts, determination or all great).
I think Seahawks care about the latter and are okay with dealing with the former
It is overthinking it though. You’re now trying to separate what constitutes ‘character’. All you need to do is look at the 2022 draft class that they say was based all around their re-emphasis on character.
None of those players had issues off the field but ‘good football character’. They were all very mature, intelligent, focused players.
There’s no point trying to decipher beyond that really. And they are specifically talking about how they changed their approach last year. Trying to find answers from drafts 13 years ago or seven years ago is pointless in the context of this because they say the re-emphasis occurred last year. And we saw the types of person they drafted.
Just look at their class last year
Those are the types of player they’re taking
They were all very similar
Travis Homer to the Bears…
Surprised the Seahawks didn’t match that. PC has always had a special place in his heart for Homer.
They dipping into this RB class fo sho
Maybe a double dip
It’s a good class
Indeed. Wouldn’t be surprised if they take two RBs in lieu of a WR especially considering how well the class caught passes at the combine.
I’ve never seen anything like that — one position group outperforming another at the very thing the other is supposed to be good at.
I was particularly impressed with Charbonnet’s hands
Certainly hope so, our runningbacks are always injured.
Mitchell from ECU is a fun player, day 3 pick 3rd down back. Small
Somewhat relieved to be moving on from penny, homer and Barton to newer pastures
Ok, homer time. I want them to get my man Devone Achane as a day 3 pick to be our kick returner. That dude flies!
He received a big bump in my new horizontal board…
Can’t wait to see your updated Big Board. Hopefully an early day 3 pick. Personally, he WAS the offense this past year in some of A&M’s games as we sorted out the QB position and we lost Ainias Smith (who opted to stay at A&M for one more year this coming year due to his lost season to injury).
Really like Deuce Vaughn , he reminds me a lot of Darren Sproles . I think he could be a serious contributor as a kick and punt returner.
He was fun to watch. Totally get the Sproles comp.
I didn’t watch much of A&M this year but every time I did I came away impressed by that guy. Although I think the hawks may already have found / stumbled into their kick returner.
The minimum tender for Ryan Neal surprised me a bit. Maybe they are scrounging every dollar to bring back Bobby tomorrow. That is the only front 7 position without a starter.
just glad that someone with any semblance of a ceiling could take his place.
I like seeing this. Letting JAGs go and try to improve thr roster with better talent.
ANy shot we can get Harris back on a cheaper deal? He would be a solid fit to stay in the rotation.
Yes, depth is needed. They also need to find NT depth behind Al Woods. Mone ended the season on IR and may not be the answer they want anymore.
I would have said yes until Seattle signed Reed. Harris will be too expensive for a rotational non-starting role.
Eagles signed Penny, so that’s another of our 2022 RBs off the board. So far the best news after signing Jones and Reed to bolster our DL is that LB Barton won’t be back for sure since he’s with the Commanders now. Relieved not to be grimacing or cursing him tackling air or his own teammate 30 times next year instead of the opponent.
Rumblings about maybe Mike Purcell NT Denver being released. Solid player and was the dude who screamed at Russ on the sideline
He is 31 and was mostly a backup last year for Denver but he was OK and he wouldn’t cost much more than the veteran minimum. He is someone to keep in mind if he is released and Seattle releases Al Woods.
They need depth at nose so I don’t think it would require Woods to be cut
True. That might be my bias for them adding a young NT in the draft showing through.
Don’t be surprised if takes John Michael Schmitz at 37. This center they want and he won’t be at 52. Their are 3 teams that need a center and is the number 1 in this draft. The reason they is because he can step and start right away. He took over in his 1st year from a guy that had place the position. He played 4 years and everyone knew he was the leader of the offensive line. So don’t be surprised I just had him drafted at 35 by the colts.
Center’s don’t typically get taken that early
And he isn’t a Tyler Linderbaum type
Tony P teasing = Aaron Rogers to Seahawks?
Green Bay gets Geno, Adams, Diggs and Fant.
No chance and I don’t want him here anyways.
Doubt it. But, I’m worried.
The Packers also wanted Barton and Homer so the deal fell through after they were signed elsewhere
One thing is apparent during the FA period. We are picking/talking to guys who has experience in the 3-4 scheme. I feel that’s why we haven’t signed Bobby due to fit. I feel we made a play for Hargrave (who played in PIT 3-4 before PHI 4-3) but was priced out and pivoted to Dre’Mont Jones (Den 3-4), who IMO is a better fit for this scheme. We made a play for Zach Allen (Vance Joseph 3-4), but pivoted to Jarran Reed (GB 3-4). QJeff & Poona fit 4-3 alignment. This is why I don’t see us going after Frank Clark or even Bobby, unless for sentimental or extreme deficit of LB depth. I’m sure we prob made a play for Larry Ogunjobi, but was prob priced out.
Rob, I think we should look at players who have experience in 3-4 and/or have the Seahawky traits to play in 3-4. I feel this is new territory for JS’s scouting team when evaluating players and makes it fun for him again.
Remaining top FAs who played in 3-4
Lavonte David – LB
SMB – CB
Marcus Peters – CB
Taylor Rapp – S
AShawn Robinson – DL
Trey Flowers – Edge
Drue Tranquill – LB
And more…
You’re telling me we could have Rapp in a seahawks jersey but instead have Adams? Oh man.
Don’t want Aaron Rodgers. Would rather have Geno Smith than A-Rod.
Really? The Rodgers hate is on another level. To be clear I don’t want the team spending any picks to trade for him or committing the kind of money he’ll want, but I believe he’s a better qb than geno and even at this late stage in his career could win more games this season than geno. Obviously he’s not coming here anyway but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he has a Brady in Tampa 2021 kind of season.
509. Geno Smith is all in on team first. BTW: What do you propose to give for Aaron Rodgers? Rodgers? Rodgers is owed 60 million this year. What would you do with Geno Smith? The Packers want to go with Jordan love.
Why is it that players that leave the Seahawk organization and go for greener pastures want to come back? I think that speaks loud and clear about the Seahawk organization.
Could be that but also wonder if its because we are the only team that offers them anything and if it wasn’t for Pete liking “his guys” they’d be out of the league (i.e. Luke Willson)
Shibu: If Seattle was the only organization interested in Jarran Reed. Then why did Seattle want to sign Reed on the second day of free agency. It’s highly unlikely that Seattle was the only team negotiating with Reed.
Travis Homer going to the Bears on a 2 year deal. Good thing this is a deep draft for RB talent.
One could argue that Travis Homer getting signed away is a sign that it is not.
BUT, the Bears STILL have the most money to spend after taking two of the best linebackers and a defensive end early in free agency. Homer is a good special teamer, so, they can afford that.
I could totally see the Bears taking Bijan Robinson at #9.
They are the team to watch.
Not impressed, more mediocrity … again.
Not every player can be a superstar.
And I don’t quite put Reed in the JAG category.
What were you expecting?
Browns to send over Myles Garrett for an exchange of fourth rounder’s?
This is a perfectly acceptable free agent signing
It will be interesting to see workout numbers for Israel Abinakana, the Pitt RB. Nice size, and some nice tape. Looks fast.
Does the Panthers signing Andy Dalton indicate they are also thinking Anthony Richardson to sit behind for one year or is it a experience QB behind a ready to go QB
The signing makes it more likely, sure.
But I think they needed a veteran anyway. And it’ll be a hard sell for that franchise to trot out Andy Dalton next season after trading up to #1
Well if it does mean Richardson is going #1 overall, our Robbie is buying a (virtual) round for the community here cuz he’ll be 15K richer. And the round may be virtual, but the cash will be very real.
I want him for Seattle, but it would be a nice consolation prize if Robbie made a bunch of dough off the pick.
I always liked Reed as a player & was disappointed when he left. Glad to see him back again. I agree with others that the ‘hawks will be dipping into this year’s RB pool & probably double-dipping. Personally, I really like Zach Charbonnet’s play & would be very happy to see him in a ‘hawks Jersey. He would be a great JL Williams to Walker’s Curt Warner!
From my pov, signing 2 DL’s gives a chance to not be so forced to draft one early. Alot of fans google “seattle team needs” and just draft from that, not actual best player available. As mentioned in earlier comments on this thread, Hawkblogger is giving me actual heartpain with some of his takes. Refuses the thought of a QB and best scenario would either be a trade down cause more picks = better roster. Also Jalen Carter or Wilson at #5 = Superbowl, then they go 180 and just say “better QBs next year” as if you want to be picking in the top 3 any year.
Also, how about just cutting Jamaal Adams lose and sign Taylor Rapp to a nice deal? Or is that the Washington fan in me just projecting?
Would love to bring back Harris at a cheaper rate if his market isn’t what he expects. If he goes from our best to our worst DL, then we can sleep pretty happy at night, Campbell sounds great as well. Harris/Campbell and Mazi Smith please.
If we manage to grab Richardson/Anderson at 5, and Mazi Smith and Schmitz in the second, who does everyone want at 20?
I don’t know why, but Michael Mayer is just the embodiment of a football player to me and I think he would be a really solid pick if he lasts that far. I could easily see him becoming a safety blanket for our QBs. After him I’d probably say Will McDonald just has those special traits that could make him really good.
I really want Mayer too. Robs been talking about him for ages so I paid a lot of attention to him. The team will need a tight end out of this draft or next anyway.
mcdonald,white or Washington…
Agree. Don’t see Harris as part of the problem last year. But please to have Reed back all the same. But regret the loss of Travis Homer
Day 1 : Jones
Day 2 : Reed
Day 3 : Ashawn Robinson ?
Day 4 : Drue Tranquil ?
Day 5 : Bobby on a cheap 2yr deal?
I’m ready for three signings in three days
Just think if they can add Robinson now it opens everything up in the draft on the defensive side of the ball.
I can’t stop laughing at the thought of people genuinely upset at the thought of Homer not being on the team. RB3 is exactly the kind of position you want to go younger and cheaper. Getting attached to players who produce very little is beyond me.
He amassed 453 rushing yards and 464 receiving yards in four seasons in Seattle. This little bit of production will not be missed.
+1
He is one of the best pass protecting RBs in the league, hence his frequent use on third downs. Also a good contributor on Special Teams. However always an underwhelming rusher..
It’s about the pass blocking not the rushing production
My non Seahawks bold prediction.
Colts trade #4 to Commanders for #15 , a mid round pick and a 1st next year.
Colts then sign Lamar Jackson to an offer sheet using the two Commanders 1st round picks as the compensation.
Irsay’s stick it Baltimore one last time.
This would be 100% an Irsay move not Ballard.
But Irsay has ceded at every stage so far to Ballard
And this isn’t a Ballard move
I think there’s more chance they trade for Samuel L Jackson personally. Ballard knows he can get a good cheap, young QB at four.
Thats a good point. You are probably right they are likely clearing cap space to get an OT or impact WR for the rookie QB. Would still like to see it happen to shake things up.
Not really seeing many landing spots for Lamar to be honest. I certainly would not want to the the owner / team on the hook for a $200 mil fully guaranteed deal who a guy who has not finished each of the last two seasons.
Cole Holcomb to Steelers. Another potential linebacker target for the board…
*off the board
The LB hole grows!
Every game? Does he mean ST or did he actually get some defensive snaps? To lazy to look it up myself…
Special teams. He only got significant defensive snaps in 3 games last year, with a high of 38 in week 18 after the Brooks injury.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MuseTa00/fantasy/2022
Glad they are not. Smart.
Dare I say past Seattle teams would gladly forked over the $2.627m tender for a guy who was mostly ST.
I doubt it because of the two centers that fit us available in the draft, but maybe he could be a trade target?
Nah, they are locked into him as the future at center for when Kelce goes
Expectation is he’ll play guard until then
From Jim Nagy
SOURCE: Georgia DT Jalen Carter will only do position drills at today’s pro-day. No 40 or other testing. Carter weighed in at 323 pounds, up 9 lbs from Combine.
The red flags keep piling up. But yeah the Hawks are definitely taking this guy at #5.